So Why Aren’t You Buying The HD2 Again?

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I have to say that I’m a little puzzled by the comments I see regarding the HTC HD2 and its upgrade possibilities or lack of them. A number of you have expressed complaints over the lack of a Windows Phone 7 upgrade path for the HTC HD2 and I have to really wonder why.  I get it . Windows Phone 7 looks cool, seems to function far better than Windows Phones have up to this point, but it’s all an unknown now.  You can’t sit and say I don’t want to buy a phone because it’s not going to be given something down the road, especially when that something is a complete unknown. In that case, don’t buy another computer, another car or another television because the model will change on you in the future.  Might there be improvements?  Absolutely!  What about Windows Phone 8?  Someone somewhere is in a room working on that project right now so maybe it’s worth waiting another 2 years for that to unveil.  The actual realm of knowledge regarding Windows Phone 7 is slim pickings at this point and, while it’s disappointing to know that the HD2 isn’t going to be upgraded in the future, it’s not a reason to skip the purchase.  The phone is amazing.  I’ve told you so  myself and it’s a phone that has plenty of longevity should you purchase it, Windows Phone 7 or not.

I really don’t understand the disappointment some of you are expressing.  I just don’t.  Windows Phone 7 looks great, but how does it actually function in a real-world test environment?  Will it offer the features you want and a market that has the apps you require?  While the last part may be an inevitable yes, it’s still not reason enough to not buy the phone.  The HD2 is a terrific smartphone.  It’s a lean mean fighting machine and it’s got the goods to play with the big boys.  Not buying the HD2 because it’s won’t follow an upgrade path to something you don’t even know you really want is just plain silly.  Failing to pick this up for that reason alone will only allow you to miss out on a perfectly good great smartphone.  So I hope some of you who are hesitating see the light, get into a store and try it out or just buy it because I told you to do so.

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  • DotNetCoderAZ

    Could not have said it better myself!!! Kudos!

    • MOJO…HD..

      WELL>>>>>>SAID DAVID>>>…!!!!!

      JUST GOT MINES…I was the first one to get the first two from my store….I’m loving the phone…will do me good until the next phone that takes my breath away at first glance comes out…that i really want…$199..can’t pass up on that price for the newest and best phone….got 2 and walked out of there paying just $460…buy one get one free if your a new customer…couldn’t get that though…I will always be a tmobile customer….ONE THING I am mad about, is the fact, GAY ASS sprint is going to get that supersonic/Evo…(copycats)..tmobile should have jumped on that phone too…so they could have had all the 4.3″ screen phone so there would be no punks ass sprint android fans comparing there phones with ours…..JEEZ…8 mega pixel cam is cool, but i left that(memoir..sold mine for $210) for this bad boy….SO MY OLD PHONE PAID FOR MY NEW ONE WHICH IS WAY BETTER!!!!!……

  • Matt

    For Sure David, this phone is fantastic, my wife was a little wary about it, so I made her go to the store and try it out on Monday with me >:) now, I think she is more excited than I am, haha.

  • Vlady Vlad

    Couldnt have said this better myself. Just got mine (i went on a 15 min break and it came back to work late lol). Phone is a monster. Well worth the money

  • carlos

    it’s all about how you perceive the situation, because, like the things you mentioned (tv’s, cars, etc), sometimes holding out for the next best thing is worth it. indeed, there is no certainty about how great WM7 will be, but then again, isn’t that how it usually works with anything that’s about to be released to the comsumer? and if you think even harder about it, it’s what some people did with the HD2; they held off on phones with the hope of a better one approaching. i’m not sure what the point of this post is.

  • http://www.startblue.net startBlue

    It is not soley that the phone can’t upgrade to WP7, plenty of Windows Mobile devices have never been officially upgraded to the next version. It is that Windows Mobile is now dead outside corporate and 3rd world use. It is the fact that Adobe, Mozilla and others have decided to quit developing for the platform.

    In addition there is the reason it runs Windows Mobile beneath that which is Sense. Why live in a two tone world, when if you wanto stick with Microsoft, you will get a complete experience change in just a few months from a newer and better phone.

    People will find many reasons like these, but your reasons against Windows Phone 7 are flawed. There is a ton of information about how it works, in fact people can play with a rough version thru the emulator. And perhaps some of those reasons will encourage some to go with WM6.5. But for others, It is about 6 months away from Windows Phone 7, and even if you didn’t like the HD2 will still be on sale in 6 months.

    • Cheap@$$

      To add to what StartBlue said, I think that there’s a difference between getting a phone/pc/device and not knowing whats going to happen in the future vs. buying the HD2 and knowing that it has no future. But even considering that, I still found myself on the fence since the current WinMo 6 is an “ok” platform. I finally decided not to get the HD2 when Sprint revealed the EVO 4G yesterday. Its an HD2 w/Android/HD recording/8MP camera/1.3 front camera/better battery/etc. So although I don’t know the future of Android, I’m certain it has a better one then that of legacy WinMo6. You don’t see Microsoft coming out with any more enhancements to Vista. They corrected it with Windows 7 and aren’t looking back.

      • PHONE FREAK

        As soon as you get the EVO 4G, a better phone will come out. Never fails.

  • craig

    I really want this phone, but I’m on t-mobile pay as you go do to bad credit. So there’s no way I’m shelling out 450.00 for a phone. Careless about windows 7.

  • jhollin1138

    I completely agree with this article.

    I could care less if the HD2 is going to get a 7 upgrade. Since you are not allowed to to run another UI on 7, I would rather keep HTC Sense. What really does 7 give you (under-the-hood changes aside) that Sense doesn’t already have? Is the 7 experience really so much better than Sense?

  • Francisco C.

    Completely AGREE!

  • rushmore

    I think the no Flash 10.1 issue is bigger than the WM7, but are of course mutually inclusive. Or is it no keyboard concerning buyers… has the tide turned to a revolution against non- KB devices?! Probably not ;)

  • lev

    For me its a matter of apps, dont get me wrong, this is one of tmos best phones, no question, but using android since its inception, its hard to switch

    • tato22

      best way to deal with that is having both me i got the nexus one and the hd2 u cant go wrong there the best of both worlds

  • david

    Agreed!! By the time windows 7 comes out !! Who knows what other hot phones are gonna be out there maybe a 2 ghz or who know what!!! That’s y I’m buying 3 hd2 today!!!! Till I get bored!! Just like what happen with my g1!!!

    • Anthony

      No you aren’t.

  • enveed05

    This very site reported that the HD2 was likely to be included in the BOGO smartphone promotion. I called T-Mobile customer care to verify and was told that it was true. Today, I find out that the policy, if there ever was one, has changed. Quite disappointing. You can get bogo on the smartphones that nobody really wants, and can’t get it on the smartphone that people do actually want. Shame T-Mobile keeps getting trumped on all the great Android phones, and gives us a pretty good WM phone with limited upgrade path and lack of app support.

  • Elias

    Microsoft & HTC really screwed this phone’s sales numbers up by announcing Phone 7. I don’t agree with your comparison David because the difference from Windows Mobile 6.5 to Phone 7 appears to be huge; like the difference from DOS to Windows 95. It’s not an incremental improvement. Why would the tech savvy people that this phone appeals to most buy what is admittedly a dying OS?

    • DotNetCoderAZ

      “what is admittedly a dying OS”

      The keyword here being admittedly and it’s completely wrong. As I and numerous others in the mobile industry have pointed out, WinMo 6.5.x is hardly dying. Microsoft has committed to supporting it and will even be re-branding it as “Windows Phone Starter Edition” (or something along those lines. The official title has yet to be announced).

      Show me where this is a dying O/S when the sales in the enterprise market are as strong as they ever have been? WinMo 6.5.x is still beating out RIM, Android and Apple in the enterprise sector and will continue to do so until one of those other platforms figures out a true Exchange sync solution (among other things).

  • JG01

    It is not of matter of WOW cool features! It more in line with, I have spent a lot of money on this phone, so I want it to last me for about 3 years. When Windows 7 comes out, a lot of developers will be focused on creating apps for Windows 7 and will NOT write for Windows 6.5, so I will be stuck with the apps that are currently on sale ( an there is not that many – like the iphone or android). So the hardware is great, but what can I do with it now and in the future? This phone seems to have life expectancy of about 1 year ($449 for a year). If I bought a TV of a laptop for that money, I could have it for years before needing to upgrade hardware to take advantage of new software features. So, for me, that’s why I’m not buying it. As I said before, stick android on it and the problem is solved.

  • BigBopper

    Because it is a dead platform, far more so than Palm which conceivably could get bought. Buying this phone guarantees a painful migration down the road.

  • tippymn

    I for one am getting the HD2. Granted Windows 7 sounds great, but we all know that MS is not exactly good on their release dates, if I’m not mistaken I believe they have talked a new Windows Mobile interface for what 2 years…so forgive me if I am not a true believer of it being released by the holidays. For now I will get me the new HD2, and if and when a new Windows 7 comes out then I will get it then, heck it wouldn’t be the first time I bought a new phone before the old was even a year old. So I will be enjoying the HD2 while I wait on MS.

  • TBOYZ

    The phone it self is great, no doubt about it. The problem is what is the purpose of having a great smartphone if most developer has decided to cease the development of the software for it???? The phone is only as good as the softwware on ut. It’s like buying core i7 to watch youtube and playing solitaire. It doesn’t make sense!!!

  • SKA

    Its Windows Mobile thats why Im not getting one. I have a Dash 3G and 2 Touch Pro2s on my line and I had the first Dash and PDA. The only way I would get this phone is if it is $50 or below. I checked one out yesterday and I am sorry to say I will not get one. Sorry guys I know this will piss off a lot of people. Sorry :(

  • TBOYZ

    The phone it self is great, no doubt about it. The problem is what is the purpose of having a great smartphone if most developer has decided to cease the development of the software for it???? The phone is only as good as the softwware on ut. It’s like buying core i7 to watch youtube and playing solitaire. It doesn’t make sense!!!

  • Green Robot

    I’m not buying it because of windows in general – it has nothing to do with whether it is upgreadable to 7 or not. I never used windows mobile. I used with S60 years ago and stuck with that for years until it fell behind. I then switched to Android and I’ve been rather happy with it. I’m not buying HD2 because I don’t want to learn yet another OS with all its quirks and pluses and minuses – Android works for my needs very well so why put myself through that. Especially since there are just as good (or better) Android devices coming later this year. I want to have the ability to get upgrade pricing on those and not windows mobile.
    Also, upgreadability to wp7 is a concern since it will quickly become the new standard for phones with MS OS. App development is another big question – Mozilla has already announced that they are halting development of firefox for winmo 6.5.x and it might be a sign of things to come. HD2 is getting released by TMO too late to risk using up my upgrade pricing on and have no upgrade available in case a high end Android does come to TMO (however vague that chance is at this point).

  • Green Robot

    I’m not buying it because of windows in general – it has nothing to do with whether it is upgreadable to 7 or not. I never used windows mobile. I used with S60 years ago and stuck with that for years until it fell behind. I then switched to Android and I’ve been rather happy with it. I’m not buying HD2 because I don’t want to learn yet another OS with all its quirks and pluses and minuses – Android works for my needs very well so why put myself through that. Especially since there are just as good (or better) Android devices coming later this year. I want to have the ability to get upgrade pricing on those and not windows mobile.
    Also, upgreadability to wp7 is a concern since it will quickly become the new standard for phones with MS OS. App development is another big question – Mozilla has already announced that they are halting development of firefox for winmo 6.5.x and it might be a sign of things to come. HD2 is getting released by TMO too late to risk using up my upgrade pricing on and have no upgrade available in case a high end Android does come to TMO (however vague that chance is at this point).

  • MikeyRoksChicago

    I have mine! First one in line at Tmo. I flip flop between this and my Nexus.

  • czar

    I absolutely hate windows mobile, I tried it once, I have nothing but macs in my house so getting it to sync was nightmare, plus other problems I had. Windows mobile = fail to me. the Apps for windows mobile suck to. If Android was on this I’d be all over it. Once again Tmo fails to me. Verizon got the droid, we got the cliq. Sprint has the EVO 4G, we get the HD2. SMH

  • czar

    I absolutely hate windows mobile, I tried it once, I have nothing but macs in my house so getting it to sync was nightmare, plus other problems I had. Windows mobile = fail to me. the Apps for windows mobile suck to. If Android was on this I’d be all over it. Once again Tmo fails to me. Verizon got the droid, we got the cliq. Sprint has the EVO 4G, we get the HD2. SMH

  • Zack

    Although I am highly disappointed that it isn’t going to be upgradable to Windows 7 I am here at t-mobile right now waiting till 10 to get this phone. I a fully connected into the Microsoft world being a Zune user and Xbox player I will be getting a wp7s phone day one also bit the hd2 will hd me over to nov.

  • ed

    well personally i’ve already been down this road before (htc dash). once the new OS comes out developers will concentrate on it so you wont see as many new apps. nevermind the fact that microsoft will forget about this platform as well so your stuck with a phone that runs a platform that not many people are using anymore with no upgrade path in sight. besides in a couple of months the device will be half price on tmobile anyway.

  • ag

    For me this has nothing to do with the phone itself but of the operating system. Windows 6.5 is a dying platform. Its hard to invest money and locking myself into another contract knowing that they’re won’t be that much development for the operating system going forward. It really seems like a bad impulse buy.

  • LatinSilEighty

    I just ordered mine online and it should be here in no more than a week, I’m excited not because of WM6.5 but because I’m sure someone will eventually hack Android to it and even more now that the Evo 4G has been announced I’m sure when someone gets a leak that may end up hacked to this,The hardware is what i got it for, don’t get me wrong Ive always been one of the few people that didn’t mind WinMo but I’m just looking for an excuse to sell my Nexus One before it depreciates. HD2+Android 2.1=WIN!!!

    Ive been saying that the HD2 should have been Android from the beginning and look what GAY ass sprint goes and does, DAMN YOU HTC!!! take a bad ass phone and put it on the USA’s worst(IMHO)carrier BOOOOOO!!

    I played with it at the store and don’t get me wrong its no Android but the Hardware surpasses the Nexus IMO and that pared with Android is a win win situation.

  • slypanda

    I am not buying one today because T-Mobile is “enhancing” the upgrade system today and chat or live phone service can’t correctly view my account and sell me an HD2. I qualify for early upgrade 20 months and $140 finacing on Even More flexpay. Fix it soon TMO!!! Let me give you money!!!

  • slypanda

    I am not buying one today because T-Mobile is “enhancing” the upgrade system today and chat or live phone service can’t correctly view my account and sell me an HD2. I qualify for early upgrade 20 months and $140 finacing on Even More flexpay. Fix it soon TMO!!! Let me give you money!!!

  • Green Robot

    Sorry for the double post above. This site is going up and down like a see-saw and it posted my thing twice as a result.
    By the way, why do you want people to buy into HD2 so much? TMO needs to learn that it has customers that want the latest and greatest devices and the only way we the customers can let them know that is by not buying devices that are outdated. They (TMO execs and decision makers) probably believe that HD2 is the cutting edge but that simply is not longer true, not since wp7 announcment and not since HTC Evo announcment – it was true 6 months ago but TMO has missed the boat yet again – they need to be told that.

  • artiepants

    Android 2.X/3.0. iPhone OS 4.0. WPS7.

    while it’s certainly “the new hotness”this phone is essentially obsolete at launch by releasing with WinMo 6.5 (which has been utterly trashed in reviews by the gadget media ~ I’m unfamiliar with the Sense UI, so i don’t know how much it covers up, but it’s still going to have those WM6.5 underpinings) . I’d imagine the lack of enthusiasm is due to the likelihood that most of your traffic is tech-savy gadget geeks who don’t have a lot of interest in investing in a dead platform (especially for a 2 year contract).

  • efjay

    Got mine, FANTASTIC phone, fast, screen is amazing (as has been said a million times, or seems like it), I have gps, music, video, internet, email, office suite, picture viewer, weather, twitter – dont know about anyone else but I dont need millions of “toy” applications before I deem a phone worth buying, The phone looks and feels like a million dollars, haters just go away, means more for those who actually want to buy the phone.

    And great article, definitely makes sense. Technology doesnt stand still and you could be waiting for forever and a day for the “latest and greatest”.

  • dennis p

    im not buying the hd2 cause its got windows on it and not android. Could care less about win mo 7 as well.

  • JP20

    Like many of you have said, 6.5 is a dying OS, if not dead already. Mozilla pulling stopping development completely for all smartphones running Windows Mobile I think is a start of a trend we’ll see happening more and more in the near future. Are there still going to be developers out there writing apps for 6.5? I’m sure there will be. Will those apps be quality stuff? Maybe. Will there be a lot of apps? Probably not. As a developer, why would anyone want to spend time writing apps for a dying or dead OS?

    I don’t know about anyone else, but I buy things because they’re new. New technology, new software, etc. Although new to the US, this phone has been out for a while in the UK. If I remember correctly, I believe Vodafone discontinued this product back in November. They way I see it, this is an old phone dressed up. No thanks.

    • DotNetCoderAZ

      Wow, I seriously enjoy the whole “WinMo 6.5.x is dying, if not dead already”. Why? Because there will not be a FireFox and/or Flash for it? Wow, let’s abandon ship now. All Windows Devs, quit your jobs today and find a new career…

      Seriously, as someone who does mobile device development for both WinMo and Android, I can tell you full well that this O/S is far from dead or dying. XDA devs are still pushing out apps like crazy and other companies are still releasing apps for WinMo. Opera is still doing active development for WinMo (plus, guess who the leading browser for mobile devices is? No, really, just guess. Opera? Right!)

      Not to mention the upcoming Office 2010 mobile that is currently in beta.

      “As a developer, why would anyone want to spend time writing apps for a dying or dead OS?”
      Windows Mobile 6.5.x is still (and will probably continue to be) the largest O/S in the enterprise market. It is still a hugely lucrative business to be in.

      All this talk about devs abandoning WinMo 6.5.x really needs to be put into check, because as someone IN THE INDUSTRY, I can tell you that we have apps planned for WinMo well into 2010/2011 and probably further out than that.

      So, please, someone explain how this is a dead and/or dying O/S?

  • nforcer

    “Windows Phone’s”? “because I told you too”? Seriously? All the atrocious grammar mistakes that make this plea at giving the HD2 another look make it much less readable and believable. Even with those aside, all this screams to me is a sales pitch by someone who has an undying love for the platform and can’t stand that people disagree with him. Moreso, it makes TMoNews look like a whiny editorial blog rather than a credible news source. Please, stick with the news, or if you’re going to do something like this, at least do it professionally.

    • JP20

      Sounds like a hidden agenda…Hummmmmmm

  • rapaleeman

    I went to the store with all intentions of purchasing. I played with the display version for almost an hour. Changed my mind.

    Ignoring the upgrade issue (which is a big one for me) I just didn’t like it. I felt the phone had way too much going on with it. Not only that but I feel that the direction the phone took (multimedia centric) is really not for me. I will NEVER watch a movie on my phone. I have tried on my iPod Touch and found it to be terrible. I will NEVER buy a book on my phone either. I listen to music but don’t use WMP. It won’t sync with iTunes (obviously) or Zune.

    The phone itself functioned ok but really it was just not for me. I’m still on the fence about WM7 too.

    I guess what it boiled down to was the 500 price tag. The ROIC for me just wasn’t there even though the phone is still a good device. Just not for me.

  • Davidohio

    Very well said David. Windows 7 is going to be locked down and no multi tasking among other downfalls. I would rather have 6.5 any day.

  • https://twitter.com/the_arctic Nathan

    Your arguments for getting the HD2 would make sense if there were no options aside from getting WinMo 6.5 now, or waiting for Windows Phone 7. But as pretty as the HD2 is, it’s still running an antiquated OS that simply cannot compete against the iPhone, webOS, or Android. Not to mention that the HTC EVO 4G was just announced, which runs Android and takes all the HD2′s specs “up to eleven.”

    Honestly, you’ve been pimping this phone so much I’d considered unfollowing you on Twitter. I don’t know anyone who owns Windows Mobile phone. And the few I know who once had WinMo phones, hated them. Even all the corporate types I know use Blackberries or iPhones. So for me, I can’t understand why you’re so excited about this that you would openly question why people wouldn’t want one.

    • DotNetCoderAZ

      “cannot compete against the iPhone, webOS, or Android”

      Really? that’s interesting because I have ported apps from Android over to WinMo and they are nearly identical in performance and features. There is nothing that I can do on iPhone, WebOS, or Android that I can’t do on WinMo. Location aware apps, Accelerometer based gaming, multimedia capabilities, all present on WinMo. It’s the fact that the general public, aka, the consumer market, really never had a need for WinMo and it was never marketed as such.

      Also, if you look at the enterprise market, WinMo still leads over RIM (granted, by a narrow margin, but it still leads). Apple, which barely has 8% of the enterprise market can’t sync Exchange “properly” or fully to spec and Android has less than 2% of the enterprise market share.

      So, for me, a device like the HD2 is extremely exciting simply because it puts WinMo back in the public view and with SenseUI, most people who *think* they hate WinMo, won’t even know they are using it.

      • Bobomo

        You keep yammering on about the “enterprise market”. Does this really seem like the “enterprise market” kind of crowd? Does T-Mobile really cater to that crowd at all? Does this device – with it’s fancy wiper blade animations and lack of keyboard – even pretend to be an enterprise device?

        “Enterprise market” is why web developers are still dealing with IE6… maybe it’s not the best measure of how awesome something is.

  • kathi17

    I used to have WM, but didn’t really like it. When I got my G1, I was really happy with Android. I’m not a WM hater, it’s just that Android suits my needs better.

    The HD2 is a really nice phone, but I would rather wait and continue using my G1 until I see something I really want to upgrade to.

  • kenny

    I am not buying the HD2 for two reasons: With the recent upgrades to the networks in the near future, I believe that better equipped devices (android) will be available. Secondly the HD2 is a windows device. There is not a lot of run for customization with windows.

  • sdot00

    you nailed it right on….when WP7 comes out…there will already be rumors stirring up about something EVEN BETTER in a few months…there will always be hot devices coming out that will be better than before…technology is always changing, and i’m sure they are already even working on even better software than WP7.

  • mike V

    People have avoided the moto cliq like the plague cause of softwaure upgrade issues. Same applies to the hd2

  • tmosal

    Sprint’s 4G is just that. their version of 4G. They don’t have the same network so their 4G runs about as fast as T-Mobile’s 3G. Sprint’s 4G is nothing to write home to mom about.

    • artiepants

      i think Nathens point was less that it’s on Sprints network and mor ethat it’s essentially the same phone but with better specs and running Android…

  • Flgirll

    VERY, VERY WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I’ve wondered the same thing myself about the people that have posted on this site angry that this phone won’t upgrade to WP7. I understand that it’s a little bit of a bummer since there is the chance that WP7 could be amazing and you’ll have to buy a whole new phone to use it. I get that, however, who really knows if it will even live up to the expectations when it is finally released? It could be released and receive horrible reviews. Plus do you really want to try out the first release of WP7? Why not wait until all the kinks are out and then take the plunge.

    For me, waiting on WP7 isn’t worth missing out on this phone (unless you have a phone that you are cool with and don’t really need to upgrade). I think the phone is awesome and I’m going to buy it. :-)

  • Houston

    While Windows Phone 7 Series (WP7S) certainly looks interesting, David is correct in noting that no one really knows how well it will function in a real world situation. From all of the information that has been released, however, it seems that WP7S has taken a giant step back in the area of features or capabilities. A number of things have been cut out of WP7S already that are available in Windows Mobile 6.5 like multitasking and cut-and-paste. In addition, it seems Microsoft is tightening up the reigns on application development (http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=5654).

    I don’t think any of us have used WP7S, but I’m sure some of us have used Windows Mobile at some point in the timeline between 6.0 and 6.5. I used to have the HTC Fuze (Touch Pro) with AT&T and after 3 months of using the stock ROM, I unlocked the security and was flashing ROMs like nobody’s business. What I discovered was that the jump from 6.1 to 6.5 saw a great number of improvements, but most importantly, the updated implementations of TouchFlo3D (or Sense) coupled with the underlying improvements in 6.5, provided a much-improved user experience. In my opinion (I’m making my way down to my local T-Mobile store in about 30 minutes to check out the HD2), Windows Mobile 6.5 with Sense on top is an extremely capable platform. It’s unfortunate that Microsoft didn’t continue 6.5′s development because it’s more “open” than WP7S appears to be.

    With Microsoft seemingly wanting to emulate Apple’s iPhone OS with the distribution model of Android, they are certainly treading through new waters. I do think, however, that Microsoft has decreased the potential for gaining new hardware partners. By setting such strict hardware requirements, Microsoft is essentially requiring that all manufacturers to build the same phone. It seems that the only difference between a Samsung, LG, or HTC phone will be brand name and color (unless Microsoft requires WP7S phones to be black). They might as well just sell their own phone.

    I can understand the desire to have uniformity. At the same time, however, I personally think Microsoft is taking a huge step backwards with WP7S.

  • TroyAG1

    “sdot00

    you nailed it right on….when WP7 comes out…there will already be rumors stirring up about something EVEN BETTER in a few months…there will always be hot devices coming out that will be better than before…technology is always changing, and i’m sure they are already even working on even better software than WP7.”

    This is exactly the reason the device needs to support upgrading, software will get better and if the device is as amazing as everyone says it is, it should support whatever new software can better take advantage of such amazing hardware. But this device with it’s amazing hardware will never be anymore than the day you bought it and that is ok for some. September 2008 that would of been enough for me but then news of Android came and well I’ve been enjoying Freedom of choice on my handset since Oct. ’08 and I now expect more from a Smartphone locked in for 2yrs. than outdated software.

    Enjoy your purchase just know what you are getting yourself into.

  • Drizzle

    Unless WinMo 6.5 is drastically different than 6.1, I could never go back to that OS. Its a shame, this hardware + Android would have been a winner…oh wait, Sprint took that.

  • TroyAG1

    “sdot00

    you nailed it right on….when WP7 comes out…there will already be rumors stirring up about something EVEN BETTER in a few months…there will always be hot devices coming out that will be better than before…technology is always changing, and i’m sure they are already even working on even better software than WP7.”

    This is exactly the reason the device needs to support upgrading, software will get better and if the device is as amazing as everyone says it is, it should support whatever new software can better take advantage of such amazing hardware. But this device with it’s amazing hardware will never be anymore than the day you bought it and that is ok for some. September 2008 that would of been enough for me but then news of Android came and well I’ve been enjoying Freedom of choice on my handset since Oct. ’08 and I now expect more from a Smartphone locked in for 2yrs. than outdated software.

    Enjoy your purchase just know what you are getting yourself into.

    BTW I’m reading it is sold out already so hopefully those are people new to TMO and the device will be good for revenue to continue improving the network.

  • Bryan

    I’m crushed: For me it’s all about the coverage. I use my phone for support and have 4 corporate unix servers sending me messages should a fault develop. A friend just brought his new HD2 over and he had one bar to my 5 with ATT. My speedtest is 1200 down where his struggled to reach 200 on Tmo 3G. I’m on the 7th floor by a window so I’m not sure how much better a location I can get. I’m so bummed because I was seriously ready to jump all over the HD2 and keep winmo6.5. Looks like I’ll keep my fuze dual booting android and EnergyRom. Since this seems to be the last great winmo6.5 phone it looks like I’ll go android. No way I’ll run a locked down OS (apple/winmo7)