What Do You Want From “Project Black?”

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I think it goes without saying right now that speculation for “Project Dark” or “Project Black” as we believe its mistakenly been called around the web is quite high. With that said, either everyone thinks they already know what it is, what it should be or most importantly, what they want it to be. The real question is what it would really take from T-Mobile to pole vault over Sprint to the number three spot. Is the iPhone as a number of you have come to speculate really the answer? Is the iPhone even on the table or is AT&T retaining its kung-fu like grip on the Apple relationship? Regardless of your opinion on the idevice it’s undoubtedly the key to AT&T riches right now regardless of whatever network hell their customers are enduring. So here we have it, a mighty poll for “Project Dark,” as we have read your comments but now want to see where the majority falls with their hopes for whatever it turns out to be. So vote below, if the option you like isn’t there, check other and comment below. Want to continue discussion on “Project Black?” The forums are a mighty fine place to discuss it and they look oh so good these days!

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  • twoboxen

    I could care less about the iPhone. I have one, and it’s NOT the best game in town. Let’s see something really amazing… lower prices across the board!

    free data access for all up to 512Mb, $10 more to make it unlimited?

    Surprise!!! free n900’s for existing customers!

  • trees247

    never heard of this “project”

  • matt

    I voted other, only because I really wanted to vote N900 + 4G! (not 4G on the N900, although that’d be wonderful) But 4G and the N900 separately coming to T-Mobile is enough for me!

    But who knows, maybe this Project Black is something we don’t even know about, none of the above… I’m dieing for an official announcement though from T-Mo!

  • Jose

    Iphone with T-Mobile’s Plan that are better than AT&T, COME ON PEOPLE!! that would be GREAT!!!

  • John

    I have pretty good reason to believe that this Dark Project is actually getting ready for 4 different things, one of which is a 3G equipped netbook device…

  • Smitty

    How about TMO comes out with 4G and allows new/existing TMO iPhone users the ability to connect via current 3G band. So what ever AT&T 3G band is, TMO should adopt it, let existing iPhone users and new ones access it and then roll out 4G.

  • nunyabiz

    Jose,

  • Nick

    The iPhone I think is possible. Everyone in Canada seems to have gotten it away from Rodgers. And telus announced, and so did bell

  • nunyabiz

    Jose, I would have agreed with you up until 3 weeks ago when I got a Mytouch. Now I think Android is much better than the Iphone.

  • watbetch

    Everything plans + iFone. 89.99 a month for unlimited everything.

  • Ricky

    This sucks.. I wanna know so bad.. Unlimited plans like what sprint did would be nice nd at a cheaper price too.. iPhone would be da same cause it can be unlocked.. Maybe it’s some kind of new phone you know maybe like an iPhone 2 dat will be exclusive to tmobile or sumthin since every other tmobile world wide has an iPhone alredy.. 4g would be greatt too nd I see a merger happenin too but with sprint I see it kinda hard since they have no sim cards but they do have black… Maybe merge with att but that wouldn’t make sense.. But still wondering why Black???

  • Ricky

    And a netbook maybe? I see evryone else doing that but I don’t think it will make them move up.. It has to be sumthin bigg

  • 30014

    Let’s be honest with ourselves the iphone is the only phone in America that is a people moving device. When it launched at&t raided all 3 major carriers for subscribers. What other phone has ever done that? I’m not a apple fanboy either(android all the way), I’m just stating the obvious. Whether u love or hate the iphone u know it would bring in a shit load of customers that want one but don’t want to deal with at&t.

  • anonymous

    Its called “project darkhorse”

  • TeflonFong

    An LTE iPhone (with a keyboard?) with an everything plan for 60.00/month…we can dream can’t we ;)

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  • face

    Well here goes nothing, I have a feeling that you will see TMO announce a merge with metro, simply for there LTE spectrum. I also think that Tmo will take a turn toward the DT parent and start to move the wireless word here in the states toward the european market. Look for 40-70 dollar unlimited plans, look for no contracts, and look for no subsidy on handsets. I think with Two N series phones on there way, Tmo will start having mostly all unlocked handsets with tons of features supported by the network which we may get from metro’s lte. I can also see us getting the iphone, there is nothing that apple is enjoying about the partnership with at&t so why would they re-up a deal with them? With the combination of the above this would defiantly make TMO into wireless kings. thats my take, only 2 weeks until we know what it really is!

  • mikeeeee

    UMA android.

    10 myfaves.

  • Jose

    Let’s be honest the myTouch screen is too small to type on, I had the myTouch and I returned it in 4 days, the G1 memory is just to little specially for me. I love the Android software because you actually could do anything with it. But with the Iphone and all the applications and games is just GREAT annnnd it doesn’t “LAG” at all…

  • Dude

    Again…it’s called the “Dark Project”

    Unlimited everything plans? Not happening… Sprint is tanking BECAUSE of their unlimited everything plans. What makes you think that TMO would want to follow that path? That setup is good for the customer, not for the company. 3G/4G networks are expensive and an all everything plan at a uber-low price point will not pay the bills. Simply not happening.

    Netbooks (N900) will definitely be part of the announcement.

  • Alex

    Smitty, thats ludicrous, you cant just “adopt” frequency.

    Im not sure that an iPhone alone would bring people to T-Mobile. Then again, Im not the biggest fan of the iPhone. Im not sure about an announcement that would solely vault T-Mobile into third place. It must be something ridiculous.

  • IwantToKnow

    ok i honestly dont think the iphone will make tmobile step up into 3rd place. att has better 3g and coverage then we do. so why would anyone switch just because are plans are cheaper yea that doesnt mean you will enjoy the phone as much. also tmbile’s flagship are androids look what they did with the touch pro 2. the only thing i can really see make tmo #3 is merging with sprint, more towers, or better 3g with more coverage wich is possible with sprint. sprint is already working on launching phones for nextel that will let them use their 3g coverage and service. so im pretty sure they can do the same with tmo

  • BDot

    In light of all the recent rumors, I gotta go with a merger of some kind.

    Even if T-Mobile got the iPhone tomorrow, it wouldn’t be enough for them to “immediately” vault Sprint as the nation’s #3 carrier. For that to happen, it’d have to be some kind of merger/buyout.

    It’s the only thing that makes sense. Though, I totally wouldn’t be mad at some kind of cheaper “everything” plans being released too.

    Who knows? Maybe we’ll see both?

  • watbetch

    Well honestly, if they just improve their coverage where it matters the most (large pop’s extending out into the suburbs) and market it as so.. people would be content with that.

  • Jimbo831

    @IwantToKnow

    ATT does not have better 3G and coverage than T-Mobile. Have you used the ATT 3G network? It is extremely overloaded and slow in most places. I will concede that they have more 3G areas than T-Mobile, but here in Kansas City, the T-Mobile 3G network actually expands further away form the city than ATT’s does.

    Also, T-Mobile is always rated higher in call quality and lower in dropped calls than ATT every single year by Consumer Reports and JD Power. ATT can show all the commercials about how huge their network is to convince some people like yourself, but that doesn’t make it true. Why do you think the commercial always says they have the most “worldwide” coverage? They can make that claim thanks to lots of overseas roaming agreements. Here in the states, they are really not on par with what T-Mobile offers in areas with coverage, and not that far ahead of T-Mobile in total coverage areas.

    About the announcement, I can’t imagine this is just a phone or a plan. Neither of those will help T-Mobile make up the huge gap between them and Sprint any time soon. Who knows, maybe the whole “going to #3” is just head honchos spewing and trying to sound good. Maybe it’s not even anything exciting and just more smoke signals. T-Mobile has disappointed with a lot of their big announcements in the past.

    I sure do hope this is something huge and game changing though, but I just can’t wait to find out.

  • Jesse

    I think most people are blowing it out of proportion. Theres a few things that are going into it but its not anything around new phones. The releases on the new phones tmobile has been open about.

  • branon

    No matter how many android devices Tmobile brings in, clearly the readers at Tmonews suffer from Iphone envy!

  • Luckout

    I remember back in June there was a leak of T-Mobile carrying Dell netbooks around October. Haven’t heard anything since. This may be part of it. But, overall I think there will be more than one “significant” announcement regarding “Project Black”.

  • Bob

    While there are a lot of you that say “I don’t care about the iPhone” there are MILLIONS of people that DO care about it. Android is pretty cool, and I know that people are buying Android devices because they want the iPhone experience, but in the end, it’s not an iPhone. I wish that you could sync one with iTunes. (doubletwist isn’t an option – no Mac support!)

    It’s just a reality. People love the iPhone, but they hate AT&T. A massive 3G rollout + being a US iPhone carrier would be awesome for T-Mobile.

  • Marc

    I want everything that’s on that list. LOL All of it, gimme gimme gimme

  • Jon

    My guesses:
    1. Satellite voice coverage through TerraStar
    2. iTablet.
    3. Agreement with Clear for WiMax (but while rolling out hspa+??)
    4. Massive price drop: Free SMS/MMS across the board + data price cuts + All you can eat for $99/mo
    5. Massive price reform: Go the EU route for pricing. $1 smartphones with longer contracts, more flexible rate plans (mix and match). See here: http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/ – we currently use “Combi Plan” style pricing. Maybe an intro of flext style pricing.

    The above, I believe, would need BOTH SECRECY AND EMPLOYEE TRAINING! ie, they would fit the bill.

  • The iPhone is bad a$$!!! You guys have no idea what you’re missing. It’s my primary business phone and I have tossed out my TMOUSA Rizr and my corporate Blackberry for it. I’m on Day Three with it now and I love it. It is all that and a bag of chips. I left TMOUSA since being with them for 2003. I thought that the Touch Pro2 would be TMOUSA’s savior and boy was I wrong.

    Project Black will be something lame like a pay-as-you-go plan phone. TMOUSA is going down. I am a life long Apple hater who wishes Steve Jobs would die of pancreatic cancer already, so, if I could make the switch and love the iPhone, TMOUSA is in trouble. TMOUSA will be absorbed in 5 years time because Deutche Telekom won’t put up with the dumba$$ running it who got their MBAs from Cracker Jacks boxes! :)

  • MAXIMUS

    If T-Mobile wants to be a show stopper in this game they need a deal like getting the iPhone on their network. It would be the most disruptive think they could possibly do right now. AT&T customers have been frustrated to hell with the crappy speeds on ‘The Nation’s Fastest 3G Network’ and I think Apple is tired of sharing the blame for this. Now is the moment for T-Mobile to shine…grab the iPhone, continue to roll out 3G+ and watch you profits go through the roof. When the other handsets maker see T-Mobile soaring they’re follow suit to get a piece of the action.

    Anything else is just another ho-hum event for T-Mobile. I’m really sick and tired of those.

  • MTC44

    @Bob

    Better double check that. Doubletwist came out with mac compatibility this week.

    iPhone would bring people in droves. Yes, I realize iPhone can be used 2G on T-Mobile now, but most people don’t feel comfortable using an unlocked phone. Or they simply don’t know it’s an option.

    However, I don’t this is an iPhone situation, mostly due to the fact that we have heard nothing in that regard. And I’m relatively certain a TMO bandwidth iPhone would have to pass FCC (right?). We would have heard about that.

    And it can’t be a merger because that would require DOJ approval. We would have heard about this months ago. Instead, look for new pricing and perhaps a new approach to phone subsidies. Anything else wouldn’t be possible to keep a secret.

  • Dude

    @Elrich

    You come to a TMob website/forum to pimp the iphone and talk trash? What’s your motive?

    TMo will not be ABSORBED as you think they will. You will have to dig deep, but if you do…you will find that TMob as a company is pretty healthy and will make VERY BIG strides in 2010. Don’t take my word for it…do the research or sit back and watch…either way TMob will not be ABSORBED.

  • Anthony Swift

    Everyone!

    The iPhone is what MADE AT&T the way it is now. Mostly everyone either has one or wants one. This could be the answer to bringing T-Mobile up… not to mention how many T-Mobile customers already have an iPhone jailbroken and unlocked to the T-Mobile network. I, myself have an iPhone and I love the functionality, however, I need a physical keyboard with a touch screen…. aka the motorola cliq ;)

    Also,

    Project Black could be something ENTIRELY different…. secret training….. secrets??? haha who knows whats in store for us…. it may just be the end of the year review hahahaha well, hopefully something great…. I am game! ;)

  • @maximus if t-mobile were to put da iphone on its network it would mess up its network it would turn it super slow lie the at&t network. i have at&t and i live in los angeles and i have a blackberry bold and im also affected cause even when i have 5 bars of 3G just to load up google it takes like 3 minutes and to load up other websites like myspace ,yahoo etc it takes like 10 minutes … which i think its a shame cause my sista who has a g1 from t-mobile when her phone has 5 bars of 3G even we have done speed tests together and hers definetly was like 3 times faster. we were both running on 3G. heres loades up google in like 5 seconds and hers loaded myspace the desktop version in 20 seconds bam it was done and yahoo the desktop version like in 10 seconds while my stupid blackberry took like 10 minutes cause it kept on crapping out. i had to be refreshing the page a lot cause all of a sudden it would just stop loading…. so i dont think it would be good for t-mobile to get da iphone on its network … cause at da end they might loose even more customers..

  • Teresa

    The things that makes Tmo inferior to the other carriers is:
    1. T-mo is very slow about keeping up with the latest technology i.e. 3G. There are still places that dont have it. But we pay the prices for data like we do.
    2. open up the ATT towers, we have the agreement in place, stop blocking the towers so that we have more service in more places.
    3. price of phones – T-mo by far is the worst as it relates to phone costs. We may pay less in plans, but we pay more in phones…Iphone=$199 with 3G service.TP2=349.99 not necessarily 3G..
    4. REMOVE MANDATORY DATA PLANS. Go to a tier based pricing based upon max usage – like your minutes
    5. If you have a family plan with family messaging plans, why not have family
    data plans?

  • NobleTMobile

    T-Mo Netherlands just launched something interesting. Your monthly plan is one price on a 1-year agreement and a lower price on a 2-year agreement. Certainly not going to move people in mass but interesting just the same.

    I’m sure this Project Whatever is going to be multifaceted, not just a phone, or just a new plan option, some combination. I’m definitely curious….wish some news would break!

  • Dude

    So I heard from a pretty solid source that the announcement will be based upon netbooks. From what I gather Dell and HP will be the initial manufacturers. This will actually be the announcement and could have a pretty big impact on TMob, but I still believe that there will be a merger/buyout coming down the pipes with Clear & Metro PCS being the primary “targets”. WIMAX AND Netbooks would most definitely take TMob to the next level.

  • Hi!

    finally some people are starting to get it…

    It HAS to be the iPhone or TMobile has completely blown this. (I personally don’t think it will be and am already prepared for the disappointment). It doesn’t matter what you personally think of the iPhone. I don’t care if you hate it….it would be HUGE for TMobile and people would move. So many people are sick of ATT and the iPhone is all they have. If TMobile drops it and it’s at TMo prices (which are WAY below ATT) it would be huge.

    Some sort of netbook/laptop would be beyond worthless. I don’t care if they get 8g…nobody would flinch.

    and some of you people asking for $89 everything plans and $99 “all you can eat” plans are you guys literally retarded? If you want that. Go to Sprint. They have that RIGHT NOW….as in THIS SECOND…..for $70. If TMobile released what you idiots “want” they’d be 10-20 dollars OVER the competition, hahahah. Unless they released an “everything” plan for $60 nobody would blink an eye. And again…it still wouldn’t matter if they did. TMobile and Sprint are cheap…Verizon and ATT are not…who’s number one and number 2? It’s sad but cheaper rates plans would do NOTHING for TMobile. Prepare to be disappointed yet again everyone

  • raysilverstone

    I have to say a merger with Sprint. iphone i am not interested i prefer android. I want the Merger because i really want a hero. 4G is a no because i am still waiting for 3G in my town.

  • J-Hop2o6

    I wan’t tmousa to get ALL OF THOSE options :)

    Oh yea, on the poll about the mergers, you forgot to add the Clearwire agreement. And an agreement with Cricket? I haven’t heard that one.

    But the things i see that’ll really pull in loads of customers is a merger/agreement with Sprint and Clearwire + more/better coverage with HSPA+ & LTE on the horizon. And also gettin the iPhone (or atleast a new version thats in the talks right now that is LTE/HSPA+ capable WITH a keyboard)

    Even tho thats a LONG stretch, that would shake shit up like a California earthquake.

  • Bigg

    What’s with all these ppl and iphones??? Its so last summer, now if they carried the new iphone that apple havent even release yet then that’s something to be excited about but current iphone 3g and 3gs, not really worth the hype, it might be actually bad for tmobile 3g network.

  • Jon

    @Teresa
    1. They’re not slow in keeping up with technology. THEY’RE DEPLOYING HSPA+. They didn’t have 3g spectrum before – in other words, deploying 3g late was out of their hands.
    2. You’ll pay more if you want to roam more on ATT. TMO will eventually jack up rates so they can afford to pay ATT higher transport costs.
    3. You’re comparing an iPhone to a TP2? Are you serious? The iPhone can be compared to a MT3G, but if you think a TP2 is as locked up and limited as an iphone, you’re off your rocker. They’re not even in the same league.
    4. Umm, how do mandatory data plans make TMO worse than other carriers? Every other carrier does this for smartphones too.
    5. I do wonder why they haven’t instituted family data plans (spread that 10GB cap around the entire account for all i care).

  • Jon

    @Hi! – it seems all the re-res are coming out of the woodwork. That said:

    “It HAS to be the iPhone or TMobile has completely blown this.”

    Blown what? Noone but tech-nerds even have heard anthing about this. They won’t have blown jack.

    “Some sort of netbook/laptop would be beyond worthless. I don’t care if they get 8g…nobody would flinch.”

    Beyond worthless? How would a netbook for $99 + 21mbps data speeds be worthless? That’s faster than I get at home on a physical connection.

    “and some of you people asking for $89 everything plans and $99 “all you can eat” plans are you guys literally retarded? If you want that. Go to Sprint. They have that RIGHT NOW….as in THIS SECOND…..for $70.
    If TMobile released what you idiots “want” they’d be 10-20 dollars OVER the competition, hahahah.”

    That’s a 450min plan for $70, genius. Oh, and it’s on Sprint, which practically speaks for itself.

  • By the time TMOUSA has 3G fully deployed, AT&T and Verizon and Sprint will have their 4G systems deployed.

    AT&T still has exclusivity on the iPhone for another year, so, that can’t be Project Black. Merger with Sprint actually sounds reasonable.

    I just wanted to help you all TMOUSA users to get the best out of your wireless experience. I can’t believe how bad a$$ the iPhone is! It’s more than I could ever expect. A great business phone, too, with full MS Exchange support from the start.

    Bye bye TMOUSA, just like AIG.

  • Hi!

    @ Jon……

    “and some of you people asking for $89 everything plans and $99 “all you can eat” plans are you guys literally retarded? If you want that. Go to Sprint. They have that RIGHT NOW….as in THIS SECOND…..for $70.
    If TMobile released what you idiots “want” they’d be 10-20 dollars OVER the competition, hahahah.”

    That’s a 450min plan for $70, genius. Oh, and it’s on Sprint, which practically speaks for itself.

    — Dude! Wake up! Yeah, it’s 450 minutes…oh plus that little fact that you CAN CALL ANY MOBILE IN THE F’N USA!!!! So that’s like myfaves….but FOR EVERYONE EVER….EVER!!!! You just passed that dude on the street? You can call him free. Me, call me free, ANYONE…call them free! Therefore, my point is…IF it’s a plan. It would have to be an everything everything evrything plan for $50 to even matter a liiiittle bit

  • Alex

    Tmobile is declaring war on AT&T. Thats what the training is for.

    btw: ITS NOT A MERGER. Thats a dumb idea

  • epic

    WAR! Haha! Nice one Alex….

  • Jon

    @Elrich – Holy re-re sauce!

    “By the time TMOUSA has 3G fully deployed, AT&T and Verizon and Sprint will have their 4G systems deployed.”

    Let’s see – “4g” wimax gets 6mbps speeds, while HSPA+ gets 21mbps. I’ll take “3g” hspa+ over “4g”, thank you very much. Marketing speed doesn’t mean crap if it’s non-existant (LTE) or slower than 3g (WiMax).

    I just wanted to help you all TMOUSA users to get the best out of your wireless experience. I can’t believe how bad a$$ the iPhone is! It’s more than I could ever expect. A great business phone, too, with full MS Exchange support from the start.

    I prefer the TP2. Or the G1. Or any of the countless phones with KEYBOARDS. I have a virtual keyboard on my G1 that’s great, but guess what? I use my phone for work, and virtual keyboards on top of the screen don’t even come close to being as useful.

    Go over to Engadget if you wanna be around a bunch of Lemming iphone users like yourself.

  • Grr

    Actually I personally know T-Mobile is going to begin turning on 3G in some smaller cities as early as next week where there is no AT&T 3G coverage. Not bad after being 2-3 years behind.

  • kenbot

    Face : “Well here goes nothing, I have a feeling that you will see TMO announce a merge with metro, simply for there LTE spectrum. I also think that Tmo will take a turn toward the DT parent and start to move the wireless word here in the states toward the european market. Look for 40-70 dollar unlimited plans, look for no contracts, and look for no subsidy on handsets. I think with Two N series phones on there way, Tmo will start having mostly all unlocked handsets with tons of features supported by the network which we may get from metro’s lte. I can also see us getting the iphone, there is nothing that apple is enjoying about the partnership with at&t so why would they re-up a deal with them? With the combination of the above this would defiantly make TMO into wireless kings. thats my take, only 2 weeks until we know what it really is!”

    That would be so fucking awesome.

  • pecoy

    how can we see the older comments?

  • I could personally careless about a T-Mobile iPhone (except for say it’ll get friends off my back about jumping over to AT&T for it) as I love my QWERTY keyboard on my SideKick LX09. However, if this is going to be a huge jump for them, I hope it’s a big marketing plan that’ll work and bring more people over.

    If an Unlimited Everything plan is in the works, I’m ready to sign-up right now. I backed out of my chance at the Unlimited minutes plan being offered before as I didn’t need the minutes, but I still wish I had that as a back up. If they do merge with Sprint, maybe I could get a Simply Everything plan LOL.

  • watbetch

    Why can’t I go back and look at older comments?

  • watbetch

    Because I’m blind

  • Rob

    T-Mo can’t have iPhones because their 3G network SUCKS and I can safely say that because I gladly give my $25 for a G1 plan that works on EDGE 80% of the time.
    I would rather see an “EVERYTHING INCLUDED” plan.
    My contract exp. in Nov. and I plan to wait til Project “whatever” to see what’s coming up. if I don’t like it Sprint…here I come.

  • Deaconclgi

    I guess I am blind too, because I can’t see where to go to page 2 of the comments…..

  • Deaconclgi

    Hmmmm…that is funny, after I made my post, a link appeared to view older comments. I tested it by closing the broswer and coming back, the link is NOT under Trackbacks/Pingbacks and all that stuff….but once I post…voila!

    hmmmm…

  • Deaconclgi

    Ok, tested again….HEY TMONEWS!!! Please put the Older Comments link in the same area BEFORE we post so that we can view older comments. If I missed it before I posted, then that is my fault. From what I see, it is NOT under Trackbacks/Pingbacks prior to posting. Thank you and keep up the good work!!!

  • Daniel

    wow seems a lot of people are rooting for an iPhone on t-mobile i say just buy one unlocked unless its a totally new and different iPhone maybe the apple tablet running on TMO 3g to take place as a netbook

  • lazyn00b

    Hmm, maybe my tablet guess wasn’t too far off… I think this just might be Project Black:

    http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/wsj-barnes-and-noble-planning-its-own-touchscreen-ebook-reader/#comments

    They say “wireless internet”, but they don’t say who.

  • Iasthai

    These kind of things are hard to predict. I think more than likely it will be some kind of new rate plan. T-Mobile seeems to be in a better position to undercut the competition in terms of pricing. But it will most likely start a price war with the other carriers.

  • jtothada

    @rob idk where u stay at but I live in Houston and I get 2mb download on 2 bars and 3.7 on 4 bars….. wihich I think is pretty fast, and I hope tmo gets tha iphone it would really push them to 3rd place over sprint, I think I might evev get one even thou I’m so anti-iphone/ipod, but if it was a merger wall street or the fcc would kno, idk she why 4g would be such a big secret or sum how push them to 3rd in rank, when 3g not even nation wide, everything plans wouldn’t be effective to me, right now u can get free to 5 people 1000 anytime and data & unlim text for under $100, so what would be the plan? and the n900 is goin to be my next phone, no matter if tmo carrys it or not!

  • Titty!

    ahh; hearing t-mobile with a plan makes me happy (:
    everything I anticipated. . :)
    “Project Black” . . . sounds so secretive, fun & amaazing;

    First, I don’t care much about the iPhone; not a fan my self, but I do admit
    it would do them good. Being the carrier subsidizing iPhone; yeah say bye-bye at&t :)
    All their iPhone customers, would come to us
    which is alot I assume, (Why? Idk.) don’t see how people adore this phone so much
    bit it’d t-mobile good so watever C:

    ok; so I agree with iphone .
    Do I think it should be there first plan with Project Black?no;
    Here’s what I would like (:

    A merger with; Sprint(duh) & recieve our place in 3rd vs other competitors
    possible merger with metro & clearwire(I see that happening)
    ok(: & then from there obviously off to phones;
    nokia n900 – early 2010; sounds Great!
    Mytouch; I sense alot of great things for . since it is trademark they are likely to come out with more (ie mytouch 2?)
    now cell phones; something tells me they know what they’re doing.
    so keep doing it:) keep us happy with mytouch/android, bring along nokia n900 & towards the end when Project Black goes well shoot at&t down by taking iphone :) a battle you’ll sure win .

    You’re 3G has the speed for it. Personally I think its the fastest yet
    & with the merger with sprint, etc. Work on LTE; of your own cuz sprint’s speeds are slow . Sad for them, good for us :)
    so yeah pretty much buy sprint, simply to take them outta their 3rd slot
    leaving only two carriers to compete with(; AT&T & VW
    Good luck with VW; you’ll have fun ;)

    One thing I say though, Project Black seems BIG. you’ve got people excited; make sure you dissappoint us .
    therefore meaning, please let it not be a promotion or a limited time thing, rather then a long-term difference a company, it’s costumers, employees, & community. :)

    YOU’RE THE BEST!

    TEAM T-MOBILE.
    :)

  • Titty!

    RT: jotothada @rob

    Yeah rob, you unloyal unappreciative son of a d**k, be thankful t-mobile is doing this for you .
    be happy lucky, & even hopeful that they may bring a Simply Everything plan? Would that make you happy & shove a sock in it?
    cuz seriously go ahead, sign yourself another contract to another company(sprint)
    For thee dumbest reason; & get stuck with it.

    & as for the 3g, be happy you have it
    I have no 3g capable phone & yet I’m more loyal, I’m waiting to get my mytouch:)
    this month . Woot!
    and as for speeds, I’ve tested them & they are super fast!
    & don’t disregard the HSPA+ upgrade we’re having.

    Suck it! How do you like them apples .

    (ps) no offense, no hard feelings:)
    just the truth & what I believe :D

  • joel

    Oh? How mysterious.

    If it is an everything-included plan, it definitely would make sense to have a CSR “all-hands-on-deck” for the launch day.

  • Derek

    Maybe new generation of iphone! =]

  • Like I said, ALL HANDS CANNING!!! TMOUSA is closing shop!!! Project Black!!!

  • edd

    why do people want the iphone? i dont want the tmobile network to be crippled =[

  • MobilePro

    Here is a great reason why Apple should go with T-Mobile, we have the best EDGE network capbility and our 3G runs on two platforms. Incoming platform and Outgoing platform which allows people to download at a faster rate without much lag. T-Mobile has a lot of upcoming technology that will blow away some of the competitors. We need to realize that T-Mobile is a smaller company but has lots of potential and the first phase of potential was when the launch of Android devices hit the market, now other carriers are trying to implement the use of Android on their markets because it was so hott. But, hopefully T-Mobile will acquire the IPHONE!!

  • Hi!

    people want the iPhone because it will be HUGE for TMobile. A poop ton of people would come over to take advantage of TMobiles great customer service and lower rate planes and then TMobile would make a ton of money. That money could then be invested back into the company bringing us more 3G coverage, more “next generation” connection options, and maybe…for the first time ever, devices that aren’t lacking behind all the other carriers

  • Joe

    I really don’t get why so many people want to see the iPhone on T-Mobile. Frankly, I’m glad it isn’t on tmo. I don’t want it cripping our network like it has AT&T’s. I would much rather see T-Mobile work with MetroPCS on LTE rollout.

  • NobleTMobile

    “for the first time ever, devices that aren’t lacking behind all the other carriers”

    I never quite get this.

  • 30014

    Why can’t I read the older comments without leaving a comment? But getting back on topic, to everyone that doesn’t want the iphone on tmo, if u don’t want the iphone no one will force u to get it. Its the only phone people would switch carriers for. Android, blackberry, and winmo are being offered by everyone and nokia has never been a major player in America. But its going to take more than just a phone to get tmo where it wants to be. Their advertising is the weakest of all the carriers, promote your strengths and attack your competitions weaknesses. Much like vz did to at&t with their “there’s a map for that” commercial.

  • D

    I hate the iphone.

  • newspeak

    Iphone would be boring and not game changing in any way (its on the market how much more game changing can ya get with the thing). A rate plan restructure would be great….its prolly a host of things combined

    I could also see then switching on hsdpa 7.2 all at one time

  • David

    It wont be anything like a merger or buying Sprint. If that was going to be done, it would be all over the news.

  • Cybersedan

    Can’t wait for 10/25, I hope whatever it is does live up to all this hype, and it better not be something as simple as getting the iPhone… that would mean nothing for me, I’m an android head with no time to play with ipods.

  • Carl

    @Elrich
    your a idiot, DT is the 6th largest cell phone carrier service in the world. Like that would ever happen.
    I agree with people that the iPhone would cripple T-Mobile’s network, we all have seen the pitiful download speeds AT&T musters up. Nevertheless, it would still be nice to get it.

  • Derek

    I would like to see all call text and data ran over a new hspa+ network and only have to pay for a data plan stuff the iphone its over rated

  • Noel

    What i would hope or like to see Project Black to be abt..T mobile to carry the HTC DRAGON w/ android 2.0 (Eclair) w/ killer specs such as 1GHZ Snapdragon processor, and maybe a 3.8 to 4 inch capacitive touch screen w/ sense ui onboard..w/a phone like this Tmobile doesn’t need the iphone. Maybe throw in an everyth plan while they are at it..

  • one2tres

    @ noel isn’t the htc dragon a winmo device?

  • Brandon

    All I can is that on 10/25/09 I hope that Tmobile announces somethings that will benefit the company(like the iphone or merging with Sprint). If they dont and all the hype was 4 nothing, imm out the door to Sprint in February whe my contract ends.

  • broken

    weird comment older post button

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  • Some Dude

    Its not the iPhone. Period. Its not a device. Its not a 4g launch. Oh and it is most certainly not called project black. I think you are all pumping yourselves up too much. Then when it is not what you expected you’ll be here bitching about how T-Mobile let you down, even though “dark project” is strictly an internal thing that you weren’t supposed to know about in the first place.

  • johnkzin

    If “project black” is the N900, then it’s the worst kept “black project” secret _EVER_.

    What I want from a project black/project dark/whatever:

    1) new data plan terms (specifically, a return to open-ness for tethering; per-day limits instead of per-month limits)

    2) decent pre-paid data plans (basic per-mb or per-kb rate for both pay-as-you-go and pay-per-day, optional bundles for pay-as-you-go, and optional daily rate for pay-per-day)

    3) same as #2, but for messaging

    4) an aggressive plan for 4G

    5) Mifi (on regular data plan, flexpay, and pre-paid)

    6) A response to Sprint’s “unlimited calls to any mobile on any network” plan

  • Grr

    T-Mobile is not soccer. It may only be huge in Europe now, but it will catch on in the US.

  • Project Black is a merger or a all-hands canning. Deutsche Telekom has had enough with the dumba$$ management by TMOUSA that let a subscriber since 2003 with good credit jump to AT&T to the iPhone. The iPhone is quite impressive, a great business phone too. The iPhone is more than I ever expected. I thought that the TP2 would be the savior for TMOUSA but I am wrong. No exclusivity with Android, and can’t even get the best Android devices (see Sprint HTC Hero), no exclusivity with their savior TP2 (see Verizon and Sprint).

    If someone like me who hates Republicans (yes AT&T supports them heavily), and hates Apple and wishes Steve Jobs would die of pancreatic cancer already, could love the iPhone, then TMOUSA is doomed. Good luck to you all, you have no idea what you’re missing — it took me switching to see the light. It’s an eye-opener, I was living in the Stone Age.

  • epic

    Elrich, man, you are soooo right. I see the light now. I use to say…”it ain’t that serious….” But I guess it is. /beliefs If you converted despite all your dislikes, I guess we all should, Geez…. I’m just messing with yah, but thanks for wishing me/us luck.

  • epic

    Elrich, man, you are soooo right. I see the light now. I use to say…”it ain’t that serious….” But I guess it is. If you converted despite all your dislikes/beliefs, I guess we all should, Geez…. I’m just messing with yah, but thanks for wishing me/us luck.

  • Duck Dodgers

    What no older comment button.

  • eherrera

    i heard that project black really means that sidekicks’ networks are going to “blackout” and not work right…not to mention loose all your personal data

  • Elrich, you are a real piece of… work. *cough*

  • IwantToKnow

    i think project black means the htc hero is coming to tmobile and the imagio and also 4g launch and better service

  • IwantToKnow

    i also think project black means windows mobile 6.5 upgrade for the touch pro 2

  • Anonymous

    A T-mobile iPhone is not that far fetched, especially if its true that Apple and At&t’s relationship is on shaky ground. T-Mobile has the iPhone in Germany. How is their relationship with Apple? As far as unlimited everything for $50? I don’t think so. Just unlimited minutes for $50 to the select tenured customers is putting too much demand on their network and reps are not supposed to proactively offer it unless the customer asks for it first. A 4G network when their 3G network has barely gotten off the ground. I doubt it. The N900 thing. Possible but unlikely something this secret and with so much buzz wouldn’t be about releasing an unlocked phone. So in my opinion its either a merger with one of the other companies or hopefully the iPhone. They should put everything up for hock to get the iPhone. Its the one good decision that could make up for all the bad decisions they have made for the past year.