Rumored Project Dark Pricing

By David Beren October 21, 2009 10:11 am EST Comments (532)

Project Dark, we have high hopes for you and we sure hope this is enough to catapult you into the good graces of the wireless deities.

I know what you all want and we are prepared to deliver. We’re putting this in the rumor column at this point but we’re pretty confident on this pricing. You’re going to skip right past anything else I write so here is what we know:

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Tags: Project Black, Project Dark

laxama

If these rumored price points are accurate, I’ll be jumping ship when my contract expires in December. This certainly isn’t the game changer we were all hoping for.
http://www.russellheimlich.com/blog Russell Heimlich

Hmmm 500 minutes with text and web works for me. Especially if it is less than $70.
Carlos

First!

BULL…That’s what I pay now…
Matt

I never made the mistake of having such high hopes. But, that said, it ain’t over till the fat lady sings and Oct. 25th still isn’t there. Whoever gave out this information could have done it with misdirection in mind. If these prices turn out to true, I WILL not be going to T-Mobile any time soon. Straight Talk will still remain king for the Unlimited Talk/Text/1XRTT Web browsing. T-Mobile’s network is also decidedly inferior to Verizon Wireless. Straight Talk prominently advertises that it uses Verizon’s network.
Anna

Yeah, I don’t see how this is going to help them with any jump in the market. Furthermore, I don’t really see much reason to stick around.
Tortri

This sounds like the family plan
rickysyfee

why is this disappointing?

I have been shopping and the next cheapest is sprint with 99 dollars unlimted everything–

who is better?- if I cant get a good deal on a smart phone i gotta go too
Lefton Jackman

Lame. Looks like the most I will get out of this is a touch of leverage to get a sweeter deal to stay with Sprint.
Matt

Smart phones are really only a “necessity” if you run your own business or your employer provides one for you. In this economy, we should be evaluating NEEDS vs. WANTS. Yeah, it is cool to have the bling of the smartphone but that bill is a kick in the gonads. I do miss my smart phone for the qwerty keypad for messaging but Straight Talk does have that kind of phone.
eYe

ummm, how is this a game changes? I have unlimited talk ($50) and web+text for G1 ($30) AND I got a phone discount vs $80 for the same thing but no phone discount. Pretty lame, and this is the first time I am dissapointed about t-mo pricing, most of the time I wine about their phone selection. Oh well, everybody else is more expensive anyway.
deangelo724

Now, this is just what I expected. T-Mobile has being doing some very impressive research. They came up with a way to make the same amount of money from the same customer either way. Example: Even More +: UnlTTW 79.99 plus 499.99 handset= 54.99/month. Even More: UnlTTW 99.99 plus 149.99 handset=92.49/month over the course of the contract. You pay more with recieving(discounts) as opposed to the Even More+ plans.

However here is the deal. With Even More Plus+, I am sure that while you have one handset already being financed, you cannot choose that option again to receive another phone, for those of us who are techo-geeks. Whereas with Even More, you pay the discounted price upfront. And if you so choose to purchase another device, you will paying the Full Retail, as your “discount” or upgrade has been redeemed previously, unless you wait the 22 months.

So this is a stomper i guess. Just wait it out and see guys.

Where is Cincinnati with the 3g?
http://tmotoday.com/blogs/tmobile-craver TMCraver

I hope this pricing is wrong otherwise I’ll be staying grandfathered… or heck maybe i’ll go for the droid. Idk this just doesn’t seem right to me at all, to be honest 100 for unlimited everything doesn’t even beat sprint’s unlmt. plan there’s no way this will get t-mobile out of 4th place… I’m betting the pricing will be better than this.
TheViper

Oh boy! I can save 5 whole dollars if I get the exact same plan I have now on ‘even more plus’ (1k min+unlim txt+web)… and I can pay for my phones in full rather than getting any sort of discount!! AWESOME!!

*Note: It actually would cost me more to switch to the “cheaper” ‘even more plus’ plan if you factor in the full cost of the phone. I don’t even want to know what’d it be on ‘even more’
zapote21

Its not that its much cheaper, its that its almost the same as now.

Example now: 1000 myfaves + unl txt+web = $95

Future: Unl txt+min+web = 80 or 100

NOT much different and certainly not a game changer.
Matt

How reliable is this source of information?

David

Same source who provided the original graphic for the even plus, even more plans

Brett

Lame, it’s only $5 less than I’m paying now. I had so much hope for Project Dark, I should have know it would be all hype.
BBSwany

I pay less than that now with my Unlimited Loyalty… $ 95/Month with taxes…
Matt

So, the source is fairly reliable then.
jenny

I dont find that a deal at all. 50 bucks at metro pcs, and i dont leave my town that often to need coverage else where. I was going to stay with T-mobile, but i dont know now. Guess i will wait and see what the real deal is going to be.
Brian

his tweet was right…disapointed
Jose

What about family plans?? Anything new??
mistermix

Matching Sprint is a “game changer”?

What are they smoking at TMo HQ? This is worse than pathetic.
deangelo724

I’m guessing the names of the plans should’ve been “You Pay Even More” aned “You Pay Even More Plus full retail of your handset”
Grr

The pricing doesn’t sound right. On one hand, I know T-Mobile did not create a lot of hype for this, but it has been hyped up due to the amount of the level of secrecy involved. Some of these pricings aren’t even significantly better than offers T-Mobile has had in the past. It smells fishy to me.
Hushpook

Lets hope these rate plan leaks are inaccurate, and that this so called ‘Project Dark’ is more than just new rate plans. I would expect little to no bump in T-Mobile activity if this is the extent of the changes.

Lets remember…these are the same fools that proclaimed ‘T-Mobile @ Home’ to be a game changer. There is an outstanding chance that some higher ups in Bellevue, WA doesn’t know what the phrase ‘game changer’ means. Brings to mind the old saying, “don’t wiz down my leg, then try to tell me its raining.”
Steven

Wow, this is crap. It’ll be cheaper for me to keep my existing family plan by the sound of that. Way to blow this T-Mobile. Glad I didn’t really get my hopes up.

This is not game changing. If they wanted to be game changing I think they really needed to be close to the $45 StraightTalk unlimited everything plan.
ag

I hope these are family plans, I’m not sticking around with their lame phones for this. Even though the pricing is still cheap I would much rather have a droid and maybe, hopefully tmobile has some android power coming soon. That Verizon Droid is looking more and more attractive.
Hushpook

Make that ‘some higher ups don’t know’. Sorry
http://www.thesearethedroids.com Android 1

These numbers can’t really be correct, can they? It’s really the same pricing as everyone else and the only “bonus” is the financing/payment plan, which you can do now. I am looking for a family plan with unlimited text and web and around 1500 minutes, such as Sprint’s family plan, and I need it to be cheaper than $130 for me to consider T-Mobile. Of course, I don’t see the family plans listed, but considering the individual plans are about the same, I am not holding my breath. T-Mobile, if you can do what I want for $100 a month, I’m in. If not, I’ll try Sprint or wait for Verizon’s Droid costs.
Boy Rockin On

WOW this sucks, I hope when they tell the full details on project blk this info is wrong, cause if not, there is no deal.
db

I already have this pricing structure right now. So, what good does this change do for me. I currently have unlimited everything for $84.95. That’s a $5 difference. Where is my benefit?
Patrick

I would HIGHLY doubt this pricing. Seeing as how current T-Mobile customers can switch to the loyalty plan for FREE and get $50/month unlimited talk…it’d be idiotic to start charging them $35 to switch and NO one will switch. It’d be a HUGE waste of time. Unlimited talk/text/web for $70 doesn’t even ALMOST beat out Sprint’s deal, and T-Mobile isn’t dumb enough to make this huge deal out of something if all they’re gonna do is add unlimited web to a $99 plan, there’s no need for the big secret. Sprint already has that. I don’t know how you could even say you’re CONFIDENT of these prices when common sense and context clues say otherwise
Computergeek377

This is VERY disappointing. I won’t be switching plans anytime soon. Thank God my contract does not expire until 2011. I am not giving up my My Faves 300 plan and unlimited text and web for 59 bucks.

After 2011 if these plans are still in effect I will switch carriers.

T-Mobile, what are you guys thinking with this??????? This is not a game changer!!!
mistermix

A poster at HoFo confirms the $60,$70,$100 pricing, and adds the family pricing:

$100, $120, $180

http://howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=13132605&postcount=261

Just awful.
spicaly

1000 with text and web 69.99

im paying less now for the same thing
Bigg

FAILED
MobilePaddy

So all this time, “even more” meant we are going to charge you more that what you can possibly imagine?

T-Mobile = epic fail (if these prices are true)
Kenathon

What about the N900? I thought that was coming out soon and not the leaked plans don’t even mention it! Does anyone know when the N900 will be landing on the T-mobile lineup?
Gary

Oh. My. God. I am paying less than this now for a family unlimited everything loyalty. This is NOT industry changing. If anything, this will ruin the industry. =\
wl

if this is true Tmobile has just shit itself in the foot
Gary

Also, why should no contract pricing be $20 more off the top, if I am going to have to pay full price for my phone?

ps. Feel free to edit this and my last together if you can.
Elias

@David

Maybe it’s time to start sprintnews.com cause Tmobile’s gonnal lose alot of people with these rates.
Steven

T-Mobile = FAIL!
deangelo724

Pricing look fine to me!! Unlimited TTW for 79.99 on Even More plus. great job!! As Sprint only has Unlimited to any Mobile for 70. Great Job!!
allan…

I think this is the family plan. At least from what I’ve heard I got a frend that works for the tmo call center in ft lauderdale fl and he said it sounds like the family plan though he still can not confirm for fear of being fired or reprimanded
Computergeek377

Cricket and other “regional carriers” that T-Mobile thought customers would flock from must be laughing their a**** off at this. If anything this will make me switch to one of them. Their plans are cheaper then this.
rfgenerator

Don’t want text, don’t use it, don’t need, but yet if you want web you have to pay for text. Ridiculous.
http://utahcon.com Utahcon

I am shocked. The pricing here seems off. This is not a competitive option at all.

Reading this, people who opt for a contract (Even More) are going to pay $20 a month more than people who go sans contract (Even More Plus)? Where the hell is the value in that? Unless the phones are heavily subsidized (I am talking Samsung Memoir sub $100) there is no way people will contract with Tmobile.

Throw money and logistics out the window… the wording here is all fouled up anyways, who would give you a 20 month installment plan on a NON CONTRACTED phone purchase? That doesn’t even make sense. I get that TMO wants to get all the new users they can, and bog down my network, but this seems like it would/should scare people away from TMO.
Patrick

those aren’t the rates. i’m telling you. just because ONE person says there was a sign dropped off you believe it. no pictures, NOTHING. as stated before. why in the WORLD would t-mobile make a huge secret out of doing something that SPRINT is already doing with the 100 unlimited plan. People…trust me on this. that’s NOT the pricing. the whole reason they’re doing this is to compete with sprint’s $70 plan!!!!
Patrick

nevermind…see pics now