Binge On will let T-Mobile customers stream video without using their high-speed data allotment

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UPDATE: One note about Binge On and Data Stash is that if you want to use Binge On, a 20GB limit will be imposed on your Data Stash. If having an unlimited Data Stash is more important than Binge On’s free video streaming, you can opt out of the 20GB Data Stash limit here. Thanks to Chuck E Cheese and @madhatman for the heads-up!

 

Un-carrier X is official, and it’s called Binge On. Think of Binge On like Music Freedom for video, because it lets you stream video without using your high-speed data allotment.

Binge On will support 24 video services at launch, including Netflix, WatchESPN, HBO Go, and HBO Now. Binge On even includes Go90 and DirecTV, which are owned by Verizon and AT&T, respectively. T-Mo says that more services are on the way, adding that it’s in discussions with Google about adding YouTube and that it’ll work with any other partners that want to join Binge On. Here’s the full list of services that’ll be supported by Binge On at launch:

  • Crackle
  • DirecTV
  • Encore
  • ESPN
  • Fox Sports
  • Fox Sports Go
  • Go90
  • HBO Now
  • HBO Go
  • Hulu
  • MLB
  • Movieplex
  • NBC Sports
  • Netflix
  • Sling TV
  • Sling Box
  • SHOWTIME
  • STARZ
  • T-Mobile TV
  • Univision Deportes
  • Ustream
  • Vessel
  • Vevo
  • VUDU

With Binge On, video will stream at “DVD quality (480p+).” T-Mobile says that it’s using proprietary technology to optimize streaming video for mobile screens, and as a result, users can watch “up to three times” more video on services that aren’t yet included with Binge On. If you’d prefer to watch video without T-Mobile’s Binge On optimization tech, like if you want to beam video to a TV and you want higher-quality video, you’ll be able to flip a switch in your account and turn the feature off.

Binge On is available to all customers with a data plan of 3GB or higher. It’ll be available to customers on Simple Choice Amped plans starting November 15, and everyone else will get it on November 19. To celebrate the launch of Binge On, T-Mobile is partnering with Sling TV to give Simple Choice customers 30 percent off a 1 year subscription to Sling’s “Best of Live TV” service, which regularly costs $20 per month and includes channels like ESPN, ESPN2, AMC, Food Network, A&E, TNT, History Channel, Travel Channel, Cartoon Network, and more.

Unlimited data subscribers, you’re getting something special, too. Magenta is teaming up with VUDU to give unlimited 4G LTE customers a free VUDU movie rental each month of 2016.

Binge On is definitely a big move for T-Mobile, which is probably why it got its own Un-carrier event today. Obviously there are some big names missing from the service, most notably YouTube, but T-Mobile did add services to Music Freedom as time went on, so we’ll have to wait and see if that’ll be the case with Binge On, too. As with Music Freedom, though, there are net neutrality concerns with Binge On, with some folks concerned that it could give T-Mobile the power to decide whether or not particular services get used by consumers. Some consumers might avoid using a service if it’s not in Binge On because it’ll use up their limited data allotment. For it’s part, T-Mobile argues that Binge On isn’t a net neutrality issue because it’s free, consumers have the ability to turn Binge On on and off, and it says that it’ll work with anyone that wants to be a part of Binge On.

So now that it’s official, what do you think of Binge On? Excited to watch more shows on the go? Think that it is a net neutrality issue, despite T-Mo’s claims?

Source: T-Mobile

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  • Where’s YouTube?

    • Chris Drudge

      Same place RedTube is. Not on the list.

    • Brad

      Don’t forget: it took a while for google play music to be certified… I imagine it’s a similar situation.

      • Android_God

        The quality will be gimped so I wonder if that is part of the problem. I realize you can easily shut off Binge but perhaps Google wasn’t ok with 480P or the proprietary system of data compression? I would find it hard to believe that T-Mobile didn’t go to Google as one of the first companies to pitch this to.

        • Brad

          They may have… google might drag their feet on these things. I was having a dickens of a time figuring out why you’d want to turn off binge, though, til I saw the 480p stuff. Wondering what chromecast is gonna do.

        • Android_God

          I LOVE your use of,”dickens of a time”!!!!

  • Bruce Wayne

    YouTube is needed.

  • Bryan Pizzuti

    Google Play Movies and TV is needed.

  • dontsh00tmesanta

    YouTube for kids on tablets lol

  • williejackbrainer

    Just curious as to how this is going to really play out. I read an article about Comcast charging it’s customer an additional charge for exceeding 300gb.

    • steveb944

      Comcast is allowing their own services to be unlimited, while T-Mobile doesn’t directly benefit from this as their T-Mobile TV was already unlimited.

  • PC_Tool

    The other services will come online. They just need to get set up. This will be like Music Freedom – Any legal/licensed streaming provider will be able to work with T-Mobile to get added.

  • Bill

    If T-Mobile does this with YouTube, we will probably experience sluggish data speeds.

    • hristopelov

      netflix takes 30-35% of all internet traffic in US.. ALL, not just video, so i think they added the more data consuming service, youtube should follow.. i hope

    • Most of the popular YouTube videos will be available with Binge On because Vevo hosts two-thirds (at the time of writing) of the top 100 YouTube videos.

  • peharri

    Missing, Amazon, Google Play and Youtube. Still, it’s not a bad selection by any means (and I wonder if the absence of Amazon is due to Amazon themselves doing something as they’ve been playing control freak rather a lot lately)

    • gpt2010

      I agree. I love shopping on Amazon but they are controlling with other vendors that are in direct competition.

    • Xbox Video (now Movies and TV) is missing as well.

    • The availability of Vevo, if that’s what you’re into, will make two-thirds (at the time of writing) of the top 100 YouTube videos available with Binge On. I don’t like a lot of Vevo artists, but there’s a large enough répertoire to find something that I do enjoy.

  • Do anyone know if NBC Sports Extra is among the apps that are part of Binge On?

  • Rene Shabastari

    Netflix
    HBO NOW
    HBO GO
    Hulu
    Sling TV
    Sling Box
    ESPN
    Showtime
    Starz
    Movieplex
    Encore
    T-Mobile TV
    Vevo
    Vessel
    Univision Deportes
    Major League Baseball
    Go90
    DirecTV
    Fox Sports
    Fox Sports GO
    NBC Sports
    Crackle
    VUDU
    Ustream

  • hristopelov

    Netflix accounts for more than 30% of ALL internet traffic.. we should get youtube added, then my $30 monthly plan will realy rock :)

    • theseanteam

      Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I don’t believe the $30 plans are covered by this unless you are referring to an add-a-line to a simple choice plan.

  • justanormalguy13

    I didn’t catch it, does this include tablets too?

  • mingkee

    I realize these are subscription-based video service though I have Netflix.
    This may not big for me as I have grandfathered $20 unlimited. However, it may benefit my $10 5GB Data Match.

  • Bryan Pizzuti

    This is probably much more than just signing an agreement. I bet T-Mobile is requiring a direct, private network link between T-Mo and their datacenters in order to offer this.

  • not a fan of this move

    Am I the only who doesn’t like this move??? As T-mobile continues to grow by adding more and more customers, the data capacity takes a toll…and now allowing millions of users to stream for free, imagine the impact this will have on the network! In theory sounds nice, but I’m concerned on the capacity toll…T-mobile already offers great amounts of data, as well as providing an unlimited option, so I don’t think this move is needed as it will ultimately have an impact on capacity which will translate in congestion and slower speeds…not happy with this move…

    • kev2684

      having everyone automatically signed up for BingeON means all those people streaming at 720p or 1080p will now be streaming at 480p. it will use less data than before giving back capacity on their towers. unless customers are aware of this change, it will actually help T-Mobile.

      • Fabian Cortez

        “480p+” per T-Mobile.

    • I suspect that their “watch 3X more video” initiative is a compression technology where video is now one-third of its original size in bytes. Plus, as kev2684 points out, it’s only available on ~480p. I see the file size (audio and video) is 116 KB/s or about 0.933 Mbit/s for a Rachael Lampa video, which may now be under ⅓ Mbit/s with Binge On. In other words, this should improve speeds, not bog ’em down. :-)

    • theseanteam

      You might not be the only one who doesn’t like the move, but it doesn’t mean your assumptions are correct.

      T-Mobile is a business of adding customers–if they dod not continue to add customers, they will ultimately fail. Only someone so short sighted and selfish would be against T-Mobile improving their offering to attract more customers.

      Considering all the great things T-Mobile has done so far, one would hope that as they continue to build their base, they continue to add more capacity to keep that base happy. Because they are no contract and they have their Lifetime Satisfaction Guarantee, people are free to leave if they become dissatisfied. It is up to Legere and the rest of the T-Mobile team to make sure their customers are happy–and that includes data speeds and coverage.

      Finally, by getting customers, both new and old to stream lower resolution video, they may actually be reducing their load. No different than with Music Freedom. So it might be more people, streaming more content, more often, but the weight of each stream would be less and in the long run make the system more efficient.

      I’m not an expert by any means, but I did not see any noticeable negative changes when Music Freedom was released in my area, although your area could be different. With the acquisition of more spectrum and improving their back haul, I could see speeds and coverage only increasing in the long run…

  • Jay

    I see most ppl don’t see this as a good move. Not only is free streaming (i have unlimited) but seem like they will be reencoding the content to a different format less data better quality such as H264

    • theseanteam

      Unlimited folks got double tethering. And you can still stream in any resolution you want–just turn off Binge on your line.

  • Erik Knudsen

    T-Mobile continues to hate net neutrality

    • Justin Bailey

      Binge On is open to any video streaming service.

      • taxandspend

        And you can disable it. And you don’t pay for it. And the streaming services don’t pay for it.

    • Fabian Cortez

      T-Mobile continues to hate net neutrality

      Oh stop it.

      You’re throwing around buzz words without understanding.

      Do you have any proof that this violates net neutrality?

  • Keep in mind, this is somewhat of a defensive or tit for tat play against ATT and their acquisition of DirecTV. Whereas ATT Wireless subscribers can stream DirecTV content.

  • Android_God

    Who binge watches on a phone or tablet? I LOVE how this isn’t available to those of us on the base tier. That’s real un-carrier. And their TOTAL BULL$HIT excuse as to why they didn’t make this available on the base tier.

    And then saying how they threw this together quickly as an excuse for why YouTube isn’t aboard yet. 10 minutes prior to that he said they were working on this for awhile.

    Despite John’s expert use of smoke and mirrors that was great that they doubled data on all the plans. He’s really a great pitchman.

    • Justin Bailey

      Dude, pay the extra 10 bucks/month and upgrade your plan if you’re that concerned. It’s freaking unlimited streaming.

      And I may be wrong, but the plan you’re on you’re not actually paying for any data. T-Mobile is giving you that gig or two out of the goodness of their hearts.

      Also, getting Youtube included is on Youtube. They have to be willing to work with T-Mobile to get their videos compressed.

      • Android_God

        Dude, like why would I pay $120 a year more to enjoy gimped quality videos? Dude!! This is very un un-carrier to not give this to the base tier. He’s a pitchman and a smoke and mirrors pro!

        • Justin Bailey

          Why would you pay more? To get the perk you want. It’s a simple answer.

          Don’t want to pay to get up to the qualifying data threshold? Don’t complain.

        • Android_God

          Dude stop drinking the Kool-Aid! This is very un un-carrier to not extend this to the base tier.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Dude stop drinking the Kool-Aid! This is very un un-carrier to not extend this to the base tier.

          Thus making it carrier.

          I guess you expect something for nothing; stop being cheap.

          But if it’s very “un un-carrier,” thus making it carrier, then maybe you should vote with your wallet and head over to one of the other three carriers that provide you with “better” benefits.

        • theseanteam

          Seems ironic that the “Android God” is on the base tier.

    • Logan S

      Total bull$hit for what? They didn’t have to make it available at all.

      • Fabian Cortez

        Exactly.

    • Fabian Cortez

      Unlimited data plan users can tether using these services for free without exhausting their tethering allotment.

      So that means you can tether to your laptop or smart TV or Apple TV/Roku/Chromecast, etc. without it counting against your tethering allotment. Provided you’re using these [growing] services.

  • Logan S

    Wait, no p()rn binging?

    • Justin Bailey

      They said at the event that porn services would be included. They just have to meet the network requirements.

    • Alex Wagner

      As Justin said, Legere said that they’d be willing to include any services that are legal and meet the technical requirements of Binge On.

  • Steve Park

    Hard to believe that it includes Direct TV and not DISH network. Dish Anywhere and my Hopper DVR (Sling) work great with mobile except my LG-G4 it crashes on launch, but “their working on it”

    • kgraham182

      It includes DirecTV cause it’s own by AT&T and Go90 cause it’s own by Verizon.

  • Jason

    Im just not that excited over this. I may not be in the mainstream demographic who doesnt care as much, but I just dont want to be stuck with 480P content being run through a post process for like my netflix movies. The whole idea that we should even be altering content for a cell phone is just against everything uncarrier. Content should not be touched and thee kinds of schemes should be frowned upon

    • Justin Bailey

      You can turn it off.

      • Fabian Cortez

        That’s the best way to reply to Jason moving forward: You. Can. Turn. It. Off.

    • Jimmy James

      It reduces network traffic and 480p looks good on a 5″ screen.

      • Jason

        No it doesnt ‘look good’ on a 5 inch screen. I mean especially ones with 1080P or 2K screens which is most of them these days. I notice a dramatic difference on my S5 on youtubd between 480P and 1080P. Its laughable to say with such high resolutions that there isnt a difference

        • Justin Bailey

          They’re not forcing you to watch at 480p. They’re just saying if you do, it won’t use your data.

          You. Can. Turn. It. Off.

        • Jason

          That is beyond the salient point. They shouldnt even be offering these types of methods for altering internet content. Content is not supposed to be altered, that is a fundamental aspect of any uncarrier modern strategy. It smells like all of the garbage the old guard used to do.

        • Adrayven

          You. Can. Turn. It. Off.

        • Bailey

          Lol.. (I couldn’t resist)

        • Justin Bailey

          So let’s just lay this out.

          To get the unlimited streaming:

          1. The content provider is giving the okay for the content to be altered.

          2. The network is providing the means for the content to be altered.

          3. The end user is providing the “okay” for the content to be altered.

          If at any point any of those three, the content provider, the end users, or the network don’t want the content altered, they can turn it off in 2 seconds. I’m failing to see the egregious transgression here.

        • taxandspend

          “Content is not supposed to be altered”

          Netflix allows you to do that and has for a long time. Go in to your account, and you can select a lower quality stream so that you don’t exceed your Comcast monthly allowance.

          T-Mobile will allow you to do the same. You can enable a lower quality stream on services that can provide one, and it won’t count at all.

        • James Sisay

          EXACTLY! people need to quit bitchin and just be thankful like sheesh!

        • Fabian Cortez

          That is beyond the salient point. They shouldnt even be offering these types of methods for altering internet content. Content is not supposed to be altered, that is a fundamental aspect of any uncarrier modern strategy. It smells like all of the garbage the old guard used to do.

          Sure. Let’s not offer free choice.

        • theseanteam

          The thing is, they aren’t forcing it on any content provider. Netflix, HBO, etc are all AGREEING to this. Uncarrier X really seems like win-win-win, with the content providers, the carrier and most importantly the consumer all benefiting!

        • Jimmy James

          I have an S6 with 5.1 screen, and it isn’t a big deal. Netflix super compresses their vids anyway on mobile and don’t give you a setting to change it. I will use it to help out the network.

      • Fabian Cortez

        Not to mention that it’s at least 480p quality. Or like T-Mobile’s website states: 480p+

    • theseanteam

      Turn it off. Freedom of choice. They aren’t shoving it down your throat.

  • AdamBath

    At this point, why not just bring back truly unlimited, with no throttling? Eventually they’ll Uncarrier it so much they’re right back where they started. It’s getting absurd…

    • Rene Shabastari

      I think this trickle unlocking of unlimited data services is for hype, marketing and to get around gray area and illegal sources of downloading/streaming. They are basically giving us unlimited data while safe guarding against network abuse and illegal activities

      • Adrayven

        Like torrenting.. yeah..

    • Mircury119

      I don’t know about you, but I don’t want my neighbor downloading 300GB of stuff because they’re to cheap to get a home internet connection while I’m trying to do work. Believe me, people abuse it and those small groups of people make it worse for all of us.

      • Jimmy James

        Yes. I use 25GBs a month. Sometimes streaming 1080p YouTube and Hulu. I am the abuser, as the average according to stats is around 3.

    • Jason

      I agree. It is getting overly overly complex. The data bucket tiers and now having to decide whether to turn on or off sub par video quality.

      • Justin Bailey

        Verizon has some new simplicity you can check out.

        Small, medium, large, xlarge – no perks, no complexity. Check it out.

        • Adrayven

          Yup, you can spend as MUCH as you want too! :p LOL

        • DKBNYC

          10 GB $180.

        • theseanteam

          Check out the overages while you are at it…

    • Fabian Cortez

      T-Mobile doesn’t throttle on their unlimited plans.

      • T Redd

        You dont get slowed down after 21gbs?

        • Fabian Cortez

          You dont get slowed down after 21gbs?

          No, you don’t.

          *pay close attention to your blanket statement before you proceed.*

        • T Redd

          Yeah i do. If the area is congested supposedly.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Yeah i do. If the area is congested supposedly.

          So because you get slowed down that means it must happen to everyone then? So that 2 TB of tethering must have been a fluke.

          What you’re experiencing is deprioritization due to site congestion and not necessarily area congestion. It is also not “throttling.” And if you think that other users without unlimited data plans on T-Mobile are also not experiencing a slowdown versus what they’d get during no congestion, then you’d be mistaken.

          It’s just that as an unlimited data user, you have the tendency to use more data for much longer. Meanwhile, those without unlimited high speed data would be more inclined to use data for a shorter period of time. So they are in turn put ahead of you in the line so access their little bit of data since it is expected to be quicker and less than what you would request/use.

          Think of it like a highway with emergency lanes and emergency vehicles receiving priority over normal vehicle traffic.

          Throttling would be a DUI checkpoint at a certain block of time (after a certain data threshold until the end of the month for data).

        • T Redd

          Everyone? I dont know. Thats why i asked. When i hit 21gb my speeds are almost unusbleno matter what time.until a new billing cyle. Unless my entire city is congested. thats why i said throttled. As for everyone else i dont know. There’s been quit a few people on this thats been experiencing the same as me.

        • T Redd

          Everyone else? Never said that.. thats why I asked . There’s been quit a few people on this site thats been experiencing this.. i said throttled because my speeds are much unusable until the next billing cycle. I average around 35gb.

  • Steve

    I’m looking forward to streaming MLB AtBat Premium next season. I do a lot of driving and the option to have it available outside of the confines of my home is a great option. I would have done it this season had I not had the same fear John mentioned in the webcast of going over my data allotment and being relegated to lower bandwidth (or on the other carriers, Overages!)

    • why is MLB included here but not in the unlimited audio streaming ? or is it… did i miss when they added it

  • pengko

    For those that says its an extra 10 bucks for the 6gb…. WRONG!!!

    How has Simple Choice changed?

    We’ve doubled the high-speed data included in our base plan at no extra cost for new activations or migrations starting 11/15. We’ve also doubled our 4G LTE data tiers so now you can add 4GB of 4G LTE data for only $15/mo. And with Family Match, families save even more when they add the same amount of 4G LTE data, doubling their LTE at no extra cost which is up to 4 times the data you would get with ATT & Verizon for the same price or less. No sharing required!

    And for a limited time, get the 4th line FREE.

    • pengko

      those that are 3gb+ will be able to enjoy the streaming freedom…

      • pengko

        correction:

        For customers with 6GB or more, you also get Data Stash included and unlimited video streaming from your favorite streaming services without ever using your high-speed data.

        t-mobile livesteam gave some confusion info about 3gb+ people being able to take advantage of that streaming freedom.

  • Jason

    Colluding with content providers to enable an acceptable lower quality standard for mobile devices is a horrible can of worms to open. This is just a travesty. Theyve basically legitmized the enabling of content providers to offer a reduced quality of service on mobile devices that will be quasi accepted as a norm. Its just a nightmare that is against every spirit of net neutrality. Now all the mobile carriers will likely join in and we’ll have a two tiered system for eternity. Just stupidity

    • taxandspend

      “Its just a nightmare that is against every spirit of net neutrality.”

      No it’s not. It’s your option to turn it on or off.

      • Jason

        It is bigger than a frickin switch ok? You have to think about this in a macro sense. When you get a broad majority of mobile users who just have this kind of reduced quality sh- enabled as a default on their mobile devices, you create a broad market of people who think the reduced quality and carrier manipulation is NORMAL. It is exactly the kind of content stiflig that net neutrality was intended to stop in spirit.

        • Justin Bailey

          I encourage you to show your disgust by disabling this option and freeing up the network for the rest of us after you reach your data limit.

        • Jason

          No what I intend to do is larger in scope. What we need to do is lobby the FCC to put an end to these content reducing schemes by carriers from being offered at all. And with the leaning that the FCC has now, it can be convinced.

        • taxandspend

          “What we need to do is lobby the FCC to put an end to these content reducing schemes”

          Have you noticed that you can go in to your Google Play music app, or the Amazon music app, or Pandora, etc and tell it to stream at a lower quality? Are you advocating forcing everyone to stream at a maximum bitrate?

        • Justin Bailey

          You know it’s funny, I’d probably agree with you if the content being tampered with were editorial at all.

          And I’d certainly agree with you if T-Mobile had announced that all video would be compressed, whether the user liked it or not.

          But that’s not what’s happening. Instead, T-Mobile is offering customers the choice of how to watch. They can continue to watch the 720 or 1080 videos and not see a change in their experience at all, except that they’ll have more data.

          Or they can choose to see it at a reduced quality, just like the currently can on desktop, and watch as much of it as they want.

          All this does is offer consumers an option. It’s a fantastic deal.

        • theseanteam

          If your idea was truly to consumer friendly, don’t you think more people would be supporting you?

        • taxandspend

          “You have to think about this in a macro sense.”

          Did you feel the same way about Apple when they introduced the iPod? So you didn’t need to buy CD’s any more? Because those compressed audio files are far lower quality than the CD was.

          And what about Netflix when you could buy the BluRay?

          “It is exactly the kind of content stiflig that net neutrality was intended to stop in spirit.”

          No it wasn’t. It was to stop “pay to play”.

        • Rupesh

          I think you got the meaning of net neutrality partially incorrect. You are right in that carrier manipulation should not be there. When ISP’s monetize channels for the select few and these would be the content providers who are willing to pay money to the ISPs so their content can reach the end users, that is fundamentally wrong. NN is about keeping consumers at the center and ensuring that end consumers get all data in an open fashion. When there is no money being exchanged here it’s not NN. Secondly T-mo is not stopping any other content provider from joining this service. So it’s not really an anti-NN. Thirdly, reduced quality (480P) could be an issue now but I think they mentioned that with time they will plan on increasing the quality. But for the majority users 480P will be sufficient (of course I am not talking about the QHD devices or the 4k device)..

    • Justin Bailey

      So by this logic, it’s wrong for Netflix to offer you the ability to toggle the quality of the video you’re watching on desktop. Because it sets up a two tier system.

      In spite of the fact that you can control what quality you see.

  • Nate

    I think the deal is pretty cool. I can’t make use of it as I already have the Unlimited Data without throttling but it might be nice to step down to if I need to shave a few bucks off the bill. Pretty cool I say.

    • zOMGLOLROFLMAOz

      But if you want back in on unlimited, it’ll be $95 to get back on the train.

  • emcdonald75

    Wouldn’t Binge On just push many people to the unlimited data plan, once they notice that 480p quality looks awful on a 1080p or 2K screen? I like the idea of Binge On but it is kind of hard to go back to a lower screen quality since I have had the unlimited data plan for years. I really like the bump up of tethering data from 7GB-14GB.

    • Justin Bailey

      People can turn it off and their experience will be exactly as it is now, except they’ll have more data.

    • Fabian Cortez

      It’s at least 480p.

      Unlike Sprint that wanted to limit video to 600 kbps.

      • emcdonald75

        I want T-Mobile to find ways to push people to higher plans if people feel they are getting what they paid for and T-Mobile can increase their profits. T-Mobile should find more ways to make more money. I think it is the only company that deserves to be Number 1, once they can fill in the coverage gaps, no other company will come close to this leave of value.

        • Justin Bailey

          The huge influx of new customers, especially post-paid customers, will increase their profits.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Also adding in the extra $10 a month for 3 GB to participate in Binge On.

        • Chadd

          So what if I have the simple choice family plan where all my lines have 10GB each and data stash…is that plan staying the same price and will I be eligible for binge on?

        • Fabian Cortez

          I don’t know.

  • tranceformer978

    I’m going to turn it off until the start of next year when my Data Stash promo ends.

  • taxandspend

    What about that link says that it’s not true?

  • mingkee

    How about those who have $10 5GB Data Match Tablet plan?

  • Irfan

    tricks and tips are every where because this industry is like this …

    Question on T-Mobile Page :What happens when I run out of high-speed data?
    Answer : Because video streams free from your
    favorite video streaming services and almost all other video streaming
    is optimized so you can watch 3 times more video with your data plan, we
    think it will be hard to run out of data. But if you do, you will first
    draw from your Data Stash. If you exhaust your Data Stash you’ll never
    get hit by an overage. EVER!

    they says your internet will optimize mean this will blocked your internet and all packets will move forward to your video streaming , other hand if you hit your data limit so will jumped to 2G network speed and multiply by 3 what u will get .. i don’t think so u can run video streaming once you hit your data limit .. they are tricky ..
    one hand this binge thing will not touch any data other hand it will optimize your data to stream better video , 3rds once you hit your data limit you can get 2gX3X speed …
    drama ?

    • Justin Bailey

      My understanding is that even after you hit your data limit, you’ll still be able to stream video from the 24 services.

      • Fabian Cortez

        Correct.

        Just like music freedom.

      • Craig

        The fine print at the bottom of the tmo page sounds like it doesn’t agree: (note, it says “all usage slowed to up to 2G…”)

        Video streaming from included services does not count toward full-speed data allotment on our network. Third party content and subscription charges may apply. Once high-speed data allotment is reached, all usage slowed to up to 2G speeds until end of bill cycle

  • tmolover31

    Yes! Soon we’ll be able to say goodbye to our local cable monopolies (or possibly former monopolies) and continue streaming. It may not be HD, but it might still be enough for us to get rid of cable completely.

    • Jwajid

      And that is the true goal

  • mO

    It all sounds good but I wonder just how much it will be used. I’m not a data hog and n fact I use less than 2gb per month. I am an avid streamer and use my home or office to connect via wifi to the Internet to watch movies, you tube or other vids. I’m using Roku on one TV and Chromcast on the other. I tried to use the phone on the TMO network and it’s pretty shitty quality. Lots of folks are concerned that this will cogent the TMO network and honestly I have the same concern. Nice gesture but the network is fairly fragile in certain parts of my neighborhooD. Sometimes call quality is pretty shitty and data is very slow almost to the point that it’s painful to use. Can’t imagine that streaming on a wholesale basis is going to improve call quality. Wonder how long it will take for th network o come to a complete stand still? Interesting John went on a rant about some users consuming excessive amounts of data and how this slows the network down. One has to assume that some TMO customers will be watching some vids 24/7 just because they can. Won’t take many in your cell tower area to seriously slow or gum up the entire network. Thanks John.

  • Thatguy

    Comcast will not be please!

  • Fabian Cortez

    Nothing about the sh!t network? So god damn slow

    You are incorrect.

    T-Mobile is the nation’s fastest LTE network and they are currently at 302 million POPs of LTE.

    • Chadd

      This may be true in certain areas, but I can have 4 or 5 bars of LTE and I literally get .2 Mbps download when doing a speedtest, and I have plenty of screenshots to prove it. It’s so bad sometimes that it can’t even complete the upload speedtest and just loses connection altogether

      • Crucifixion Cruxi

        Chadd I feel your pain. No idea what fabian is smoking

        • Fabian Cortez

          Sure.

          Because congestion doesn’t exist so I must naturally be smoking something.

      • Fabian Cortez

        Read above.

    • Crucifixion Cruxi

      Yea say that to my .1 mbps download speed on my speedtest app

      • Fabian Cortez

        You are being depeiortized.

        If you think AT&T, Sprint, and/or Verizon don’t experience the same speeds then you have unrealistic expectations of wireless.

  • Bryck

    My Gosh!!!! So many people complaining about this and that. HELLOOO, THIS IS FREE!!! Enjoy it. And the doubling of Data bucket it’s a big win.

  • walt

    where’s the amazon prime and youtube love?

    • Justin Bailey

      It’s on those companies to work with T-Mobile.

      • Jwajid

        Thank you for being smart. Tmobile has proved they want every one to watch what they want without using their data. Youtube and amazon has to cooperate with T-mobile.

  • TMOGUY

    Did anyone catch that unlimited data is going up from $30/month to $45/month?

    • Guest

      huh? link please

    • Fabian Cortez

      It looks like everything went up.

      $10 -> $15
      $20 -> $30
      $30 -> $45

      • Justin Bailey

        link?

      • Tinger12

        It looks to be an increase on the “Doubling for 25% less”

        $10 -> 3GB now $15 -> 6GB ($2.50/GB new vs $3.00/GB old)
        $20 -> 5GB now $30 -> 10GB ($3.00/GB new vs $4.00/GB old)
        $30 -> Unlimited(7GB tether) now $45 -> unlimited(14GB tether). ($3.21/GB tether new vs $4.29/GB tether old) – Only change between old and new pricing is the tethering amount on Unlimited.

        Seems like playing numbers to increase customer bill and feeding it as a doubling of the data.

        I would guess all current customers keep their price but new ones don’t

        • Bklynman

          If I am reading this right I can now get 6 gb for only $5.00 a month? What about hotspot service any thing change with that?

        • Tinger12

          No you get 6GB per month for $15 as an add on to your Simple Choice service (or $30 for 10GB or $45 for Unlimited on your PHONE).

          Nothing with prepaid or Hotspot data has changed. This is all for PHONE Simple Choice postpaid plans.

        • Bklynman

          Sorry my bad,I meant to write only $5.00 more a month. But thank you. Any information on hot spot service increase?

        • Fabian Cortez

          Definitely noteworthy. It’s rather clear that they’re expecting a significant increase in subscribers adds due to this announcement so why not maximize revenue?

          At least the price per GB has dropped and the added features have increased.

        • Joe

          I think this is a very calculated move since the Binge On announcement is going to attract A LOT of people. So this move will probably bring a lot of cash in and that way they can improve there network. Also I think because the streaming quality of videos will be 480p it will not have to bad of an effect on the network. All in all I think t-mobile knows what there doing and this is going to benefit both the costumer and t-mobile.

      • Jwajid

        Do not forget family match. Plus 4th line free. SOOOOOO unlimited data not only $30 a month but 4 lines and if everyone has unlimited only pays $180. That is truly unlimited per line (Binge on not needed)

    • Jay Holm

      I don’t know what to say, at least unlimited data is still available, nearly 5 full years since ATT & Vzn did away with it.

  • SFBayAreaWaitingForBand12

    Hoping this won’t affect network performance for less stream-intensive users.

    • Fabian Cortez

      Hoping this won’t affect network performance for less stream-intensive users.

      This is all proprietary optimization.

      They wouldn’t launch something that would cripple their network.

      In fact, it is most likely these “stream-intensive users” that have been bringing some of the network speeds down.

      • SFBayAreaWaitingForBand12

        Proprietary optimization…. a nice nebulous term.

        My concern is that in areas with already spotty Band 4 coverage (and don’t have B12 deployed yet), subscribers are already experiencing throughput issues. Add to this streaming, even through optimization, this could cause issues.

        • SFBayAreaWaitingForBand12

          Band 12 expands coverage radially but can’t match the throughput of band 4. Carrier aggregation may help in areas where it’s enabled.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Proprietary optimization…. a nice nebulous term.

          My concern is that in areas with already spotty Band 4 coverage (and don’t have B12 deployed yet), subscribers are already experiencing throughput issues. Add to this streaming, even through optimization, this could cause issues.

          Exactly. A lot of that would be considered raw data usage. Or like T-Mobile mentioned: wasted data.

          This announcement clearly doubles as network management.

        • SFBayAreaWaitingForBand12

          Network management for a select group of use cases, correct?

        • Fabian Cortez

          Network management for a select group of use cases, correct?

          Isn’t it assumed that video streaming is the most problematic issue with respect to cellular networks?

          It certainly isn’t voice calls, text messaging, web browsing.

        • kenneth arnold

          Actually what it says is it’s gonna limit you to 480p so lots of folks who have been streaming in high quality mode nonstop eating up all the bandwidth will suddenly be using a lot less

        • Fabian Cortez

          Where does it say it is limited to 480p?

          If anything, I read the quality with be 480p+.

  • vinnyjr

    How can anyone complain about these great features. Don’t get it, if you don’t want it you don’t have to use it. No other Carrier has ever given their customers free anything. I am very happy with all the great UnCarrier moves. Music Freedom and now Binge On!!! Thank You T-Mobile, Thank You John Legere.

    • Android_God

      Oh Jesus I just threw up in my mouth

      • Fabian Cortez

        Oh Jesus I just threw up in my mouth

        And had the time to post about it.

        Clean up first will you?

      • Jesus

        It’s ok

        10 hail marys my son

  • Cam Fas

    So are tablets included? It would be nice to get unlimited Netflix on my tablet Id use it much more and are they doubling the data bucket for the tablets too?

    • JBLmobileG1

      I’d like to know this as well.

      • mingkee

        I asked T-Mobile over Twitter and the answer is yes.

        • JBLmobileG1

          Awesome thanks! Now if they can just add YouTube I’d be that much happier. :) Any idea if the older $20 Data plans will have the extra tethering? Like from 5gb to 10gb?

        • mingkee

          I asked but so far I have not heard anything yet. However, since I have Netflix, I can simply play Scandal on Xperia Z Ultra while I can use my phone to do anything else.

  • tony

    i have 50 friends signing to t mobile this month ready to switch from verizon.

    they watch netflix alot , this news is just goldmine.

  • tony

    oh their friends friends whos on sprint is also going to sign up for t mobile, their kids also watches netflix. this annocuement is just the biggest news ever.

  • Pete

    Would be cool if YouTube in the list.

  • tony

    t mobile going to have influx of new customers coming this month gooo t mobile!.

  • alex

    is the tablet $10 5gb plan included in video stream?

    • mingkee

      Yes.

  • theseanteam

    Just curious if you can read… they are opening it up to everyone.

  • Joey

    No youtube?? :/

  • theseanteam

    While Youtube isn’t included today… Google Music wasn’t in Music Freedom from day one and was subsequently added. Would be surprised if Youtube isn’t added eventually.

  • Trevnerdio

    RIP data speeds </3

    • theseanteam

      Have you considered the fact fact that many people will now be streaming lower quality video that might actually reduce load?

      • Trevnerdio

        Ahh, didn’t even see that! Thanks for pointing that out. I hope they don’t enable the “optimization” by default for unlimited customers. I’ll forget that it’s on and I’ll be getting frustrated

        • theseanteam

          I believe it is on by default for everyone–so if you want to fault T-Mobile for that, one could have a point. But other than that, it’s hard to get mad at something that’s given to everyone for free…

        • Trevnerdio

          True that. Wasn’t knocking it at all.

        • justanormalguy13

          Just go to your account online and turn it off. Then you’ll be back to the highest quality.

  • Shaun McNulty

    what about YouTube?

  • ArlenianPropaneMachine

    No WWE Network?

    • donnybee

      I’m hoping this comment was a joke

      Possibly a joke about a joke?

  • nrfitchett4

    I’m guessing all of y’all are for net neutrality and this right here violates it. Amazing how hypocritical people become when they get something for free…

    • Goat

      I believe he mentioned during the event that this was not in violation of Net Neutrality rules.

      • nrfitchett4

        Deciding which data to charge you for is clearly a violation of net neutrality as the data is supposed to all count the same. How is that any different then Comcast offering free streaming of its xfinity service but counting Netflix against your data cap? It’s not, no matter what the “uncarrier” says.

        • Goat

          My previous comment was stating what John Legere said during the event. The FCC has decided to take things such as these on a “case-by-case” basis, so it could go either way. Usually (almost always these days) when Comcast does things it’s not for the benefit of the consumer. It’s a stretch to compare the two.

        • nrfitchett4

          No, you can’t go one way with net neutrality and then say the other way is wrong. Data is data, shouldn’t matter where its going or where it came from. Consumers complained when they weren’t allowed to hotspot on their unlimited data plans because its just data. Just because this version benefits the consumer doesn’t make it any less wrong. Just give everyone unlimited data and be done with it if you are such an uncarrier.

        • Goat

          I’m not an expert in Net Neutrality so I’m not going to try to go into detail any further on something I might not completely understand. I see your point, but I can still see two different outcomes. Since the FCC has decided to look at these on a case-by-case basis, it suggests theirs exceptions to be made.

          That’s my take, anyways. Guess we’ll find out soon!

        • Luis Hotdaddy Vasquez

          If you don’t like it, then go to AT&T!

        • nrfitchett4

          Actually, AT&T violates this as well with free streaming on Beats.

  • guest

    i don’t like it.

    They should make the plans simpler and cheaper.

    All this “free” stuff like Freedom Music and Binge On should be optional. Even the 3 Countries for 1 should be optional.

    In fact they should provide more options for everyone’s tastes and needs. Not everyone listens to music and watches videos on their phones.

    • Cmx

      It’s free so who cares , you don’t have to use it , but you have an option

      • randypower

        The problem is none of this is free. We pay for every bit of it.

        I would rather have a lower bill than so many of these extras that I don’t use.

        And since the announcement goes along with new fine print (new Data Stash cap) and overt price increases, it’s exactly the opposite of what I want.

        This is definitely not free.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Your bill went up?

          I’d like to see where T-Mobile altered the price of your Simple Choice bill.

    • dtam

      it’s not like prices have gone up since they’ve given away all these free things so….

  • Chuck E Cheese

    I just read every posted comment & no one mentioned a very important point hidden in the details regarding BingeOn.

    Ifor you opt in to use BingeOn Data Stash terms change from unlimited data stash to 20gb cap.

    This is a huge deal breaker in my opinion to opting into BingeOn. So “free” comes at a cost not just “reduced” “dvd” quality but at a loss of data stash.

    With so many services missing: amazon, xbox, Google Play youtube, twc, xfinity, abc, nbc, cbs, cw, fox, fx, cnn, usa, tnt, tbs, etc & Data Stash being cripple, you really need to think about if you want to opt into BingeOn

    • justanormalguy13

      You only get to keep it for a year anyways. So if you used absolutely no data on a three gig plan, then you’d store 36 gigs in a year. Sure, you have a little less stored up, but obviously you weren’t using it to begin with anyways. 20 gigs is sufficient in the vast majority of cases.

  • TK – Indy

    What about throttling, oops I mean de-prioritization. Does the video usage still count against that? If so, it is really BingeOn for 23GB or so then ThrottleOn for the month.

    • Crucifixion Cruxi

      It’s throttling. Why do I get slowed down if I pay more and they pay less.

      • Fabian Cortez

        Because you’re here to troll and refuse to understand the difference between throttling and deprioritization.

        But this article has nothing to do with that.