Galaxy S 4 Dev Edition Is Real, Works On T-Mobile LTE For $649

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The Galaxy S 4 dev edition is real, so very real and it’s unlocked on both T-Mobile and AT&T LTE. The developer edition will sell through Google’ sPlay store beginning June 26th with 16GB of memory (expandable through microSD) for $649. The developer edition of the Galaxy S 4 will come bootloader unlocked and sold only through the Google Play store. This is pure stock Android with Galaxy S 4 internals…what more could you want?

While the Nexus 4 was subsidized by Google to allow for the $299 and $349 for the 8GB/16GB sizes, it appears as though Google isn’t subsidizing the Galaxy S 4 dev edition leading to the higher price tag.

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  • http://dualshockers.com Joel Taveras

    Wow. Just Wow. My poor wallet.

    • Legione13

      Don’t worry the price may come down in a few months; right now, they *need* to keep the price point where it is to limit competition with the normal GS4.

      In a few months, when Samsung is pushing out yet another round of phones (they iterate pretty rapidly), I really think they’ll drop the price.

      • bob90210

        The developer edition is only $20 more than the version sold by T-Mobile.

      • http://dualshockers.com Joel Taveras

        By then we’re talking Nexus 5. It’s apparent we haven’t met. Hi, my name is Joel and I’m addicted to shiny new cell phones.

    • Spanky

      Looks like my S3 will be going on eBay next month.

  • impasse

    i can’t believe this is literally the first time anyone’s thought to do this..hope it sells well so others might join in, too!

    • kalel33

      I think this is the testbed by Samsung to see if people really would prefer Vanilla over bloated/feature laden skins. I want to buy one just to help the cause.

      • 21stNow

        I do, too. I have to think about this because I’m not a phone seller. I just got the S4 and still have my SIII. I can’t reasonably justify the new S4 but then again, I’m never reasonable when it comes to phones anyway.

  • sysu3peat

    Now do it for the One

    • kalel33

      That’s on HTC, not Google. Vanilla Android is available for any manufacturer, because it’s open sourced. They just choose whether to come out with a Vanilla phone themselves.

    • jonathan3579

      My biggest concern if anything was done for the One (which it won’t) would be the camera. HTC’s camera software is actually good.

  • Saul Flores

    Holy crap! amazing timing I was just about to go out and buy the S4 then see this. Id much rather wait for stock android version of the S4 without bloatware.

  • minioninnc

    I’ll keep my nexus 4 til the nexus 5 comes.

  • KK093

    Wow! El GOOG just read my mind! I checked out the S4 last week and was thinking what a way to ruin a nice smartphone with bloatware-laden Touchwhiz and T-Mobile crap. But this is just the perfect phone! and no more waiting for Samsung for updates!

  • http://www.youtube.com/#/mrjlwilliams J. Williams

    I’ve got my money ready, now I just have to wait for the big day! lol, glad I got rid of my T-Mobile version of the S4, now I can have good hardware with stock android. Updates directly from Google.

    • Patricia Torres

      The T-mobile S4 isn’t worth it? I’ve been holding out on it cuz honestly it doesn’t have a wow factor to me. So i’ve kept my S3 and am trying to hold out for the Note3

      • niftydl

        The S4 is not a dramatic jump from the S3. You will get some of the S4 TouchWiz features in a software update sometime late (at least they claim so). The S2 to S3 was a bigger jump in performance. The Note 3 will probably be a bigger upgrade and worth the wait, imo.

  • gadget_hero

    I will probably get this. I wonder if it still has the eye tracking and that jazz? My Nexus^4 has crap battery life. I wonder if any other OEMs will do a “Google Edition” (I am looking at you HTC One and Motorola Razr HD Maxx -GSM unlocked)…yes please.

    • kalel33

      It won’t have the eye tracking or any of the other “jazz” that Samsung came up with because it’s Vanilla.

      • gadget_hero

        That is what I figured, not biggie stock android is worth loads more than any “other” features

  • EvilleSV

    Doesn’t this mean that anyone with a TMobile/AT&T GS4 can just unlock the bootloader, root, then convert it to a “Nexus” version? Giving them all the latest OS updates at the same time as Nexus models. If the hardware is the same, well then all the devs now have access to kernel source.

    • kalel33

      I watched it live and they stated it WILL get the updates the same time that Nexus phones get them.

      • EvilleSV

        Not what I meant. I watched it live too. What I’m saying is, if they are going to have identical hardware and are releasing it like a Nexus device, anyone with a TMobile GS4 should be able to root, unlock bootloader, then flash the open source “nexus” image and “boom!” you now have the “developer” edition phone. i.e. and still make monthly payments if you bought one that way. All drivers will be provided to devs. CM/AOKP will be able to update their GS4 ROMS with no worries of not having a driver/whatever. Their beta versions will come out practically at daily driver status. Basically, I’m saying if you already purchased a TMobile GS4 and now wish you had waited on this, don’t worry.

        • kalel33

          You’d have to wait for someone on XDA to post the ROM for you to flash it.

        • EvilleSV

          I’d have to wait like 24 hours tops. Someone with the “Nexus” version of the GS4 would get the update, dump the image, convert it into a flashable zip and you have it. You might actually be able (and quite probably would) get the newest updates before you would if you had the actual Nexus GS4. Given that updates are rolled out in a staggered pattern, you’d have to be pretty lucky to get it the first week even. Someone in the first round of the OTA WILL provide a dump. I’ve seen it time and time again.

        • kalel33

          Nexus owners can download direct from Google the moment it’s released, so you don’t even have to wait for OTA.

        • EvilleSV

          I’ve never seen that with my Nexus. They’ve always come OTA. Never seen a link for them either. Either way, that just further proves my point. If you already bought the Tmobile GS4, you can move to AOSP with no worries.

        • kalel33

          You don’t know how to do it because you’ve never Googled it to find out how to manually do it yourself. It’s extremely easy to do. Yes, you can move to AOSP but yes you have worries. It’s still in the Nightlies faze, not Alpha, not Beta, not RC, and not stable release but Nightlies, which means it has many issues they still need to work out. Nightlies aren’t even recommended by Cyanogenmod for a daily driver. It’s used for people to tell them what issues they are having and they work on them.

          I only run Betas at earliest, because they have the major issues out of the way but there are smaller issues still to be worked on. It takes Cyanogenmod usually 3 months after the Android code is released to get to Beta and months later to get to a stable version.

          So no, you didn’t prove a point at all, unless running pre-Alpha software with major issues is the way you like to roll.

        • EvilleSV

          Apparently you are misreading/not understanding my posts. AOSP (vanilla Android as Google releases) is not released in alpha, beta, RC, or nightly. It’s not even labeled as “Stable”. It’s simply released. Now you seem to be fixating on CM/AOKP references in my posts and interchanging them with AOSP. They aren’t the same thing. CM and AOKP are based off AOSP. Those references are there to argue the added benefit of releasing an AOSP (Nexus if-you-will) GS4. The main argument/point is that you can have the SAME thing as what is described in the article above (an AOSP GS4) even if you purchased the Touchwizzed version from TMobile. And it will be simple. Not only have I made my point, YOU made my point when you said you could download the latest “release” straight from Google day 1. My intial post was a rhetorical question, maybe that wasn’t so easy to gleen. I knew exactly what it meant. If you can’t understand/follow that, I’m sorry.

    • http://www.jeffkibuule.com Jeff Kibuule

      AT&T GS4 can’t have it’s bootloader unlocked.

      • EvilleSV

        Yeah, I read that after posting. Sucks for them. But the Tmobile GS4 should be okay.

      • Mike

        The AT&T GS4 has already be hacked and bootloader unlocked by Dan Rosenberg. Proof was posted the day after the announcement of CyanogenMod saying it was unlockable.

  • Steve

    Great price for those of us with the cash. $649 is pocket change.

    • http://about.me/daylondeon Deacon

      lol i think in most of the general public $649 is NOT pocket change

      • Alan713

        although this very general public pays way more to the carriers like ATT or VZ for getting phones on contracts

        • http://about.me/daylondeon Deacon

          lol true .. you’d think they were smarter .. but as in most cases, an upfront cost seems worse than the raping they take over a contract period.

    • tirtawn

      Well, its definitely not a pocket change for me. So I will have to pass (eventhough desperately want this).

      • marbo100

        All it means to me is that I will have to finance the phone with my credit card instead of thru T-mobile.

        • Paddy_Tanninger_Caddy_Manager

          except CC finance costs money.

        • marbo100

          If I pay it off in 3 months, finance charges will be negligible.

      • Paddy_Tanninger_Caddy_Manager

        almost same price as a network locked S4…so yeah, great price indeed. One way or another, when you buy a S4, you’re paying $630 for the phone. It’s just whether you’re front loading it or paying installments.

    • Paddy_Tanninger_Caddy_Manager

      spare some change for the poor sir?

  • CJ

    This is awesome!

  • JB

    Good thing I decided to wait. I’d rather have that one! Of course if they are running off the identical hardware, then I’m sure it would be easy enough to just flash dev edition ROM on the regular S4s…

    Though this new S4 almost totally explains why that recent update included root restrictions and most likely why ATT’s S4 shipped bootloader locked…

    • Mark Cardona

      Got point. Hopefully devs find a way around it. I work at tmobile and it would be nice to have the payment option I have through work to get the one out now and flash it later.

      • http://pharaohtechblog.blogspot.com/ Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)

        The hardware is only identical to T-Mobile’s model, since T-Mobile’s model supports both AT&T and T-Mobile WCDMA and LTE networks.

  • http://twitter.com/FreydNot FreydNot

    What more could I want? How about Wi-Fi calling support on stock Google software? For me that was the biggest down side of the nexus 4.

    • Brian Bloom

      Ditto. I work in a basement with little signal, but plentiful wifi. Gimme wi-fi calling with vanilla Android and you have my next phone…

      • Big Mama

        Why not fwd your mobile to your Google Voice number, and you can always call out on Google Voice, using WiFi.

    • PiCASSiMO

      Yeah… that’s what my father in law is complaining about when he’s at his cottage in Michigan. It’s barely a EDGE speeds and sometimes NO SERVICE. He would love to tap into his cable internet wifi and make calls with his Nexus 4.

    • kalel33

      Find the Wifi calling APN and sideload it. That’s what I did on two of my phones.

    • niftydl

      Wi-Fi calling in the current form requires custom low-level kernel modification as well as loading of proprietary 3rd party modules from Kineto. There is no reason for Google to allow this on stock firmware.

      • kalel33

        Then how does my WIFI calling app that I sideloaded work then? I was there when they stated the app would no longer work but guess what, it never quit working, even running on Custom ROMs.

  • Ronnie Miller

    Damn would be awesome to get, but too bad there isn’t any installments. LOL. I got school tuition due next month.

  • VG

    Will it support T-Mo HSPA+ bands? If not, don’t see too many T-Mo customers getting this until LTE has been significantly deployed.

    • rubi76

      Obviously.

  • Big Mama

    All those complaining about limited internal memory are rejoicing with all the bloatwareless space that will be available on thia S4.

    • Mark Cardona

      Did they mention how much free space is available now without touchwiz

      • kalel33

        They never give out information like that in conferences. They don’t even do that in spec sheets. You only find out from tech sites or from forums.

      • custom1

        We can ask David when he gets his new vanilla S4 ;)

    • New_Guy

      That and people who are calling S4 features “gimmicks” can finally give themselves a reason to shut up and pay attention. This is an Android Takeover!!!

  • Don Quixote

    This is what G2x should’ve been.

    • D6E

      Don’t you EVER compare the S4 to the G2x. I’ve canceled your internet service effective immediately.

      • Noel

        LOL

  • drivethruboy168

    I’m in!

  • Josue

    shut up and take my money!!!

    • Paddy_Tanninger_Caddy_Manager

      you get an up for this.

  • Manny

    Lol at all the people who said never. “Started at the bottom now we here”

  • IRIE4IPIEIR

    Goodbye note 2, you been forcing touchwiz on me because CM10 based ROMS suck on you

  • me

    That’s cool, the only reason I don’t like samsung Android phones is I can’t stand the touchwiz interface. Feels like a cheap version of Android. This stock version looks like it could be the real deal. Will wait to see if they announce a new Nexus device for this fall.

    • Alan713

      new nexus will be about the same or similar specs as S4. so this s4 Goog edition is in a sense next Nexus!

  • Paddy_Tanninger_Caddy_Manager

    here’s my credit card, (Fanfare) da da da da da da… CHARGE IT!

  • PiCASSiMO

    Now why didn’t HTC did the same for the developers edition of the One?

    Specs:
    HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
    GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
    LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)

    LTE Band 4 is not supported, nor is the 1700/2100 HSPA+. Sure, it can run on some refarmed 1900/2100 bands, but that’s like buying an AT&T phone and hoping it will work in your neighbourhood. You’ll mostly be using Edge speeds with this device.

    • PiCASSiMO
      • Guest

        It says right there on the page that it supports AWS which is 1700/2100.

        • PiCASSiMO

          Nope…. you don’t have the lucky 1700/2100 in WCDMA or LTE formats.

          HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
          GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
          LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)

        • Alex Zapata

          Again, you have said it yourself. LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900. AWS is defined as 1700/2100. HSPA isn’t supported on those bands but LTE is.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Wireless_Services

        • PiCASSiMO

          Look above in the comments here and find the user “ssl48″. He was the unfortunate one to buy the DE HTC One and is stuck with Edge speeds, regardless of the 1700/2100 AWS bands that you continue to preach about. They simply don’t exist in this htc phone when buying the developer edition.

        • Alex Zapata

          AWS = band 4. Look it up.

        • http://www.jeffkibuule.com Jeff Kibuule

          AWS HSPA+ and AWS LTE are different things.

        • Alex Zapata

          I’m well aware of this, but he asked why it wasn’t AWS LTE capable.

        • PiCASSiMO

          Alex… Please find me someone else with a developer edition of the HTC One who is running on tmobile 1700/2100, forgetting what you think AWS means.

          EVERYONE on XDA has Edge speeds with T-Mobile unless they are in a reformed 1900 market.

        • Alex Zapata

          http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2254005

          They have stated that it has AWS support for LTE only. There is no AWS HSPA capability unless you flash a T-Mobile ROM and even then it is not guaranteed. The reason few, if any people are seeing AWS service on that device is because T-Mobile’s LTE network is still very tiny. This does not contradict the manufacturer’s claims nor any of my previous statements.

        • Alex Zapata

          Everyone? You clearly didn’t look very hard. AWS LTE on a one developer edition:

          http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2247827

    • Guest

      Band 4 = AWS = 1700/2100 MHz.

      • jonathan3579

        I was going to point that out but you did it first. Lol.

        • skinnemuva

          I think he is listing the HTC One dev edition specs, showing how they did it wrong.

        • PiCASSiMO

          Are the actual hardware specs different then what the page says? Can I get 1700/2100 HSPA/WCDMA and 1700/2100 LTE AWS on the Developer Edition HTC One?

        • Taron19119

          No

        • PiCASSiMO

          Looking a little deeper… rumours have it that we can probably re-flash with T-Mobile radio frequencies:

          http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2247171

        • skinnemuva

          Not as far as I know. The HTC One Developer Edition only works on AT&T’s LTE network.

        • Noel

          One thing that is killing HTC and will likely kill it is their penchant attachment to EXCLUSIVE DEALS…even with a developer edition HTC ONE they had to somewhat bow to AT&T push for exclusivity…just to have some kind of advantage on Tmo when it come to devices. I know they have improved somewhat when compared to the HTC ONE X debacle from last year which was only on Att. But why would they not take a deal to have a HTC ONE GE, if just to blunt any advantage Samsung is trying to get over them when it comes to their two marquee devices. Unless they will be the OEM for the new Nexus…it will be foolish not to take a deal to do a HTC ONE GE. They have to do what ever takes to move as many HTC ONE devices to the hands of the masses, be it ones with Sense or those with pure JB. It doesn’t take smarts to figure that out…mostly if you had a rough year with sinking revenue.

    • kalel33

      They stated in the presentation that it will work for T-mobile’s LTE. Where did you get the specs from? Multiple tech sites state the same thing.

      • PiCASSiMO

        See my source below… HTC page.

        • kalel33

          Ah, you’re talking about the HTC One specs. I thought you were bringing up specs for the S4, by trying to diminish the S4 with Vanilla Android. Now I get it.

        • PiCASSiMO

          All good…

      • PiCASSiMO

        Spec’s are directly from HTC.

  • Luis Rodriguez

    Can someone post a link to the wallpaper on that GS4..

    Thanks

  • jozefd14

    I really really hope T-Mobile AND AT&T will sell it in store.. especially T-Mobile so it’ll be much easier to pay it monthly..

    • kalel33

      Just hope they don’t jack up the price by $100, like they did with the Nexus 4.

      • mikey

        They jacked up the nexus price because it was subsidized by Google in the play store, which made it cheaper thru Google. This phone is not subsidized by Google so the same price Google has it for will most likely be the same for tmobile when they get it.

        • kalel33

          So why couldn’t T-mobile just buy them from Google for that price and resell them for the same price. They’re just greedy and making a hefty amount off of the phone. I seen how much they actually paid for the phones when I was there. Iphones probably cost what they sell them for, because that’s how Apple does things, but the Android phones were much cheaper. I bought my HTC Amaze from them “at cost” for $218 in March of last year and any of the $600 phones actually cost them a little over $400.

        • kev2684

          did you even read the tweet? *Exclusively* for Play Store. even if T-Mobile buys it from Google for the same price and sell it at the same price, what’s in it for them? who’s paying for freight/shipping? why would they waste man hours and why will they stock it in their stores or warehouses if they don’t get anything from it?

        • Jose Hernandez

          OMG, are you serious? Google and LG have an agreement on the Nexus and Google is selling them just about at cost because they Want To!
          Why on the heck would T-Mobile go out of their way to loose money? You do know that T-Mobile is in business to MAKE money. Right? and why are you complaining about this? just buy the Nexus phone from Google and be done with it. You don’t have to get the GS4 GE. Stop with the crying.

        • kalel33

          Was reading your post but once I seen you type “loose” for the word “lose” I quit reading. Don’t worry, you’re not the only person on the web that makes that simple mistake.

  • 87678sdfs

    take my money now! *throwing Bens at the screen*

    • New_Guy

      Throwing beans??? Hahaha, hilarious :D.

      • JaneD29

        he’s referring to $100 bills (Benjamin Franklin). Oh well, even dumb people have the right to breathe and post (and reproduce)

        • New_Guy

          You’re really not dumb enough not to see that I misread that are you… my fallacy was an accident, what’s your excuse? …

  • Alan713

    i like to have stock, but wish it was 549 or 599 at least! ) but it’s great to have this option available. Hope HTC can do the same with the One

    • Dakota

      Wonder if this means we wont get a new Nexus in the FALL? The price is too high for my tastes. I assumed part of the higher price of the Samsung GS4 was all those cool (although some gimmicky) features…and now none of them will be in this phone? Im a bit confused. I rather then have Google develop their own exterior and bring the price down $300

      • http://www.jeffkibuule.com Jeff Kibuule

        This isn’t a Nexus.

  • http://benpike.net/ Ben Pike

    Currently no plans for it to be available on EIP: https://twitter.com/TMobileHelp/status/334762229264175106

    • thepanttherlady

      “The developer edition of the Galaxy S 4 will come bootloader unlocked and sold only through the Google Play store.”

      • http://benpike.net/ Ben Pike

        Ahhhh thank you.

        • thepanttherlady

          You’re welcome. :)

  • frigadroid

    Great no more shity updates like the turd spamdung dropped yesterday on us galaxy3 owners.

    • TechHog

      The T-Mobile GS3 4.2 update is bad?

      • Alex Zapata

        The T-Mobile OTA update for the GS3 was 4.1.2

        • tonkotsu

          doesn’t make a diff

      • frigadroid

        Yep, they added some serious bugs to the messaging & keyboard. When I go to text I have a 5 second lag for the the keyboard :( other people are complaining about the gallery problems too. I’m not the only one it’s blowing up on the net.

        • Eugene

          No problems so far on my S3. Might be because I use fb chat heads as my main texting app but I see no bugs. Not sure what gallery bug people are referring to.

        • Jose Hernandez

          I also have noticed no bugs at all after my update.

        • frigadroid

          it seems to be somethig wrong with Swype on both my galaxies kind of like it reverted back to before the minor bug fix update. I’ll give them credit for trying.

    • Verhouze

      I have no bugs. Maybe you will have to do a reset on your “shity turd spamdung” phone.

      • frigadroid

        dude it’s a “cracked screen shity turd Spamdung” I have to do resets every other day! Come on man give me a break with your basic flow chart assessment. I want to get down to the root of the problem. I know your next answer is just root and no problem. It’s in the bloatware probably Swype, I’ve reset and removed my 10 apps.

  • guidomus_maximus

    Why would a real developer want to buy this?
    (or does it come with a cool “I’m a Developer!” sticker to put on my tuner?)

    • kalel33

      It’s not a dev phone.

  • rob

    There is now no excuse from Google to not work with HTC on at least something similar.

    • tonkotsu

      but what about HTC wanting to work with google?

    • kalel33

      HTC doesn’t need Google. You want to gripe at someone then gripe at HTC. They have the code for Vanilla Android for free. They don’t have to ask Google for it. Any manufacturer can make a phone like the new S4 but they want to put their bloated skin on it to make them look different.

  • Ashley

    Notice it said latest software. That sounds like a hint at the leaks of 4.3 to me. I would venture to say it will keep up with nexus on updates as they come out too.

    • Dakota

      Does it mean you get the exterior of the SG4 but the interior of a Nexus? yet paying double the price of the Nexus 4 (although it doesnt have LTE which is a big problem for people shopping for new phones); yet youre paying over $600 but you wont get any of the enhanced SG4 features? Im not sure I like that. The benefit fo the NExus for me besides the pure Android was the price.

      • zifnab

        What is the “inferior of a Nexus”? I see bloated software that makes the latest hardware lag inferior. Personally there’s no single feature in the S4 that can convince me its better than having pure, lag free Android.

    • Spanky

      Google and Samsung have already confirmed that it will receive the latest updates at the same time as the Nexus devices, directly from Google.

  • Dakota

    Does this mean it doesnt have any of the advertised S4 features? So its like a Nexus device housed in the S4 casing but costing double the price of a traditional Nexus and yet paying for the GS4 features you arent going to get? Will the same device work on both ATT and Tmobile?

  • Dakota

    The average consumer – who doesnt visit these blogs and who isnt a developer – will not care much. You’re going to have to put up over $600 up front and youre not going to get all those SG4 features youre seeing in the commercials.

    • kalel33

      They will care when the phone screams in speed, instead of being bogged down by all those extra features that’s on the S4.

  • Richard Yarrell

    This blows away the Nexus 4 so easily it’s comical. Better hardware, better battery life, and better storage options 12gb of internal and 59.47gb sdcard expansion.

    At a premium price many people will purchase this definitely. The Nexus 5 won’t even offer this when that’s released.

    The fact that Samsung and Google worked on something like this says alot in my mind. There could be a future here for many years to come including all manufacturers

    • squiddy20

      A $600+ phone that was essentially released just a month ago “blowing away” a $400 phone released 6 months ago? NO WAY! /s

      “The Nexus 5 won’t even offer this when that’s released.” Ya think? Google has shown time and time again that it doesn’t care about the best hardware or what device has higher specs. It’s looking to get its products (and services) into as many hands as possible. That means selling devices at or just barely above cost. Try using that pitiful excuse for a brain and think once in awhile.

      • Richard Yarrell

        Good old squiddy pissingon himselfseeing all these wonderful device’s arrive on Tmobile. Rest assured that crappy Galaxy Nexus on Sprint is so pitiful and useless it’s just comical. Since you can’t afford a new device on Sprint it’s a very bad day for you.

        • squiddy20

          Wow. Are you 10? You’ve done nothing but insult me like any other child instead of talking like the 50+ year old man that you are. For god sakes, I’m half your age and have more class than you. I don’t run around calling people “iphone heads” or tell them they’re “pissing/shitting on” themselves. I don’t run around thinking whatever phone I have and carrier I’m on is “boss” or “pimp slapping” all others. I don’t tell other people their *opinions* are wrong or stupid or “a joke”. I don’t even assume what other people can/can’t supposedly afford. You don’t know my name, let alone my economic standing. Try harder on your insults Dick. You’ve been using the same old ones for years.

        • Richard Yarrell

          You’re economic standing is pretty clear in my world. As i said a person that can’t purchase what they want on a yearly basis clearly has issues. At your rate every 2plus years you should just simply die technology is passing you buy as usual. You my friend are a useless turd.

        • squiddy20

          1. And your education level is pretty clear not only in “my world”, it’s clear to everyone. It’s spelled “your”. Also, the Galaxy Nexus is not “2years old” as you have repeatedly claimed. Go back to grade school.
          2. If I wanted to waste my money paying an ETF to upgrade to a new phone every year, I could do so. But why would I want to? My Galaxy Nexus can do everything I need it to. I don’t need some gimmicky “S Voice” or eye tracking crap that works only half the time.
          3. “As i said a person that can’t purchase what they want on a yearly basis clearly has issues.” Then by your logic, everyone has issues since most people don’t upgrade their phone every year. Only the die hard technophiles and people who have (or think they have, as is your case) money to burn. By the way, you’ve claimed you can “buy 2 phones every year”, and yet you still only have your supposedly “pimp slapping” Note 2. Where’s that second phone, hmmm? What a joke.

    • http://www.jeffkibuule.com Jeff Kibuule

      “Blows out of the water” is a weird thing to say when it’s also $300 more expensive. Typically one does “get more” when they pay more.

    • Mystery Man

      Yes it does blow the Nexus 4 out of the water ONLY becuase of the Nexus 4′s beyond crappy battery life.

    • zifnab

      Nexus 4 is $300 cheaper and just because this S4 is vanilla, I assure you it won’t get direct push OS updates. Plus ya, the N4 came out 6 months ago, i’d hope this is better. Now your claims that this will blow away the N5 is pure speculation since we don’t even have rumors about it yet.

      • Jose Hernandez

        Google did say that they will update the phone directly. Meaning, Yes to direct push OS updates from Google.

    • PiCASSiMO

      Screen is still a turn off for me. I compared my Nexus 4…the whites are true whites and not in he S4 blueish green courtesy of the pentile display.

  • Rob

    I’d love to see this across companies with the like of Samsung, HTC, LG, and Sony, motorola is a given. Maybe this was the start to the multiple nexus device rumors a while back.

  • Tom

    Any chance of T-Mobile offering stock Android as a download option to current S4 owners?

    • http://www.jeffkibuule.com Jeff Kibuule

      There’s a good chance you might get a stock ROM that you can put on your current S4 since it’s not bootloader locked like the AT&T version.

    • kalel33

      T-mobile will never offer anything that would take away their bloatware but I’m pretty sure that the ROM for this phone will show up on XDA and all you’d have to do is root it.

  • ssl48

    I’m not sure if this is as great as some people may think. Isn’t the S4 special because it has all of the Samsung software such as smart scroll, air viewl, etc.? And the price is steep for a 16bg phone. It would have been great if HTC could have partnered with Google and brought an HTC One developer edition. It’s unfortunate that HTC’s unlocked version only gets EDGE on T-Mobile, unless you’re in the refarmed areas. I’m still holding out for a black HTC One released by T-Mobile.

    • kalel33

      HTC doesn’t need Google’s help to make a Vanilla Android phone. They can do it anytime they want but they prefer to skin their OS with Sense.

    • Mystery Man

      it costs 630 at t-mobile how is the price steep lol. Your paying 20 bucks to not have to root your phone and install a vanilla rom if you choose to do so.

      • ssl48

        I know that it’s practically the same price at T-Mobile, but this Google version will have none of the features, like air view and smart scroll. Isn’t that what makes the S4 cool? It certainly isn’t the plastic hardware. I guess what I want is a smartphone WITHOUT the carrier branding, that is unlocked, and compatible with AT&T, T-Mobile. Wishful thinking.

        • niftydl

          Sony Xperia ZL LTE (C6506). Last generation hardware though – Snapdragon S4 Pro. Works on both T-Mobile and AT&T LTE, unlocked, no carrier bloatware. 1080p screen. Minimal Sony addons in software.

          Less than $600 directly from NewEgg.

    • PiCASSiMO

      Alex Zapata will continue to argue that your DE HTC One will work on Tmobile normal 1700/2100 bands as the phone is spec’d out with AWS. Can’t convince him about the truth.

      • Guest

        I’m done arguing. Nothing I have said is false. One can not see T-Mobile LTE speeds if they are not in a T-Mobile LTE market.

  • Mystery Man

    And it costs how much at T-mobile (The samsung touchwiz bloated version)? would have been good to put this comparison in the article.

    • 21stNow

      $629.99.

  • http://twitter.com/fightcrazy Vinny

    Keep it, I will not buy any new smartphone with great specks that is IMO ruined with a pathetic 16gb of internal memory. What the hell is the matter with Samsung, they shove the lower storage models on the US market. Not me, keep that crippled phone. When I heard this phone was coming I thought that for sure they would be offering the developers model with at least 32gb of int storage. Samsung advertises the SGS4 with 16-32 and 64 gb of storage but the US market never sees them. Keep it.

    • kalel33

      I think they’re going with the market on this one. I worked at Verizon for 8 months and seen thousands of accounts. I’d say >95% of the Iphone 5s were 16GB. It was rare to see someone buy a higher capacity. Up until the HTC One, there wasn’t an HTC phone with T-mobile that had more than 16GB of internal memory. The Galaxy S3 was the first phone that T-mobile had available with more than 16GB.

      What’s the difference between early last year and this year, where last year it was fine for you to have a 16GB phone and now it’s pathetic?

      • Jimmy Hammond

        You “seen” them???

        • kalel33

          Yes, “seen” is the past participle of “see”. You’ve never seen that word? In your question to me, you should have put, “You’ve “seen” them???”

    • Lagurl

      Just buy a freaking sd card I got an 8 gig on ebay for 20 bucks I think its RIDICULOUS that your complaining about 16 gigs were as last year 16 gigs in a phone was fine. I bet u have lots of porn or something thats why u need a lot of memory , to most people 16 gigs is MORE than enough I worked at att and most people bought 16 gig phones and never complained about memory everytime they went to pay the bill I would always tell them how they liked there phone they never once complained about memory. Most said 16 gigs is more than enough.

  • mingkee

    This reminds me the good old Nexus S and it was $530 with fixed 16GB.
    Now the Nexus S4 (maybe) packed with much better spec and…..LTE support.
    I just wish it was $530 like NS, but I want to have a big step up (Nexus Note…Nexus version of Galaxy Note 3).

  • RonJeezy

    I don’t understand the difference between them someone please explain. I’m trying to become a tech head but don’t get what the fuss is about. Help…

    • kalel33

      The original S4 is Android but with Samsung’s skin on it(Touchwiz). Samsung takes Android and makes all kinds of changes to it that they feel works better or differentiates it’s phone from the other manufacturers. Also, they can embed the OS with features they want, such as the S-beam, eye tracking, camera firmware, remote features, etc. And lastly, T-mobile gets their grubby little hands on it and dumps a bunch of their apps that cannot be removed with rooting.

      The Google S4 is plain jane Android, the way that Google meant for it to be. It has no bloatware from the manufacturer or carrier and gets updates as soon as Google releases them, not 6 months or more later like the manufacturers/carriers. Vanilla Android is faster but doesn’t have all the features that the manufacturer added, which can or cannot be something that is missed.

      • jmc897

        That’s a GREAT answer!

      • RonJeezy

        Gotcha. Thank you very much. Not sure which one I will get. My S3 after that last update is like my computer, glitchey.

      • Spanky

        6 months later? That’s an EXTREMELY generous estimate, my friend!

    • 21stNow

      The existing Galaxy S4 has Touchwiz on it, which is an extra layer of software that provides additional features, but also uses additional resources. The Galaxy S4-Google Edition will not have Touchwiz on it; it will be a Google Experience phone. Some people would rather have the smoother performance and faster updates that the new Galaxy S4 will offer over the features of Touchwiz.

  • SuzyQ

    I just want the best phone with good internet reception and less bloatwear… is that to much to ask for?