Future Galaxy S II Owners, What Is More Important Inside Your Device?

With a Samsung Galaxy support Twitter account providing us with the first true hint as to what is inside the future T-Mobile variant of the Galaxy S II, we want to know what is more important to our readers. Your comments on yesterday’s post showed split beliefs on what you would rather see inside the T-Mobile GSII, processor speeds, data speeds or a combination of the two.

So how about a poll to help determine the answer for TmoNews readers, data speeds or processor speeds? Of course without concrete benchmarks it’s difficult to determine just how much slower the Qualcomm Snapdragon processor will be over the Samsung Exynos processor so it’s possible your vote could change after the Galaxy S II is released and tested. For now, take the poll and let us know what is more important to you.

 

 


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  • Luisstorresg

    *for the device not to get outdated software within 2 months, like the first galaxy

    • The Vibrant is *still* running Froyo.

      • Anonymous

        Why would anyone in their right mind still be running the Vibrant STOCK is beyond all reason. Get this man some Cyanogen, STAT !!!

      • Anonymous

        Why would anyone in their right mind still be running the Vibrant STOCK is beyond all reason. Get this man some Cyanogen, STAT !!!

        • I hear you, I really do, but I haven’t taken the plunge because I can’t afford to replace the phone in even the tiny chance of bricking it. I did finally get around to rooting it and removing all the crapware and now it runs pretty well. 

        • Anonymous

          You shouldn’t be afraid…the conversion to Cyanogen has gotten a lot easier…If you’re happy rooted, more power to you, but you shouldn’t keep your phone from making the best of what it can by not going to Gingerbread.

        • Is Cyanogen for Vibrant basically Gingerbread? Also, how do I do it? Rooting was easy with SuperOneClick but I’m a little lost in the ROM flashing, bootloader unlocking jargon. 

        • Anonymous

          The instructions are relatively straight forward…they do require some knowledge of the system, but if you’re rooted…you can download ROM Manager (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.koushikdutta.rommanager&feature=related_apps) or JRummy’s ( https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jrummy.liberty.toolbox&feature=related_apps), and once either is installed, will connect you to a ROM listing for YOUR device. At that point, choose a ROM, and let it perform the installation. If you haven’t installed Clockwork Mod, then either of these apps will ALSO install that for you first ( You need to have the custom recovery in there first, so make sure you install that before trying to install ANY ROM ).

          Once the Clockwork Mod is on there, again, select the ROM you want to use ( you can go with a “STOCK” CyanogenMod, which, yes, is currently based off of the Gingerbread AOSP ).

          Here’s a link to their “Nightlies”: http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?device=vibrantmtd

          Another thing to note, is that there is a forum for the Vibrant on XDA-Developers. 

          http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?s=5662b7781a8fb19f07da56d17a19502d&f=708

          Try reading this( SLOWLY…take your time ): 

          http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991267

          And here is the link to the thread about flashing Cyanogenmod for your Vibrant. Again…take your time, read it slowly, and only proceed when you’re comfortable:

          http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061889

          And last but not least……if you’re still not comfortable doing it…don’t. It should be fairly straightforward…but…if you’re truly happy with how it is now…just be happy. :)

        • Anonymous

          Gingerbread 2.3.5 (FIVE). No vendor, save Google, has released that to any production device.

        • I only see nightly builds, not a stable deployment. Should that worry me?

        • Anonymous

          Looking through the thread, I would keep an eye on it for a couple of weeks….I think there was a problem with the server a couple of weeks ago, and they’re trying to resolve the issue to put stable builds again.

          There are other ROMs out there other than Cyanogen and they (for the most part ) install the same way through ROM Manager.

          Take your time to get familiar with it.

        • Is Cyanogen for Vibrant basically Gingerbread? Also, how do I do it? Rooting was easy with SuperOneClick but I’m a little lost in the ROM flashing, bootloader unlocking jargon. 

  • Luisstorresg

    *for the device not to get outdated software within 2 months, like the first galaxy

  • Anonymous

    *for the device not to get outdated software within 2 months, like the first galaxy…@603bc95b4bf894323994ef3c9db5e1c9:disqus I just got a $829.99 iPad2 for only $103.37 and my mom got a $1499.99 HDTV for only $251.92, they are both coming with USPS tomorrow. I would be an idiot to ever pay full retail prices at places like Walmart or Bestbuy. I sold a 37″ HDTV to my boss for $600 that I only paid $78.24 for. I use http://bit.ly/grab2116 

  • Anonymous

    *for the device not to get outdated software within 2 months, like the first galaxy…@603bc95b4bf894323994ef3c9db5e1c9:disqus I just got a $829.99 iPad2 for only $103.37 and my mom got a $1499.99 HDTV for only $251.92, they are both coming with USPS tomorrow. I would be an idiot to ever pay full retail prices at places like Walmart or Bestbuy. I sold a 37″ HDTV to my boss for $600 that I only paid $78.24 for. I use http://bit.ly/grab2116 

    • Anonymous

      Get thee hence spammer….

  • Anonymous

    Its nice to have a cutting edge, rare processor in your device, but does it really matter? I mean, what do some of u do on your phones that you’re so hard up for exynos?…..you wanna brag to your buddies that your quadrant score is higher than theirs? C’mon!

    • Anonymous

      I could brag about the Exynos and make some claims about it based on some crap I read online but I’m just gonna say that I would rather have a tailor made Samsung chip inside of my very high end Samsung phone than a Qualcomm chip.  Look at Apple’s(Samsung’s) A5.

      I simply have more confidence in Exynos being a better chip than I have belief that the 42Mbps radio will actually pull data faster than the 21Mbps radio where I live at.

      I could care less if I can get 42Mbps* out of town or in some other part of my town.  My house(which has Full “4G”) doesn’t even flirt with 6Mbps on a MT4G.

      • Anonymous

        finally broke my POS mytouch 4g and got the Sensation. 
        Its going back though because Sense constantly reloads when I hit the home button. 
        I will exchange it as I am still within 14 days but I am not holding out hope. 
        When I got my first Mytouch 4g it did the same damn thing. 
        Of course some people will say, “well its probably an app causing it”. 
        So as a user I should have to uninstall all my apps and than reinstall 1 at a time to determine which app it is?
        NO!
        How about HTC makes a phuckin stable UI that isnt so easily interfered with by other apps. 

        • Anonymous

          What kind of DL’s did you get on both devices?  

        • Anonymous

          Sorry if you mean what type of apps I downloaded I only use my phone basically for work related stuff so I am not rooting or sideloading apps. 
          I dont think that I have a ton of apps running though but I get the sense (no pun intended) that Sense simply cant handle as many apps running as say Touchwiz can. 
          Again if HTC expects people to just start unloading apps and reloading to figure out which app it is that is simply unrealistic. 
          LOL maybe ice cream will mean the end of having to use more polished UI’s like Sense. 
          I figure I will ride out 1 more HTC Sensation and if the reload problem persists I will return it and wait on the GSII

        • Anonymous

          What kind of DL’s did you get on both devices?  

        • Anonymous

          Nah DL speeds* lol sorry.

        • Anonymous

          Oh LOL. 
          I am on wifi all day but 2-4 down on network most of the time. 
          As I head in closer to the city of Atlanta that increases. 
          I am about 25 min north of ATL. 

      • Anonymous

        I see your point. Ill be the first to admit I was wrong if the qualcomm setup proves to be significantly lackng in performance compared to exynos…..the fact is, noone knows how any us gs2 will perform. Regardless of carrier, the us gs2 will be slightly different than the original. Lets just wait til each carrier version drops and gets some real world experience.

        • Anonymous

          The Anandtech benchmarks are already out there, Google or Bing it!  It’s already know Q’s cpu/gpu is inferior to Exynos.

          Some reason, people are in denial, so go ahead and spend the monies on an inferior phone. Can’t stop you there.

        • Anonymous

          Here…let’s not even look at THIS generation of processors the original SGS STILL wiped the floor with the Adreno GPU’s in the Snapdragons ( http://goo.gl/TBaKW ). This was last year..when the original SGS’s came out, and the Humminbird sported 3X the processing power ( now mind, you, you’d only see this in OpenGL utilzing applications, since the base OS, at least until GB didn’t use GPU acceleration for normal rendering tasks ) as the Snapdragon (QSD 8×50) processors which. Even when the G2 came out with an Adreno 205, it was still slower than a Hummingbird’s GPU. 

        • Anonymous

          This just traces the original issues with the T-Mobile Galaxy S. You could “buy” one, but you had no chance to get GPS fixes or OS upgrades. But people are arguing that’s fine! Of course, upgrade came a year too late, but that’s moot at this point.

          I wanted to have a Hummingbird CPU, but the whole package sucked, so a G2 was a much better value at that time esp SLCD without pentile.

          Now, it’s basically the T-Mobile Galaxy S* will suck, once again.

    • Anonymous

      To actually answer part of your question.  The Qualcomm chip is capable of the very few hardcore things I do on my phone such as play youtube videos, check my email, browse the web, play Angry Birds… yeah pretty much nothing.

    • Anonymous

      Why bother getting a new phone then?

      For those that ARE getting a Samsung Galaxy S II, it better be the same as the other ones on the market.  Otherwise, it’s bait and switch.

    • Anonymous

      Why bother getting a new phone then?

      For those that ARE getting a Samsung Galaxy S II, it better be the same as the other ones on the market.  Otherwise, it’s bait and switch.

    • Yes it really matter as with the hummingbird processor in the sk4g I never had buffering in youtube videos and the htc sensation is a slug in trhat regard and many others

  • Anonymous

    This is a no brainer.  Exynos and the not-so-realistic-for-most-people-anyway 21Mbps over a Qualcomm chip.

    To the geeks its “Exynos” and for the average Joe its “1.5Ghz”

    • Guest42

      cool, go over to att or sprint if thats what important to you. tmobile is interested in having a phone for its hspa +42 promotion :-)

      • Anonymous

        Giving me the boot?  I’m not leaving because of a processor.

        • Anonymous

          Dude…do what you like….I’ll still be rockin the N1 until a real successor comes along….this SGSII isn’t it. And the Ruby ( have you noticed how most “TMo-specific” flagship phones are code named after gemstones ?) isn’t really sizing up to be a real “show stealer”.

      • Good luck getting over 6mbps for a claimed 42mbps. 

    • Jstoned12

      I love fast phones but at the end of the day it still a phone…. I decked out my vibrant doing everything i could with OCing roms but i got board with it… I’m getting this phone cause im spoiled with the screen, once i got the vibrant that was it, if the next phone screen was any less then that forget it….

      • Anonymous

        I feel you.  Til this day I’m spoiled by my Vibrant(Just the screen really) and that’s why I’m waiting for some HD SuperAMOLED.  After using 2.1/2.2 for 14 months now,  It’s time for a more serious OS refresh for me.

  • Jstoned12

    I just like the phone and im gonna get it, i dont care what processor as long as the phone does what i need it to… were talking about a phone not a laptop it can only be so fast…. keep the lagg out of the phone, go to my web pages and do your norm calls txt etc…. and im good

    • Gilla87

      Agreed.. Although i actually do use my phone like a pocket sized laptop at times.. The processor change is definitely not a deal breaker though as I’m sure it should still be more than adequate for such use.. Just playing the waiting game now..
      _m/ (>_<) m/_

  • NYer

    As a non-techie, I actually care most about better batteries on a device with a good quality display so that I don’t have to plug it in before it is time to go to bed.

    • Anonymous

      Do you go to bed at like 2pm?

      • Anonymous

        I’m not sure your angle but lol anyway.

        • Anonymous

          I just mean that with both my mytouch and now my Sensation I WISH i was fortunate like NYer to have my phone last all day until bedtime.
          :)

        • NYer

          That was my point. I wish more emphasis was placed on having my phone last the entire day. I think the typical user of an Android phone would prefer the manufacturers concentrating on optimizing energy consumption and battery life than getting processor speeds to levels most of us will never utilize.

        • Anonymous

          Yup I hear ya. 
          Personally I am to the point with Android where if the Galaxy SII will probably be my last Android phone. 
          I am burned out on all the problems I had with both the mytouch and now the Sensation. 

        • Anonymous

          WIth CM7 on my G2, I’m getting at least a 1.5 days of battery before I need to charge. I’d only let it drop to around 60% to keep from killing the lithium chemistry. I can go days on standby.

          With normal usage, still amazing and a full day’s stamina.

    • I put Juice Defender (plus) on my Vibrant and it seems to help prolong the battery life. Give the free version a try and see what you think.

  • Anonymous

    I really would have to see the benchmarks between T-mobile’s GSII and the benchmarks from the other GSIIs.  If the difference is barely noticeable, then going with a different processor was a good idea.  However, if there is a significant drop in performance just to include the 42 Mbps modem, then I definitely would  rather have the Exynos processor.  I think that a good chunk of the T-mobile customers don’t have the HSPA+ 42 Mbps in their area.  I could be wrong though….

    • Cjvcmc

      one must value that these phones are designed to grow in speed as the network improves over time.. and it is always improving for the most part as technology advances the phones will get faster due to their…. ability… to go faster with network improvements

    • Anonymous

      Dude……the data already exists for comparing the Exynos processor and the AQP 8060…Look it up…Geeze people…

      You’ll notice it because it’s known that the Adreno 220 has issues in rendering text a certain way. Just look around at people complaining about the Sensation, spu..spu..spu..sputtering.
      Guess what GPU the Sensation 4G has ? Bingo !

    • Anonymous

      Dude……the data already exists for comparing the Exynos processor and the AQP 8060…Look it up…Geeze people…

      You’ll notice it because it’s known that the Adreno 220 has issues in rendering text a certain way. Just look around at people complaining about the Sensation, spu..spu..spu..sputtering.
      Guess what GPU the Sensation 4G has ? Bingo !

      • where is this data im looking and searching and nothing.

        • Anonymous

          Look at another of my posts for a comparison video on youtube between the SGSII and the Sensation for more info.

  • Trobertd

    I agree about getting rid of the lag, lag is the most annoying thing about any phone no matter the carrier or brand of the device

  • The Exynos+Mali400 combination is at least twice as fast and four times as powerful as the SnapdragonS3+Adreno220 combination. It is only true because Android Gingerbread and onward rely heavily on GPU acceleration. It would be the other way around for Froyo and below.

  • The Exynos+Mali400 combination is at least twice as fast and four times as powerful as the SnapdragonS3+Adreno220 combination. It is only true because Android Gingerbread and onward rely heavily on GPU acceleration. It would be the other way around for Froyo and below.

    • Anonymous

      Now here, is a man who’s done his homework. A+ for Conan….

  • Evan Carter

    I don’t see the big deal. I just want a smooth running phone to make calls, send text messages, watch videos, and surf the web. I just wish I new what some of you guys did on your phone that calls for a dual core processor. Heck, my G2 runs at 800mhz and I don’t see the need in anything bigger.

    • Anonymous

      Dude…if you’re happy, then fine…stick with that. Now I don’t want to hear you bitchin because a buddy of yours gets the Sprint SGS2, and you see it running Air Attack HD ( or some other HD game ) and get blown away by the performance. 

    • Anonymous

      That’s not the argument here. If you want a Sensation-class phone, get the Sensation.

      For those that are going to put money down for GS2, they better get a GS2. No bait and switch!

  • Evan Carter

    I don’t see the big deal. I just want a smooth running phone to make calls, send text messages, watch videos, and surf the web. I just wish I new what some of you guys did on your phone that calls for a dual core processor. Heck, my G2 runs at 800mhz and I don’t see the need in anything bigger.

  • I don’t plan on using WiMax very often so I guess of the two the processor is much more important. Mostly I care about the screen. Also, I want the GPS to work unlike with my Galaxy S 1. 

  • Guest

    I just like that it supports umts bands 2 and 5 in addition to 4. Hope it supports 1 and 8 as well. I don’t care about the other specs. Well maybe I care that it is an android.

  • Aaron Blain

    Dual Cores have proven that they do not increase battery life like they were supposed to. In fact in some cases they are worse (thunderbolt). My Nexus One (on cyanogen) can get 18ish hours to one charge with moderate usage and Nexus is almost two years old now. I would rather have faster data speeds hands down so I can get the latest Cyanogen update :-)

    • Brad

      That’s news to me that the Thunderbold is a dual-core device. :-)

    • Anonymous

      Who told you that lie ? The TBolt is a single core…it’s the cheeser Qualcomm LTE chipset that sucks out the electrons…..why do you think that JOB #1 ( right after getting ROOT, of course ) was finding a way to turn off LTE that would stay sticky ?! 

      Get REAL, the OS isn’t fully optimized for Multi-Cores yet. Gingerbread is better at it than Froyo, of course, but you won’t see any of that improvement until ICS, at least not on handsets. On tablets, folks an already see the gains they’ve made there in HC ( especially 3.1+ ).

      Get your facts straight people !

    • Anonymous

      Who told you that lie ? The TBolt is a single core…it’s the cheeser Qualcomm LTE chipset that sucks out the electrons…..why do you think that JOB #1 ( right after getting ROOT, of course ) was finding a way to turn off LTE that would stay sticky ?! 

      Get REAL, the OS isn’t fully optimized for Multi-Cores yet. Gingerbread is better at it than Froyo, of course, but you won’t see any of that improvement until ICS, at least not on handsets. On tablets, folks an already see the gains they’ve made there in HC ( especially 3.1+ ).

      Get your facts straight people !

  • Ilyas_k15

    Personally, I don’t need incredible data speeds. I am actually happy with my 3G speeds. I get around 5-6 Mbps download speeds on my crappy Motorola Cliq, and I don’t even need much more than that. Plus data plans cost more money nowadays, this whole “decrease speeds after you used up your 2GB” totally sucks. I would like to use video chat and Netflix on my next phone, but I can already imagine how much data I am going to use up by going so. Anyway, all that aside, since I am getting good speeds in my area no matter what, I would rather have a more powerful processor than a more powerful modem.

    • DetroitTechnoFan

      I too am impressed by the network speeds on my crappy Motorola Cliq, but for me, my data contract is so old that I literally have NO caps set on my usage! I could go thru 20 GB’s a month and I’d still be getting the fast speeds, so for me, as long as the processing speed is good enough and has enough headroom for as long as the device stays intact, give me the faster network speeds! I could do a helluva lot of tethering with that!

    • DetroitTechnoFan

      I too am impressed by the network speeds on my crappy Motorola Cliq, but for me, my data contract is so old that I literally have NO caps set on my usage! I could go thru 20 GB’s a month and I’d still be getting the fast speeds, so for me, as long as the processing speed is good enough and has enough headroom for as long as the device stays intact, give me the faster network speeds! I could do a helluva lot of tethering with that!

      • Ilyas_k15

        You’re missing a very important point though. Once you get an upgrade, you won’t have the same data plan, you will be switched to the 2GB limit =

  • Meagan

    With any new mobile I want longevity:
    More ram than needed, to prevent stutter from videos/music loading
    More rom than needed to prevent lag from installing more than 10 simple apps.
    More processing power than needed, no lag between screens.
    More screen space, easier browsing
    Good battery life
    Uninstallable bloatware without need for root, I’d rather have the space for MY apps and not have apps that I never-ever-ever plan to use or open.

    I have 24 bloatware apps on my MyTouch 4G that I never plan to open or use.  That’s ridiculous.

    • Nick Gover

      I agree, I’ve noticed some newer games lagging on my myTouch 4G lately, and I’m on wifi, don’t think it is the internet connection speed.  I think the phones would hold up better for the 2 year contract period (possibly more OS updates) with the more capable processor.

    • Nick Gover

      I agree, I’ve noticed some newer games lagging on my myTouch 4G lately, and I’m on wifi, don’t think it is the internet connection speed.  I think the phones would hold up better for the 2 year contract period (possibly more OS updates) with the more capable processor.

    • Hi Meagan. I was getting low memory warnings on my Vibrant all the time until I rooted it (SuperOneClick) and used Titanium Backup to scrape all those crappy bloatware apps out. Now it runs smoothly. The apps that you can run after rooting are nice, but the real benefit was killing the bloatware. When my mom gets her first Android I will root it, clean out the crapware and then unroot it for security. 

    • Hi Meagan. I was getting low memory warnings on my Vibrant all the time until I rooted it (SuperOneClick) and used Titanium Backup to scrape all those crappy bloatware apps out. Now it runs smoothly. The apps that you can run after rooting are nice, but the real benefit was killing the bloatware. When my mom gets her first Android I will root it, clean out the crapware and then unroot it for security. 

  • John in PC

    Honestly, CPU doesn’t matter (since both CPU are excellent for an everyday user) as long nothing else breaks due to the processor change. The Exy CPU has been broken in for a few months now and from what I’ve read, everything seems to work. Will changing the CPU break something else like the GPS reception? Remember the Galaxy and it’s GPS issues? How long did we have to wait for fix from Samsung?

    • Anonymous

      There’s a GPS fix?  

    • Anonymous

      There’s a GPS fix?  

      • There’s an official Samsung app which eliminates any fiddling you’ve done to try and get it to work and resets it to the original broken state. That’s a sort of fix, right?

      • Anonymous

        Wait…the GPS got fixed on a Sam Sung phone ?…….ok people….time to watch out for airborne pork.

  • John in PC

    Honestly, CPU doesn’t matter (since both CPU are excellent for an everyday user) as long nothing else breaks due to the processor change. The Exy CPU has been broken in for a few months now and from what I’ve read, everything seems to work. Will changing the CPU break something else like the GPS reception? Remember the Galaxy and it’s GPS issues? How long did we have to wait for fix from Samsung?

  • Alvin B.

    I really could care less about the processor *IF* the phone is competitively fast. What worries ME is that the different processor will be yet another EXCUSE not to update the T-Mobile version of the phone while the rest of the world gets the latest Android updates.

    As far as the data speed goes…. that’s a good joke, fellas. I typically get 150kbit (not mbit) on 3G connections in my city. 4G never rolled out, and it looks like from the lack of recent 4G rollout updates that T-Mobile has ceased network upgrades.

    • Raul

      Where u live at? Somalia?

    • DetroitTechnoFan

      Are you sure you’re not set to EDGE only?

    • T-Mobile is dying on the vine. I’m jumping to Sprint for my next phone as soon as I reach the one year mark and my early termination fee drops from $200 to $100.

    • T-Mobile is dying on the vine. I’m jumping to Sprint for my next phone as soon as I reach the one year mark and my early termination fee drops from $200 to $100.

  • Alvin B.

    I really could care less about the processor *IF* the phone is competitively fast. What worries ME is that the different processor will be yet another EXCUSE not to update the T-Mobile version of the phone while the rest of the world gets the latest Android updates.

    As far as the data speed goes…. that’s a good joke, fellas. I typically get 150kbit (not mbit) on 3G connections in my city. 4G never rolled out, and it looks like from the lack of recent 4G rollout updates that T-Mobile has ceased network upgrades.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s see, do I want a better processor that I benefit from all the time or do I want higher theoretical data speeds that I might benefit from on rare occasions?

    Open your eyes, the bottleneck isn’t the data throughput, that’s just marketing.

    Before you ask for 42Mbps, go look at how a desktop opens/renders sites with a 5Mbps connection.

    • Anonymous

      But my cellphone needs 42Mbps so I can download X-Men: First Class on Blu-Ray and watch YouTube clips at 1080P FASTER!

      No I agree, give me 10 or 15 solid megs and I’m good to go.  If that’s sufficient enough speed to play youtube in 720P then that’s sufficient enough.

      • 10 or 15 mb is more than enough for 1080p vids..

  • MIKEEEEE

    the phone is a network device, so it’s a no brainer.

    make is best suited for the network, DUH!

    • Anonymous

      How bout make the network actually suited for the phone.

      • Anonymous

        Dude….I have to agree with you there….I appreciate the 3G, but fast it’s not….I don’t care about some corner of Portland ( I mean, I do…no loss of love, Trailblazers ), or some spot in New Jersey ( Yo Nets ! ), but PLEASE….over 90% of the country get their 3G in the 1~1.3 Mbps range. Look it up…listen to people…if you’re not going to really give them a FASTER throughput network, then at least give people phones that can make the experience that much better with the network you’ve got.

        Damn….did these people REALLY study marketing before working @ TMo USA ?

      • Anonymous

        Dude….I have to agree with you there….I appreciate the 3G, but fast it’s not….I don’t care about some corner of Portland ( I mean, I do…no loss of love, Trailblazers ), or some spot in New Jersey ( Yo Nets ! ), but PLEASE….over 90% of the country get their 3G in the 1~1.3 Mbps range. Look it up…listen to people…if you’re not going to really give them a FASTER throughput network, then at least give people phones that can make the experience that much better with the network you’ve got.

        Damn….did these people REALLY study marketing before working @ TMo USA ?

        • T Mobile employees are probably putting the majority of their energies into updating their resumes.

    • Anonymous

      How bout make the network actually suited for the phone.

  • I need to see side-by-side videos before I judge.

    I also want to hear about battery life on the Qualcomm version.

    • Anonymous

      What ? Are you like research adverse or something ? Look it up…that information is already out there. 

    • Anonymous

      You can’t Google or something? Anandtech already published results showing how Exynos crushes EVERYTHING in most metrics including performance and battery life!

      Only better device is the iPad2 (which isn’t a phone), and that’s a custom cpu/gpu too! Would you get a ferrari car to put a go-cart engine in?

      Don’t get the GSII then.

    • Dara0725

      You will have to excuse marcelo he doesnt get out much and seems to have a complaint about everyone and everything…seriously just go through these posts and all of them are bitching and moaning like he was personally robbed or something. I had a Behold 2 as well and got over it and got a new phone not dwelling on it years later.  He hates the phones….he hates the service…he hates and hates and hates.  You should be able to ask a question or post an opinion with out some sarcastic dick chiming in.  People do come on this site to ask other potentially informed people questions and hope some NICE person might give you an answer.  I for one am getting sick of the overuse of the word FAIL as well…anybody that uses that word about everything is a big FAIL themselves.  Some of these people need to watch Nick Burns the Computer Guy from SNL and realize that is who they are.

      • Anonymous

        Nice, pointless ad-hominem character assassination. Now what part was Marcelo wrong?

      • Anonymous

        Nice, pointless ad-hominem character assassination. Now what part was Marcelo wrong?

  • Nick Gover

    Definitely processor speed, my myTouch4G is supposed to get 14mbps download, never get over 4.5, seriously doubt I will get network speeds they are promising with this either.  So it’s a no brainer to get the better processor as the download speeds are “theoretical” and mostly marketing.

    • CRT24

      The only reason the speeds are “theoretical” is because the speed each user experiences is dependent on how many users there are…..if you were the only person on the network at that time then you would get the speed that your device was capable of……thus when you are in an area with 42mbs speeds and you have a device to match then you can expect to see increased speeds from your 14.4 device…….surely you don’t expect to get the full speed that your device is capable of??

    • CRT24

      The only reason the speeds are “theoretical” is because the speed each user experiences is dependent on how many users there are…..if you were the only person on the network at that time then you would get the speed that your device was capable of……thus when you are in an area with 42mbs speeds and you have a device to match then you can expect to see increased speeds from your 14.4 device…….surely you don’t expect to get the full speed that your device is capable of??

      • Nick Gover

        No, that’s what I’m saying, I’m never going to be the only person on the network and I don’t think this device will get anywhere near 42mbs in my area, so what’s the point of that?  Right now, I’m only getting 2G, since it says that now on Gingerbread.   I’d rather have the faster processor speed to run native apps.

        • Anonymous

          I’d rather have the faster processor speed to run native apps. <- EXACTLY. 
          Didn't a survey just get published not too long ago that specifically SAID, Android users PREFER to use their native apps over Web Content/Web Apps ? Wish I had the link, but I'm sure any enterprising person could find evidence of it.

        • Big tech companies seem to assume that everyone has fast, consistent internet everywhere.

        • Anonymous

          And they do so at their own Public Relations peril…….I’m still saying that if there was ONE thing the FCC could do to make things better for the public….is to get the companies to improve their coverage aside from making things faster.

        • CRT24

          Well if you are only getting 2g service in your area then it certainly won’t make any difference to you…..but your post sounded a little like there was a promise that you would get 42mbs speeds on individual devices and that there was some kind of false advertising going on….even the lower range mb/s capable devices will see increased speed in areas where the network enhancements are made to the 42mbs capability.

        • CRT24

          Well if you are only getting 2g service in your area then it certainly won’t make any difference to you…..but your post sounded a little like there was a promise that you would get 42mbs speeds on individual devices and that there was some kind of false advertising going on….even the lower range mb/s capable devices will see increased speed in areas where the network enhancements are made to the 42mbs capability.

      • Nick Gover

        No, that’s what I’m saying, I’m never going to be the only person on the network and I don’t think this device will get anywhere near 42mbs in my area, so what’s the point of that?  Right now, I’m only getting 2G, since it says that now on Gingerbread.   I’d rather have the faster processor speed to run native apps.

    • Anonymous

      Exactly.

  • Brian Richards

    ‘which processor is more likely to work with Netflix? That’s what matters to me.

    • JBLmobileG1

      I say either but without a decent data connection you could have the fastest processor in the world and you’d run into lag or freezing. I think Tmobile was smart and balanced it out. And does anyone know if there is a battery difference between the two processors? Maybe going the route they did… you’ll get an extra half hour.

      • JBLmobileG1

        And before anyone bashes my reply and say your only going to get 4.5mbps speeds… then what is the point of upgrading the towers to support 42mbps and to LTE like Verizon when we all know you’ll never hit their highest speeds that they claim to put out. Yet we all want better and faster and are willing to pay more when in reality there may be little difference.

    • JBLmobileG1

      I say either but without a decent data connection you could have the fastest processor in the world and you’d run into lag or freezing. I think Tmobile was smart and balanced it out. And does anyone know if there is a battery difference between the two processors? Maybe going the route they did… you’ll get an extra half hour.

    • Jonathan3579

      Processor plays no role in Netflix. Also, Netflix is available for all handsets running 2.2+

      • Cameron W3st

        all handsets except the G2X, which it still force closes on.  another FAIL Tmo

      • Cameron W3st

        all handsets except the G2X, which it still force closes on.  another FAIL Tmo

      • Anonymous

        Works on NookColor CM7 too. Hah.

      • Anonymous

        Works on NookColor CM7 too. Hah.

  • Brian Richards

    ‘which processor is more likely to work with Netflix? That’s what matters to me.

  • Anonymous

    After the debacle that was the Behold II, and the bungle that was the Vibrant ( only to have my initial comments that they had copped out of including the forward facing camera because they were taking the cheesy way out ), you would think TMobile would learn. 

    It seems that for every success ( MyTouch 3G, MyTouch 4G, LG G2X and even the Sensation itself )…there are just as many disappointments. The MyTouch 3G Slide, the G2, the Vibrant itself.

    This really IS a huge loss for them. Being able to “claim” they have 42Mbps HSPA+ cannot be backed up by the “in the field” performance over the VAST majority of the country. I live right smack between a  TMo HSPA+ enabled Tower, and an ATT HSPA/EDGE tower….guess who my phone roams to, and grabs. Yup….it pops down to EDGE, if I don’t force it to WCDMA, and only then does it stick to it.

    It seems like it’s this way for the vast majority of people. So, given the reality that over 90% of the people covered by TMo do NOT get speeds anywhere near where it could be considered truly in the HSPA+ range, why would you think people would really be motivated to STAY ( much less choose to COME TO TMo ) ?

    Unless you’re offering them something truly extraordinary, people WILL look for an alternative.If TMo had matched the Exynos with the larger screen, and left the radio at supporting 21Mbps, not only would they have had a winner on their hands, they’d actually have a REAL alternative to things like the Thunderbolt, the Droid Bionic, and dare I say…the iPhone ?

    Yet again…..a massive FAILURE ( it’s beyond “FAIL” here folks ) of TMo’s North American “handlers” because at this point you can’t believe that they’re calling their own shots anymore. Thank you Mr. Humm and company, for lack of customer oriented thinking. This is REALLY the way to get customers to stay, much less attract more to switch to T-Mobile.

    • Matlock

      How was the G2 a failure!? I owned one til I swapped over to the Sensation, and it was one of the best pones ive had to date! My GF will not give up her G2, at all, she loves that thing to death! Everyone of my friends that have it, absolutely love it. Now the only time ive seen G2s crap out, is from idiot owners who dont know how to take care of their phones. So to say that the G2 was a failure is completely wrong. 

      The Vibrant is/was a good phone, it had crappy batt life, and yes a few bugs here and there. Aside from that it was a good phone. No phone is without its bugs. Now the biggest issue was the ridiculously long wait for the phone to be updated, that was super fail on Samsung’s part. 

      As for you having issues with reception, dont try to generalize it to everybody else. I have been enjoying my HSPA+ connection down here in the Bay area, and must say its rather consistent! I average speeds around 8-9mbps down and 1.5-2.2mbps up with my Sensation. Yes I do know that not everyone is able to get those kinds of speeds, but I dont see why its a fail on Tmo’s part.

      As far as the SGS2 goes, it is absolute fail on T-mo’s part! THe Qualcomm processors have come out on the bottom in every single test, including batt life. I love my Sensation, but I the same time I am not really too thrilled about it. Oddly enough, Ive actually switched to the new 9900 as my DD for now, and will probably keep it that way until something else comes around.  Im really waiting for the next Nexus phone, and hoping and praying it comes to Tmo again. The SGS2 was going to be my next phone, but not anymore! 

      Google please BRING the next NEXUS TO TMO!!!!

    • Matlock

      How was the G2 a failure!? I owned one til I swapped over to the Sensation, and it was one of the best pones ive had to date! My GF will not give up her G2, at all, she loves that thing to death! Everyone of my friends that have it, absolutely love it. Now the only time ive seen G2s crap out, is from idiot owners who dont know how to take care of their phones. So to say that the G2 was a failure is completely wrong. 

      The Vibrant is/was a good phone, it had crappy batt life, and yes a few bugs here and there. Aside from that it was a good phone. No phone is without its bugs. Now the biggest issue was the ridiculously long wait for the phone to be updated, that was super fail on Samsung’s part. 

      As for you having issues with reception, dont try to generalize it to everybody else. I have been enjoying my HSPA+ connection down here in the Bay area, and must say its rather consistent! I average speeds around 8-9mbps down and 1.5-2.2mbps up with my Sensation. Yes I do know that not everyone is able to get those kinds of speeds, but I dont see why its a fail on Tmo’s part.

      As far as the SGS2 goes, it is absolute fail on T-mo’s part! THe Qualcomm processors have come out on the bottom in every single test, including batt life. I love my Sensation, but I the same time I am not really too thrilled about it. Oddly enough, Ive actually switched to the new 9900 as my DD for now, and will probably keep it that way until something else comes around.  Im really waiting for the next Nexus phone, and hoping and praying it comes to Tmo again. The SGS2 was going to be my next phone, but not anymore! 

      Google please BRING the next NEXUS TO TMO!!!!

      • Anonymous

        How was the G2 a failure ? Let’s see..it’s the follow on to the G1 ( THE! Android that started it all ), and what did TMo do ? Choose a phone from HTC that, what did one hungarian blogger call it…oh yes, “it looks like the car a cold war era eastern block general would be driving”. In other words, F_GLY. Then what the heck was up with that processor ? 800Mhz ? Really ? Really ??. Adreno 200 ? So what you’re saying is that you can’t make a phone that’s faster than the Nexus One that had come out 8 months prior ? Is that right ? Then there’s the hinges…maybe your and your girlfriends had good ones, but if you were paying any attention at all, you’d have seen that LOTS of people had problems with theirs……..

        Now..as to the silly statement like “but I dont see why its a fail on Tmo’s part.”.
        Hello ? It’s their network. What ? You think fast is only for your Haight/Ashbury friends ? 

        Get real, Matlock….it’s a fact that the network speeds are NOWHERE near like what you’re experiencing in SanFran, in most of the rest of the country. If folks in Oklahoma City aren’t getting it…FAIL. If folks in the outskirts of Houston aren’t getting it…FAIL. If the guy walking down Bourbon Street in Nawlins isn’t getting it….FAIL. Get in touch with reality there…eh ?

        • Anonymous

          @Marcelo_L:disqus To be fair, the G2 is a great phone for the price and expectations.It’s 1.5GHz stable (1.1GHz daily), nobody was expecting its GPU to be spectacular.  Yet, it’s the Adreno 205 (not Adreno 200 or lower) and that’s overpowered for its needs. It’s not a GS and never meant to be.

          Works fine as a daily driver that it’s sized for, and better durability than the MyTouch’s. I think it’s actually has Asian phone looks (clean and simple, unlike gaudy MT4G), and slightly derivative of the Nexus One which a lot of people like the looks for too!

          Mine has ZERO hinge issues, and actually outlasted the Sony Z11’s laptop hinges. Both still look new, as what happens when one takes care and PhantomSkinz.

          However, if I’m going a GS2, I expect to get the full GS2 experience.

        • Anonymous

          Fair enough. I’ll give you that. Still..the Scorpion processor was a miserably failed attempt at including a cheaper memory controller, so while your instruction pipeline is a little more optimized, your fetching is the pits. Overclocking just means that the MOE for component quality was over compensated for. Manufacturers are KNOWN to test for a specific speed, with specific MTBF numbers, you could just as easily, picking up two chips, and find one that can do a 50% OC, and the other can only do a 10%. 

          While I’m glad your hinges were good…you can’t deny there were plenty of folks who had shoddy ones ( enough for several websites to report the issue…).

          Now to NuShrike’s point, if you’re ok with a KIRF of what the SGS II is everywhere else, then jolly for you. I’m just saying they shouldn’t call it the SGS II, if it’s not built with the same processor.

        • Anonymous

          And if it’s going to be a KIRF of the SGS II, they shouldn’t be charging SGS II prices either!

  • Junieruiz

    T mobile needs to understand something leave things alone after the update on the G2X It was even faster than it was before But the screenleak was driving me nuts The worst part They got rid of the lg UI camera the only reason I got the g2x it was 4 its processor and camera That’s like taking a ferrari engine And putting a honda engine inside of it let’s not forget we only got gingerbread 2.2.3 that’s not even the current 1 after my 6 G2X T mobile Send me a sensation 4G It wasn’t as fast as my g2X But I didn’t have to worry about Screen leak And it has a awesome camera I love the 4.3 inch screen size I get between 5/10mbps I’m happy with that but the processor sucks this thing is laggy AS HELL the HTC UI Ain’t helpin it I’ll take processor speed and camera over 42mbps shit I’m happy with 21mbps I was lookin forward to get the t Mobile galaxy s 2 after ripping its guts out and adding a snapdragon 1.5 clock speed don’t mean shit for faster data speeds we all know that you will never get 42mbps your be lucky to get between 15/21mbps DAMMM I’m so disappointed on T MOBILE I’ve been with them for a very long time And honestly I’m sick of all the bullshit with them between paying a extras $60 a month for 10gb the crazy thing it only lasts 2 weeks then im throttle down to E I hate to say this but move over T MOBILE sprint here I come they have the perfect galaxy 2 there 4g ain’t that great but I don’t have to worry about getting throttle :-) :-) :-)

  • Anonymous

    While I agree with your last sentence. I’ll tell you right now that in practice…..you’re not going to get anywhere near even HALF of the speed your device is capable of.

    I could be standing……directly across the street from the TOWER in my area with a 7.2 Mbps capable phone, switched to WCDMA-ONLY, and yet I’ll get MAYBE 2.5Mbps for second…..regardless of day of the week, hour of the day. <- That's a period there, in case you weren't sure.

    That being said, the average speed in practically all areas of the metro area I live in ( mixture of suburbs and downtown )….will hover around 1.2~1.5 Mbps ……and this is supposedly with a network that's ALREADY at 42Mbps.

    I've tried phones that were 14.4, and 21Mbps in these areas too….they do get better…but nowhere like 10Mbps as I've seen some folks report. Those areas must be enabled for 42Mbps, but must have better backhaul to support that kind of throughput.

    Forget what the tower itself is capable of, it's how congested the backhaul it's connected to, that gates your performance.

    And since it's not liable to get any better anytime soon….I think the vast majority of customers would've preferred to have had it release with the Exynos.

    And for those cheesers of you who posted that you're going to "wait to see what the benchmarks are"….Hello ? What planet are you on ? Is it called Bizarro ? Because this is Earth. And on Earth. The Adreno 220 ( which is what's in the AQP 8060 ), not only get's it's lunch handed to it by the Mali 400, but also it's breakfast AND it's dinner.

    It's been SERVED. It's been so SERVED that it's a downright shaming what the Adreno receives at the hand of the Mali400. How about some of you look this up on YouTube or something. The only thing that beat the Mali 400 right now is the Mali 600, and the PowerVR core in the A5 processor. "Wait to see the benchmarks"…bah…..go ahead and buy yourselves some….you'll be back here bitching, "But it laaags"…within a week. 

    Does NO ONE do any research when making decisions anymore ? Ooops…apparently not.

    • CRT24

      That’s fine if you would rather have the faster processor rather than the increased network speeds but you basically restated what I said……which is that you will never reach the speeds that your device is capable of due to the traffic on the network. But regardless of whether you have a 7.2mbs device or a 42mbs device, you will see increased speeds up to a certain point. My sensation which is a 14.4 device routinely gets 6mbs speeds on a 21mbs network and realistically when my area is updated to 42mbs does that mean it will double?……of course not but I will probably see 7-8mbs when that happens if I am getting 6mbs now.

      • Anonymous

        I put what you said into context, and backed it up with some empirical data to fill in the gaps. So if you want to say completing the argument, is restating. Then yeah, I restated it…properly.

        • CRT24

          The context of my response to the other individual was that his post was implying that there was some sort of guarantee or stated claim that he would get 14.4 mbs speeds just because his device was capable of this not to mention he was dismissing the almost 5 mbs that he was getting as if that were a bad thing. That’s why we have all of these disclaimers all over our advertising because people take things way to literally and are uninformed and base their opinions on mis-information that is created in their own minds.

        • Anonymous

          Oh…..so you work for TMO ? Should’ve realized that……

        • CRT24

          Yes I do………what does that have to do with anything that I said? What, T-Mobile employees can’t have an opinion and if they do it is somehow a conflict of interest?

        • Anonymous

          Tell your employer they ruined the best device of 2011

        • Anonymous

          You see ? And my lips didn’t even have to move to say it.

          OF COURSE, you’re entitled to have you say. You DO realize most people here ARE PULLING for you guys to come out on top, don’t you ? I mean, people don’t come to TMoNews generally because they love Verizon ( unless they feel like trolling….and you guys know who you are ! ).

          But unless everyone at the office knows you as CRT24, or David would divulge where you’re accessing TMONews from ( and I don’t know that a journalist would do that )….I’m just curious why you wouldn’t be raising an even bigger stink than I am. I mean, I’m just a customer…..what do I know ( a fair bit as it turns out )…but it’s YOUR livelihood, I’d think you aside from defending them, would be a harsher critic on behalf of the customer. But like I said, I’m just a customer, what do I know.

        • CRT24

          So what was your point then?? Usually people that say they know “quite a bit” to use your words don’t know as much as they think they do…..commonly known as “know it alls” which is kind of like calling a really large guy “tiny”. I defend T-Mobile when I see people spouting things that are untrue……I have also pointed out mis-steps that this company has made which have led us to the situation that we are presently in, and yes I am very concerned about the future. But that does not change the fact the my company has a great product, for the best rates and I really hope that we can get our act together from a business model standpoint that gets us back on track to growth again. I certainly don’t like everything we do but of the options that are out there, if you are in an area where all carriers work equally well, then choosing T-Mobile is an absolute no brainer because not only do I know what we offer, I know my competition and that makes the choice easy…..IMO.

        • Anonymous

          Heh….enjoy implying whatever you want, dude. Good for you for pointing out your employers missteps. No one is saying TMo doesn’t have a good product ( it’s not a great product in any other aspect that price….for the moment..the $49.99 is for a “limited time” no ? ), because the service isn’t evenly distributed across all sectors of their coverage. Do that. Do that and THEN you can call it a great product. 
          As I mentioned to someone else earlier…..if the guy who’s walking down the street in Akron can’t enjoy the same performance on the network that the guy across the street from the Moscone center in San Francisco can,  then the service can’t be classified as “great”. The definition of great can’t applied here like an athlete who excels at one sport. This is a business that’s primary job is to give wireless voice and data across the country. If it wanted to do it “great” in one corner, then it’s regional. If just in urban areas ( and even then spottily ),  then that  adjective can’t really ascribed to it justifiably.

          Not trying to put you down, man, just being honest. TMo USA has been hands tied by TMo Gmbh for a long, long time.

        • CRT24

          The context of my response to the other individual was that his post was implying that there was some sort of guarantee or stated claim that he would get 14.4 mbs speeds just because his device was capable of this not to mention he was dismissing the almost 5 mbs that he was getting as if that were a bad thing. That’s why we have all of these disclaimers all over our advertising because people take things way to literally and are uninformed and base their opinions on mis-information that is created in their own minds.

  • Kyohsiro82

    bottom line is you can have 300 Mbs but if the web sites arent putting out those speeds your not going to get them. 

  • BigMixxx

    This is a downright difficult choice for the spec specific group, Most people will see a big pretty phone, there for the taking.

    Let’s see..
    “Do I give up speed for processor, especially if my dominant area gives me that theoretical half of the maximum….”  To walk up to a verizon user and show them I’m getting 18 meg down and 3 up, where on average they get capped….

    disclaimer:
    I am not a samsung fan (the behold II was my first and last samsung phone)…I won’t buy this phone.

    No matter how you look at it.  Speed of doing stuff vs. speed of doing stuff with a network is totally different. Your user experience is the key. If your experience is going on the network and doing stuff is what you want, then you want the speed of the network. If you like to use the phone no matter what he speed is, get a “faster phone”.  it clearly has 300 megahertz more clock cycles.  The potential is HIGH that it is SUPER fast and most efficient for the average user.  It’s as simple as that.

    Remember, there are 3 or 4 variants of the Galaxy S II.  Orion chipset, Enyxos (all from samsung) and more than likely Qualcomm.  Hell there may be an nvidia variant as well.  This is the money maker brand for their mobile devices. I’m sure they are learning how to keep customers coming back to their devices. (Gotta wonder why apple is REALLY suing them)

    But most importantly, there is CHOICE.  Imagine if T-mobile was allowed to be swallowed by AT&T.  This WHOLE debate would be totally different.

    Think about the poll question….

    Would you like ATT or Verizon (because Verizon announced they are buying Sprint ).
    Oh wait, Verizon ain’t doing the Galaxy S II.
    Now do I buy an unlocked version for 700 bucks or get it subsidized through at&t for $400.
    Oh, I can only use it on AT&T’s network….2 gig cap…I’m already mad.
      
    Damn, ATT.. would that be cash, check, charge to your credit card or Leg, Arm, Elbow?

     

  • BigMixxx

    This is a downright difficult choice for the spec specific group, Most people will see a big pretty phone, there for the taking.

    Let’s see..
    “Do I give up speed for processor, especially if my dominant area gives me that theoretical half of the maximum….”  To walk up to a verizon user and show them I’m getting 18 meg down and 3 up, where on average they get capped….

    disclaimer:
    I am not a samsung fan (the behold II was my first and last samsung phone)…I won’t buy this phone.

    No matter how you look at it.  Speed of doing stuff vs. speed of doing stuff with a network is totally different. Your user experience is the key. If your experience is going on the network and doing stuff is what you want, then you want the speed of the network. If you like to use the phone no matter what he speed is, get a “faster phone”.  it clearly has 300 megahertz more clock cycles.  The potential is HIGH that it is SUPER fast and most efficient for the average user.  It’s as simple as that.

    Remember, there are 3 or 4 variants of the Galaxy S II.  Orion chipset, Enyxos (all from samsung) and more than likely Qualcomm.  Hell there may be an nvidia variant as well.  This is the money maker brand for their mobile devices. I’m sure they are learning how to keep customers coming back to their devices. (Gotta wonder why apple is REALLY suing them)

    But most importantly, there is CHOICE.  Imagine if T-mobile was allowed to be swallowed by AT&T.  This WHOLE debate would be totally different.

    Think about the poll question….

    Would you like ATT or Verizon (because Verizon announced they are buying Sprint ).
    Oh wait, Verizon ain’t doing the Galaxy S II.
    Now do I buy an unlocked version for 700 bucks or get it subsidized through at&t for $400.
    Oh, I can only use it on AT&T’s network….2 gig cap…I’m already mad.
      
    Damn, ATT.. would that be cash, check, charge to your credit card or Leg, Arm, Elbow?

     

  • Anonymous

    actually the most important thing inside the device to me is internal storage capacity and gps functionality.  1.2 vs 1.5 ghz processor speed i believe is irrelevant in real life application.  may be that microsecond before an app opens up may cost some lives, but the chances of that happening are insanely small for me to worry about it.

    • Gary

      Really, this is the right answer. Having a 3GHz quad core processor, 2GB of RAM, and 3Tbps data speeds doesn’t mean shit if you only have 500mb internal storage. 

    • Anonymous

      It’s the GPU everyone’s arguing about, ctkatz. The Exynos has a little more optimized processor pipeline for an ALU, but it’s the Mali 400 GPU that really makes the Exynos shine.

      • Anonymous

        no, that was not a misprint if you thought so.  i said gps, as in global positioning system.  my vibrant is 25% useless because it can’t lock on to a signal when i use navigation.  i have an iphone that i pretty much use to make calls and use its gps.  i would rather cut the cord from the cult of jobs as quickly as possible and this phone would do it.

        i really do not believe that such a small change in processor speed is relevant to the average user who is the target audience.  those who obsess over specs like that is essentially a giant e-peen contest.  for any device, the only question that should be asked is “DOES IT WORK?”.  this device will text quickly, run angry birds and quickly gets on facebook.  are you telling me that this phone will stagger and stutter to run angry birds?  i don’t think so.

        by the time i would want to upgrade again, there will be better chips than the exynos around that will be better on the battery and would get those higher network speeds.  so i’m not going to worry about small things like the processor when in another 6 months both chips will be obsolete.

        • Anonymous

          This isn’t the argument. The argument is if you get a GS2, do you expect to get a GS2, you’re okay to get a KIRF that looks like a GS2?

          Arguing that you don’t have many needs for a phone is tangential, and totally unrelated.

    • Anonymous

      This is more like getting a 1.2GHz Core i7, or a 1.5GHz Core2 Duo. Can you understand that now?

  • Cellularcrazy09

    I think that phones are getting ridiculous with all the faster processors in them.  First of all, there aren’t many apps or games that would truly benefit from these crazy fast processors.  I could see putting them in a tablet, but in a phone i think its overkill.  Lets put faster modems or NFC or something else that we could actually use!

  • Dcericks

    I bought my Vibrant intending to keep if for 5 years or more.  I slapped in the FFC, and I love everything about it.  Oh – except that the GPS has never worked.  (I have one of those first-run units that can’t be “fixed”).  The only option they say I have is to file an insurance claim for $140.  Yeah.

    So what to I expect when I try again with the GS2?  I’d settle for just getting what I paid for, sans bullshit. 

    • Anonymous

      Take it from someone who got screwed by the “when Android 2 gets released, it’ll upgrade….(wait for it)wirelessly” Behold II.

      You don’t want none of this zombie.

      • BigMixxx

        HA!  That’s why I don’t by samsung products.  I too had a behold II

      • BigMixxx

        HA!  That’s why I don’t by samsung products.  I too had a behold II

        • CACHE

          i even had a hard time selling my Behold II. What a waste of $$$ that was!!

      • Anonymous

        except Samsung has bettered their record since then regardless Samsung makes the best devices completely through and through if you want something you will get it and xda allows us to get it

        • Anonymous

          You mean like making devices with rather crippled HW like GPS’s ? Then again, the 3G radio on the N1 doesn’t do HTC any favors. Of course everyone knows XDA-Developers will always have folks who can get things to work on your HW that the manufacturer should’ve shipped working.  

          The point that Samsung makes the “best devices”, however, is a VERY debatable point, and would depend on the crowd involved in the debate. In this crowd, I think you’re going to get a fair number of folks who’d be able to refute many of their good points with an equal number of failed ones.

  • Mirsad Karahasanovic

    Gonna wait for Prime!

    • Anonymous

      Ditto, this GSII with Crapdragon has fail written all over it.

    • Anonymous

      That’s IF ( and it’s a big IF ), because all the rumblings sound like it’ll be Big Red that gets the Nexus Prime, first. And here’s to hoping that the Prime has an Exynos processor.

  • badbob001

    Didn’t people complain when newly released phones didn’t support the fastest network speeds/technologies of the carrier (eg: LTE, 42mps, etc)? In terms of marketing damage-control, I think TMO made the right call. I wonder if there is any compatibility with AT&T’s GSM 3G/4G bands.

    Aside from benchmarks, are we really going to see significant real-world difference between these two CPUs? Does Gingerbread even fully support multi-cores or GPU acceleration? All this hardware is probably wasted until Google finally refreshes and modernize Android’s interface. Maybe that’ll be in Prime + Icecream. Or maybe we’ll just have to wait longer. I hope my G1 can last until then.

    • Fray Contreras

      All of the Android phone right now are running on a single core cpu. They say the ICS will enable multicore… Lets see how well it performs

    • remixfa.

      one thing ya gotta remember is that since this will be the ONLY SGS2 with the crapdragon processor, its probably going to be much lower on the update priority list for samsung.  If you thought waiting on the SGS1 updates was bad, wait till you have the SGS2 with crapdragon instead of exynos like every other SGS2.  I can see the screaming customers a mile away.

      • Anonymous

        I gotta pipe up about this……I think out of all the arguments I’ve read and replied to…this is the one that EVERYONE should be listening to.

        Forget CPU and GPU and Network speed. Nowadays, if your phone is not on the companies radar to get updated in a timely fashion….your ONLY recourse is to wait for the community. And frankly, for some of us, that’s ok, we’ll go to XDA or Freenode, and hack and churn until there’s a reasonably clean build. But realistically speaking, is that what everyone should do ? 

        Someone’s going to shell out $200+, and tie themselves to a 2 year contract….to be all “back of the bus” as far as updates go from the manufacturer ? No way.

        remixfa……excellent point !

    • Anonymous

      My hats off to you Sir for keeping the G1 rockin’ it until now. I don’t know that I would’ve had that patience. Even at a year plus on my N1, I’m already feeling the pangs for something new…but this thing, it aint’t it. Even the Ruby/Amaze doesn’t get my attention.

      But as far as the phones “not supporting” the fastest networks, that was at a time when the fastest network was still rocking 7.2 Mbps top speed. The switch to 14.4 and then 21 didn’t happen until early in the year for most areas, and 42Mbps…well…we can count on our hands and toes the areas that actually have not networks up and running smoothly. So…..at this point, the user experience isn’t just tied to network speed. And as others have pointed out, since most folks will hit their data caps quicker with a faster network ( presuming, of course, that they’ll be taking advantage of things like Netflix and Youtube OTA ), you’ll see a trend to the experience on the phone when it’s NOT using it’s data connection to provide content/interaction to the user as the gating factor for user experience satisfaction.

    • Anonymous

      My hats off to you Sir for keeping the G1 rockin’ it until now. I don’t know that I would’ve had that patience. Even at a year plus on my N1, I’m already feeling the pangs for something new…but this thing, it aint’t it. Even the Ruby/Amaze doesn’t get my attention.

      But as far as the phones “not supporting” the fastest networks, that was at a time when the fastest network was still rocking 7.2 Mbps top speed. The switch to 14.4 and then 21 didn’t happen until early in the year for most areas, and 42Mbps…well…we can count on our hands and toes the areas that actually have not networks up and running smoothly. So…..at this point, the user experience isn’t just tied to network speed. And as others have pointed out, since most folks will hit their data caps quicker with a faster network ( presuming, of course, that they’ll be taking advantage of things like Netflix and Youtube OTA ), you’ll see a trend to the experience on the phone when it’s NOT using it’s data connection to provide content/interaction to the user as the gating factor for user experience satisfaction.

  • badbob001

    Didn’t people complain when newly released phones didn’t support the fastest network speeds/technologies of the carrier (eg: LTE, 42mps, etc)? In terms of marketing damage-control, I think TMO made the right call. I wonder if there is any compatibility with AT&T’s GSM 3G/4G bands.

    Aside from benchmarks, are we really going to see significant real-world difference between these two CPUs? Does Gingerbread even fully support multi-cores or GPU acceleration? All this hardware is probably wasted until Google finally refreshes and modernize Android’s interface. Maybe that’ll be in Prime + Icecream. Or maybe we’ll just have to wait longer. I hope my G1 can last until then.

  • Calvin

    Look at you, just stirring the pot!

  • Lets gets wait and see

    One thing people fail to notice is the speed of your phone after weeks of use, or after download a bunch of apps. i noticed a lot of phone slow down after you install apps. people say use a task killer, but isn’t the point of multi-task  is to has more than one apps apps running at the same time? and bench marks are just numbers to me the real test is when your using the phone and you noticed you did everything you wanted to do and it has only been 3 minutes. but we will see.

  • Calvin

    She sure got a pretty back!

    • tbyrne

      You said it brother!

  • Nelson Cabrera

    Yea I figure i saw this image in August I typed in as Samsung Hercules and i saw this picture and a front picture. She is a beauty cant wait to get it from what i was told release date is Oct 16, 2011

  • Manusferrera

    so is the exynos chip 1.2 ghz dual core and the snap dragon is 1.5 so wouldnt the snap dragon be better. 

    • Fray Contreras

      No. Exynos uses A9 Cortex and Snapdragon uses A8 Cortex. The Exynos crushes this. At least the Snapdragon is dual core =D

    • Anonymous

      No clock speeds don’t always mean faster. Crapdragon has been destroyed in benchmarks by the Exynos all day long. This will be no different.

    • Anonymous

      Is a 1.5GHz Core2 Duo better than a 1.2GHz Core i7? Ask yourself this a few times.

      We’ve already been through this with the Pentium4 v Athlon warz. Where have you been?

  • John in PC

    With the exeption of the screen… isn’t the Tmo GS2 specs the same as the HTC Amaze/Ruby coming out same time?

  • John in PC

    With the exeption of the screen… isn’t the Tmo GS2 specs the same as the HTC Amaze/Ruby coming out same time?

  • Mark Caswell

    Who cares how fast your internet is if you only get 2gb before you are throttled? Watch Netflix, YouTube, Pandora… You get a giant straw of speed to sip from a dixie cup of data… Give me the faster processor… at least I can use that even if my data is capped.

    • Android00

      Nice reference lol. True

    • Anonymous

      Dead ringer bud, hit the nail on the head

  • Mark Caswell

    Who cares how fast your internet is if you only get 2gb before you are throttled? Watch Netflix, YouTube, Pandora… You get a giant straw of speed to sip from a dixie cup of data… Give me the faster processor… at least I can use that even if my data is capped.

  • Mark Caswell

    Who cares how fast your internet is if you only get 2gb before you are throttled? Watch Netflix, YouTube, Pandora… You get a giant straw of speed to sip from a dixie cup of data… Give me the faster processor… at least I can use that even if my data is capped.

  • Jason Vargas

    They need to make Better Batteries already!!!

  • Meagan

    OK lets say we have a mobile that gets 42mbps.  The end user uses their mobile on the train to/from work and while at work for netflix/pandora along with texting/browsing all day, tethering their laptop to download movies and music.

    The end user is throttled and goes into a uproar because the user has a unlimited data plan with throttling after 2gb.  The end user hit 2gb after 3 days of usual use.

    The faster the end user is throttled for the month, the faster the end user goes into a huff.  Even if its not the carriers fault, I can only imagine that the carrier will hear endless rants from users saying they want a class action law suit, whine whine whine…  So its really not in the favor of the carrier to make a 42mbps mobile.  It will just add fuel to the fire.

    • Bratty

      Huh? So because some people will hit data limits carriers should not offer faster devices? *confused*

      • Richardthegrape

        I’m with @6f2b8c9ebf98ee1b7f724fc5061b6a60:disqus  on this. The point she is saying is, the faster the data speeds, the faster we hit out data cap, hence slowing not only our data speeds but the functionality of the phone. Which is kinda annoying and bothersome. And I don’t mean lag, I don’t know what word would best describe it. But have you ever used a mytouch 4g after hitting you data cap and being throttled, the phone sucks. Call quality and text gets all messed up.

      • Richardthegrape

        I’m with @6f2b8c9ebf98ee1b7f724fc5061b6a60:disqus  on this. The point she is saying is, the faster the data speeds, the faster we hit out data cap, hence slowing not only our data speeds but the functionality of the phone. Which is kinda annoying and bothersome. And I don’t mean lag, I don’t know what word would best describe it. But have you ever used a mytouch 4g after hitting you data cap and being throttled, the phone sucks. Call quality and text gets all messed up.

      • Anonymous

        Dude…the idea of data caps is a farce….it always has been, it will be, until the FCC puts their foot down and removes them. 

      • Anonymous

        No she is saying that with faster data capabilities data caps will be hit faster (I know from experience to say that is true). She is saying that with hitting the cap faster people will realize that the plan is not so unlimited that they will cause riots of which wouldn’t be in tmos best interest. With these faster data speeds we at least need higher caps like at 20gbs in the least 15gbs

  • 007

    The most important thing is the iphone is not coming to tmobile…

    • Anonymous

      Lol, and if it does?

      • 007

        lol thats funny… dont worry bro cause its not coming…

      • Anonymous

        If the iPhone 5 comes to TMobile ……we’ll all be VERY surprised.

  • Anonymous

    Ppl blowing this way out of proportion…..gettin caught up in benchmarks and whatnot….. All i ask is that the phone runs well for everyday tasks and has dev support.

  • Anonymous

    Ppl blowing this way out of proportion…..gettin caught up in benchmarks and whatnot….. All i ask is that the phone runs well for everyday tasks and has dev support.

  • Anonymous

    Ppl blowing this way out of proportion…..gettin caught up in benchmarks and whatnot….. All i ask is that the phone runs well for everyday tasks and has dev support.

    • Bin

      Bingo!!!!!!

    • Anonymous

      Because one expects to get a GS2 when one buys one. The argument of “it’s a Sensation in GS2 clothes is fine”, or “it’s more phone than I would’ve cared about anyways” is a strawman argument.

      If you’re going to any other phone that meets your needs, go for it. If you buy a GS2, you’d expect to get a GS2, period.

      • Mjc9

        Sorry,but I want what I pay 4. If they say it’s supposed 2 be a 42 tmo speed then that’s what I want. Don’t sell me a $600.00 divice that doesn’t do what they say it’s supposed to do & it doesn’t.

      • Mjc9

        Sorry,but I want what I pay 4. If they say it’s supposed 2 be a 42 tmo speed then that’s what I want. Don’t sell me a $600.00 divice that doesn’t do what they say it’s supposed to do & it doesn’t.

        • k-mack

          You are pretty funny with your comment…its a theoretical upper limit speed. No operator has any device that hits the theoretical max. You don’t hear verizon talking about speeds because they just decided not to give it a number. Tmobile could have easily (and arguably should have) called the network version hspa+DoubleChannel and non would be the wiser. And then some of you guys wouldn’t be clamping on to the “42” phrase. You are making a sophomorish argument at best.

          If it had the exynos chip, I’m betting you and others would be saying “how could you not put a chip in it that takes full advantage of the netork” junk. They made the right choice, in my book. Last I checked Qualcomm is still the leader and this is their dual core 1.5 GHz chip!! Since when does a benchmark about a samsung made chip make it all of a sudden a better chip. You aren’t fooling me. Its plenty plenty fast and taking full advantage of the service is a much better route.

        • Marcelo_L

          Uh….because if you’re talking ( http://goo.gl/nrSrJ ) [ look at around 10:30 into the video ) quadrant, it’s pretty telling…And if you’re talking raw GPU power ( http://goo.gl/ZQWzs ), it’s pretty telling. Unless you don’t happen to like when folks like Anandtech do a comparison that SHOWS the Exynos is mopping the floor with other processors ( other than the A5, which has that PowerVR GPU, but that’s only found on the iPad 2. For now. ).

        • Anonymous

          Not really samsung has made their processors supporting at least 21mbps now and that would very much be good settlement. Qualcomm was only the leader before Samsung started making their awesome processors. Hummingbird and Exynos destroy the competition.

        • k-mack

          You are pretty funny with your comment…its a theoretical upper limit speed. No operator has any device that hits the theoretical max. You don’t hear verizon talking about speeds because they just decided not to give it a number. Tmobile could have easily (and arguably should have) called the network version hspa+DoubleChannel and non would be the wiser. And then some of you guys wouldn’t be clamping on to the “42” phrase. You are making a sophomorish argument at best.

          If it had the exynos chip, I’m betting you and others would be saying “how could you not put a chip in it that takes full advantage of the netork” junk. They made the right choice, in my book. Last I checked Qualcomm is still the leader and this is their dual core 1.5 GHz chip!! Since when does a benchmark about a samsung made chip make it all of a sudden a better chip. You aren’t fooling me. Its plenty plenty fast and taking full advantage of the service is a much better route.

        • Anonymous

          It sounds like you’re arguing for a new fancy “laptop” where you don’t care if they charge you Core i7 prices (when you’re only getting a Core2Duo) as long as the gigabit WiFi on it works over a cable modem connection.

    • Anonymous

      It won’t get dev support because all the hardcore tech geeks and devs will skip this knowing the prime is around the corner and knowing the CPU/GPU in this thing sucks a**. Trust me this device is a fail without Exynos.

    • Anonymous

      It won’t get dev support because all the hardcore tech geeks and devs will skip this knowing the prime is around the corner and knowing the CPU/GPU in this thing sucks a**. Trust me this device is a fail without Exynos.

  • Well I look at it like this Samsungs 21mbps hummingbird processor had good speed and performance actually seen it hit 13mbps as  far as qualcomms 14mbps I get nowhere over 4mbps so yes I would prefer Exynos but I’ll wait  to see what speed is averaged before making judgement. So long as its as powerful as exynos an gets close to the speeds it claims I will be okay with it otherwise if I buy it and its not as good then Im a return it.

    • Marcelo_L

      Quadrant isn’t the benchmark it’s cracked up to be anymore dude……look at the SGSII with Exynos ( at 1Ghz ), from back in April……(http://goo.gl/d01bE). And to give you another idea, here it is against the Sensation from back in June ( http://goo.gl/nrSrJ ).

  • Unbelievable ,I just got a $829.99 iPad2 for only $103.37 and my mom got a $1499.99 HDTV for only $251.92, they are both coming with USPS tomorrow. I would be an idiot to ever pay full retail prices at places like Walmart or Bestbuy. I sold a 37″ HDTV to my boss for $600 that I only paid $78.24 for. I use flaturl.com/qa

    • Anonymous

      Frack off a$$hole

  • Lewisealy

    But do u guys remember when tmonews posted some pictures of the samsung hercules quadrant scores…. those were pretty impressive if u ask me … http://dnewandroidapps.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Samsung-hercules-release-date.png

  • Anonymous

    It’s fine if T-Mobile wants a different processor so they can brag about 42Mbps nonsense, but do not call a Crapdragon powered device a GSII it’s pure fraud. They should’ve called it the T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Fail

    • tbyrne

      But it’s not going to fail! T-Mobile’s going to sell the Galaxy 2II like wildfire. It no doubt will be the best selling phone to date for them. You and I both know that. C’mon, look at yourself in the mirror. It’s going to be O.K!

  • Anonymous

    It’s fine if T-Mobile wants a different processor so they can brag about 42Mbps nonsense, but do not call a Crapdragon powered device a GSII it’s pure fraud. They should’ve called it the T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Fail

  • Robert S.

    Will this SGS2-Lite run Flash apps? I don’t have to watch 1080p streaming Netflix video (can’t imagine staring at a small TV screen watching a movie for two-plus hours, but whatever), but if it can run most of the Flash sites, that’s good enough for me. Beyond that, does it have an FM radio receiver (for a few stations that aren’t streaming)? 

    Then again, if it will do all this, will the HTC Sensation do the same thing? 

    If it will, then maybe all I need is all I need, and trendy isn’t so vital.

  • Answering this question should come down to your usage. If you spend more time doing things that require faster Internet speeds like streaming video, playing online games, and surfing the web, then the Snapdragon will probably suffice as it’ll provide at least satisfactory processing power AND the fast data speeds. But, if you prefer to run lots of apps, multitask, and play games where you want high frame rates instead of faster data, then the Exynos will be the better choice. Id personally go Exynos since I want to be able to play games at high frame rates and watch flash videos flawlessly online

    • Anonymous

      Dude…..did you not miss the article about how folks PREFER to use native apps locally on their Android phone over utilizing the web or web apps ?

      • Setzer715

        Idiot

      • Rpwbass

        Dude, get a life. Don’t you have anything better to do than flame every single last person who happens to disagree with you? FFS man. Let it go. 

  • J. Williams

    I would rather have faster data speeds…

    • Anonymous

      You really think you’re going to get faster data speeds in anywhere but a few pockets of the country ( and even then, spottily )…..how big WAS that glass of cool aid you just swallowed ?

      • J. Williams

        Your response is…well…you read what you typed, and tell me what you think.

        • Anonymous

          It was to the point. If you want to say harsh, ok, I’ll grant you that. But unless you travel a lot, or are in touch with people who do, and on the same network, and get to see for yourself, just how spotty the performance of this ( and other networks are ), then when you make a statement about performance, it has to be kept in context. 

          Everyone talks about wanting faster data speeds, but the network could be 100Mbps ( HSPA+ has a theoretical upper limit of 680 MBps with all the bells and whistles ), but if that speed is only good for 1sq mile do you really think “network speed performance” is going to be what you care about ?

          If you felt stomped on, hey, I’m sorry, really, but look at it from the perspective that if you know you’re not going to get anywhere near the performance that’s touted, then you should expect that your user experience performance shouldn’t be gated by it either.

        • Setzer715

          Idiot

        • J. Williams

          Well, the reason I would overlook what you are saying is because where I am, speeds are fast!!! I know that there will not be super fast speed all over, but in due time there could be.

          So when you post silly comments like yours, it’s a matter of chosing to respond…or over look it. I made a realistic comment, YOURS…not so much. But hey that is you, again. I make a choice to ignore immature comments, that are just looking to cause an arguement.

        • Anonymous

          You’re welcome to your opinion, J. Then again, calling anyone’s sarcasm immature is a sign of just that. You can ignore what I’m saying, it’s your right. Arguing out differing points of view is what democracy is all about. Now if you choose to ignore differing points of view, as uncomfortable as some of them might make us, well….that’s immature.

          Enjoy the speeds you’ve got, don’t diminish others who make speak up because theirs aren’t. 

          As for “in due time there could be”. Most folks don’t realize that TMo had EDGE before AT&T had rolled theirs out in most of the country. TMo had the advantage in it’s hands, it let it slip away. As the old adage goes, “If not now, when. If not we, who.”. We can only hope that either the TMo management in Germany finally decide to IPO TMo USA, in which case, we’ll have a real contest on our hands. Or, that, in fact, the contract with AT&T wasn’t so riddled with loopholes that if the FCC doesn’t approve the buy out, that TMo can get a nice little payout in their war chest, and thereby continue to improve their service. 

        • J. Williams

          OMG. lol Please let it go, you are not going to get anywhere. You will be just fine. Next time if you are going comment, keep the immature messages to yourself. Creates less drama, that’s all I’m saying. have a good one..

        • Anonymous

          You’re welcome to your opinion, J. Then again, calling anyone’s sarcasm immature is a sign of just that. You can ignore what I’m saying, it’s your right. Arguing out differing points of view is what democracy is all about. Now if you choose to ignore differing points of view, as uncomfortable as some of them might make us, well….that’s immature.

          Enjoy the speeds you’ve got, don’t diminish others who make speak up because theirs aren’t. 

          As for “in due time there could be”. Most folks don’t realize that TMo had EDGE before AT&T had rolled theirs out in most of the country. TMo had the advantage in it’s hands, it let it slip away. As the old adage goes, “If not now, when. If not we, who.”. We can only hope that either the TMo management in Germany finally decide to IPO TMo USA, in which case, we’ll have a real contest on our hands. Or, that, in fact, the contract with AT&T wasn’t so riddled with loopholes that if the FCC doesn’t approve the buy out, that TMo can get a nice little payout in their war chest, and thereby continue to improve their service. 

        • Guest

          LMFAO!!!!!!!

      • Anonymous

        on my sk4g I had no less than 8mbps and I have seen it hit 13’s and 14mbps.

        • Anonymous

          Repeating myself….if you’re in one of those areas that have received unusually good backhaul support, that’s great. That notwithstanding, the vast majority of the country don’t enjoy that same level of service.

        • Setzer715

          Idiot

        • Anonymous

          Oh really? have you lived in all of the major cities to say that because im sure you haven’t.

      • Setzer715

        Idiot

    • Anonymous

      You really think you’re going to get faster data speeds in anywhere but a few pockets of the country ( and even then, spottily )…..how big WAS that glass of cool aid you just swallowed ?

  • The Architect(of the Matrix)

    Imho the ends do not justify the means..

    I think Tmobile may have (inadvertently?) Alienated the die hard sgs2 fans who followed this device well before it’s debut overseas, and patiently waited for it to arrive state side(carrier delays, customizations, bloatware and all) , Longing to enjoy an orgy of exynos, Mali, and samoled +..

    but what do i know?!.. I’m just a guy ranting on a blog site(waiting to get flamed?).. lol

  • PhilB33

    Dual core is overrated. Just give me an android with a 1.5 ghz processor, that lasts for the entire day.

  • Anonymous

    I wonder if the browser will be fully GPU accelerated like it is for the Exynos or will the experience be like a slightly faster sensation.

  • Anonymous

    I wonder if the browser will be fully GPU accelerated like it is for the Exynos or will the experience be like a slightly faster sensation.

    • Anonymous

      Accelerated is a function of the OS..not the browser specifically. If the OS renders through the GPU rather than the processer…that’s what it means to be “Graphics Accelerated”. 

      With every OS prior to Gingerbread, the primary rendering in the OS has been through the processor. If an application chose to utizilize the OpenGL support in the kernel for rendering, then it gets routed through the GPU. Browsers ( at least from what I know of Dolphin and the standard browser ) do NOT render their text using OpenGL for “standard” HTML page rendering.

      This would apply to both the Exynos and the Snapdragon AQP 8060…regardless of processor clock speed.

    • Anonymous

      Accelerated is a function of the OS..not the browser specifically. If the OS renders through the GPU rather than the processer…that’s what it means to be “Graphics Accelerated”. 

      With every OS prior to Gingerbread, the primary rendering in the OS has been through the processor. If an application chose to utizilize the OpenGL support in the kernel for rendering, then it gets routed through the GPU. Browsers ( at least from what I know of Dolphin and the standard browser ) do NOT render their text using OpenGL for “standard” HTML page rendering.

      This would apply to both the Exynos and the Snapdragon AQP 8060…regardless of processor clock speed.

      • Setzer715

        Idiot

      • Guest

        Excellent Answer!

        There are still way too many people that believes the opposite, and sold on the idea of it being CPU/GPU specific feature, which is not

      • Anonymous

        Wrong, samsung optimized the mali gpu and exynos cpu for gpu accelerated browsing, so unless samsung optimizes the drivers for the adreno and crapdragon CPU (which I doubt they’d invest the time and money all over again) the tmo gs2 won’t have it. Which would be another fail against this phone.

    • Anonymous

      Accelerated is a function of the OS..not the browser specifically. If the OS renders through the GPU rather than the processer…that’s what it means to be “Graphics Accelerated”. 

      With every OS prior to Gingerbread, the primary rendering in the OS has been through the processor. If an application chose to utizilize the OpenGL support in the kernel for rendering, then it gets routed through the GPU. Browsers ( at least from what I know of Dolphin and the standard browser ) do NOT render their text using OpenGL for “standard” HTML page rendering.

      This would apply to both the Exynos and the Snapdragon AQP 8060…regardless of processor clock speed.

  • Some guy

    Look.. I work for T-Mobile.. and I would have to agree with the majority of you posting. The data cap is a terrible thing. But if T-Mobile didn’t do that.. we would have a network like Sprint does.. which isn’t a network for data at all. With that said.. I would much rather have the processor made by Samsung. But.. for advertising needs.. T-Mobile went the best route. Will there be a lot of complaints? Of course.. there always is.

    • Anonymous

      There I have to disagree with you. What makes you think your network is really ( other than a few scattered pockets around the country ) that much faster than Sprint ? Not only are there times I get speeds in the low Kbps, but times I don’t get much more than 1~1.2/3 Mbps. You think that’s really that fast that caps to haul your A__ down to EDGE is justifiable.

      If TMo could COMPLETELY assure me that my first 2Gb were ALWAYS at HSPA+ speeds, then I might be more inclined to swallow the malarkey. But you and I both KNOW that that’s just not the case. 

      So please don’t give me this thing about HAVING to cap the data usage. When there was no data usage, and before Android blew up, the network performance wasn’t that great to begin with.

      Why am I with TMo ? Because I’m cheap ( and because MetroPCS and the like have even worse coverage ), but do I think I’m getting my money’s worth ? Of course NOT. When other carriers had EVDO and UMTS, TMo was not only STILL EDGING it at most…but the EDGE speeds that it supported were for all practical purposes no better than GPRS. I can force my phone into GPRS, and then switch to EDGE, and I’ll get 0 ( that’s a ZERO for those with shady eyesight ) performance difference in data transfer rates on TMo. C’mon…don’t go drinking the marketing cool aid.

      • Setzer715

        Idiot

  • Frigadroid

    What’s more important to me is the best possible processor on the market and most up to date operating system. I look at it like this for the money why wouldn’t you want the best? Besides the great display the vibrant was a let down which makes it easy for me to pass on the latest samsung tmobile frankenphone collaboration.

  • Tanvirul

    this is basically a sensation…. and after overclocking my sensation to 1.7 ghz and putting on custom roms, i prefer it to anything, i get 3 days of battery life and close to 4000 benchmark score

    • Tanvirul

      2 days* not 3

      • Anonymous

        A Sensation with a “slightly” bigger ( and Super AMOLED, unless they decided to change that too ) screen.

        • Setzer715

          Idiot

    • Guest

      Thank you! this is exactly what i’m talking about
      it’s a bigger, better, and meaner Sensation
      it’s basically a Sensation v2.0 :D

    • Aoooga

      how is your sensation so sensational?

  • Sh

    So at that amazing speed, we will cap our data limit in 22 seconds!!!!

  • Anonymous

    I prefer faster data, because i don’t play games with my phone,i use it to make calls, txt, social updates, work and ehm *cough*tether my ipad2*cough*, so it’s a win for me

    • Anonymous

      You GO, Laciel……you…um….rock that iPad2 on TMo….

  • It’s interesting that so many people are fixated on benchmark performance instead of real-world usage. I have a G2x and a Thunderbolt in front of me. Certainly the G2x is faster in terms of raw performance and this can be seen when scrolling through screens, multitasking, gaming, etc. That said, there are a lot of instances when the Thunderbolt feels faster even though it only has a single-core processor that’s dated. The faster connection speed of LTE makes a lot of Internet-based tasks faster. I would bet that a lot of tasks will feel faster on the HSPA+ 42 Galaxy S II than an original Galaxy S II simply because of the faster connection.

    Obviously it depends on how you use your phone, but if your common tasks touch the Internet then you’ll benefit from HSPA+ 42.

  • Anonymous

    Dara….are trying to say “haters gonna hate” ? If you mind the sarcasm, I’ll point you to the first ammendment. If you don’t like what I’m saying, and mind you, I’ve yet to see anyone disprove what I’m saying, then don’t listen ( or read in this case .

    I don’t carry a grudge against Samsung, and if it isn’t apparent already…I’ll make it perfectly clear. I’ve been with TMo for 12 years, probably will stay (unless AT&T takes them over ). I pay my bill, just like everyone else. I use my phone when I’m out on the water ( thereby disproving the statement I don’t get out much ), all over SoFla. I wouldn’t be able to details the dead spots in coverage to TMo service, if I didn’t. Funny you say I hate the service ( but I go out of my way to report to them where there’s issues with the service quality ). 

    Do you always think that a person is a “Nick Burns” when you hear someone put things as clear as possible ? Of course the SNL pardody is just that “an over-exaggeration of a stereotype”. 

    So go ahead and say what want. If people didn’t speak up ( and sometimes brashly ) when they think something’s being done wrong, and could be done better….things wouldn’t get better for all of us. Have a nice day. No, really, go out and do something fun.

    • Setzer715

      Idiot

  • Anonymous

    Im not talking about quadrant but the places it needs to excel in quadrant for me are the frame rates for 2d and 3d. Im actually talking about download speeds I had a Nexus S and loved it the speeds were good as it always got in the 6’s and that maxes out at 7.2 but no 4g sucked

    • Anonymous

      Well, if you’d looked at the benchmarks you’d have seen that the Adreno 220 doesn’t hold a candle to the Mali400 in the Exynos. 

      • Setzer715

        Idiot

    • Anonymous

      Well, if you’d looked at the benchmarks you’d have seen that the Adreno 220 doesn’t hold a candle to the Mali400 in the Exynos. 

  • Anonymous

    A5 is made by samsung though

    • Anonymous

      Ehhh…no it’s not. The A5 and the Hummingbird shared portions of the same Cortex A9 CPU core…But the A5, I can assure you, is not manufactured or made in any part, by Samsung.

      • souggie

        Ummm….you may want to google that and go to samsungs website before you say that…the A5 was developed by Samsung….make sure you check your facts before you speak

        • souggie

          Sorry, apple’s site I meant to say

        • Anonymous

          They developed the CORE in conjunction PA, Not the GPU. Then Apple bought PA.

  • Setzer715

    I think my 12 year old wines less they the people in this forum.  If you don’t like the phone, DON’T BUY IT.

    • This is the only warning I’ll provide, don’t post “idiot” 12 times.

      • Idiot

        I was simply replying to the guy that had harsh replies to EVERYONE in here but if  you have favorites, so be it.  Guess I’m the idiot in that aspect.

  • Setzer715

    I’m going to laugh when this thing comes out, get’s optimized the the original SGSII and is FASTER!!!

  • Setzer715

    Idiot

  • ThatGuyDerp

    whichever plays youjizz flash movies the best. ha

  • ThatGuyDerp

    whichever plays youjizz flash movies the best. ha

  • Guest

    I’ll buy the phone regardless

    There are no better choices on the 1700 2100 bands

    All this talk about CPU is pointless unless you are willing to switch network to use the regular SGS2

    Think about it, if you have an unlimited data plan for like $20, while on other networks you are stuck paying like $60 a month for non unlimited data, are you willing to move to another network just so you can have a phone with a “better” CPU?

    i’ll rather have unlimited all years long, and spend the money on new phone upgrades, instead of the opposite ;)

  • is the back metal? im really tired of their of plastic backs

  • Anonymous

    ,. owned
    I just got a $829.99 iPad2 for only $103.37 and my mom got a $1499.99 HTV for only $251.92, they are both coming tomorrow. I would be an idiot to ever pay full retail prîces at places like Walmart or Bestbuy. I sold a 37″ HTV to my boss for $600 that I only paid $78.24 for.
    I use EgoWïn.com

  • mistermystery

    Here is the phone if anyone is interested. Canadian carrier Telus just announced it ahead of T-Mobile.

    http://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/samsung_galaxy_s_II_x/index.shtml

  • Hopeful But Frustrated

    Hopefully, the decision to pull the premiere CPU from this hybrid phone will result in a much lower off-contract price to compensate for the fact that it is a crippled version of the phone the rest of the *world* has or will be getting.

  • Guest

    Sweet!!!!!!!!!! now i don’t need to go to USA to buy it from T-mobiles

  • Don

    I really dont care to much for benchmark scores and glorified cpus. I just want an android phone that is compatible with the apps i use. Skype being one of them. The sprint version doesnt even have video calling updated yet. I am tired of playing the waiting game for apps to work the way they were designed to.

  • Drew

    What is going on with this device..?? Nothing has been mentioned as to why it didn’t get the “hands on” like the 2 other carriers. I would like to know also why the battery cover hasn’t been shown besides the one and only pic and why it’s different from the others?? I hope they (Samsung) are fixing it because if that’s what it’s going to look like, I don’t even want one now… Has anyone got any insight about this??

  • Anonymous

    always thought the late the item comes the better it is but not in this situation but turned out the opposite.T-Mobile’s decision sucks.

  • Anonymous

    always thought the late the item comes the better it is but not in this situation but turned out the opposite.T-Mobile’s decision sucks.

  • k-mack

    at jb & marc l,

    right.  qualcomm is done with chips and doesn’t plan to do anything better in the future…  i didn’t say that the exynos wasn’t fast.  in fact I agreed that it might have scored better in those tests.  what I’m saying is that it doesn’t fully equate to the user experience one for one.  what does equate is how long it takes you to download, upload, stream from your phone.  that you will notice will be improved with this chip and I am glad they went that route, personally.

  • Anonymous

    Best overall processor is what I want in the phone. A consistent data signal blanketing my service area is what I want from my carrier.

  • Calvin

    So I just read the product brief of the snapdragon. It mentions that it can handle a camera with 16 mp, how awesome would that be if the T-mobile version had one! I know the picture above says 8 but it’s not confirmed that this is the official back cover.

    On another note, don’t all these snapdragon bashers sound just like Iphone “fanboys” bashing android? As multiple people have already stated: lets wait for this phone to come out and be tested, before claiming it as crap!

  • Angarma1

    No phone is perfect, all I’m seeing is the foolish ambition to have the latest and fastest device, a foolish endevour, because companies are manipulating the public as the did a decade ago with the computer market. They play with peoples desire for the lastest, a need they created by continually upgrading devices, so you wiil always have a next object of desire, if you think like that, you’ll never achieve your desires, you’ll fail always. ” I don’t buy this because I’m expecting that” know what? you’ll never get”that”.

  • I may be jaded … I’ve gone through 2 Galaxy S’s  in 2 months … I’ve given up. Each one has had different issues and some similar. The major one is the fact that the phone restarts at random. The only app that I have running in the background is Lookout–removed and it didn’t change–and my phone still crashed. 

    The one item that I would like to see fixed–if I were to purchase the newer phone–is stability. My phone becomes unresponsive after a simple task such as making a phone call or using the built-in web browser–it will take about a minute or two to return to normal or in few instances I’ve had to pull the battery out.

    I like android; but if stability isn’t addressed I’m switching to an iPhone.

  • TYLERDERK

    My Galaxy s 2   is a great phone i do a lot with it and never had any problems,
    battery last long enough and my T-mobile service is good ,,  and yes i will get the new one as soon as it comes out and give my daughter this one..

  • Euclidsbrother

    My main interest is in the camera. I ready to buy either the mytouch slide 4g or sensation 4g as soon as either one is free again. I like the no shutter lag feature of those. If this has that feature, then I’d definately be interested.

    • Gilla87

      I’m more interested in the camera as well but in a different light.. I’m more hoping that the audio recording on the video will be good.. So far it seems the iPhone 4 is the only phone that doesn’t sound distorted in a night club setting.. If I knew of any other phone that can match the quality I would trade this thing towards it I’m more into android than iOS

    • Mastrorj

      sensation camera sux, i have it and my brother vibrant at 5mp takes better pics

  • Guest

    Positive view.

    For those that are familiar with samsung phones based on exynos you might or might have not noticed the weak PHONE reception on the AWS bands, for example Nexus S, Vibrant, and other from the Galaxy family

    Yet phones from other manufactures say Motorola or LG, they have better reception in the same spots when the Samsung phones has poor reception.

    The idea of having a SmartPHONE is to be able to use it as a PHONE in case of emergency and any kind of regular business that needs to be conducted via a phone.

    If the whole idea of having a smartphone is to simply use it as a portable tablet / net book, then there’s no point in discussing about the CPU performance at all.

    Now with the new change of the new Qualcommn chipset, I’m expecting to see better reception in places where normally the Nexus S fails.

    very normal examples, cotsco, walmart, homedepot, schools, office buildings, malls, etc…

    that pretty much sums up my experiences with all the Nexus S / Galaxy line of phones have very poor reception unless you are outdoor or next to a window / door at the mall/office

    • Jonesjr Alexander

      You are so correct my vibrant has poor reception in my house when outside I’m in 3g

    • Anonymous

      The nexus s has a hummingbird processor not exynos so what are you saying? The only phones with the exynos are the Samsung galaxy s 2 series minus the T-mobile version.

  • Mastrorj

    well i guess time for me to weigh in. The SGS2 is not unibody, meaning better connectivity+ Now i can play DIVIX files again+ Stable and better camera+My coverage will hopefully get better bc on my sensation it drops out like crazy, esp driving home on rt63 where all of a sudden my service drops out since I’ve had the sensation. Oh i can now connect to blue tooth properly. If tmobile doesn’t let me out of my contract bc of all my other issues ill get this phone. Sprint just has better coverage FOR ME where i need it in parts of NY and CT….or do we wait for the NEXUS PRIME?????

  • Mastrorj

    well i guess time for me to weigh in. The SGS2 is not unibody, meaning better connectivity+ Now i can play DIVIX files again+ Stable and better camera+My coverage will hopefully get better bc on my sensation it drops out like crazy, esp driving home on rt63 where all of a sudden my service drops out since I’ve had the sensation. Oh i can now connect to blue tooth properly. If tmobile doesn’t let me out of my contract bc of all my other issues ill get this phone. Sprint just has better coverage FOR ME where i need it in parts of NY and CT….or do we wait for the NEXUS PRIME?????

  • E_holland3

    Which galaxy is better and what is the difference for t-mobile, the galaxy I or II??

  • sEoUlMaN

    I just want the Exchange Activesync to do more than 1 month of email and I want to search my emails.  Yes I know I can do Gmail but my office email is not on gmail.

  • Mrcoolgarcia

    so all thhis new this and new that , but have you guys forgot how lame samsung is to update software, and the gps problems whti vribant and all the other phones samsung didnt care , why are we even considering a phone wit no suport from its manufaturere, i prefer htc or moto, just my 2 cents in to this