T-Mobile Hopes To Encourage Even More Plus Customers To Switch To Value Plans

Beginning September 1st T-Mobile is going to begin suggesting to Even More Plus customers to make a move onto the Value Plans. With the hope of providing the Value Plan benefits as an enticement our attention is directed toward the area we have highlighted in red that indicates Value Plan customers will be able to keep their rate plans when an AT&T deal completes. Are we to understand that Even More Plus customers would not be allowed to keep their current rate plan selections should an AT&T deal complete? Would Even More Plus customers be “forced” into changing their plan to a currently offered AT&T option?

It’s an interesting “benefit” for T-Mobile to provide as a way of enticing customers over and we hope that we are reading this improperly and that EM+ customers would be allowed to keep their rate plans post-AT&T deal. Of course that is what we hope except that doesn’t seem to be the case according to this screenshot. What do you think Even More Plus customers, are the Value Plans enticing? Would you pick one up in order to lock one in prior to an AT&T deal completion?

 

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  • Mmmaxheadroom

    Of course em+ would have to go on at&t plan they are not on contract. From all I have read only current contract customers will keep their rate plan. No contract no grandfathered deal.

  • LJPro1

    Not a plus for me, if my rates change I’ll be heading to another provider….. 

    • Anonymous

      Exactly, Sprint if they touch EM+ rates. No contract lock-in death-spiral. I’m quite aware that AT&T only wants T-Mobile’s spectrum and would rather dump ALL of T-mobile subs instead.

    • Anonymous

      Exactly, Sprint if they touch EM+ rates. No contract lock-in death-spiral. I’m quite aware that AT&T only wants T-Mobile’s spectrum and would rather dump ALL of T-mobile subs instead.

  • umaluver

    This is just a scam. I’ll be keeping my EM+ plan till the day I die. You just have to know how to talk to these people. I know people that still use their Cingular talk and text plans. 

    • Anonymous

      Do you have any tips on what specifically to say (if the AT&T deal goes through, and AT&T tries to cancel EM+ on us)? I’d be interested to know, as I don’t want to lose EM+ myself — thx.

    • Anonymous

      Do you have any tips on what specifically to say (if the AT&T deal goes through, and AT&T tries to cancel EM+ on us)? I’d be interested to know, as I don’t want to lose EM+ myself — thx.

    • Anonymous

      Do you have any tips on what specifically to say (if the AT&T deal goes through, and AT&T tries to cancel EM+ on us)? I’d be interested to know, as I don’t want to lose EM+ myself — thx.

    • Guest

      No more EIP if you dont change

    • Anonymous

      Well, I hope that the AT&T plan doesn’t go through, for your sake.

      I thought the EM+ plan didn’t have a contract, so there isn’t anything to be grandfathered in if the merger goes through.

    • Anonymous

      Well, I hope that the AT&T plan doesn’t go through, for your sake.

      I thought the EM+ plan didn’t have a contract, so there isn’t anything to be grandfathered in if the merger goes through.

  • I hate to say it but if the Acquisition “does” go through and I loose my Unlimited Loyalty plan I’ve had for so long, I’m picking up and leaving for Verizon that same day.  I love my T-Mobile, its so difficult to see all of this happening…. = /

    • Anonymous

       Yep I have the HTC Sensation with old old EMP plan, 1000min and unlimited text and web (5gb not 2gb) for $69.99. Im not under contract and never will be. Im just waitin on VZ to Release the HTC Vigor and I will be ghost!

    • Anonymous

       Yep I have the HTC Sensation with old old EMP plan, 1000min and unlimited text and web (5gb not 2gb) for $69.99. Im not under contract and never will be. Im just waitin on VZ to Release the HTC Vigor and I will be ghost!

      • Anonymous

        Sad, but true. Got the same plan.

        Out of the two high-priced evils (i.e., Verizon, and AT&T), at least you can use a Verizon phone for more than a few minutes at a time. Eff AT&T. They’ve done a great job at ruining a great American brand.

      • Anonymous

        Sad, but true. Got the same plan.

        Out of the two high-priced evils (i.e., Verizon, and AT&T), at least you can use a Verizon phone for more than a few minutes at a time. Eff AT&T. They’ve done a great job at ruining a great American brand.

      • Anonymous

        Sad, but true. Got the same plan.

        Out of the two high-priced evils (i.e., Verizon, and AT&T), at least you can use a Verizon phone for more than a few minutes at a time. Eff AT&T. They’ve done a great job at ruining a great American brand.

      • Anonymous

        Sad, but true. Got the same plan.

        Out of the two high-priced evils (i.e., Verizon, and AT&T), at least you can use a Verizon phone for more than a few minutes at a time. Eff AT&T. They’ve done a great job at ruining a great American brand.

  • I hate to say it but if the Acquisition “does” go through and I loose my Unlimited Loyalty plan I’ve had for so long, I’m picking up and leaving for Verizon that same day.  I love my T-Mobile, its so difficult to see all of this happening…. = /

  • I hate to say it but if the Acquisition “does” go through and I loose my Unlimited Loyalty plan I’ve had for so long, I’m picking up and leaving for Verizon that same day.  I love my T-Mobile, its so difficult to see all of this happening…. = /

  • Fishcakes67

    What about that customers that have a grandfathered FAVE FIVE plan?

    • Guest

      If you are in contract it will never be changed

  • Bert

    When the merger goes through im gone, T-mobile sh*ts on their customers more and more these days till it eventually they becomes the piece of sh*t company people know as AT&T.

  • Bert

    When the merger goes through im gone, T-mobile sh*ts on their customers more and more these days till it eventually they becomes the piece of sh*t company people know as AT&T.

  • Bert

    When the merger goes through im gone, T-mobile sh*ts on their customers more and more these days till it eventually they becomes the piece of sh*t company people know as AT&T.

  • Navy

    I actually switched today not knowing about this at all, i got the Unlimited Everything with my 10GB that i wanted, i got tired of stopping at 4.98 Gb’s lol, and only using wifi. I have been looking at this for a while, and the value plans do save more money unless your like me and wanted 10GB, overall i think the EIP21 and the Value Plans are a good idea. I was one of the first to Criticize tmobile for ridiculous plans. And i did lock my self into a 2 Year Contract, i do not want to be with AT&T, but this way im locked in if am not and AT&T Fu*k’s my plan up, ill leave. Fu*k there ETF, they can charge me all they want. And I’ll be one of the first picking up my Samsung Hercules at a discounted price, or i may just pay full price for the hell of it, Since it seems our beloved Nexus is destined for Big RED. :( Anyways thanks for the great site david, Keep up the work. 

    • netlander

      I too use a lot of data. What is the name of your plan with the 10G data? How much do you pay monthly?

  • Of course they want to lock you down so you won’t go running if big blue comes and takes over. AT&T just plain sucks. Did you know if you’re an AT&T subscriber and decide to hook up a smartphone phone if it’s used, you MUST get a data plan? It’s in their terms and conditions which I won’t sign if the takeover occurs.

  • Materially Adverse

    I hope AT&T does try to change my plan.  I’ll call materially adverse so fast their little (pin)heads will spin.

  • ChanelFlowers

    This is good info. At first I thought I had to choose one of the new plans. I have the all unlimited now and love it. I use about 3000 mins/ 2000 text a month with well over 10GB of data. I didn’t new a new plan that fits my needs. Which is why I used to have two lines to compensate for my usage until the EM+ plan.

    If the merge goes through, I’m switching over to Verizon. I only have my iPhone with T-Mobile because I’ve had my account with them for years. But I would get a company discount if I do switch over to Verizon iPhone.

  • DetroitTechnoFan

    No thanks! I’m keeping EM+ specifically BECAUSE I can bail when I like. I refuse to go to a company who charges $45 for the ability to tether my phone to my PC.

    • Jhollin1138

      I agree. I’ll keep my EM+ for now and decided which carrier to keep/switch after the merger. Heck, there isn’t even any indication if the merger is even going to be allowed.

    • Jhollin1138

      I agree. I’ll keep my EM+ for now and decided which carrier to keep/switch after the merger. Heck, there isn’t even any indication if the merger is even going to be allowed.

  • DetroitTechnoFan

    No thanks! I’m keeping EM+ specifically BECAUSE I can bail when I like. I refuse to go to a company who charges $45 for the ability to tether my phone to my PC.

  • yea the only thing they dont tell is $400 charge to change your plan to this

    • Rayen321

      Not if you are off contract.

      • Tmobile-old-Red

        Not off contract as long as you’re 18+ months on contract you can switch without a migration fee. —

    • Rayen321

      Not if you are off contract.

    • Dylans_angel_2007

      as long as you have 6 months or less in your contract there is no migration fee to switch to value plans.  the migration fee is tiered depending on how many days you have left in contract. it ranges from $50 up to $200 per line 

  • Heck no, I’m not switching.  This is the only plan that allows me to keep my unlimited WiFi calling.  I’m switching if they try to force me to move over their “better” plan.  If this new Value Plan was better I would’ve switched a long time ago.

  • Heck no, I’m not switching.  This is the only plan that allows me to keep my unlimited WiFi calling.  I’m switching if they try to force me to move over their “better” plan.  If this new Value Plan was better I would’ve switched a long time ago.

    • Rayen321

      you get free wifi calling with a data plan.

    • Rayen321

      you get free wifi calling with a data plan.

      • Guest

        yes, but the feature makes the wifi calls unlimited (not taking form anytime mins)

    • Dylans_angel_2007

      all current rate plans have free wifi calling available. its not advertised but yes, there is a feature that can be added at no cost to any of the current postpaid, classic and value plans, for free unlimited wifi calling.

  • Heck no, I’m not switching.  This is the only plan that allows me to keep my unlimited WiFi calling.  I’m switching if they try to force me to move over their “better” plan.  If this new Value Plan was better I would’ve switched a long time ago.

  • God

    I’ve been saying this for months. A shame you guys didn’t ever actually READ what ATT said… They clearly stated many times that they wont make any changes to contract customers. When they specified contract customers, that pretty obviously means that changes have always been in store for EM+ customers.

  • God

    I’ve been saying this for months. A shame you guys didn’t ever actually READ what ATT said… They clearly stated many times that they wont make any changes to contract customers. When they specified contract customers, that pretty obviously means that changes have always been in store for EM+ customers.

  • God

    I’ve been saying this for months. A shame you guys didn’t ever actually READ what ATT said… They clearly stated many times that they wont make any changes to contract customers. When they specified contract customers, that pretty obviously means that changes have always been in store for EM+ customers.

  • ProudTmoLawyer

    As is the case with any merger, the acquiring company assumes all signed contracts and is legally liable to honor said contracts. EM+ rate plans are non contractual agreements that can be changed at will by both the service provider and/or customer. AT&T does not currently offer non contractual rate plans outside of its prepaid portfolio; if EM+ customers wish to keep their low MRC they need to switch to Value Plans. T-Mobile is systematically trying to convert all its non traditional customers to post paid contracts. Aside from moving EM+ customers to Value Plans they are allowing they are allowing all Flex Pay customers with 6months+ tenure to switch to traditional post paid plans. Again, eliminating all non traditional customers to fit the AT&T mold, and essentially doing AT&Ts dirty work before the deal is finalized.

  • They can hope all they want. Two year contract, possibly locked to AT&T in the process, with no cheap handset to make up for the deal = NON STARTER.

  • funhiguy

    Don’t switch plans, I just did and got a plan that was worse and more expensive, they don’t tell you that the grandfathered plan that you were in would be void and you can’t go back if you change your mind.  I really got messed up my tmo

    • Dylans_angel_2007

      considering you have to agree to the 2 year contract through the automated system, and that is part of the script the automated system reads to you, yes, you were told about the grandfathered rate plan no longer being available. next time listen to the recording that is played for you.

    • Dylans_angel_2007

      considering you have to agree to the 2 year contract through the automated system, and that is part of the script the automated system reads to you, yes, you were told about the grandfathered rate plan no longer being available. next time listen to the recording that is played for you.

    • jarjon76

      T-Mobile didn’t screw you, you screwed yourself by not paying attention to the terms of the contract you agreed to. Put away the victim card, please.

  • my choice is simple and easy, let me change to VALUE PLAN without the $1000 migration fee for my 5 lines, if not let me cancel my plan without ETF when AT&T buys tmobile.

    • jarjon76

      In other words you don’t want to do what you agreed to when you signed your contract. Another “want, want, want” consumer.

    • jarjon76

      In other words you don’t want to do what you agreed to when you signed your contract. Another “want, want, want” consumer.

    • jarjon76

      In other words you don’t want to do what you agreed to when you signed your contract. Another “want, want, want” consumer.

  • Jaygqitalia

    Well since i wont be going to sprint , and verizone is just too expensive, ill change my plan right before it takes effect that att has acquired them. In all reality, who knows what plans will be out by then. Granted you cant really beat what I have now. 69.99 unlimited everything no contract em+ , so im sure id lock myself into that for 2 years. Im from NYC so i basically get service anywhere anyway , no matter what the carrier is, so not really worried about att

    • Anonymous

      how did you get that?  My EMP plan is Unlimited everything for $139.99

    • Anonymous

      how did you get that?  My EMP plan is Unlimited everything for $139.99

  • TonyJohns

    Correct me if I’m wrong, does Value plans come with phone discounts? It was my understanding that a two year contract was required, but you still would have to pay full price for a phone.  Is that correct?

  • TonyJohns

    Correct me if I’m wrong, does Value plans come with phone discounts? It was my understanding that a two year contract was required, but you still would have to pay full price for a phone.  Is that correct?

    • Jaygqitalia

      pay discounted price as first payment , then either 10 or 15 a month for 20 months depends on the phone. I also think thats based on credit approval also , so id be sol 

      • Dylans_angel_2007

        if your approved for service then you are approved for eip on the value plan.  $300 per line. 

      • Dylans_angel_2007

        if your approved for service then you are approved for eip on the value plan.  $300 per line. 

      • Dylans_angel_2007

        if your approved for service then you are approved for eip on the value plan.  $300 per line. 

    • Jaygqitalia

      pay discounted price as first payment , then either 10 or 15 a month for 20 months depends on the phone. I also think thats based on credit approval also , so id be sol 

    • Anonymous

      The value plan does not have a phone subsidy. That costs $20 per month extra.

      • TonyJohns

        Wow, it’s better for me to just keep my EM+ plan now.  At least then I have the option to leave anytime I want.  I’m going to keep my EM+ plan until they physically cut off my service.  Then I will just move on over to Sprint.

    • Diamond_Prince

      Yes your right it doesnt come with any discounts and you do have to pay full price for phones but they let you pay it in payments up to 2 years payments so thats cool $10-$20 a month for a phone

      • Brian

        You save some money swiching to the 49.99 plan but you pay it back when you change phones…they are moving the monthly payments around.

  • T-Mo Convert

    Anyone who has seriously compared prices knows that T-Mobile value plans are a great deal, even if you have to pay full retail for the phone.  I just switched from Sprint after 10 years with them because of their crazy $10 premium data add-on which is on top of of my already too high unlimited everything plan.  I now pay less at T-Mobile for TWO PHONES than I did at Sprint for ONE PHONE.  Verizon and At&T were even higher.  Sometimes the grass is greener….

    • Jeffreygreen1315

      Unless you have to call cs. Today I was on hold for 55min. That’s total BS when the wait time was less than 3min before the announced purchase!

    • Jeffreygreen1315

      Unless you have to call cs. Today I was on hold for 55min. That’s total BS when the wait time was less than 3min before the announced purchase!

  • T-Mo Convert

    Anyone who has seriously compared prices knows that T-Mobile value plans are a great deal, even if you have to pay full retail for the phone.  I just switched from Sprint after 10 years with them because of their crazy $10 premium data add-on which is on top of of my already too high unlimited everything plan.  I now pay less at T-Mobile for TWO PHONES than I did at Sprint for ONE PHONE.  Verizon and At&T were even higher.  Sometimes the grass is greener….

  • Gorthex

    I would do it in a heartbeat if they didn’t charge full price for phones

  • Gorthex

    I would do it in a heartbeat if they didn’t charge full price for phones

  • Gorthex

    I would do it in a heartbeat if they didn’t charge full price for phones

  • Gorthex

    I would do it in a heartbeat if they didn’t charge full price for phones

  • Gorthex

    I would do it in a heartbeat if they didn’t charge full price for phones

  • Gorthex

    I would do it in a heartbeat if they didn’t charge full price for phones

  • Anonymous

    I switched from my old $59.99 Even More Plus plan with a 200MB data cap to a $49.99 Value plan with a 2GB data cap.

    I figure that would be a good contract price to have if I have to deal with AT&T in the future as the current equivalent AT&T plan is $84.99.

    • Anonymous

      That’s funny. I used to pay $40+$5(data) for a EM+ plan. Free texting through app. Didn’t need to fork over the $60, so Value only increases price for me.

      But, picking Value only delays the need to get off AT&T by ~2 years. Why wait?

    • Anonymous

      That’s funny. I used to pay $40+$5(data) for a EM+ plan. Free texting through app. Didn’t need to fork over the $60, so Value only increases price for me.

      But, picking Value only delays the need to get off AT&T by ~2 years. Why wait?

    • Brian

      Did you have any “Plan switching fee?”

      • LC

        No, there aren’t any migration fees when you move from even more plus to value because you don’t have a contract. There are only migration fees if you still have a balance remaining on your contract.

  • Anonymous

    I switched from my old $59.99 Even More Plus plan with a 200MB data cap to a $49.99 Value plan with a 2GB data cap.

    I figure that would be a good contract price to have if I have to deal with AT&T in the future as the current equivalent AT&T plan is $84.99.

  • Diamond_Prince

    OMG SOME PPL ARE STUPID!!

    IF THE BUYOUT GOES THRU YOU WONT HAVE TO PAY MORE. YOU WILL HAVE A 2 YEAR CONTRACT AND WHEN IT ENDS IF YOU WANT TO STAY YES YOU WILL PAY MORE BUT IF YOU CHOOSE TO LEAVE YOUR GOING TO STILL PAY MORE FOR VERIZON OR SPRINT. ALSO YOU DONT HAVE TO CHANGE TO THE NEW PLANS IF YOU DONT WANT TO. THERE JUST SUGGESTING IT. AND NO YOU WONT PAY $200 TO SWITCH THE REASON IS CUZ YOU DONT HAVE A CONTRACT DUH!!! SO ITS FREE FOR YOU. PLUS YOU GET THE CHANCE TO MAKE YOUR CREDIT SCORE GO UP WITH THE 2 YEAR CONTRACT. FOR THE PPL THAT HAVE CRAPPY CREDIT..

    • Mr_malina

      Cell bills don’t appear on your credit unless it goes to collections.

      • Diamond_Prince

        Your wrong.. It makes your credit score go up the longer you have it.

        • Private Public

          The only way your score goes up is when the inquiry falls off your credit report after two years. Cell service, like electric companies do nothing to improve your credit score whatsoever. They do not report unless you don’t pay your bill end go into collections.

    • Mr_malina

      Cell bills don’t appear on your credit unless it goes to collections.

  • JasonVargas

    I just switched from EM+ to value its alot cheaper. And your right they told me if ATT deal went through I would HAVE to change my plan

  • Freefitcoach

    It makes sense that plus plans would be at risk post AT&T deal since there is no contract to have to stick to.

    • Anonymous

      That’s exactly right. The no contract thing works both ways. You’re not obligated to them, they’re not obligated to you.

    • Anonymous

      That’s exactly right. The no contract thing works both ways. You’re not obligated to them, they’re not obligated to you.

    • Anonymous

      That’s exactly right. The no contract thing works both ways. You’re not obligated to them, they’re not obligated to you.

  • Doesnt even matter if you dont get a discount on the phone…. the price you pay upfront is the discounted phone price, and you also pay at most 15/mo extra. $75/mo unlimited everything vs the $79.99 truly unlimited. Save $5 a month until you pay the phone off. then you are back down to $59.98

  • Doesnt even matter if you dont get a discount on the phone…. the price you pay upfront is the discounted phone price, and you also pay at most 15/mo extra. $75/mo unlimited everything vs the $79.99 truly unlimited. Save $5 a month until you pay the phone off. then you are back down to $59.98

  • Doesnt even matter if you dont get a discount on the phone…. the price you pay upfront is the discounted phone price, and you also pay at most 15/mo extra. $75/mo unlimited everything vs the $79.99 truly unlimited. Save $5 a month until you pay the phone off. then you are back down to $59.98

  • Anonymous

    For me, unless the deal doesn’t go through we are not doing a contact. Rather take my chances and wait it out.

  • 21stNow

    I refuse to go on a contract of any kind for this line.  That is why I’m with T-Mobile in the first place.  I can’t say for sure that AT&T won’t change the rate plan for EMP customers, however, I am willing to take the chance.  AT&T Mobility is just now (8/31/11) forcing people off of AT&T Wireless plans from six(?) years ago.  I’m going to take this as precedent and not worry about not having a contract at buyout time.  If things don’t go the way that I think that they will, I can hit the highway.

    Another reason that it wouldn’t make sense for me to switch is that in order for me to get the same thing that I have on my EMP plan now, a Value plan would cost $5 more.  A contract (with an ETF) for a non-subsidized phone?  T-Mobile can keep that.

    • Commander_Fury

      We think alike . Plus if the merger doesn’t go through we can still keep our rates . The smart thing to do would be to wait it out . Locking in on a contract rate when a phone isn’t discounted or provided it pretty silly .

    • Commander_Fury

      We think alike . Plus if the merger doesn’t go through we can still keep our rates . The smart thing to do would be to wait it out . Locking in on a contract rate when a phone isn’t discounted or provided it pretty silly .

    • Commander_Fury

      We think alike . Plus if the merger doesn’t go through we can still keep our rates . The smart thing to do would be to wait it out . Locking in on a contract rate when a phone isn’t discounted or provided it pretty silly .

    • Commander_Fury

      We think alike . Plus if the merger doesn’t go through we can still keep our rates . The smart thing to do would be to wait it out . Locking in on a contract rate when a phone isn’t discounted or provided it pretty silly .

  • Hurlamania

    If they want em+ customers to switch to a value plan they need to offer a one time phone discount. Then I’d switch. I’m not going to sign for 2 years for 5 dollar savings a month.

    • Hurlamania

      And I would add international service and caller tunes.

      • Ggdron00

        Hello im a tmo csr and although you might prefer a discount on a new phone the value plan is still much better even if your paying full price for a phone. Just an example a 2 line family plan with a discount on phone (classic plan) would cost you 139.99 plus tax with unlm talk text and 2gb data and a value plan is 99.99 for all the same features, thats $40 your saving per month and the most youll pay for a phone is $15 a month on top of your 99.99 so thats still $25 less than you would pay for a classic plan.

        • Viper4774

          Currently i’m em+ with a contract with 3000 minutes per month and a 5gb cap for 2 lines at $189 monthly. No because I do have a contract I am already locked in at my rate after the merger which I hope doesn’t happen. So remember some of the em+ are contracted also.

        • guest

          Technically if you have a contracted EM+ you shouldn’t. The person who contracted you was going against policy as EM+ is a non contracted account. Unless you switched over because of some crazy situation; contracted EM+ customers are very rare.

  • Brian

    $200 “Plan switching fee.”

    I currently have a Even More Plan paying aprox. $146 including all taxes and fees for 2 lines.  This plan includes 750 shared mins, unlimited txting and 5GB full speed web (I updated my plan at the beginning of the year.)

    Anyway, I tired to change my plan to the $49.99 per line deal expecting to eat some activation fees but thinking it would still save money after a few months however when I tired to change the plan last week I found out there is a “Plan switching fee”…that costs $200 per line.  $200 per line, upfront now, blowing out any savings I thought I could be getting.

    My point is, these plans are geared toward new customers that T-Mobile wants to lock down for 2 years…not for us loyal customers.  (Been with T-Mobile for 5+ years.)  Was disappointed this weekend.

    – Brian

    • CRT24

      This has been addressed numerous times Brian….the fee has to do with your contract end date and if you have $200 per line fee to switch then you are less than 12 months into your existing contract……it will go down as you get closer to the end of your contract and will be nothing when you have 183 days or less left on your current contract. Any existing customer can switch to this but there has to some stipulations for people to be able to switch to these lower cost plans otherwise people who just got a discount on a phone 2 months ago could switch and would get the lower rate in addition to full discount on a phone……surely you realize that is not fiscally prudent for T-Mobile to allow that to happen so the prorated migration fees are in place to recover some of the previous phone subsidy in exchange for a much lower rate. This has absolutely nothing to do with current vs New customers.

    • CRT24

      This has been addressed numerous times Brian….the fee has to do with your contract end date and if you have $200 per line fee to switch then you are less than 12 months into your existing contract……it will go down as you get closer to the end of your contract and will be nothing when you have 183 days or less left on your current contract. Any existing customer can switch to this but there has to some stipulations for people to be able to switch to these lower cost plans otherwise people who just got a discount on a phone 2 months ago could switch and would get the lower rate in addition to full discount on a phone……surely you realize that is not fiscally prudent for T-Mobile to allow that to happen so the prorated migration fees are in place to recover some of the previous phone subsidy in exchange for a much lower rate. This has absolutely nothing to do with current vs New customers.

    • Markitos

      Looks like that offer is for Even More Plus customers only, I agree TMobile needs to do more to keep current customers from jumping .

      • CRT24

        It is not for EM+ customers only! It is for any customer that wants to switch to it and there could be fees involve depending on remaining contract…..and in fact EM+ customer cannot switch to classic plans, they can only do value which is a better deal anyway and most EM+ customers will not have contracts, thus no fee to switch. T-Mobile gives both current and new customers the best rates with a great network and phone selection so I think T-Mobile “gives” all customers plenty.

        • LC

          Technically they can switch to classic plans and have been able to for a while. You just have to perform an upgrade.

        • firebird

          When Value Plans came out they changed it so EM+ can’t switch to Classic anymore.

        • CRT24

          Actually they can’t switch to classic, technically or otherwise and as I said before, why would anyone want to?? It has been well established that value plans are less than classic plans even with full cost phones. The only way they could switch to classic is to cancel and activate new numbers on the classic plan, activation fees and all.

    • Markitos

      Looks like that offer is for Even More Plus customers only, I agree TMobile needs to do more to keep current customers from jumping .

    • jarjon76

      Ah yes, the tired “us loyal customers” gripe has reared its ugly head again. You don’t deserve special treatment because you’ve been with a company for a long time.

      As far as the rest of your post, you are correct in $200 per line to switch plans is silly. However, you did sign a contract agreeing to pay the amount you pay for the plan you’re on. Whether you are or not, you come off as one of those “I wanna get out of something I signed but don’t want to pay what I agreed upon”.

    • jarjon76

      Ah yes, the tired “us loyal customers” gripe has reared its ugly head again. You don’t deserve special treatment because you’ve been with a company for a long time.

      As far as the rest of your post, you are correct in $200 per line to switch plans is silly. However, you did sign a contract agreeing to pay the amount you pay for the plan you’re on. Whether you are or not, you come off as one of those “I wanna get out of something I signed but don’t want to pay what I agreed upon”.

  • Shawnperry13

    They don’t have a value plan that matches my even more plus. I still have home at home service which is no longer available. And 2 gig data before throttling isn’t going to cut it. I’ll sign if I can keep what I have or make it better.

    • LC

      I’ve switched a couple of customers over and was able to keep the at home service. It can be done :)

      • LC, I WANT THE  VALUE PLAN ,  BEEN CUSTOMER FOR 9 YRS, IC ANT PAY  THE $1000 FEE FOR 5 LINES TO CHANGE. WILL U DO?

        • LC

          No, and it’s just not going to happen, so I’m not sure why you can’t accept that and move on. Wait until you’re further along into your contract or bite the bullet and pay the migration fees. There aren’t any ways around it. For some people the savings are significant enough that they can recoup the fees within a reasonable amount of time, but given that you clearly just resigned all five of your lines then I would wait for a bit before doing that. But you really just need to accept that the migration fees are legitimate charges and there isn’t a way to get around them. I’m sure you’re still getting a great deal on your current plan compared to Sprint, Verizon, and AT&T. So you’re still getting a good deal regardless.

        • LC

          No, and it’s just not going to happen, so I’m not sure why you can’t accept that and move on. Wait until you’re further along into your contract or bite the bullet and pay the migration fees. There aren’t any ways around it. For some people the savings are significant enough that they can recoup the fees within a reasonable amount of time, but given that you clearly just resigned all five of your lines then I would wait for a bit before doing that. But you really just need to accept that the migration fees are legitimate charges and there isn’t a way to get around them. I’m sure you’re still getting a great deal on your current plan compared to Sprint, Verizon, and AT&T. So you’re still getting a good deal regardless.

        • LC

          No, and it’s just not going to happen, so I’m not sure why you can’t accept that and move on. Wait until you’re further along into your contract or bite the bullet and pay the migration fees. There aren’t any ways around it. For some people the savings are significant enough that they can recoup the fees within a reasonable amount of time, but given that you clearly just resigned all five of your lines then I would wait for a bit before doing that. But you really just need to accept that the migration fees are legitimate charges and there isn’t a way to get around them. I’m sure you’re still getting a great deal on your current plan compared to Sprint, Verizon, and AT&T. So you’re still getting a good deal regardless.

  • Shawnperry13

    They don’t have a value plan that matches my even more plus. I still have home at home service which is no longer available. And 2 gig data before throttling isn’t going to cut it. I’ll sign if I can keep what I have or make it better.

  • DahL

    I have $59.99 unlimited everything, no contract EM+. 
    I would be stupid if I chain myself to a contract.

    • Jaygqitalia

      As do I. But wed also be stupid to lose this plan for 2 years when the buyout goes through

  • Phillip Schroder

    I dumped ATT like a bad habbit and snatched up 4 value lines for my family. 2 @ unl and 2 @ 500 mins with everyone getting 2gb of 4g data and unl texts. Ridiculously cheap IMO. 

  • Phillip Schroder

    I dumped ATT like a bad habbit and snatched up 4 value lines for my family. 2 @ unl and 2 @ 500 mins with everyone getting 2gb of 4g data and unl texts. Ridiculously cheap IMO. 

  • Bill Patterson

    I made the switch this week because I needed to up the data plan on one phone and figured might as well lock in now.  Went from 1500 min, 4 phones, two with 2gb at $129 to $125 with unlimited minutes on two w/ 5gb and 2gb, and then the two additional lines with 500 minutes each, no data.

  • Anonymous

    No way I’m signing a contract. I went to T-Mobile in December of 2009 specifically for EM+. I plan to stay contract free as long as I own a cell phone. If the ATT buyout happens and I’m forced to pay their ludicrous rates, I’ll simply dump T-Mobile for prepaid (the only non-contract game left). Probably Virgin.

    I have no problem paying for my smartphone handsets like the rest of the country seems to.

  • Anonymous

    No way I’m signing a contract. I went to T-Mobile in December of 2009 specifically for EM+. I plan to stay contract free as long as I own a cell phone. If the ATT buyout happens and I’m forced to pay their ludicrous rates, I’ll simply dump T-Mobile for prepaid (the only non-contract game left). Probably Virgin.

    I have no problem paying for my smartphone handsets like the rest of the country seems to.

    • Diamond_Prince

      Well if you get a contract you wont pay more if at&t wins the buyout but if you dont get the contract you will only have the pre pay for a few months or a yeah cuz there getting rid of it as soon as they can..

      • Anonymous

        I wouldn’t be getting prepaid with AT&T if they win the buyout. Incidentally, not with Verizon either (the only carrier I’ve seen with prepaid rates *higher* than their subsidized-phone contract rates).

  • firebird

    AT&T has been coy about whether people who are not on contract will have to change their plan. In the official FAQ provided by the company, the question says “Will I have to change my rate plan?” And the answer says, “AT&T will honor all contacts entered into before the merger is complete.” We are not entirely sure what that means.

  • timmyjoe42

    I bet they are doing this only to lock people in before the new iPhone comes out. I am not getting rid of my EM+ plan until they make me. At that point I will look into new providers like Cincinnati Bell, MetroPCS, or Simple Mobile.

  • timmyjoe42

    I bet they are doing this only to lock people in before the new iPhone comes out. I am not getting rid of my EM+ plan until they make me. At that point I will look into new providers like Cincinnati Bell, MetroPCS, or Simple Mobile.

  • timmyjoe42

    I bet they are doing this only to lock people in before the new iPhone comes out. I am not getting rid of my EM+ plan until they make me. At that point I will look into new providers like Cincinnati Bell, MetroPCS, or Simple Mobile.

  • timmyjoe42

    I bet they are doing this only to lock people in before the new iPhone comes out. I am not getting rid of my EM+ plan until they make me. At that point I will look into new providers like Cincinnati Bell, MetroPCS, or Simple Mobile.

  • Sue

    I’ve researched this and spent time talking to a CSMgr – if you migrate to a Value plan, you will be charged a “migration fee” of up to $200 per line (similar to a ETF), as it was explained to me, in order to “compensate for the discount on the phone you just got from us.”  Nevermind that my phone is 18 months old… :P

    Additionally, those who do migrate to the Value Plan might be able to keep their rates if/when the AT&T takeover goes through, but they lose any benefit of purchasing phones at pro-rated prices.  There are NO discounts on phones with the Value Plan and the Equipment Installment Plan is also being phased out (in to 21 monthly payments), as there will also be no more discounts on phones for the other current calling plans.  :P

    Just so’s ya know.  :

    • LC

      This is old news but yes, that’s all true.

      But again, the further along in your contract you are, the smaller the migration fee becomes, and obviously at a certain point there isn’t one.

    • Jason

      The migration fee is only charged if you’re under contract. So if you’re on even more plus, you don’t have a contract. Therefore, no migration fee.

    • Jason

      The migration fee is only charged if you’re under contract. So if you’re on even more plus, you don’t have a contract. Therefore, no migration fee.

      • Diamond_Prince

        Jason is correct!! There isnt a migration fee..

    • Uglypete

      There are no migration fees at 18 months for anyone

  • jrr

    I, too, am a t-mo customer specifically because they offered no-contract at the time. Good luck converting me!

    The best you’ll get is a verbal agreement: as long as you offer the best value, I’ll remain a customer.

  • Nick S Casper

    No way.  EM+ until the merger.  Then good-bye.  And don’t tell me for a minute that Sprint or Verizon won’t offer some great deals as the merger nears to get me to switch over. . . and I will. 

    • King00660

      Nick S Casper don’t you mean Verizon or Verizon.. Yes soon no more Sprint.. 

    • Anonymous

      Sprint, possibly. Verizon offering any deals, no chance. The only “deal” Verizon will offer you is the chance to get on America’s best network (according to the most recent JD Power)

  • Nick S Casper

    No way.  EM+ until the merger.  Then good-bye.  And don’t tell me for a minute that Sprint or Verizon won’t offer some great deals as the merger nears to get me to switch over. . . and I will. 

  • Ernre

    They are charging $150 per line in Migration Fees 

    • Diamond_Prince

      Thats only if your a classic plan going to value plan..

    • Diamond_Prince

      Thats only if your a classic plan going to value plan..

  • Bob

    Now wait a minute — I remember having to pay to “upgrade” to the EM+ plan. Are they going to pay me to switch to a plan having a contract again? Also, unless Tmo can fix their coverage issues due to the tower transitions, when the sign turns blue I am going red……..

  • Seresquerra

    Yeah, got a text today telling me to call 611 and change my EM+ to a value plan and get 1200 min bonus, whatever that means. Im happy the way it is, lets see how long I can keep it going…

  • DH

    heeeeeeell no!!! i’m going to keep my even more + plan for as long as i can, & if the merger eventually goes through, i’ll change to sprint or verizon b/c i hate at&t.

  • for those that keep saying there is no migration fee. look right under the values plan benefits, the last one right under the poorly placed tmonews logo(we know where we are can you at least put logos not over the darn pictures texts. )  
    anyways im sure they put that migration fees for em+ customers because there isnt one.

    • Anonymous

      There are only migration fees for customers who are currently on a contract, that gave them a discounted phone within the last 18 months. Most Even More Plus customers have no migration fees because they never got discounted handsets.

  • for those that keep saying there is no migration fee. look right under the values plan benefits, the last one right under the poorly placed tmonews logo(we know where we are can you at least put logos not over the darn pictures texts. )  
    anyways im sure they put that migration fees for em+ customers because there isnt one.

  • Richardthegrape

    I have my own plan if this deal goes through. I am ditching At&T-Mobile, NOT signing up with any of the other carriers, and I am getting a Wifi Hotspot off of my current internet provider(Comcast) and using it with Google Voice with Groove ip on my Nexus S. Unlimited minutes, unlimited texts, unlimited data, and ONLY $40 a month to use the Wifi Hotspot through Comcast.

    Only downsides: paying $120 for the device, carrying that extra device around, paying full price if I need a new phone, and no mms(but that’s what email is for).

    Still working out the kinks in this plan of mine, but it is looking like the better option currently, and I hope it works out as well as I am thinking ha-ha.

    • None

      Isn’t t comcast using slow clearwire connection … ?? Like 2-3mbps ? 4G available but for extra $$$.
      I’ve thou about ur solution since pcmcia cards came out for computers and a router from kyocera came out making hotspots available .. that was 2008 now days 2011 I’ve still not reaally into relliying into hotspots for a cellphone. Why? There’s not internet availability everywhere.. peak hours are always bad for using hotspots.. n theres not such thing as unlimited data anymore

      • Richardthegrape

        Yeah, they do. I completely spaced that Comcast does when I posted this. And last I read Comcast has a 250 gb cap, more then I need on a phone or my laptop haha. 

        I’ve been using Google voice and Groove ip for a little over month now with only wifi(phone is currently disconnected), and it seems to work pretty smoothly. Tried it once on my sisters mt4g wifi hotspot, was able to get texts/emails/data easy, but calls sucked. Only got one to go through. Ha

    • Anonymous

      So you’re going to be relying on Clearwire, the worst 4G network for both speeds and coverage in America, to provide you a reliable cell phone service…good luck with that endeavor.

    • Anonymous

      So you’re going to be relying on Clearwire, the worst 4G network for both speeds and coverage in America, to provide you a reliable cell phone service…good luck with that endeavor.

      • Richardthegrape

        Haha yeah, I forgot to put that in the downsides. I use to work for Clear back in the day when it was known as Clearwire, it sucked back then too. Was a customer service/technical support rep. They pretty much train you to be terrible at your job. 

        But I figure since my nexus s only get 1-3 mbps download with Tmobiles 3g it won’t be that big of a speed change ha. And the coverage is decent in Utah.

    • Moe

      This would probably be a mistake. I understand that a lot of these hot spots were not designed to handle VoIP. A friend has a Clear product and says it is slow and always loses a connection. Think long and hard befor plunking down the cash.

      • Richardthegrape

        Yeah definitely! Like i said, still working out the kinks though. I’m only doing this if the “merger” goes through, if that happens, hopefully there will be better options. Or better equipment by then. Haha

  • SIMplySIMple

    EM+P customer here but thinking of ditching T-Mobile and going the SIMple route.

  • SIMplySIMple

    EM+P customer here but thinking of ditching T-Mobile and going the SIMple route.

  • adds cls

    well seems like im just gonna stick around till they cut down my service and then go to the prepaid people… Metro pcs, Boost Mobile or Virgin, the only thing that i hate about them its …. they not only have crappy service,slow internet but they also have like last year phones and name them as “the latest in technology”

    I think AT&T be like really stupid to not have a prepaid service (not talking about the buying cards one but the even more plan), i mean seriously how many people is in this EM+ plans? And why are they on it?? they mostly like myself are on it because we cant get a contract going because, we either have a crappy credit or some background crap we hauling, BUT YET WE PAY FORWARD for our service that my friends its called EASY money for this cell phones companies, cuz not they only sell u a phone phone for 3times ur contract people price but yet u get paid before i even use ur service!!! 

    Seriously AT & Tmobile uknow that money u get from prepaid its good easy money.

    • 21stNow

      Even More Plus is a post-paid plan that requires a credit check.

      • HTC Pyramid

        em+ is not postpaid. i was on contract and didn’t renew so i could save money. i didn’t mind buying my phones outright.

        • I always thought “postpaid” just refered to paying your bill at the END of a cycle.  Like, I use the service throughout the month of August and then at the end of August I pay my bill for the services I used for that month.  This is as opposed to PREPAID, where you pay up front for the services, use the services that you’ve already paid for, pay to renew those services, etc.  Am I mistaken?  If I’m not, then Even More Plus is indeed a POSTPAID plan.

        • Anonymous

          There were both Flexpay and Postpaid Even More Plus plans for the record.

        • 21stNow

          My current bill is due on 9/13/11.  This bill covers a period from 7/17/11-8/16/11.  I am Even More Plus.  Please explain to me how this is not post-paid. 

    • 21stNow

      Even More Plus is a post-paid plan that requires a credit check.

  • Aron T

    I am on the FT even more unlimited plan, with one 5gb unlimited 4g plan, one 5gb unlimited smart phone web, add a line, with phone 1st web, pref unlimited msg for families, and two insured phones. I pay $230.00 a month. I really don’t care if this goes up, at the end of the day it wont be a big deal for me anyways. I don’t like the new plans because me and my wife are big time data users, Netflix, Pandora, YouTube, work files & e-mails, remote VPN so hitting that 2gb wall would end up being a bad thing for us, I have even hit my 5gb wall three times already and come close to hitting it every month. I really think that T-mobile is trying to get everyone on a 2gb cap to relieve some network strain/traffic to get a handle on network issues. I have been with T-mobile since the Voicestream days (1999), in fact i still have my old Voicestream sim card that i was using up till about 2 years ago. People that are scared of the uncertain should pull out now and get on cheaper carrier like Virgin, metro pcs, boost mobile ect, keep in mind that everything goes up in price all the time and this is just something that we all need to be prepared to deal with. 

    • Anonymous

      you do know that you can choose the 5gb right? Tmobile currently offers 200MB, 2GB, 5GB and 10GB…This goes for value as well. They promote the plan with 2GB the most, because MOST people don’t pass 2GB’s…

      • Aron T

        True, but the combo i am on cant be beat right now, I have called t-mobile a month ago and they told me that where I am at is the best price that they have without going to a crappy value plan. 

  • Aron T

    I am on the FT even more unlimited plan, with one 5gb unlimited 4g plan, one 5gb unlimited smart phone web, add a line, with phone 1st web, pref unlimited msg for families, and two insured phones. I pay $230.00 a month. I really don’t care if this goes up, at the end of the day it wont be a big deal for me anyways. I don’t like the new plans because me and my wife are big time data users, Netflix, Pandora, YouTube, work files & e-mails, remote VPN so hitting that 2gb wall would end up being a bad thing for us, I have even hit my 5gb wall three times already and come close to hitting it every month. I really think that T-mobile is trying to get everyone on a 2gb cap to relieve some network strain/traffic to get a handle on network issues. I have been with T-mobile since the Voicestream days (1999), in fact i still have my old Voicestream sim card that i was using up till about 2 years ago. People that are scared of the uncertain should pull out now and get on cheaper carrier like Virgin, metro pcs, boost mobile ect, keep in mind that everything goes up in price all the time and this is just something that we all need to be prepared to deal with. 

  • Aron T

    I am on the FT even more unlimited plan, with one 5gb unlimited 4g plan, one 5gb unlimited smart phone web, add a line, with phone 1st web, pref unlimited msg for families, and two insured phones. I pay $230.00 a month. I really don’t care if this goes up, at the end of the day it wont be a big deal for me anyways. I don’t like the new plans because me and my wife are big time data users, Netflix, Pandora, YouTube, work files & e-mails, remote VPN so hitting that 2gb wall would end up being a bad thing for us, I have even hit my 5gb wall three times already and come close to hitting it every month. I really think that T-mobile is trying to get everyone on a 2gb cap to relieve some network strain/traffic to get a handle on network issues. I have been with T-mobile since the Voicestream days (1999), in fact i still have my old Voicestream sim card that i was using up till about 2 years ago. People that are scared of the uncertain should pull out now and get on cheaper carrier like Virgin, metro pcs, boost mobile ect, keep in mind that everything goes up in price all the time and this is just something that we all need to be prepared to deal with. 

  • Moe

    I feel like I’m wearing a bulls eye – TMO calls, sends text messages saying that that my flex pay service is expiring. They are fairly firm in saying that the plan will be ending soon. They need to sweeten the offer to make me want to make the move from a no contract service to the ball and chain contract service. No new phones, no savings, no nothing. Come on TMO wake up you have to make it worth while to existing flex play customers to make the change or they are going to move to another provider.

  • Moe

    I feel like I’m wearing a bulls eye – TMO calls, sends text messages saying that that my flex pay service is expiring. They are fairly firm in saying that the plan will be ending soon. They need to sweeten the offer to make me want to make the move from a no contract service to the ball and chain contract service. No new phones, no savings, no nothing. Come on TMO wake up you have to make it worth while to existing flex play customers to make the change or they are going to move to another provider.

    • adluna

      Same here. Tmo has been hounding me for a couple of months to change my EM+ plan. I kept saying, “No, thank you.” The last time they called I was told that I could not keep my plan and “had to change it.” I said, “Well, if I have to…”. She transferred me over to another department to make the change. His first question, “Do you want to change your plan?”. I said, “Hell no!” and explained how I had been lied to by the previous agent. He said I did not have to change and could keep the plan I have now. I asked that they stop texting and calling me about it. That was about 2 weeks ago. Today,I got another email telling me I needed to change my plan!

      I think AT&T is trying to lock in as many Tmo customers with new 2 yr. contracts so we won/t leave for one of the CDMA companies after (if) they merge. 

    • adluna

      Same here. Tmo has been hounding me for a couple of months to change my EM+ plan. I kept saying, “No, thank you.” The last time they called I was told that I could not keep my plan and “had to change it.” I said, “Well, if I have to…”. She transferred me over to another department to make the change. His first question, “Do you want to change your plan?”. I said, “Hell no!” and explained how I had been lied to by the previous agent. He said I did not have to change and could keep the plan I have now. I asked that they stop texting and calling me about it. That was about 2 weeks ago. Today,I got another email telling me I needed to change my plan!

      I think AT&T is trying to lock in as many Tmo customers with new 2 yr. contracts so we won/t leave for one of the CDMA companies after (if) they merge. 

  • Anonymous

    I am wondering what AT&T will do with T-Mobile’s MVNO Simple Mobile. They might shut them down, and try to force the customers over to AT&T’s prepaid service, which is way more expensive, and you get less.

  • Anonymous

    I am wondering what AT&T will do with T-Mobile’s MVNO Simple Mobile. They might shut them down, and try to force the customers over to AT&T’s prepaid service, which is way more expensive, and you get less.

  • Anonymous

    I am wondering what AT&T will do with T-Mobile’s MVNO Simple Mobile. They might shut them down, and try to force the customers over to AT&T’s prepaid service, which is way more expensive, and you get less.

  • Anonymous

    I am wondering what AT&T will do with T-Mobile’s MVNO Simple Mobile. They might shut them down, and try to force the customers over to AT&T’s prepaid service, which is way more expensive, and you get less.

  • Anonymous

    I am wondering what AT&T will do with T-Mobile’s MVNO Simple Mobile. They might shut them down, and try to force the customers over to AT&T’s prepaid service, which is way more expensive, and you get less.

  • Svfitz

    http://www.bgr.com/2011/08/29/att-network-ranked-worst-among-major-u-s-carriers-by-j-d-power/
    What else needs to be said?!  AT$T deal goes through, why stay with the WORST carrier.  
    I’ve already been getting calls from TMo to change my plan.  Actually they seem to be saying (maybe my impression) that the EM+ is going away and that you need to switch to a value plan.   
    I’m not locking in to any contracts with anyone until I know they are going to be providing the same quality of service day 1 as day 730 and that if I have an issue I will be treated like a valued customer not a burden.       

  • Svfitz

    http://www.bgr.com/2011/08/29/att-network-ranked-worst-among-major-u-s-carriers-by-j-d-power/
    What else needs to be said?!  AT$T deal goes through, why stay with the WORST carrier.  
    I’ve already been getting calls from TMo to change my plan.  Actually they seem to be saying (maybe my impression) that the EM+ is going away and that you need to switch to a value plan.   
    I’m not locking in to any contracts with anyone until I know they are going to be providing the same quality of service day 1 as day 730 and that if I have an issue I will be treated like a valued customer not a burden.       

  • Svfitz

    http://www.bgr.com/2011/08/29/att-network-ranked-worst-among-major-u-s-carriers-by-j-d-power/
    What else needs to be said?!  AT$T deal goes through, why stay with the WORST carrier.  
    I’ve already been getting calls from TMo to change my plan.  Actually they seem to be saying (maybe my impression) that the EM+ is going away and that you need to switch to a value plan.   
    I’m not locking in to any contracts with anyone until I know they are going to be providing the same quality of service day 1 as day 730 and that if I have an issue I will be treated like a valued customer not a burden.       

  • Thomas Brezinski

    I’ve already gotten calls and e-mails.  I bought the G2 when it came out and am still paying my EIP on that with EM+ plan.  If they will backdate the start of the contract term to the date I bought the phone I “might” consider it.  But I’m not signing a 2 yr contract with a phone that’s already a year old.

    I really hope the merger doesn’t go through.  I don’t want AT&T and Verizon reception is horrible at my house.

  • There’s only one set of circumstances in which I’d switch to a “Value Plan”: if they change the ETF to 1c.

    Otherwise it’s a really bad deal right now. If it’s true AT&T plans to simply get rid of all T-Mobile customers with EM+ (what?! why? “Hmmm, we have all these customers who are paying by the month for phone service. I have a great idea, let’s get rid of them. Yay us!”) then ultimately I think I’ll switch my wife and I to a prepaid offering, probably not from AT&T.

    But… in any case, I doubt there are serious plans by AT&T to get rid of EM+ customers, despite the scaremongering here. AT&T – like all operators – has plenty of out of contract customers already. There’s no sense in getting rid of loyal customers, especially if their only “crime” is to not accept phone subsidies. And putting up prices for EM+ users doesn’t make much sense either – EM+ may once have been the “very cheap” option, but it’s not that cheap by today’s standards, especially given the lack of a subsidy.

    To believe AT&T will get rid of EM+ or put up prices is to believe AT&T wants to drive away customers who are already dubious about them for no good reason. That doesn’t make any sense. Yes, AT&T has committed to sticking with existing contracts, but they’ve made no statements suggesting that implies getting rid of customers without. A customer is a customer. You don’t upset a customer – who can leave at any time – without a very good reason.

  • There’s only one set of circumstances in which I’d switch to a “Value Plan”: if they change the ETF to 1c.

    Otherwise it’s a really bad deal right now. If it’s true AT&T plans to simply get rid of all T-Mobile customers with EM+ (what?! why? “Hmmm, we have all these customers who are paying by the month for phone service. I have a great idea, let’s get rid of them. Yay us!”) then ultimately I think I’ll switch my wife and I to a prepaid offering, probably not from AT&T.

    But… in any case, I doubt there are serious plans by AT&T to get rid of EM+ customers, despite the scaremongering here. AT&T – like all operators – has plenty of out of contract customers already. There’s no sense in getting rid of loyal customers, especially if their only “crime” is to not accept phone subsidies. And putting up prices for EM+ users doesn’t make much sense either – EM+ may once have been the “very cheap” option, but it’s not that cheap by today’s standards, especially given the lack of a subsidy.

    To believe AT&T will get rid of EM+ or put up prices is to believe AT&T wants to drive away customers who are already dubious about them for no good reason. That doesn’t make any sense. Yes, AT&T has committed to sticking with existing contracts, but they’ve made no statements suggesting that implies getting rid of customers without. A customer is a customer. You don’t upset a customer – who can leave at any time – without a very good reason.

  • If I have to change my plan because of this merger, I’ll just go to Sprint.

    • Exactly, so long as we stay EM+, we have the benefit of being able to play the field. 

    • Exactly, so long as we stay EM+, we have the benefit of being able to play the field. 

    • Exactly, so long as we stay EM+, we have the benefit of being able to play the field. 

  • I was told by THREE different T-Mo employees that if I stay on EMP I will be able to carry this rate over to AT&T and it would stay the same unless I change something on the plan, like add more minutes, etc.

    • derek 21

      unfortunately no one knows, since you don’t have a contract no one has to honor anything

    • derek 21

      unfortunately no one knows, since you don’t have a contract no one has to honor anything

    • derek 21

      unfortunately no one knows, since you don’t have a contract no one has to honor anything

    • derek 21

      unfortunately no one knows, since you don’t have a contract no one has to honor anything

    • derek 21

      unfortunately no one knows, since you don’t have a contract no one has to honor anything

    • derek 21

      unfortunately no one knows, since you don’t have a contract no one has to honor anything

    • derek 21

      unfortunately no one knows, since you don’t have a contract no one has to honor anything

  • derek 21

    these plans can save some people 40 – 70 a month no is one is going to take that much money off your bill, not expect a contract when you already been getting a discount on the plan however long u had it, and no one is going to give you a free phone or discount when people that are getting discounts are not paying what you would pay. i like how either tmonew or their insider  photoshopped that at &t statement at the end clever

  • derek 21

    these plans can save some people 40 – 70 a month no is one is going to take that much money off your bill, not expect a contract when you already been getting a discount on the plan however long u had it, and no one is going to give you a free phone or discount when people that are getting discounts are not paying what you would pay. i like how either tmonew or their insider  photoshopped that at &t statement at the end clever

  • Yogi

    I switched from Even More Plus to a Value plan about a week ago. Here’s a comparison:

    Old Plan:
    $139.99 EM+ Unlimited Talk, Text, Data (5GB high speed) for the first two lines
    $55 Unlimited Talk, Text, Data (5GB high speed) for the third line
    $30 Unlimited Talk, Text, No Data for the fourth line
    $10 200 minutes Talk, Unlimited Text for the fifth line
    $234.99 Total

    New Plan:
    $99.98 Value Plan Unlimited Talk, Text, Data (2GB high speed) for the first two lines
    $35 Unlimited Talk, Text, Data (2GB high speed) for the third line
    $25 Unlimited Talk, Text, No Data for the fourth line
    $5 500 minutes Talk, Unlimited Text for the fifth line
    $164.98
     
    The new Value Plan has more flexibility on the data packages, which is great for us since the first two smartphones don’t come anywhere close to 2GB of data. I average around 3GB per month, but since switching from a Vibrant to a Dell Venue Pro, I find myself using Wi-Fi more since it doesn’t kill the battery as bad as it did on the Vibrant. So I went with 2GB of high speed, for now. Even if I do end up needing more data, I can simply change the data plan on my phone, the third line in the above comparisons, to the 5GB Data Premium for $15 more.

    Much more flexibility and better pricing makes me happy. Of course, I had never gone to the EM+ plans because of the no contract, but more because I wasn’t paying the phone subsidy. I prefer to buy my phones myself rather than fall into the subsidy/upgrade trap that the carriers like to play. For people complaining about the contract, I would suggest looking at the Monthly 4G prepaid plans that don’t come with a contract. Although, there is no family plan with those.

    • Yogi

      Oh, and it’s also nice to know that I’m locked into a great rate plan if the AT&T merger does go through.

      • Dude Lebowski

        I have iPhone4 with monthly 4g but I will switch to value plan right before the merger start so I have more time on savings when locked in.

      • Dude Lebowski

        I have iPhone4 with monthly 4g but I will switch to value plan right before the merger start so I have more time on savings when locked in.

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      This is a well-written, detailed, and informative post, I hope people appreciate the effort you made to pass on the information.

      Although I am no longer directly on T-Mobile (I switched my two lines to another carrier, I signed my mom and sister on to T-Mobile).

      Anyway, I went with EM+ for one reason only, to save monthly $10 per line.

      As to phones, since I was buying new phones every few months, on both lines, when EM+ came around I was not concerned that I would have to pay full price for phones since I was doing something similar already.

      What I was doing is keeping my phones in like-new condition, saved the boxes and accessories. This allowed me to get top dollar on eBay after using the phone for three to four months.  All penciled out, I ended up “renting” the best T-Mobile phones, for about $10 to $20 monthly.

      • Yogi

        Thanks for the kind words. I just wanted to give a real world example of how switching from EM+ to a Value Plan can be beneficial. Especially after reading some of the misinformation in the comments.

        I’m the guy that buys those like-new condition phones off of eBay/Craigslist or takes advantage of deals at retail, such as the current one from Dell for $299 for a Venue Pro. I prefer to pay as little as possible in monthly service and buy the phone I want, how I want. I never understood how people can’t get past the low upfront cost of subsidized phones to see they are paying more for them in the long run.

      • Yogi

        Thanks for the kind words. I just wanted to give a real world example of how switching from EM+ to a Value Plan can be beneficial. Especially after reading some of the misinformation in the comments.

        I’m the guy that buys those like-new condition phones off of eBay/Craigslist or takes advantage of deals at retail, such as the current one from Dell for $299 for a Venue Pro. I prefer to pay as little as possible in monthly service and buy the phone I want, how I want. I never understood how people can’t get past the low upfront cost of subsidized phones to see they are paying more for them in the long run.

  • SteVenM

    My understanding is that any customer under contract will be able to keep their terms until the end of that contract.  Once that contract expires, whether its Even More, Value or something else, ATT would not have to honor those prices going forward, and probably wouldn’t – no matter what is said right now.  I wouldn’t trust anything a Tmobile customer rep tells me because they don’t know what they’re talking about most of the time.

  • SteVenM

    Value plan seems fine if you already have a working phone – if you’re buying a phone then it seems to even out.  My old phone isn’t a smartphone so Id have to buy a new phone, and if I just wanted a talkl only (with minimal texting) plan, Id be better off with my old ‘grandfathered’ plan.  There’s no way ATT would honor that after a contract expired.  So my options are to sign a 2 year contract before the merger so I buy myself 2 years…or take my chances and switch carriers

  • SteVenM

    Value plan seems fine if you already have a working phone – if you’re buying a phone then it seems to even out.  My old phone isn’t a smartphone so Id have to buy a new phone, and if I just wanted a talkl only (with minimal texting) plan, Id be better off with my old ‘grandfathered’ plan.  There’s no way ATT would honor that after a contract expired.  So my options are to sign a 2 year contract before the merger so I buy myself 2 years…or take my chances and switch carriers

  • Arthur64

    Enen More Plus is a no contract plan so there is nothing for ATT to honor. Value plan ends up being cheaper, allows you to pay for the phone in installments like the Even More Plus plan used to do (no longer available) and has a contract that must be honored for at least the two years you initially are bound to. A no brainer unless you like paying 25% more than you need to by switching carriers.

  • If you are a heavy data user who has never had your data speed throttled, when you switch to any of these plans that’s over. T-Mobile called me up with one of these offers and I made the mistake of accepting it because nothing was really changing, it was basically like getting the unlimited texts for free and a slightly lower monthly bill. My $30 dollar unlimited data plan wouldn’t change, so I thought. Wasn’t two days later I was hit with the text letting me know my speeds would be reduced until the start of the next billing cycle, 3 weeks away. At throttled speeds the data connection is all but useless. Don’t bite if you have TRULY unlimited data right now.

    • Guest

      I agree….data plan now is plus for 2G, premium for 5G and ultra for 10G. No one really know what the soft cap for really really old data plan. I have use more than 10G and not been throttled… maybe I just got lucky that month.

      • My old plan didn’t have any cap. I used over 50 gigs for several months in a row. You read that right, 50. I had that data plan since the Sidekick days. They changed it without asking me and now they claim it’s not even a choice in the system anymore, they can’t change it back. So now I pay $60 a month for data that leaves me throttled for most of the month. Can’t even watch a youtube video.

    • Guest

      I agree….data plan now is plus for 2G, premium for 5G and ultra for 10G. No one really know what the soft cap for really really old data plan. I have use more than 10G and not been throttled… maybe I just got lucky that month.

  • Jrp1311

    Hey guys.  I’m on an “Even More” plan.  If I change to the “Value Plan,” am I going to be stuck with an additional two years on my contract, or does it just replace the current two years I have?  Thanks for your help. 

    • Airvirgo09111979

      yes you will

    • Airvirgo09111979

      yes you will

  • Angarma1

    Leaving T-mo,  after so many years, wont be near the carrier when it finally succumbs to AT&T, one less T-Mo client. The divorce is final… see you T-Mo thaks for the good times…

  • Jparra2428

    Verizon looks entizcing

  • Sounds interesting, but a good benefit to me would be confirmation that if the AT&T option goes through we can either keep our rates locked in or walk away without paying early termination.  Then i might consider it.  We won’t be giving AT&T any money so no contract for us unless we can get out if the deal goes through.

  • Sounds interesting, but a good benefit to me would be confirmation that if the AT&T option goes through we can either keep our rates locked in or walk away without paying early termination.  Then i might consider it.  We won’t be giving AT&T any money so no contract for us unless we can get out if the deal goes through.

  • Kevin Hooke

    I had a T-Mo rep call me to discuss changing, but when we’d run through the numbers the new plan was going to be about $10 more expensive, for nothing more than what I currently get. Not sure how that works but I said ‘no thanks’. Seemed like a bizarre offer, but maybe I’ve ended up with something in my plan at a reduced rate somehow (been a customer now for around 6 years I think).

  • Anonymous

    Well I think you know now why you kept that off contract plan , pay as you go plan . Thank you DOJ .

  • entacto

    2 year contract…without discount phone?? Nay nay, and to lock the rate once tmobile merge to at&t? That means it locks u from shopping another carrier. Why re u so greedy?

    • Tinacarroll59

      Is the evenmore plan a contract plan??

      • peter tours

        no

      • peter tours

        no

  • st40611

    Honestly, reading these comments make me wonder – do people do some research before bashing on this new Value plan?

    1) If you have EM+, you do NOT pay a migration fee. The migration fee only applies if you are currently on a CONTRACT plan – which does not apply to EM+. EM and Classic plans user do have to pay a migration fee however, but since this news post is dealing with EM+ – answer is no.
    2) Yes, you can leave whenever you want if you stick on EM+ – but why would you want to leave when the Value plan guarantees you a good, cheap plan for 2 years even after the merger? My family used to have 1500 EM+ with unlimited texting, 3 lines and one line on the Smartphone data plan – comes out to be around $105 + tax. With the value plan at 1000 minutes and unlimited text and the same data plan, my bill comes to be only around $85 + tax, and this is before employee discount. And that pricing is GUARANTEED FOR 2 years. Honestly guys, I understand if you are on a grandfathered data plan which is -truly- unlimited – but for those who are not, why not the switch?
    3) The Value plan has more choices revolving the amount of voice, text and data.
    4) Both plans don’t give you phone subsidy, so I don’t understand this whole deal about phone subsidy.
    5) The value plan can be applied with student/employee/AAA discounts, while EM+ cannot.

    Remember, the 2-year contract can be both a good and a bad thing. The bad? you are stuck with the plan for 2 years. The good? the same – as you get to keep this plan legally even if AT&T merges with Tmo.

    Yes, I am defending this new Value plan of Tmo because it seems that a lot of people do not realize they could be saving a lot of money provided they know their facts.

    • Neoprimal

      I know where you’re coming from. I can only speak for myself here. I no longer care about phone subsidies, I was all about that when the rate plans weren’t as varied as they are now.
      I’ve done my homework. I’ve looked into the numbers and these new plans are EXTREMELY competitive and imho the best in the industry IF you have TMo service that works well wherever you live. For me, that’s the case. I’ve lived in SoFla and NoVa and TMo has been impeccable for me, thus my 8 years with them. Right now, something has changed with the plans – I’m almost sure that 1 didn’t require a commitment and now they both seem to so I don’t see a clear difference in classic vs. value.I’m on a Grandfathered Unlimited Family Plan where I pay ~90+20+24+15 (Family Plan, 2 lines+Unlimited Messaging+Unlimited Data on my line+200MB on other line). The bill is roughly $160 a month including all taxes, etc. which is less than I would get with any other carrier save for the smaller networks but I’m not interested in those, yet. This is comparable to the classic plan right now, though the data is lopsided in my case. I don’t really mind.My issue with the new plans really, is that after the acquisition, ATT (and I whole heartedly believe it’s a done deal and everything going on now is for ‘show’) could still make the cheaper plans hell for customers by artificially inflating the price of the phones. For example, they will offer it on-contract for say $200 but hike up non-commitment prices for phones to 1k+. Another possibility is, like TMobile has done, they will change the data plans. Completely remove TMobiles and offer some jacked up new plans to grandfathered customers. I believe ATT can and will do whatever they can to get what they want. Realistically they could potentially offer a world of hurt if they want people to switch to their rate plans and such. That is really my only fear and why I haven’t switched yet. 

    • 21stNow

      I’m one of those few people that would face a $5 increase to go to the Value Plan, if I wanted the same thing that I have under my EMP plan.

      The deal with the phone subsidy is that if I don’t take a phone subsidy, I don’t want a contract.  To have a contract and yet still pay full price for the phone seems strange to me, and not something that I want to be a part of.  I’m also not eligible for any discounts anyway. Hence, I will stay with EMP.

      Oh and more choices?  Voice minutes still bottom out at 500 minutes under the Value plans.  I need fewer minutes if I’m going to change plans.  200 minutes would still be too many for me, so the Value plans don’t offer me anything.

    • 21stNow

      I’m one of those few people that would face a $5 increase to go to the Value Plan, if I wanted the same thing that I have under my EMP plan.

      The deal with the phone subsidy is that if I don’t take a phone subsidy, I don’t want a contract.  To have a contract and yet still pay full price for the phone seems strange to me, and not something that I want to be a part of.  I’m also not eligible for any discounts anyway. Hence, I will stay with EMP.

      Oh and more choices?  Voice minutes still bottom out at 500 minutes under the Value plans.  I need fewer minutes if I’m going to change plans.  200 minutes would still be too many for me, so the Value plans don’t offer me anything.

      • Somnang Chea

        I’m with 21. I’m not getting anything with a the value, so why the contract, and the mandatory ETF. They’re not recouping any type of subsidy, and not exactly offering the value plans at a loss, so why the need for an absurd contract.

      • Somnang Chea

        I’m with 21. I’m not getting anything with a the value, so why the contract, and the mandatory ETF. They’re not recouping any type of subsidy, and not exactly offering the value plans at a loss, so why the need for an absurd contract.

      • Anonymous

        First post, I know I will probably be hated but I just want to help provide some deeper information on this situation.
         
        In a lot of case depending on the account, moving  to a Value plan can save our customers a good amount of money, in most cases it’s between $10-25 from their current EM+ plan and in a few situations I have seen savings in the $40-80 a month, but those are on older family plans mostly. Which does add up over those 24 months, and yes you are correct there are people like you who would not benefit from moving to a Value plan, but in no way are we trying to force it on you. As for not getting a phone discount with the Value plans, this is the way I like to explain it, and of course this mostly applies to new customers or CX wanting a new phone with discount, and on a 1-2 line basis.

        Here’s an example I will use. Let’s assume a customer came in and wants to buy a new phone and just one line, The CX wants an HTC Sensation 4G with the Unlimited T+T with the 2GB “Unlimited” Data option. Since he wants the phone discount he would have to go with a Classic plan, that specific plan before taxes is $79.99, the phone itself is $499.99 with a $250 instant discount and a $50 MIR, saving him $300 on the phone which he would then pay $199.99. So a lot of people say why should I pay full price for a phone WITH a contract, easy that same plan on the Value rate is $59.99 before taxes, a $20 savings. 20*24 is 480, so over the 24 month contract your saving $480, you then pay a down payment on the phone, for that phone it would be $199.99 and then over a 21 month period you would pay off the rest of the phone interest free, it would be an additional fee on the bill. In the end with the Value plan you would save $180 extra then by taking the phone discount in the beginning.

        If you have any questions please ask