myTouch HD Internal Doc Hints Toward FFC And America’s Largest “4G” Network

While most of the Android attention at T-Mobile these days is focused on the T-Mobile G2, the myTouch HD waits in the wings. We just received, via one of our ninjas, the above document showing off some early details on the myTouch HD. While there are still a lot of questions to be answered about this phone, like a true breakdown of specs, pricing and of course the release date, this document gives us a glimpse of what to expect. If truly a legitimate document, and we certainly don’t question our source, this will put to rest the matter of the front facing camera coming in the myTouch HD. Though, we do take note and wish to point out the claim that T-mobile has “America’s largest 4G network,” a claim Sprint might wish to question. With a 5.0 megapixel camera and a VGA (why??) front facing camera this phone is definitely going to be a welcome addition. Even more welcome? The verbiage here states that video chat will be allowed over 3G, HSPA+ and Wi-Fi networks. Take that AT&T! A screen-sharing feature for HDTV’s? Count me in; I’ll take two please. Oh, and a 1 GHz Dual Processor? Make that three, please. We’re certainly going to be pressing for more info on this phone but from what we see here, all signs point to a very welcome addition to the T-Mobile Android lineup.

The only previously known image of the myTouch HD follows below along with a larger version of the above document. You guys know what to do, dissect away.

(let it be known that Andrew won :-P, I beat you kick! – Andrew)

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  • Galen20K

    GETTING!

  • Jesus

    Thats the phone i saw that one time i emailed you … EXACTLY !!

    • Jesus

      @David BTW.

  • number58

    1 GHz Dual Processor?

  • Bob

    Specs look good. Except I would’ve liked at least a 4″ screen. But good to finally see a FFC on a t-mo phone. But I’m not sure the dual core 1GHz would be released anytime soon.

    • Brandon

      are you really complaining about .02 inches

  • TFJ4

    I might hold off on the G2 if its dual core….

    • Brandon
      • Omeer

        Brandon that article clearly states that Qualcomm won’t be shipping it’s 1.5 and 1.2 Ghz dual core chips till 2011 and this is a 1Ghz dual core. So, I wouldn’t jump to any conclusions just yet. It makes sense for T-mo to go all out with their MyTouch line since it’s their flagship device for the time being. Anyway here’s to hoping for the best!

      • Brandon

        There is no seperate 1Ghz snapdragon. Only the MSM8x60. Its up to 1.2Ghz. Again another article states those will be shipped Q4 but in devices Q1.

        http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html

        http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/08/qualcomm-1-5ghz-dual-core-snapdragon-devices-to-arrive-at-end-o/

      • Omeer

        OK I’m not saying you’re wrong but following the example of the G2 I’m going to say that the processor in the MTHD is in fact the 1.2 Ghz dual core chip from Qualcomm just underclocked to 1Ghz because T-mobile is stupid/smart like that. The scorpion processor in the G2 supports speeds of up to 1Ghz but T-mobile for whatever reason decided to keep it underclocked. I’m assuming it’s for battery life. I found two interesting articles (links below) one that states Qualcomm has already shipped dual core chips to HTC and another that says Qualcomm will ship dual core processors to HTC by the end of the year. What you take out of all this is subjective so I won’t argue it any further. I’m just very optimistic that this phone will be feature packed in every way but I guess we won’t know till we see an official announcement from T-mobile.

        http://www.pcworld.com/article/204947/lg_announces_smartphones_with_dualcore_processor.html

        http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2010/06/qualcomm_msm8260_and_msm8660_shipped_to_htc.html

      • Omeer

        OK if this document is legit I’m going to go on a limb and say that HTC did in fact switch to a different manufacturer from Qualcomm. The reason being: T-mobile/Qualcomm almost always states the name of the processor (if it’s high end and from Qualcomm) preceded by the clock speed for exmaple the HD2- 1Ghz “snapdragon” processor. I don’t know, we’ll see :/

      • Brandon

        Youre right. I forgot about that earlier article. That makes more sense. HTC with first dibs basically. We will soon find out the truth. LG is using Tegra so those will be out this yr. Said to be in the new Optimus phone.

      • Brandon

        Ok people are now paying attention to the wording. It says “Dual Processor” not Dual-core. For example, is this akin to having a dual Quad-core xeon PC instead of an 8 core xeon? Ive never heard of that when it in the mobile space.

      • Omeer

        Lolz it could mean a number of things…
        1) You’re thinking way too hard about it
        2) This document is a mock-up and the forger just forgot to type in the word “core”
        3) The document legit and that’s a genuine typographical error
        4) It’s not a single processor with two separate cores but two actual processors in one- probably the most unlikely scenario
        5) We’re nuts for contemplating this so hard- probably the most likely scenario

        After A LOT of research and brainstorming I feel pretty safe to assume this phone has one of Qualcomm’s dual core processors in it but it’s been underclocked due to battery issues. T-mo probably doesn’t want to go the way of EVO 4G and it’s battery sucking prowess when it’s running on 4G speeds. All the added functionalities of this phone would cause a strain on the battery so it makes sense to underclock it. Just my two cents.

      • Omeer

        The document “IS”**

  • 127

    Holy moly, this is getting exciting. FFC (not sure if i’ll use it), but that along with android is gonna make iphoners feel not so special anymore. I only hope the mytouch line doesn’t disappoint with hardware specs and stock android… I hope. But this phone is looking to be my replacement from my original MT3G

    • jose

      i bet my bottom dollar it comes with that expresso crap found on the SLide. tmo is gonna wanna keep the myTouch line uniform.

  • aLb3Rt

    I’ll be all over this badboy! Hhmmmm should i return my dell streak or have both? Hhhmmmmm

  • Brandon

    Dual Cores (at least from Qualcomm. HTC normally uses them) wont be shipped to manufacturers until Q4. Wont be seen in phones until Q1 2011.

    • Bob

      Those were the 1.5 GHz dual cores. We’ll see 1.5 GHz Dual core processors in handsets in Q4 2011.

    • ceas

      Sound about right… it most likely will be dual core 1.2, but since t-mo likes to under clock their phones it will be a 1ghz dual core.. this also makes sense since I’ve heard nothing of a manufacturer making a 1ghz dual core processor.

      • Brandon

        If shipping the chips was delayed until Q4, does that mean this phone is coming out early next yr? I doubt. Seems to be November. So the question is, did HTC switch from Qualcomm. Its been rumored they would switch to the Tegra 2

      • ceas

        I think it will be out next year.. maybe december this year.. It seems as if every phone on t-mobiles leaked timeline has been pushed back a couple of weeks.. but with the qualcomm dual core processosrs not being ready, i think we will see this in Q1 next year.

  • mtnman

    There’s the phone with the FFC that everyone as been wanting. I knew it had one when I first looked at the pics of it. Now it’s confirmed. Getting this one for sure.

    • Zoog

      Aren’t you special? Want a cookie?

      • mtnman

        Actually yeah, I’ll take Oatmean Rasin. lol

      • Foxeh

        OMG, I love Oatmeal Raisin!
        Still buying a G2 though. :P

  • John

    I am completely on board if it has UMA support. It has everything I would want and then some. No complaints from me.

  • Infamousbird

    I’m in but still hoping for 1080p. Please get rooted tho I want cyanogenmod 6

  • dustin

    Maybe this will finally put to rest the complaints of no FCC…or is ViGA not good enough lol

    • Brandon

      it will but everyone will complain that its not dual core. It has already started

      • Zoog

        Maybe you should learn to read, as it says that it IS a 1 ghz dual core.

      • Brandon

        It does say that. Im skeptical. The problem is HTC always uses Qualcomm. Qualcomm announced that they wont ship the dual cores to manufacturers until Q4 and handsets wont have them until Q1 2011. Dont see how this could have a dual snapdragon unless HTC switched chipsets, or this phone doesnt come out until next year. I dont know. Just waiting for more official info. http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/08/qualcomm-1-5ghz-dual-core-snapdragon-devices-to-arrive-at-end-o/

  • peter fitzenwell

    i just got surfboard sized wood xD !!!!

  • Derek

    This is going to be my next phone! =]
    I kinda wanted a physical keyboard tho for my next phone but this one looks too good to pass up! Haha

  • not4sakn

    I wish they changed up the appearance slightly and please, please, let it have larger than a 1300mah battery, atleast a 1500mah because the myTouch Slides battery is horrible. Also, any word on whether its running Sense or Vanilla Android?

    • Jesus

      100% sure it will have Expresso on it. Since thats their Own version of Sense.

    • alex32

      Yea this phone looks ugly, tmobile has to change the appearance..but that won’t happen. This is the legit photo shot. It’ll run expresso skin, the genius button on the right says it all. I’m getting the G2 which looks ten times nicer than this plus with vanilla android

    • BAM

      I hear (from an HTC rep) that it is part of the “Mytouch” lineup so it will have a similar HTC Sense skin, like the Mytouch Slide. The presence of the Genius Button sort of confirms that too. I prefer vanilla Android, but if they keep this one less cluttered and cumbersome than the MTS then it should be a killer device for the Tmo lineup!

  • Foxeh

    This ought to make a lot of people happy, though the 1GHz “Dual Processor” is an odd way to term that. Hopefully they wont have some misleading definition for that, but considering it’s in the same sentence as “America’s largest 4G network,” it does make me wonder.

    Still looks killer for those who don’t want a keyboard.

  • alex32

    Still getting the G2, what completely won me over the G2 compared to the mytouch hd is the simple fact of Vanilla Android skin. The Expresso Skin completely kills this phone. The specs on this phone us amazing I’m not gonna lie. I’ll wait for an ffc in two years, when the G3 comes out. I don’t mind not having one…when especially not a lot of people currently own a phone with ffc. For the guys who think an ffc is a dealbreaker..well thats just sad. 3.8 inch screen is a disappointment on this phone but the specs make up for that (even though expressoskin sucks). If this phone had vanilla android I’d wait and beall over it, but it doesn’t.

    • Brandon

      Im right there with you. Im still getting the G2

    • Foxeh

      I had forgotten about Espresso. I played with it a bit on the MyTouch Slide in store and though it was the most dreadful thing ever. >_<

      • alex32

        Yeah, I always thought of expresso skin as android for beginner users or for people using android for the first time…more like android virgins haha. The G2 with vanilla stock is for more experienced users. Tht how I sorta think of it haha. Expresso skin is dreadful, such a pain. G2 with vanilla android FTW

  • B

    3.8 in screen? What?

    • Barry

      I don’t get it ???

  • windycity

    whoa..this is it! I’ll surely get one for this.

  • Darrell

    The screen size on this device is perfect. A 4 inch display should be the max. Technology in mobile devices should make them sleeker not larger. Definitely my next mobile device!

  • yeah, screw the g2 and it’s stupid keyboard, I’ll get two of these for sure.

  • Brandon

    If this is really a dual core would that mean HTC went with another chip manufacturer besides Qualcomm?? Qualcomm dual cores have been delayed. Unless this phone was also delayed. This is a bit confusing

  • BAM

    The best part of the G2 is the vanilla android (faster updates, less glitchy) and HSPA+ (“4g”). I doubt the Mytouch HD is vanilla Android, but I HOPE it is HSPA+ too! It will be a big miss for Tmo if it’s not!

    • Nate

      It says HSPA+ right on the brochure.

  • mikeeeee

    looks like i’ll wait for my cliqXT upgrade and then wait for this one.

  • Carlos

    Although this phone is a BEAST!! I like it but im Still getting the g2 and if i like this phone then i will sell the g2 and buy it…

  • fatboy97

    Very interesting… this will make my job difficult in November choosing a new Smartphone… between this, the G2 and the Vibrant… what to choose???

    • tokinotabumblb

      I would choose this over all 3 of them. I would only choose G2 if you absolutely love QWERTY and vanilla Android.

      • Scott

        But you gotta be OK with 4-row qwerty where you never know where the ( % and $ keys are.

        Agreed, this phone looks very good. I can hang onto my G1 until it comes out.

  • MIAHEAT305

    Dual processor! With 1GHz Processor and HD screen! 720p Camera and VGA front facing camera. Plus, the MyTouch UI and when they root this BEAST its gonna be a MEGABEAST! Plus, video chat over 3G damn Sprint and AT&T better buy extra diapers. I’m gonna buy this baby probably for Christmas and buy me a pair of Dr Dre’s to use on this phone! Plus, I can use the Internet tethering from this BEAST for my new iPod Touch 4.

    • B

      Try to relax. And why did you mention sprint?

  • Original G1er

    I hope that’s not the actual phone, it looks cheap.

    As predicted, it will follow the cheap mytouch design. It’s a mytouch slide without the slide.

    It looks more of a teen/ soccer mom/family phone. 3.8″ screen? Does it come with HTC sense or stock android? It will most likely come with that unnecessary htc sense U.I overlay garbage…

    So far, this mytouch HD is in no way a tmobile flagship phone. People will not get excited and/or drop their carriers for this phone… This phone is very meh, ..when other better looking, keyboard less phones with bigger/better screens will come out in 2011 with dual cores in them.

    That phone in the above picture with it’s “specs” is a solid 7/10. Nothing to gush over on engadget or anywhere. But to each their own!

    • Foxeh

      That’s not entirely fair since they are quite vague about the specs. I’ve never been a fan of the myTouch line and the G2 simply appeals to me more, but T-Mobile is better for having this phone than not… all hypothetically speaking as it hasn’t been announced yet.

      Just… do me a favor and don’t fall into that trap of bashing every T-Mo phone that’s not the one you happen to be buying, kay? ;)

    • Well said, agreed 100% !!!

  • MIAHEAT305

    Can’t you remove the Mytouch UI and take it off as the default home screen and then can’t you just put the Vanilla UI as the default if that’s what you prefer?

  • bigmoe

    this phone is sexier than the G2!!!!!!! i will be getting this 1 when it comes out!:p

    • Original G1er

      This phone looks WORSE than the G2.

      Who cares if it’s dual core… to push that unnecessary awful htc expresso/sense?

      3.8″ screen?

      Cheap, ugly, teeny bopper mytouch design? Mytouch slide without the slide?

      The main selling point of this MytouchHD is the dual core…

      I’d wait for the better looking, better screen/specced phones to roll out in early 2011 which will have dual cores in them.

      7/10

    • growler

      you call this sexier than the G2? man…. what you smoking?

  • turboelise

    I MOST DEFINITELY WILL BE WAITING FOR THIS. I’m still rocking the G1 and had been debating whether or not to grab the G2 as it appeared Project Emerald was no where to be found….but now, I’m DEFINITELY going to wait.

    • Manny

      this is project emerald

  • growler

    If this is really a 1 ghz DC processor, would not hesitate on getting one, in fact who wants a G2 afterall?

    • Eddie Android

      Me

  • Rpinazo

    Definitely getting this! TMONEWS you did it again, came thru in the clutch! I laugh everytime I see someone talk bad about this site, but the truth of the matter is that your accuracy on news out weighs everything. BUT I BET YOU ANY MONEY THAT PEOPLE WILL STILL COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS PHONE…..OH WELL. This is what we have been asking for and thanks for delivering T-Mobile!

    • B

      It’s not about accuracy, it’s about hyping up lackluster topics.

  • =D

    Finally Tmobile has/will have phones that will let them compete with the other major carriers in the U.S: This, the G2, and the Vibrant (although the SGS is in the 4 major carriers in US).

    I wonder what else is coming? =D

    I’m still choosing G2.

  • 30014

    “A sleek ultra-thin family device”. Uh oh, getting ready for some lame marketing. I’m not bashing the phone, I just know tmo will screw it up with its ad campaign for the phone.

    • Original G1er

      LOL that’s what it is… a cheap teeny bopper, soccer mom/family phone. 3.8″ (dual core -which is a 2011 standard) with unnecessary HTC sense/expresso over it.

      Pass.

      No ones going to gush over/drop their carriers for this phone! Better looking/specced dual core phones will roll out in early 2011…….

      Dual cores will be a standard in 2011.. Better believe they will be NUMEROUS better looking phones packing better dual cores/screens…

      • Eddie Android

        Why don’t you just go to Verizon, Sprint or even AT&T since you worship Apple products. You’re another Mailman seriously.

      • Original G1er

        @Eddie Android…

        I’m an android supporter day 1 and i’m getting the G2. And defend it against less informed people saying it’s a FAIL cause of the number of MHz (800) the scorpion chip is clocked at.

        So relax.

        Mailman seriously? So it’s okay for the same people who bashed the G2 in it’s related threads, and now declare this mytouch HD a winner because it’s dual core? Despite it’s, not so large 3.8″ screen? With HTC sense/expresso? Cheaper, Teeny bopper mytouch design?

        I wasn’t dogging the mytouch HD on purpose originally. It was my honest, non biased opinion when I saw it and read it’s specs and came to conclusion. But now seeing the “this smokes the G2!!!” comments, I will shed some light on them.

  • DrMonkey

    Damn, I don’t know what to do.
    Take heed of the Samsung Vibrant BOGO, wait a couple of weeks for the G2, or wait for… whenever this comes out. D:

    • Foxeh

      Vibrant = Here and now.
      G2 = Physical Keyboard, HSPA+, Stock Android, LED Flash, Fancypants build quality
      Mytouch HD = FFC, HSPA+, LED Flash

      I believe it is a simple matter of what you want in am Android phone.

      • DrMonkey

        I guess I’ll go with the G2. The Vibrant doesn’t really have anything over the other two except for screen size. I won’t be using the FFC that much. And I’d rather have a physical keyboard and the stock android skin.

  • alex

    Definetley getting this!!!!!In white, i rewally cant wait!!!! With froyo,big screen, and no keyboard, 1ghz dual processor hopefully its the same as the g2 in other words adreno 205 this will replace my, mytouch 3g slide!!

  • christian

    David, can you please remind us the launched date for this device?

    • TMOprophet

      nov 3rd

  • tokinotabumblb

    The phone is nice and I’ve been waiting for this, but I’m a little disappointed. I was hoping the rumors were true that it would be a 4″ to a 4.3″ display and a 8MP camera…. Do you guys think I should upgrade to this phone, or keep my Slide and wait for next year’s new phones? I’ve been hoping for a 4″+ screen phone with a keyboard like the Epic or that nice Verizon one that’s coming up.

    • Original G1er

      Definintely wait till 2011. Way better looking dual-core phones with bigger/better screens etc will start rolling out…

      Seeing as Mytouch HD will come with HTC sense/expresso, there is nothing special about this phone other than the dual core.

      Dual-core CPU’s will be a standard in high end phones starting early 2011 if not earlier. Better believe they will better looking phones with bigger/screens/specs… in which you’ll be satisfied with.

      This 3.8″ Mytouch HD with HTC expresso/sense is not worth the upgrade IMO much less $400-500.

  • mtnman

    Well this is the Project Emerald that everyone has been wondering about. It has everything we’ve all wanted. A FFC, Camera w/Flash, Dual Processor. It’s not Stock Android, you can’t have everything ya want. Running 2.2 with Gingerbread too follow.

    I like this phone. It don’t have a 4″ screen but 3.8 is close enough for me. It’s not SAMOLED, but I’m sure it will be good enough. All I can say is Merry Christmas to me!

  • Darrell

    Man, no matter what device T-Mobile produces people will still complain. Before the G2 and MyTouch HD was announced there was nothing but complaints about the Android lineup. Now the devices that are being released are still not good enough. How about just switching carriers and let us common folk enjoy some nice mobile devices.

    • hi

      people complain because this device is just like the HTC EVO except worse (EVO has better camera and bigger screen).

      Now, keep in mind that the EVO was announced in freakin January and you start to get an idea of how unbelievably behind the competition T-Mobile is. That means, in one years time (A YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!) they were unable to come up with a single device to compete with the big boys……sad

      • Foxeh

        The EVO is hardly better.

        The EVO’s GPU is not nearly as good.
        It doesn’t do 802.11n.
        Data Bandwidth isn’t has high despite the add-on fee.

        More Megapixels does not equal quality pictures, but often the contrary. Capturing photos is a matter of capturing light. The larger each pixel on the sensor is, the more light it can capture. When you cram more megapixels onto a smaller sensor (a necessity for phones), that lowers your signal to noise ratio and just produces uglier pictures at larger file sizes. Companies do it anyway just to make a buck off of people who have no idea what they are doing.

        Screen size is a matter of preference and not so much superiority. However, trying to claim that the EVO is overall better is just not realistic, save for the fact that it grants three wishes including that for an iPhone 4.

    • Scott

      T-Mobile’s entire Android lineup is the Vibrant. Period. Everything else is obsolete junk that should have been end-of-lifed months ago (possible exception for the Charm because it’s so cheap and remember T-Mobile refused the N1).

      Can you blame people for complaining? Once the Vibrant, G2, and MTHD finally ship this nightmare of crappy handsets should be over.

  • Dave

    I tried to keep my Samsung Vibrant, but I LOVE the MyTouch line & these results the features. I really want. *is so putting my Vibrant go for sale on ebay & getting this*

  • jonathan

    So I’m just gonna throw this out there… I’m running the REAL Samsung GPS fix and wow, they really listened to customers this time around. I can’t believe how much this update improved the phone. It’s much much faster as well. I am still interested in the myTouch HD if it’s anything close to the pictures above. (I don’t like how it looks but I do like the specs.) However, an issue I’m having is that the Desire HD is 4.3″ and this only 3.8″? Uhh, that means this phone is pretty much a T-Mobile exclusive since larger screened Evo and Desire variants are elsewhere. Kinda makes me wonder…

  • somebody

    much better than the g2 but still waiting on hd7

    • hi

      I just pray you don’t think the hd7 is going to have the obviously fake specs that were “leaked” on this site a while back…..don’t get your hopes up dude

  • Midori

    I’m so happy I want this phone and thats the color I want it in,I wonder if they upped the amount of customiztion you can do?

  • I think the author missed the point of the 4G claim. It’s not claiming that we have 4G or will have 4G. It’s claiming that the FFC feature will work over multiple networks, say with the EVO on the largest 4G network, because really they aren’t gonna name Sprint in their marketing materials.

  • volcanic515

    son of a….I was just making plans for the G2 than they do this! Darn you t-mo! I gotta get the HD7 for my girl and the MyTouch HD for MEEEEEEEEEE!!! Its gonna take hella funds and planning since I’m on the Even More Plus plan.

  • That was a buzz kill since I thought they were gonna show some evidence that t-mobile is merging with sprint, but then I saw the article and realized the misunderstanding almost immediately.

    • B

      Soo you actually wanted that to happen?

  • Eddie Android

    I’m still getting the G2. No need for a dual core, ffc, HDMI,……unless the G2 doesn’t come in black.

  • Vision77

    I was really hoping for a 4″ screen….but this may just have to do…If not I will stay with my Nexus One a bit longer…

  • trini_pirate

    not quite. i’ll wait till q1

    • thaghost

      why does the haters always get the first comments. Are u crazy or silly? this is what all tmo customers been waiting for!! A top of the line phone. The g2 is definitely a good phone but umm…u could wait all u want, im getting this.

      • rolo

        let the church say amen ;-D

  • Frank

    OMFG THIS IS SO AMAZING, HD, HSPA+, FFC, DUAL CORE PROCESSOR! OMFG CANT WAIT!!!!!!

  • G1 user waiting on G2

    im getting the G2 no matter what and if within the 14 days some more specs come out on this phone then i will return the G2, but if not i wont care, ill be happy with my G2 like i am with my G1 right now.

  • mailman13877 (Evo 4G)

    Like i said..TMO should have made this their HSPA+ launch phone but their just not smart..Good thing i have my Evoooo FTW

    • tokinotabumblb

      Its “they’re”, not “their”. I guess you’re not that smart, either. Stop riding this site so damn hard. FTW!

      • abel2fresh4u

        lol

      • tmob4life

        Actually…. it’s their. “Their” shows possession. They’re is “they are”… think about it.

      • Maciek

        If I was tokinotabumblb, I’d put my head in sand. (P.S. T-Mo is my love of 9 years)

      • GrammarNazi

        Please stop trying to do my job.

      • chotpy

        LOL FAIL.

    • joe

      so your on sprint and yet you fallow and comment on tmonews? go back to sprintusers.com, if you can get there before your evo’s battery dies.

      • theBIGmack

        Best comment ever.

      • rolo

        where’s a thumb’s up icon when u need 1 ;-D

    • tortionist

      Evo is a piece of crap compared to the G2 and the MTHD. SO kiss that loser.

    • How is it bad marketing to introduce the g2 as their first hspa+ phone and the mytouch hd as their first 4g phone? They go along well with the network launches if this is all true. With your stubborn accusations, ability to not understand how to use there, their, and they’re, your great knowledge in business and marketing, and love for a phone bigger than your penis, I’d like to see how much better companies are ran under your great skills.

      • MW

        I am excited that T-Mobile is finally getting HSPA+ phones, where it is bad marketing/planning/management??? is there should have been at least one HSPA+ phone available the day they had a HSPA+ network. In fact they should have built up the hype before the launch date. T-Mobile can take a note from out of Sprint’s book. As I don’t like Sprint, I don’t follow Sprint, but due to availability of a 4G phone on the day that they had a 4G network and heavy advertising, I knew what was going on with Sprint. Due to Sprint’s timely advertising, many people who don’t have access to TmoNews believes that Sprint has the fastest network because they have 4G…yet you and I know better. This is definitely a step in the right direction, but increase the specs just a little more and I am turning in my Nexus

    • WeRoseFromTheAshes

      Why do you people hate others for expressing their wants?? Is it bad to have something other carriers have or DON’T HAVE YET?? Even though the evo was announced in January I think it will be miles better than whatever T-MO will put out for the next 6 months, but what I want to see is what VERIZON will put out! I think they’ll bring a game changer! VERIZON DROID X and SPRINT EVO 4G FOR THE WIN!!!!!!

    • tokinotabumblb

      Dumbasses, when he said “their just not smart”, its “they’re” or “they are”. Who wants to bury their head in the sand now?

  • DD_838

    After owing a G1 for the past 2 years I wouldn’t buy a “G 1000” if they made it. T-Mobile has been harassing me to upgrade, but I’m sitting tight till this phone gets released.

    • going_home

      Funny…
      I was on the original G1 prebuy for existing TMO customers and my contract runs out in less than 3 weeks and I’ve not heard a peep from TMO.
      Is it because they know I have a Nexus ?

      Man I’m torn on this deal, I want the G2 with the vanilla Android but the MTHD looks to be the real superphone we’ve all been begging for.

      My only concern is as always Android updates, will it get Gingerbread ?
      What about Honeycomb ?

      :o

  • Wilma Flintstone

    Dag, I wanted the screen to be 4.3 inches.

    At this rate, I’m not sure what to do about replacing my HD2. I want to replace it with another 4.3, with android 2.2, Dual Core processor, a FFC and TV out phone but Tmo seems to have been avoiding such a device.

    Come on Tmo, I’ve been having too many issues (hardware and software)out of the now 4 HD2’s I’ve gone through and I don’t want the HD2 anymore.

    • Bart The Truth

      put android on it. use this resource. http://www.xda-developers.com I do a lil devvin there myself

    • I wouldn’t buy this phone if it was 4.3 inches. I’ll feel more comfortable between 3.5-4 anything bigger is pushing it, anything smaller just isn’t big enough.

    • NYCertified

      Install a custom ROM on your HD2. Makes a big difference. If your still not happy install Vanilla Android 2.2 on it. (Tough on battery life, think EVO) Works beautifully. Very easy how to’s on XDA or the unlockr.com.

    • cellswag

      If you want a phone that has a 4.3 inch screen then wait for the hd3 its windows 7 but I’m sure they will get android on it some how.

      • Wilma Flintstone

        @Bart the Truth
        I got darkstone Android but if the one you recommend is different and better, I’ll try that. Thanks.

        @Killah Kyle
        Good to know your opinion but “I” want an Android superphone with 4.3 screen that feels much more comfortable to “ME”, FFc, Dual Core, and has some kind of TV out. It makes no sense whatsoever that the HD2 doesn’t have an HDMI out port and cant record HD Video.

        @NYcertified
        Ok I’ll look into that. I like the Evo alot but if it’s tough on Battery, I may need to buy more bateries. Thanks.

        @cellswag
        Unfortunately that may be what I have to do. After all the problems I’ve had with these HD2’s, anything Windows on a phone has lost alot of appeal to me. I’m a Symbian/Maemo/Meego fan and wanted to get off my very durable Nokia 3220 so I started looking and I wanted to try out WinMo to see why people liked and disliked it sooo much. It was ok for the first few weeks but then, it just started glitching and going downhill from there. I would go into the issues but I’ll digress. I love the Sense Overlay though. That’s what got me VERY skeptical about Windows Phone 7. When Xda get Android on the HD3 though, I’ll probably try it out.

        @all that helped
        Thanks all for the tips and I have Darkstone’s Android 2.2 on here through bootloader. I still REALLY have been wanting a FFC since the Nokia N95. So hopefully if the HD3 has a FFC on it and a TV out, then I’ll be a happy camper once xda slaps Android on it. I need to see specs of the HD3 now. Thanks again.

  • Something really doesn’t line up with that processor. Qualcomm’s dual cores are delayed, so either “dual processor” means something other than dual core…or HTC went with a different chip maker…or this phone isn’t made by HTC. Honestly, the first option is what seems most likely. Time will tell, I suppose.

    • ceas

      I don’t think this phone will be out this year… and if there is one already out there its just a prototype… i think this phone will be held back until they fix whatever issues Qualcomm is having with their dual core processors… unless they decide to change the processor for a signal core… you never know, they might change the specs at the last minute.

      • Danny

        No it will be out this year no worries about that. The leaked road map is right for the most part sans maybe some release dates are different. I still hate Android and can’t wait for WP7 but I also work for magenta and this will be a very great phone for a lot of our customers who keep asking me if our phones have a FFC lol. The Mytouch line works well, as a majority of the customer base that I deal with usually come in looking for the MT3GS. They come in asking about the genius button so when this phone launches and with our HSPA+ network I believe we will do a ton of business probably more upgrades. I just hope we advertise the phone properly as well as keeping the expansion of HSPA+ timely and swiftly.

    • Brandon

      yea ive been repeating that for an hr. People think im stupid/crazy lol. I was pointed to this article though. Makes a bit more sense now. http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2010/06/qualcomm_msm8260_and_msm8660_shipped_to_htc.html

  • trife

    Awesome specs. Horrible aesthetics and design. Looks cheap and “teen-ish” to me, like the other MyTouch devices.

    PASS.

    Give me these specs in some grown-a$$ man hardware and I’d be all over it.

    • Original G1er

      LOL Well said.

      Putting the dual core in this phone first is kind of hilarious.

      It’s like a tuned twin turbo nitrous injected 1980’s 2 door hatchback Yugo sleeper.

      • Yyevo

        Moron.

    • I completely agree with you on this. It is shaped almost exactly like a cliq… yuck. On paper this phone is all i ever wanted, but damn it is ugly!

  • jazzmanmonty

    very interesting. now i question how legitimate this document is, like the one that came out for the G2 with the scorpion holding it which seemed too cheesy for tmobile advertising. Though this one looks a bit more legit, some of the wording is also questionable. It has certainly got my attention and making me question holding off on the G2 (i love the keyboard but the new texting system they speak of here may be good enough) another thing i find fishy is that all articles i’ve read about dual core processors seem to be 1.2 and 1.5 ghz to release next year. i haven’t ready about any manufacturer making a 1 ghz dual core yet. has anyone?

    Regardless, very excited is most of the specs hold true.

    • ceas

      The G2 with the scorpion holding it was real.. it was on there website ..t-mobile.com

    • Foxeh

      “i haven’t ready about any manufacturer making a 1 ghz dual core yet. has anyone?”

      According to Wikipedia:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_%28processor%29

      None of Qualcomm’s planned Dual-cores are at 1GHz, at least not for a maximum clock. Of course. The G2’s maximum clock is 1GHz, but it will be shipped at 800MHz. The availability column in this article is a bit dated as none of the dual-cores will land this year.

      So either this phone will be delayed, use non-Qualcomm components or not be dual-core. Who knows when this brochure was made, this could be a truly unfortunate leak.

      • JM77

        I agree, I think this may be an early internal mock up for the mytouch hd.

        All my research led me to believe several weeks ago that the G2 would have the msm7230 (I was correct) and the mytouch hd would have the msm8x50a a single core 1.3ghz chip probably clocked at 1.2ghz. Either HTC is going with a different manufacturer (very unlikely), or this brochure is old. Tmo surely expected to have the dual core chips ready in time, but they were delayed.

        Of course I could have been flat out wrong this whole time…

      • Foxeh

        That logic is sound in the very least. T-Mobile may have been planning to pitch their HSPA+ upgrade as straight up 4G if this truly is a dated brochure. It fits the old schedule of dual-core Qualcomms as well, though they weren’t said to be at 1GHz.

        Something seems to be off with this ad, though. The pieces don’t seem to be lining up.

  • TMOprophet

    Great find guys, nice to finally see some hard evidence on this phone, specs look good, but I am disappointed that its not a 4.3in screen…and yes its a deal breaker for me..sorry gys, I dont care what anyone says, once you mess with one, its hard to image anything else.

    However congrats to TMO for stepping up the android lineup.

    I guess we wont be seeing a 4.3in Android device anytime soon from TMO :(

    I like the G2 and this one, but I wont be getting either of them.

    • Barry

      I’m still puzzled by the lack of a 4.3″ android device. Not hating but I’m not sure if this is for me but I can’t wait to see it.

      • GPL

        I agree. Disappointed once again. What is it with TMo’s inability to deliver large screen Android phones? (ones with a GPS that works.) I already have an N1, so there’s no incentive to commit to another 2 year extension for a small screen.

      • Danny

        Well if you guys recall Android 2.xx or Honeycomb was pushed back to q1 of next year. That goes with T-Mobile pushing back one of its phones to q1 and if I recall that new 4.3 inch “Sidekick” replacement super android phone was supposed to be the launch phone for the next iteration of android. As well as two phones (G2 and Mytouch HD) got moved up on the release dates.. To me I say why push forward two great lunches and move back one superphone launch what could be better then launching a 4.3 inch superphone, after all the other carriers got theirs out of the way and the buzz dies down. espcially around the holiday season??? iPhone anyone. I mean I’m hearing Verizon and us (Magenta) will be getting this phone in Jan but if you could get it on your HSPA+ network by x-mas even if it was just the 3gs and have a sweet sell on it…. Your talking alot of new customers. Yes I work for T-Mobile but this is all just my speculation boys. I know exactly what you know I get told nothing more nothing less.

  • TMOprophet

    Oh and on the dual processor, its likely one of the second gen ones, that runs up to 1.2Ghz and uses a seperate processor for other crap, I am sure someone posted a link to the specifics from qualcomm

    • J-Hop2o6

      @TmoProphet.. Qualcomm Dual-cores are 3rd Gen [8X60 & 8672].. their 2nd Gen [7X30, 8X50a] are just “enhancements” to the 1st Gen. [8X50]

      • JM77

        IMO, I would call it more than enhancements because the 2nd gen chips are built on 45nm technology and also have a different gpu on board (adreno 205). True it uses the same scorpion cpu architecture found in the 65nm snapdragon, but I think its fair to call these next gen chips and not simply enhancements.

      • J-Hop2o6

        those are the “enhancements” i was talkin about.. i didn’t feel like writing it all out.. but those are highly needed enhancements.. especially the upgraded GPU to Adreno 205 and the 45nm tech.

        Now 3rd Gen will be a big upgrade because of it being dual-core and upgraded GPU to Adreno 220.

    • tcky

      @TMOprophet
      but isn’t that dual processor better than a single one?( 1GHZ snapdragons)

      • TMOprophet

        Yeah, but its not a dual core, I dont know the specifics of how the user experience will differ, but I think dual core would be much better than dual processors.

        They sound the same, but they are not. However like the G2 the myTouch Hd will be plenty fast, much like the Vibrant on Froyo. I would say these will be comparable..performance wise.

        The True Dual cores next year will be the game changers.

  • angelo

    this phone is beast.

    • thaghost

      +100

    • TMOprophet

      Its ok, I wouldn’t go that far though

  • alex

    T-mobile is the best hopefully they don’t charge extra for HSPA+, and this has nearly/all all the specs I want;
    Mytouch HD(Codenamed HTC Unstoppable)
    *New Sense UI you have the option to turn HTC Sense off or take out bubbles
    *5mp/8mp-check
    *1ghz snapdragon-check
    *Android 2.2/Gingerbread-check
    *Comes in white, red, and black-check
    *Loads of accessories-check
    *3.7-4.0 screen SLCD screen-half check due to screen, but don’t really mind so check
    *Includes 8/16gb micro SD card expandable to 32gb-check
    *4g of internal storage-check
    *Touch Sensitive track pad like the my touch slide-check
    *HSPA+ Device-check
    *3.5mm audio jack-check
    *Camera/video takes 720/1080p HD resolution-check
    *Xenon Flash/Led Flash-check
    *Camera in front-check
    *Very slim-check
    *Pre-loaded with Flash 10.1/downloadable-check
    * default on-screen keyboard is swype-check
    *My modes-check
    *Genius Button-check
    *divx/avi/xvid support-idk
    *Faves Gallery-check
    *7/9 customizable screen-check
    *Mini HDMI output-idk
    *Has four hard key buttons/touch, Menu, Genius Button, Back, and home-check
    *Supports froyo’s tethering, and mobile hotspot-hopefully
    *more features

  • ceas

    Well looks like I’m going with the G2 over this.. The 3.8 screen was the deal breaker.. I was debating between this and the G2 because I figured that if it indeed did have the 4.3 screen, there wouldn’t be a need for a physical keyboard… the ffc does not matter to me because I wont use it… hopefully this time next year, when I’m ready to upgrade again, there will be some better phones out… until then I’ll be happy with my G2.. So T-Mobile if your reading this…. HURRY UP WITH THE G2 RELEASE!!!!

    • SimplyAmazing

      I couldn’t agree with you more however, I just went to a T-mobile store and tried to get my girlfriend a new Cliq cuz hers got stuck at the loading screen. He said there was nothing he could do, and so I convinced her to wait for the G2 and he chimed in and said “yeah it comes in at the end of October”, I quickly snapped and said “you mean beginning right? and he justified that he went in for training and heard around “Halloween time” is when the launch of G2 is coming. I hope to hell he is wrong but IDK :S

  • TMOprophet

    Its not a Dual Core processor people..its says Dual Processor..there’s a difference.

    If were somehow a dual core, it would be the 1.2Ghz, however the wording they use here suggests that its one of the enhanced second gen snapdragon processors, probably very similar to what’s in the G2 (if not the same..just clocked faster)

    Dont over hype this one, its nice, but its not the super dual core thats been rumored for a long time. We wont see that until next year.

    • ceas

      well that make sense.. i didn’t catch that.. so what do they mean by dual processor?? do they mean like separate cpu and gpu??

      • TMOprophet

        The core processor and a seperate applications processor

        Correct me if Im wrong, but I think the G2 will use this as well

        So NO this is not a dual core device..keyword here is CORE

      • Foxeh

        I had similar suspicions but I wasn’t specific about them on the first page of comments (this is page 2). It says “dual processor” right above “America’s largest 4G network.” That just has sleaze written all over it.

        “Dual Processor” generally implies two physical chips. The G2 I believe has a few cores to handle media, cellular radio and that general phone stuffs, but I’m not entirely sure how that works.

        Considering people freaked that the G2 wasn’t a 1.5GHz dual-core, I wouldn’t be surprised if the exact same thing happened again with the myTouch.

    • JM77

      Good points tmoprophet and foxeh. If this was an early internal mock up then that would explain the use of language like 4g network as opposed to 4g like speeds.

      The G2’s 7230 processor does process os and applications data separately. So perhaps dual processor is misleading language. I was pretty certain this phone would use the 8x50a chip.

      • Foxeh

        It woould make sense. Much like the original MyTouch was a followup of the G1, the MyTouch HD could be the followup to the G2. My initial reaction was that it seemed odd that the HD was going to be such a large departure so soon, but there are important things to consider.

        If it turns out that MyTouch HD really does comes out with another MSM7x30 I’m going to laugh to tears… but an 8×55 seems the more probable.

      • JM77

        I bet thats it! The 8×55 is the mytouch hd chip. One of those chips will be in that phone and tmo better hope this story doesn’t go beyond this forum.

        It will be bad for business. Everyone’s expectations are raised and dashed again and again. Tmo has to start releasing factual info a couple months before launch, because that when rumors prevail over common sense.

        I think that what is happening here. Just like with the G2 and HD7. We all have an ultimate phone in our head and then it takes but a whisper of a rumor to get us worked up into a frenzy of excitement…..But then the real specs are released, And NOOO’s and FAAAILs fall from every rooftop. Cursing these very good but not perfect phones. Bad marketing. Very bad.

  • NiiDiddy

    I’m DEFINITELY getting this in addition to my Vibrant!!! WOW…. :)

  • mjN1

    Nice addition to tmo’s line up. Not sure if this would be my next phone. Screen could atleat be 4″, I really thought it would be the Desire HD. This looks like a MyTouch slide. No offense to the MyTouch slide users, it is preference I guess.

  • Sean

    Unfortunately, not impressed with this phone.
    1. Design is lame. Looks cheap and, like someone else posted, teenish.
    2. They put their crappy bloatware on it. It doesn’t need that crappy genius button…android 2.2 handles voice to text on its own.
    3. They dropped the ball with screen size. This should have been another 4.3 inch screen…that’s what the people want.
    4. With the bloatware I’m assuming this is also gonna have some manufacturer UI….Can we please have a vanilla Android superphone? ?

    • alex

      Actually I wanted 3.7-4 inches, so yeh :p

  • Tony

    When this comes out, it will drive down the price for every other phone. I’m betting you the MyTouch HD for $99 on Black Friday, with the G2 at $49 and the MTSlide and Vibrant for free.

    • phonegeek

      you just made me want to wait till black friday lol

  • Tim

    The phone is great spec wise, but I don’t like the mytouch look. I want T-Mobile USA to get something like the desire HD hardware wise and aesthetic wise. A real winner for me would be at least a 4″ screen with super Amoled technology or something better, as well as a higher resolution screen. Hardware keyboard would be nice. Can’t have everything though! I think this will sell great to the younger “trendy” market that was into sidekicks and such. Magenta might just be making a smart move in releasing this phone, so long as the release of a “man’s phone” is around the corner. Personally, I might go with a G2 from my N1 for now since I miss having a physical keyboard.

  • Chris

    I Think i just had a nerdgasm O_O

  • bluepenny65

    Anything less than a 4.3″ screen, 8MP camera, 8GB internal memory from TMO is infamy……….gosh!! With these several months after Epic, EVO, Droid X’s release, Tmobile still can’t output a superior Android device? My NexusOne is still on the same level with those MTHD specs if they are true in any way.

    3.8″?? WTF am I supposed to do with that in Q4??

  • rOB

    how come no one ever is happy, there is always something to complain about?

    • TMOprophet

      Cause TMO wont just launch a 4.3in Android phone, that’s the what it all comes down to, the majority of the complainers (myself included) have been waiting for one of these ever since they released the HD2, only to find out we were getting mocked, TMO knows that Android on a 4.3in phone would kill. I honestly cant figure out why they are not making one available..its like carrier suicide, or plain dont give a crap what customers want attitude.

    • Foxeh

      People can’t be happy. When the G2 was named, it was largly about the FFC and clock speed. This particular leak doesn’t verify as much as people are assuming, but it’s still enough to be a problem.

      We just can’t have good things. :P

  • McParty

    I guess no one here reads any Android sites?? Dual core by Nvidia and by Samsung are going to be used in phones 4th Q. Qualcomm is not the only chipmaker but they did say their dual core will not be ready until 2011

    • TMOprophet

      I indeed follow the other sites, the dual core from HTC that is delayed is the 1.5Ghz version, the 1.2Ghz one will still come next year qt 1.

      THe delay is caused by underperforming graphic chip used by htc and qualcomm the adreno, however the adreno 220 is said to be very powerful, so we will have to wait and see. They want to make sure they have a competitive graphics chip before shipping their dual core processors. So far samsung is at the top of that paticular game, and with the news of their new Orion dual core processor, the dual core war is just heating up.

      • McParty

        LOL, I was talking to the people who seem to think that Qualcomm is the only one working on Dual Core processors.

      • Foxeh

        Generally HTC uses Qualcomm chips and it does seem unlikely that they’ll find another partner on such short notice to completely re-architect the device so they can please the blog commentators who want nothing less than the latest chipset rumors to come to fruition with the next device announcement.

        I’m not saying that the MyTouch HD won’t have a dual-core Tegra, but I will most certainly be surprised!

  • anothauser

    the drive mode sounds cool too

    • MattB

      MyTouch Slide has this with last months software update…

  • nerd lust

    when is the release date?

  • JoshL

    I guess I am one of the only ones that that thinks that phone is really ugly…. ‘genuis button’ *shudder* but that’s just my opinion. the specs are pretty great. good job t-mo! kinda wish those specs were in the G2, but I like the way the G2 looks, so I’m going with it instead.

  • dsim91

    3.8 inch screen what a joke 4+ is the way to go, and if anybody says different. let me ask you did you ever have one that big, and how long did you carry it.

  • Vibrant Guy

    Well, this will be my next phone from T-Mobile. It looks cool, and appears that it will be a lot of fun to use (from what I read in the specs). I’m not a fan of the mytouch UI, but I could get used to it. The thinnest of my Vibrant would be nice on this phone, but we shall see. It looks really nice, and should prove to be a real power house!!! T-Mobile needs a few good phones in their lineup, and a steady network that can handle the powerful phones coming. Let’s wait to find out what we hear next on this one…

  • En2Mente

    Dual core means 2 in 1, but dual means 2 individual. It could mean that it will have two 1GHz processors.

  • MightyAB

    Geez you people are never happy. It needs this it needs that if you don’t want it don’t get it quit complaining. The phone and the specs alone are top notch who cares about a 4.3 screen it will have a accelerometer so if you need to text turn it to the side oh wait sorry people are gettingto lazy nowadays to even do that to much work. I remember when cell phone companys were trying to make the smallest coolest cell phones that people wanted and now all they want is a huge brick of a phone. Go buy Zach Morris’ phone if you want a big phone. This phone and the G2 are going to be top of the line Android phones on any networks lineup so just be frakking happy.

    • Vibrant Guy

      agreed…

    • TMOprophet

      Disagreed, a larger screen does not mean it is a bulkier phone,

      A larger screen allows for a richer multimedia experience and better web browsing, go back to squinting at everything on your tiny screened phone.

      • MightyAB

        Disagree look at the samsung vibrant

      • MightyAB

        Disagree look at the samsung vibrant yeah it has a amoled screen and all but I feel you don’t need a full 4.0 screen to het great resolution. Don’t dog on something you haven’t seen in person yet

      • TMOprophet

        The vibrant has a 4in screen, thats a little bigger than your run of the mill android..not the biggest, but its up there

      • TMOprophet

        I have seen the Vibrant in person, screen is pretty, but the bigger the better it will look, and be easier to look at. I agree there is a reasonable size limit, but 4.3 is not too big.

      • mightyab

        True but look at the iPhone (far from an apple fan) its 3.5 inch screen and you don’t get any blurred pixel even when zoomed in all the way and the screen is clear as day also. If the manufacturing company would just up the resolution on the phones everything will be great

    • Sean

      The bigger screen is not for texting…its for those of us who use the phone for web surfing…the bigger the screen, the better the experience….and believe me…this holds true. I had the Nexus One…and loved it…except for the screen being too narrow…the HD2 was a perfect size screen, unfortunately the OS was crap! The Vibrant is great for now, with its 4 inch super amo, but I’m really “craving” a 4.3 with front facing camera running Android 2.2 or above!

  • Wiineedmore

    This will be released nov. 5

  • nerd lust

    @ Wiineedmore
    Thanks!
    Vibrant or G2 or Mytouch hd or BB9780! Im so lost! My 8900 is getting long in the tooth!

  • Barry

    Ok officially reserving judgment on this until more concrete info comes out.

    • JM77

      Probably the smartest comment I’ve read!

  • Joshuakprice1

    I also have to question this. There is no way a dual core 1 gig processor is being released in a phone in the timeline we have been hearing for this phone. I already thought this picture was fake, so that would mesh, and the mytouch could still be the desire hd. 3.8 is also kind of small, doesn’t make sense for tmo to release a 4.3 for wp7 but not android. I may look stupid for saying it, but I’m sticking to my guns.

  • shawn

    the my touch HD is better than the G2 sorry 2 say hurts but its true!!

    • Vibrant Guy

      Yes, I agree. Only because I do not like keyboards.

    • jmc987

      @shawn
      3.8 screen, 5MP cam, expresso skin, 1GHZ Dual “not core” processor. Whats so exciting about that??? G2 FTW!

  • We’ve seen 3.7 on phones. Why did they go to 3.8? I’m not sure about this phone. I’m tempted to stay with G2 stock android and get my updates on time and not have to worry about having to hack the phone to work right. I think my FFC fix will have to come from the Galaxy Tab. I’ve lost faith in Magenta getting a good 4″ phone (not 3.7, not 3.8) done properly. With all the fragmentation in the ecosystem I’m also tempted to wait on the Iphone.

  • Shawn

    Dual processor people, not dual core.

    • TMOprophet

      x2..again..they are only seeing what they want to see..lol, not what it actually says..

      • Brandon

        not sure if i want to stick around once the real specs come out. Then they will blame tmobile even though they took this rumor as fact lol.

  • WeRoseFromTheAshes

    This phone is a total fail!! Its specs are obviously a fail! If T-Mobile really wanted a game changer it should have a 4.3 inch SAMOLED screen and a better front cam meaning better than this crappy VGA cam that everyone else has. Same thing with the G2 it has a crappy 4 row keyboard and a trash 800mhz processor with no front cam! Also the flash should be at dual or xenon. The Verizon version of the G2 I think it’s called the Droid Pro will be loads better than the Piece of sh*t T-Mobile phone. Can’t wait till my contract is over in February. VERIZON FOREVER!!!

    • JM77

      Never swear loyalty to any carrier. They would screw over their own mothers for an additional monthly fee! Be smart.

    • Frank

      What are you even doing here? Like really? get a life.

      • WeRoseFromTheAshes

        Expressing my opinion what about you?

  • ov1

    I think it has a great look. Other than the screen how is the vibrant better than the g2

    • Vibrant Guy

      It really boils down to what you like in a phone. Keyboard vs no keyboard; thickness; stock android vs customized UI; size of screen; or whatever else you can think of…

  • WeRoseFromTheAshes

    This phone is a total fail!! Its specs are obviously a fail! If T-Mobile really wanted a game changer it should have a 4.3 inch SAMOLED screen and a better front cam meaning better than this crappy VGA cam that everyone else has. Same thing with the G2 it has a crappy 4 row keyboard and a trash 800mhz processor with no front cam! Also the flash should be at dual or xenon. The Verizon version of the G2 I think it’s called the Droid Pro will be loads better than the Piece of sh*t T-Mobile phone. Can’t wait till my contract is over in February. VERIZON FOREVER!!!

    • Brandon

      You do realize there is a S AMOLED shortage. No one has them except Samsung (because they make them). All HTC phones are being replaced with SLCD. Droid Incredible doesnt have AMOLED anymore. Get your fact straight. Go to Verizon and stop screaming. Enjoy Bing on your phone.

  • WeRoseFromTheAshes

    This phone is a total fail!! Its specs are obviously a fail! If T-Mobile really wanted a game changer it should have a 4.3 inch SAMOLED screen and a better front cam meaning better than this crappy VGA cam that everyone else has. Same thing with the G2 it has a crappy 4 row keyboard and a trash 800mhz processor with no front cam! Also the flash should be at dual or xenon. The Verizon version of the G2 I think it’s called the Droid Pro will be loads better than the Piece of sh*t T-Mobile phone. Can’t wait till my contract is over in February. VERIZON FOREVER!

    • TMOprophet

      I would tend to agree with most of your points, but now Verizon is using BING for many of their future android phones..yuck

      • WeRoseFromTheAshes

        True true but I read somewhere on engadget that they’re not going to use bing for all their phones. I hope they don’t have bing on their high end phones.

      • TMOprophet

        If not for that issue, I would probably switch, but it seems like no one can get it right lately.

        It could be that they are shying away from 4.3in screens due to concerns of shortages..

      • WeRoseFromTheAshes

        If by unfortunate luck they still use BING for their high end phones I’ll just have to root it and remove BING someway

  • Jonathan

    Hate the design, YUCK! :( MAJOR FAIL!

  • WeRoseFromTheAshes

    woah triple post sry

  • speedracer

    What is wrong with T-Mobile?! I have been holding out for the great phones that should be coming out only to be disappointed! How can you have a super phone have the great hardware and speed only to let people down with a small screen and UGLY phone design?! Either T-Mobile has some really stupid designers or HTC just wants to screw T-Mobile.

  • speedracer

    What is wrong with T-Mobile?! I have been holding out for the great phones that should be coming out only to be disappointed! How can you have a super phone have the great hardware and speed only to let people down with a small screen and UGLY phone design?! Either T-Mobile has some really stupid designers or HTC just wants to screw T-Mobile!?

    • WeRoseFromTheAshes

      Agreed this is an ugly phone with horrible specs!! Although I think next year will be a great year……… for all the other carriers like VERIZON AND SPRINT idk bout AT&T though…. but I know for sure T-Mobile will LOSE ALL THE TIME they are the shasta of the cell phone industry and VERIZON AND SPRINT ARE COKE AND MOUNTAIN DEW!

      • Galen20K

        you are so retarded, you know that right?

  • mtnman

    Well if 2010 is any indication as to what the cell phone world has in store for us this year, I can’t wait to see what’s coming. The line between phone and computer has been blurring for years now, and it’s only going to get worst. Programmers and designers are at the drawing boards now as well type thinking of things you and I haven’t even dreamed of yet.

    After all we can watch HDTV programs on our phones now, surf the web, take high quality pictures, have your phones GPS guide you across county, set up and remind you of appointments and events, read books, download movies, and much more. The only thing that I’d like to see is a battery that can recharge it’s self so you never have to plug it in again. lol

  • speedracer

    Can we start a petition or something to tell T-mobile that their phone selections suck?! Give Something that people really want and set yourself apart from the competition!!!

  • TMOprophet

    Anyone catch the “T-Mobile is a leader and innovator in Android Technology” line from that image…lol

    • Brandon

      Really not buying this brochure. Maybe its old. Not final yet. Something. Few things dont sit right with me.

      • TMOprophet

        I suppose it could be fake, but it seems overly arrogant enough to seem legit to me.

  • dominico

    this is NOT an official T-Mobile document…. i repeat NOT an official T-Mobile “Grab & Go Document”. i work for the company and all of the grab n go’s have the T-Mobile confidential document stamp, the grab n go graphics are completely different.. i looked thru the Grab & Go archives and this is nowhere to be found. just putting in my 2 cents. grab n go’s are only posted when something is officially announced or released…

    • Sean

      I work for them to…and this definitely sound like their jargon. Also looks like their font choices and color schemes for their web pages…

  • eYe

    I really like this phone. I always like MTS’s looks but the moment I opened that awful keyboard was the moment I decided to not get it. This one has it all: MyTouch look, big enough screen, nice stuff under the hood. The only thing that I’m not sure about is that Espresso skin. Original Sense is very nice, Tmo kinda effed up this one. We’ll see… too many choices now!

    • Phonegeek

      I’m not an espresso fan myself but to eachs own I wish this had sense therm I wouldn’t think twice

    • Reece

      If the specs on this phone is real then I’m taking it with all the crapware they can throw on it since it’s something that would probably be rooted with ease by the modding crew @ XDA

    • JohnB

      It is strange that they call this “dual-process” instead of “dual-core”. Qualcomm has 3 models that possibly uses 1GHz clock:

      QSD8x50 – this would blow. Its the current generation Snapdragon that blows in GPU performance.
      MSM8x55 – this one is rated at 1GHz but it looks to be a 1GHz version of MSM7x30 (found in HTC G2), which means its a single core.
      MSM8x60 – this is a 3rd gen Snapdragon. It is a dual-core and it does run up to 1.2GHz. But I feel this one is not market-ready yet.

      Lets hope for the sake of us, it is MSM8x60. Based on what’s written here, it would be pretty good. :)

      http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/forum/index.php?/topic/73-analysis-of-qualcomm-msm8x60-msm8260msm8660-12ghz-dual-core-snapdragon-processor/page__pid__86#entry86

      But more likely it is MSM8x55 with some marketing ploy as MSM8x60 should not be ready for the market yet. :(

      • TMOprophet

        It will likely be the MSM8x55. As you mentioned.

  • mtnman

    I really don’t understand it. People have been complaining that Tmo doesn’t have a phone that has a FFC and now they have one that you don’t need be on WiFi to make a video call and their still complaining. Cell phones are like cars, as soon as you drive your car off the lot it depreciates and loses value. Just like a computer as well, as soon as you buy it, it’s already obsolete with in month. I’d like to hear from someone on EXACTLY what kind of phone you’d like T-Mobile to relese and tell me why you think that that kind of phone will make T-Mobile the #1 cell phone carrier. And after all if it’s a phone YOU want, then shouldn’t everyone want the same exact phone as you?

    • Jeff

      I want an Android device with a 4.3″ screen. Is that asking too much?

      • pimpstrong

        I hear you dude. I have been chomping at the bit for a EVO screen sized phone since like March and it appears that it may be NEXT March before we get one if ever.

        BUT even if TMO picked up the an EVO I still wouldnt get it unless it had a SuperAMOLED and thats just not gonna happen.

        Galaxy S2 please.

      • RockTripod

        So you want a 4.3″ screen, but even if T-Mo had the EVO, you wouldn’t buy it. Wow. You just want to gripe, just admit it.

      • drew

        Me too! at least 4+ screen and an 8mp cam with flash, more internal memory, and updates out the wazoo! 5mp is so played out.. pretty much every high-end device that I’ve wanted has come with an 8mp camera.

      • Ron

        get an hd2, and put android on it. that’s what i did

      • mike

        hey Ron, i’ve been trying to get Android on my HD2 for a minute bro but i cant do it without it being all buggy does yours work good and operate smoothly?

      • Hmmmm?

        Yeah, I was kind of hoping for a 4″ or bigger. I mean, they are releasing the G2 with a 3.7″, and that’s fine for some people, they could have thrown a bone to the other people that wanted a larger screen. It’s just a preference, will it stop me from buying it, no, but it would have been nice. Was kind of hoping for the Desire HD, so it’s not unheard of for T-Mobile to have a phone with a screen this size, albeit T-Mobile UK.

    • PHONE FREAK

      Phones alone, can’t make a carrier #1.

      • TMOprophet

        disagreed

    • Reece

      Dual-core is already corny & played out, plus I need a 13 inch screen !! With Verizon releasing the Droid XXL it’s time you up the ante with this!! C’mon T-Mobile get wit the program dammit!!

      • Steve Jobless

        Well said compadre. Although even the 13.3″ screens are rolling out shortly after. By that time you might have heard of the 14″. So, if I were you I would hold off until then. Hopefully by then Android will have rolled out “Parfait” version.

      • j

        First off, that is absurd, that is not a phone but a laptop! Secondly, who cares! noone will carry phone with that big of a screen.

      • Patrick B

        13 inch phone is not absurd. Two Words: Boom Box!
        Zoolander had the small phone now the trend will be BIG!

      • Hmmmm?

        When you write these comments you just sound stupid, no one expects phones with 13in screens (if they are, they’re also idiots). It’s not unreasonable for people to anticipate a new phone to have a screen size of 4″ to 4.3″, there are already several of them available and have been for a while, the trend is continuing in this direction, and T-Mobile already had the HTC HD2 with a 4.3″ screen. Is it enough to leave T-Mobile or bitch about constantly, I don’t think so really, but whatever you want to do. However, just because someone writes a simple comment like “I was kinda hoping for a 4″ screen”, it doesn’t warrant some idiotic comeback that spouts off ridiculous fictitious facts about phones that don’t exist

      • Patrick B

        Hmmm! I think that you missed the point.

    • Mr. MN

      Front facing camera with facial recognition
      Trackpad with fingerprint scanner
      20MP camera with xenon flash bright enough to light up a scene for a video shoot, thermal imaging technology, night vision,and x-ray
      9.9 inch super xhd super, master AMOLED/SLCD hybrid
      9billion pixels per square inch (too many for the most powerful microscope to process)
      9×9.99GHZ WARP SPEED processor
      Light from the screen enough to give me a tan because I’m tired of paying for my girl to get a tan
      Battery that recharges itself so I never have to charge it because I’m too lazy
      Batter powerful enough to jump start my car
      Phone smart enough to do my assignment
      Capable of connecting to every 3G or 4G network on this planet

      My point is people will never be satisfied regardless of how great the phone is. I know some people are not satisfied with my specs only available on Star Treck. Just let them complain. Oh feel free to add to my list :-)

  • jake

    Ok I’m getting this, this is what I wanted. Thank you T-mobile!!! This is gonna be a sweet phone!!

  • Joshua

    I just noticed a misprint in the ad. If you look at the blurb on the bottom that Tmonews watermark is covering up, it says, “Connect with family and friend” instead of “friends”. I also think the ad is a little bit cocky talking about an “unparalleled video chat”. It just doesn’t seem to be something tmobile ever was prepared to go to press with. Like others, i think this is probably an old mockup that has since been scrapped.

    • David, Managing Editor

      I don’t disagree with you Josh and not to defend it per se, but documents like these are never meant for public eyes, thats why typos are often common on leaked docs because they aren’t groomed meticulously by legal or marketing for public use.

      • JM77

        Well some of us seem to agree that this is an old version of an internal mock up. It gives a look at the planning stages for this phone, very interesting. Thanks for finding this, but you should make a statement about how this may not be a description of the Mytouch in its final form. Otherwise there will be VERY PO’d people around here.

        The statements about 4g network, instead of 4g like speeds, and dual processors, rather than dual core processors, make this look like an internal doc used for concepts. This doesn’t look like a post on a website or a press release.

      • TimmyT

        Yep, Grab and Go’s are for internal training use only and not for customer distribution.

    • davidohio

      I have to question the authenticity of this document. There is a typo and the wording is not right in places. For instance “spontaneous HD”? That does not make sense. That and the fact that it claims the largest 4g network leads me to believe this is photoshopped. We are no where close to a 4g network even when this device is released.

  • terryjohnson16

    Looks nice. Watch them promote this phone instead of the G2

    • Foxeh

      They should promote both to different markets.

      MyTouch HD: T-Mo does market the MyTouch brand and have loads of accessories for it. It’s fun for the whole family with their video chatting and special moments and all that.

      G2: Just like the G1 it’s simply a no nonsense device with just about every input method possible and no custom UI’s. G series shouts “I. AM. ANDROID! …so eff you all!” :P

      … or something like that.

  • la_resistance28

    Hey David,

    Did you notice the file name for the MyTouch HD picture?

    “Emerald_GG_Overview_v1.jpg.jpg”

    What does that mean? Please tell us this isn’t the long-awaited Project Emerald! No matter to me, I’m going for the Vanilla Froyo awesomeness of the G2. Just wondering if you or your crazy ninjas have insight as to why they might be internally labeling the MyTouch HD as “Emerald”…

    • David, Managing Editor

      I believe I wrote an article a few weeks ago stating that “Emerald” was the internal codename for the myTouch HD, following the path of Sapphire for the myTouch3G. Both gems. So yeah, I think this and the Emerald are one and the same. Is this Project Emerald, no way to say 100% for sure, but it sounds like it could be.

      • j

        Maybe it is multiple devices< thus the confusion over what it is, maybe by design???

      • Hmmmm?

        I agree with you that this is most likely the Project Emerald. I don’t think that Emerald would refer to multiple devices as it shows on the leaked roadmap as a single launch date, leading me to think it is one phone only.

        • David, Managing Editor

          You sir, are correct.

    • la_resistance28

      Thanks for the reply and for clearing things up! I just went back to read your “Project Emerald” post, looks like this photo’s file name is pretty much confirming your earlier scoop. Great job, keep the good news coming!

  • Usman

    So it’ll be an HSPA+ handset!? Sweet!

  • gunsing

    which is better g2 or mytouch hd?
    i been wanting the g2 but this 1 seems better cuz it has more stuff

    • Foxeh

      G2: Physical keyboard, stock Android, fancypants build quality
      MyTouch HD: FFC, probably slimmer/lighter

      I don’t suspect one to blow away the other, it all depends on what you want in a phone.

      • gunsing

        o aight i figured, thnks.

    • Patrick B

      I second the question!

  • geniuz

    I would love to get my hands on this phone but my biggest issue is that this screen isn’t 4″ or bigger. After using the Vibrant I will never go back to a 3.7 or a 3.8 for that matter.

    • Manny

      My issue is with the UI. espresso…yuck

  • _illmatic_

    I love the G2, but hot damn!!! The MyTouch HD is everything I wanted in a smart phone! The rumored dual core, FFC, HSPA+, plus I prefer a 3.7/.8 screen to the 4.0 inch. Heres hoping its dropping soon and that it will have that good ole’ GPU :D BTW I’ll pick this over the G2 because I don’t “need” a hardware keyboard, and I know Cyanogen will release a version of his custom ROM to take that “Genius” ROM off. Vanilla Android FTW!

    • JM77

      Don’t get too worked up before there is more evidence. This is a little fishy…

      • _illmatic_

        I feel ya. Hope its all true don’t see any reason why not tho. FFC, shouldn’t be a prob, neither should the HD, just gotta keep my fingers crossed for the Dual Core CPU.

      • PHONE FREAK

        Dual core 1ghz aren’t supposed to ship until late next year. Maybe dual core 800mhz. But it’s still fishy..

    • UX-Guy

      +1 on a Cyanogen release… I’m hoping that CM will support this and all of it’s features. I can’t stand the Espresso UI on my wife’s MT Slide.

    • Michael

      i thought cyanogen was getting g2 on release date. And if this is anything like the mytouch slide I’ll doubt he’ll spend more time on this then the g2 because alot of devs don’t like the slide

  • Vibrant Addict

    I’m a bit ashamed to say I might sell my Vibrant and get this instead. I will be there first day it’s in the store to compare it to my Vibrant and then make my decision. :)

  • mtnman

    I’ve been with T-Mobile for over 5 years now, and in that time I can tell you i’ve had ups and downs with them. But I stay, I stay because like a lot of other people in here we know that Tmo has been slow. Slow in getting 3G, slow in getting the lattest and greatest phones. We’ve watched as others like Sprint and Verizon take the Android market and run with it while we at Magenta introduced it to the world.

    We’ve had that pit in our stomach as others have left us in the dust, laughing at us and telling us what “Losers” we were and we’ll never beat them. But now things have started to change. T-Mobile is not only haveing it’s 3G service out, it’s got HSPA+ that’s faster than Sprints 4G. We have the Superphons that everyone wants. We have a phone that has a FFC that can make calls over 3G/HSPA+ without the need to be tethered to a WiFi connection. We’re getting a dual core phone. We’re doing the new Family Network and AAL promo.

    T-Mobile won J.D. Powers best CC service (again) and we have the lowest prices of any major carrier. Yet, we’re still not satisfied. Maybe like the red-headed-stepchild we’ve been abused for so long, no one needs to kick us when we’re down, we do it ourselves. I love my beloved Magenta, even with all their faults. I mean name a perfect carrier out there. What gets me and lot of others is that we feel like no one knows about all the great things about T-Mobile because of there lack of advertising. Oh sure they do advertise, but it’s so sparce, unlike all the others were you see one of there commercials every 5 mins. Plus they advertise so heavly on Football, Basketball, and everything else. The only thing Tmo dose is have TNT’s Basketball. Tmo if you read this, it’s our time to shine, unless you like being #4 you need to step up and tell the world who you are and what why your the best. That way Mailman can go to the Sprint website and cry over their asking why does T-Mobile have all the great phones?

    • slimnoodle

      That’s why I call it T-Sluggish

      • Jono

        And it is because of Tmo Customer Service that I stay with them..

    • Patrick B

      Good piece mtnman, but ad campaigns come at a cost. If they increase the ads, we can kiss goodbye our “lowest prices”. Good news does travel fast. Lets hope that gets some traction here.

  • deceptivesmiles

    Well, after finally seeing this. It made my decision a little easier to get the G2. Only other phone standing in the way of the G2 is the HD7. However, I might just do away w/ WinMo all together, their app market is terrible and nobody seems to support their OS for their apps either

    • PHONE FREAK

      Here we go again, with someone who doesn’t know what he’s talking about. The HD7 with have WINDOWS PHONE 7. Windows mobile is literally a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT operation system. The only similarity is the creator.

    • Reece

      ..you DO know that this go around is a COMPLETE DO OVER of windows mobile right? Like, EVERYTHING THEY DID over the past several years with mobile phones is COMPLETELY DONE OVER… right?

      • PHONE FREAK

        Good. Someone who knows the truth.

  • kendrix_myrealname

    I want to like this phone but im seriously just thinking about getting a Nexus One and calling it a day. At least I’ll be rocking a sexy high quality benchmark phone that T-Mo should’ve carried. Thats their problem…they let HTC and Google walk all over them like a dingy door mat. Not cool. But I love magenta to the death of it

    • J-Hop2o6

      then get the G2 then.. its better than the Nexus One

      • PHONE FREAK

        In what way is the G2 better than the Nexus One.

      • slimnoodle

        It has a keyboard freak , its an HSPA + running device, n some other things as well

      • z6

        G2 is better than the Nexus One in various ways. Mainly CPU (newer tech more efficient) and GPU (about 5X better.. this is really the main reason hardware wise), bigger internal storage, and hopefully better touchpad hardware. Also it supports HSPA+. Of course, if you want the thinnest phone and don’t care for a hardware keyboard, the G2 isn’t for you.

      • PHONE FREAK

        Ok. I just wanted to see what people would say. I agree.

      • J-Hop2o6

        ^^ what they said PHONE FREAK.. lol

  • Ben

    So I just have one question and that is what is the resolution of this phone? I kind of thought the HD might refer to the phone itself and it’s screen, not the fact that you could shoot and share stuff. Even the trifecta would be great, shoot, share, and compare on your HD screen.

    Either way it seems like a fantastic possibility, if this ad isn’t a fake. Hooray! I’ve been waiting a long time to get a phone, the Vibrant and G2 are tempting, this one may be the kicker for me.

  • jj

    wow i have a hd2 and was happy about the hd3 but now the my touch hd has my eye

  • jj

    o yeah i phone who ?????????????

  • Tdo

    No thanks. Why cant we get something that looks like an EVO or the G2 with the keyboard? This thing looks like a kiddy phone with too much plastic. The specs are nice, but I am sadly done with Tmo.

    • Reece

      lol @ a dual-core phone that eats the Evo for lunch being “kiddie”

      • shawn1224

        What he means is that can we get a phone that looks like it’s for a grown up. Which I agree wholeheartedly. Regardless of specs this thing looks like a teeny bopper phone. Why can’t they house the same specs in something similar to the Desire HD with a 4.3 inch screen. Yea I like the dual-core but everything else about the Mytouch HD is a big turnoff.

      • Daniel

        @shawn
        I feel the same way. I’ve been up for an upgrade right now, and I there still isn’t a phone that I think is worth using an upgrade for. If I were on any of the other networks, I would have definitely already used it up (and I’m on a family plan, so switching is, unfortunately, not an option). All the other networks have a “flagship” phone, but we can’t get one. This phone would be at least adequate, but the design is really lame. I have a MT3G right now and I’m really tired of using a flimsy, plasticy little thing. I want something more substantial.

        What really irks me about T-Mobile is that they can get part of the recipe for a good phone correct, but not all of it. The MyTouch HD has the specs but the quality and design are (or at least seem to be) lacking. The G2 has a decent design, runs vanilla Android, and seems to be sturdy and not plasticy, but the 800mhz processor isn’t what I want (yeah, it’ll probably be as fast as the older 1ghz Snapdragons, but why not just go ahead and put the new 1ghz Snapdragon in?).

  • mtnman

    Don’t cha just love to rub it in sometimes. Walk up to someone that has an iPhone and tell them “Oh you have to make a Video call useing Wi-Fi and only to someone that has another iPhone, while I can make a call to anyone that has phone with a FFC on 3G! Well except those that have an iPhone cuse they can only call each other and complain that they can’t call useing AT&T’s crappy service. lol

    • Reece

      lol I look forward to coming across someone with a iPhone 4 that needs a WiFi connection and me providing it to them like “oh sure, my phone has Wi-Fi built right into it let me help you!”

      • manus

        nice!! my brother has an i phone 4 and i make fun of him for it all the time.

        • David, Managing Editor

          For some reason your comment really struck a nerve…recognize that not everyone wants to feel up Android the way that you do.

  • LSxChevelle

    Almost it won’t be dual core…dual processor could mean something else. Keep that in mind. Will be getting it myself after selling the G2.

  • MJ

    *Waits on ATT to throw a fit about the 4G network claim*

    Phone looks nice, just hope the video calling wont incure another fee.

    Would be great if it included H@H UMA calling

  • Brian

    im glad they are calling it a 4g network

    most idiots dont know the diff between 3g and 4g. this will help their image alot imo

    • PHONE FREAK

      Very true. They think that 4G is better than 3G because 4 is greater than 3.

  • keemworld

    guys dont expect any flagship android phone from t-mobile to not have 2 things the mytouch name and expresso sense. the reason being is that t-mobile has put alot of money into both things and want them to be successful. any phone that comes out without the mytouch name will have nothing more than above average specs like the g2 because they’re pushing for the mytouch brand to sell more than anything with googles stock android even if its on their own line up. don’t get me wrong i love stock android like many of you do but its too bad t-mobile doesn’t feel the same.

    • Hmmmm?

      I don’t see really why everyone gets so upset by the custom UI skins, the G2 will be stock and that is great. But I think that for Android to continue to be successful that manufacturers should be able to customize their handsets, whats the point of having a hundred different Android phones if they are all the same. They should be able to appeal to different niches and differentiate themselves from one another, otherwise it just as well be another iPhone, with no freedom of expression.

  • masterpfa

    I think this will be a great release. Unfortunately one phone cannot be all things to all people. It has some great features and let’s not forget the myTouch has never been a “TOP END” phone so will not be competing with the likes of the Droid X or Samsung Galaxy S etc.
    Let’s be thankful that TMob are trying the up the game with the myTouch HD and G2 neither of which have been mentioned for us in Europe yet :-(

  • watbetch

    This doesn’t look like anything T-Mobile would put out internal or otherwise. That thing looks like a $20 cordless phone from Uniden. I’m hoping this isn’t it. It barely makes any sense.

    HTC has used a 1.3MP front camera in the HTC Evo.

    The wording, is not T-Mobile-like at all. It’s a nice try but a failure overall. If you look at everything with a magnifier it sounds and looks fake.

    • I am concerned where you get your thinking from watbetch. but the items are real. get with it.

  • MakrV10

    Oh snap, just when I had decided to quit waiting for the next shiny thing and just bogo the vibrant this comes along. video calling, genius button, froyo, and maybe even a GPS that won’t need a bug fix. Darn you t-mo I may have to wait on this one.

    • firebird

      The BOGO on the Vibrant is good until at least November. The phone release season goes through the beginning of December so I’m waiting till everything comes out.

  • z6

    Not bad, I guess. I like the core hardware specs if they’re accurate. I really like the hardware-dedicated buttons and the trackpad, one thing many newer android phones lack. Thankfully it also has a LED flash and FFC, which the vibrant sadly lacked.

    IMO this phone only has 2 major downsides. 1) the espresso UI, 2) the design. It just looks terrible ugly. As of right now, I still favor the G2 due to stock android and a much nicer design.

  • alex32

    for the people waiting on a 4.3 inch screen device, to me it looks like tmobile will release the HD7, and thatll be the only 4.3 device (besides the HD2). i know..you guys want android with a 4.3 inch screen..but it doesnt look like thats happening any time soon. tmobile had a chance to pull it off with the mytouch hd..but its 3.8 inches.. a .1 inch difference compared to the G2.
    if you guys plan on waiting for a 4.3 inch screen..then thatll have to be the HD7. I know..winmo, but oh well

    • mtnman

      When the HD7 comes out, they’ll have to wait till XDA gets a hold of it like they did with the HD2 and put Froyo on this one. Then you’ll have an Android phone with a 4.3″ screen.

      • PHONE FREAK

        If you have an HD2 then you can already have android with a 4.3 inch screen.

    • alex32

      is it hard to do that? I mean is it hard to for example get an hd2 and put froyo 2.2 on it?
      i have no idea how to do that, but id like to know though
      does it also take a while to do that sorta thing?

      • HD2/VIBRANT USER

        its pretty painless. I have it on mine and its nice. everything works like its supposed to.

      • J-Hop2o6

        all u do is set the Android files on your SD card, then run haret.exe.. voila.. running Android 2.2 on my TP2.

      • Edward351

        Does the Android Market work? Do Bluetooth and WiFi work correctly? These are two features that I really need for my phone to work correctly. I have a G1, and if the Android experience on the HD2 worked well and had those two features then the HD2 might be an option for me.

    • TMOprophet

      If it is gonna take that long for TMO to launch a 4.3in Android, then I say FAIL and I will switch to a carrier that is more in touch with what customers want..simple as that

  • ecdy

    Yeah, I’m sure to believe these leaked “internal web shots,” especially after the one last June that promised 2.2 for the MyTouch 3g. Anybody heard anything about the MyTouch 3g lately, except that it’s going to be dropped in October?

    • phonegeek

      and mine is dying smh ill make it last atleast till THIS phone becomes an option then i can pick between the 2 the “G2” and this little beauty … whatever it really looks like i just dont like espresso much but thats only due to live wallpapers petty yes i kno ( i dont care about my punctuation errors either, this is not english class nor literature)SN# thats for anyone who was going to mention it

  • pimpstrong

    I’m impressed with TMO’s year end line up. Once the G2, myTouch HD, and our first WP7 phone comes out, we’ve pretty much got all the bases covered except for a gynormous screened phone. We will definently have phones worth talking about before we all sit down to some dry @$$ turkey.

    I don’t know what the other 3 carriers have lined up for the end of the year or early next year but I really hope TMO has already completed the work on these phones and has already started planning for QTR 1,2.

    Next year is gonna be CRAZY!

  • coolMANDINGO

    does it really say does it realy say vga for the front? which means FFC!!! F the nexu 1 with the keyboard i mean g2. im going o wait for this device . i dont like the spart button crap. i hope its a lot faster than the g2 !

  • Lissa

    Looking forward to playing with one of these at the store!

  • cyd

    shut up just shut up

  • thereugo

    Does anyone think the GLACIER will be a great phone? If so what will it be running Android or Windows? Can someone give me a clue? Also what about the 15th when HTC announces something NEW in London. What is it?

    • Barry

      supposedly they’re announcing the descried HD which T-Mobile seems they’re going to miss out on another desire device. There were rumors that the desire HD=mytouch HD but that seems to be false. Also a windows 7 device and possibly a tablet which seems to be all the rage now.

    • Barry

      Desire HD*

  • Knowledge

    NOT a real document people!!

    • David, Managing Editor

      And why not?? Tell me…if you have reasons why its not, tell us.

      • firebird

        I haven’t seen any Grab And Go’s for this phone…usually they aren’t posted till well after the phone is announced, usually the week of release. It could be that this is a mockup of the planned Grab and Go, considering surely they have to be written well before they are released to the rank and file. I will say the color scheme is off for Grab and Go’s. (They are usually blue, and have tables.) Also the language seems off, addressing “you” instead of talking about your customers.

        I’m not saying I think that it’s fake, just that it’s probably an early mockup.

    • cirrob

      Actually you said very clearly that it is a fake.

  • Barry

    Like I said I’m reserving my judgment on this but it says “put up pics of you and elvis on a big screen” or something to that effect but this screen isn’t big. There’s also no dimensions idk if it’s possible or not to give a screen size without the actual dimensions of the phone. So is it possible this is an early prototype of the MTHD or is this it ?

    • TJ

      It’s talking about connecting it to an HDTV.

      • Barry

        Ok gotcha

  • immadroid

    i hope this is real, throw on Cyan mod 6 and we’re ready to go!

  • this is good,but they need something to compete with HTC Evo and The Droid X,they 4.3 screen, 8 megapixel camera,front facing camera,with tmobile’s hspa network and android as the os,i know it sounds alot like the Evo but this would help tmobile compete with the competition

  • fidget

    Looks promising. Does anyone know if a) this will support UMA calls, b) is world phone that will work in Europe as well as US. I heard G2 is not a world phone.

    • @ fidget im pretty sure this phone will work in europe i have da samsung memoir(old phone) and my boyfriend has the my touch slide and on a recent trip to norway and spain we took our phones we just activated international roaming and both our phones worked good in europe we even got 3G in spain and norway and we were roaming so im sure the this phone will work in europe , and u will get 3G roaming . o and idk if this phone will support uma sorry …

      • fidget

        thanks anna. i would hope that would be the case. My mytouch slide also works when traveling in Europe but I was just reading an article comparing the Vibrant and the G2 and it stated that the G2 unlike the Vibrant was not a world phone. I guess it depends on if its a quad band phone. I was a bit surprised that G2 won’t be. Got me thinking about mytouch HD. Looks nice and now that I’m addicted to Swype I can ditch my qwerty keyboard. However, I plan on waiting for UMA phone (loved that when I had my blackberry). I heard one or more Android UMA phones are coming….just not sure when. Maybe this will be one of the first. We’ll need to wait for full specs.

  • swoosh042507

    Im grabbin the g2 and if the mytouch hd specs are better ill get that. …Whats really grabbing my attention is the ffc because i have 2 daughters and although im arounf there are times i miss them and the front cam is a nice way to communicate

  • hunny

    To Mr. MN hahahahhaah that was pretty funny on what u wrotd there. Your post caught my attention, True that people are never satisfied. What the heck!?! They want miracles on their phones. Lol

    Ohh well, the moment I saw this phone and read the feature im inlove with it. I have the iphone now jailbroken with tmobile. I just love the iphone cos its sexier for girl. im not a fan of physical keyboard so i have been waiting for tmobile to come out like the iphone all touch, better cam with flash, FFC and android phone seems like better than the verizon incredible although incrediblr has 8mp i mean 5mp is not bad though since i wanna try something diffrent and from what i see android has more features than iphone. So tmobile came out with a samsung vibrant but didn’t really like it it looks like a fakr iphone and why would i wanna get that doesnt have a flash i already have iphone with no flash. I wanna upgrade my phone So, now tmobile is coming out with this Mytouch HD i just can’t wait for it, i think this phone has all the features im lookin for a phone. (all touch, have its own original look and style, 5mp with flash, expandable memory, and FFC. Woooohooo cmon november!!

  • phil mccrakin

    why in the hell couldnt they make this a much sexier looking phone…its ugly…im falling in love with the motorola defy just announced but its specs are not even close to the mthd….i hope these pics are all wrong cause pdadb.net has a different picture of the mthd. that one is alot sexier…all i want is all of the mthd specs on a phone that looks like the motorola defy…why cant any of the moron companies get it effing right…apple got it right the first time…damn it!!!!

  • phil mccrakin

    NOW WHY DOES PDADB.NET HAVE THIS PHONE AS THE MYTOUCH HD/ HTC ACE AND EVEYONE ELSE HAS A DIFFERENT LOOKING PHONE…I LOVE THIS ONE ON PDADB.NET ALOT MORE…
    http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2514&view=1&c=t-mobile_mytouch_hd__desire_hd_htc_ace

    • FlyingRequin

      I actually prefer the physical launch buttons to the soft touch ones.

    • Hmmmm?

      That is the HTC Desire HD, most likely for T-Mobile UK, probably going to be unveiled tomorrow sometime. I like it much more as well, but the myTouch line has always had a distinct look, personally not my favorite, but I might give this one a try. On the other hand, does anyone know what the possibility of unlocking a UK (European) phone such as the Desire HD to work on T-Mobile’s American network, they are both T-Mobile phones, so I would think it would be possible, I wonder about the HSPA + though.

  • Fish

    Option to remove espresso without rooting?

    “Make it so numer one”

  • Hmmmm?

    As the whole FFC thing is kinda new, I was wondering. When you are using video chat, does that count as a phone call, or use your minutes. Or is this part of the data plan, I could see if you were on WI-FI that it would not count against you, just curious. How does the Evo handle this on Sprint, I know the iPhone 4 only allows on WI-FI so it wouldn’t really be an issue there.

  • mjN1

    I have a feeling that the features are going to be true. But it will have a DUAL CORE. And NO it wont look like that. ITs going to be like the Desire HD or maybe it is the Desire HD. Will see what happens on Sept. 15. If you guys read the past articles here, then you’ll know what I mean. Please tmo not the picture above!!!

    • Hmmm?

      I only hope that you are right, all though I’m afraid you are not. As someone earlier pointed out, T-Mobile’s flagship phones are always myTouch phones, and they always look like this. Guess we’ll find out soon though.

    • TMOprophet

      I wish you were right, but you’re not….This site has traditionally been correct when they make predictions. They called the Vibrant out, and the G2, I have no suspicion at this point to believe otherwise.

      There are a few people on here that could enlighten us on whats gonna happen, but they won’t..perhaps out of sheer arrogance, or fear of getting caught leaking information…anyway, jaythe01 is one such individual, or at least seems think he is very informed. However his comments are typically not very revealing.

  • daniel

    Does this thing have flash? I mean, does it have a camera flash. There’s no mention of any kind of flash for the camera.

  • TMOprophet

    “Blows the competition out of the water”…….LMFAO

    While this will be the most advanced device to enter the Mytouch lineup, the screen size alone will keep me from getting it.

    Why does T-mobile think we need a multiple phones with nearly the same screen size? And why the hell won’t they even put out one..I repeat just “one” Android phone with a 4.3in display?

    And no I didn’t say 13.8in or 43.2in or 40Ghz…so don’t even start.

    • shawn1224

      Preach.

      TMO, will be surprised how many people will pass on this device simply because the screen size is inadequate. They have catered to everybody else except the 4.3 inch screen lovers.

      If they had any sense they would have followed the Motorola Droid 2/droid x replica.

    • shawn1224

      … and I’m referring to android not that HD2 crap

      • TMOprophet

        I wanted the HD2 to have Android so bad, if it would have, that would be my phone today, I would have been first in line to get it on launch day.

        And I know the Android ports are coming along, but I want factory Android setup out of the box, I really don’t want to have to mess with porting it.

        Right now TMO is currently ignoring a large demographic of customers who want a 4.3in Android that will compete with what Sprint and Verizon offer. And it doesn’t have to be a bunch of phones, like I said before, I think one would do.

      • TMOprophet

        And now with the unveiling of the Desire HD in London, its like another slap in the face for us T-Mobile USA customers. I would be all over that Desire HD..if available.

  • quadbaby

    Actually after watching the Desire Z and HD videos the Desire Z aka the G2 will be my choice…the Desire HD aka MyTouch HD almost looks like the Evo

  • Midori

    Why does the does the Desire Z look like the G2 and the Desire HD doesnt look like the MTHD? What’s so special about the UK that we all dont get the same release?

    • TMOprophet

      No crap..for real, we should be getting a US version of the Desire HD too.

      • Hmmmm?

        I hope T-Mobile reads these comments honestly, it’s obvious that there are a substantial portion of potential customers, both new and repeat that want a 4.3 Android phone on T-Mobile. Why “it appears) we don’t get a version of the Desire HD, I will not figure out. I say appear because all we have at the moment are rumors of course, but most rumors usually contain a fair amount of truth. The Desire Z & G2 – Same, the Windows Phone 7 HTC phone & Shubert – same (according to T-Mobile road map), the Desire HD & MyTouch HD – completely different. Why design a completely different phone, when it would make more sense to use one that’s already been designed, already has people hyped, and obviously people are interested in.

      • TMOprophet

        I say they shouldn’t even need to read them to know. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that Sprint and Verizon still can’t keep up with the demand for the Evo and Droid X. The Evo has been out for a long time now and still is in short supply, and the X has been on back order for some time now.

        It’s clear that the 4.3in Android class is a big hit with consumers, so what the hell is T-Mobile waiting for? Are they waiting to see how many customers leave to Verizon? I mean come on, this should be very simple for them..just launch a darn phone in this class.

        I for one might leave once my phone is paid off, if there isn’t a 4.3in class Android yet.

  • Hmmmm?

    After reading some of the earlier comments I was curious as I have never seen a Grab and Go document before this myTouch HD rumor started. So I did a little research and saw one for the G1, granted it was two years old, but then I saw one for the LG Sentio, from June 2010, neither one looked anything like this. The two I saw were much more focused as a training tool to inform T-Mobile reps how to market the phone towards customers. Things like, “Top 3 reasons to buy” and “Commercial Message” are the focus of those, this seems more like it’s aimed at the customers. The others that I saw were all at least three pages long as well, this seems to be a one page flyer. So, in my unprofessional opinion, these are either really early mockups or non-genuine, or they radically changed the focus of the Grab and Go’s in the past few months.

  • AndroidMaster

    T-Mobile should make the myTouch HD run on stock android UI. Or, have the option to choose Espresso OR stock android. That will make the myTouch HD be “100% you”.

    • Jay

      you can turn off Htc sense so it will run stock android just go into apps and clear the default settings for htc sense then it’ll ask you when you press home to use htc sense or launcher tap use as default and tap launcher.There you go stock android lol.

  • Midori

    @Hmmmm? I hope your unprofessional opinion is right because after seeing the Desire HD on the HTC website and all is capabilities I can see why that phone is named that. I mean coommmee ooonnn the phones just right there at the tip of Tmobile USA fingertips just “Grab and Go” and release that EXACT same phone in America I am nearly 100% sure Tmo customer will have that phone on back order well into about five months on its release! :)

  • PathogenX

    WOW, That is ugly. The G2 and vibrant are much nicer.

  • JBLmobileG1

    I think Tmobile should REALLY smoke the other carriers and be the FIRST phone carrier in the US and quite possibly the WORLD… and release the MyTouch 3D. You heard me….the MYTOUCH 3D!!!! Have it use the same technology as the new Nintendo 3DS system thats coming out. With the MyTouch 3D you could play movies in 3D as well as maybe even have 3D TV where you can watch say… ALL the BaseketBall games in 3D for a small fee. (And since the NBA and Tmobile are partners… you never know)Good idea… no?

    • RandomEmployee

      Check out the Samsung B710, and the more recent Samsung W960 Amoled 3D. Non-US, but you get the Idea.

  • derrickps3

    @pathogenx

    you must be out of your damn mind, this phone is sexy as hell. i love it, and the back of it looks nice. 2.2, 4gb inter memory, 8mp camera etc…. yeah this may be my next phone, RIM is taking to damn long to release blackberry 6 for the bold 9700

    • Hmmmm?

      The look of the phone is a matter of opinion, although I’m sure more would agree than not that this is not nearly as attractive as the majority of HTC phones, the new Desire HD that the UK is getting being the primary subject of envy at the moment. All the negative comments aside (mine included) this will probably be my next phone as well, if it is real. I don’t think I could go to Verizon, their just an evil, evil company. Sprint wants to charge you another $10 premium for having an Evo or Epic, I don’t think so. I’ve never had a problem with T-Mobile’s service, and I’ve been with them for eight years, so I don’t think I’m going to jump ship quite yet.

    • Hmmmm?

      Also, it state’s quite clearly above that it has a 5mp camera, so I’m not sure where you came up with 8mp.

  • Nearly all of the essential elements in the world happen to be accomplished by people who have kept on trying when there seemed to be no hope at all

  • LaNsLyDe

    the back of the phone makes the whole device sexy imo

  • Jay

    I doubt there will be a dedicated camera button there hardly ever are on htc full touch phones

  • +1 on bringing us the desire hd way better options and look!! how about adding a front facing camera to that and make it around 4 inches…that would be a top seller phone,tmobile is always giving us half ass phones without camera flash etc..we want a super phone damit!

    • alex

      Dude can you read clearly it says video chat, android 2.2, nice 3.8 inches, flash hd camera, it is a super phone, can’t wait to see this baby in white I’m definetley getting this :D. Also it has HSPA+ compability

    • blah

      “Make it around 4 inches” That’s what she said…

    • mjN1

      amen to that natedogg!

  • omog

    It’s fake. That is nothing like what a “grab and go” looks like or reads like. Nice try. Fonts right, headers wrong.

  • C-Eang

    This phone will blow out the iphone 4 of the self.

  • It might be nice phone. Thanks for discription!