Who wants more Android info? I do! Ido!


Well, loyal Android fans, here is something to fill that daily Android fix. The Android guys are at it again with a laundry list of things we can expect from the Android phone, mind you this list is not “official” but oh well, Android speculation seems just fun anyway:

  • 528Mhz Qualcomm 7201 processor
  • Data kit for USB connectivity in the box
  • 64MB Internal RAM
  • 128MB Internal ROM
  • 1GB MicroSD card
  • 5 Row QWERTY keypad
  • Trackball
  • 3.1MP camera (no flash) 2048 x 1536
  • Video playback files – H.264, streaming, 3GPP, MPEG4, and Codec 3GP
  • Dedicated YouTube Player
  • Audio playback files – MP3, AAC, AAC+, WMA, MPEG4, WAV, MIDI, REAL AUDIO, OGG
  • Speakerphone (mono, natch)
  • Ringtones (MP3, AAC, AAC+, WMA)
  • HTTP, WAP Push, xHTML
  • Bluetooth (class 1)
  • Picture Caller ID
  • POP, IMAP, and SMTP, AOL, and GMAIL email
  • AIM, MSN, YAHOO, and GTALK messaging
  • Quad Band (850, 900, 1800, 1900)
  • 3G
  • 802.11b & 802.11g
  • UMTS (1,4), HSDPA, SUPL
  • 1150mAh battery
  • 5.6 oz weight
  • Sync capable with Google Calendar
  • Downloadable content via Android Marketplace
  • Google Streetview with built-in compass

See the full list here: Androidguys

Update: There is some definite confusion going around with a bunch of articles floating around today about what the Android device will NOT include:

To clarify, bluetooth implementation will be included in the form of handsfree headset usage but not in the API set, or as I understand it it won’t be accessible for development via programming. Googletalk, or gtalk will also not be included in the first run of the Android software due to “security” and “implementation” concerns. Thats really disappointing to say the least considering I live on google talk.

  • GP
  • SheShe

    Now for the pics

  • ratchet

    what is SUPL & natch speakers?

  • milo

    Sorry I still don’t understand so is it going to have wifi calling?

  • Tfan

    What does Dedicated YouTube Player mean????? And what’s bluetooth class 1? Can someone please answer these questions for me thanks

  • Steven I

    Still no sign of GPS?

  • fred

    Doesn’t say it on that list, but I read on HowardForums that it might have UMA for @Home so I’m not sure.

    1150 mAh? Sounds like decent battery life, hopefully. Maybe since it’s not running Windows it’ll last longer lol

  • T1 Connect

    why does it have the same ram and rom as the dash and the wing the shadows has more than the dream. shouldn’t it be more than that.

  • justinhub2003

    ok the low ram/rom is killing me, i hope it is a mistake or that lenox and android are very efficient, it would be so so lame if instead of making a ultimate phone they make an almost ulitimate phone so when the next phone comes out it will be the ultimate phone and we as consumers just keep buying what we think is the best phone. its kinda like a car, cars are made to break down after say 6 or 7 years, guess what else runs out after 6 or 7 years, your payments or lease, so pretty much you are more inclined to buy another car, think about it, why would a company wanna sell you one item to last for a very long time when they can sell you lots of items over a preiod of time, they dont want complete satisfied customers, they want customers to have a taste of satisfaction, so they can continue to sell you little bits of it. i hope this is not the case and that android,htc and t mobile but every bit of effort they could into this phone, which i hope and wanna think they did, i will be buying the next t mo android after this but ya dont gotta hold back to make sure you can top your last performance. if this makes any sense

  • Sucky ram and rom. I’d be more inclinded to buy a Touch Pro and put Android on that. Oh well the design of the phone and specs are a let down…

  • Orlando Reyes

    Memory is low because Android is programmed to shut off programs while creating save points to continue later. They also throw in a 1GB memory card so they don’t believe you need storage on the phone.

  • justinhub2003

    Yea i read that some where, so it uses battery and memory pretty efficient, the thing is, when it comes to pre- ordering, your putting your faith in whats on paper and whats on paper at some places look awesome but in the ram/rom field “LOOKS” REALLY BAD, even if its able to preform much better than its compterors who have higher ram/rom. its all about perception and people wont precieve those numbers very well enough to put there faith and money in on something there havent touched yet with less than average #’s

  • Renesandy

    Are the messengers like the Sidekick styled ones?

  • mingkee

    it has real and ogg support
    hope the streaming support is like N800
    another concern is: bluetooth support
    however, if the G1 data service can be used on other devices (TM506, W760, data card) with full service, I’ll get it

  • SheShe

    I’m still gonna get mine a test it out if its not good u can always return it

  • Matthew

    not everyone is crazy about an andriod phone..
    all i wanna know is when and what is gonna be the next mindows mobile phone…

  • yes some of the list is a let down hahahahaha but every 1 of my friends going to want 1 and ill be the 1st to get it . this is the 1st 1 to come out so . so its going to be hot no matter what it has onder the hood . im still buying it .

  • StillTMO

    A key dimension was missed in this post. The hand set dimension on “Adroidguys” is given as 117 x 55 x 16mm. If the thickness is 16 mm then I am so not buying this. This is thicker than my Blackberry 8700.

  • Does anybody know if this phone will be compatible with Macs right out of the box or are we Mac users going to have to wait for a third-party solution?


  • Mark

    How will I transfer my outlook to Android?

  • StillTMO

    Well..Correction needed. Its not as thick as the BB..wrong online measure..

  • WazzuKirk

    In regards to GPS, it states it has a built in compass to use with Google Maps, I would therefore tend to say that GPS is definitely built-in.

  • Phoneking13

    Class 1 Bluetooth devices work up to a range of 300 feet. Class 2 devices, the most common, work up to 30 feet.

  • greg

    what is the basis for ram estimated? i thought that the test phone demo at google conference had 128ram

  • David

    Remember guys, NONE of this is “official.” This is a compilation of information from a multitude of sources, some of whom may have access to terrific information and others may not. Take all this with a grain of salt.

  • kevinholikan

    GTALK has been pulled from the android OS due to “lack of time”

  • justinhub2003

    yea it was probably some lame apple fanboy relaying false info to android guys and every one so on there tip toes about this info that any news is worth writing a blog about, and when it says one 1gb mirco sd card, i think they give you that for free and you can upgrade your self, people over at androidguys were commenting about how 1gb is lame but lol its not lame when u can add a 16gb.

  • T

    Quad Band (850, 900, 1800, 1900)?

    How’s that going to work with TMo’s new 3G rollout?

  • mingkee

    I expect G1 is much like nokia N810 with phone function
    we should know WM is memory hog, while Linux is more effecient, to suspend idle applications into storage till you use it next time
    after reading the spec, I am more interested to buy it, as long as just add any400 with VPN

  • mojo fett

    I seem to remember when the first lists came out that it stated that it was going to be 3×5 and we now know that that isn’t true. I wonder which of these are true and which ones aren’t.

  • J-Hop2o6

    @ T

    thats the GSM (2G) network bands.. G1/Dream will have AWS (3G) 1700/2100

  • I question the bluetooth class 1. More than likely class 2 or 2.1
    Has anyone read anything saying that it will have A2DP? It would be sad to have such great specs and hold that much memory and not have stereo bluetooth!!

  • Javier

    these specs do not make me want this one one bit the ram and rom blow

  • rommel

    one more time,symbian-anybody?-the n96?

  • Juan

    Why is everything leaking about this phone so disappointing?

    I hope we’re being set-up to be amazed, here.

  • SheShe

    i have faith in this phone

  • matt

    From the look of the description could this be the next sidekick ?

  • I really hope we’re being set-up to be amazed as well. because going from 4.5×3 to 4.5×2 and no api bluetooth support and no gtalk, and possible rumors of no gps does not make a great first google phone at all.

    lets hope we are shocked and amazed sept 17th.

  • and lets hope for some good OS X support, or atleast some good syncing apps.

  • Alex

    The more and more I look at this thing it looks like its going to be the next sidekick, if this is the case. Tmobile just completed the biggest hoax in the history of cell companies.

  • Jimbo831

    “I question the bluetooth class 1. More than likely class 2 or 2.1
    Has anyone read anything saying that it will have A2DP? It would be sad to have such great specs and hold that much memory and not have stereo bluetooth!”

    That is absolutely wrong. The FCC docs showed that it had Bluetooth 2.0 complete with EDR. It didn’t specify, but I definitely assume it will also have Stereo Bluetooth as well, but we shall see soon (not soon enough unfortunately.)

  • bojkic

    I agree that these specs are not real, right or complete. Bluetooth is not version 1(have a look at the FCC docs) and the you can visit Qualcomm’s site to check out specs of the chipset… link http://www.qctconnect.com/products/msm_7201.html … chipste has:
    * 528 MHz ARM11 Jazelle™ Java® hardware acceleration
    * Support for BREW® and Java applications
    * Qcamera™: Up to 6.0 megapixel digital images
    * Qtv™: Playback up to 30 fps VGA
    * Qcamcorder™: Record up to 24 fps QVGA
    * Up to 4 million triangles per second, and 133 million depth-tested, textured 3D pixels per second fill rate
    * gpsOne® position-location assisted-GPS (A-GPS) solution
    * Support for third-party operating systems
    * Digital audio support for MP3, aacPlus™ and Enhanced aacPlus
    * Integrated Mobile Digital Display Interface (MDDI), Bluetooth® 1.2 baseband processor and Wi-Fi® support

    I just cannot find the reason for google, htc and tmo to disable some features of the chipset, like gps or video capturing. That would be nutzzz… Imagine having compas but not having GPS, that would be hilarious at least!

    What is posssible it that they have not completed making drivers and software for capturing videos or using GPS? Google says that ANdroid is not yet complete, so maybe they have not shown the phone with the complete software pack. ANd that is why ppl who have held tham could not see those capabilities.

  • Greg

    FCC docs show bluetooth chipset 2.0, but that does not mean the software will support. From Dev. blogs that was the issue.

  • bobby

    ok does anybody know QVGA or VGA and whats the screen size?

  • justin.

    What? 64 mb of ram? This better be a joke!

  • J

    I have heard there was some conflict regarding UMA when Google was developing the software. T-Mobile wanted to make sure the software would not allow for VOIP plugins that were not T-Mobile UMA. I never heard what happened with that.

  • mndave

    bluetooth class 1 is not bluetooth 1.0
    class 1 is a power/range measurement, not a throughput measurement
    class 1 uses the most power (100 mW) to get the best range (100 m)

    I’m wondering about DUN support – so I can use it as a modem for my TomTom.

  • Eric in Cupertino

    If they cannot match the RAM and ROM of the GSM touch pro I’ll have to wait for a better device. I am Disappointed. No E71, no SGH-i900 no modern HTC.

  • T1 Connect

    yes what is up with the windows mobile phone im kinda used to it right now my eyes are set on the g1 but if i see a more powerful wm phone b4 its released i gotta wiegh my odds.

  • se

    Why the concern about ROM size? Insisting that the phone have a bigger ROM is like inisting that Vista is a great OS because it takes up so much disk space.

  • Bryant

    why wouldnt they include a flash for the camera?? besides that i really need this phone in my life lol

  • bob

    what about wifi??????

  • bob

    wait never mind its there i over looked it sorry…

  • edwin

    who cares about the features!! just give me the phone………………………………………….NOW!

  • aa

    Will it have threaded text messages??

  • about gps or not, i saw over at androidguys thata the top three of 50 apps will be bundled in with the t-mobile g1. one of the apps is breadcrumz, which relies on gps to do its thing, so that is a good indication that the g1 will have gps built in.

  • kdee

    Do you guys have confirmation from T-nmoile on the pre-sale release date? When I call customer service, nobdoy knows anything at all and I called my local T-mobile store and nobody knows anything as well.

    I’d just like to have some type of verification when an actualy offical announcement will be made so I don’t miss anything.

    Also, $35 is no deal right now I pay $19.99 for total iinternet add-on plus $14.99 for unlimited messaging.

    IF they want to give us a deal. Make it $19.99 for unlimited EVERYTHING: email/messaging/internet like the sidekick unlimited plan.

  • does anyone know more about the UMA feature? Love my blackberry for that while I travel abroad and avoid roaming charges

  • I liked reading your story – thank you for sharing

  • So let me give you some insider information. The data plans can change because of the fact that companies like RIM and Danger (sidekick) get kickback on their data plans. So when you spend 19.99 for a blackberry data plan some of that money goes back to RIM (no big surprise there). People whining about how it should be 19.99 only like the sidekick unlimited plan don’t realize that the sidekick phones can do that because it is special to the sidekick phones and because the UI of sidekick devices benefit more from it than just having a messaging or data bundle separate.

    As for GPS…cmon people..look at the specs….Google Streetview with built-in compass . This si something I have seen (and I am sure most of you have seen who have watched any videos on the android software). It is GPS. It is like Apple’s stupid little “here you are” kind of mapping, and gives a better GPS experience.

    As for the software….linux (not spelled lenox as some people are spelling ti ehre) is a very efficient software and open source. This allows for many apps to be made for the phone, and not just by google or tmobile. As those of you who have done any research on the android software show. Unlike apple’s Iphone, the android software does not require massive amounts of memory ROM or RAM to run. The software can run on phones with almost no memory in them.

    The stats on this page do have some valid points, but I doubt they are accurate. For one the camera is robably going to be 3.2 mp. Like the nokia 5610.

    the one thing I would like to see is SD card slot and not microsd. I know a lot of people are asking why… and the truth is because you can store more memory on an sd care that micro sd, and you take microsd and us an adapter to make it sd. I have an 8gb microsd in my phone right now, but I would rather have a 32 gb SD card.

    As for presale information…..NOBODY AT THE LOWER LEVEL TMOBILE STORE OR CUSTOMER CARE OR ANY OTHER LOWER LEVEL AREA HAS ANY REAL INFORMATION!!! I can not stress this enough. You know how many people I talk to who say things like “The guy at the store told me the phone would have *insert random technobabble here*” Normall when there is a new phone coming out there might eb some release information given to the associates, but this time there is very little. The only thing the associates know is rumor and speculation. Some based on good information and some just hopefuly speculation. Many tmobile employees are waiting for the info on sept 23rd as well.

    Now none of what I have aid here should be any big whoop or come as any type of surprise here because it is all public information and very blatant public information. I just had to say a few things because …c’mon…reading some of these posts is like trying to watch monkeys determine hwo to program a VCR (while some of the other posts are rather the opposite).

  • =(

    No support for Push Technology with ActiveSync through exchange server. =(

  • As the time grows closer, i will say this. I am on the fence as to whether or not buy one. While this is definitely going to be a good phone. I do not like the rumor of no video capture. I know, not a big deal but still a big one to some people.

    I have to wait until early 2009 for my upgrade to get a full discount so i will be waiting to maybe see the version 2 come out or something of the sort.

    I do like the google part. I know it is all google part…but considering I have a good amount of stock in google I will be happy to see my shares rise. I have already made some really good money off google.

  • Anon

    Is it touchscreen?

  • This is sad. There’s more tech specs on this site than on T-Mobile’s web site! HAHA!

  • G1 Hater

    I found out that you have to pay monthly either a 25 dollar internet and 400 text, or a 35 dollar internet and unlimited text to even use this phone. I’m glad I didn’t preorder this one, and to get this phone at full price they want 599.00 thats just crazy I already hate this phone more then the apple haters of the iphone generation. :)