Here she is…

No writing required for this, enjoy:

Update: Sorry guys I’m having trouble blowing the pics up, click on them twice…

Via Engadgetmobile

  • SheShe

    Im lovin it though i think the black will look better yay im excited again… well i never really stopped but ya know!

  • holmz

    I was very excited until I saw these pics. I hope that this is not the right pics cause that is the ugliest phone I have ever seen!! Sorry!

  • moregas

    I hope it comes out in black…looks sweet tho

  • Smoku

    is this really it

  • CBJacked

    Cant wait to see it in black, i cant notice the “chin”? What im want to see is final official specs.

  • SheShe

    i think it is smoku.. nice spacious keyboard big screen black should look waaay better

  • T1 Connect

    aahh tmo news you are like the tits on a perfect broad thanks manfor showing me my long awaited new phone cant freakin wait

  • Eric

    Seriously, I don’t understand why so many people think this phone is the ugliest phone they’ve ever seen. It’s not an iPhone (cosmetically speaking), but I don’t see it as being ugly. I don’t get it.

  • guillenx

    I was really hoping for a better looking phone. :-((

    I can’t show this thing off to my friends that have an iphone, they would laugh at me.

    I’m so disappointed with the overall appearance of the product. What the fuck happened to the touch screen and

    those “fierce” features? This is not the iphone killer in any way.. HTC needs to go back to the drawing board and give me something FEROSH.

    I think I’ll wait for that samsung “taco” haaa or Tocco whatever….

    Laters Skanks

    Guillenx

  • timmyjoe42

    quick, somebody charge the battery

  • timmyjoe42

    guillenx, I think it does have a touch screen.
    The beauty of it will be all the applications you can load up.

  • just me

    Have to agree…….This phone in black will look hot.

  • SinCity

    Umm, what’s with all of the suprise? Don’t get me wrong, I’m as happy as anyone to see an actual photo of my next phone, but it looks exactly as it does in the sketched and photoshopped versions we’ve all seen. Abd not to mention the “Darth Vader” video.

    And @ Guillen, uhh, the touch screen is sitting right in front of you, big as day.
    And if your willing to pay 200-350 dollars for something to “show to your friends”, then mayb your better off with the Tocco or whatever its called.

  • Fbarkon

    In the great words of Ice cube… “Today was a good day…”

  • Thoth

    While I dont think this is not going to win any beauty contest I hope it make up in functionality. Similar to the Google website. Not the prettiest page out there but it does its job very well.

    I am a current curve user (ok, ok abuser) and while my device is not as sexy as an iphone it sure is much faster. I hope the G1 will follow along that line.

    And lmao @ Guillenx ” I can’t show this thing off to my friends that have an iphone, they would laugh at me.” After they laugh show them the iris password on ur phone or the barcode scanner. haha or even MMS.

  • Paul

    This phone is far from ugly. It looks nice as hell matter of fact. And this phone is not meant to be a fashion statement first, its all about android OS. So, if you’re not looking for functionality over beauty, look elsewhere. But, if you can settle for nice looking phone instead of sexy phone, but with the best OS in the WORLD, here is your Mrs. RIGHT!!

  • evan

    i’m a little dissappointed with the look of this phone. i mean if you put it side by side with the rest of htc’s line up this thing looks straight hideous. Not to mention the design and positioning of the qwerty looks wrong. theres more space on the right side then the left. doesnt this seem like its going to be awkward to text. the quality of this phone looks like a sidekick. the buttons look cartoonish at best. wheres the matte black. Please save us matte black. hopefully this is still the testing phone they used while working on android and htc has some insanely sexxxxy phone that has johnny cash’s swagger and a little bit kate beckinsales striking beauty!

  • InsiderwithInfo

    THIS IS NOT THE PHONE PEOPLE ITS IS A RUSE>>> THE REALY PHONE IS COMING>

  • ShotWithAnSLR

    My current thoughts on the G1 are this:

    It is kind of like your kid sister, you get excited at the thought of having one and then she comes along, and as is the case with all new-born babies, she is ugly. She grows on you though and befpre you know it all your friends want a piece. So sure this thing might not be as cosmetically refined as the iPhone, but looks aren’t what we are after, we want to have something that “just works”, something another product promised but fell a little short on.

  • just me

    Come on lets be honest……With people lucky enough to have a full upgrade coming and paying under 200 dollars for a phone that has what this does.3G.TOUCHSCREEN Please tell me how you could not be happy……..

  • Jeff C

    A general question to everyone who thinks this phone looks terrible – what would be your improvements?

    I personally think it looks fine and I can’t see anything that would really improve the design except to change the big-ass “MENU” on the menu button to an icon like the other four.

    Not too thrilled with the “trackball” thing but it looks more like a sensor for a fingertip than an actual moving ball. I’m concerned about finger oil and pocket lint gunking it up… had to throw away an Apple Mighty Mouse because the scroll ball got filled with crud. After 3 complete disassembles of the mouse and scroll ball sensor, I just got fed up with the amount of work required to maintain a mouse and threw it in the bin.

  • unrulywizdom

    @ShotWithAnSLR
    Nice analogy lol

    Anyway, I agree that it looks sort of like a toy compared to the likes of what HTC has put out lately, but I wouldn’t call it ugly. I admit that my first thought was that HTC did not spend nearly the same amount of resources as it did on their latest handsets. But that thought quickly left my mind.

    Let me say this, though: I love the Diamond and Touch Pro, however, if anyone tries to compare the Dream to any of those, they’d be missing the point. As much as I would like to see a refined, super fucking sexy, dope, beautiful, shiny iPhone trouncing phone (on the best carrier, T-mobile :)), the focus is on Android and the possibilities that it brings.

    And, yeah, the Black one would be much better looking.

  • just me

    @JEFF…I really do believe that is a finger sensor instead of a trackball….Blackberry is known for the trackball not HTC……..And from what i have seen from the pics i would have noticed a trackball by now so my thinking is a finger sensor

  • AVonGauss

    If this is the real phone, it would have been nice if they would have taken a picture of the system information screen, showing for instance, RAM?

  • Jeff C

    just me: HTC had one phone with a trackball, the P3300 with the RollR.

    http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/image/htc/love/pics/pic10.jpg

    The RollR is definitely a ball but most photos face on have it looking flat.

    http://www.elmasbarato.com.es/pub/images/htc_p3300.jpg

    So I dunno, but we’ll see at some point soon… I’m just trying to not let the fanboyism completely turn me off to this phone. It’s like the antichrist version of the Jesus Phone. If the OS is unusable, it’s going to suck no matter how hyped it is by either HTC, Tmobile, the user community, or, mephistopholies himself.

  • J-Hop2o6

    not bad.. but im still gettin the T919/Tocca unless we’re gonna get that MDA.. any info of that MDA coming to the states???

  • T1 Connect

    @jhop206 yes itsa coming in nov they wanna let da android shine b4 they hit the customers off wid da touch pro stack that bread and wait thats all u can do

  • J-Hop2o6

    @ T1 Connet

    REALLY!!? i thought it was confirmed that HTC wasn’t gonna release a AWS version.. by one of the pics, it looks like the Touch Diamond/MDA Compact (aka non-keyboard).. I want the Touch Pro/MDA Vario (aka w/ keyboard)

    but yea, im not getting the G1.. maybe the G2 later.. i juss want customers to give their feedback first.. and plus its not that attractive

  • chriaxx

    Ok. This phone is freaking ugly. The design looks cheap. And I am sorry but Android’s UI on this phone looks so generic. This is so not a dream… but not quite a nightmare either.

  • prophetic

    I love all the punks who complain about how they don’t like this phone because they can’t show it off to their iPhone-using friends. You know what? Be like your friends and get an iPhone! That’ll be one less person for me to contend with for the pre-sale supply.

  • Smoku
  • just me

    @JEFF……Did not know that….ty for the info

  • J

    Not too bad. I may wait for the T-929 Leica though. An 8 megapixel cam on the phone will be awesome.

  • drunkmoose

    Very nice.

  • just me

    @smoku/…ty for the link…….I stand corrected it is a scroll ball

  • well i like it , they did not take the same step the other cell phone makers did . they went out on a lim . but it does look a little cheap . but its the 1st of its kind . so thats what makes it hot . like paris hilton would say thats HOT !!!!!

  • Alex

    @J
    link for T-929 leica?

  • michaelk99

    I’m really disappointed with this and have been since the FCC pics came out. I was hoping for something that looked like the Touch Pro but with a larger screen. I usually love HTC’s designs but this is boring and kind of old looking.

  • ShotWithAnSLR

    the real question that I am sure everyone wants an answer to is:

    Does this phone come with that amazing leopard print back drops? That alone must be worth $300 large.

    When will we see pictures with better lighting, more detail, a novel idea would be a video of this unit in action.

    My experience with HTC has been pretty positive, minus faulty batteries, but at least we can replace our own batteries. Google also has yet to let me down, plus I never stop being amazed with what “We the People” can create for apps.

    Android > Apple

  • kdee

    does anybody know if it will have Wi-Fi/UMA calling?

    Also will it be able to do VOIP calling?

    That is what I really want to know………

  • Stalyn

    @guillenx : Get the Iphone and please your little friends you insecure retard.

  • Chairman Mao

    Overall, I think it is a decent looking phone. I am looking for a phone that is functional first, and a fashion statement second. So I am definitely stoked for this phone. Having said that, just some minor cosmetic changes would make this a better looking phone:

    1. eliminate the beveling between the bottom of the screen and the top of the chassis housing the buttons. That way, when the screen is closed, the phone would look like one “solid” unit, as opposed to “added on” look the button house currently has right now, and all you would see is a small thin line where the screen

    2. make the buttons larger. they seem comically small for the amount of space that surrounds them, and it would have been nice to have the whole button light up, as opposed to just an icon in the middle of the button.

    Just some thoughts….

  • Stalyn
  • Madison

    hey quick question,

    in an earlier post you said if your not “close” to a 3G network the presale price doesnt apply. how close is close, kansas city is on the list of cities & im in wichita, kansas.

    ive been holding on to my SK3 for long enough waiting for this.
    ha

  • dave

    The more I see and read about this phone the more I’m likely to pass. The design is terrible, the phone is a brick at 5.6oz and some key features seem to be lacking. I ask myself to do I really want to be an early adapter .. probably not. But I won’t make a final choice till I actually see the final product. Meanwhile I am also waiting for the Samsung 919 or whatever it will be called. I’m really interested in how that will compare to G1

  • de-fault

    i see it has a qwerty but is it true it also has a touch keyboard as well?

  • SheShe

    @madison im not sure how far wichita is from kansas city but if ur part of their metro area i think u would be far u can call and ask the rep if wichita is part of the kansas city market…
    @dave for me i like this phone vs the t919 because browsing the interenet is different on the t919 from what i saw its kind of stacked browsing and doesnt look like the actual website and this phone its the actual site and the keyboard

  • T1 Connect

    @jhop206 well tmonews did have a post that had a touch pro with no aws being tested by the fcc and on the post with the g1 logo revealed check my post for what i said to another user he is the one that said it and i believe it tmo cant just have the wing for a winmo phone thats leaving us out of the loop and for the rest of you guys stop complaining about the way the phone looks its different it looks nice and we dont fully know what tmo is gonna put in it if ya dont like it shut up about it keep that sh”t to yourselves. you’re really making it look bad for the people who want it. please!!!!!!

  • SheShe

    well T1 u have to admit they could of made it a little better looking… it is pretty early 90s but im still gettin it

  • bastos

    i’ve never been one to choose looks over personality, but this thing is hideous! i’ll stick with my curve until t-mobile decides to invest in focus groups.

  • mingkee

    I think the design is fine
    it should have good streaming support by the spec posted earlier
    now the final decision factor is data service

  • John

    Re: ugly

    Who gives a rat’s a**? I care more about functionality than fashion statements. It looks “good enough”. I only care whether or not it’s going to a good phone, a good internet device, and maybe a good gateway device for my laptop or umpc.

    I agree that the “trackball” looks more like a trackpad or finger sensor. I think that’d be better anyway. I hate the trackballs on the blackberries and sidekicks.

  • Check more photo’s out at:

    http://www.drea100.com

  • Marc

    The UI is more worrisome than the phone itself.

  • greg

    Question , what touch screen phone released in the last year or so looks worse?? for those that think its sexy must be fanboys … heck i was too until i stepped back and realized we were wrapped up in hype for a very average phone. i need a support group to get over this.

    shesh.

    i wa so pumped and android ready, since the specs and phone design details i am bummed big time. maybe i will join the freakin att network.

    at the end of the day ithe iphone really is much better than what were seeing here. i am holding out a few more weeks but damn…

    deal killers:
    no recent touchphone looks worse
    lacking headphone jack (htc jacks suck)
    presumed specs are at best on par with iphone and worse than any other smartphone being announced
    costs are within 5 a month so its not THAT cheap

  • remnique

    This one of the ugliest phones I have seen in years, was thinking about getting it for 1 of my upgrades. It looks like the side kick took several steps back in the design department, with that said, with an untested os, lack of word, excel, powerpoint its not worth it. also there is really no apps for it, and before you say it i know eventually they will get them. and for everyone who says they want functionality, over looks are lying, everyone wants a good looking phone, because if that wasn’t the case manufactures would make all phones look the same.

  • T1 Connect

    @sheshe well its not the most impressive phone ur right but people said the same thing about the wing hey it turned out fine plus itself whats inside that matters and i will get the android and the touch pro gansta stlye rock both of them android for play touch pro for eveything else……..1up

  • T1 Connect

    @ gregg take ya stinkin ass and bounce homie when att goes bankrupt again dont come back. cool.

  • MobileSurfer

    I use a HP Pavilion tx1000 tablet Notebook. It has buttons on the edge of the screen to use for DVD play/fwd/rew/stop.
    When using it as a PC tablet and trying to hold the Notebook in your hand, it VERY EASY to touch those buttons along the edge and instantly your out of PC-mode and into QuickPlay-DVD-mode. Very annoying!

    Where am I going with this and what does it have to do with the HTC-Dream?

    I hope that when the HTC-Dream screen is flipped open that those round buttons and MENU button located on the front of the mobile are inactive or hard-to-depress, otherwise while texting, a lot of HTC-Dream owners are going to be hitting these buttons with their right hand while gripping the mobile in landscape mode. It’ll be a bitch while surfing or texting to all of a sudden go to a MENU or HOME screen.

    Hope whomover is still working out bugs of the HTC-Dream, can write something into the settings that those button CAN be detactivated when accessing keyboard.

  • evan

    sorry but if i’m paying 300 dollars (existing customer) I better get a phone that matches the potential that i know htc can put out on the market. thats my two cents and dont worry i’m still buying it so dont have a heart attack!

  • J-Hop2o6

    @ T1 Connect

    your right about that loop thang.. but yea, im crossin’ my fingers for that HTC Touch Pro and a November release!!!

  • Greg

    @ T1 grow up before your parents block your internet access. If you’re pissed because I’m calling it the way it is then time to wake up. Many of us had wanted this phone to rock; I’ve checked the sites for months going nuts for details but the facts are obvious. IT may be an ok phone or maybe even good… but it won’t rock and it wont’ be an iphone killer by any means. That is what it was supposed to be. It was freakin called the dream…

    I’m no AT&T fan; i’ve been with Tmo for many years but I’ll let you work out your own issues.

    My prediction Android is AT LEAST a year from being a solid phone system and 2 years from having devices, software, SDK and community support to make it a real iPhone replacement.

  • kevinholikan

    Please god let the HTC touch pro rumors be true! I sent T-mobile an email a couple months ago complaining they weren’t getting this phone and it was a huge mistake on their part. I sent them links to point out the number of people that wanted this phone. Hopefully that helped out and this rumor is true.

  • kevinholikan

    ps wtf didn’t they take a picture of the thickness for god sake. They took pictures of every angle except the one I needed.

  • T1 Connect

    @mobile surfer yo i got a tx2000 ur damn right about those keys but its not the same premise the buttons on htc phone have trated us good so far i know im using one now but dud if its like the sidekick i am so giving that thing back to tmo i swear

  • T1 Connect

    @ gregg listen homie you aint tell me nothin new son i had tmo since omnipoint i work for another cafrrier thag can give me a free phone and i proudly rock a tmo phone
    for u to say im going to att keep that to urself i didnt say anything about it being an iphone killer i just want a new phone i stuck with winmo from 5 and tried a lot of apps for it. hell ive used a thousand cooked roms on my wing and im going to treat the andriod with the same respect dude all im saying is everything deserves a chance man the phone is nice got apps already so what the ram and rom is low its lunix it doesnt need a lot of both to run man show the phone some luv.

  • NuMb3rOne1

    so im reasking an unanswered question deal with it,

    does anybody know if it will have a touchscreen keyboard as well as the slideout keyboard? i still havent seen any pictures denying it and given that it is supposed to be an iphone killer shouldnt it share that feature?

  • NuMb3rOne1

    so im reasking an unanswered question deal with it,

    does anybody know if it will have a touchscreen keyboard as well as the slideout keyboard? i still havent seen any pictures denying it and given that it is supposed to be an iphone killer shouldnt it share or one up that feature?

  • John

    iPhone killer? Again, who gives a rat’s a**. If you need your ego stroked by being able to get back at the iPhone fanboys by having your own fashion accessory that’s even better … then grow up.

    I don’t want, nor care, about an iPhone killer. What I want is a device that does what I want it to, and does it well.

    Hell, the iPhone is an iPhone killer, as far as I’m concerned. It doesn’t do half the things I want. It kills itself.

    If the phone has the features you want, does them well, and has a usable interface, why do you care whether or not it’s an “iPhone killer”? That type of pissing contest is for 12 year olds.

  • Greg

    @John Where have you been?? Everybody gives a rat’s a**. It’s not about ego, fanboys, or being cool. It’s about having the latest and greatest (or close to it tech). And when the latest and greatest tech looks sexy it’s even better.

    People, including myself, want this to be an iPhone killer because the iPhone has shortcomings. We want the iPhone to have SERIOUS competition because we want the envelope pushed. But if you’re disapointed in the iPhone as you state, I don’t think you’ll be happy with the G1. And don’t give me the “open network, open apps” BS.

    Since this is not an iPhone vs. G1 thread; I’ll drop it. I brought it up only because the news further suggests this isn’t the phone for me, and I am pretty sure I’m not the only one who’s trying to decide between an iPhone and SOMETHING else.

  • mingkee

    it’s not about iPhone, G1, or whatever
    the phone fits my need, but I have to see what’s inside (I say software and spec)
    and I also have figure out how to add any400 messaging in order to have this device works with my VPN, I don’t want to lose it just for this phone

  • fmonk

    That UI is looking ugly and one of the prototype phones shown a long time ago looks much better than this. Pass.

  • boogyman

    I thought I would hate white and pick the black version, but now that I see the pictures its kinda growing on me. Not sure which to pick now.

  • SinCity

    I will most def be geting it in black. Just watched the Andy Rubin demo on youtube and the black verion looks so much better. Not that looks of the phone are a big issue with me I just prefer the black version to the white. And I think Rubin called that little ball a trackball, which I’m not a fan of but I don’t mind.

  • dbr

    Hey, I know this might be way out there, but what if what we are seeing is pictures of a T-mo branded testing device? What if there is still some secret device that no one has seen before out there? I think this might be some huge marketing ploy to get hype going so that when they release the real phone, everyone will get it cause it will look so much better than what we are seeing now.

  • Marc

    This is an HTC made device, so any chance of touch flo?

  • Marc

    @75 it does look like a testing device, it doesn’t look complete, and the phone itself looks kinda screwy, crooked even.

  • Marc

    Wouldn’t it be funny if the diamond or maybe the pro, was the G1 phone!

  • SheShe

    not really

  • edwin

    isnt that the Germany T-Mobile MDA Vario IV next to it in black?? i would love to see that coming our way!!

  • edwin

    @marc….it would be my dream come true!!

  • dbr

    See, now there is something that I would start camping for right now. TouchPro, T-mo branded, and with Android as the OS. That is EVERYONE’S DREAM!

  • edwin

    dude thats so not gonna come true!

  • T1 Connect

    i think this the phone what we are seeing is a screen and few apps it not a final product usually when you get a tmo phone there is tmo branded icons all over the screen all we see is google apps theres no side view to see tmo shortcut keys there no network name just and esclamation point yet the phone has signal thats difenetly it but not the final product

  • Nathan

    Sharp lost the contract to the Sidekick. Sidekick needs a new OS. T-mobile needs to revive a stagnant brand. Stagnant is the Sidekick, Android is the new OS. That is Android but not on an HTC. First off, no CMOS front facing camera for Video Calling. T-mobiles Tri-Band 3G network is more than capable of video calling. HTC makes CMOS cameras for all their phones. T-mobile has a secret and everyone is headed in the wrong direction. T-mobile knows it and they are loving it. Have fun buying a 400 dollar 3G Sidekick!

  • SheShe

    thats not a sidekick

  • T1 Connect

    no front facing cam tmo isn’t ready for that yet and does anyone notice this thing is surrounded by european phones if its for tmo usa why is it around a mda IV and a european 8525

  • Erica

    It’s hideous. I may not be swooning over the iPhone or drooling over it (I don’t care for it) but just because its functional doesn’t mean it cam be ugly. It can be both: HTC Touch Diamond/Pro is a perfect example of that. This thing looks gigantic, which may be fine for large hands but not for small hands. And how thick it is? No matter which way you cut it if it’s a brick, it’s going to get old fast as smartphones slim down which is the trend. (I own a smartphone… 90% functionality, 10% looks.)

    I’m tired of the Andriod this, Android that. Most smartphones are buggy when they are first released and it only gets better after manufacturer/hacked firmware fixes. This isn’t just a new smartphone, but a new OS. Plus open source app development? What’s the point in having the phone if you can’t even use it to its full functionality? It takes months for the community to grow to have a wide/broad array of programs.

    Honestly, still feels like I’m with the wrong carrier. T-Mobile better have more up their sleeve.

  • J-Hop2o6

    @ T1 Connect

    i was wondering why is was between European phones (8225 & MDA Vario IV) also.. hmmm

  • T1 Connect

    yo hop ya know what im thinking thats htc’s test shop or something

  • J-Hop2o6

    ^^

    probably.. i forgot the G1 is made by HTC

  • SiliconAddict

    Dear God….where to start. *shakes head* First off everyone needs to calm the hell down. Secondly there is Android itself. People get a clue. This thing is probably NOT going to ship with the default color scheme. The colors being displayed are freakishly ugly. I’d be willing to bet my yearly salary that T Mob has a designers working on the “look” of Android. Have no fear the OS will look teh sexy by the time it ships. Next up is the device itself. The front of it SCREAMS prototype. Hell the backlight on the buttons isn’t even, even.
    People need to chilax.

  • fmonk

    @ Erica

    I agree with you completely!

  • VooDooVixen

    @ Silicon

    I agree that this is still not a finished phone. Why are there curiously no pics of the back for us to see the camera. Maybe because no one puts a camera in a prototype. And also, why force that tmobile signature at the top near the speaker. There is pleeeeenty space near the bottom. No designer in his/her right mind would leave all that space there. Lastly, HTC loves their black/green color scheme. Its their new brand look if you go to the website. The latest phones have that scheme as well. Why would they put big a@# colored call/end buttons on the front. Those are my reasons. Please join me on the G1 Ruse train in the forums if you guys agree.

  • Alex

    I think this is just another unfinished product to create more hype. Anybody else?

  • T1 Connect

    @alex yo yesterday when i saw it it looked nice but that was on my wing last night i good home and looked at it on my pc and screamed prototype

  • SheShe

    T1 i hope that that is the prototype i just dont think HTC would make that the final product

  • just me

    I can not see that as the final verison of the phone..I think it will be close to what we are looking at but with all the HTC phones i have seen to me this would not be the type of phone they would come out with

  • Erica

    I’m pretty sure this is not a prototype. Commonly when pictures surface on the internet of a highly anticipated phone, you’ll get 90% of what you see (it’s a near-finished or near-completed prototype). Besides, I highly doubt HTC and T-Mobile will pass a prototype version to the FCC. If anything, the form factor will remain the same. Whether they gloss it up, etcetera, is up for grabs.

  • … It looks like a white wing

  • dbr

    It would not take very much at all to re-skin it with a better looking case. There would not be a huge retooling of the production line, because you would be keeping the same internals, and the the same frame and structure. I bet they already have the new skin ready and installed. That is why the FCC pictures are accurate. The “leaked” blueprints are for the prototype phone. Just think about this, why would T-Mo release a phone that has been all over the internet for almost a year as the prototype build? Virtually unchanged mind you. They wouldn’t. There is no marketing sense in that. If they are making the next new greatest phone since the Jobsphone, they would make it the flashiest thing out there today. I think we will all be pleased with the finished product.

  • T1 Connect

    the jobsphone i like that as far as the fcc i seen the diamond for sprint when it passed the fcc with touchflo in it and all the htc add ons but sprint changed a few things in it since it hit them including no touchflo and even a htc victor look thats no diamonds different color even the face looks a little different from the original plus isnt the fcc all about frequency and not about looks

  • justinhub2003

    this is the reason people are so upset about this phone, everyone is expecting this great new device and buuilding it up so high in there heads that nothing that is released will not be up to par and the ones that saying its a prototype are the ones gonna be more upset when its not and this is the real deal. i like the phone i think we get three phone features wrapped in one. the keyboard (sidekick) the roller ball thing (blackberry devices) and a touchsreen ( iphone, etc). i also think that the device it some what shaped and set up like a PC computer with the screen in front,keyboard directly below and the mouse to the right (rollerball thing, cant remember actual term), its different rather than the diamond which is a iphone rip off

  • T1 Connect

    @justinhub2006 why do u think the diamond is a iphone rip off

  • remnique

    if this was a prototype, why would they brand it. sorry everyone this will be the final version of the phone. the phone is really ugly, it fits in with their #1 phone line, the sidekick. it looks like a toy, which is geared toward their target market, teenagers! think about it, the top 50 apps are mostly social networking apps. i love tmobile, but it is rapidly become bad place for business users.

  • T1 Connect

    listen you dont think htc has a tmo logo laying around somewhere that they could just throw a logo on there for executive demo porposes remember the first color phone in the us the scp 5000 i saw it at a convention for sprint branded and eveything final product totaly different im just sayin the dream could be different

  • remnique

    that might be true, but you are now talking about a phone that is about a month from hitting the open market, and about 2 weeks from presale, and i am sorry no one will buy the phone sight unseen. the reason you are seeing pics now is so people will not drop $150 for a phone they won’t get for a few weeks after that. face it, the phone is ugly and everyone thinks its ugly, except the fan boys. that is why everyone hopping this is not the final design.

  • SheShe

    remnique im pretty sure tmobile will show the final product in an add before the pre sale. it wont just be a leaked photo

  • remnique

    i do believe they are going to show the final product before lauch, but what i’m saying its not going to stray to far from this design.

  • T1 Connect

    alright next scernario what we see is a prototype what we will see is a surprise entry on mytombile when we go to start the presale and we will see a totaly different phone the presale will be the real revealing of the real phone the the tv ads start rolling so the public can see. remember this phone we see looks not like a fully branded tmo phone but a prototype. its even laying next to two other phones that came out already IN EUROPE and it has signal and no network branding on any screen not even on the home screen no tmo Icons(one again and no sideview for viewing shortcut keys and in the words of the great jerry seinfeld: whats the deal with that?

  • SheShe

    i dont think its gonna differ completely but they could make it smoother and sleeker

  • T1 Connect

    she she i want u to watch this and tell me what u think and see look at the prototye and get some info from google even the host is dissin the iphone and see what this guy from google says and then look at the phone and tell me if it isnt the same phone
    video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gR4QsrJfYE&feature=related
    phone:
    http://tmonews.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/attachment-5.jpg

  • SheShe

    that is the same phone ive seen that phone alot in demos just this one is in white

  • Ashley

    im not completely sure what the BIG deal is about this phone. it looks a lot like the sidekick with a missing side, which seems like it could be odd to type with.I dont know what exactly the Android is suppose to do, and how its suppose to be different from any other phone. Their has been so much hype about the “1st android phone”, but i dont know i just think i expected something a little more impressive. And of course with every other phone out there, when its the 1st phone of its kind it always has glitches and such, i’d probablly wait for the 2nd or 3rd generation to come out before i choose to buy one.

  • james gore

    Hey! Hey! F the iphone. Its the google phone not the instinct or the iphone so ye stop. Crying

  • T1 Connect

    @she she ya see why i think its still a prototype watch the presale its probably going to be a different phone and can ya please stop talking about the iphone that has nothing to do with us we are tmo customers we talk about tmo stuff here if you have iphone and it says att in the top left corner ya dont belong in this here forum. go away or come to the pink side.

  • Darrell

    I highly doubt these pics represent the look of the finished product. I would say that 50% of the appeal of the iphone is the look, design, form factor. So with so much hype for Android, for Google, for Tmobile, and even for HTC., I really cant believe that this is the best they can do. What would seem believable would be for all these companies to agree to create the biggest first impression ever. (In the efforts to try to top the iphone) and in doing so, give some generic pics to keep the buzz and hype alive until the ultimate unveiling. I mean, with the expectations on appearance set low, they will blow people away with a super sleek never before seen design…

  • SheShe

    @ashley its not really the phone people are impressed its the OS These are some of the first demos i saw

    http://www.phonemag.com/htc-dream-phone-031838.php

    ive been following alot about what it can do

  • needanswer

    will it have an onscreen touch keyboard as well as the slide out? and i see you have the 35$ data plan, what if all you want is the internet part how much should that run?

  • T1 Connect

    man $35 for 3g and $20 for edge im going with the $35 and we still dont know if thats set in stone and it should have onscreen keyboard it would be retarted to have a touchphone with a non touchscreen keyboard

  • WazzuKirk

    I find that phone hot as hell.

  • needanswer

    yeah i know that would be stupid to not have the onscreen keyboard, im still debating whether to get this, the tocco, or wait till january and get the leica,
    but those plans are pretty expensive considering that im already paying 20$ a month so my family can have texting and then i have to pay an additional 35$ for that…

  • Darrell

    in that phonemag.com link, Rubin says a couple different times that its just a reference design. I’m guessing, by reference design, he means just a simple design that allows him to utilize the software via this reference hardware. I’m convinced this is not the end product. There’s no way, they have too much to lose for this to be a flop.

  • T1 Connect

    it wont be a flop if this is the final product
    custmer surveys will probably be taken and it will be revised too bad u cant send it back for the revised version

  • Rockstar_Mentality

    This can’t be it, I’ve waited soooooooo long?!?!? Come harder HTC/Google!!! I still have faith in you but this is unacceptable!!! (I’m still a fan of the OS though it could use some tweaking. Where is TAT’s contributions?!?!?!

  • greg

    Were two weeks away from presale… you’re in fantsy land if you think there is a secret design that has yet been seen.

    This is the product, like it, love it or hate it. To be fair none of these photos have good lighting, etc. I think the photoshop pics are your best bet to get a sense of the phones look.

  • DR

    Why is it so out of the realm of possibility that there is a different lookiing phone waiting in the wings to suprise everyone? Like I said before, it would take very little to take the skin off and make it a great looking phone. The FCC (if you are basing your judgements on the accidentally leaked schematics) is an agency whose main goal is internal electronics and signal interference. They could care less what the outside of the device looks like. If they did, you would never be able to get the external case mods that are prevelant in the aftermarket. If you are basing your opinion on the quality and time of release of the pictures, I again say that there is little change in the overall appearance of the phone from the prototype we all saw almost a year ago. I don’t think it is unreasonable to believe that the phone could change in the 8 months since we first saw the phone. Just because it has T-Mobile plastered on the front doesn’t mean it is the real phone and not a prototype. There is this group called the OHA (Open Handset Alliance.) You don’t think that maybe HTC would offer to make all the carrier members of the OHA a prototype device to help them work on their own versions of Android? If I was the head of a company that had recently announced intentions of increasing sales and brand recognition, I would be handing these things out to carriers like skittles to 3rd graders.

    I, like quite a few others, don’t mind the looks of the phone as it stands. But, I think that it is entirely possible that this is not the phone that will be released. T-Mobile has been number one in customer service for quite some time. (I know they recently lost that distinction.) I think they are poised to become a company with a phone that will rival the popularity of the JobsPhone given the right look and promotional campaign.

    Either way, I have my $150 waiting.

  • T1 Connect

    @DR thank you. dude ive been saying the same thing. the other thing is its surrounded by eroupean phones. that could be a prototype laying around in htc’s test facility and the tmobile logo just tells the workers this is who the carrier is going to be for the internals. once again the phone doesn’t even have carrier id on the screen but it has signal but it is tmobile branded. man thats not the dream. we’ll see the real thing on the presale or a couple of days before.

  • SoccerMomsSuckAMeanDick

    It’s the ‘butt’ portion. That lower 1/5th of the phone w/ the function buttons and sensor. it makes it look like a Zune or iPod with an FM radio-tranmitter plugged into the bottom, like that whole portion could snap off. If only HTC had been able to make that part of the phone smaller somehow, it wouldn’t be so unsightly.

    Regardless, I’m still interested in the Dream for it’s function and Android. Besides, it may look better in person that in pictures.

  • voodoovixen

    According to androidcommunity.com these were apparently found on a Chinese forum thread. Which is probably why they are next to those non-us phones. I’m also guessing its from some sort of testing facility. They probably have a few of these laying around over there. None of which, may I add, have a jogball.

    http://androidcommunity.com/t-mobile-g1-phone-images-leaked-20080830/

  • Darrell

    greg, you are naive.

  • T1 Connect

    dude why naive i mean why

  • T1 Connect

    dudes they just released a new rom and ram for the dream from 128-256 rom and from 64 to 128 ram
    http://androidguys.com/2008/08/28/more-g1-specs-than-you-can-shake-a-stick-at/

  • Greg

    @ Darrell: Brilliant.

    I take back everything. I absolutly think this must be a prototype…

  • voodoovixen

    @ T1 Connect

    Actually they changed that a while back. Which makes me question their “sources”. After all, they denied the thing would be coming out soon, then jumped on the bandwagon later.

  • T1 Connect

    it would be funny if it gets released tomorrow and surprise whole new design

  • Darrell

    sorry, that was way harsh. Group hug.

    We’re all just guessing here, but i’m willing to bet 20 that the phone in the pics will slightly resemble the finished product.

    Please dont hate me….

  • T1 Connect

    na u right i do too but thats difinetly not the finished the product

  • SheShe

    well im just waitin for a comercial or something… come on tmobile give us some news!!