(Updated) Breaking: T-Mobile USA And Apple Have Reached An Agreement To Sell Apple Products

Breaking: T-Mobile USA and Apple have entered into an agreement to sell the Apple products on T-Mobile’s network in 2013.

“T-Mobile USA has entered into an agreement with Apple to bring products to market together next year,” said DT in a press release.

You can watch the Deutsche Telekom Investor day event here.

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  • Garrett

    Whoa.

  • Congratulations T-Mobile!! Finally!

  • gigis83

    Took forever

  • charles barker

    If this is not a hoax, Hell ya!

  • thepanttherlady

    So not an Apple fan but this news has excited me for those that are. *fingers crossed* that this won’t impact current pricing. :)

    • Yeah I need to know the details. We can’t afford to subsidize it without giving something up… the economics just aren’t there.

      • thepanttherlady

        Speculation has been that it may only be offered on the Value plan so no subsidy. I would prefer that scenario over our plan pricing being upped to accommodate it.

        Now the waiting game. :)

        • That’s been my thought as well, but that’s going to *INFURIATE* classic/legacy customers…

        • thepanttherlady

          No matter what, someone is going to complain. They complained there was no iPhone. T-Mobile gets the iPhone, they’re going to complain about pricing, plans, etc. It will be interesting though to see how this all plays out.

        • mrsbelpit

          I don’t see why, they’d be paying less than a classic plan.

        • Except for those that aren’t eligible to move to Value without paying the migration fee.

        • flan

          Wouldn’t those same people also not be eligible for the subsidized price anyway?

        • *IF* there is a subsidized price.

          Remember – if they subsidize it they have to make the $$ up somewhere.

        • SmartAzz

          If they decide to subsidize it, I wouldn’t put it past T-Mobile to put the 16GB model at $349.99, if not $399.99, with no rebate.

        • CalicoKJ

          Three words: Bridge to Value

        • PhantomWraith

          The Classic/Legacy Customers came for the pricing not for the iphone that’s why they are classic/legacy customers. Like me.

        • thatguy

          Except we will pay more due to a “surcharge” on data plans. The other carriers do it so I am sure TMO will as well.

        • CEEverett

          I think you may have hit the nail on the head given the other news indicating that T-Mo wants to convert all their customers to Value plans.

          http://www.tmonews.com/2012/12/t-mobiles-challenger-strategy-continues-with-100-move-to-value-plans-in-2013/

        • CEEverett

          I think you may have hit the nail on the head given the other news indicating that T-Mo wants to convert all their customers to Value plans.

          http://www.tmonews.com/2012/12/t-mobiles-challenger-strategy-continues-with-100-move-to-value-plans-in-2013/

    • Legione13

      I prefer Android, but I agree. Anything that will help T-Mobile be more competitive is good news in my book.

    • Addam

      please don’t pee on this wonderful day! :)

      • thepanttherlady

        I’m not! I said that even though I’m personally not a fan, I’m happy for those that are!

        • Addam

          all true, but, in fairness, you closed with “*fingers crossed* that this won’t impact current pricing. :)”, which is just a tad Debbie Downer, especially on such a joyous occasion. Christmas came early this year!

        • thepanttherlady

          Sorry but it’s true. I AM happy for iPhone fans but am hoping that this won’t raise my prices to have it. I am not alone in this hope.

          If it makes you feel better, I would say the same no matter what the phone was (e.g. Blackberry, Android, iPhone, Windows etc.)

          With that being said, Happy early Christmas! Does this mean I get to celebrate my birthday early too? =P

        • Addam

          I’m the day after xmas, so I guess tomorrow’s my cake day?

        • thepanttherlady

          Mine is on Christmas so we both can have cake! Let them all have cake! lol

        • Addam

          You’ll always remember where you were on this day!

        • SmartAzz

          Agreed 100%. I’m not an Apple fan, and I’d hate to have to pay higher prices to subsidize the iPhone.

      • She won’t but there’s no guarantee that I won’t >:]

        • thepanttherlady

          Bwaahahahahaha!!!

    • Just like you I’m not an apple fan and also excited. At least this will give TMobile fighting chance about being in the 4 major carriers. I just hope they stay true to their customers and not become att.

    • tomnewtn

      I thought about that too, but you would think TMO would want to maintain current rates so as to incentivize people to come on board. Otherwise, it will come down to who has the best network coverage I suppose and TMO may not come out the winner on that basis. I use an unlocked iPhone but have also used Android. I like things about both. Apples hardware is top shelf and a pleasure to use. We’ll see how my Nexus 4 compares when it arrives today. Either way, it’s great if TMO can offer customers the choice they’ve been deprived of for so long at competitive pricing.

    • This will impact pricing and your service.

      • thepanttherlady

        We shall see. After reading the new article regarding T-Mo going 100% Value plans in 2013, I’m not so sure this will be completely accurate.

    • This will impact pricing and your service.

    • Get_at_Me

      i dont think tmo will hike up rate plan prices (esp with the shift to 100% value plans)…Hopefully the iphone will bring churn stability to TMO

    • Get_at_Me

      i dont think tmo will hike up rate plan prices (esp with the shift to 100% value plans)…Hopefully the iphone will bring churn stability to TMO

    • nycplayboy78

      PantherLady I am not an Apple fan either but this scares me…HOLD ME….I r have allergies to the Crapple….I don’t want to catch the Apple :p

      • thepanttherlady

        You’re a dork. And immune so you’ll be fine. :)

        • nycplayboy78

          Oh how I love you so :)

  • Addam

    Wow! I feel like I just won an AVN Award!! I’ve waited so long for this. I don’t know what to say. I’ve been buying unlocked phones and saving my upgrade for this moment!. I’ve also been checking TMOnews every day for this news and it’s finally here! Thank you David for always keeping us informed!

    • Mark Reese

      Where can I find your award winning performance

      • xmiro

        I second that motion

  • Trapper

    Woo hoo!! Keeping the faith with T-Mobile is finally going to pay off. Great customer service AND the iphone. Sweet.

  • Ski589

    Awesome! Finally!!!

  • Prox

    I hope that part of that contract doesn’t affects pricing like it did with VZW. When Apple came to VZW I had to wait two years to upgrade instead of one year.

  • cintara

    No 4g anyweare

    • Little T

      HUH? they are not going to be selling iPhones made for another network.

  • I am a sales rep…I will NOT sell this phone at my store, as a Rep. This is a Dumb move. What is our profit margin? $40 per phone. This will break us the way it ALMOST broke SPRINT.
    PERIOD. P.S. My SAMSUNG NOTE 2 ate 2 Apples for Breakfast this morning.

    • thepanttherlady

      It’s about what the customer wants, not what you want as an employee. I abhor representatives of any company with this attitude.

      • Addam

        2nd that

      • TyRetr0

        I agree

    • You are a moron. ***takes bath in commission $$$****

    • Trevnerdio

      Although I do love the Note II, listen to what the others have said up top-no subsidies means not much profit loss, if any

    • CRT24

      That is a stunningly ridiculous attitude you have there….let the company worry about the economics of the deal. But regardless, if a deal is made then you choosing not to sell that phone is cutting off your nose to spite your face dont you think? if you only sell to customers what YOU like then I would imagine that your not a very good sales rep to begin with. Becuase whether you like the I-phone or not, many customers do and unless your commission will somehow be reduced by selling the phone then you have no basis for taking that stance besides stupidity. The deal that will be made will cost the company what ever it costs whether you want to sell the phone or not so you might want to re-think your position on this.

    • trife

      So you’re going to ignore what a customer wants AND potentially put your job in jeopardy by refusing to do (sell) what you’re hired to do?

      We need less reps like you. Never let your personal preferences/opinions get in the way of business.

    • ed lanum

      if you were all that knowledgeable about profit margins you wouldnt be working in a retail store trust me

    • PoopeyDooPoop

      lollllll what an idiot, you’re about to make that much more commission money from people upgrading to these phones, they did raise what they pay on those ya know…..

    • Eric

      Ok, Mr. Android fanboy. If you don’t sell what the consumer wants, YOU’RE FIRED.

  • trife

    FINALLY!!!!!!!!!

    *waits for the Android fanboys to bitch and moan*

    (currently using the Nexus 4–don’t tase me Android bros)

    • Saying you are using a nexus 4 makes you unbiased and that your opinion is now somewhat validated /s

      • trife

        Oh.

  • FlyOhMy

    FINALLY!!!!! we’re coming for the #1 spot! :)

    • Trevnerdio

      Yep, just like 60 million customers to go!

      • trife

        I chuckled. Repped.

      • JB

        It’s gonna be an effort, that’s for sure, but when folks realize that they can pay $55/mo for unlimited voice/msg/data on their iPhone 5 instead of $130 or more for capped/throttled usage on Verizon or AT&T…yeah, they’ll eventually see the $$$ saved and come running.

        • vivi77

          There’s a $55 unlimited value plan?

        • SmartAzz

          T-Mobile needs to significantly improve coverage in order for that to happen.

        • Dakota

          Youre assuming prices will stay the same. And if theyre only going to do value pricing, a lot of people may be turned off

        • Dennis Estrada

          I stay with AT&T for their coverage, not their prices. T-Mobile doesn’t even have 3G where I live much less 4G. No one provider is best for everyone but AT&T works best for me, yes even better than Verizon.

        • bleeew

          I have 6GB on share plan. I miss my unlimited data on LTE. I switched 3 days ago. Its expensive but someone kept going out of minutes so we had to switch to tiered sadly. I would go to T-Mobile, but they need better coverage, then were talking.

        • Jarrod

          You need to use VoIP calling over your unlimited data plan so you get the best of both worlds.

        • Trevnerdio

          that’s like cheating lol they’d never do that

      • bleeew

        15 million a quarter should be easy!

        • Trevnerdio

          Not when you’re accustomed to losing over 100,000 a quarter :|

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    • remister
    • So with the very recent news that T-Mobile is moving to 100% value plans. this means no subsidies on the iphone. So I support this all the way as no pricing should be raise and technically should cost tmobile that much money.

      • Dakota

        But paying full price for an iphone may be s uch a turnoff to customers that they dont even look further. Just like they did with the SG3 and other handsets where they keep pricing them higher than every other carrier.

        • K_Hart

          If you do the math, the $$ you save from being on a Value plan FAR outweighs any discount you would get on a phone. I would recommend the Value plan to anyone over the Classic

    • Houston Best

      Luda!!!!

    • Brandon Chang-Cordner
    • Very exciting news!

  • Bratty

    Hellz ya. I have 2 upgrades ready. Bring on the goodness.

  • Sinner

    my wife needs an upgrade this might be it although i dislike it but function wise its a good choice.

  • D_Wall__

    This is great news!! I love my S3 but not i can get my girl a better girly phone..

    • Herb

      Burn.

  • coopere

    Hope it will be beneficial to T-Mo and not just Apple

  • j

    Never thought it wouldhappen

  • Brian

    “T-Mobile USA has entered into an agreement with Apple to bring products to market together next year” Per the Deutsche Telekom Capital Markets Day 2012 Media guide

  • Hilton GoWahoos Redskins

    Why? The iphone isn’t that big a deal anymore now that Android phones are better. This just means T-mo is going to waste money subsidizing phones that cost more than they should which will cost the rest of us $$$.

    • thepanttherlady

      It is a very big deal for some and has been for quite a while now.

      And without all the details, we don’t know what exactly this means or how T-Mobile will be handling it. :)

    • TyRetr0

      It’s a big deal alright… if you want the best android phone on T-Mobile you have to fork over $279 + mail in rebate.. On top of that the only way to get an android phone with the most up to date OS you have to get a nexus.

      • Jesse James

        why do you really need android 4.2? people make such a big deal about android being slow to update but if your phone works the same as hen you bought it whats the big deal? Everytime apple releases a new phone the old ones do get updated but features get left out so really whats the difference?

        • Cherry pickers are what I call those people always have to find something to make iPhone look more desirable funny thing is every apple update lacks something that the current iPhone has

        • nyuhsuk

          What? You haven’t noticed the world is like 99% whiners nowadays about any little detail, acting as if they’re the experts on every one of those subjects they like to nag about?
          Truthfully, there are some really nice features that are unfortunately only available on the newer releases of any mobile OS that people will miss out on if they have an older device. In the PC realm, this is rarely a problem. In the mobile realm, happens quite often. Guess which came first and made everybody develop a ‘gimme gimme’ attitude?

        • wakkoman

          What a terrible “point”

        • well said

    • xmiro

      we don’t know the details, they might not even subsidize the phone

    • It’s the best selling phone on the market. Yes it is a big deal.

  • JeffWalenta

    There goes the neighborhood

  • Someone is really excited about this news here the comments.

  • Love it or hate it, they need this to make the playing field fair at this point.

  • Addam

    I wonder what the chances are we get wifi calling?

    • xmiro

      im guessing nil unless it can be done via app

  • NOOOOOOOOO!!!! This is gonna trash our data rates :( I still remember the day the iPhone first came out, I was an AT&T customer, happy as a clam using my Windows Mobile with data plan to surf & tether at will. Once it came out I could barely get a data connection & when I did the speed was terrible.

    If this helps TMo prevent customer churn & attract new ones then good for them but I really hope they didn’t make the “deal with the devil” like Sprint did.

    • Ceefu

      Some key differences:

      1. Tmo already estimates there to be well over 1 million iPhone users on their network.
      2. Tmo is the 4th carrier (not counting resellers) to have the iPhone
      3. The iPhone is not the “it” phone it was when it first came out.

      These all *should* help keep the impact low.

      • Here’s hoping. Yeah I agree it probably caught AT&T off-guard; carriers pay much more attention to data connectivity these days in general (it was more a novelty back then).

        • 21stNow

          I don’t know about data being a novelty in 2007. It may not have been as widely used, but I would not call it a novelty at that point. I have had a data plan since 2002 and I wasn’t among the first onboard to use data on a cell phone.

      • The impact on T-Mobile will be significant. It will help greatly with stopping churn if anything. Sprint even started gaining subscribers again after they got the iPhone despite their horrible network.

        Keep in mind that T-Mobile will also be the only GSM carrier to offer the iPhone with truly unlimited data. Unlimited data will be a major selling point since the speeds are actually fast unlike Sprint. AT&T will likely be the biggest losers of T-Mobile joining the iPhone party.

        • Ceefu

          My response was targeted at Toby’s concern about our data rates getting trashed.

          There is no doubt this will have a HUGE and POSITIVE impact on Tmo as a company. And I’m all for it.

        • Ceefu

          I was referring to impact on the network. I agree that it will pay HUGE dividend to the overall health of the business.

    • JustSaying

      Actually probably not… if the iPhone is only on the Value Plan i’m sure T-Mobile is paying far less than Sprint did.

      • GS3

        I’m not sure I understand what this means.. I think the reason tmobile has value plan is for the customers to partially pay for their phones .. I’m not sure if tmobile has the same deal with apple? How does the agreement work between them? Like tmo pays a certain amount to apple under a contract for a few yearsand hhow much apple devices they’re gonna make for tmobile? I don’t think value plan has anything to do with it.. I think apple has succumbed to being more competitive and gain marketshare..

        • GS3

          It’s not like tmo is also paying apple partially for their products.. I think they pay in full under a contract and it’s up to tmo how they want to sell the products..

        • GS3

          I’m not sure by the way..

  • gnd

    Weird that the announcement just says some Apple products. Does not specify I phone! could be that they are aonly going to be selling wifi I pads!

    • thepanttherlady

      Baby steps =P

    • thepanttherlady

      And the update didn’t clarify either. :/

      • Whitney

        It good you told me to wait. I guess I can mirgrate to value plan using EIP right?

        • thepanttherlady

          Yes, you can migrate to the Value plan but since your contract is up in June, wait until closer to then so you don’t have to pay a migration fee. You can call T-Mo to find out when that is. When you do migrate, don’t utilize the EIP until the phone you want is available because you’re only allowed one device at a time per line utilizing the EIP option. You can continue using the same phone you have when you migrate until then.

        • Whitney

          I wait until it closer then. Mean time I can finally get my driver license. I am legally blind and legally deaf on my left side of face

    • Whitney

      I think it safe to say iphone and ipad. Why would T-mobile sale the ipod

  • Symsoul

    It’s about time. I could care less about Apple products but this iwas a long time coming.

  • chris125

    They better expand their network before this

  • bleeew

    Great Job! GL and bring more competition to the market. I wish the best, hopefully T-Mobile can keep its customers.

  • I’m excited that T-Mobile will now better their service and people will finally experience 4G Unlimited on their iPhones ..as an Android fan I highly agree with TMos move because It’s all about business. Like if you feel happy for Apple fans

  • fsured

    We can’t say it will be bad financially until TMO releases the prices and details. They may offer it at a hefty price for the customer with a smaller rebate/discount to protect their revenue. Will it require 2yr classic contract with 5gig data plan, etc. Lets hold judgment until we know the fine print.

  • noelsito

    I can’t believe it, after years, T-Mo did it!! AH I’M SO HAPPY! Thanks David!! :)

  • melon3531

    This may be saying more about Apple’s current frame of mind about the iPhone, than T-Mobile caving in. Apple may have finally just accepted what T-Mobile was willing to do rather than T-Mobile finally coming up to Apple’s level. We shall see about that. Anyway, I’ve never been an iOS fan and I’m not about to become one with this either…

    • Get_at_Me

      Apple had nothing to lose by negotiating with TMO. As a supplier, why would you refuse to sell your product to a specific customer because they refuse to accept a hefty volume/lengthy contract? They should be satisfied with making some money from TMO rather than none.

  • elijah

    Hopefully they can have almost all of there GRPS, EDGE network up to at least 3G by the time they get anything Apple. They will need it even more then.

  • Always

    Damn I just signed up with AT&T, anyone know if the unlimited data will stick? May have to switch… Again

  • TyRetr0

    Finally!! I guess they just had to wait until they reaffirmed their network and when they launch LTE.

  • trife

    I think the obvious question here is how will they market this in areas that haven’t been re-farmed yet?

    I had the iPhone 4 awhile back and while it was cool when I was on WiFi, being stuck on EDGE out in the real world suuuuuuuuuuuuucked. As much as I like the iPhone 5, there is absolutely no way I’d get it if I wasn’t able to utilize 3G. LTE will come, but you have to be able to at least get 3G in this day and age.

    • tomnewtn

      I wouldn’t get the iPhone 5 if there is an iPhone 5S coming soon. Just rumors right now though but some pics released through C n e t that seem to suggest a new revision (like they did with the 4) has been in the works. I sent back my iPhone 5…I just like the feel and build of my 4s better.

  • ed lanum

    wow. finally!!. very excited to upgrade to an iphone….wait….i dropped t-mobile 2 years ago cuz they didnt have the iphone. oh well too late!

  • TMoFan

    I’m Android all the way but I’m really happy to hear this news. This won’t solve all of our problems but it will help. LTE-A iPhone would dominate!

  • The Architect

    Guess it’s time to open up the flood gates and let in the “drowning rats” with their iPhags from other carriers to hog up our bandwidth and jack up our rates! smh!

    • xmiro

      don’t tempt the devil now

  • Mirad77

    Let’s wait for devil in the details to know what’s really gonna happen.

  • xmiro

    hopefully it’s not going to hemorrhage them like Sprint. Maybe it will be a Value plan only deal although the EIP doesn’t add up to $649

    • thepanttherlady

      We won’t know until the details/pricing are announced.

      EIP’s are not the same pricing straight across the board for every device. It will be calculated accordingly.

      • xmiro

        yeah but it’s either $15 or $20 a month and around $199 down without promos for high-end devices

        • CalicoKJ

          Note2 is a higher down payment (299)…at least in my area

        • thepanttherlady

          The down payments for high end devices on the Value plans are typically $249+. Then you have the $15 or $20 monthly payments for 20 months which make up the remaining $300-400 of the phone. For example: $249 down with 20/$20 monthly payments = $649.

          Occasionally they do have sales which make the overall cost of the phone less which is why they call it a “sale”. For those, the down payment would be less (most likely involving a MIR). I’ll use your # as an example: $199 down (after MIR) plus 20/$20 monthly payments = $599.

        • Whitney

          Does that plan include unlimited data, minutes and text

  • I don’t really care about the iPhone – but yes, it will be good for the company to put separation between them and the other pre-paids. It’s mostly an image thing at this point.

  • SammieB

    In case Sprint wasn’t already convinced they’re about to lose their #3 spot, this should do it.

    • SouthernBlackNerd

      You do know that sprint’ CDMA brand has experienced the highest amount of growth in recent years, and that is with a shitty 3G network.

      I would not count them out just yet. Tmobile still has a ways to go before they can start calling for that number 3 spot.

  • fbphilly

    Yes yes yes… I love it…
    Now you will see what TMO can do. I have a lot of friends that left from TMO just because of iphone…

    • No offense but your friends are stupid to leave for a device.

      • CalicoKJ

        They may be “stupid”, but T-Mos own data shows a significant amount of “churn” or leaving is due to not having this device.

      • fbphilly

        I have been with T-Mobile since Voice Stream became T-Mobile. I know exactly what I am paying for. My brother was in a car accident and I had to use the phone so much while I was in hospital. TMO double the amount of minutes with no charge while my sister had to pay for each single minute she used over her plan with Verizon. This story happened back on 2006. Just because of this fact she switched 3 months after to TMO. I am always thankful of TMO for the way they tread costumers.

      • fbphilly

        I have been with T-Mobile since Voice Stream became T-Mobile. I know exactly what I am paying for. My brother was in a car accident and I had to use the phone so much while I was in hospital. TMO double the amount of minutes with no charge while my sister had to pay for each single minute she used over her plan with Verizon. This story happened back on 2006. Just because of this fact she switched 3 months after to TMO. I am always thankful of TMO for the way they tread costumers.

      • This one device is the single best-selling device on the market. It’s not unfathomable that people leave the carrier for it.

      • AndroidProfit

        LOLOL!! REALLY? WOW!

  • TYLERDERK

    Iam going to talk my customers into buying Android only

    • AndroidProfit

      That’s pretty sad when got have to CONVINCE people to go android

      • TYLERDERK

        NO it is a better system you can make the phone the way you want it you get more free apps you can change the battery you can expand memory you can do NFC transfers bigger screen great camera etc etcc

        • thepanttherlady

          And not everyone wants those features so why the need to “talk my customers into buying Android only?”

          The customer contributes to your paycheck. Why not educate them on the various OS’s and let THEM decide what works better for them? Not what works better for you.

        • Tylerderk

          Practice after me ,,baaa baaa

        • thepanttherlady

          That’s ok. I’ll let you continue to make an ass of yourself, by yourself. ;)

        • Eric

          Not everyone wants a bloated OS with lots of malware……. Didn’t you think of that before you posted this obstinate comment?

        • TYLERDERK

          Get the Nexus 4 Iphone will end up in the back shelf next to my last Blackberry

        • Eric

          Not everyone wants a bloated OS with lots of malware……. Didn’t you think of that before you posted this obstinate comment?

        • AndroidProfit

          I believe that YOUR EMPLOYER will expect your to DO YOUR JOB and not let your fear of an INANIAMTE OBJECT interfer with the JOB THEY ARE PAYING YOU FOR!

        • TYLERDERK

          I could sell the hind end off roadkill if that’s what the customer wants.

          Yet my personal opinion is that high end Android devices are Superior to both Windows and Apple products and if I had to choose between Windows or apple I would go new high end windows all day.

          But if the sheep want the Iphone the Iphone they shall have.

        • thepanttherlady

          But it isn’t about what you want, now is it?

        • Whitney

          will you stop calling them sheep?

      • Yup. The iPhone sells itself. People come into my store asking about it all the time. Can’t wait to see how much this will help T-Mo

    • CalicoKJ

      I would like to see you try to do said “convincing” to my daughter. She’s had an android for over 2 years now because she needs the features of a smartphone.She’s been an Apple fan since I can’t remember when. My SIL gave her an old 3GS last month and she’s in heaven. We were going to save up to get her an unlocked 4S, but now will wait until this shows up on shelves.

      Note I’m not arguing anything about the features and apps as I personally agree. However, there is a place for these phones and the users / money they bring back.

      • TYLERDERK

        If she had a high end Android comparable in price to the iphone then maybe her experience would have been different.

    • CalicoKJ

      I would like to see you try to do said “convincing” to my daughter. She’s had an android for over 2 years now because she needs the features of a smartphone.She’s been an Apple fan since I can’t remember when. My SIL gave her an old 3GS last month and she’s in heaven. We were going to save up to get her an unlocked 4S, but now will wait until this shows up on shelves.

      Note I’m not arguing anything about the features and apps as I personally agree. However, there is a place for these phones and the users / money they bring back.

    • bleeew

      Good luck with that.

    • Whitney

      It is not up to you what consumers do with their money. They have a right to decide what best for them not you. If the consumer whats an iphone then you better give them the iphone

  • Horrible! iCrap!

    • AndroidProfit

      That mean olé iphone!

  • kev2684

    not an apple fan but great for T-Mo! watch t-mo rise to the top!

  • BigMixxx

    oh man…The boat is turning, and turning faster day by day.

    Won’t see a number 1, but sprint is in deep, deep trouble.

  • OnlineRefugee

    Well, told you so :)

    DATE CAPTURED: 2012-11-29 12:34:52; UPDATED: 2012-11-29 12:34:52

    “Well this is finally going to happen because Steve Job’s shoe is now on the other foot, as the saying goes, it is Apple who is desperate… The iPhone will come to TMOUS, but not because TMOUS is finally willing to meet Apple’s terms. Nope, it is the other way around, Apple needs to bring as many carriers as it can into the Apple iPhone family.”

  • sidekicker89

    Hey David, after the investor conference can you post the full video and also the slides?? I missed some of it.. watched most of it on my phone in my car haha

  • dkbnyc

    Shat! There goes the neighborhood! There goes the great speeds I was getting in NYC. I despise all things APPLE.

  • AndroidProfit

    it will be nice to see the crybaby Android fanboys breakdown within this comment section. This will be comedy gold.

  • BigMixxx

    and….According to PC Mag via engadget

    ‘Update: PCMag’s Sascha Segan reports that T-Mobile CEO John Legere “is implying that the carrier will launch an as-yet-unannounced iPhone model.”‘

    • Addam

      oh no, i hope this isnt the down market iphone we’ve been hearing about. that would destroy me

      • thepanttherlady

        I don’t follow these products so I apologize in advance for this silly question. What is a “down market iPhone”?

        • Addam

          it means a repackaged and cheaper version of the iphone. Similar to what Samsung did with the GSIII Mini

        • thepanttherlady

          Gotcha. Thank you!

        • Guest911

          That isnt even a credible rumor. I wouldnt pay any attention to the cheaper phone theory.

  • Finally the rumors are true

  • Diego Vazquez

    But they just announced 100% move to Value Plans in 2013.

    • kev2684

      probably same pricing as the note 2 or slightly higher. $300 20/20 iPhone 5 on value at launch then $200 20/20 for the 4S. $100 20/20 for the 4.. the next iPhone will push all previous iPhones down a tier.
      like other carriers, don’t expect T-Mo to have free iPhone sales unlike with samsung phones.

  • Aurizen

    this is awesome! I wonder how soon we’ll see it.

  • OnlineRefugee

    The old saying “even a broken watch is correct twice daily” comes to mind.

    I hope the people who over the past years have been saying “the iPhone is coming to T-Mobile” are still around to claim some glory, finally.

    My favorite in 2009-10 when there was always someone who knew someone who worked in high places at TMOUS: “I know someone whose wife works for a T-Mobile big shot, and she said he said that he overheard while flying on a plane Apple and T-Mobile execs, sitting three rows back, near the engines. He could still hear them saying the iPhone was going to be at TMOUS, soon.”

  • TyRetr0

    It’s probably smart to get a phone now then sell it when the iPhone is released.. Especially If you like your current plan.

  • terryjohnson16

    AT&T just pissed in their pants. AT&T should be scared. No more GSM iphone monopoly.

    • Guest911

      With Tmo going to value only, ATT isnt worried. The move to Value just made them happy.

      • unknown

        You do realize that unlimited talk text and web on value is less than $100 a month on att it is over $100 idiot.

        • Guest911

          U are a moron. Stop talking to adults.

    • OnlineRefugee

      Actually, they may be a little concerned, but for about a year now Straight Talk prepaid has allowed users to bring any GSM iPhone they want to the service (even the 5). And with Straight Talk one pays $45 monthly (taxes included) for unlimited talk, text, and 4G data.

      And the killer to all this, Straight Talk is an MVNO carrier, so the subscriber is using AT&T’s towers for that $45 monthly.

      Yes, when T-Mobile gets the iPhone a Straight Talk subscriber can use that phone with Straight Talk the service too (as well as any T-Mobile phone). Same plan applies, $45 monthly for unlimited talk, text, 4G data.

      Note: if one pays three months in advance, Straight Talk goes down to $42 monthly, six months, down to $41.

      I’m still waiting for someone to provide an argument why it makes financial sense to go with AT&T or T-Mobile, when one can use the exact same phone and towers as they do, for $45 monthly. Some say “Well, I get a phone for $200, not $600.” OK, that sounds nice, except when I point out that if we look at that $400 difference as a “loan”, they are paying $950 annually in “interest” for it. (The $950 being the annual savings by going with Straight Talk instead of AT&T.)

      Sidenote: It is Straight Talk that is changing the way carriers do business in the U.S. The WSJ was right when Straight Talk debuted its BYOP program (Bring Your Own Phone). It said that Straight Talk would FORCE AT&T to abandon its practices.

      T-Mobile is wisely changing its business model. AT&T? I think they will go down fighting and picking the pockets of subscribers.

  • Diego Vazquez

    I just signed a new 2 year Classic Plan Contract LOL.

    • thepanttherlady

      Ouch. :)

  • romulus

    I’ve been reading this site since Sept. of ’08. This has to be David’s happiest post.

    • reptarjr

      I’m assuming he shed a tear when he heard the news.

  • jwblue

    Awful! iPhone is a fad only will decrease the bottom line. Why not differentiate themselves by offering the best Android phones will keeping costs down!. HORRIBLE!

    • Eric

      The “best” Android phones are upwards for $900, more than the iPhone 5.

  • Edward351

    I wouldn’t bet on an early release of these products. The timetable is 2013 which is fairly broad. It might be that we’ll see the iPhone when Tmo gets their LTE network up to coincide with the new high speed network.

  • BigMixxx

    putting two and two together (http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/06/t-mobile-value-plans/) Selling it at 199 (down). Meeting a LOT of requirements up front for apple and value plans in place.

    T mobile has a pretty good business model.

  • Addam

    Hopefully we’ll have a month or so exclusive on the 5S and as opposed to a GSIII MINI version of the iPhone. If we get a downmarket version, I’m out the door.

  • Maybe the world is going to end after all. Tin foil hats anyone? You are going to need it, apparently hell froze over. They will keep the CIA from hearing your thoughts and keep your head warm :D only $300 a piece can you really put a price on safety and piece of mind?

  • jwblue

    Horrible!. The iPhone is a fad, will hurt the bottom line, and increase rates for everyone.

    Awful!

    • A fad? Fads last six years do they? :-) Just kidding, but it’s definitely not a fad and I don’t see that at all, it’s great for the company! That’s what people are missing, the company, it’s not about what YOU want, but choices for everyone.

    • remister

      I’ve learned that consumers like stuff to work out of the box. Some others like to learn about their phones and how to customize about their phone. Different strokes for different folks. Android would not be where it should be without iOS.

  • Now how does this affect our chances of offering the next nexus? Hmm…

    • It shouldn’t, AT&T and Verizon have zero problems selling exclusive Android products alongside the iPhone.

      • I hope you are right

        • Sebastian

          its not that he is right or wrong, just look for yourself.

  • OnlineRefugee

    Now to see if the iPhone stems the post-paid exodus and lures new subscribers.

    And let’s see the terms. I assume TMOUS got a really great deal.

  • mreveryphone

    Key word here is products, it could be just a branded lightning connector.

    • unknown

      Don’t be stupid.

      • mreveryphone

        Don’t be a troll

  • jbhotnessmon

    wow the day i get a nexus this happens … just wow…. hell just froze over

  • Whitney

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSS I can move to the Value plans and get the iphone via EIP

  • Whitney

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSS I can move to the Value plans and get the iphone via EIP

  • Deadeye37

    Hmmmm…. I can see how this happened now that I see the new article about moving everyone to Value Plans.

    T-mobile won’t get its pockets raped by Apple because T-mobile won’t be subsidizing the phone unlike Sprint, ATT, & Verizon. So basically the customer can pay full price right there or have the payments broken out over 20 months as a part of their bill. This won’t affect the plan pricing either since its not subsidized.

    Now, they just better not touch my grandfathered plan….

  • sidekicker89

    Anyone know if we can watch the whole video again? is it online? Link please :)

  • GwapoAko

    Yes!!! Finally we can get 3G on our iPhones (4$) !!!

  • Whitney

    I am so happy that my contract is not up until June. Well patience is a virtue I guess. Now it time for some accessories shopping. Coach here I came.

    • thepanttherlady

      Looks like all that waiting paid off. :)

    • thepanttherlady

      Looks like all that waiting paid off. :)

  • Whitney

    I am so happy that my contract is not up until June. Well patience is a virtue I guess. Now it time for some accessories shopping. Coach here I came.

  • Tmobile had a competative adv. on their plans and pricing, that will gone with Apple. Also iPhones (and the idiots that use them) hog the network. You think you had bad signal before just ask AT&T and Verizon customers how thier service has suffered.

    • thepanttherlady

      Because only iPhone users hog the network? SMH

  • Whitney

    before anyone jumps for joys what are the details of the deal

  • Exile_One

    wharever

  • GS3

    Ahh that’s good news.. I hope tmobile stays the same though.. I love tmobile

  • taron19119

    Now can we get WiFi calling on iphone

    • Deadeye37

      With how closed the iPhone is and how controlling Apple is over their product, I highly doubt it.

  • taron19119

    Now can we get WiFi calling on iphone

  • OnlineRefugee

    Since “everyone and their mother’s uncle” has the iPhone, TMOUS should do something unique to set itself apart. Although I’m sure Apple controls this aspect of a deal, perhaps let people buy the phone on payments.

    That would make the news, “a new affordable way to get the iPhone you want.”

    • Get_at_Me

      that’s what the value plan (with equipment installment) allows

    • Get_at_Me

      that’s what the value plan (with equipment installment) allows

  • mingkee

    Even I am totally indifferent in this deal, it will attract some customers for sure.

  • ccnet005

    Dude! Where’s my bandwidth!

  • image29

    I just hope tmobile doesn’t have to pay a huge sum of money and doesn’t raise the price of service to cover it

  • CalicoKJ

    Those worried about data overload. I wonder how much of the subscriber base is already on a smartphone and utilizing said data…including those already on an iPhone on the network.

  • CalicoKJ

    Those worried about data overload. I wonder how much of the subscriber base is already on a smartphone and utilizing said data…including those already on an iPhone on the network.

  • niididdy

    This is GOOD!!!!

  • Dayvidpriddy

    Yah, it’s about modda fuggin time T-Mobile!!!

  • Noooooooooooooooooooo. 1 phone should NOT determine the outcome of an entire company when there’s hundreds available..WTF???????????????? *Points gun at own head and sips Vodka*

  • Noooooooooooooooooooo. 1 phone should NOT determine the outcome of an entire company when there’s hundreds available..WTF???????????????? *Points gun at own head and sips Vodka*

  • ghulamsameer

    YES!!!!

  • Atvar

    I will buy an iPhone on T-mobile when Apple stops suing the crap out of their competitors like a petulant child. Your move Apple.

    • Addam

      Wow, I’m sure Apple will note that in their quarterly report. Thanks for the exclusive.

    • What Apple does in the courtroom has nothing to do with you. Just enjoy their products or buy somethin else.

      • Trevnerdio

        Yeah, kind of shows that they’re a terrible company.

    • Addam

      You should expect a personal call from Tim Cook sometime this afternoon. Appl just dipped.

    • Trevnerdio

      That pisses me off, their sue-happiness

  • RON

    YAWN….

  • Enzowned

    Who are the idiots who do not understand how big a deal the iPhone is? It drives the smartphone market, so of course it’s a huge plus for Tmo. Secondly now that they’re dropping subsidized plans, I imagine it can’t hurt Tmo or Apple, so who is declaring the end of Tmo? Some people…

  • Its time for Apple to takeover T-Mobile. I’m lovin it

  • youngt82

    Thanks to the new CEO John Legere

  • SocalTeknique

    YES!!! I will finally use my upgrade and get the iPhone and sell it for $900+ to some idiot in eBay/Craigslist Haha.

  • Dakota

    So does that mean iphone 5s is coming to Tmobile next year? I wonder if theyll still offer the unlimited data? If they do that, and have a good strong advertising campaign (not resembling what they do now with Carly), this could be their chance to change the direction the company has been going

  • FINALLY! We have been waiting years for this!

    What makes it even better is that T-Mobile will be the only carrier offering it with a truly unlimited data plan with data speeds that are usable.

  • Marcos Hidalgo

    While I am not an apple person, this was long overdue for those who do subscribe to that. But network quality needs to improve a great deal and with this netwok quality is only going to get worse imo.

  • reptarjr

    Good news, but I feel like T-mobile users have been spoiled by Android devices to even consider the jump to the iPhone. But I guess having the option, plus the lower T-mobile rates is nice.

  • gg555

    I dread the arrival of the iPhone. Prepare yourselves for the network becoming sluggish and overloaded like AT&T.

    And prices are going to go up. Anyone who thinks otherwise, is fooling themselves. Maybe it won’t happen in the first six months to a year, but after that get out your wallets (I’m sure the T-Mobile execs are already rubbing their hands together in anticipation). The only reason prices have been so low is because T-Mobile has needed to find a way to attract customers, without the lure of the iPhone. Now that Apple’s cartel control over the major carriers will be complete, there will be no reason for real competition and prices will naturally go up (this is after all the purpose of cartels).

    T-Mobile without the iPhone was a beacon of competition and potential innovation. With the iPhone there is no reason to be any different from anyone else (technologically or in terms of price points).

    I think people are really missing the point (and failing to understand the underlying economics) if they think this is a good day for T-Mobile or the future of cell phone service in the U.S. The fact that no major carrier can survive without selling their soul to one particular producer of shiny objects is not a sign of a healthy industry with real choices and competition.

    • bleeew

      Nope. This will bring in more customers.
      More customers means more revenue
      More revenue means better service.
      AT&T stayed afloat because the iPhone. Look at the coverage for 2007, and now. It has expanded, and became more of a premium.

      • gg555

        Yeah, you’re really wrong and missing the point.

        1) AT&T’s coverage may have improved, but their network is notorious for being bogged down by the iPhone. iPhone users on average use far more bandwidth than other smartphone users. This is why AT&T doesn’t even offer a higher plan now than 5GB of data. But in any case, it was a huge ongoing PR nightmare for AT&T that the iPhone bogged down their network so much and they’re still scrambling to try to keep up with bandwidth demand. So it’s beyond me how you can deny this negative effect that everyone knows about and has been all over the news for years.

        2) I didn’t deny that the iPhone would generate more revenue and more customers. If you actually read my post and understand it, I just said that the overall effect on the network will be negative, for the reasons I explain above. Indeed, coverage can increase and bandwidth use can simultaneously increase faster, creating a worse overall experience, as has been the case for AT&T.

        3) You totally ignore my argument that in the long run T-Mobile will use this as a pretext to raise rates. Rates have been low, because T-Mobile had to find a way to compete without the iPhone. Now they don’t. Rates will go up. Competitive innovation will slacken. T-Mobile is in this to make money, not to be nice people.

        4) The deals that Apple forces carriers to accept to carry the iPhone (required numbers of phones sold, draconian revenue sharing) are so onerous that they effectively turn Apple into a sort of cartel, able to dictate pricing models to the carriers, rather than the other way around (or rather dictate conditions which leave the carriers no other choice but to be forced into certain levels of pricing). Again, when one company has so much control and power over all the carriers, you quash competition. Prices, as a matter of basic economics, go up in these kind of situations without an improvement in services (because without real competition, there is no need to improve services to demand higher prices). In effect, even Android users will be subsidizing Apple.

        6) It is also well known that on average in the U.S. we pay about twice as much money for the same level of cell phone service as most other countries in the world. This is not just because of Apple. It’s because of the lack of real competition in the U.S. in general. But the situation with Apple and it’s enormous ever growing anti-competitive influence only compounds the problem.

        7) But I realize that people don’t really understand these things and just think that wherever the Jesus Phone goes miracles happen.

        8) Let’s check back a six months to a year after the iPhone hits T-Mobile and see how “great”‘ things are.

        • Joseph M.

          You’re overreacting. T-Mobile, like Verizon, is pretty good at managing their network. They’ll be fine. Your service will be fine. Relax and enjoy your freedom of choice.

        • Jarrod

          Verizon isn’t good, their LTE network has sank like a rock their max speeds are nearly what I get on my iPhone on tmobiles single carrier HSPA network.

        • gg555

          I’d say rather what’s happening is that you and others who celebrate the arrival of the iPhone are looking at things through rose colored (Apple deluded) glasses.

          First of all, what freedom of choice? The freedom to buy a phone that I already can get on every other carrier and could buy unlocked and use on T-Mobile anyway, if I wanted to? How is T-Mobile becoming more like the other carriers a demonstration of having choices? Homogeneity is the opposite of choice.

          Secondly, Verizon has a massive network with way more bandwidth than anyone else. T-Mobile’s network is in no way comparable to Verizon’s network. AT&T on the other hand does not have as big a network as Verizon, though much larger than T-Mobile, and AT&T has been completely overwhelmed by the data traffic generated by the iPhone since it’s original release. This is the number one complaint about AT&T, the amount of data congestion. So it is not an overreaction to think that T-Mobile’s much smaller network is not going to be able to handle a huge influx of iPhone data hogs. It is a rosely unrealistic silly underreaction not to be concerned about this.

          Also, Verizon has far fewer iPhones activated on its network than AT&T. So Verizon is also not a good comparison for this reason as well. If T-Mobile gets the level of interest in the iPhone that AT&T has (which may be more likely since both are GSM carriers and Apple is generally more friendly to GSM carriers) then there is no question that T-Mobile’s lesser network will perform even more poorly in the face of the data demand that AT&T already can’t handle.

          There is no way this is a good situation for non-iPhone users. People who think otherwise just have overly simplistic views of the economics and technological realities of the situation.

          I realize I’m a lone voice making this point. But again, let’s just check back six months or a year after the iPhone’s arrival on T-Mobile and see how the network is going and what plan prices are looking like.

  • khha4113

    On other news, T-Mobile plans not “subsidizing” phones anymore. It means you have to buy your Iphone at full price (currently $649 for Iphone 5). According to Slashgear.

    • Whitney

      They have EIP which allows pay off the phone over 20 month period

  • TayshaunBoba

    I’m sorry, but for those complaining about iPhone bogging down the network and citing AT&T as an example, AT&T is the exception and not the rule. Look at Verizon. Their network hasn’t changed. As for Sprint, they DID take a hit but you have to remember they ignored their network for years and were preoccupied with Nextel. Meanwhile, TMO has been funneling billions into network upgrades over the years and has made fiber backhaul a very large priority. TMO’s strategy has always been be last and be the best (look at both their 3G and 4G rollouts as evidence).

    • bleeew

      True, Verizon’s was never affected. I’ve had the same speeds the whole time before VZW iPhone.

      • Jarrod

        Verizon was affected but that’s because they don’t do enough maintenance and having the towers over subscribed. Sprint had a poor network to begin with and AT&T didn’t take 3G seriously and underestimated what would happen once they actually got a sizeable subscriber base on 3G.

  • Christopher Rodriguez

    Hell has now frozen over. Poop.

  • Mimo Dakdouk

    Does this mean iPhone 5, or 4S/4?

    I’d personally rather have T-Mobile bring the Lumia 920, but I know that’s not really a possibility at the moment. Sigh… if I wasn’t signed to a contract I wouldn’t hesitate to leave T-Mobile and buy a 920 to use on Straight Talk or some other prepaid service. I love T-Mobile’s low prices and decent CS (much better than AT&T’s from what I’ve heard), but they’re smartphone line up doesn’t appeal to me.

  • Deylight

    Though I love my Android phone, it’s nice to know we’ll have a choice.

  • Mike

    Yawn!

  • Whitney

    I hope includes the ipad

  • bewitness

    Who cares, Did acquiring the iPhone significantly help Sprint? Did it cause customers to dump Verizon and AT&T to go to Sprint’s offering of an iPhone and lower rate plans? The truth is that it’s great for t-mobile to offer a very popular phone but the iPhone is about to hit a downward spiral. Too many people have a version of the iPhone. It’s no longer a status symbol to have one and the people that do have one are starting to see the restrictions that apple places on it’s crown jewel.

  • Joseph M.

    About darn time!

  • Deihmos

    Too bad the iPhone is now considered crap.

    • Not by the majority of people

  • IRIE4IPIER

    Great, here comes all the annoying iPhone commercials.

  • Curious

    What good is the iPhone on T-Mobile if it’s limited to the abysmal 2G Edge data rates?

    • Joseph M.

      It won’t be. As T-Mobile reworks their network for LTE, they’re moving 3G to the 1900 MHz PCS band, just what the iPhone needs for HSPA+ data. LTE is in the cards, too, once T-Mobile finally launches the new network.

  • chad

    To bad iphones suck

  • angry t-mo custard

    value plans can suck it……