(Update) T-Mobile Set To Launch UNcarrier “Phase 2” On June 23rd?


Update: Well what do you know, as soon as this post goes up, word comes down that “Phase 2” has been delayed till July 14th. Still no additional details available. 

There’s not a lot to go on here, but a number of sources have pinpointed June 23rd as the launch of T-Mobile’s UNcarrier “Phase 2” plan. In case you are wondering, we’re told there’s also a “Phase 3” though details are also unknown. One of the rumored services launching with Phase 2 will be a “new” rate plan that is postpaid, with no credit check. The rates will be the same as what’s now offered and are specifically geared toward customers who don’t want to have their credit run. I’m told there won’t be any EIP offered with this plan and customers will buy phones outright.

T-Mobile’s UNcarrier efforts will also be paired with the already discussed 15 additional markets launching with MetroPCS. Internally named “Apollo 15,” the launch of the more markets has already been confirmed by execs from both companies. With the launch of a new service that allows Metro customers to use certain Sprint, Verizon and GSM-based handsets paired with Metro’s already outstanding all-you-can-eat rate plan choices, the launch of more Metro markets can only bode well for T-Mobile.

I can only hope Phase 2 allows for super awesome things like a free trip to Mars with every family plan purchase, or something cool like that. Just kidding. Seriously, no trips to Mars will be rewarded with any purchase.


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  • JetJam

    They need better phone prices

  • Wyn6

    Yes. “We” just discussed this yesterday. Something is definitely on the horizon.

  • Whiskers

    They need unlimited tethering to go with what rate plan your on.
    If i pay for 10gb of data/month , you should be able to use all that data with tethering as well.

    • UMA_Fan

      All the uncarrier plans provide free tethering if you opt for a metered rate plan.

      So if you pay for the 10GB you tether all of that if you want to before you get throttled.

      You can even set it up so you have unlimited without throttle as far as what you do on your phone but add data packs for tethering.

      • Whiskers

        So your saying i can i get the unlimited data plan and tether unlimited until my laptop explodes.
        I don’t think so…..

        • UMA_Fan

          Everything is unlimited as far as what you do on your phone. No unlimited for when your phone is in tethering mode but you can choose the point where you get throttled at

        • Guest
        • just me

          Better check the reading comprehension skills there, champ. He didn’t say anything about uncapped tethering.

        • Whiskers

          I caught it after i posted , my fault.

        • kalel33

          There’s ways around T-mobile’s blocking of tethering. I run a VPN and had change the APN settings on my phone. T-mobile can’t packet sniff my data and stop it, nor can they stop it on the phone with their particular APN settings. If you don’t even want to do VPN, you can change the user agent on your computer, so T-mobile thinks you’re on a mobile browser.

  • h_f_m

    Mars bitches!

    • Paddy_Tanninger_Caddy_Manager

      skip Mars, been there done that, haven’t done Uranus yet!

      • JayMo86

        I miss Pluto… :(

  • Chris

    Phase 3 better be “Let’s upgrade all this Edge to HSPA+ and LTE!!!!!”

    • Baxter DeBerry

      and take the edge equipment and expand coverage.., they better start using that spectrum or they will loose it

      • RobotChupacabra

        Seriously. They need to cover every inch of territory they’re licensed in with HSPA+. They’re just not going to get real growth until they can improve coverage.

        • Baxter DeBerry

          you really think they could afford that?!?! ha!, thats another 10+ billion easy

        • RobotChupacabra

          Both Dish and SoftBank want in the US wireless game. One of em is buying Sprint. The other will throw money at T-Mobile, so yeah, they probably will have that money some time early 2014 when that eventual sale goes through.

        • Baxter DeBerry

          as that is true, and I wont argue with that.. 2017 if I’m correct is when they will loose what spectrum in states they haven’t used.. that’s not a lot of time at all and for T-Mobile it could be seriously bad.. they spent all that money back in what? 2007 (correct me if I’m wrong) and yet they’ve only covered the major areas and not in between even though they could cover the whole USA pretty much.. their financials got in the way of that we know.. but hoping for a 3 year build out will be extremely hard for them to accomplish.. only time will tell though

        • RobotChupacabra

          They acted quickly with MetroPCS spectrum and tower upgrades, so I’d hope they would act with the same speed on covering their rural area spectrum. Three years isn’t a lot, but on the bright side, T-Mobile will essentially cover the absolute vast majority of their current network with LTE in what (if they finish this year as they say) will be a total of 1.5 years. Rural areas won’t need as many cell sites, so three years is doable if any sale is finished in 2014.

      • samsavoy

        ew no that equipment is over a decade old.

    • Paddy_Tanninger_Caddy_Manager

      They’re skipping 4GLTE and going straight to 10G baby!!!

  • taron19119

    I can’t wait I hope the two upgrades a year program is a part of it

    • LC

      Two upgrades a year? What would make you think they would start something like that when they’ve made it so clear that they’re moving away from that business model.

  • Aurizen

    nice, for a minute I was thinking an upgrade on services… that might be phase 3.

    • Paddy_Tanninger_Caddy_Manager

      phase 3 is unknown right now. you should just go ahead and upgrade. unless it’s go skip 5G data speeds and they go straight to 10G!

  • RobotChupacabra

    Guessing that’s when they officially launch LTE in all the markets that have been popping up lately.

  • D Velasquez

    dammit, here i was already planning a trip to Ganymede!!

    • Paddy_Tanninger_Caddy_Manager

      you leaving on the same ship with Justin Bieber?

      • D Velasquez

        what does that brat have to do with t-mobile or me?

        • just me

          There was some story about him being interested in spending his money on space trips or something. Only connection I can think of. Obvious joke though, lighten up :p

        • Paddy_Tanninger_Caddy_Manager

          you were leaving on a spaceship, so is Bieber, i figured you guys could spaceship-pool together.

  • NYCTheBronx

    Is Metro PCS a CDMA carrier? Aren’t T-Mobile phones coming to T-Mobile? Will some Metro phones come to T-Mobile? I know Galaxy Nexus is a Verizon phone but that woupd be cool if it came to Tmobile since the Nexus 4 does not have 4G LTE. Thanks.

    • Zacamandapio

      -Yes, Metro PCS is CDMA
      -Yes, T-Mobile phones are coming to T-mobile
      -No, Metro phones aren’t going to T-mobile (it’s the other way around).
      -Galaxy Nexus on VZ was terrible. You could still use the GSM version of Galaxy Nexus on T-mobile if that’s what you really want.

      • 21stNow

        I think that NYCTheBronx wants LTE service on his/her Nexus device. From the horrible things I have heard about the VZW Galaxy Nexus, I hope that NYC reconsiders this.

      • NYCTheBronx

        I made a few mistakes on my post. I meant to say that T-Mobile phones are coming to Metro. I was just wondering if there would be a Galaxy Nexus coming to T-Mobile with LTE but there isn’t. Now that Google isn’t going to release a 4G LTE Nexus 4 or Nexus 5, I might as well get a Google Edition S IV. Thanks.

    • Dakota

      i dont think a verizon lte phone will work on tmobile, and the gsm galaxy nexus was only hspa+21

  • I-Troll-U

    Why even have pre paid if the new post paid are the same freaking thing?

    • jsteve2122

      Because pre-paid you don’t have to show id or social security card.But you also don’t get At&t data roaming or features like visual voice mail. On the old monthly 4g plans current pre-paid plans that is the difference plus you have to buy phones outright full price. No down payments and monthly installments options like with simple choice plans that is why. On a side note I understand t-mobile wants people on the simple choice plan but ever since they launched those plans they took down the monthly 4g store that was on their website and they don’t even promote pre-paid, which is stupid.
      The day after they launched simple choice plans they had a link for pre-paid then the next day they took that down. Pre-paid and monthly 4g carried this company for the last few years and for t-mobile to not even have a pre-paid link on the main website is kind of dumb. When I go to the main website and I go on plans I can’t find it. Only way I find it is by typing in the main website /prepaid and then it comes up. People that don’t get on blog sites that don’t know to do that won’t even know t-mobile has pre-paid plans besides the new simple choice. I mean the walmart/online 5gb 4gspeeds plan for $30 is popular but like I said if new customers can’t find it then they will never know and t-mobile will miss out on potential customers. Like I said again I am not saying t-mobile needs to heavily promote their few truly pre-paid / ex monthly 4g plans all I am saying is at least put a pre-paid link under plans so people can find them.

      • liefy

        T-mobile is going to one plan and you can pay for a higher amount of high speed web. The basic is prepaid $50 and unlimited everything.

        • Dakota

          do you still pay all those extra fees on the new plans that contract plans always have. Prepaid plans – including Tmobile ones – never had those – you only paid a couple bux in tax.

        • Turo

          Yes, still subject to all regulatory fees, taxes, etc. That’s what makes prepaid nice, that you don’t have to take into account anything but sales tax and even that can be knocked off if you refill online at some sites. Downside, prepaid is pushed to the back of the line in terms of coverage and network priority.

  • VG

    Uh-Oh! Official LTE coverage of 100 million POPS probably pushed to mid-July. Looks like T-Mo may have missed original “end of first half 2013” deadline.

    • RobotChupacabra

      Indeed. Then again, apparently markets not originally listed on the May/June rollout were popping up with LTE, so maybe they’ll launch with more markets.

      • VG

        I’m keeping my fingers crossed!

  • downhiller

    Maybe phase 2 or 3 will make where I dont have to 400$ to migrate!

    • Really!

      why complain about it when u got discounts on phones in first place!!!!!!

      • kalel33

        What if they just changed their plan, which caused the issue?

        • tyler

          Contract dates/rate plan changes do not effect upgrade tenure.. Would not result in a migration fee. ONLY discounted handsets cause migration fees

        • kalel33

          They must have changed that policy, because a year ago they based it on the contract date, not the date of the last upgrade.

  • TmoEmpBoston

    no credit family plans and something about data passes…no further details, got an email about it a couple weeks ago..

  • JointhePredacons

    4G LTE in NYC is awesome !! So fast !

  • TmoEmpBoston

    No credit family plans and something about data passes..thats all we got in our email about it for now..

  • NoNaMe

    No Mars? If it was Virgin, Brandon would be offering a trip to outer space…

  • JeffC.

    I want a few key things: remove carrier branding from high-end smartphones, a frequent upgrade program, don’t force/make high-end phones exclusive (Nokia L925 – If AT&T wants it, let them have it.), and advance the spectrum.

  • Asael Delgado

    It would be awesome if we could add 10 lines into a single family plan. Something like, after the 5th line it will be $20-30 a month for each additional line. That would send the market spinning and have Verizon and AT&T doing something similar

    • Asael Delgado

      This came out wrong lol you guys get what I am getting at that T-Mobile can allow lines up to 10 lines with unlimited data

  • tmorep

    Had training on this a couple weeks back. Pretty much as others have stated, it’s a no credit check plan that requires a deposit, and data passes. Only thing I don’t like about the data passes is they are non refundable. So if you don’t use it, or you can’t get service you are SOL

    • guest

      TMOrep – you are confusing two different things. You could benefit by reviewing training material and understanding differences.

      • tmorep

        Why don’t you review the knowledgent based training and you will clearly see what I mentioned is correct!

  • Dakota

    I thought if you paid the phone out right you never needed a credit check anyway. Why would yoU? You own your phone. They need a better ad campaign. Can someone tell me with the new Simple Plans, since theyre not officially contract plans, do you still have to pay all the contract plan fees? Im currently on a prepaid plan so only pay 1.40 extra per month but remember old contract plan – even before data – used to add 20% to the bill

    • VG

      Simple Choice plans are still “postpaid” plans and are subject to the normal taxes and fees associated with traditional contract plans. They still need to run a credit check for these Simple Choice plans since they are providing service and billing you afterwards.

      • noc007

        To add: If your phone is paid out completely, you can cancel at any time. If you’re making payments, which are interest free, they’re going to want the phone paid off. The key thing is they’re upfront with the cost of the phone and don’t pull any funny math when you cancel; something I think they need to work on marketing better.

        VZW is a good example of the funny math. Comparing the full price with subsidized price plus the ETF shows the cost of the phone is not always consistent.

    • fsured

      They are also loaning you the money to buy your phone and you are paying them back in the monthly payments. They still need to be sure the customer is the type of person who is trust worthy enough to pay their bills. It also shows T-Mobile if you owe money to other cell companies which shows the person as unreliable paying phone bills. This is why some customers pay the advertised $99* down with the “*” referencing a higher down payment may be required.

  • Impatient Waiter

    Hopefully phase 2 is some sort of incentive to paying off your EIP early. I know it (most likely) won’t be a discount on the actual device, but maybe a discount on your bill or even an accessory? I know I’m already spoiled being able to pay off my device whenever I want and be able to upgrade to a new one that same day :p

    • Paddy_Tanninger_Caddy_Manager

      great idea. The faster ppl can pay off their phones, the sooner they can buy new phones. Increase turnover, something a waiter knows about!

    • noc007

      IIRC the CEO said they were planning a trade up program that was better than what’s on the market today.

      T-Mobile definitely has my attention these days. I’m planning on ditching VZW here soon.

  • Alex Zapata

    I’ve got it: T-Mobile is getting their own version of Joyn!

  • rob

    I hope Phase 3 will be an LTE Advanced rollout! VZW already said they plan to launch LTE A. before years end and AT&T isn’t trying to get left behind them either since I don’t think the guys at DT remembered these guys have the $$ launch it by or soon after Magentas planned time frame. And TMO said they were going to be the first carrier to launch it…. idc if it’s only Vegas and maybe one or two other lucky markets as long as they get to add another “TMO First” to their achievement list and MARKET THE SH*T out of it! Only time and maybe a lil info leak will tell.

    • noc007

      The LTE equipment they’re deploying is is LTE-A ready and supposedly will only need a firmware upgrade. Unlike some of their competitors, they can deploy LTE-A much much faster.

      • Baxter DeBerry

        Agreed, its LTE-A compatible, it can do it when they choose.. prob after MetroPCS is shut down they will start doing it.. or wait till at least some devices have LTE-A, this will give them the edge over AT&T for sure..

    • RobotChupacabra

      Well the LTE cell sites are all LTE Release 10. All they need is a software update pushed out to them to be “upgraded” to LTE Advanced. Hardware is already there. At this point, not a lot of stuff out there to take advantage of it, so it’s kind of pointless. I’d guess LTE Advanced software update to cell sites will go out with the 4×2 deployment (see: article on this site about 4×2).

  • Verizonthunder

    T-Mobile I hope your phase 3 plan will be upgrading all edge tower’s to LTE. You are doing a good job with LTE tower upgrade’s why stop at big city’s or main suburban area’s.

  • Mark Long

    I have never had my credit ran and I buy all my devices outright upfront. So that feature isn’t at all new. At least with Tmo you get a cheaper rate plan if you buy outright. The other big three do not offer that so it would be self defeating to buy a phone outright from one of them.

    • StarMenace

      Only new, first time customers get their credit run. Every carrier does it with postpaid lines.

  • Mr. Hill

    Wonder if Phase 3 will be a timetable for when T-Mo will start attacking the Edge areas. Plans are great, iPhone in the lineup, and LTE is coming along at an impressive rate. Edge along interstates is the last major issue to resolve.

    • Chris G

      I could not agree more with that. I travel on I-94 between Detroit and Chicago and most of the road in between is EDGE and GPRS, no excuse to have GPRS or EDGE even in this day and age. AT&T has this whole trip covered with 3G, for a while now, no excuses.

    • RobotChupacabra

      This a thousand times over. We all keep saying (and this site had a great editorial about it): cover all your licensed service areas with at least HSPA 21. The year is 2013 and T-Mobile still has areas of EDGE only. They can’t make a serious push to grow as a company until they can honestly assure potential customers that any time they are in an area where T-Mobile provides service they will receive good service.

    • Bill Berry

      Wherever AT&T has a tower T-Mobile needs to be able to roam on it. I”m sick to death of waiting for T-Mobile to resurrect towers where AT&T has HSPA+ now!

  • jbhotnessmon

    so they are going to take the prepaid plans and call them postpaid what is phase 3 sell more phones

  • Jay J. Blanco

    I use to get horrible 4G reception in my apartment until I went into my mobile network and switch my Galaxy to WCDMA mode. Now I get great 4G reception. I just did this in a 2G only area and got 1mbps download and .7mbps upload not bad lol

    • Halid

      Interesting. Is that roaming off another network?

      • Jay J. Blanco

        I guess it all depends on how far away you are from a 4g tower

  • N1Ro

    I want to see, Unbranded phones, without the T-Mobile Logo printed on the device. They can put crapware in there, but give your customers the ability to uninstall/deactivate them, finally make the carrier’s amazing Internet Calling option available over the App Stores for all unlocked Windows Phone, Android and iOS.

    Follow the above and T-Mobile’s uncarrier change will be complete by 99.9% I’ll say.

    • Richard

      well if you want to see that go to mexico haha i was there last month and my family members from over there some had telcel others had movistar. They had different phones from galaxy s3 to htc,sony and one had motorola . They let me borrow there phones FIRST thinG I noticed was no carrier logo none of there phones had a telcel or movistar logo at all . Iwent tru the menu on there phones there no such thing as telcel navigator or telcel tv like tmobile has here aka tmobile tv or how verizon and att phones here have verizon navigator att navigator etc.. i tought it was a telcel Mexico thing only but i saw movistar Mexico is the same thing as telcel no bloatware on there phones no carrier logos all over the phone. .i wish att,verizon,tmobile,sprint did that here in tge US.

    • noc007

      If it bugs you that much, you can get a case, replace the battery cover, or get an unlocked international version. Some of the branding on VZW phones have been much worse lately.

  • Ordeith

    Hopefully this isn’t what is holding the Lumia 925 back.

  • jonathan3579

    So did T-Mobile ever give more details on the water-proof phone? (Xperia Z) Seems like they dropped the ball on that.

    • thepanttherlady

      Nope, and after saying multiple times on their FB page to “stay tuned”, they just stopped responding and completely ignored everyone asking about it. I take that back, they did refer us to watch the T-Mobile news release page for more information. *not happy*

      • jonathan3579

        I thought as much. They were very specific with their “more information tomorrow” so I was holding them to it. The only thing that bothers me more than general vague timeframes would be specific ones that are missed and subsequently ignored when asked about. (Telling people to watch their news page is not adequate communication.)

  • About time, the EIP should be optional anyways, do away with the credit and contacts and keep attracting new customers. Question, is it typical to receive poor data speeds during the upgrade process. Here in central Ohio I’ve had blazing fast CONSISTENT data always 10mbps or higher usually low twenties high teens. About a week and a half ago, my data has dropped like sprint dropped .08mbps slow. A few other users have similar speeds is it because LTE is getting modified

  • Bill Berry

    If it were my call to make it would be for T-Mobile to be “uncarrier” in every way. If I opt to buy my phone outright from the get go I want it subsidy carrier unlocked and bootloader unlocked. I want this crap about phone exclusivity to stop. I want phone makers to make all their devices at least pentaband. I think that about covers it!

    • Baxter DeBerry

      T-Mobile has no pull in the phone makers.. AT&T and Verizon do.., why do you think their hasn’t been a penta?, Apple is the only one that can do as it wishes.., although we are lucky we can bring AT&T phones to T-Mobile

  • Bill Berry

    I forgot…one more thing: tethering! I think how I choose to use my data allotment is my choice; to be made to pay an extra fee is BS and carriers know it.

  • Free tethering with no caps.

  • Jay J. Blanco

    Delayed :-(