T-Mobile reveals iPhone X, iPhone 8, and Apple Watch Series 3 pricing

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Hours following the debut of Apple’s new iPhone X, iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, and Apple Watch Series 3, T-Mobile has revealed its pricing for the new Apple hardware.

For a limited time, T-Mobile will sell the 64GB iPhone 8 for $0 down and 24 monthly payments of $29.17. The iPhone 8 Plus will start at $79.99 down and $30 per month for 24 months for the 64GB model, while the 64GB iPhone X will set you back $279.99 down and $30 per month for 24 months.

Here’s the full breakdown on T-Mobile pricing for Apple’s new wares:

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Keep in mind that for a limited time, customers can trade in an iPhone 6 or newer and get up to $300 off (via 24 monthly bill credits) a new iPhone when purchased on EIP. That deal applies to the iPhone X, iPhone 8, and iPhone 8 Plus, and you can take advantage of that offer during the pre-order period.

Here’s T-Mobile’s JUMP! On Demand pricing for the iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus (no iPhone X JOD pricing is available yet):

iPhone 8

  • 64GB: $0 down and $29 per month
  • 256GB: $219.99 down and $23 per month

iPhone 8 Plus

  • 64GB: $0 down and $33 per month
  • 256GB: $279.99 down and $24 per month

Finally, folks interested in the cellular-enabled Apple Watch Series 3 should know that Apple is offering 3 months of free service with Digits when you buy the wearable. Customers will pay $10 per month with AutoPay for unlimited talk, text, and data with Digits when that 3-month period ends.

The iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, and Apple Watch Series 3 will be available for pre-order starting September 15th and they’ll launch on September 22nd. The iPhone X will be available for pre-order starting October 27th and will launch on November 3rd.

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  • brian haynes

    I was thinking about getting the x 256 but the down payment might be just too high. Might want to lower it and got with a 3 year payoff plan

    • john

      payday loan has a deal, get $1200 loan for iphone X for $10 a month for 10 years! Not so bad since you get the iphone x for zero and just $10 a month

  • AllHailPresidentCheetoJesus

    So for the watch with cellular, am I reading right that it’ll be only $10 a month for that line? Or am I missing something? Looking at new Series 3 watches for myself and sig other but am not sure how much the additional lines will cost on the account…

    • tax refund

      $16.67 for the watch + $10 for data = $26.67 per month. It is like paying for another iPhone!!

    • JStatt

      The line itself will cost $10 a month (with autopay) after you get the first 90 days for free. You don’t have to buy the watch on an EIP.

      • AllHailPresidentCheetoJesus

        Out. Freaking. Standing… Thanks!!!!

  • Jesus Rosales

    300 for trade in!!! Last year they offered 650 or something like that.

    • Locust Gee

      Where’s the time machine Haysus?

    • OZ

      Last year I traded in an iPhone 6 16 GB and got a new iPhone 7 for free after bill credits.

  • ict2aus

    I don’t understand the payment structure for the iPhone X if you are a Jump customer – and looks like the iPhone Upgrade Program through Apple is much better. I’ll be using the 256GB option for comparison.

    T-Mobile (Jump) – 429.99 Down Payment + $30 EIP(12 Months) + $12 Jump(12 Months) = $933.99 + Taxes

    Apple Upgrade Program – $56.16 Monthly Payment = 673.92 + Taxes

    I realize that the Apple program does not include lost/stolen so the program may not be for everyone.

    Is my math right? Or am I over looking something?

    • AnthonyReyes

      Nevermind thought the upgrade program was something else. T-mobile jump is to help someone who owns a phone to jump early. The Apple program is more to JoD which is a lease

      • ict2aus

        Not that I’m aware of. I believe it works in the same fashion and you can upgrade every 12 months.

  • noecuhh

    Sound like $15, $10 with autopay. Eh I’ll stick to my series 2.

  • KingCobra

    Looks like T-Mobile is pulling back this time. Only $300 for trading in your 7 plus? They offered the full $650 last year.

    • Jesus Rosales

      That is what I said I rather keep my Iphone 7 Plus it is not worth $300

    • pdoobs

      I figured that promo wouldn’t be back but I was really hoping for a prepaid visa instead of these absurd credits that always seem to be an issue.

      • tax refund

        I sent in 3 iphones for “free” upgrade to 7 last year and they lost one and they said one of them had cracked screen. All three were in pristine condition. I am now out hundreds of dollars because I got lured in for “free upgrade”.

        • JStatt

          I traded in 6 phones and only one of them had an issue (they claimed there was water damage). I called and they ended up giving me the full $400 credit as a one time payment on the device. So I ended up better than if they had just accepted it normal. I’m not saying you are lying but that definitely did not happen for me.

  • pdoobs

    Just yesterday a trade in plan for the 7 was available for the 5 and newer for a $300 prepaid Visa card. I don’t think I can handle another T-Mobile program where they screw up the credits for months and rely on me to make sure I get all 24 monthly credits…

    • Jesus Rosales

      Thats so true. I called every month until they just payed it in full.

      • Acdc1a

        That’s what I had to do with my 2 tablets. To spend 20 minutes plus on the phone every month for $20 was not worth my time or my effort though. Eventually I wrote to the executive office and said to fix it or I’d port out. They paid off both.

  • STARK11

    I’m not even gonna use my jump 1 on this. I’ll just open another EIP. A forth is the charm. ( I’m a few months away from paying off the other 3 )

    I love that tmobile let’s you have multiple eips on 1 line. Maybe they just let me cause I’ve been with them for 12 years

    • steadymobb

      Yeah I don’t understand why they let you do that but oh well I like it lol. They’re still making the money

      • JStatt

        Why wouldn’t they let him do it when he’s still making payments on the other 3?

        • steadymobb

          That’s why I said they’re getting their $$. It’s just such a strange concept for someone to be buying and paying off multiple phones on one line

      • STARK11

        Yeah either way they are getting paid lol.. Its good for me because I give the 2 phones to family members who use it on tmobile pre paid plans.

  • pdoobs

    So I can buy a 128gb iphone SE or I can put a down payment on a 256gb X, that escalated quickly…

  • lomsha

    Damn, 280 down

  • UGADawginVA

    Who in God’s name will pay 1,100 for a phone???????
    Ridiculous.
    Not buying an 8 unless they give the 650 trade in for my 7.
    I will just wait for the V30…

    • Iphart

      That is I want V30

    • JStatt

      “Not buying an 8 unless they give the 650 trade in for my 7”

      Why don’t you just say not buying an 8 unless I get free stuff, since that’s obviously what you meant.

      • Haze1nut

        More like “not buying an 8 UNTIL i get free stuff”, since that’s obviously inevitable. Every other iphone has had a bogo deal in the past, this one wont be an exception. Hell AT&T already started it off by offering BOGO on it. Tmobile is not just going to just stand by and let that pass. 2 phones for $1k sounds a lot more reasonable than just one …

    • Ryan

      Millions of people will pay for this phone. Apple’s fanbase would pay for this regardless of what features or upgrades it had, but this phone is obviously a pretty decent jump up from the 7, so it will sell very well.

      • Acdc1a

        I wish it wasn’t the case but you’re right. With all of the great options in the $200 – $300 range I can’t believe people shell out a grand for a phone.

        • Ryan

          Well there is definitely a difference between the low-end phones and flagships in terms of speed alone, not to mention the features. But yes, I wish it wasn’t the case either. The market determines the price, and as long as people continue to be okay with the increase in prices, the trend will continue.

        • duscrom

          I have different Wants and needs than a $300 phone can provide. It’s the device I use more than anything, so For me it’s worth it.

        • Acdc1a

          Please advise me on what those wants and needs are. Truthfully an E4 Plus for $200 would suit most users.

      • duscrom

        I always hate this idea that the only people who would buy this are blind fanboys.

        I am far from a fanboy to any tech company. I just like Technology. Apple, Google, Samsung, LG. As long as it’s good tech from a usage standpoint, I love it. I don’t care about stats and numbers, as we’ve reached points where that stuff doesn’t matter. How is day to day usage. How is it for what I use it for. That’s all i care about.

        • Ryan

          You misunderstood me if that’s how you took my comment. I didn’t say fanboys are the only people will buy this. I did however imply that Apple’s fanbase is a very loyal one, and that same fanbase would buy this phone even with lesser upgrades. Don’t get me wrong though, it’s a very nice phone that will have plenty of sales and even create Android converts. I have the 7 Plus now, but I thought it was a lackluster event and not enough to get me to get it. I’m waiting for Google’s next move on Oct. 4th.

    • AllHailPresidentCheetoJesus

      I can’t wait to order two iPhone X 256GB models… So… They’re two sales right there…

  • Richard Darrington

    But do they have the new bands for the spectrum???????

    • UGADawginVA

      No.

    • AJ2

      No.. Bgr.com has an article about how Tmobile got f*cked

    • HeatFan786

      Nope, neither does the Note 8. If you want B71 and 600 MHz, gotta go LG V30. I don’t need that, so I am going Note 8!

  • Chapimex

    Apple is sneaky. The iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus should have had the same features and specs as the iPhone X with the redesign for the same price ($699 & $799) and left it at that. Instead, they release and iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 plus with minimal upgrades, and then the iPhone X for $1k. They sure know how to take our money.

    • Tony Chen

      apple has the courage to charge $999 for iphone x

  • hey lets raise the price so ppl will think that they are getting a top of the line product.

    Apple is the worst phone and company. I mean it’s a great product for anyone below the age of 18.

    Adults should have more options in hardware and software. $1k for a phone that has so much restrictions LMFAO

    • Bud

      what a dumb a$$

    • JStatt

      You people are becoming a parody of yourselves. You say the same exact thing every year. The Note 8 also costs nearly $1k (I did notice you left the “has so much restrictions” caveat) but I’m sure you let that one slide. You aren’t influencing anyone with your comment. People buy what they like best and for most people who can afford it the IPhones works best.

      • skywalkr2

        and people also said the same of the Note.

        • Bud

          it makes sense on the note 8. why would you pay a $1000 for a phone that has the same software in a cheaper option. only apple make ios. everyone else uses android nothing special about the note, buy miu

        • duscrom

          What do you mean? Samsung artificially restricts things in software just to justify the higher price tag.

          I think that’s the thing I find the most funny. All this Apple hate, and Samsung is the one who I feel, gives less of a crap about me as a user of their products.

          I got the GS8. So because I didn’t wait a few more months, and spend $300 more, I don’t get the feature that lets me pair apps for the Edge swipe. My Gear S3, despite having most of the same hardware, isn’t going to get Bixby Voice. It’s only been a year. But No, Samsung has decided if I want this new software feature, I need to get a new device, even if my current device can run it. Oh, and I’m really pissed at this one.

          Netflix will only support HDR on the Note 8, not the GS8 and GS8 plus. Because Samsung lied to us and told us that it supported HDR, but they Don’t support HDR10. Just this generic “Premium Mobile HDR” BS Samsung came up with for a bullet point on a box.

      • IThoughtAsAChild

        The irony of your comment.

      • I don’t say the same thing every year. I give a rats ass about the Samsung Note. I personally believe ppl have too much of a phone. Whats the point of having the Note if you barely use the S-Pen. Whats the point of spending 1K for a locked phone lmfao. At least android gives you the option to download third party apps without having to root the device.

        My comment was not ever intended to influence anyone. My comment is my perspective on the article. Also, ppl buy whats trendy. I see women complain about the iphone so much but don’t want to switch phones lol. are you still reading this… if so sedate yourself.

        • Bud

          i can download any app i want, without jailbreak. just because you dont know how to do it.

    • duscrom

      Due to my job, I use both a high end Android, and a High end iPhone. Currently, i’m running a Galaxy S8, and an iPhone 7 Plus. Outside of Downloading Emulators, and Changing the order of my home screen icons… What restrictions? I mean.. I guess there is not being able to use NFC for pairing BT stuff, but Apple has a better Bluetooth stack, so even if I have to pair manually, the process is as smooth as NFC pairing.

      Let see… I suppose there is also.. I guess… Tethering.. That’s easier on Android.

      That said. in the end, if you’re for the using a different launcher, and changing default applications, I don’t know why you’d get an iPhone anyway. As stated above, You have choice. your own choice. No body is forcing you to get an iPhone.

      • Didn’t say anyone is forcing me to get a phone. Can you download apps that not in the store and run it without jail break.. Can you download videos from the web by long pressing the video in the browser. I mean apple products are over priced and behind in the technical features that it provides in its products. Did they put touchscreen on their laptops and desktops yet? If so, when?

  • Deihmos

    I was hoping for a full price trade in like they did last year. Oh well I guess I will stick with the 6S Plus. Didn’t see anything special today.

    • AJ2

      Wait till black Friday. There might be better deals

  • Melissa Cardenas

    1000 bucks for a phone that doesn’t even support the new LTE band we have been waiting for so long . Hmm NOT !!! I rather get the LG v30 which supports it .

    • Deihmos

      I can’t see myself ever returning to using android.

      • SVem26

        Come to the dark side.. We have cake..

        • Jerry Attric

          And Oreos

      • JStatt

        I actually did go back to Android. It was fun in the first month, albeit occasionally frustrating as any ecosystem change is going to be. However, it’s hard to explain but Apple’s integration is so well done and so smooth (even over unfettered Android) that I found myself wanting to go back. In my opinion and I can back this up with my own personal experience, Apple simply does it better than android. Especially on the basics like iMessage.

        • Ryan

          iMessage ruined messaging in my opinion. No one wants to be a green text anymore.

        • Acdc1a

          My preference is stock Android over any other platform. Compared to a touchWiz device though I’d absolutely be an iOS guy.

        • duscrom

          Same. My iPhone screen broke and I didn’t feel like fixing it. so I used it as a work phone, and use my GS8 as my main device for over a month, paired with a Gear S3… and… I couldn’t wait to get back to my iPhone/Apple Watch combo. Android isn’t a bad OS, by any stretch. And there was a lot of things i appreciated about it. But the random insane slowdowns and lag, the Notification system that kept bothering me about certain emails I had already dismissed. and so much other stuff, just.. made the experience.. less than ideal compared to the iPhone.

          Like.. I appreciate the freedom and customizability that android can provide.. But The lack of polish just made the every day use wear on me.

    • Jay

      Does Samsung Galaxy S8 support it

      • kev2684

        No. The only flagship that have it on board at the moment is the LG V30

        • Acdc1a

          And soon we’ll have many flagship and entry-level phones that include it. I can’t see paying $1,000 for a phone that isn’t fully capable. People made similar arguments here about band 12 not being needed, but T-Mobile was way ahead of schedule on deployment which left iPhone 6 and 6 Plus users with obsolete equipment in short order.

      • noh1bvisas

        no, which means 600mhz isn’t “mainstream” enough to include it.

    • JStatt

      Are you talking about the 600mhz spectrum band? Unless you’re in the very small area that supports it right now it wouldn’t really improve the signal performance at all. Apple is always about six months to a year behind on the latest LTE band support because of the quantity they have to sell and how early they have order them for the massive supply chain. Also, the fight with Qualcomm isn’t going to make it any faster. Either way It’s going to be end of 2018 at the earliest before the 600mhz spectrum is making a meaningful impact and more like 2019 before it is widespread. By then you’ll probably upgrade to the iPhone 9/whatever is after that.

      • Jason Caprio

        Exactly. According to the 600Mhz timeline, it will not be fully deployed until well into 2020. In phone terms, that’s 3 iPhones from now lol

        • Acdc1a

          Fully deployed? It will be deployed in enough areas at the end of 2017 that you’d have to be a complete moron to fork over $1,000 for an iPhone X or Note 8.

        • Jason Caprio

          In 2017 before phase one starts, 600MHz is planned to be in parts of Montana, Wyoming, Maine, Oklahoma, Texas and other very rural areas most T-Mobile users wouldn’t dream of going to. Phase one which includes more mostly rural areas won’t be complete until November 2018, which is when the next iPhone will be released.

          The impact won’t mean much especially when you have people who upgrade their phone once a year, if not two years. Apple would definitely be stupid not to include Band 71 support for next year’s model.

        • Acdc1a

          Band 12 was cleared over a year ahead of schedule. Whether it’s in Apple’s best interest or not to include band 71 support in this model or the next, it’s not in the best interest of a consumer to drop $1,000 on a phone that doesn’t support it.

        • Jason Caprio

          I see where you’re coming from. Being so expensive, you’d think they would think ahead. I do notice that Apple tends to lag behind adding support for technologies like LTE bands on the iPhone. T-Mobile had to purposefully wait to announce their “Extended Range LTE” until the iPhone 6S came out when phones a year or so before that already supported Band 12, even cheap phones like the Samsung Galaxy Avant.

          Luckily all phones support Band 5. When Verizon shuts off it’s legacy CDMA network for good at the end of 2019, it will refarm it’s nationwide CDMA 850MHz to Band 5 LTE. I suppose that may be why they sat out of the 600Mhz auction.

  • Johnnola504

    I have always purchased iPhones in the past all cash. If I do he eip, do you have to purchase their insurance for the duration of the payments? Also, how much will they give me for an iPhone 6+ 64gb in near perfect shape?

    • Jeremy Turnley

      No, insurance is not required (you are stuck with the payments if you break it), and the early news says that iPhone 6 or later trades will get you up to $300 off.

      • Johnnola504

        Some say $300 for the iPhone 6+ ( the verge) and some say up to 300?

        • Jeremy Turnley

          It will be “up to” to account for phones that are in poor condition. Most people will get the full $300.

        • Deihmos

          You can sell and get more.

  • stannikola

    Can apple watch be payed off faster than the 24 months, I mean if apple comes out with a new watch in the mean time I don’t want to be stuck with the payments

    • Koolme666

      Anything on EIP can be paid off whenever you want, hope that helps your question

      • stannikola

        yea, thanks for the response

    • pbolton70

      I also believe if you want to pay it off early you cant just pay like 10 extra one month. You have to pay the full balance when you want to payoff early

      • Johanna Natalie Drisdale

        You’re wrong. You can make EIP payments whenever you want to. Directly towards any device or accessory.

        • pbolton70

          Thanks…they must have recently changed it. I know you can prepay JOD payments. But last month I spoke to 3 reps and they all said I couldn’t pay an extra 100.00 bucks on my Gear S3 which is EIP.

  • Joe2050

    If iPhone X also included Touch ID with Face ID together I would have gotten it. Face ID alone and swiping up is more inconvenient then just pushing a button. Just my 2 cents. iPhone 8 Plus for me.

    • Andrew

      That doesn’t make sense. Both of them take one action after you raise the phone.

      • kev2684

        With Touch ID you could unlock your phone on the table without raising it to your face.

        • JStatt

          You don’t have to raise it to your face. You can tap the phone to wake it and then it scans your face from an angle to unlock it (you can also enter your passcode). Unless you’re viewing the phone from an obscure angle where it can’t get your line of sight to confirm, which is unlikely if you are looking at it, then it works well.

        • William

          I don’t get what’s the big deal. I have used tructed face aka face recognition, fingerprint reader, LG knock etc.. The most effective and efficient is the fingerprint scanner. Now the LG knock feature it is just plain cool and awesome.

  • Paul Garrison

    Steve Jobs is rolling over in his grave.

    • Panzer

      You mean he’s rolling over in his Apple patented revolutionary post-mortem wifi enabled eternal spacial container.

  • skywalkr2

    Jump on demand pricing for the X is going to be scary.

  • taxandspend

    The down payment is more than lots of very good phones cost.

    • Jason

      Typical ridiculous Apple ‘premium’ pricing. I think all of us expected nothing less, so yeah….

      • duscrom

        Galaxy Note 8 64 GB $930 ($210 Down) + 200 GB micro SD card $78 (https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-200GB-Memory-SDSDQUAN-200G-G4A/dp/B00V62XBQQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1505336826&sr=8-1&keywords=200+gb+micro+sd+card)
        $1,008.00

        256 GB iPhone X $1149

        So, about a price difference of $141.

        That’s a pretty sizable premium in comparison. And feature wise, it’s much more Subjective on which phone has “better” technology.

        I have no opinion either way on these devices, TBH. At least from a Value proposition. Just.. at this point, if you want the top end of what the market has, you’re gonna have to pay for it. Otherwise, if you feel you can get a phone that meets all your needs at $400-$500, like the OP5, then. Don’t get this phone. Get the one that does what you need and want. Apple nor T-Mo Force you to pay these prices.

  • Kyle

    If you want upgrade via Jump on Demand, is the pre-order on 10/25 done through T-mobile or Apple? Do you have to do it in store or can it be done online?

    • (J²)

      Jump on Demand cannot be processed online. Only in store or by phone.

  • john

    T-Mobile just got burned by Apple and the iPhone X
    Apple announced the iPhone X, iPhone 8, and iPhone 8 Plus today. They’re all great phones in many ways, but they have one fatal flaw for T-Mobile and its customers: No support for T-Mobile’s new LTE network.

    Right now, T-Mobile is in the early stages of rolling out a brand-new 600MHz network nationwide. The first sites are already online, and T-Mobile is expecting to cover a million square miles by the end of 2017. But the 600MHz network uses a brand-new LTE channel, Band 71, and very few devices support it yet. Sadly for T-Mobile, you can’t add the iPhone 8 or iPhone X to that list.
    The specs page for the iPhone X confirms that it supports all the usual North American LTE bands, but not Band 71. However you frame this, it’s a blow for T-Mobile. The iPhone X is widely expected to spark an upgrade “super-cycle” that will see people on the iPhone 6 and 6S spring for the upgrade, since they’re buying a phone that they expect to last for years. That phone — expected to last for at least two years — won’t be compatible with the LTE band that T-Mobile is expecting to be the backbone of its network going forwards.

    Compatibility with 600MHz will become a big deal for T-Mobile customers, assuming you like actually using your phone when you’re out and about. Lower frequencies travel further and penetrate buildings better, which all adds up to superior coverage, especially inside buildings or in rural areas. Verizon has relied heavily on its 700MHz spectrum for years, and it’s a big part of the reason it keeps winning coverage awards. T-Mobile’s 600MHz network promises to be just as good or better, but you can only take advantage of it if your phone is compatible. 600MHz compatibility is only going to get more important as time goes on. T-Mobile is planning on having 600MHz coverage over 1,000,000 square miles by the end of this year, and by the end of 2018, it will play a big part in its national coverage — unless you have an iPhone X.

    There’s no doubt in my mind that T-Mobile wanted the iPhone X to support Band 71. CTO Neville Ray told me last month that T-Mobile is putting “as much, if not more effort into devices than the network” — and that’s a big statement, because T-Mobile is working hard on rolling out 600MHz. But T-Mobile only secured the 600MHz licenses in an auction early this year, which likely wasn’t enough lead time to build band 71 into the iPhone X’s modem.

    But whichever way you cut it, this isn’t great news for T-Mobile. It’s going into 2018 with just one flagship phone with B71 support, and that’s the LG V30, which is the most niche phone that I’d consider a common flagship. The Galaxy S9 will almost definitely have B71 support, but we’ll be waiting until next year for an Apple phone that includes it. Worse, anyone who buys an iPhone right now and wants to switch in six months won’t have the benefit of T-Mobile’s full LTE network. That’s not going to do much for T-Mobile’s PR campaign to have the best network.

    In short: if you’re buying an iPhone 8 or iPhone X, you probably shouldn’t go with T-Mobile. If you do, I’d go for a lease, rather than buying the phone on an instalment plan. That way, when the iPhone X2 shows up next year, you’ll be able to jump ship

    • Michael Grant

      That’s poor logic. A million quare miles is only 1/4 of the united states. By this time next year Apple will likely include T-Mobile’s new frequency band into their devices. T-Mobile will do whatever it takes to garner Apple’s cooperation in this matter because it would be bad business to eliminate one of the most popular brands from a major cellular carrier. It would be irrational for T-mobile to assume inclusion of a brand new frequency band under such short notice and they probably planned for this. If they can only cover a million square miles by the end of this year, it’s safe to assume that they will not have their entire network completely upgraded by the end of 2018. Perhaps they will come close but by then the majority of popular devices will likely contain the new frequency band. If T-Mobile were to look at this as a “Burn” from Apple they can’t have very intelligent leaders or advisors. Since they are a successful business this is unlikely to be the case. And finally, as for not buying a new iPhone on installment as a plan to “Jump Ship”, there is always the option to include Jump! in your plan so that this time next year you can simply trade in and upgrade. The “Jump! On Demand” lease has “Burned” me far greater than you can logically conclude T-Mobile has been burned by Apple. Better to pay for ownership of a device than to “Rent” one for the full cost of a device and not own it without paying a significant amount more.

      • Joseph Cathey

        I agree that “burned” is a strong position, but people tend to hold onto devices for 2-3 years. T-Mobile is going to be focusing expansion heavily into their Band 71 holdings meaning that anyone on current LTE won’t be seeing any or minimal improvements for the next few years. When that is the status quo, it is hard to convince a customer that a brand new $1k+ device is going magically to solve their problems.

        I was working in T-Mobile’s tech support when they first started rolling out Band12. It was tough explaining to people that “yes, you did just buy a $900 phone, but it can’t see all our signal.” … “Then why did you sell it to me!?” and they were rightly angry. There were countless cases where there was perfectly good signal to be had, but their recently purchased device wasn’t capable of using it. Imagine you just bought a brand new top of the line TV, 4k, 10 bit HDR, smallest bezels ever made… the whole bit… you’re drooling, you’re body is ready… you’re… wait where do you plug the external speakers in. You head back to the store and they confirm your fears. Worse still, it’s been more than two weeks and you’re stuck with it. THAT’s how these customer’s feel

        • Michael Grant

          I would say that problem is solved by informing oneself as a customer. Relying on information from the mass majority of today’s retail sales consultants is foolish. Most either don’t know enough, or simply bend the truth to “Sell”. I worked as a manager in a major commercial retailer and I can tell you that the genuine salesperson comes few and far between. Most lose their soul too early on succumbing to the pressure to “Make A Sale” and maintain their job security.
          What you say is not incorrect, but I didn’t just go out and buy my 4k HDR TV at the first store I found a sale. I did my research and found the best quality for the price I could afford. Same goes for my phones. I buy a phone that I want because of what the device is and does. I have switched carriers in the past because they didn’t offer the phone I desired.
          A customer should be their own advocate and educate themselves about the purchases they make. It is “Their Money” after all.

    • Jason

      Its not a blow caused by Tmobile. Apple is too stupid to put in antenna updates quickly like everybody else seems to be able to. Thats what happens when you stretch yourself out to areas you dont know about like basebands. You have a lag in development times. They should have bought it from Qualcomm. And btw its not a ‘blow’ to just Tmo. Its everybody who bought spectrum at the 600 mhz auction. And thats a lot of companies. Regardless itll be there next year. And your entire contention that 600 is required for a decent tmo lte experience is complete and utter horsesh-. Every single of one us on tmo today have non 600 lte and we are all just fine. Its just additional spectrum and the brand new coverage part of it is only for brand new service in limited rural areas. The rest is infill. Go peddle your cr-p somewhere else

      • mavricxx

        Apple is just slow man. Look at what was delivered on the new iPhone just now: wireless charging, IP67, gestures and more. Stuff that’s been out for years even before Android and they’re just now implementing it.

        • David483

          Well, IP67 doesn’t have anything to do with Android and you’re conveniently ignoring what Apple rolls out first, as well as the fact that Android-based phones like Samsung often roll out things just to be first. Facial recognition is a good example – it is a sufficient security device to rely on for unlocking the phone or payments on the Samsung devices, or the way other phones used fingerprint scanners unreliably and/or were very slow before Apple. Apple Pay is probably the best example though – where were NFC payments before Apple? The feature was available for years prior to Apple, with with little to no adoption. Apple built the entire Apple Pay network and engaged merchants and payment processing networks and financial institutions to support it and support it as a card-present transaction for the lower exchange rate. Now, all of a sudden, NFC is everywhere.

        • duscrom

          BTW, IP68 was on Last years’s iPhone.

          And as many people point out in the industry, Apple isn’t slow, they tend to wait for tech to mature (Not saying they do that well either, ie. removing the headphone jack (Which they weren’t even the first to do)). Samsung devices are full of growing pains as they implement stuff for the sake of being first, and hardly thought out. Samsung phones are so often full of great ideas poorly executed (Bixby, Retina Unlock, S-Voice, half the weird features nobody uses on the GS devices. Hell, I love VR, and pretty much over Gear VR. I can’t wait to trade my GS8 in for a V30).

          But either way, the point is, Apple is hardly “Slow” for the uptake of B71. As mentioned earlier, The Note 8, coming out Friday doesn’t even support it. And considering the kind of Numbers Apple has to do to keep the iPhones in stock, The iPhone 8/8Plus/X were probably hardware finalized months ago.

      • David483

        Who is supporting Band 71? Did Apple list the boat here? I’m looking at the latest Samsung Note 8 specs (and we know that if there is any, any at all bleeding edge technology, Samsung will throw it into a phone) and I don’t see Band 71 anywhere…

      • You’re a dipshit; Apple has no control over what bands the modem chip supports – Because Apple doesn’t manufacture it. the “ANTENNA” (which is just a copper wire) has nothing to do with what bands are supported by the modem chip either.

        • Jason

          So your entire response to the many points I made are: Apple buys their modem? LOL Hahaha I really dont particularly care if they make it, buy it, or grow it out of a clay pot, the bottom line is they are deficient and they lag in the modems they put in each year because it isnt their area of expertise. So yeah, if theyre outsourcing, go get on the phone and tell them to outsource to a better modem chipset maker. For $1000 and a ridiculous premium price, its the least we can expect

    • Jason Caprio

      I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. People need to stop getting all worked up about lack of Band 71 support when it isn’t going to be fully rolled out for 3 WHOLE YEARS. Within the next year it’s going to be in like 6 remote places where most city dwelling T-Mobile users will never go.

    • Haze1nut

      Did you really just copy/paste an entire BGR “article” on here?…. really?.. BGR? The least credible of tech blogsites….

      • Iphart

        You said it BGR is the National Enquirer of tech.

        • pda96

          BGR is the master of “click baits”. Their writers always use controversial headlines designed to exploit the animosity between Android and iOS users. You can read their articles and get a laugh or two. But don’t post any comments because that’s how they make their $$.

    • Johnnola504

      That issue doesn’t bother me. I live in South Louisiana and am fortunate to have great service around the state, even in the country. There are one or two spots in the city where theirs is a weak or nonexistent signal, but they are rare. Have used the phone in Florida, DC, San Francisco, rarely an issue. I would like to have access to the new band, but can’t say it would improve my overall experience.

    • Glenn Gore

      While lack of support for 600 Mhz is not good, that million square miles of new coverage is over very sparsely populated areas of the country where it is easiest to get that spectrum in use, and quickly, because there are no interfering TV stations, and also, hardly any population exists. Next year, more populated areas will begin to be covered, and the next model iPhone will have this capability built in. We have to remember that these phones are designed years in advance and chip design and fabrication were done probably before T-Mobile even purchased the 600 MHz spectrum, and were begun being manufactured months ago. I seriously doubt that Apple received any advanced notice that T-Mobile would try, and be successful, at buying that spectrum. There will be phones from other manufacturers that were designed and manufactured after the spectrum sale and roll-out began that customers can use in the meantime.

    • noh1bvisas

      you guys and your 600mhz. lol. it’s only in wyoming, now, and will only be in 10 rural areas in the coming years. smh.

  • HeatFan786

    T-Mobile isn’t saying details on the iPhone trade in deal yet. Up to $300 for a phone could mean 6 or newer for $300 or $300 for 7, $200 for 6, $200 for SE?

    • Steve

      I asked about a Verizon 6s and they said up to $118. @tmobilehelp on twitter was the way I asked.

      • HeatFan786

        Damn that’s not good. I’ll pass on the iPhone for the Note 8 anyways.

        • Iphart

          Note 8 is more advanced.

      • askep3

        It’s funny cuz for the 7 last year you could get $400 for the 5s

    • You should never Trade in your phone with a carrier; they rip you off.. Sell it online for twice what T-mobile offers.

      • DM725

        Definitely not twice but they definitely make a lot of money.

  • David483

    So, I have Jump and almost a completely paid off iPhone 7 Plus on the EIP program. How can I determine what I get for the iPhone 7 Plus and have to pay for a deposit on the iPhone X?

    • Andrew Singleton

      call 611 or visit a store

  • msohail

    AT&T .. just announced buy one get one free iPhone 8 offer .. any chance T-Mobile is going to offer a similar deal?

    • Jesus Rosales

      If they offer that promo it’s only going to be for new tmobile one plan and when you add a new line.

      • noh1bvisas

        they might let existing customers do it, but the new line will be required.

    • DM725

      It’s for people that are on Direct TV and U-Verse nonsense

  • Ty Christensen

    My wife has the 6s 64GB and hasn’t had any problems and there’s no real reason to upgrade, I was thinking of getting her the next iPhone and giving her 6s to my daughter to replace her iPhone SE and then sell the SE 64GB but don’t think the 8 is really worth it maybe if she wants the 8 plus which has dual camera, 3GB RAM, water resistant and wireless charging which are things that the 6s doesn’t have etc but the one to get seems to be the X but it’s just so much money, she’s on the original JOD and this month is the 18th month so we can buy it outright for $180 or trade it in.

    • Iphart

      Buy it for $180. it should be good for at least another year and half, if not longer.
      You will lower you monthly bill too.
      JOD= Endless monthly payments on top of your regular bill!

    • askep3

      Just to clarify you have the original Jump! Plan not JOD. JOD is the one where you lease the device not finance it

      • Ty Christensen

        Sorry, she has the original JOD where you can trade in the device up to 3 times a year and don’t have to pay off 1/2 of the amount of the device first. So yeah it’s where you lease it and buy after 18 months.

        • askep3

          Oh right, my bad I was confised

  • Joe2050

    On the iPhone X, based on how Apple Pay works the user will now have to double click the right hand button, raise the phone for Face ID authenticate, then move the phone to the NFC terminal to pay? Correct me if that is not the process. If so, this is even more inconvenient, compared to just putting the phone on the NFC terminal and pressing a button.

    • Except for many people, Touch ID doesn’t always work. I can’t use it for five months out of a year because of dry hands – the sensor won’t read my print. This might be a hair more inconvenient, but it is safer and will always work.

  • Sharti24

    Any word about 4×4 mimo or 256 qam?

  • noh1bvisas

    can an iphone get me 146mb download in my living room? the note 8 can.

    • Victor Boutte’

      download speeds are determined by your isp, not your phone -_-

      • noh1bvisas

        yes, and no. different phones support different bands/speeds.

      • noh1bvisas

        yes and no. different phone support different bands and have different modems.

  • dcmtnbkr

    This pisses me off. So the s8+ is an upgraded version of an s8, but the iPhone 8+ is not just an upgraded iPhone 8? F that.

    • Sharti24

      Wait what?

      • dcmtnbkr

        TMobile charged a down payment for jod on the s8+

    • Victor Boutte’

      this isn’t true. I still had to put down $100 for the s8+

  • NardVa

    I got to give it up to Apple. They got the public convinced they need phones that cost $700 to $1000. Most people talk, text, email, web browse, take pics and play games on their phone. You can do all that on a phone for a lot less.

    • AnthonyReyes

      Why I turned in my iPhone 7+ for T-Mobile Revvl. Wasn’t doing much with it

  • pbolton70

    Wonder what iPhone X JOD price will be?

  • pbolton70

    Yes but wont really come into play in more markets till next year and the year after. Apple will probably support 71 next year.

  • superg05

    OH YEAH PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT
    IF YOU THINK YOUR IPHONE IS GOING TO HAVE FAST CHARGING OUT OF THE BOX
    WRONG YOU HAVE TO BUY IT SEPARATELY BECAUSE YOU LET APPLE MILK YOU THEY WON’T EVEN GIVE YOU NEW CHARGERS

    • gr8gatzby

      sweet.