Samsung officially ends production of Galaxy Note 7

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It’s official: Samsung’s Galaxy Note 7 is done.

Samsung announced today that it’s stopping sales and production of the Galaxy Note 7 following a week that including several reports of “safe” replacement models catching fire. “Taking our customer’s safety as our highest priority, we have decided to halt sales and production of the Galaxy Note 7,” Samsung explained.

If you’ve got a Galaxy Note 7, you can return it to a T-Mobile store for a full refund which can then be applied toward the purchase of any device in T-Mo’s inventory. T-Mobile will waive any restocking charges, and customers that pre-ordered their Note 7 can keep their free gift. Additionally, customers who bought the Note 7 on or before September 2 (when the original recall was announced) will get a $25 bill credit.

The Galaxy Note 7 is a great-looking, high-end phone, and so it’s disappointing to see it being discontinued less than two months after its launch. This is probably the right move for Samsung to make, though, following multiple reports of replacement Note 7s catching fire.

If you’ve got a Galaxy Note 7 that you’ll be turning in soon, which phone are you thinking about moving to?

Source: WSJ

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  • Nick

    My wife is moving from the Note to the iPhone because of this.

    • Mike

      Good for her

    • KingCobra

      Smart woman

    • Paul

      Hopefully she likes the iPhone. Not my phone of choice, and I won’t be getting one anytime soon, but a very good device none the less.

  • bizzygeek

    PixelXL

    • Mike

      Overpriced with no expandable memory makes it a iPhone clone. I don’t wanna be out and put on point for having a iPhone knockoff

      • noh1bvisas

        except it’s uglier than the iphone and will never have the “snob appeal” of an iphone. the pixel looks like a cheap copy of an older iphone with a useless slab of glass glued on back of it.

        • Mike

          Extactly I wouldn’t buy it if it was free

        • Drewski

          Screw that, I’m not into Samsung phones anyways. Samsung phones smell like butt. I’d rather a Google Pixel phone or perhaps the brand new LG V20, any HTC,Alcatel, ZTE or Coolpad phone, for that matter Bro. If I want something that is going to act like Apple, I’d rather just get an iPhone verses having to get cheesy Samsung phones Bro.

      • bizzygeek

        Why do I need expandable memory? I stream my music from Google Play with no data usage against my Simple Choice thanks to T-Mo’s Music Freedom. Pixel comes with free unlimited full resolution photo back-ups so I never have to keep a ton of photos on the device. I don’t really run a ton of games anymore but if I did, I’d drop the extra $100 for the 128GB model. This may come as a shock to you, but there are a ton of people who don’t need an SD card on their phones.

        Based on the hardware included, I’d say the Pixels are about $100 over what they should be. No big deal. Google has always discounted every new phone by $100+ by Black Friday. I see no reason to think the Pixels won’t get knocked down a bit by year-end. You guys who think this phone should be $350 with a Snapdragon 821, 4 gigs of RAM, with a high end camera sensor and display are freaking crazy. Is Pixel perfect? No. For what they’re charging I’d love to see qi charging and IP68 or at least IP67 rating included. Furthermore the Verizon carrier exclusive was a mistake. I would have loved to be able to stay on JOD and get this phone, but oh well. I’m not going to wait on an LG V20 because I don’t think it will be supported and updated past one year. I also am skeptical of the software expericence.

        The Note 7 had a ton of extra hardware on it, and I’ll miss some of the features, but you know what? Samsung’s software experience sucks. It’s really bad. I’ve lived with it for a few months and while there are a few clever and useful additions to Android backed into Crapwiz, they’re far outweighed by how poorly Samsung’s software can make cutting edge hardware perform. My year-old Nexus 6P runs circles around my Note 7 when it comes to speed and fluidity just navigating menus. It just feels like a faster phone, when of course it should not. Also the Pixel will keep getting updates in a timely fashion for at least two years. The question for me is whether the upgraded camera and the Pixel exclusive software features are reason enough to upgrade from the 6P.

        • Rob

          I wouldn’t even consider the 821 as any better than the 820. They dropped the 2.4GHz/2GHz clocks to the same 2.2GHz/1.6GHz clocks the 820 has. Not sure about the boosted GPU clocks but yeah, it’s basically an HTC 10 with an AMOLED screen, no expandable storage, and it doesn’t even have 4×4 MIMO either. Just an over-priced cut down HTC 10 disguised as an iPhone.

        • Mike

          You wrote three paragraphs really? The Pbottom line is the Pixel is an iPhone clone that’s priced the same as a iPhone.

        • bizzygeek

          I disagree about iPhone clone, but whatever. Pixel’s about the best option on the horizon right now. I’ll probably never spend another dime with Samsung. I hope their mobile division takes 20 years to recover from this nonsense.

        • Mike

          You’re an idiot to wish another Phone manufacturer who is a major player in android os success to never recover . Go get a iPhone and enjoy iOS already and not the ugly iPhone knockoff called Pixel

        • bizzygeek

          You’re an idiot to assume that Samsung’s strength is good for the ecosystem. It may have been at one point but it has not been for a while now. You also wrongly assume that Samsung’s loss will benefit only Apple.

        • Rob

          I have the same wish for Samsung to fail. It’s quickly becoming Samsung and Apple. Nobody else can compete. Samsung needs to be knocked down a few pegs so we can get some actual competition and innovation going again.

        • Mike

          Samsung has nothing to do with other phone manufacturers innovations fool. If other manufacturers can’t make a phone consumers want then it’s their fault.

        • Drewski

          Screw that crap Bro. I’m on your side with this situation here. I’m not into Samsung phones anyways. Samsung phones smell like butt. I’d rather a Google Pixel phone or perhaps the brand new LG V20, any HTC,Alcatel, ZTE or Coolpad phone, for that matter Bro. If I want something that is going to act like Apple, I’d rather just get an iPhone verses having to get cheesy Samsung phones Bro.

    • Paul

      AND not available yet.

  • TheRealKingSen

    The note 5 is $729 for a year old phone

    • SEBA

      Lol, yeap I sold mine for $300 and bogo S7 for 500. Waiting for note 8

    • JayBEE

      and a downgrade from the Note 4.

      • Rob

        Other than the loss of the removable battery and SD expansion, not really. The Exynos 7420 is quite a bit faster than the Snapdragon 805. It took me about half an hour to decide to get the Note 5 when I was using Jump from my Nexus 6 and I just ultimately couldn’t justify going from one Snapdragon 805 to another Snapdragon 805 so I went with the Note 5. It was alright but the downside of the Exynos was no development for it so I got the HTC 10.

        • JayBEE

          “Other than…” *chuckle* By the way, you also left out Infrared transmitter.

        • n910

          Note5 is definitive downgrade from note4 (for any pro user). yes, note5 processor is faster a bit, plus has 4gb ram vs 3gb, but that’s pretty much it. Lack of microSD support and removable battery is a huge deficiency. Any phone with fast charging capabilities needs a new battery after 1-1.5year of moderate use for optimal performance. And i’m not talking about lack of IR-blaster, UV-sensor, additional microphone – just to name a few hardware omissions on note5. Even software-wise note4 is superior (as example superior one-handed operation of any phone out there, even note7). i own both devices from day 1, so trust me, it takes way more than 30 minutes to discover the real potential of note 4…

    • JayMo86

      Certified preowned is only $499…if thats ur thing…

  • Bobby

    iphone7 is not an option for any android enthusiast.
    no expandable memory on pixels = bad.
    i am going to for the LGV20.

  • Coolgeek

    Has there been any date published on how long we have to exchange it? I purchased one after they went back on sale and was wondering if I’m able to hold on to it until the new LG is released.

    • noh1bvisas

      no date published. i understand your problem. there is simply no inventory of any flagships right now.
      .
      if it were me, i would use my old phone. not sure if that is an option for you right now. maybe get a cheapo from walmart or somewhere in the meantime?

    • Paul Sousa

      Doesn’t T-Mo give 14 days for a full refund on phones? Could pick something up and exchange it on day 13, then repeat until the V20 is out?

      • Coolgeek

        That’s probably what I’ll end up doing, depending on what restocking fees are at nowadays.

      • thepanttherlady

        I am pretty sure the exchange period is 14 days total from date of original purchase. It is not extended each time you exchange a device.

        • Rob

          This is a special exception though. I mean they’re even waiving the restocking fees. Considering that the V20 will likely be over 800 bucks, I think they would probably extend their return policy since this was all Samsung’s mess.

        • thepanttherlady

          Extending the exchange period for Samsung Note 7 owners is one thing. Exchanging the Note 7 for another phone then expecting T-Mobile to extend the exchange period to move to a 3rd phone (non-Note 7) is completely different.

        • Rob

          Well if T-Mobile is smart they’ll have a window through the end of October to return the Note 7. Lots of customers won’t be happy with anything but the V20 if they’re coming from the Note 7.

        • thepanttherlady

          I think you’ve misunderstood what the OP was suggesting as well as my response. My response was specifically to this comment:

          Paul Sousa 1 hour ago
          Doesn’t T-Mo give 14 days for a full refund on phones? Could pick something up and exchange it on day 13, then repeat until the V20 is out?

          Again, I am pretty sure T-Mobile doesn’t allow you to exchange a phone then on day 13 allow you to get something else thus extending the initial exchange window.

        • Rob

          For what it’s worth, T-Mobile did indeed extend my return window when I exchanged an S4 for an HTC One. That was obviously a few years back though so I don’t know what the policy is now but it used to be no more than two exchanges and a restocking fee each time but since it wiped out the original purchase, the 14 day window did indeed start over.

  • Elliott Wilson

    I’m sorry I’m keeping mines I haven’t had any problems what so ever I’m also not a social media hog as well lol I don’t live in my phone like most of the world

    • noh1bvisas

      they will probably send a ‘brick code’ soon, so you’ll be forced to get rid of it.

      • Rob

        Yeah that’s not legal. They will probably push an OTA that gives you a warning about the danger of the device and some PIN or fingerprint signature relieving Samsung of any liability should you choose to keep the device.

        • noh1bvisas

          not legal? it’s in the fine print. you don’t own the software, just the hardware.

        • Rob

          Correct. Bricking the hardware would be breaking the device. If you bought a car and took it in for service and it had a recall and you couldn’t leave it overnight or however long it would take to repair it, they couldn’t do anything except warn you about the consequences. They can’t disable your car. Samsung can not brick the hardware. They can implement things like pulling back the battery capacity and disabling rapid charging but an outright brick would be illegal.

        • noh1bvisas

          they CAN brick the software. you only have a license.

        • Rob

          Bricking the software would brick the hardware. It has the same net effect. Samsung would get sued and they would lose.

        • noh1bvisas

          funny how that works, isn’t it. i haven’t seen the contract. i doubt you have, either. i would bet money they can do it.

        • Rob

          Legality aside, Samsung has enough bad PR to recover from as it is. You really think they want to make that worse by bricking the rest of the devices out there? There are many situations where customers around different places of the world don’t have refunds as an option. If Samsung triggers a brick on all the Note 7s in the wild, there will be a huge uproar. I doubt Samsung is going to go through that trouble when they could remove all liability on their part by pushing a software update that requires a digital signature via fingerprint and/or PIN telling owners to keep the device at their own risk and that continuing to use the device is not advised and their electronic signature waives any liability of any kind against Samsung. That would make a lot more sense.

        • recallorfail

          A forced recall wouldn’t let them just allow users to sign a liability waver and let then dumb dumbs keep using them. They most certainly can restrict functionality of the phone and demand the user return the device for a refund. I hope they start blocking IMEI’a until they are all returned.

        • Rob

          There is no law that says anything about any consumer having to comply with a recall. If Samsung tries to force compliance, they will end up in court over it. If a consumer decides it is worth the risk, that is their prerogative.

        • recallforrecall

          I’m sure a court case for bricking a device would have a much better outcome than for a suit for damages caused by a faulty phone. What would a judge do? Force them to refund the customer in full? That’s what they are doing anyways.

      • Elliott Wilson

        Well when the time comes cool ill happily wait it’s funny this isn’t the only phone that has had this problem apple has had the same problem as well and I’m not a iPhone guy

        • KingCobra

          Let’s be real, no company has had this problem on this level. The past reports of iPhones overheating and such involved user error or third party chargers, etc. Apparently these things can explode even when powered down and off the charger. If this happened to Apple then it would’ve been a WAY bigger story than it is right now with Samsung.

        • noh1bvisas

          yes, there has been 4 incidents, recently.

    • Stephen

      That would be a very bad idea. Not from just the risk aspect, but the Note 7 is dead and all versions have been recalled. This means no support and no updates. I wouldn’t be surprised if they sent out a OTA update to brick the phones in an effort to protect them liability wise for any future explosions.

      • Rob

        It would be completely illegal for them to do this. The only thing they could legally do is push an OTA that displays a warning message and takes your fingerprint or PIN as acceptance that you keeping the device is at your own risk and Samsung can not be held liable. Intentionally bricking a device someone purchased would be an easy lawsuit to win.

        • Stephen

          Well then they could easily hamper the usability of the device to allow it to only charge to a small percentage or something like that. That’s what they did with the original Note 7 in some regions. Regardless, you would be an idiot to keep a $900 phone that will have no updates and no support when you have the option for a full refund. That’s just my 2 cents.

        • Rob

          Yes they would probably cap the charging capacity at 60% and possibly turn off rapid charging as well. I’m not in disagreement, I would never keep a device that was dangerous like that, let alone a device that won’t get any updates. You’d have to be really dumb to keep the thing, especially with Nougat right around the corner.

        • gmo8492

          They would only be able to sue for the value of the phone which Samsung is more than willing to pay.

      • Elliott Wilson

        Not a nad idea for me sorry it a power user slash on my phone 24/7 and I’m sorry There’s no pho.es out that I want besides this the v20 looks cool but

        • Drewski

          Sorry that you are so naïve to actually keep your phone and cause people to die once your cell phone device starts exploding on you. You are the type of human being that enjoys seeing people get killed, hurt and die from such hazardous chemicals/explosions Bro. You cannot be serious right now Elliot. Think about what others are going through. Please please please turn in your device for a different one for the time being, just until a better Samsung Note starts coming right into play. Why would you want to still keep your Note 7 for? Yes it looks great, but you do realize that if someone dies because of your stubborn-ness/naïve ways, it is going to be your fault for allowing yourself to make others around you within your neighbor to suffer from such outrage. Think about what I said, before actually going through with your decision in keeping your phone.

      • Elliott Wilson

        Oh ok lol well when that happens ill return again I’m not a phone whore like that I really don’t live on my phone like that

        • Rob

          This refund offer isn’t going to be indefinitely available. You are going to end up with an outdated and potentially dangerous phone. Very unwise decision to keep it. Also keep in mind that Samsung will be absolved of any liability so if your phone catches fire or explodes, you will be responsible for any damages that result. You also won’t have a warranty. It’s all around a bad decision to be stubborn and keep it.

        • Drewski

          Hey Elliot. Sorry to break the news to you here buddy, but the phone is hazardous. I wouldn’t worry about keeping your phone much longer. Whether you live on your phone or not, I would suggest you go take the phone back in for a different phone. With you keeping your phone around much longer, is asking others to start running for their lives, due to you having a phone that could become hazardous Bro. I also do not see nothing funny about this issue with, with the “lol” remark there. That is so not cool to think that way.

    • samsung freud

      As much as I enjoy my note 7 I’m throwing in the towel.
      Samsung probably won’t be issuing any updates at all for this phone.
      Since I rely on the stylus feature so much, I’ll probably downgrade to the
      LG stylo 2 plus… maybe…

    • KingCobra

      Yeah you need to get rid of it. It’s a major safety hazard. Airlines are not even allowing them on board. Just get another device. It’s over. Plus Samsung will probably push out some software to brick all of them at some point in order to prevent their liability to people getting injured.

    • donnybee

      A little self-serving, don’t you think? Hopefully you live alone and not in an apartment building because I’d hate to think of your phone igniting in your sleep and your family/friends/neighbors all being put in harm’s way because of your ignorance.

      You’re like the person who doesn’t put their campfire out with water because they think it’s no big deal and they personally haven’t seen a forest fire so it must not really be able to happen..

      You’re not living in your own world, you’re living in a shared world. Your decisions have consequences and if you choose to keep an unpredictably hazardous device around just because you enjoy using it when it works is very ignorant.

  • rprocto2

    Unfortunately, I moved to the S7, what a crappy phone. I am still having screen issues with that. I am moving to the LG V20 at the end of the month.

    • noh1bvisas

      i’m waiting for the v20, too. if i don’t like that i’ll get an iphone7 plus.

  • TS50

    Going to try the Huawei Mate 9 when it comes out. Nothing in T-Mo stores interests me like the note 7 did.

  • Guest310

    I went back to the Onplus 3. The V20 does look interesting thoe.

  • KingCobra

    Samsung really allowed their obsession with Apple to get the best of them this time. Maybe this will allow other players like LG, Google, or Huawei to gain some traction in the market.

    • Rob

      What’s funny is that there are reports of the iPhone 7 catching fire and the 6 and 6S have over 500 incidents between them. It’s a consequence of continuing to use dangerous LiCo batteries because people want smaller and smaller devices and safer chemistry like LiMn would need at least double the size to reach the same capacity. LiMn is also not as flexible as LiPo LiCo cells are. While you can make a LiPo pack in any shape or size, LiMn is a lot more rigid.

      • Drewski

        Screw smaller devices. Smaller devices smell bad. I’m definitely okay with an 6.0/5.7 or 5.5 inch screen phone Bro. I freaking Love those type of cell devices theres Brother. Smaller screened phones that are 4.5 are starting to really urk my nerves in shreads Bro.

    • n910

      What obsession are you talking about? The way I see it, Note7 is the least apple-influenced device, which was logical evolution of s- and note-lines…

  • mrmiddl

    Samsung screwed the pooch, luckily they realized it before xmas . Hopefully they retool their current stock with an actual fix or make a new model that they take their time with. I’ll be grabbing a Google pixel though

    • mrmiddl

      Perfect time for another manufacturer to slide in though

    • Rob

      Yeah it’s going to take Samsung some time to recover from this, don’t be surprised if the Note brand dies and a new S-Pen brand launches next year. They definitely won’t be getting anything out this year though, nobody would buy it. Everyone is either going to the S7E, the V20, or the iPhone 7. With the pricing of the V20 and the Pixel, it may be time for me to switch to the iPhone… But I think I’ll just keep my HTC 10 for now.

      • Drewski

        You were meaning to say: LG V20, due to this forum being about Samsung right now. lol Anyways, how are you today there Brother? I hope your weekend was great. As for the LG V20, I’m second guessing on such cell device there. I would much rather get the LG V20 and not have to worry about cheesy butt smelling Samsung Galaxy Note 7. Perhaps just stick to either getting the: IPhone7/7Plus, Samsung Galaxy S7Edge or perhaps get the Google Pixel phone unlocked.

  • JayBEE

    This bites. Looks like the LG V20 or perhaps even the ASUS Zenfone 3 Deluxe is in my future…

  • Jack

    What are chances tmobile let’s me out of jump on demand if I turn this note 7 in (not damaged) so I can just buy pixel XL?

    • Rob

      They should. They don’t have the phone you want and the phone you have is refund eligible which includes EIP and leases.

    • noh1bvisas

      i think they should. depends on what you signed. it i not tmo’s fault the phones expolde.

    • Superboy808

      I got out of 3 Jump on Demand contracts by jumping to lower model phones then immediately returned them under the remorse period rules. Didn’t have to pay any penalties.

      • Rob

        Yeah you can definitely do that as well

      • n910

        There are no phones in JOD list, which don’t have restocking fee. How were you able to accomplish that?

    • SirStephenH

      Double check first but the word is that retuning a Note 7 resets your current Jump to 0 like you just now used it, not using an additional Jump in the process. If they do this then there *shouldn’t* be a reason to just let you out of the program instead. Corporations don’t tend to be logical though.

    • dtam

      if this was your first JOD, then I would think you can just return the phone. in general, I think they should take these back no questions asked

    • Andrew Singleton

      you’re automatically out if you return it.

  • JayBEE

    I will miss Samsung Pay.

    • noh1bvisas

      you’ll have to use a card. how barbaric! oh, the humanity!

      • JayBEE

        lol! Hey, it was convenient!

  • Jose M

    Good move on Samsung’s part, now they can focus on the S8, I hope they do it right. I’ll patiently wait for the Note 8 as well.

    • DMC

      me too…really bummed because I really enjoy my Note 7. Will probably end up waiting for the Note 8, the Pixel phones have great specs, but I’ve been a samsung guy since the original galaxy S, and I’m not really too interested in going to a competitor.

      • Jose M

        Agreed, I’m staying with Samsung, i’m holding onto my Note 4 till next year.

        • DMC

          I think I may have to go find a cheap note 4 myself. I really enjoy the stylus and the feature set of the note series. Note 7 was my first note, and I am surprised by how much I actually use the stylus…not to mention how amazing the picture quality is from the camera…oh well, I got a free gear fit2 out of it, so I can’t complain too much.

        • Acdc1a

          The resale on these has jumped.

        • Phone Guy

          Consider the Note 5. Much closer to the Note 7 than the clunky Note 4. Better S pen and better software. Camera on Note 5 still isn’t close to as good as the Note 7.

    • Bradley Karas

      Just gave mine up for the S7 Edge…sad day

  • George Salcedo

    50% off the note 5 sounds good right about now haha.

    • Acdc1a

      Water proof the thing, add an SD, and release the 5s..

  • Koolme666

    S8 is gonna be fire, you’ll see. Removeable battery and all.

    • noh1bvisas

      that’s what they should name it. the samsung fire. wait, that’s taken by kindle.

      • Koolme666

        Kindle who??

        • noh1bvisas

          the kindle fire. it’s an e-reader.

        • Koolme666

          I’m just busting your balls, I wouldn’t call it just an e reader though, it’s definitely an affordable tablet that does quite a bit

  • vplaza

    Fire sale on S7 Edge phones?

  • John

    After what happened, We should demand Samsung to unlock the bootloader on next 8 series. Or we should give them the finger!!!

  • DKBNYC

    “”UPDATE” – Samsung has discover the problem and it seems it can be fixed with a simple software update….

    Is what I want to hear!!!! Oh well, back to the Note 4

    • Acdc1a

      Not going to happen.

    • Drewski

      Not going to happen at all either. Screw that crap. You might as well wait on the Samsung Galaxy S8/S8Edge or perhaps a better phone like the Samsung Note8.

  • joe

    they send me a fire extinguisher with the purchase of my note 7 and a gear fit watch, I get to keep both

  • Chef

    My new note 7 replacement works fine….better than my first one. There is no phone out right now that I’m interested in. Fuckin sucks!

    • Acdc1a

      It happens. There’s plenty of great, inexpensive phones on the market. This will open people’s eyes.

      • Chef

        Well open my eyes! What other phones are as great as the note 7?

        • Bklynman

          How about the Lg Stylo 2?

        • Acdc1a

          Galaxy S6 Edge is a great device albeit no S Pen and a generation old. That’s $350 all day and night on eBay and other sources.

          The mid-range handsets are killing it now too. Pick from any number of manufacturers at $250 and down.

          The Axon, Moto Z, and several others are flagship phones at a discount price.

      • Paul

        Yes, elaborate on what phones compare to the Note 7 that are currently available?

        • J.J.

          Didn’t say compare/as great. I believe they just meant they are inexpensive and great. The 6p, axon 7, op3 do not compare, but they are inexpensive and great phones.

    • Drewski

      You cannot always be about comparing this or that device at a time like this, right now. Just look at this way, at least you will get a phone that you can make use of just until you can get a better one that could compare to the Note 7 at a later time. Sometimes, the best that we were wishing for to have/save hard earned on money on, just ends up not being our best choice at the moment right now, that time. At least you will have a working phone that will still take great quality photos, and it being a phone that is not a 5.5 inch screened phone.

  • T Redd

    Swapped out my note 7 for an s7. Feels like a downgrade. Owell, it should hold me over till the next year.

    • Jazzyjeff215

      Did you have to pay taxes swap for the s7?

      • T Redd

        Yes

        • T Redd

          The down payment i put on my note 7 was refunded, and put on my s7. I didn’t come out of pocket.

      • noh1bvisas

        of course, they should have been refunded the taxes on the note 7, too.

    • Nicolas Lalaurette

      Thats exactly how I felt with the loaner.

  • Paul

    Went back to the Note 5, solid device that I was happy with before.

    • Nicolas Lalaurette

      How is the note 5 compared to the note 7? I’m thinking in going that route, right now I’m using an old Nexus 5. Is the UI similar? Does it support mst for mobile payments or just NFC?

      • n910

        Note5 supports both mst and nfc payments. UI more similar to other samsung flagships (s6/Edge/+/s7/edge) than to new Grace UI of note7, but still comparable. Major differences out of top of my head: no microSD slot, flat screen, 32gb base (vs 64gb), no IP68 waterproofing, no iris scanner, no always-on display, 3000mAh battery (vs 3500). May sound that note 5 lacks a lot, but overall, if note7 was your first note device, then note5 will be closest replacement, unless microSD support is a must.

        • Nicolas Lalaurette

          Thanks for the response, actually none of those are real deal breakers, maybe the UI but the rest I can live without.

        • Paul

          As n910 said, there are some physical differences between the models. Of course, it comes down to what fits your needs.

          For me, the Note 5 was and is a fantastic phone.

        • Nicolas Lalaurette

          Well, for me the micrSD slot really makes no difference, the curved screen looks good but is not a deal breaker, storage is ok, IP68 is nice for taking pictures of the kids in the water park but summer is over, iris scanner never used it and neither the always on display (always on display distracts me when the phone is on the table) and battery size I can deal with. The UI is what kinda kills it for me, the long settings page where I can never find anything, the quick setting drop menu, etc. The Note 7 is such a gorgeous looking phone, the only reason why I decided to give samsung a chance (always said I would never get a samsung because of TouchWiz) is because of how simple the UI looked and how sexy the phone was. Did samsung solved the RAM management issues on the Note 5? I had the S7 Edge as a loaner for 2 weeks and is not the same as the Note 7. I’m waiting for my local T-Mobile store to open so I can return the phone :'(

        • Paul

          I totally understand the sd card problem, and you can see Samsung listened to the consumer by putting it back in the Note 7.
          I adapted but know I’ll get back to one with a sd card slot.

          You can run any launcher you want, just look up one in the play store. Even google’s launcher is there.

          I don’t see or have issued with the RAM. That also falls under the OS, and the Note 5 is on Android 6.0.1 right now.
          The performance send the same from my short experience.

          Ha ha, they tried to get me onto an s7 edge…pass.
          Good luck!

        • Nicolas Lalaurette

          Returned my Note 7 yesterday and got a black Note 5 instead, the phone really feels solid in the hand not like the s7 edge. So far I’m really happy with my decision.

        • Paul

          AWESOME!! I’m sure you’ll love it.

        • n910

          You have the option to edit the long settings page on Note 5 and bring to top the settings you use most. The “edit” button is in the top right hand corner. In this regard that’s even more convenient than on Note7, where you don’t have that option at all.

          On Note 5 after initial swipe down, you have the option of swiping left to reveal additional quick settings. You have an option of long pressing an icon to get into more detailed settings for that feature (instead of pressing down arrow on note7). And as always you can use double finger swipe down to reveal all quick settings on both phones.

          For someone just starting with TouchWiz, Grace UI seems much simpler, but the old way is also pretty efficient. It may take some time to get used to it, but I guess, that’s not too bad.

          As for ram management, I have Note 5 from day 1 with no issues.

        • Nicolas Lalaurette

          Thanks for the response, BTW how is the exinos cpu holding up after one year?

        • n910

          Just as good as a brand new one i got 8 or 9 months later for my other line… the only issue i’m expecting in 4-5 months is the battery i wrote above…

        • n910

          Just keep in mind, you’ll notice substantial battery performance decrease after 1-1.5year of moderate usage if you always use fast charging capabilities of the phone. That’s true for any phone with fast charging capabilities, and while with Note 4 you can simply swipe the battery and be good as on day 1, with Note 5, you can’t. Just a heads up.

        • Nicolas Lalaurette

          Will be switching phones after a year or so, no worries there. My I’ve been using phones with built in batteries since the nexus 4 came out and never had an issue.

        • Paul

          To be fair, the Note 5 has a 64gb version. It doesn’t have to be the base model but it is available.

        • Solomon Boukai

          T-Mobile isn’t stocking the 64 GB model anymore. If you find any in a store, those are the last ones available and once they sell out that’s it. Unless Samsung makes more to make up for ending the Note 7. I know this because I was in a race to find a T-Mobile store that still had a 64 GB Note 5. They really are selling out fast.

  • n910

    Keeping mine as long as I can, until sammy remotely kills or somehow
    bricks it.There is nothing on the market remotely comparable to Note7.
    Even sammy’s own s7 or s7 edge are inferior devices.

    • noh1bvisas

      “Keeping mine as long as I can, until sammy remotely kills or somehow
      bricks it.”

      or it explodes

      • n910

        well, then it will be the first note7 to actually explode… it may catch a fire, though… which is not the same (unless you are a journalist). In any case, i (or anyone else for that matter) have a higher chances of dying in a car accident than witnessing my unit catching a fire…

        • noh1bvisas

          keep justifying. please come back and let us know if it does burn/explode/whatever so we can laugh at you.

        • n910

          justifying what? my decision to keep the phone despite the risks? btw, you are welcome to start laughing now…

        • Drewski

          Yes justifying is absolutely right Bro, why keep the phone, knowing it’s going to catch on fire/explode any moment now? You should start thinking about those that are surrounded by you, within your neighborhood. What if it were to catch on fire, spreading massively throughout the whole entire neighborhood?

        • n910

          I wouldn’t keep a phone if I knew it’s GOING to catch a fire… yes, it MAY catch a fire, but it is not the same… just like any other phone with Lithium-ion battery may, though with moderately lower probability than note7… Everyday we make decisions involving some degree of risk… i like the phone and see no other phone remotely close to note7, so in this case the expected likelihood and possible consequences of me keeping the phone is within my risk margin…

        • Drewski

          You are putting others at risk with getting killed due to your poor way of doing things and thinking. Stop trying to cause us to feel threatened by your way of thinking by keeping the phone that has known for explosion/killing awhole bunch of people that are around you. Like I’m saying to you one last time, please remove the phone from your presence and simply return it for a different phone that is just as good as the Note7 just until you are able to get your phone on the next Samsung Note phone that won’t cause any hazardous dangers towards others like myself. It is not a decision making, it is about a risk that could put others in danger, due to you agreeing with the face that others shall suffer from an explosion/get killed. Due to you keeping your phone like a pathetic person would have, gives people the reason to jump right all over you for feeling the need to not listen the first time. Have fun killing people/being brutally explosive to everyone else around your house/neighborhood, because you have been warned to just simply do the right thing.

        • Drewski

          What a silly dude you are. Come on now, please do not make a dumb decision as such. There are others around you that could from such hazardous chemicals/explosion there.

        • n910

          grow up… seriously

        • Drewski

          I’m already grown sweetie. It is you that agrees with getting people killed due to your poor way of thinking. Pretty soon the FBI/Police person is going to reguire you to return your phone in for a different one. I’m going to laugh too.

    • samsung freud

      You’re right, nothing compares to the note 7.
      Unfortunately this phone probably won’t receive updates, or support in a few months.
      I bit the bullet and picked up an LG Stylo Pro 2, it doesn’t even begin to compare
      to the note 7, but at least it will see updates and I’ll have some support.
      Now I just need to transfer all my files to the LG and get my refund on my poor note 7.

      TIP: if you get charged for a Sim starter kit and they just moved your sim card from
      phone to the other and the idiots at the store insist that it’s a mandatory charge,
      call customer care and complain. They’ll credit your account.

      • n910

        Yeah, more than likely, it won’t get any updates… but i have no doubt that even without any updates no other phone will come close till next note is out sometime next year… in any case if i decide or forced to part with note7, i’ll simply go back to my note 4 which is still going strong enough to consider anything else.

        Never been charged for sim kit, probably because most my lines on jod.

      • SF49

        The only time you will be charged for a sim card is when you add a new line or if you want a new sim card for any other reason than your sim card being defective.

        T-Mobile sim card fee for new lines is still cheaper than the other carriers activation fees and don’t be mad at the store reps they are only doing their job from what is pushed down from John Legere and his team.

        The store reps don’t want to be written up or fired for not doing their job they have family’s to support and bills to pay just like the rest of us.

  • J.J.

    Just boxed up my note 7 for the last time and set up a 6p I just picked up. So sad. I’m thinking I’ll try to the v20 for giggles on T-Mobile Jod or impulse buy a pixel when available

  • Jazzyjeff215

    Did anyone swap their note 7 for a s7 or s7edge and have to pay taxes?

    • T Redd

      Yeah. Taxes included

      • Jazzyjeff215

        So you had to pay the taxes for the s7/s7 edge? Or was it a even swap?

        • T Redd

          The down payment i put on note7 went towards the s7. I didn’t come out of pocket. I actually got refunded $50 back on my debit card.

        • Jazzyjeff215

          Oh okay cause indent inbto the tmobile store and they were making sound like I would have to pay extra money out of pocket . But if that is the case I will take care of that tomorrow. Thank you for your help

        • T Redd

          Naw.. Whatever you’ve already put down on the n7, they will use that.. I had a down payment of 160 for the note7. They took that for the s7, and i got a case without paying extra with a refunded $50.

    • You always have to pay the taxes. They gave me a refund and then just did the whole process, like I was buying it again, with the replacement. For the Note 7, you had to put down a down payment + taxes, because of the price and fitting it into a 2 year agreement

  • Rob Sauceda

    What the heck did they do to these phones that all this is happening

  • michael

    Sad day for me the Note 7 was a beautiful fast device for me, nothing else compared in my eyes I am only hoping that Samsung does not kill it forever. Very disappointed hope they come back strong next year

    • Drewski

      So sorry to say this, but the Samsung Note 7 is no longer selling anymore. Wait for the Samsung Note 8 or perhaps wait for the Samsung Galaxy s8/s8edge to come out.

  • michael

    I honestly think this is the best looking Samsung phone ever made …so sad

    • n910

      Totally agree… might even be the best looking phone among all manufacturers (or at least the ones I’m familiar with) at the moment…

  • Phil

    GS7 Edge with Spen would of been perfect Note.
    Hopefully Samsung will go that direction with 8 series.
    Galaxy S8 Edge Pro

    • Drewski

      Well said there Brother.

    • michael

      The design of the Note 7 is better, if they make a S8 that looks like the note 7 with a spen then I’m all on it

    • If it has an S Pen, it will be a Note, not the S Series

  • Junior Gutierrez

    I think people are just making stuff up just to get money out of it my first note 7 never had any symptoms or problems neither does the replacement

    • Drewski

      What a naïve thought you have there. Nobody is making stuff up. These issues have actually happened. Why would you want to sit there and make such silly thought about someone making stuff up? There have been cases with iphones doing similar situations. Why would the news make this stuff up, and it actually being witness by others exploding on aircrafts including other areas within other peoples homes. You are one un-caring person that always believe that the news or perhaps others are the biggest liars, knowing they are not lying about this matter happening there.

      • samsung freud

        I see you feel strongly about this, as we all do.
        But we heard you the first time….

        • Drewski

          Was I even talking to you? Why are you here? You do realize that I had an error within one of the same paragraphs, right? Why are you here again Buddy? Even if it were to be said twice, it wasn’t your business to be tapping right into my conversation, trying to correct me or check me. Seriously, what you could have done was not correct me and agree on my side, that either way, it did not matter of me trying to say it out twice, just so this pathetic human being could not put others in danger.

        • samsung freud

          You’re in a public forum.
          Get used to being spoken to without an invitation.
          Yes, I realize you had an error within your use of this forum.
          I’m here because it’s a public forum, again get used to it.
          Agree with you? I suspect very few people agree with any of your
          opinions.
          Pathetic human being? yes, I see one right now…
          It’s interesting how you hide behind the veil of anonymity here….

        • Drewski

          Have a Nice Day now. Please I do not want to ever hear from you again.

        • samsung freud

          Maybe… maybe not

        • Drewski

          Maybe yes. I will continue to repeat myself each and every single time now. I’m going to irritate the heck out of you. Have a fantastic blessed Day now. I enjoy making honest errors and repeating myself. So try stopping me right now.

        • Drewski

          Don’t care no need to say anything to me or correct me about making myself clear about topics. If I chose to say things twice well that is my business and not yours.

    • Drewski

      Are you upset at the fact that the Samsung Note 7 is just going to cut it this year around? Are you just so naïve in believing that this is not actually happening with your best cell phone device? Let’s wake up and smell the coffee already. Perhaps the Samsung Note8 or Note9 would be the better option to go with sometime next year. So in the meantime, just stick it all out for a better one. Another thing that you have to look at, is you cannot always assume, your Note7 not experiencing any symptons, that it won’t catch any of these symptons in the near future later on. Not good to just keep assuming as such. Think about the people around, before feeling the need to open up your mouth/put people at danger.

    • Drewski

      Are you upset at the fact that the Samsung Note 7 is just Not going to cut it this year around? Are you just so naïve in believing that this is not actually happening with your best cell phone device? Let’s wake up and smell the coffee already. Perhaps the Samsung Note8 or Note9 would be the better option to go with sometime next year. So in the meantime, just stick it all out for a better one. Another thing that you have to look at, is you cannot always assume, your Note7 not experiencing any symptons, that it won’t catch any of these symptons in the near future later on. Not good to just keep assuming as such. Think about the people around, before feeling the need to open up your mouth/put people at danger.*

    • Jsun

      How silly of samsung for believing the people who are making stuff up. You should write to samsung and tell them that your phone is fine and you’ve done the investigation to prove the other stories wrong. Just remember to show your proofs alright buddy.

      • Drewski

        Boy go to sleep and stop using fake names just to prove that it is not you talking down on others making stuff up about their phones exploding on them. Samsung already knew of the matter through a personal call from Southwest, including actual news reporters showing proof to Samsung. Not everyone has access to another phone or to the mailbox Bro. You are mad because your favorite phone is not Apple or Google capable to begin with. That’s what Samsung gets for trying to be like Apple/Google. lol

      • Drewski

        Whoooooops. Please disregard my last message to you theres. I just not realized that you were on all of our sides Brother. Again I apologize. LOL whoops. I feel so bad right now Jsun.

        • Jsun

          Hahaha no worries bud. I apprieciate that you got back at me. I too, sometimes miss on the sarcasm of some people, so no need to feel bad.

          Anyway, this whole Samsung dilemma has been an inconvenience for many people.

    • Junior Gutierrez

      Lol damn take the crap out your ass everyone has their own views I didn’t waste my time writing a whole paragraph just my opinion funny how people become Internet police all over a opinion get over it I’m keeping my note 7 cry me a river

      • Stephen

        I would not suggest keeping it. Not just because the fire risk, but with all Note 7s being recalled and the line ended, there will be absolutely no support or updates. Any updates will likely handicap the phone by disabling quick charge, capping battery charge percentage, or other similar things. You can obviously do what you want, but I would suggest returning the phone for a full refund while you can.

  • Samsung is fucking up. I came back to them for this phone, smh. I’ll hold on to it for 2 weeks, I’m waiting for the V20. There’s nothing else that interests me, not going to get another Samsung phone right now. I should have just kept my V10

  • Dan

    I was thinking about joining the dark side. Samsung was the only Android phone I’ve ever liked now that (in my opinion) I have the best they have to offer that iPhone 7 plus 256gb looks pretty interesting.

    • Jsun

      Go for it! It’s just a phone and you can always go back to either platform. I’ve had both and I just happen to like android a little more.

      • Alfonso Manuel Avalos

        Same here I’ve been waiting on an iPhone since the 11th of last month I was gonna get the note but wanted to wait to see how this paned out. Ive been using a 5s since I sold my 6p and I can’t seem to get used to ios , im missing ad blocker , and some of the tweaked and modded apps I use . Hope something g nice comes out sooner than later so I can jump back to android

        • Vic

          iOS has native support for ad blockers since iOS 9

        • Alfonso Manuel Avalos

          Does it block in all aspects ? Like on all apps and stuff ? Or just web browsing ?

    • stasek

      I was a diehard android user, but recently got a deal I couldn’t refuse on an iPhone 6s Plus. With all the standard google apps being available on iOS, I don’t see much difference in day to day usage.

  • todd

    Samsung has always been problem but they’re still the best alternative to the apple products. They do screw up though; the Tab 10.5 was the last problem before this note 7. It was slow, has very slow charging, and the screen cracks way too easily. Sammy should buy HTC and help them make great phones. (too late?)

    • Spanky

      Let’s not forget the original Galaxy S with the unusable GPS and the file system that caused the phone to constantly lag.

      • Acdc1a

        Note 3 had BAD gps problems that were addressed in the 4.

      • Ascertion

        Are we complaining about devices that came out in 2010 now? I’ve had the Galaxy S, Galaxy S2, Galaxy S3, and the Galaxy S7 and the only ones that had GPS issues was the first and second one. Since the GS3, the GPS has never been an issue. I’d say it would be a legitimate complaint if they never resolved the issue.

  • Nick

    I was a die hard fan i have every high end android since vibrant but……im done there battery are bad,gps sucks..updates not reliable..and its the same stuff every year…moving to apple after 10 faithful years with android #Apple iphone 7 plus

    • Ascertion

      What exactly do you mean by same stuff each year? Android’s added a lot more to their OS than Apple has in the last few years. Wireless Charging, Waterproofing (up until this most recent iphone), expandable storage, better selection, etc.
      To me it seems like Apple is playing catch up.

      That said, regarding the updates, I feel that iPhones after 2 years become pretty obsolete on the latest OS update. I’ve seen it with the iPhone 4 and the iPhone 5 (from family members.) What good are updates if it slows the entire device down to the point where an upgrade is required?

    • n910

      The fundamental differences between iOS and android are still there just like 8 or 9 years ago: lack of access to file system, closed up OS with apple telling/forcing its users how to use their phone, very limited customizability, heavy use of proprietary software and hardware etc… I fail to see how adding features android flagships had for years and getting closer to Note 3 from 2013 feature-wise, closes the gap between the iOS and android for a “die hard” fan as you claim to be… Yes, adding fast charging, high resolution display, support for VR, wireless charging, MST payments, always on display, support for expandable memory, iris scanner, true multitasking, high precision pen and so on and so forth in future generations of iPhones may convince a regular user that android and iOS became similar, but until apple touches fundamental differences, the two OS will always be like day and night for a “die hard”…

  • Jazzyjeff215

    Anyine on jump on demand turn in their note 7 and went with the iPhone 7 plus? If so what did you have to put down upfront ?

    • steadymobb

      My friend did it just depends what model /size you get. He had to put 150 down I believe

  • Which is really at fault, the battery or the phone? Samsung should investigate, there are doubts.

  • Solomon Boukai

    I really hate this situation. I loved the Note 7. It was such a good phone. At least I’ve finally washed my hands of this mess. I downgraded to a 64 GB Note 5 in gold. I wanted it in black but I am lucky I got a 64 GB Note 5 at all. They’re no longer stocking 64 GB models of older Samsung phones so whatever you can find in store is all they have and they’re selling out fast.

    • Mike Simon

      I feel your pain Note 7 brother. I had the Note 5 before the 7 and decided to go with the S7 Edge. I decided I would try something new to maybe help my depression lol.

  • Walt

    Apple should just Samsung :D

    • Aaa

      Buy*

    • 3165dwayne

      samsung is much bigger than just cell phones. they even make tanks…

      • Fabian

        Tanks that shoot Note 7s?

    • metalspy8

      Reports of iphone 7 exploding as well..maybe same battery manufacturers.

  • Philip

    Can anyone explain what cause the Note 7 downfall? Because the phone was made in China? It should have been made in Vietnam? China doing something bad? Is it just only the battery and not the phone itself? Can someone provide the real reason?

    • Stephen

      It was believed that the batteries from China were good. All replacement devices used batteries from China. Google “for those wondering why Note 7s go boom”. Basically one possibility is a design flaw which causes the battery layers at the curved edge to compress and in some instances touch/arc causing a fire.

  • Mike Simon

    Anyone else hear the rumors that they are coming out with an S7 Edge in the Blue Coral? I would love to get it so at least I could try to convince myself I still have my Note 7 lol.

    • Stephen

      I think Verizon is supposed to get it first. It would be stupid of them to do an exclusive with Verizon on the color with everything that’s going on.

      • Mike Simon

        I’ve heard that too. I wonder if its being assumed since the pic that’s out there says Verizon. If Samsung is smart they will get that color out to all the carriers asap.

  • Philip

    ” There are also insurance issues to consider. If your phone caused significant damage to your property, your insurance provider would almost certainly attempt to void your claim. In other words, your Note7 could end up costing you tens of thousands of dollars.” I got this from somewhere else. Is this true?

    • Stephen

      I’m not an insurance expert or anything, but in general insurance companies want to pay out as little as possible. If you know of the dangers of the Note 7 and continue using it, then you are negligent in that aspect. Rather or not that means your screwed insurance wise is a different story. Fire hazard, no support, and no updates…..you are better off getting the full refund

  • S Davis

    Samsung sucks! Exchange to a superior iphone 7 plus!!

    • metalspy8

      Take an L ..gtfo

    • Bud

      take a W

    • n910

      How exactly iphone 7 plus is superior?

    • Mike Simon

      Your opinion. I think the Note 7 was much better. I now have the S7 Edge and it’s still better then the iPhone, but that’s my opinion.

      • Drewski

        Sorry I’m gonna have to speak on this matter right now there buddy. You sound so pathetic right now Bro. How are you going to sit there and talk about how the Note 7 has been thoroughly Superior over the iPhone 7/7Plus??? The iPhone 7/7plus have totally outshined the Note7/7recall. Samsung are the biggest copy cat of Apple/Google products. lol So sorry to have to hear about your favorite product going into shreds now. Pretty soon Google,iphones even Alcatel,ZTE are going to be overtaking Samsung phones. I also believe that LG phones are more Superior over Samsung phones.

      • Morton H

        Thats my opinion too

    • Markito Eric Soler

      Dude stay off the crack. I have both phones and the iPhone is a piece of trash.. I’m waiting for the Note 8.

      • Drewski

        Bro, not nice to say that to someone in this situation there Buddy. The iPhone 7/7Plus is so a more reasonable phone to have. Just because it might smell bad to you, does not mean that it will smell bad to others. Most Samsung products are starting to smell like butt now. So sorry that you can’t have your way all the time there Buddy.

      • Morton H

        I agree, Note 8 too

      • Isaiah

        Can you be more specific what you do not like about the iPhone compared to Android?

  • Richard Nocon

    I think you should be more worried about Tmobile! Good luck in your exchange process as all the TMO sales rep in stores want to do is sell so if you have to exchange, they won’t help! Horrible customer service the last 3-5 years with TMobile – both in person and especially on the phone. CAUTION to anyone thinking of “JUMPING” to Tmobile, cheap prices also apparently come with CHEAP CUSTOMER SERVICE.

    You’ve been warned….I’m basing this on actual recent experience!

    • Corey Jalette

      Go on twitter and direct message @TmobileHelp they will get it situated for you. They go above and beyond to keep their customers. I’d also put in a complaint against that store for not allowing you to get a refund.

    • john

      stop crying you baby. you can easily tell the rep you dont want anything other than the new phone and that’ll be the end of it

  • Mike Simon

    So I said good bye (for the second time) to my Coral Blue Note 7. I went for the Silver S7 Edge. Had every Note since the 3. Hard to get used to the smaller phone, and I hate the silver–only had silver or gold and I’m not Yukon Cornelius so I’m pretty bummed. Can’t wait for the Note 8 (or whatever the decide to call it) Anyone else bummed over all this?

    • n910

      Feel the same way, except I couldn’t convince myself to part with my beauty (also blue coral). And in case it doesn’t last till next Note or Samsung tries to brick it, I’ll go back to my Note 4 (any other non-Note device feels deficient).

  • Markito Eric Soler

    I will never invest into an iPhone ever again. I prefer my Note 7.. I’ll be waiting for the Note 8

    • Drewski

      Throw your Note 7 away. I would switch to something more reasonable then, just until I’m able to get ahold of the Note 8 or perhaps it will be switch to something different. Samsung is in talks in rebranding their Note into something else different now.

    • Morton H

      I totally agree with you I love my note 7 and very very upset with the decisions followed. Samsung Pay, Iris scanner, Build, quality camera, Samsung Cloud, best picture quality period. I went back to s7 edge, i am waiting until s8 edge or note 8 or whatever they call it around that time. I am using Axon 7 unlocked with Android Pay however nothing compares to Samsung Pay as I dont bring my wallet with me, since it works everywhere.

  • Drewski

    Hello I love T-Mobile

  • BreakThaLawFTP

    For an Android user an iPhone would never be acceptable…for a casual phone user an iPhone would be just fine…as an Android user Ill just wait for an S8 or Note 8….im not partial to Samsung but AMOLED is damn near required for me, other than Galaxy devices the only other thing I’d consider is Xperia but T-Mobile obviously don’t love Sony..

    • Drewski

      Well then my suggestion to you is to wait for the Samsung Note 8 or a different Samsung phone that will replace both Note7/Note 8. I hear that Samsung might be changing their whole branding on all future Notes now. They might not be doing anymore Samsung Galaxy Notes now, due to the whole Note7 incident continuously occurring each and every single time now.

    • Isaiah

      Saying that an iPhone would never be acceptable to an android user is an assumption and personal opinion if you do not like apple’s iphone that is fine. But the iPhone and Android platforms have the same applications. The iPhone’s generally have high specs. The only difference is that Apple iPhone does not allow as much customization as an Android device. I have used both IOS and Android and both have gotten the job done. They are both good for applications, music, video playback, camera, and video recording.

      • BreakThaLawFTP

        Can you download music and video from any website on the internet right to your phone with Apple? Can I have my web browser open and maps open on the same screen with Apple? Can I move files from folder to folder through a file manager with Apple? If the answers to these questions is no, Apple is unacceptable.