T-Mobile CTO says less than one percent of customers turn off Binge On, also talks 600MHz deployment

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T-Mobile executives have made quite a few interesting comments at various conferences lately, and today there are a couple of other interesting tidbits to share.

First up, T-Mobile CTO Neville Ray has said that less than eight-tenths of one percent of T-Mobile customers have turned off Binge On since its launch last year. T-Mo has regularly touted how Binge On usage, like when it said back in July that customers had streamed more than 765 million hours of video data-free, and now we know that most customers that have access to Binge On are using it.

As you might expect, all of those customers watching Binge On video has had an effect on T-Mobile’s network. Ray said that the overall volume of data on T-Mo’s network has dropped 13 to 15 percent thanks to Binge On, which is up from 10 percent when Binge On first launched in 2015.

The effect that Binge On has had on T-Mobile’s network has apparently drawn interest from other carriers. Ray revealed that unspecified international carriers have reached out to T-Mo to ask about details on Binge On.

Binge On was the subject of some controversy when it first launched, but T-Mobile worked to improve the service by adding more zero-rated video providers and making it easier to disable Binge On. We haven’t heard much about Binge On lately, though, because of the new T-Mobile One plan that offers unlimited DVD quality video streaming. But while T-Mobile One offers unlimited DVD quality, subscribers also have to pay for a $3 HD Day Pass or the $25 T-Mobile One Plus plan to get HD video, rather than simply flipping a switch like Binge On customers.

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In other news, Ray has said that T-Mobile is still aiming to begin deploying 600MHz spectrum in 2017. The FCC is conducting a 600MHz spectrum auction, and while some are concerned that it’ll take years before carriers begin deploying that spectrum so that consumers can use it, Ray has said, “We look to deploy that spectrum as quickly as possible… So is that a ’17 opportunity, into ’18? We believe that is the case.”

Ray’s statement reiterates what Peter Ewans, T-Mobile’s EVP of Corporate Strategy, said earlier this year. “We believe we’ll be able to get the start of deployment and usage at the end of 2017,” Ewans said.

Sources: FierceWireless, FierceTelecom

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  • TheCudder

    I admit, I leave it on. I have a 4.7″ HTC One…it’s really not bothersome at 480p on such a small screen…and I usually get easily irritated when something is not good quality. For example, I’m sure every guy has met that girl who insists on watching the Standard Def channels on your 50″+ HDTV…and they swear that they can’t tell the difference between the SD & HD.

    • Paul

      Ha ha ha, I can’t stand people who don’t upgrade their TVs!!

      I’m with you, and I have a note 5. But…I did turn it off. Wouldn’t really bother me that much anyway.

      • John Wentworth

        On the Note 5 480p really bugged me.

        • Paul

          I’m usually on the elliptical machine so I don’t notice it.

    • John Wentworth

      Lol that’s my wife. used to drive me nuts until we got rid of cable and now we only get hd content

  • Alex Zapata

    I guess I’m in that minority! I usually leave it off just because I can.

  • Bryan Pizzuti

    Jeez, 600 MHz hasn’t even been turned into an official LTE band yet. So I’m fairly sure there’s no device support. ;)

    • I’m also very curious what phones will start supporting it. I’ve historically been a big fan of unlocked devices, but it’s getting more difficult with T-Mobile to get everything out of that with VoLTE only working on T-Mo branded devices (not always fast firmware updates for Android) or Nexus devices. And I’m not going iOS.

      Hopefully their LTE implementation on 600MHz is open and compatible with every device out there when that time comes.

      • SirStephenH

        Many non-branded Android devices have B12 VoLTE support. It used to be a problem when they first started deployment but it’s becoming more commonplace.

      • marque2

        Nexus 5x and 6p support 700mhz and VoLTE. But yes, it is more likely to be supported on a TM phone.

  • Willie D

    I can tell the difference between on and off, but when Im watching on a mobile device, on the go, Im more concerned with it loading fast, and not buffering, so if that means a lower but still nice quality enough to watch without distortion, then Im all for it. I have turned it off a few times just to see the difference, and the network usually CAN load 720 fine, 1080 with possible buffering during peak hours, and 1440 generally only at night when usage is lower, but when I turned it back on, I notice Im still using large amounts of data anyway

    • John Wentworth

      I have it off because I notice the quality and I’m usually under 26 GB of data.
      My wife is a social media/ youtube junkie and uses well over 26 GB of data a month and was complaining of the deprioritization effects occasionally. So I turned Binge-on ON for her which reduced her usage signifigantly, though she’s still going over 26 gb each month but not by as much. I didn’t mention this to her, I figured it would be an experiment as I’d label her a typical user.

      She never mentioned or noticed the video quality change.
      So I guess it’s a good deal for most average users.
      I as someone who used to do a lot of video encoding am definitely not the averaged user, my eye spots the differences in a second.

  • PCFreckle

    Yay! I’m finally a member of the one percent!!

    • Trevnerdio

      Same hahaha

      • John Wentworth

        Me Three :)

  • kevev

    “T-Mo has regularly touted how Binge On usage, like when it said back in July that customers had streamed more than 765 million hours of video data-free,”

    Nothing’s free buddy….

    It’s a good thing though. More bandwidth for us non-BingeOn users ;-)

  • Dan

    I dont get why they need both 600 and 700 mhz spectrum? I could understand that they want to deploy 600mhz in the areas that dont have 700mhz but t-mobile has most of the country already deployed with 700mhz (or has the license for it)

    • SirStephenH

      600MHz will provide better coverage (indoor and distance) than band 12 (700MHz), they can use it to cover areas where they can’t obtain band 12 spectrum, and it’ll provide additional bandwidth in the low-band (something greatly needed) in areas where both are deployed.

      • Dan

        I understand the logic but the characteristics of 600 and 700mhz are pretty close. And yes i agree purchase 600 where they dont own 700. No need for a nationwide licesnse unless they plan on hoarding the spectrum for the future.

        It just seems like a waste to deploy both 600 and 700 on the same tower

        • Bryant

          T-Mobile only has 5mhz of 700 spectrum in most areas, whereas Verizon has 20mhz in most areas. You are right the characteristics of 600 and 700 mhz spectrum are similar, but T-Mobile would like a bigger quantity of low-band spectrum. Most of the 700 mhz spectrum has been eaten up by Dumb and Dumber (C, B, D blocks). Only some small carriers have some they are willing to sell (A-Block 700), and it’s only 5mhz.

        • SirStephenH

          They aren’t going for a nationwide license, they’re just purchasing to fill in the B12 holes and to add low-band capacity in areas where B12 is overloaded or will be.

          Low-band is great for coverage but not for capacity. T-Mobile greatly increased their coverage with the B12 deployment but that additional coverage relies on that band. T-Mobile is only purchasing and deploying band 12 lower block A which is 6MHz+6MHz of paired spectrum which they deploy as 5×5. This provides very little bandwidth. Deploying additional low-band spectrum (in this case 600MHz) in the same area as B12 increases capacity which means quicker speeds and it will be able to handle more devices before it slows to a crawl.

  • One percent

    For parity, I’d be curious to see how many would enable “Binge On” if it was off by default.

    • Acdc1a

      My guess is if it’s unlimited vs. not most people would turn it on. 0% of unlimited users would.

  • SirStephenH

    I don’t really stream that much away from WiFi these days so I just leave it on for the VUDU credits. If I needed to do some serious streaming over data or if they do away with the VUDU credit then that sucker’s going off.

    I can’t believe that 480p is still acceptable to people.

    • donnybee

      We’re talking about a handheld screen. The quality being lower makes sense when you think of the use case scenario.

      Also, it’s hardly noticeable. In fact, if you recall, AT&T & VZW subscribers had their quality for streaming reduced to 360p on Netflix for example. Nobody realized it was lower quality until it was revealed – which was a couple years down the road. 1080p & 4k sound better (buzz words, if you will) but when we’re talking about streaming on phones, it just doesn’t make much sense.. and for years nobody knew they weren’t getting the highest quality.

      That being said – I have BingeOn turned off. Because I can.

      • Andrew Singleton

        Well done. I have an s7e and when you take into account the benefit of unlimited streaming on a tiered plan, 480p on a 5″ screen is more than acceptable if even noticed.

      • Actually a higher quality on a smaller screen is better because you are holding it closer to your face than a 32 inch TV.

        • donnybee

          That’s correct, and also incorrect. It’s all perception.

          Handheld screens have smaller pixels than a tv. This is because the tv sits further away from you. You don’t see big black lines between pixels on a tv because the pixels are larger. Distance from the screen causes the perception of the whole picture to seem sharp or low-resolution.

          Here’s some math for you: my 4k tv is 43″. It looks crisp as hell. My iPhone 6S screen is 4.7″. It also looks crisp as hell. The 4k tv has 10,512 pixels/sq inch (~103ppi), the iPhone has 106,044 pixels/sq inch (~326ppi). The average human eye, with an excellent ability to focus vision, would be able to see a limit of ~300ppi when a screen is held a foot from your face. The average distance of someone with good eyesight, and with a larger screened device, holds it 1.5 feet from their face, meaning ppi can be lower than 300 and still be sharp/crisp. This is why nearly all magazines are printed in 300ppi.

          So why sharper screens? It’s a pissing game. It looks better on paper and gives you bragging rights. The closer you hold the phone to your face (a healthy human eye can only focus as close as 4 inches in distance) the more ppi you need, but seriously? Don’t do that.. You’ll ruin your eyes and then you’ll be able to see just fine with even lower ppi than before.

    • Nobody Special

      I agree… the Vudu credit is only for the 2016 year. If T-Mobile want customers that have the original unlimited simple choice plan to keep binge on.. they have to treat us to another perk. But for 2017 i will be turning Binge On “OFF”.

  • JLV90

    I’m sure most users don’t even know the binge-on switch is there

    • noh1bvisas

      i had no idea. i never use binge on, though. the vid quality sucks.

      • marque2

        Said the Sprint network user, who doesn’t know and wants to score fake points.

        • noh1bvisas

          wwwwwhhhhhaaaaattttttt? obviously i have tmo. are you drunk?

        • marque2

          Of course you have TMo. So if that this is actually true, switch to Sprint, they will apparently treat you better. If you really have TMo noone is forcing you to stay. We aren’t a communist country yet.

        • noh1bvisas

          what made you think i was unhappy with tmo?

        • Fabian

          He’s most of the time defending T-Mobile. Now for one single comment that you don’t agree with he’s a hater or a Sprint employee?

      • Dominimmiv

        You must of pulled your hair out watching 240i VHS or 480i broadcast television on an analog screen 32″ in size. Assuming you were alive 15 years ago….Perspective

        • noh1bvisas

          i watched the 1st moon landing on a 19″ black and white portable as a child. LOL. we didn’t know any better.

  • Fabian

    Another 1% knew about binge on and leave it on, and the remaining 98% didn’t knew about binge on or didn’t know how to turn it off.

    • Dominimmiv

      Really? All these people never saw the insert in their bill via snail mail or the e-mails if they are paperless? They never saw the app in thier app drawer? Don’t have one single friend or relative that has T-Mobile? BS! My 76 year old MIL got the text message and understood what it meant and then checked with me about leaving it alone. I said yes.

      • Fabian Cortez

        Agreed 100%

  • dontsh00tmesanta

    We here are not the majority wr are the minority stfu

  • Bruce Wayne

    That’s because most people don’t even know it exists or if they do, they don’t know how to turn in off.

    Hell, I knew about it and I had to call customer support to turn it off because the website wasn’t working.

    • Prode

      100% agree. No one knows they even have it on and if they did know what it was, like you said they wouldn’t even know how to turn it off. All binge on is for is for t-mobile to save on data. I am not saying it doesn’t help some but that some is like maybe 20% of ppl.

      • Dominimmiv

        98.2 not 20. Sating the other 70% don’t know how to use a simple app is stretching it a bit.

    • Andrew Singleton

      You don’t get to just decide people’s motivations for doing or not doing things

      • Bruce Wayne

        Says the T-Mobile shill.

        • marque2

          No, I know how to turn it off, and keep it on on purpose. I don’t really see that much difference on the small phone, and it especially good on the kids phones since they stream a lot of video. Most of the complaints seem to be from non TM users. And if that is the case, just stick with your network and pay the overage charge, or don’t watch any videos on your phone.

        • Bruce Wayne

          Except, I’m a T-Mobile user…

        • Dominimmiv

          Then turn it off and enjoy your video at whatever resolution you want and be happy. I’ll (and the other 98.2%) will leave ours on. If the others can’t find it then most likely they wouldn’t know the difference anyway. If YOU don’t like it so be it. You telling everyone about it is talking to a wall. How about posting the instructions on how to turn it off and on for all of us idiots out here? That could be helpful for a few people.

        • Bruce Wayne

          Blah, blah, blah. I’ll post what I want to post. Don’t like what I have to say? Don’t read it.

        • Dominimmiv

          Same goes here… 2 way street.

      • Bruce Wayne

        That’s funny coming from a T-Mobile shill.

        • Andrew Singleton

          cool

  • Andrew Singleton

    Go find a high quality video on YouTube, where you can control the quality. Allow YT to climb to the highest available quality, and then switch to 480p. Am I alone in thinking that’s a pretty fair trade for unlimited streaming? It’s GREAT.

    • Dominimmiv

      Yes I agree.

    • Jimmy James

      How do switch to BingeOn instantly? I have never been able to switch from HD to BingeOn instantly. Takes a while for it to kick in or a phone reboot.

  • Jakewwa

    Can someone please explain what 600MHz is going to mean? Does everyone benefit from improved coverage, or is this for new markets?

    • Matt

      The lower the frequency the further the signal reaches and the better it penetrates buildings. T-mobile used to run 1900 mhz exclusively which is why coverage often was terrible in buildings. Now as they are moving to lower frequency the signal is getting better.

      • Frankenstu

        Yes, but only as a back up to the higher frequencies. As you go lower in the spectrum you get less bandwidth. So there is a trade-off, but along with the higher frequencies your phone will find the best and fastest band available.

        • Fabian

          If those bands are available, T-Mobile has doubled their coverage, as they say, mostly with 5Mbps of B12. We could call it: stretched thin coverage. 600mhz bands and more 700mhz are badly needed.

        • Jimmy James

          People don’t care about bandwidth who use BingeOn.

    • Jakewwa

      Does this mean we’ll need new phones that receive 600 MHz? Does this require Tmobile phone or do unlocked phones work too?

      • marque2

        You will probably need a new phone, but in two years time, you will probably want a new phone anyway.

        • Dominimmiv

          You WILL need a new phone from the one you have now just like when band 12 came out.

        • marque2

          I got my current phone to support 1900 MHz, but it also supports band 12 if they ever get it in San Diego. But again 2 years out, a three year old phone will feel pretty clunky, and TMo will offer ma y low cost options, like they did before the band 12 rollout. Some phones might already support it now, I don’t know, which is where “probably” came from.

        • a d00d

          There’s no real reason for new phones to feel “clunky” after a couple of years. It’s almost like planned obsolescence like the WinTel duopoly. Me, I put Linux on an old machine and it often runs BETTER than new (especially true of Vista and 8/10).

          But back to the parent questions: yes on both.

          1. You will need a new phone because it’s a new physical band. Simple enough.

          2. 600 vs 700 MHz coverage: that’s tougher to answer. For TMo, they have stated since Day 1 that 600 was primarily targeted at markets that they couldn’t get 700 (Band 12).

          Personally, I think they would be better off selling or swapping B12 to AT&T where they already have B17–they could then deploy 15 MHz B12 while TMo gets $$$ for more spectrum and newer radios–everyone wins! I don’t think this will happen, though.

  • FILA

    Thats because T made it impossible for average people to find where the damn switch is to turn off. Also people hear the advertisements but didnt know it was on by default and probably left wondering

    • davidgoldberger

      If you cannot find the switch on the site your probably not noticing the effect it is having on your mobile viewing experience anyways…

      • Dominimmiv

        Exactly. I find it hard to believe 99.2% can’t find the T-Mobile app or the BingeOn toggle, They just don’t care about 480p video on a mobile device pure and simple. Much prefer never having to constanttly worry about data overages.

      • Fabian

        Most people think something is wrong with the phone they got or that the service is bad, and then maybe they just go to facebook.

  • Jake Fitzpatrick

    Always wanted to be part of the 1%! I even feel rich just because i’m in “the club”. hehehehe.

  • For those grandfathered into the Unlimited Nationwide 4G LTE Data with 14GB of Hot Spot, Binge on is a bad deal.

    • Dominimmiv

      Turn it off.

      • No shit! I was merely pointing out that Binge On does nothing for those on unlimited plans, and it restricts. If you don’t turn it off, you’re a dumbass.

        • Dominimmiv

          For unlimited I agreed if it does nothing turn it off.

        • Calgrav24

          I have unlimited 4G and use binge on simply because it keeps me from hitting the 26 GB soft cap each month since video still doesn’t count as normal data. I am a heavy Netflix and YouTube user and will hit 26GB almost every month without binge on. Before when I would hit 26 GB the rest of the month would be around 0.5mbps or less sometimes and it is frustrating.

        • Dominimmiv

          Then it works for you as well as it does for me. ☺️ Its nice to have options.

        • Acdc1a

          Unless of course you’re a tethering dumbass. It’s always had its place.

    • Clearly we’re the minority. Plus, some of them might want the 1 free VUDU rental every month, or they might want to avoid the soft cap, or they might simply not know about it or how to turn it off.

      • SirStephenH

        I don’t really stream much over cellular these days so I keep it on for the monthly VUDU credit. I despise 480p though so if this changes it’s going off.

        Also they say “free rental” but the credit can be used for anything including purchases and disc to digital. We have 4 lines with Binge On that receive $3.99 credit each and unlike T-Mobile Tuesdays credits it can all be redeemed on the same VUDU account which brings our total to $11.96. Our library has exploded in size between the Binge On and T-Mobile Tuesdays credits.

  • I switch back and forth. Even though I have unlimited LTE, I like to try and leave BingeOn on so that I can play my part with respect to alleviating network congestion. The videos also load and cache quicker. However, occasionally I get really bad lag with my streams, such as when I’m watching a sporting event, and that forces me to shut it off, which returns the stream to normal. Why that would make a difference, I haven’t the slightest. You’d think if it were struggling to stream at 480p or less, that streaming it higher would make it worse. I also sometimes turn BingeOn off when I download one of my Google Play Movies.

  • Rob

    Since switching to ONE from my Simple Choice 6GB, I’ve actually found that for most sites, BingeOn works fine. Other sites, I have to use a workaround or the video just keeps buffering but overall I don’t mind BingeOn. Netflix works particularly well with it. YouTube tends to drop to 360p and I have to manually change it to 480p (360p IS very noticeable).

    Off topic but it appears T-Mobile is testing LTE-A in Colorado. My HTC 10 which is running the Europe unlocked ROM has switched to the 4G+ icon a few times this morning and the speeds were indeed doubled over the regular LTE speeds. Makes me even happier I got my plan switched to ONE.

    • Acdc1a

      I find it barely noticeable as well but I was using BingeOn anyway. I really enjoy the ONE plan because I don’t have to count data and it’s at a reasonable price.

      • Rob

        Yeah I’m paying 5 bucks a month more and the autopay doesn’t even come out until the bill is due so if there was actually an issue with my bill, I would have plenty of time to call and get it fixed before getting charged. It’s definitely worth it for me and the only time I need tethering is when the power goes out and 512kbps is fast enough for me to download a book on my Kindle Fire to read while I wait for the power to be fixed.

    • I live/work in DC, BingeOn actually makes the videos faster. I tried it both on and off. Sometimes, turning it off gives you better quality but most of the time, it takes longer to load.

      • Rob

        We don’t really have a congestion problem here. In the suburb I live in, I usually get 15-20Mbps during peak and 35-40Mbps off-peak and when I was downtown at the club a few weeks back I pulled 80 down. There are some sites that just won’t buffer for lower speed and are fixed at 720p that don’t work with BingeOn but I figured out a workaround for those situations (which I’m not disclosing because I don’t want T-Mobile to close the loophole) so it’s fine for me. Once I pay off my credit card, I may look at just paying the 20 bucks for totally unthrottled data because even with BingeOn I still used 9.1GB last month.

        • Jay Holm

          I have used far more than 9.1gb’s using the Netflix app alone! I don’t regard 10gb’s as a lot like so many others do. I work 3 night shifts a week, that’s when I watch a lot of Netflix.

        • Rob

          Well I managed to use 9.1GB despite the fact I am homebound and thus most video goes on my TV. Games and system updates eat bandwidth like mad.

  • Thenextmove

    https://youtu.be/XXbTtAHHr1I
    The difference between SD and HD

    • Rob

      The S7 Edge had WiFi on. You could see it at the end of the video.

      • Fabian

        He made me lose 2 minutes of my life. Didn’t saw the who 5 minutes video.

        I wonder how many are confusing WiFi video and Cellular video and think Binge On is okay.

    • This is meaningless. He was using a crappy camera and moving it. That’s a bottleneck.

      • Rob

        It’s also meaningless when you can clearly see the WiFi icon on the S7 Edge at the end of the video lol

        • Actually, no. A proper test would REQUIRE one phone on WiFi. If it was on LTE, you would have no way of knowing if Binge On was really disabled. That way anyone could claim “no difference” because there really would be no difference. The point of using WiFi is to have a non-480p sample to compare to Binge On’s 480p stream.

  • Bruce Wayne

    What is “that bad”?

    • marque2

      Apparently the video quality under Binge on.

      • Bruce Wayne

        And I called customer service to turn it off because the website wasn’t working.

  • Jimmy James

    I have a Galaxy 7. BingeOn does not look good, unless you don’t care about video quality, or have bad eyesight. Comparing pics or videos of BingeOn is not the same as eyesight, so don’t tell me about YouTube comparisons looking the same. Phone cameras are not as good as perfect eyesight. Let’s just go back to 2000 flip-phone quality, and save on battery life, since no one seems to care about HD. I’ve tried to use BingeOn to be nice to the network, but I have a horrible buffering issues with YouTube on BingeOn. Also, downloading files is very slow with BingeOn. You can tell me that’s not possible, but it is. I’ve permanently turned it off. I am finally a 1 percenter. Yes! I guess I am on T-Mobile’s s*** list now. Will probably start receiving emails to turn it on, or start having issues with all streaming apps, when they lower my speed before 25GB, and tell me that BingeOn will help.

    • SirStephenH

      “Also, downloading files is very slow with BingeOn. You can tell me that’s not possible, but it is. I’ve permanently turned it off.”

      Binge On throttles ALL video to 1.5Mbps and does this by inspecting data packets, not by recognizing a service partner. Because of this even video downloads are throttled. It shouldn’t effect other types of data though.

      • Jimmy James

        That makes sense. I thought it was recognizing a service partner.

        • SirStephenH

          That’s what most people think but it only checks the service partners for zero-rating data on the limited data plans. T-Mobile still hasn’t been very straightforward with Binge On.

  • Jimmy James

    I am a 4 year T-Mobile subscriber on unlimited. What kind of scam is this? You have to pay $25 extra for HD streaming? Why do they offer 1440×2560 phones at T-Mobile?
    “$3 HD Day Pass or the $25 T-Mobile One Plus plan to get HD video”
    I now feel T-Mobile is scamming customers into thinking they are getting the same service as AT&T, which is not true, if BingeOn is on by default, and they charge extra for HD. This some kind of net neutrality issue, if you can’t watch HD video until you pay up.

    • Rob

      The old unlimited plan was 95 dollars, the new unlimited plan is 70 with BingeOn or 95 without. Not to mention the new plan includes unlimited tethering instead of 14GB on the old when you buy the Plus package and has unlimited 512kbps tethering in the base package. It’s not a great deal for those on promo plans but it was enough for me to dump my 6GB Simple Choice. Hell autopay doesn’t even come out until the due date so I don’t even have to worry about billing issues. Bottom line is that since all video is throttled on this plan to 1.5Mbps, it’s not giving preferential treatment to anyone so it’s not a net neutrality violation. Offering full speed video plus full speed tethering for 25 dollars is reasonable.

      • Jimmy James

        Well, the unlimited tethering is nice, but defaulting people to 480p or less, seems sketchy, when they compare themselves to AT&T.

        • guest

          But at least they are being honest about it. Verizon/Netflix were throttling customers to like 320p without even telling them. Plus they still offer the full 4g LTE plans. *shrugs*

      • SirStephenH

        Net Neutrality also effects preferential treatment of one type of service or data over another. T-Mobile One prefers all data over video so Net Neutrality is still being violated.

    • Acdc1a

      It provides a less expensive unlimited choice to those who want it.

      • Jimmy James

        Then they shouldn’t compare themselves to AT&T or whoever then, as they are offering a lower quality of service as a base package, compared to AT&Ts base package.

  • theforevermachine

    good luck — getting into that top 1% is probably* infinitely more difficult if you are not born into wealth from the get-go!

  • Jason Crumbley

    I am part of the less than 1%. I am also still on the $70 unlimited 4G plan.