Bernie Sanders weighs in on the matter of T-Mobile and unions

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T-Mobile has been the target of criticism from several labor groups lately, and this week the subject of unions is in the news.

In a statement to InsideSources, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders haas touched on the recent labor and union news surrounding T-Mobile. “T-Mobile’s repeated labor law violations and anti-union activities are particularly troubling given the long history of its parent company in Germany of respecting worker rights,” the presidential candidate said. “In my view, we have got to make it easier, not harder, for workers at T-Mobile to form a union and collectively bargain for better wages and benefits.”

The report continues with quotes from parent company Deutsche Telekom regarding T-Mo US’s labor practices. DT told InsideSources that it “takes its responsibility with regard to the working conditions of our employees very seriously” and that, after examining the working conditions at T-Mobile US, it found that “there are no indications to suggest that TMUS (T-Mobile US) managers would prohibit union activities.”

T-Mobile itself says that it abolished its rules blocking employees from talking about wages and internal investigations after last year’s NLRB ruling.

The rest of the report goes on to detail the recent criticisms that T-Mobile has faced, like accusations of deceptive advertising that say that its “no contract” claims are misleading because T-Mo sells handsets with equipment installment plans that require a customer pay the remaining balance of a phone if they end service before their device is paid off. Also mentioned are reports of similar to past claims of “intense pressure” being put on customer care reps.

Via: Huffington Post
Source: InsideSources

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  • JoeyKhache

    The company really is a bad place for reps at the moment. .

    • Ggisler

      I don’t know what store you worked at or if you worked for a third party but that is just a bad manager. I have worked for the company for two years and i love it. Could the hourly be better yea… But they comoensate you very well. The benefits are better than any of the last three sales companies i have worked for. I am sorry for your experience. But that is not how 90 percent of T-Mobe works

      • JoeyKhache

        I worked for corporate.

        • Ggisler

          Well for that i am sorry. But that is a manager not a company. I am sorry you had a bad experience. And truly hope you love what you do now.

    • You can’t make such a broad statement like that without backing up your claim! Prove it!

    • Metro

      Try moving to Metro. :D

    • Jay Gee

      No it’s not. Employee surveys all say different.

  • JoeyKhache

    .

  • Dlc

    I worked for tmobile in the past had to resign die to personal issues, I came back, it is a great company to work for

    • Acdc1a

      And that’s the opinion of everyone I know who works there.

  • TBD

    I like Bernie but disagree with his statement completely. I’ve worked in several call centers and the work is definitely not for everyone and that is why they pay well. Many people start call center work seeing the great pay and benefits but dont realize it’s way more than sitting at a desk talking on the phone & requires a lot of development, fine tuning and is constantly changing. When they get the reality slap of how hard the work is they don’t want to give up the pay/benefits but are failing at the job & the unions are feeding off these people and make everything an issue. As a current employee I can say TMO already pays very well, gives great benefits, employee stock grants and more so there is no need for a union as we are treated fairly. There are programs for top performers where they work directly with our CEO and VPs on how to improve the company. There are trips awarded to Hollywood, Las Vegas & Hawaii for to performers. There is a ton more the company does to make work more tolerable. I’ve seen the propaganda the unions are attempting and it’s ridiculous and pathetic. Last thing I want is a union or their dues coming out of my paycheck, they are targeting TMO so they can grow their own business and make money off us employees & TMO which in turn will raise cost to customers as well. Bernie needs to understand the full story and not just believe the smoke the union is creating to get their foot in the door. This union is just a parasite

    • 9to5Slavery

      you wrote so much i will give you a thumbs up. didn’t even read it.

    • bciocco

      Unions protect the jobs of nonperforming employees, making good employees work harder to pick up the slack.

    • Acdc1a

      It’s very difficult to be pro Bernie and anti-union. Listen, I like anyone outside of the establishment who will speak their minds. That said, you cannot have these kinds of vast differences of opinion and support them. Like is different than support so I guess you did say that…

      • John Doe

        It depends of the issues each individual cares about. If I am against Unions and that is my number 1 priority then I wouldn’t vote for Bernie but NO candidate is perfect and NO candidate will be able to please everyone.

    • Windycity

      how much were you paid to type it? $12 an hour is a good pay?

      • Jay Gee

        You may start at 12 an hour, however, you have yet to factor in Bonus, Tuition Assistance, Stock Grants, etc….When you factor in total pay, no one at T-Mobile is making just $12 an hour. And for a starting job, $12 ain’t too bad. You aren’t supposed to stay at $12 though if that’s what you started at. If you aren’t getting raises, that probably means you aren’t a great performer getting bonus too, Step your game up!

        • windycity301

          the wages that they are paying now don’t even come close to the living wage and you know it. they had all the perks you are taking about 15 years ago and paid $12 hour too. Look at the salary of the top management 15 years ago and compar it to now. corporations are hauling in record profits but don’t raise wages except for the top bosses. $12 an hour even with all the benefits puts you at the poverty level in this country. as long as people will accept this kind of wage, dont accept them to go up. i don’t mind when a bad employee gets fired that is fair, But paying $12 an hour wage will not attract a good employee who will care to stay at the job.

  • Daniel

    I’m a fan of both Bernie and T-Mobile. Going to side with Bernie on this one tho. I don’t think he will get the nomination, but I love how he wants to go after corporate America and make them put the working class first. T-Mobile isn’t the only company he has called out. He has to Verizon, Boeing, GE, and others as well. Will be interesting to see if John will comment on this.

    • Gavin

      Working class is definitely first on Bernies list! That is who he needs to tax to pay for his socialist agenda. Take from the hard working to give to those who want free hand outs.

      • aggiefather

        Regarding Bernie: To paraphrase Margaret Thatcher, “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.”

        • Bradley Karas

          Love this quote!!!!

        • Daniel

          When the lower and middle class have more money, they buy more which stimulates the economy. When the top 1% is given massive tax breaks and loopholes they store their money overseas. “Trickle down economics” does not work.

        • Ordeith

          When people have more purchasing power they may buy more. More money isn’t a panacea. Too much “more money” causes inflation, which devalues currency, which hurts buying power and the economy. Raising minimum wage to give people “more money” has a similar inflationary effect as the cost of goods and services rise to cover the increased cost of labor. It also creates wage compression and severely devalues the contributions of anyone that has worked themselves to an earning position that is anywhere above minimum wage.
          Bernie supporters don’t understand basic economics. At all.

        • Acdc1a

          Again…it’s a generational thing. When you grow up with everything handed to you and spoon fed to you, it must continue.

        • Daniel

          Wow. Quite a judgement there. I was actually raised a very hard worker. But I will leave you to your assumptions.

        • Acdc1a

          If you were raised a hard worker you wouldn’t be running around with your hand out…or you have some disappointed parents out there.

        • Daniel

          I simply would like the US to catch up to the rest of the developed world. That doesn’t make me lazy at all. The idea that progressives are lazy is a false generalization often made by conservatives. I know know people on food stamps who for some reason vote Republican. In areas of the world like Scandinavia they have tuition free college and universal healthcare. Are they lazy? No, they understand fair distribution of wealth in a way that benifits the working class. I’m not saying they are perfect, but they do a better job than we do.

        • Daniel

          So far 170 economists have endorsed his proposals. And yes inflation does happen. Not going to deny that. Overal working families would be much better off under a Sanders administration (assuming he could get his policies passed.)

        • Ordeith

          So far 170 economists have proven they don’t deserve the title.

        • Daniel

          Yes. Nobody’s views are valid if they don’t aline with your’s.

        • Ordeith

          That does seem to be your general attitude.

        • Daniel

          It’s called substantive debate

        • Ordeith

          uh, ditto. :p

      • Daniel

        You clearly haven’t read his tax proposals.

        • Gavin

          I have actually. Combine that with his “free free free” campaign and admitting he is a socialist, he would be a disaster for everyone except those who seek to live off the government, such as yourself.

        • Daniel

          Funny. It was the socialist policies of FDR that brought us back from the Great Depression. It was lack of proper regulations on Wall Street that caused the 2008 recession. Capitalism has to have limits in order to work for everyone.

        • Ordeith

          It was the industrial kick start needed to support a World War that brought us back from the Great Depression.

    • RLB63

      Hillary had most of the super delegates locked up. Democratic party does things differently than the Republicans. Elected officials have a major say on who gets elected almost equal to the voters. She could lock up the nomination in less than 2 weeks.

      He doesn’t have much of a chance in the regular election either against any Republican. The government is do deep in debt that we can’t afford universal health care or college for everyone. Those are the 2 fastest raising costs in the USA. Far far out stripping inflation. If government got imore nvolved they would just sky rocket. They sound great. Just when you give people unlimited funds costs sky rocket.

      • Daniel

        I agree that Hillary will most likely get the nomination but disagree with the rest of your comment. National polls show Bernie performs better in general election match ups than Hillary because he gets more independent voters. And Universal Healthcare isn’t free healthcare. What happens is private insurance primiums get eliminated and then households simply pay 2.2% more in taxes while their employer pays the other 6.2%. This will save the average middle class family $5000 a year. As for tuition free college, that is paid for by a tax on Wall Street speculation. When Wall Street crashed in 2008, the middle class bailed them out. Today most of the financial institutions on Wall Street are larger than when we bailed them out. It is time for Wall Street to help the middle class. And these are not radical ideas at all. Most of the developed world has universal healthcare and either tuition free or affordable college. I will say Bernie won’t be able to get much done if the Dems don’t take back congress.

        • Gregory

          Or you could maybe get off your *** and go work and pay for it like most normal people do?

        • Daniel

          You clearly know nothing about me…

        • Acdc1a

          “As for tuition free college, that is paid for by a tax on Wall Street speculation.”

          Correct, see my prior comment…anything given to you for free by the government is TAKEN from someone else. What happens when you run out of people to take from?

        • Daniel

          If you think closing tax loopholes and issuing a speculation tax on Wall Street will make them run out of money you don’t understand economics at all.

        • Acdc1a

          Without those loopholes there wouldn’t be corporations based in the US at all. You understand that the US corporate tax rate is 39%? Of course you don’t because you don’t own a business. That is the HIGHEST TAX RATE IN THE WORLD!

    • Acdc1a

      I’m afraid it’s mutually exclusive. You cannot tax some entity to death, force them to provide more than the market for labor, and expect them to thrive. Nothing’s free in this life…and anything given to you free by the government must first be TAKEN from someone else.

      • Android_God

        Like how companies take by setting up b******* corporate locations in Ireland? They want the tax rate of a s***** country with all the luxuries that the US provides for them

        • Acdc1a

          Why would we want to make it comfortable for them to leave?

      • Steve Hester

        Concur – if government makes it impossible for a business to make a profit, the business will withdraw from the market. You can’t force them to stay. So then those workers are all without work/income. TMUS parent has been clear, if the business is profitable, they are happy, when they are not, they look to exit the market.

      • Adam

        Bernie’s plan does have a major flaw, but that flaw is not wealth redistribution. Currently, we already have massive amounts of wealth redistribution going on: medicare, social security, Federal Reserve, but you rarely hear people complaining about those redistributions.

        Instead, to find the problem with Bernie’s plan, look at AT&T. Monopolies bread inefficiencies. Could you imagine if there was a law that we all had to use AT&T? Even if AT&T was a non-profit, they would still have low quality at a high price.

        I see Bernie as the lessor of the current 5 evils, rather than outright support.

        • Acdc1a

          Unfortunately under Bernie’s plans, that’s what happens. The government tells the “greedy” companies how to behave until they’re gone and then you only have a single provider.

      • Daniel

        Someone’s been watching Fox News…

        • Dave

          It’s called basic economics.

        • Acdc1a

          Agree with Dave. Someone owns a business and doesn’t have time to watch the two idiot channels…being Fox news and MSNBC.

  • donnybee

    If Bernie doesn’t like it, TMUS should take that as a compliment.

  • vinnyjr

    Find it amazing that people buy a very expensive device and think they won’t half to pay for it if they leave T-Mobile. Customers get 20 days to decide if T-Mobile has solid coverage in your area, if not send it back and no charge. If you keep it and after 3 months you decide you don’t want that new phone or stay with T-Mobile what the hell do think any US Carrier would do, They’ll make you pay for that expensive phone. People have the balls to complain about a company going after they’re dead beat customers. I’ve had the best experience with T-Mobile, strongest signal, Fastest Data speeds, great customer service and the best damn plans of any Carrier. Thank You T-Mobile, Thank You John Legere.

  • Quailallstar

    Crazy socialist. Needs to move to Cuba or Europe.

  • VoteAgainstSocialism

    If T-mobile ain’t broke (and it ain’t) DON’T fix it Bernie! For the last 4 years T-mobile has grown very well. Wouldn’t want another socialist to ruin what good is left.

  • Freedom of Speech…

    Simply said, as Americans, we do have Freedom of Speech, options And above all, we can agree to disagree.

  • Acdc1a

    Earn your chair/position/money is how any sales position works. I own a business with limited office space and resources, so if you have a desk here, you’d better work to keep it…

  • Max

    My wife worked for T-Mobile for 20 yrs and was let go for some shit that they made up to get her out the door the Gm did not like her you would think that John L would look in this and go talk the the employees at Chattanooga call center

    • Bradley Karas

      Unfortunately that’s the downfall of “at Will employment”

    • RLB63

      Well have you tried to send an email to the presidents office? At least someone higher up might look into it. Especially if she has 18 years of God good reviews.

      • Max

        Thanks RLB63
        And yes she did send an email to the president, who didn’t even have the decency to respond.

    • Jay Gee

      There are too many checks and balances for that to be true. That may be the story you heard, but there are a lot of steps in the process of terminating someone. There is a calibration between operations and Human Resources. It’s not just one person snapping their fingers, and it’s not just over 1 incident either.

      • Max

        Not true!
        When you have an HR manager that says she is there to protect the GM.
        And the GM tells the AD to find a reason to get rid of her.

  • NardVa

    Companies in general are greedy at the top. They want to squeeze the people at the bottom with low unfair wages while the CEO, COO, VP and President collect nice bonuses and raises year over year. John Legere got about 20 million last year. I’m pretty sure some of that 20 million could have funded one of several call centers that was shut down in 2015. That’s how you look out for the little people at the bottom who help make your company successful.

    • Ordeith

      You can’t eliminate the world’s poor by eliminating the wealthy. The math doesn’t work.

    • RLB63

      Yes I agree that ceos make way to much.
      However, unions in a lot of industries don’t do much. Except charge union dues and make their employees rich.

    • Jay Gee

      No Call Center was shut down in 2015. If you look at any Call Center and factor in Bonus Potential, Stock Grants, Benefits, etc…T-Mobile pays a great wage. Legere makes what a CEO should make of a company producing the type of results that T-Mobile is. He works round the clock. That’s not even a realistic thought process

    • Jay Gee

      I’d also encourage you to do some research on what the top leaders in the CWA make. They aren’t a non-profit and their leadership is making money too…the difference is…They’re making YOUR money off false promises and guarantees that they actually can’t do.

  • Mike

    Somewhere somebody is unhappy with TMO and has called in the Union. There are strict rules about how and when Unions can try to get into a workplace. I recall we could not even sell Girl Scout cookies at work as it was “solicitation”. If “solicitation” was allowed it opened the door for Unions to solicit employees as the walked to the parking lot. It only takes a handful of pissed of employees to open the door for a union vote may have less to do with poor working conditions/pay/benefits etc. than a few loud mouth angry workers.

  • Bradley Karas

    Free schooling, free health care, free cell phones, free everything and make someone else pay for it!!!! Said every socialist ever!!!

    • Free, Free

      Free air, water, trees, flowers, earth, sun, moon and stars…free, free, free!

    • Medion

      That’s quite a leap from this article. When you can’t criticized what was really said… make something up?

      • RLB63

        Are you under the illusion that isn’t supported by Bernie?

        He wants universal healthcare, and free college. We already have Obama phones.

        • Medion

          My point was that wasn’t the topic of the article. There was no need for the leap.

          And there is no such thing as an Obama phone. That program of free/subsidized phones from the government started under Bush in 2008. So if you want me to even consider your political views, get your facts straight.

    • Jay Gee

      Interestingly enough, T-Mobile has a great tuition assistance program and through a great university has a Leadership Development Grant that will pay for all of their employees’ education. They have world-class benefits that aren’t expensive. Great PTO, and a 75% discount off of phone plans. There is absolutely nothing a Union would do to better what they already provide their employees.

  • Christopher Olson

    Thanks Bernie because what the economy needs is more unions bargaining for benefits industries can’t support.

    • Christopher Olson

      This how we get jobs outsourced to Mexico and Asian countries.

  • DayDream

    Sounds like the ol’ Bern is working for Ma Bell and Verizon. Tmobile has finally brought real competition to a bully market at the benefit of consumers. Remember $$$$ ridiculous phone bills in the 90s for “minutes?” and $$$$ insane phone bills in the 00s for “text” which are much more network efficient and cheaper than voice, and now data is their new teat to milk.

    Finally actual phone prices are up front and easy to decipher from the bill and plan. No contract means I can change my plan on the fly, or cancel it even. Separate from the no interest loan on hardware. Please Bern why guise helping lower income while actually hurting them.

    Before this “no contract” carrier movement, carriers disguised their hardware(your phone) price into every monthly plan. You would have paid doubled for your phone before you were eligible for an upgrade. I guess they’re still mad about loosing that teat.

    • Android_God

      Not everything is a conspiracy.

      • BreakingData

        Agreed

    • Dylan Wentworth

      Thanks to open secrets you can see who his donors are. I didn’t see dumb and dumber on there.
      The latter part of your comment has nothing to do with the labor dispute

    • Daniel

      Bernie lead a protest against Verizon for workers rights in NYC last year. He isn’t picking on T-Mobile.

  • LOLZ

    Dear God, STOPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!! Everyone is always looking to complain about something! I worked at T-Mobile for 7 years without a union (in some of their worst times as far as quality is concerned) but they have always been great to their employees. The benefits are amazing (health care especially, I worked another year there with another full-time job soley because their HC benefits were way better than my job at a HOSPITAL) and the pay is phenomenal compared to others in the industry with both hourly and commission (and there are no minimum performance req to get that commission like other carriers). Part-time I have walked away with close to six figures while going to school! But you have to bust your ass to get the customers needed to make those numbers. People that complain and ask for more are just lazy and you probably couldn’t make it at any other carrier with increasingly strict performance guidelines. If specific leadership is an issue, contact HR to get them removed if they are treating you unfairly because there is no place for that behavior in any industry.

  • guest

    I don’t know how T-Mobile treats it’s employees nor I know if what the Unions claim about T-Mobile is truth or not, because it could just be way to pressure T-Mobile.

    Yet basic logic tells me that either T-Mobile employees don’t want to be unionized or T-Mobile is preventing them from being unionized, I don’t see a third variant.

    But having said that and accepting the idea that employees should have the right to organize, I think organizing shouldn’t mean becoming affiliated to an outside entity, unless maybe if they are employees to a small company, and companies should have the right to fire employees if they are just creating trouble.

    These days unions should be about fair and equal treatment, workplace safety, things like that and not about collective bargaining or equal pay, because that should be determined by your performance and the marketplace.

    If you want higher paying jobs don’t buy products made in distant places, buy regional, oppose the so called “Free Trade Agreements”, oppose the TPP. I don’t think the battle for higher paying jobs is at T-Mobile.

    Has Bernie Sanders said anything about the TPP? I don’t know.

    • Dylan Wentworth

      A lot of what consumers buy that is imported isn’t made in America and if it is, they are raw materials that the consumer has no control over. Back to the drawing board on that one

  • Adam

    Especially in my state, where it you leave a cup outside during a rain storm, you are breaking the law if you take a drink.

  • Acdc1a

    That’s right because as a salesperson you are. It’s just business. You will earn an above average income, but you will have below average working conditions and you’d better perform above average.

  • JoeBlob

    I’m middle classed, a Bernie Sanders fan; but also employed with T-Mobile USA for 11 years now and am very happy with how I have been treated, and equally happy with my pay and benefits… This is especially true compared with my nightmare of a union job (same technical role) with Quest about 15 years back…

    • Acdc1a

      Time to re-evaluate…look outside of the 2 major parties.

      • Ordeith

        John McAfee would make an entertaining president, for sure.
        But a good one? That’s doubtful.

  • Ordeith

    Unions are an antiquated albatross that only look to fatten themselves off the work of others.

    • Mike

      And what does the company do ? The same thing

      • Ordeith

        not even close to the same.

      • Acdc1a

        I’m afraid you’re mistaken. The company exists to serve their customers and shareholders. The union exists to serve the union.

        • Mike

          you forgot the employee’s

        • Ordeith

          the employee’s what? I assume you used the possessive for a reason, but you need to follow it with a noun at some point.

    • TBN27

      Not true. I know for s fact where I work that if we didn’t have a union, my employer would have a field day with firing us for all their wrongs. Unions are what people make of it also. If nobody bands together and continue on selfish agendas then unions won’t be effective. But if they do unite especially under unions, things get done to help out the employees .

      • Ordeith

        A failing company doesn’t help it’s employees. I have been affected by far too many personal experiences of Unions literally destroying companies with their never ending demands and consequential loss of labor productivity. An out of business company helps no one.

        • Ken Kaniff

          Don’t forget how unions force employees to pay “union fees,” regardless of whether or not they want to be a part of the union. It is all too similar to paying the mob for “protection.”

        • Ordeith

          Protection is exactly what it is. I remember a new business moving into town, they were non union in an industry that is heavily unionized locally. The Unions didn’t want the risk of a successful, non union, shop weakening the stranglehold they had on businesses in that sector. So despite the fact that employees were well compensated and generally happy working for the company the Unions began a campaign of harassment and misinformation to drive the business out of town.
          Sadly, they were successful, and the business left. The former employees of that company aren’t too fond of Unions, either.

        • TBN27

          Well I don’t mind paying for it. My union has helped me when I was wronged by my employer. To to each is own. If the union dues helps them do what they do to protect my job from false accusations and bending rules that my employer set for us and try to change it when they are caught up in their own rule, then buy all means they deserve my 28 dollars every 2 weeks.

        • TBN27

          Okay so your company that you worked for went out of business because of unions you are saying. Sorry that happened to you but that right there doesn’t happen to a lot of businesses. who I worked for years ago went out of business because the competition kicked their behinds and they were losing mine hand over fist and it wasn’t unionized.

        • Ordeith

          The competition can do better, but competitiveness is only hindered by unions. If a unionized company finds success it’s in spite of the union, not because of it.

      • Nash

        Funny how Ford Motor is sending tons of jobs to Mexico because their union workers want more and more. Unions promote ridiculous pay and drive out fair market competition. Won’t be long before jobs start drying up again.

        • Jay Gee

          Bingo Bango

        • TBN27

          I find it ridiculous that it is unions that make manufacturers run to Mexico for cheaper labor when it is more about cost and exchange rates that makes a specific decision for building certain models in Mexico. And if that was the case then why did ford and GM for that matter added more union jobs in the states meanwhile keeping their long time existing plants in Mexico? And to further drive my point, the HVAC company Carrier, which I have been told isn’t unionized is losing their jobs to Mexico to stay competitive in HVAC market. Google and new owner Lenovo shut down a non unionized Motorola plant because the Moro X wasn’t selling well. They sound more like business decisions based on profits than the type of workers he they have. How is that unions forcing companies overseas? And unions are asking for reducilous wages? Wrong again. I don’t see wrong by in asking for s decent livable wage to keep up with cost of living and the type of work in industrial blue collar titles of manufacturing cars, trains, trucks, and, transportation. Many places may not need unions if they treat their workers well but to say that unions are useless is to broad of a statement. If you were to work where I do in the transportation industry, you would be singing a different tune.

        • Ordeith

          A universal “Living Wage” is a myth. Or do you not know what the largest contributor to cost of living increases is?

        • Acdc1a

          You have to give a better hint to this generation…they don’t know.

        • TBN27

          Many things drives up the costs. The cost of Materials usedto build things has gone up, I know gentrification had driven up the cost of renting or owning s home in my area. But it is funny you say a living wage is a myth. I know for sure that if I didn’t make what I did for what i do that I couldn’t afford to rent for this apartment they i am in now. I would have to move in with a friend or live out of my car. And moving out of where I live far away would not help my getting to work. So thank goodness for my liveable wage that helps me pay my rent while it is still reasonable put food on my table. If I were flipping burgers I wouldn’t expect this but I am doing way more then flipping burgers and the living wage I get paid reflects it.

        • Ordeith

          I said a universal “living wage” is a myth. Your personal living wage is not an example of a universal one, and millions of people have to work for pennies a day to support that living wage of yours.
          I bet you don’t understand what the largest contributor to cost of materials increases is, either.

        • TBN27

          Yeah sure. There are other places it has been achieved but here it would be considered socialist I guess but yeah i don’t seem to understand.

        • Ordeith

          It isn’t achievable. Stop fantasizing and enter reality.

        • TBN27

          I am in reality. It works well in Sweden, Norway, Denmark where I have seen it. I guess reality here is different.

        • Ordeith

          You have a strange definition of “works well”. Equal misery, perhaps?
          Every country you mentioned is having motivational issues for the next generation. No one wants to do anything “hard” if they won’t get any kind of real return for it.

          There are also still millions of people making pennies a day to sustain that “living wage” of theirs. The only thing that keeps products affordable under such cost of labor increases is to outsource the labor to areas with lower costs. That Sweden unemployment rate might be a great reflection of that particular reality.

        • Abhi

          Regardless of unions that was going to happen, NAFTA is one example of why that is. Unless you believe workers here can survive or compete with the manufacturing wages paid in places like Mexico or China, you have to take in to account the the cost of living differences and some other factors as well.

        • Your Mi Boy Blu

          Yeah, but one thing you have to remember- phone service is real, real cheap once the wire is in the ground.

          The most expensive portion of the work is having to learn how to smile when they come to pay a bill,

      • Jay Gee

        Yeah…Unions really worked well for manufacturing, Airlines, automotive, etc… Go to Detroit and see how well Unions helped that city. Or Pittsburgh

        • TBN27

          So since when did unions spark free trade agreements that ruined our manufacturing that turned Pittsburgh and Detroit in their heads because of not having other industries besides manufacturing?

  • Bajamin

    I worked at T-Mobile for years, even went through the ATT buyout stuff. They always treated me well. I never saw evidence of employees being treated like crap. If anything, store managers did what they could to accommodate schedules. The benefits and pay were pretty damn good on the retail side, and on the business side they were fantastic.

  • GinaDee

    Bernie is looking for Union support since the big unions haven’t officially endorsed either himself or Hillary for the next POTUS. Most assume they’ll go for Hillary but they haven’t made anything official yet.

    I think this is all there is to this story.

    • Josh McDaniel

      Hillary got endorsed by our union SMART. Which is a pretty big Union.

  • Adelino

    I worked at ATT Wireless when it was owned by the original ATT and then when they were spun off then they were bought by Cingular who was then bought out entirely by SW Bell who then bought the mother ship ATT and quickly changed their name to ATT. After we were changed to Cingular we were treated like poo. I was quitting anyway in 18 months for personal reasons and my friends were all happy as could be at ATT. When Cingular took over they treated us horribly, we fell under Union rules whether we were in UNION or not. My pay was 154% of the maximum pay that the Union had negotiated for my position, I would not receive a pay cut but I would never get a raise, they also eliminated bonuses, became very adversarial. 10% of my Human Resources friends left because they did nto want to treat people the new way. In the 18 months that I stayed there (planned departure for personal reasons) MOST of my friends who were happy before (as I was) left before me. I stuck it out and said good riddance. I thought I would miss it but they made it easy. I work at T-Mob now and it is much better. pay, casual attitudes, the metrics are more of a constant drum beat though (that could be part of the newer management style of turning workers to robots though I have been told that metrics dominate all forms of jobs now to a greater extent than 10-15 years ago). So I have three anecdotal experiences to go buy but of course that does not mean that the Union was the only difference. Original ATT with no union (BTW John Legere was an officer at the time that it was awesome) was great place to work, Cingular/SW Bell/ New ATT sucked bad, worst 18 working months of my work life, that was with Union, T Mob now is excellent. I have my complaints but I do have to say that it seems as if most or a lot of time when I think “this sucks” about some policy they improve it within time. They do have high metric standards and lots of them and I have seen good people fired for missing metrics even though they are excellent employees.

    That’s my experience in the matter.

    • Acdc1a

      You worked at ATTWS when I did. Great experience…UNTIL…

  • badassn

    I’m pretty convinced that all of the commenters here are either T-mobile employees or deluded fanboys. You guys literally choose T-Mobile over anything, whether it is a politician, a government agency, a consumer rights group, a famed University, the Pope, or even God.

    • jefferywilliams

      GOD?? LMAO.. Oh boy one of those. And I for one and I can’t speak for others have used all the carriers and others recently do to work. TMO is by far the best. Best customer service, the data speeds are sickening fast. And basic call / text functionality never had a problem. I choose TMO because it is a great company to do business with.. Now back to church with you I sense you need a little more programming.

      • badassn

        I’m not a Christian, I’m a software engineer, and I have been a T-mobile subscriber for 8 years. You are an idiot.

    • Jay Gee

      I would hope T-Mobile employees would comment on an article that has to do with being a T-Mobile employee…..Duuuuuuuuhhhh! Who the hell else should comment? That was a dumb statement. And yes, a T-Mobile employee has a reason to be happy about T-mobile and be “fan boys” of T-Mobile. They are one of the greatest employers to work for!

  • Josh McDaniel

    I work for Union Pacifc and our union is worthless, at least at my terminal. They care about no one but the old heads. Young guys are just walked over and spit on. It’s ridiculous and sad.

    • jefferywilliams

      You do know that Unions are simply there to make money don’t you? I mean back when guys were just block heards; back in the rockefeller days you needed a Union because there was no work and people would work for a dollar a day. I mean the human race itself was so simple minded back then.. Today we have open commerce and companies compete with each other to get the best workers. You can not use your own brain to negotiate and secure a position that meets with your expectations.

  • E.J.

    This is absolutely ridiculous!! I am a current employee (not management) and this is one of the best places to work for. The benefits are crazy good and far beyond most companies out there. We have a former AT&T employee that works with us now and he has told me on several occasions how horrible AT&T treats their employees!! And the pay here is nearly double what he made at AT&T. I can say for all of the employees that i have ever met, that we all truly enjoy coming to work. Most people cannot say such things. What company can you say gives you full benefits after only 30 days of employment (not the normal 90 days)???? Yeah exactly next to none. Its truly a fun working environment and the fact that our CEO John Legere is an inspiring CEO that speaks to his employees with respect and dignity, really makes us feel special. He is a tremendous leader for the people of this company. Most, if not all CEO’s Heads are so far up their own butt, that they can careless about their employees and care more about their big fat paychecks and bonuses, but not John Legere, he has really helped this company go in the right direction and his goals are even better. Bernie sanders needs to concentrate on his campaign and not try to make us look bad for no reason. I love my job and my 4 years of employment will continue with great joy. I’m glad that some posts here are either current employees or former and understand how good it is to work here. No need for unions here.

    • IN THE KNOW

      you must have just started working at t-mobile in the last year or so. i am an ex employee who moved on to better things on my own accord because of how T-Mobile operates. they give you benefits at 30 days because they have to because they have such a high turnover rate in T-Mobile Call centers. this wonderful CEO you speak of 2 years ago didn’t give any customer care representatives, seniors or coach positions raises but increased his salary that year and made 40 Million. he is nothing more then a very highly paid actor. everything he says is to get headlines and hes good at getting fools to like him. i give John Legere all the credit in the world at executing his role and i would know i was apart of executive customer relations before i left and have had numerous meetings with him. the truth is the Uncarrier movement was all in place when Jim Ailing was interim CEO. this was not the brainchild of John Legere. All the credit should go to the marketing team and whoever thought up the made up character that is John Legere.

      • jefferywilliams

        Made up or not I can tell you as a customer; I could not be happier. AND all the employees I have come in contact with all say they love the company. I am not suggesting that SOME employees don’t like working for TMO, any company will have that. I wonder with so many happy employees if the a good percentage of the unhappy are disgruntled because they are not effective at their jobs and are angered when called out on it; just to later disparage the company.

        • Jay Gee

          Those that are unhappy are primarily made up of people who would be unhappy at any job, because they think they know better than their supervisors and don’t apply feedback given to make them better. The dissatisfied are usually those not performing, or who have poor attendance. They supplement their income by being paid union goons

      • Jay Gee

        Continue to live in the past man. Legere is a great representation of T-Mobile. Ailing didn’t come up with Uncarrier, and that was longer than 2 years ago. Legere came on board 3 years ago. Ailing was after the whole Philip Humm fiasco where we were bleeding customers. Coincidentally, that’s also the time all this Union hoopla started too because it was a tough place to work. Legere has made this company better. You can call it what you want, but the facts remain. The reason why raises weren’t given out to begin with in 2013 were because of the disaster that was made in 2012 with Humm & Ailing at the helm. That being said, raises were eventually given in 2013, along with a kickass stock grant for all active employees. It only got better from there. Sounds like someone is bitter. Grow up and move on!

        • De

          Agreed! Legere turned T-Mobile into a household name when it was merely a back of the shelf at the thrift store Humm drove it into then skipped town when he couldn’t get results.

      • tomahawk_3

        Bullshit! I have been here for 11+ years and it’s a great company and even better with Legere. I have received better bonuses and pay raises ever since he has been on board. I have been through the ups and downs and am still thrilled to work for such a great company. I have no idea where you get your BS info. You just sound bitter

      • Your Mi Boy Blu

        I can confirm that. Un-carrier started around 2006. It was all planned out well before the AT&T T-Mobile attempted merger.

        Alling is now at Tom’s Shoes; which oddly enough, is on the same city block as Red Bull.

    • jefferywilliams

      Thank you for posting this. I have been a TMO customer for 13 years. I have had countless enjoyable conversations with Call center staff and have come to know the team at the store I go to very well. They are all very happy and I could not be happier being a customer. TMO is not just a phone company but practically a movement LOL.. You feel like you are a part of something; and with Legere at the helm things have only gotten better.

    • De

      Also a current employee. While occasionally stressful the micromanagement of metrics (retail), I completely disagree with the union. Benefits (health, dental, vision) are some of the best and have not increased in the last 3 years I have had them. They do tuition reimbursement. Wages are competitive. Schedule is fairly flexible, I enjoy rapid PTO accrual due to my tenure. Unions are a joke (I have seen what it does at Delta, United, etc.)

      • De

        Also worthy to note, those of us that stood by TMUS while it was ugly time (cough the German CEO days) and the merger failed, we got some great stock equity. We continue to get stock equity as bonus for a job well done.

        • TMUS

          You get stock equity because the company reduced pay raises!!!

        • Your Mi Boy Blu

          You got stock because there was no other way to keep the valuable employees from quitting. Look at it this way- stock is like cash, which the company can legally print.

          It works like an I.O.U. which the company has given you.

          Stock was issued after the US economy weakened, Insurance companies were not issuing “Corporate-Owned Life Insurance” sometimes referred to as “Dead Peasants Insurance”. T-Mobile took one of these plans out on me.

          How it worked is like this- TMobile would buy a $5M insurance plan; get cash up to 90% of the face value of the plan; then make $20-$25 monthly insurance payments until I die.

          In 2006 and later, T-Mobile’s business credit wasn’t good and the company couldn’t access the commercial paper market or even insurance like this as a form of funding the business. It’s only other option was to issue loans to its employees in the form of stock. That freed up cash to be invested and spent elsewhere.

    • Demandred22

      I’m a union employee and I get health benefits on day 1, including 401K with a very generous company match.

      You may not like unions, and that’s fine, but not all unions are bad. In some cases, they are still necessary.

    • Your Mi Boy Blu

      Everyone has stories like that. Still, congrats on 4 years. You are probably in middle management material.

      One thing definitely going for AT&T was vacation/PTO was given on day-one. It didn’t accrue. Benefits started as quickly as you could get online to fill out the paperwork. Benefits at AT&T can vary on a state-by-state basis; each state has a vote. For example, a state with a cellular network and also a DSL/wireline service may have more employees and therefore a different healthcare plan. So it’s more participative; employees have a vote:

      One thing I remember was when TMobile couldn’t hit customer acquisition targets in Idaho so T-Mobile sold all the stores. Most of stores closed, however, some converted into Third-party retailers for customer complaints and billing payments. T-Mobile didn’t own any stores.

      All the benefits in the world can’t give you job security like that..!

  • Philip

    Why just T-mobile? What about Delta and others that dont allow unions? This Bernie is funny. Sure everyone can get free education, but whos paying for it? Free free free …

  • David

    Bernie is such a looser. Free this free that. No one will work and everyone wants free stuff, America keeps on borrowing and soon will default on debt payment, then no more loan money coming in to finance all these free stuff, in no time there will be caos and riots.

    • gmo8492

      I find it funny that people keep saying free this and free that when in fact the U.S. spends more than 700 billion on the military. To put things into perspective “free” public college would only cost 60 billion a year and single payer health insurance would cost around 120 billion. Why does no one ever ask how are we going to pay for expanding the military. Yup, no one ever brings it up.

      • Ordeith

        60 and 120 billion to start.. Costs will quickly balloon out of control with the shift in money availability. College wouldn’t cost near as much if it weren’t for student loans increasing the availability of money and students willingness to kick the payment can down the road. Healthcare costs wouldn’t be nearly as high if it weren’t for insurance companies causing a real disconnect between healthcare providers and their patients. An abundant availability of funds with no real cost controls is a recipe for disaster.

        • gmo8492

          Yeah, initially costs will gradually increase over time, but there will be a point in which they stabilize and more than likely fall. What Sanders is proposing is to lift the cap of taxable income and shift it to a sliding scale where it could bring tens of billions in revenue. He also wants to impose a tax on wall street speculation and close the corporate loopholes that allow individuals to stash their money in tax havens. That could make up hundreds of billions of new revenue. I do agree with your overall assessment instead of saying “we don’t have the money.”

        • David

          The idea of ripping off the rich and give it to the poor simply doesn’t work. Look I’m not rich, and I myself want cheaper education and cheaper health care, but I just can’t go for that socialist idea.
          Businesses and money are liquid, they don’t stay in a hostile environment. To think they’ll stay put to wait for tax increase is naive, they’ll leave the country, and without a thriving economy in private sector, all that’s left behind are the poor who can’t afford to leave. Large companies can set up off shore shell entities and park millions and billions of $ there, can you open up an account in Switzerland and put your few hundred $ in there? I don’t think so.
          First hand experience, I’ve lived in China, Spain and England. In China, the rich, the elite are moving money out and migrating to western countries. In Spain and England, the public free health care are so bad, wait is very long and the doctors don’t take their jobs seriously. It’s free, unlike a paid service, patients can’t complaint and even if they switch to a different clinic, doctor attitude are pretty much the same. Just look at how VA system is broken here in the states, ideally free for all veterans right?
          The socialist approach simply won’t work in the long run, the poor end up being hurt while those who can afford moved away long ago.
          Some one in this country have to work and produce, most americans are living on borrowed money, (treasury bonds sold to foreign governments). If everyone sits at home and collect benefit, how long do you think treasury bond will be worth less than the paper its printed on? And then what will you do? Many healthy adults now don’t work, because first they have no motivation to work, stay at home and collect check and have babies. Second, they can’t find jobs because economy from private sector is hurt and businesses are facing higher taxes so they can’t afford to hire more people.

        • gmo8492

          So you’re suggesting that asking the wealthy to pay their fair share is ripping them off?! Most of the top 500 companies in America don’t even pay the corporate tax rate of 35%. That’s lost tax revenue that could be used to pay off our “debt” and expand social programs. Most of the people from different parts of Europe that I have actually talked to enjoy the benefits they get and if it weren’t for that they would be in financial ruin. You’re basically laying out the theory of trickle down economics which quite frankly has been proven not to work since we have been doing that for the past 30 years, and people still lose their jobs due to moving them overseas.

        • BillSmitty

          What is their “fair share”? You could tax all the wealthy and corporations at 100% and it wouldn’t mak a dent in the US debt. And then you want to expand social programs…what will that cost and who pays for it? I could care less about Europe or anywhere else, I live in the US, but if you or anyone else thinks it’s so much better, why aren’t you moving there? By the way, that won’t last much longer…see Greece. You obviously have no idea what “trickle down economics” is nor has it been disproven. When was the last time a poor person provided a job…shall we try “trickle up economics”? I’m guessing you are quite young and have a lot to learn.

          I would agree there is a ton of waste, fraud and mismanagement in government, yet Bernie and the rest of his crew want to give even more money to the government to “spend”. Do you realize just how inefficient that is? Government is such a behemoth and the debt is so massive that it will explode at some point and it won’t be pretty.

        • Your Mi Boy Blu

          One thing about this is that Government exists to create jobs when private sector can’t or won’t.

          American business is *great* at creating jobs in China, India, and Singapore.

          Here in the US we don’t even want to invest in the machining equipment or tooling…!

          Then we have Deutsche Telekom here in the US pushing companies like Lucent and CDMA standards out of business due to cost and competition from European manufacturers like Nokia, Ericsson, Alcatel.

        • RLB63

          Please show me the oil subsidies?
          Our are you talking about not taking them as much? They pay a lot on taxes and having them drill for more oil until recently saved lots of money and created jobs in the U.S.

          Oh wait were you talking about the real subsides to the green companies? Where we actually have them money and many that were obviously going to go bankrupt still did. Yeah Obama paid back his donors with outour tax dollars. We have lost HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars that way.

          As for companies paying taxes dream on. No company ever pays taxes. They pass it on in costs. So you pay it when you buy their product. OR WORSE, if the product is shipped over seas then it raises the costs and is one reason our products aren’t competitive in other countries. On top of the reason stated elsewhere that they don’t total enough at 100%.

          Plus the higher the tax rate on the rich the faster they leave. Ny raised taxes on the people making $100k and above. Taxes collected went down! People moved, people worked less, and people hired accountants to find loop holes. Doesn’t work for countries you say? Then why do we have the highest rate of people renouncing their USA citizenship ever? Other high taxing countries realize the same thing. You drive away the very people paying all the taxes! 45% of USA citizens don’t pay a dime in federal taxes! Yet thinks Obama just gives them phones!

        • a_v

          Amazing what 2 seconds of Google can manage:
          http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/11/12/3721677/g20-fossil-fuel-subsidies/

          I’d go ahead and read the rest of your post, but I imagine it’s just as pointless and without bothering to actually look at for facts as the beginning of it.

        • Ordeith

          The top 40% of earners pay 109% of income taxes in the US.
          The bottom 60% pay -9%.
          What’s fair again?

        • David

          You can’t just look within the boundaries of US border. Fortune 500 companies are not locked down here, US as a country has to compete with other countries that’s charging only 15% corporate tax or less.
          Take Apple for example. Sure it’s designed in california, but they buy components from taiwan, ship it to china for assembly and then direct from china to the rest of the world. Money for every single Apple product sold OUTSIDE of united states doesn’t not come back to california, instead they go to Apple’s offshore entity. Apple uses offshore money to buy more component and the cycle continues. The entire cycle happens offshore without the money ever coming into united states.
          Honest, between being tax heavily to bring the money in and have it parked somewhere in the Bahamas and only be taxed 5%, if I were CEO of Apple I’d choose the latter. As a private company, they’re responsible only to shareholders’ best interest.
          Simply put, higher corporate tax will drive both business and money out of the country.

        • Demandred22

          I’ve lived in Spain for the past 6 years and I’ve never experienced this bad healthcare, or very long waits you’re talking about? The healthcare I’ve received here has been excellent.

        • Your Mi Boy Blu

          Cool post.. Very insightful.
          But I always thought “liquid” assets were of the type that (typically) don’t loose value; and could be LIQUIDated quickly if needed, without needing a third party (often a creditor).

        • Isaiah

          The rich are ripping of the American People by gaming the tax system.

        • David

          To be honest, to envy and be jealous of the rich, is not the right mentality. You can become rich too, most people aren’t rich because they don’t work hard enough. Everyone wants free meal, and if you look at all the rich people (minus those got money from family) that created their empire from scratch, they work day and night and work really hard.
          People are simply jealous of rich people but don’t see that when they’re watching TV at home the rich are doing productive things, like study in the library, working overtime. It’s like a race, everyone born equal, but some in the class goes to Harvard and become a CEO while some drops out and sell drugs in street corners.

        • Isaiah

          It is not envy it is about fairness. The rich pay an effective lower tax rate than average everyday American. It has nothing to do about punishing the rich or their success it is a mater of fairness. The rich should not have a lower effective tax rate than the middle class.

        • David

          No, you’re simply jealous. You can hire lawyers and accountants to help you lower your effective tax rate as well. The rules and laws are the same for every single american.
          You’ve gotta have the drive to become rich that’s all. All the people that I know who makes way more money than I do, one thing in common, they work hard, REALLY hard and are very determined.
          And when I wish I could have more money, I don’t blame the rich. You only have yourself to blame.
          Blacks complain they’re not given opportunities, well, when most asian and white kids are studying and learning, black kids are hanging out in the hood. Again, rules and play field is equal for everyone, hard working people come out top naturally, then the not so smart average people becomes middle class, then the really shitty people who party, do drugs and hang out around street corners become a class of people at the bottom. Those are the ones crying the loudest, but honest, they can only blame themselves.
          Bill Gate’s the world’s richest person, probably with a low tax rate. Well, the question is, 30 years ago, did you know computer programming? 10 years ago, why didn’t you create facebook? If you have the talent and creativity and skills, you can become rich too.

        • Isaiah

          Why is it that the rich think the poor are against them when all they are asking for is fairness in how they pay taxes. People would argue it is not fair or right that the working class pays a higher effective tax rate than the rich. Instead of making derogatory comments why don’t you explain why you think it is fair that the poor pay a higher effective tax rate than the rich.

        • Dave

          Defense spending is necessary given how much the rest of the world hates us. That’s a given. The peace of relative freedom we have would not be possible if not for that.

          You start offering free college and healthcare then even working people now will jump on board to take advantage of it and work less, just putting more on the back of stressed tax payers. I’ve worked in grocery stores for 6 years, and have seen hundreds of people using food stamps and driving a Mercedes and having finer gadgets and clothes than I, a hard working tax payer barely making ends meet, could ever afford. Privatize schools! Have the government stop subsidizing them! prices will fall when the schools can’t bill the government anymore.

          And when exactly will the nation begin to pay off the debts it has? Economics and finances says the debt will eventually get to the point that it can’t be repaid. You can’t offer free free free and just keep running up the balance on the US debt.

        • gmo8492

          You’re basing this on assumptions and anecdotal evidence, defense spending is inflated because corporate lobbyists and defense contractors push for it and pours millions into campaign contributions. It’s not necessary because the world hates us since we spend more money than the top 5 military’s in the world combined. You also ask when do we start paying off our debt? How about when do we start cutting all the massive amounts of wasted tax payer dollars on oil subsides and corporate welfare we give to established companies?

        • a_v

          You’ve seen hundreds of people using food stamps and driving a Mercedes? Please post pics. As for the necessary defense spending, please explain why they hate us (without bullshit answers like “They hate freedom!” unless you want to also define what that freedom is)

          Also with the military spending, please feel free to explain how the costs are even remotely sensible given the outcomes.

        • maximus1901

          japan and germany hated us too until we f-ed them up. Now they’re the most pacifist countries ever.

        • BillSmitty

          I’m curious, could you please explain this “Wall Street speculation” you are talking about?

        • JeffreyME

          High speed computerized trading is used by numerous large Wall Street firms in an attempt to game the system. SOmetimes it is a matter of getting a big trade done a few nanoseconds quicker than anyone else that can parlay a small change in price into a huge profit.

          Numerous books and articles have been written about his phenomenon. The practice has nothing to do with improving our economy or increasing productivity or competetiveness. It’s all about a small number of people abusing the stock market system in ways that benefits nobody except themselves — and leaves everyone else losers.

        • a_v

          +2 points for being able to spell loser correctly unlike the original poster. Unless he’s implying Bernie Sander’s pants are looser than his, in which case his use of looser would be correct I suppose.

      • Allen Alberto Enriquez

        Your right! Things has changed since the midevil days!

  • Free, Free…

    Okay, free Rain…LOL

  • Acdc1a

    Depends on the business. A LOT of businesses (cars especially) are what have you done for me lately? If you choose that environment, you’d better keep up.

  • jefferywilliams

    Whomever wrote this is a moron. First of all I know several TMO employees and they absolutely LOVE working for the company and are treated VERY well. Secondly it is a free economy. If you don’t like working there, work somewhere else. Unions are bullshit and no longer have a place. Lastly the TMO has no contract and that is NOT a lie. Yes they have finance plans so that you don’t have to pay for your phone up-front YOU ARE WELCOME. I get so damn sick of the entitled attitude of people. TMO expects you to payoff what you have financed; UM YEAH!

    • Prode

      I understand what you are saying but there are reps that work for T-MO that do not tell ppl that you need to pay it off when you leave. So I can see why someone would be mad if they were told that the phone costs them $27 amonth, and then you leave and now you have a $400 fee to leave. I know its on the customer to read the fine print but there are a lot of dumbass ppl in this world that do not do that.

      • Your Mi Boy Blu

        It’d make sense if TMobile sold the phones unlocked like Verizon does.

        But TMobile just wants to have its customer jump through an additional hoop.

    • JeffreyME

      “Whoever”. Why are so many of you anti-union folks incapable of writing a single comment without horribly mangling the English language?

      • Grimsly

        lol because they aren’t well-educated, hence their backward thoughts on just about everything.

      • Your Mi Boy Blu

        They work in HR.

        Remember, HR ladies are also the ones that have an uncanny ability to “read” a resume in 30 seconds. ;-)

    • a_v

      Definition: Contract – a written or spoken
      agreement, especially one concerning employment, sales, or tenancy, that
      is intended to be enforceable by law.”both parties must sign employment contracts”

      How is a finance plan NOT a contract? The best you could argue is you can either pay for your phone up front or agree to this contract. If you want to argue otherwise I’d suggest you argue with Websters and Oxford dictionary.

      • FlipJUMPMΔN

        It’s not necessary for you to buy a phone, you get contact free service with tmobile. If you want to buy a phone from them, that’s a different story. You can pay for it upfront or pay monthly with zero interest.

  • Bernie Sanders is the perfect figurehead for the Entitlement Generation. Enough said.

    • ssjchaseutley

      If you actually read the Vermont link, sexual harassment and discrimination complaints are not being reported.

      • a_v

        Anyone who talks about the “Entitlement Generation” isn’t interested in reading in the first place. Most of that “Generation” has valid concerns that he either wants to ignore or is too ignorant to listen to in the first place. So correcting him is pointless in that he won’t bother to even think about your response.

        • Acdc1a

          What kind of concerns? Student loans? You took them, pay them. Cost of higher education? Refuse to pay…go to community college…anything else you want me to fix for you?

        • Matthew

          This was an ignorant comment. A community college is only an Associates. Seriously the cost of Education is way too high. if you did some basic research instead of being prideful you would know that

        • FlipJUMPMΔN

          Try buying text books. Biggest scam on the planet!

    • Briggsbury

      which generation would that be? the one that got medicare? the one that got social security? the generation that started the VA?

      when are people who share your sentiments going to realize we have always had entitlements and always will. We have a mix in the US and if anything it is going to get more and more like Europe all the time.

      • Ken51

        Correct me If I am wrong but aren’t social security and medicare mandatory? Blame the democrats because they are the ones who forced these programs on Americans. We had no choice.

      • Banney Ley

        The VA is a very necessary entity, though, medicare and social security are a bit more debatable, however, those are hardly considered “entitlements”. They worked for them as enrollment REQUIRES participation in the labor force or military. Social security requires that you have worked x amount of years and paid into the system x amount of dollars, VA benefits are only for those who have served in the military, and medicare are for the elderly who have paid into the system before hand. On the other hand when it comes to the entitlement generation, such as the majority of bernie supporters, they want benefits simply just for existing. I’m sorry, but free/severely discounted college tuition to major in something like art or gender studies is entitlement because you can sit at home and paint or read books at your local library as hobbies and such people are not innovators nor contributors to tomorrow.

  • TmoR

    Unions are not neccessary at all. I can speak for myself. Go ahead and keep that authorization card in your pocket.

    • jagger

      yes one person speaking matters a whole lot to a company of thousands of workers…don’t spread nonsense there may be other dummies out there who will take you at your word.

      Governments and corporations only listen to one thing….a whole bunch of people saying the same thing.

    • Your Mi Boy Blu

      Not having a union makes it easier to shuffle around budgets.

      Labor is prioritized lower than other obligations like (real estate leases/stock/rebate issues/bill payments and payment kiosks).

  • Shawn

    This is just the union’s drivel. They have been trying to get into t-mobile forever and can’t. All of these so called claims are mainly lies. The only employees I have ever heard complain about anything are pro union employees or people that do not do their job.

    • JeffreyME

      I think the word you were searching for is “drivel”. And you should have placed an apostrophe in the word “union’s”.

  • chicobill

    good reason not to vote for him – he will kill all legitimate business

  • mingkee

    A great company for working doesn’t need union.

    • Matthew

      Exactly!

    • Your Mi Boy Blu

      The way I see it is like this–

      “Jobs” don’t need unionization. But if you want a “career” you may want to consider a Unionized company. Companies that are unionized are specifically setup to deliver a service and dedicate labor to delivery.

      But my experience with TMO was very poor. An exec said they’d reimburse a few college classes… When time came for the reimbursement, the “budget wasn’t there”… again. It’s hard to take them seriously.

  • Paul Garrison

    I’m not against Unions, but it would kill a carrier with lower prices. It would affect most carriers to the point where it would have to raise prices.

  • Apple

    #FeelTheBern
    #iPhone4EveryKing

    • Yes, FeelTheBern

      Yes, #FeelTheBern…Alright, Alright.

  • Tmo_employee

    I’m a 6 year employee i believe wages aren’t fair. every couple months Commission structure is changed and its portrayed as positive but always ends up with a pay cut. I know people who work at other Carriers and all make more hourly and in Commission than T-mobile has to offer.

    • Acdc1a

      Simple, go work at other carriers.

      • Matthew

        You think they do both the grass isn’t greener on the other side. The top rep at AT&t isn’t making any where near close to what the top rep at T-Mobile is. Our commission structure is truly set up to where we have no caps no limits and can make whatever we sell. Good luck finding that at Verizon and At&T and dont even get me started about Sprint.

        • Your Mi Boy Blu

          No caps and no limits on earnings are good but depends on how good your manager and regional manager is at being a delivery boy.

          “Unlimited potential” is no good if stock is limited to 3 IPhone 128G for an entire region during launch week. Ah yes, I remember managers taking their own cars and driving around town to get and transfer stock. Good times.

          They’re still monkeying around with commission structures? It must be because Bill Steele still works there. I remember when TMO US couldn’t find a way to pay staff bonuses so the company fired 10-15 people in a re-org right before Christmas.

          The funny thing is that wages (and Salary) will always go up last. People can be replaced for cheaper talent. However, landlords can count on increasing rent 7-10% in good areas annually.

  • Acdc1a

    You just gave up your desk…lol!

  • Matthew

    Bernie Sanders can shut up. I dont need higher hourly pay and crappier commission structure. Thanks for speaking Bernie Sanders but no thanks. T-Mobile is a great place to work in fact most employees i’ve spoken to say it’s the best job they’ve ever had. We are fine we don’t need a Union

    • FeelThe Bern…

      Yes, #FeelTheBern…Alright, Alright.

    • Your Mi Boy Blu

      T-Mobile has some of the highest turnover; likely on-par with BestBuy. It’s a good job to consider while attending school and being both non-union and also not having formal training for retail store employees keeps overall costs down.

      That said, once the employees get industry experience, they generally go to Verizon or AT&T. Those are union companies. Verizon and AT&T know that new-hire replacement costs result in re-training. But conversely, T-Mobile see it as an opportunity to shift around pay and employee budgets.

      Very rarely do you hear of anyone with 5 years experience at T-Mobile. When I left the company, I had 7 years invested. Moving to AT&T and being a bargained, management employee, I doubled my income.

      It’s a different environment; it seems more people are empowered to deliver coverage and service. Budgets exist to get work the done. :-). Rarely is anything outsourced.

      • SteveD

        I disagree. If you’re talking turnover you’re talking about retail. If you’re talking about union.. You’re talking about net ops. 2 completely different animals. You may as well compare Ford plant workers to the receptionists at Toyota dealerships.
        Your use of the word “likely” in comparing T-mo to best buy means that you don’t know what the actual numbers are for anyone and are just making it up as you go along.
        I happen to know, for a fact, that the union environment at AT&T is absolutely toxic and 100% adversarial between mgmt and employee. With the Union trying to squeeze every last penny from the company.. while the company tries to make the working environment miserable, inefficient and burdensome to ENCOURAGE turnover. Because due to contract negotiations NEW union employees make LESS than the old ones.
        Unions are in a fight for their lives right now. And like Government they are bloated, top heavy, overpaid and the only way possible for them to survive is to force membership on people who don’t want it and soak them for dues while delivering fewer benefits to the new rank and file in order to preserve the ones for the older members..

        • Matthew

          Actually your wrong. I left AT&T because T-Mobile paid me more in commission. Do you know how useless unions can be? idkn how many people at AT&T paid for a union and then when they needed the union they did little too nothing to help them in their situation and got fired anyways. It’s a fact if T-Mobile was to forma union they would lower our commission structure significantly. I enjoy the ability to make 4 grand and above if I earn that. in At&T it’s damn near impossible to make that kind of money on commission alone. If T-Mobile was a shitty company to work for and didn’t treat their employees fairly then a union might make sense but that is FAR from the case. the only people i see that leave T-Mobile who didn’t get fired are people who graduate who then get another job with their degree. But even then i’ve seen people graduate and stay at T-Mobile because jobs out there can’t even compete with how much T-Mobile pays us. People who complain about T-Mobile are people who don’t know how good they have it, and or lazy, or just happen to get a really shitty manager who makes their life hell and in that case they should ask for a transfer. The turn over at T-Mobile is no where near as high as it is at other companies so don’t try to post on here with your false facts.

          and everything SteveD just said about Unions was exactly true and how it was at AT&T

      • Jake Larsen

        Where on earth are you getting your information?!

  • almost_happy

    The complaints about “no contract” are ridiculous. There is no contract for your services, but if you’re on a $25 a month installation payment plan for a $699 phone, why would anyone in their right mind expect that they are no longer responsible for the actual phone purchase after the no-contract service has ended? If the phone is paid in full, T-Mobile can and will unlock the phone for you permanently (most phone have a self-served sim unlock app too) so you can use it on other networks. It’s like back in days, some people bought a computer through AOL, just because you cancelled your AOL, the computer still has to be paid for. Those who feigned ignorance and stupidity on such simple matter does not get any of my sympathy.

    • Your Mi Boy Blu

      It’s a “Contracted Equipment Installment Plan”

      The emphasis was added to let people know there’s an obligation to pay. ;-)

      There’s no contract on the service; and likely TMobile did this so it didn’t have to fix outages and bad coverage zones as quickly as a “carrier” would.

  • guest

    can i get 2 phones on JOD with one line or do i have to get another line added

    • Options

      Please call Tmobile customer to discuss your options.

    • GersonT1000

      If you are referring to having two phones on EIP plans on the same line, it’s possible. I’ve added a second phone on EIP while in the middle of paying for another one. Now, if you are talking about having JUMP on two phones on one line, I have no idea, but you probably can if your credit is approved.

  • Jason Crumbley

    You know why they abolished the rules against talking about wages? Because those rules were illegal. The supreme court ruled on that a long, long time ago.

  • Union Guy 2017

    Good for Bernie…If you are WHITE, BLACK, or ASIAN and you don’t speak SPANISH you can’t get a sales rep job in Southern California, the next time you go into a T-Mobile store take a look at the lack of diversity. Unless they just can’t find a Spanish speaking employee they will hire a non-Spanish speaking rep, other than that it’s impossible for a WHITE, BLACK, or ASIAN person to get one of those $50,000 sales jobs. The union needs to step in and clean this mess up at TMobile. If you don’t believe me have a friend apply for a job at TMobile who speaks Spanish and you being BLACK, WHITE, or ASIAN want even get a call back. Try it and see! #englishsellsphonestoo

  • mallard1967

    Personally think T-Mobile is great company and when I wrote John there president he got back with me and had a high up follow back up with me that’s so cool ware most big shots don’t bother with the average 5 to 9 common folks thank you John your the man ……Only wish T-Mobile would add a few extra towers in my freedom ny 14065 area. Because T-Mobile is so close ware a few towers would extend there coverage to my area and I would drop my verzion in a heart drop and I would spread the word so Mr John and his T-Mobile could add lots of new happy customers and every time I called T-Mobile to see from time to time if there coming to freedom they are always very kind and seem happy in there voices

  • Isaiah

    The issue is T-Mobile’s repeated labor law violations and anti-union activities. I have even heard stories of employees getting fired for trying to unionize at T Mobile. Why is T Mobile USA so afraid of that they will not allow their own employees to vote if they want a union or not. T Mobile is not the only company who does this Walmart does this as well.

  • csr specialist

    Bernie can go jump off a cliff, don’t want or need him talking for me and the company I have been employed by for over 10 years. We don’t need or want a union in our customer service center. For those who do please go to work for someone that has a union since you hate T-mobile so much. We want workers who want to excel, that are excited about where we are headed. I love my job, I love my pay and I love my benefits.