T-Mobile Simple Choice Amped plan pricing details

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UPDATE: John Legere sent out a handful of Tweets tonight to try and more clearly explain the new Simple Choice Amped plans. He confirms that current customers can keep their plans and get Binge On video optimization or switch to the new Simple Choice Amped plans and get additional data. Additionally, T-Mobile has told me that its limited time fourth line free promo applies to all plans. So, for example, you could get 4 lines of unlimited for $180 ($80+$60+$40+4th line free) per month.

 

Yesterday T-Mobile announced Simple Choice Amped, and with those updated plans comes new pricing. Shortly after the event ended, I updated yesterday’s post with an image showing the new pricing, but some folks may have missed it, so here’s another mention.

The new Simple Choice Amped plans will go live on November 15. The data allotments will be double what they are right now, but the pricing of most high-speed data allotments will go up as well. Here’s how the new prices break down:

  • 2GB for $50, an allotment increase from Simple Choice’s 1GB for $50
  • 6GB for $65, up from Simple Choice’s 3GB for $60
  • 10GB for $80, up from Simple Choice’s 5GB for $70
  • Unlimited high-speed data for $95, up from $80 (now includes 14GB of hotspot usage, up from 7GB)

T-Mobile says “We’ve doubled the high-speed data included in our base plan at no extra cost for new activations or migrations starting 11/15.” So it sounds like if you’re already a Simple Choice customer, you’ll have to actively switch to a Simple Choice Amped plan to get the added data. As for the doubled hotspot data on the unlimited plan, T-Mobile tells me “Those who enroll for the unlimited simple plan as of Sunday will get the 14gb of hotspot data automatically.”

T-Mobile is also launching Family Match, which will negate the above price increases if all of the lines on a family plan sign up for the same monthly data allotment. So with Family Match, a family plan on which all lines have 10GB of high-speed data per month will pay $70 for line 1, $50 for line 2, and $30 for each additional line, up to 12 lines. That’s the same pricing that Magenta offers today, but with double the data.

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Additionally, T-Mobile will run a limited time promo that’ll offer 4 lines with 6GB of high-speed data apiece for $120 per month. That means that with this promo plan, the 4th line is free. T-Mo hasn’t said how long this promo will be around.

There’s also one other note related to Data Stash. As it works now, there’s no limit to the amount of data you can have in your Stash. With Binge On, though, T-Mo is putting a 20GB limit on Data Stash. You can opt out of this limit, but you won’t get the free Binge On streaming. This is opt-out, so if you’re thinking that you’ll want to avoid the 20GB limit on Data Stash, you will have to tell T-Mobile using this form.

Whew. I think that’s all of the new plan details. So are any of you going to be moving to a Simple Choice Amped plan this weekend?

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  • IamDefiler

    Sign me up! :)

  • nintendonate02

    that sounds really cool! I will stick to my unlimited plan

  • varun

    You know, at this point of time, the tiers have become thoroughly confusing again – in some respects, more confusing than it used to be, pre-Uncarrier. One of the reasons I moved to Simple Choice was because I had a clear idea of what it would cost upfront and what I was going to get as a consequence. Now I look at Verizon’s plans and say, “yeah, that makes sense” and that’s not a good thing.

    They need to resimplify the plans and not need a giant worksheet to figure it out. I’ve been a loyal customer since Voicestream days, I follow this blog, I read up on T-Mobile’s plans to be able to tell others, but … today if I was asked how much is a plan for four people and what does it get them, I’d shrug and throw my hands up.

    • SEBA

      I agree with you. Their plan changes are ridiculous. It feels like they going backwards. Back to the same old bull***t.

  • Adrayven

    wait… I thought those who had simple choice were staying at the same price points.. umm.. and I could have swore that they said the pricing for the plans would stay the same.. that it was additional $15 per 4GB …

    • gmo8492

      I was reading CNET article right after the event and it said that current simple choice customers will keep their plan so they’re grandfathered in. But they will also get double the data and binge on. Now we have to migrate to take advantage of these features? Yes there’s so much confusion right now.

  • TheCudder

    So can some one break the REAL meaning of this statement down (from their website):

    “Every Simple Choice customer can watch 3 times more video with your data plan with Binge On™ enabled. If you have 3GB of data or more, stream from your favorite steaming services like Netflix, Hulu, HBO, Sling, ESPN, Showtime, Starz and more for free, without using your 4G LTE data. The more data you have the more benefits you get.”

    This doesn’t affect me as a have a higher plan, but it appears that the base Simple Choice plan comes with 2GB LTE data, but it DOESN’T qualify for BingeOn — sounds like they’re requiring you to have at least a 3GB plan to qualify for BingeOn?

    The way I’m reading it is:
    If you have the base plan, 2GB, you get up to 6GB of video streaming — 3 times as much. But you don’t get the full unlimited streaming until you get a 3GB+ plan?
    Store reps are going to have a blast explaining this stuff.

    • Which is weird since they will no longer have a 3 gB plan unless this particular feature does apply to grandfathered plans.

      • it does. it’s implemented at the network level, so all data is pushed to 480p unless you opt out.

        • Yep! I verified on chat. Looks like they will not force people out of plans, but if you do move government discounts go away, and the streaming features go to older plans too. So I will be sticking with what I have.

        • Dazed and Confused

          It’s getting absurd to call these “Simple” Choice plans–they’re anything but simple. Especially for those of us who still qualify for the government discounts. To this point, you’d lose them if you go to a limited time plan (not that this was made very clear)–apparently now they go away even if you move to a “standard” plan.

        • Brian Maher

          The only 2 plans that you couldn’t bring your Government discount to were the 2 lines for $100 unlimited and the soon-to-be-ending 4 lines for $120 w/10GB. The 4 lines for $100 2.5 GB keeps the 15% discount (I’m on that one), and the newly-announced plans starting Sunday keep your discount as well.

    • Alex Wagner

      To get Binge On’s free video streaming, you need to be on a 3GB or higher data plan. Customers on the 2GB plan still get the optimized video streaming, though, which will save data and let you stream more video than unoptimized streaming.

  • alex

    i am on unlimited $70 plan.. should i be expecting a price increase?

    • Alex Wagner

      You can keep your $70 plan if you’d like.

      • Wait, I think I have heard that before ;)

    • gmo8492

      No, you are grandfathered into that plan unless you switch.

    • lomsha

      Now i wish i had jumped on unlimited when it was $70 lol.

  • SFBayAreaWaitingForBand12

    So existing customers with unlimited data will not receive the 14 GB LTE hotspot perk unless they change to the new unlimited plan, correct?

    • Alex Wagner

      It sounds that way, yes. I asked T-Mobile “Will customers currently on an unlimited 4G LTE plan have to migrate to the new Simple Choice Amped unlimited 4G LTE plan to get 14GB of hotspot usage?” and this is the response that I got: “Customers currently on the Unlimited Simple Choice plan will have to choose to switch over to the new plan. Those who enroll for the unlimited simple plan as of Sunday will get the 14gb of hotspot data automatically.”

      • SFBayAreaWaitingForBand12

        So basically a Carrier move…

  • Already have Unlimited-2/$100 with extra Unlimited Lines @ $40.00/Ea. I have 3 lines. No need to change anything. I’ve got everything that others are too cheap to pay for! And I’ll get 14GB’s of tethering per line. Woot! #TMobile #JohnLegere for President!

    • Golbez352

      Sorry to bust your bubble on that one, You stick with the 7gb for hotspot unless you move plans.

    • Allen Alberto Enriquez

      He has what it takes to be one! Now where is John Legere to Vote!?

    • David J Delgado

      Time to burst another bubble, when you upgrade you have to go into the new plans.

      • Brian Maher

        This is incorrect.

  • Gavriel Ostrow

    just sounds tom me like john is getting sneaky with the pricing and plans upping the costs to compensate for binge on and to buy and maintain more towers, soon they will be as expensive as verizon.

    • Allen Alberto Enriquez

      Good View of this situation! Your truly right we are paying for innovations or going to be paying for innovations.

    • SFBayAreaWaitingForBand12

      I don’t think they actually own towers anymore; I believe they lease space and resources on the towers they use.

    • HeatFan786

      If you’re on a grandfathered plan, they’re probably going to keep your business by letting you keep it. It really depends if those newer features are worth your time. Knowing TMO, their prepaid plans will get the BingeOn feature sometime down the road.

      • I have verified grandfathered plans, even those with government and corporate discounts, will not be forced to switched.

        We will also get the binge on the optimized video streaming, the former so long as you have at least 3 gB of data.

      • Tale 85

        Down the road is here. Simple Choice Prepaid , according to T-Mobile twitter, is included. Any Simple Choice plan over 3Gigs.

        All the new plans are “opt in”, to get the double data you have to change to it.

  • Hollywood J Blaq

    I don’t know how to feel about this…

    In one hand, I’m estatic that such an amazing feature is coming to T-Mobile that no other carrier can copy because they are either too stuck in their ways or too cheap to cut into their massive profits. T-mobile has found a way to truly separate themselves from the pack

    On the other hand, prices are going up by $10-$15 for new customers, the plans are convoluted, and the worst part is that current customers are left out in the cold when it comes to doubling the data. It’s either “assimilate or death” and that really sucks. They should’ve automatically doubled data for those that are on postpaid simple choice plans as a thank you for staying loyal.

    • Mike Palomba

      I believe that the increase in somewhat justified considering how many more people are now compared to when that pricing was made.

      • Hollywood J Blaq

        And If you’re a new customer, I can live with it. However for current customers to fully take advantage of the new things, they have to change their plans, and that’s not cool. I understand why, but that doesn’t make it right.

        I have the 2 for $100 plan, so I’m not worried, just a little miffed that we don’t get the double tethering.

        • Yeah, I have to same plan. And when he said current customers would be getting the doubling of mobile hotspot next Thursday, I thought it would include us. Not if we switched over to the new simple choice amped plans by then.

        • Tom@L

          it means if next year, they add new features, they will again increase the price and you will be forced to change the plan if you want those features. This also applies if you want to upgrade your device or add a new line. So to be honest, tmobile is sneakily raising their prices at a slow rate.

    • lomsha

      That’s the way i thought they would do it. He said doubled for the same price.

    • Brian Maher

      4 lines w/2.5 GB per line for $85 (with my Government discount?) I’m LOVIN’ “death”.

  • Ted Cruz Truth

    T-Mobile = Smoke + Mirrors

    When will you people ever learn?

    Legere’s zany antics have resulted in a major hit to margins.

    Thus the reason the stock has fallen on hard times in recent weeks.

    Oops — also gotta keep up the finger-pointing at Experian. After all, every corporation simply blames their problems on assorted 3d party vendors.

    Just another churn ’em and burn ’em palace… wait and see.

    • SFBayAreaWaitingForBand12

      Agreed but Experian deserves the lawsuits, they are responsible for the customer data entrusted to them for credit checks on behalf of TMobile. That’s life as a 3rd party contractor. Data encryption is trivial.

      • Ted Cruz Truth

        You bet – Experian deserves the lawsuits. But T-Mo would probably be better served apologizing first and foremost… and then Legere can do his childish dancing and finger-pointing at a later point.

        • Allen Alberto Enriquez

          Very creative thought!

    • Brian Maher

      I stopped reading your rabble when I saw your username.

  • Benben

    No thanks i am on the 70$ plan and intend to keep it that way

  • lomsha

    So i think i misunderstood yesterday. Data is only doubled for the BASE $50 plan from 1 gig to 2 for free. I thought it would be free for people currently on 3 and 5 gig as well. This is not what sneaky Legere said during the presentation, smh.

    • Right. I thought so too, but then I see these price increases for the “free doubling.” So, basically you’re paying for it. So how it is “doubling for free.”

      • Apparently it only comes out to no charge if everyone is on the same data level.

    • Yep, very poorly worded presentation.

  • JBLmobileG1

    I am on the $70 Dollar Grandfathered plan. When I signed into my, My Tmobile account today, it said this:
    Starting 11/15/15 you’ll get 3x more video with optimized streaming at DVD quality (+480p). The Binge On™ feature is included with all lines on your account, opt-out anytime.

    So what are they saying? Does this mean my Unlimited will be capped or am I getting the free goodies? Anyone know? If I am on unlimited what does the Binge feature even do for me? Thanks.

    • Chris

      I think that’s a generic alert.

      It’s like how they text me about the mobile without borders.

      Then 2 weeks later one of my lines went on a trip to Mexico. Used it for a call granted it was a minute or two.

      Bill comes in and I got a charged for roaming call.

      I spoke to a rep and they said ‘Oh, you’re plan is on the old Simple Choice. You have to have the new Simple Choice North America plan to get mobile without borders.’

      • JBLmobileG1

        Makes sense. Thanks for the reply!

    • Alex Long

      BingeOn video compression will affect ALL customers automatically. So everyone benefits from reduced data usage with video, but at lower quality than before. You can opt out of the video compression and get full quality in your account if you want.

      BingeOn unlimited streaming is only for the new plans that will be in effect after 11/15.

      • JBLmobileG1

        So even with the old grandfatherd unlimited plan they are reducing your video quality? Why wouldn’t you want to opt out? Your not getting any deal from it right? Like no doubling of your tethering or 1 free Vudu movie a month.

    • I have the old simple choice plan and they verified I would be getting binge on for any plan with 3gB or more of data. That and the change in video quality that is done on the network level.

      None of the other stuff applies to us.

  • Android_God

    SimpleChoice Val FAM UnlTT+D and I pay $80. Does this mean to take advantage of the new plan my bill will go up to $100 if I stay on the same base tier?

  • Android_God

    I’m sorry, maybe it’s because I’m not a millennial…but who SERIOUSLY binge watches a program staring at a smartphone? Ok, ok I guess someone could argue that you could tether it to a tablet but who binge watches a program staring at a tablet? Once you transfer that stunning 480 content to a TV it will look like shit. The more this sinks in the more it seems rather confusing and muchado about nothing.

  • VG

    This screenshot from yesterday’s presentation seems to confirm another promo starting Sunday: 4 lines with unlimited talk, text and data for $180 per month (basically, pay for 3 lines and get the 4th line free):
    http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTebLGfVEAA6JQA.jpg:large

  • Android_God

    I’m sorry, maybe it’s because I’m not a millennial, but who seriously, “binge watches” a program on a smartphone? Ok, ok I guess it could be argued that you can tether the content to a tablet but who binge watches a program on a tablet? Once you send that stunning 480 content to a TV your program looks like crap. Now that this has all sunk in it just appears to be a money grab and an excuse to raise bills. Not to mention very confusing.

    • Android_God

      Let’s not even get into how a lot of the services are allowing you to download content to your device so there is no need for a data connection AND you get it at better quality. Maybe this is why Google WON’T play along with TMobile.

      • SFBayAreaWaitingForBand12

        I don’t binge watch but I do use the hotspot feature on the Simple Choice Unlimited plan. We were hoping to ditch our cable internet when they announced the bump to 14 GB LTE hotspot/month but existing plan members won’t get the boost.

      • nearvanaman

        I assume if you “opt out” then you get the regular quality streaming, but I’m just guessing.

        • Zer0.exe

          Correct. Whatever quality you select, but it counts against your data usage (in other words, nothing will change)

      • hmmmmmmm

        google wont play along b/c their trying to start their own phone company

      • Steven L.

        Did you forget that Google Music also didn’t work initially? They need time to figure out how to flag all the possible connections for the video stream..

    • Chris

      If you’re sending content to TV it would mean you’re probably at home, which means highly likely, you’re on Wi-fi.

    • Mike

      Stop complaining gosh . If you don’t want to opt out and shut up.

    • Steven L.

      Relax, it’s just a marketing thing. With 20 commute days in a month and a half-hour or longer commute in a carpool, rideshare, or public transit, you’re still looking at 20 hours of video a month. That would put a decent dent into anybody’s data plan.

  • So basically people wo ever have recent simple choice unlimited plans, like 2 lines/$100 unlimited everything, don’t get double the tethering from 7GB to 14GB, if we don’t migrate to the new plans before the 19th?

    Correct me if I’m wrong. I just told my best friend we would yesterday because that’s basically what the live stream said yesterday, but now I’m seeing that we won’t.

    • SFBayAreaWaitingForBand12

      You need to switch to the new Amped plans to get the data increases mentioned. Existing Simple Choice customers won’t get the increase data allotment.

      • That sucks.

        • Zer0.exe

          Yeah, but you don’t pay more and still get the same features you do now. You don’t gain, but you don’t lose.

  • Chris

    I still have the old Simple Choice with Grandfathered Unlimited Data Plan for $20.

    • BillSmitty

      Me too on the unlimited. The wording on all of this is f-ing confusing, not uncarrier like. I have 2 cell lines, 1 with 1gb of data (wife) and mine with unlimited data, the old TMO @home service, and the free 200mb of data for an iPad. All in, I’m at $110/mo. Would love to get the extra gb for the wife’s line, but the way this all reads it will either cost a lot more. Looks like I’ll stay put.

    • stuman74

      Same here at the moment. I have 5 lines (mine with the $20 unlimited plus 4 with the 2.5 GB/mo). Total is $130 before my 15% corporate discount and then taxes. For our use, I can’t see any other plan that is a better bang for the buck and I’d prefer not to raise the cost of my monthly plan.

  • steven berson

    $120 for 3 lines 2.5 gb and 1 unlimited. Ill stick to what I have.

    • Zer0.exe

      I have 4 total, 2 unlimited, 1 at 3GB and 1 at 1GB for $170, so it may be in my best interest to just go ahead and migrate everyone to unlimited to get that 4th line free and pay just $10 more (assuming that’s how it works)

      • steven berson

        From my understanding the first line would be $50 + $30(2nd line) + $10(3rd line) $0(4th line) $90. Unlimited data will cost $30 per line (family match). $90+$90=$180. So yes it would be $10 more. For you its worth it if you need the data.

        *Also I heard if you switch to the new plan you lose any discounts you get. One of my family members has a government job and I don’t plan to lose my 15% discount!

    • Brian Maher

      4 lines, 2.5 GB each for $85 (includes $15 Government discount)., I’ll stick with what I have!

      • steven berson

        I have the same exact 15% off (gov discount) and Im paying an extra 20$ for unlimited. So essentially we have nearly identical plans lol. But yeah no need to upgrade!

  • Ty Christensen

    10 lines for $160 with 2.5GB each and we’re grandfathered in, I’ll stick with what I have which will probably never be beat.

    • ALUOp

      After 1/1/2016 the 2.5GB will become 1GB though.

      • Ty Christensen

        It has actually been confirmed that the 2.5GB promotion if you’re on it will not go away in 2016, several different reps have told me this when I’ve called and there have also been several discussions about it here on TMo news.

        • VG

          Yes, the 2.5GB plan is permanent.

        • ALUOp

          Oh, is that right? Hope it’s true!

  • Tom@L

    probably biggest issue if even you have a great grandfathered plan right now, in the future if you want to upgrade your devices with EIP, you will have to change your plans to the newer plans available at that time or you have to buy your device second hand to avoid changing plans.

    • CSR2

      you are incorrect, just to clarify , all simple choice postpaid customers can do eip, even value plan customers, you don’t have to worry about a plan change. not being an ass just clarifying!

      • Tom@L

        doesnt work. I had to change my 2.5gb promo plan to north america 1gb plans when upgrading a device.

        • StaceyMJ86

          To be honest I still have the same plan I signed up with almost 2 years ago and have had 3 iPhones since then. Never did I have to upgrade to the newer plans.

        • lomsha

          Same here.

        • Zer0.exe

          It was mentioned earlier in the comments that TMo’s online system doesn’t support grandfathered plans, but customer care or a store can do it for you.

        • Brian Maher

          Yes, it does. I did exactly that, and still am on my 2.5GB plan.

  • cloud strife

    I’m confused. So I’m on a family plan of 3 and all only have 1gb. Is the $30 unli data add on for one line still better? Are they also increasing the price of unli add on? I might get it if it is a good deal before the new pricing takes on effect. The other 2 lines are fine at 1gb.

    • Zer0.exe

      Per the new plan, upgrading one line to unl. would be $45 extra ($30 previously). If you do “Family Match”, which means all lines have the same tier, it is $30 a month (so $90 for all 3 lines) If you add it before Saturday, you can still get the current $30 price, so DO IT!! JUST DO IT!!! Don’t let your Gigs be Gigs!

  • David

    how much would it be if I have 9 lines? how much for each extra line? I’m confused.

  • SAM FERNANDEZ

    already have unlimited everything .. select choice plan 2 lines $50.00 plus $ 20.00 x 2 for data = $90.00 a month for unlimited everything and $5.00 add a line so I’M good that way … thanks

  • Fabian Cortez

    T-Mobile says “We’ve doubled the high-speed data included in our base plan at no extra cost for new activations or migrations starting 11/15

    Alex Wagner, I believe your interpretation of that quote from T-Mobile is incorrect.

    They are stating that the data included (1 GB high speed LTE) in the base plan ($50) is getting twice the amount of data at no extra cost. And that’s it.

    They’re only speaking about the base plan in that quote.

    The other tiers will incur the price increase per your break down. Now whether existing Simple Choice subs. will have their allotments doubled at no extra cost is the question.

    • Allen Alberto Enriquez

      I though about that I just could not explain I. Very well said your English Writing Skills are Master level!

      • Fabian Cortez

        Thank you.

    • Alex Wagner

      Yes, what I was saying is that T-Mobile is doubling the high-speed data “for new activations and migrations starting 11/15,” implying that customers will need to switch to the Simple Choice Amped plans to get their allotments doubled.

      T-Mobile has confirmed to me that to get the double data, Simple Choice customers will need to switch to the new Simple Choice Amped plans. Here’s what they said:

      “You’re correct that the doubled data allotment is for the new Simple Choice plans. Customers have the option of staying on their current plans, or moving to the new plans.”

      • Fabian Cortez

        I guess a lot of people were hoping for double the data while keeping the same price.

        This wasn’t very well communicated by T-Mobile. In fact it was rather ambiguous.

  • ALUOp

    Guys, time to upgrade to unlimited data if you’ve been thinking about doing so. It’ll be $45 instead of $30 starting Sunday (unless every line on your account is or will be paying for extra data so you can take advantage of Family Match.

    • Allen Alberto Enriquez

      Nice deal that’s a saving of $360 at two years!

    • SpaceGho5t

      I agree, I’m glad I jumped on their unlimited plan when it first came out a couple years back. Only paying $70 a month instead of $80. Now its jumping up to 95$!? That’s insane.

  • ALUOp

    This double-data thing is kinda tricky. It gives you 100% more data but you have to pay 50% higher price, unless you can take advantage of Family Match!

    • Fabian Cortez

      The cost per GB did however drop.

      • ALUOp

        Yes, it does, but you’ll end up spending more. It’s good if you need that much data anyway.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Not really.

          If you’re on the $70, 5 GB, plan, you can save $5 by going down to the $65 plan and gain an extra GB (6 GB total).

        • jdubtrey

          Good point. So $50 and $70 plan holders will get more for their money.

        • ALUOp

          Oh, you’re right. Good observation!

    • Allen Alberto Enriquez

      Very Good Point I didn’t think about it as a whole, rather I saw it more dummy like. What comes to mind is will this new plan include the wide band speeds( which I think if I am right, speeds should exceed 60MGBS easily!?

  • Jesus Rosales

    I called TMobile and a rep said that the new data stash does not roll over I’m confused I thought I did and you can roll over up to 20GB I’m really confused someone explain

    • lomsha

      You got it right, it’s up to 20 on the new data stash and it still rolls over. Now i wonder if it stays unlimited if i opt out of binge on.

      • Brian Maher

        Yes, it would.

  • stuman74

    Isn’t that current promo plan where Families can get 4 lines for the price of 3 with up to 10GB of 4G LTE data per line a heck of a lot better than these upcoming plans??? I mean, 10GB per person with no cap on the data rollover.

    • Jesus Rosales

      I have that plan and the data stash can roll over up to 10GB

      • stuman74

        Per their FAQ…as I read it, it only has a 12-month expiry, but no cap.

        Is there a limit to how much data I can put in my Data Stash?

        No. There’s no limit to how much data you can collect in your Data Stash. When you need extra 4G LTE data, you’ll automatically start tapping into your earliest data deposits.

        Is there a cap on how long I can stash my data?

        Unused data from your 10GB Free Data Stash expires on 12/31/15. Any subsequent rolled data each month has an expiration of 12 months from when it is added to the Data Stash.

        • JMF_mobile

          I agree. I signed up for this promo a month ago and am glad I did then. It is a better deal.

    • Guest

      Yes it is. New plan you’ll get only 6gb per line (instead of 10gb) for the same $120…

      • stuman74

        And if you have 5 lines (assuming you get the 4th free in both cases), the 10 gigs for all plan would cost you $140/mo ($20 for line #5). The new plan at the 10gb/mo level will cost $180/mo. Correct?

        • Brian Maher

          Unless you still have a 12% or 15% Government discount. The discount couldn’t be added to the 10GB plan. It CAN be added to the new 6GB plan on Sunday.

  • Bryck

    I’m confused. I get that my 5gb becomes 10gb, is my $70 going up to $80!?!? Or am I Grandfathered and get all the perks the 19, and still pay the same $70.

    • Guest

      They definitely made us believe we all get double data for free, but that was a clever word game that even AT&T and Verizon could not come up with.
      Your choices are: (a) keep 5gb for $70, or (b) switch to new 6gb for $65 (which makes sense if you don’t care about unlimited data stash) or (c) switch to 10gb for $80.

      • VG

        Sorry, but I did not interpret their presentation the way you did. I never believed they were going to double the data on my current plan.

        • jdubtrey

          What are they “doubling” if not the amount of data on your current plan?

    • VG

      Nope, if you stay with your current plan, you will continue to pay $70 and get 5GB with the same features you have today. You are grandfathered. Or you can CHOOSE to migrate to the new $65 Simple Choice Amped plan starting Sunday that gets you 6GB of data AND all the new features. You are in a unique position: you can switch plans and only pay $65 for 6GB if you wish.

  • Cat MacKinnon

    “We’ve doubled the high-speed data included in our base plan at no extra cost for new activations or migrations starting 11/15”.

    Wait, am I missing something? I’m pretty sure raising the price of each tier constitutes, y’know, EXTRA COST. Granted, the prices are still WAY better than the other carriers, but I just don’t appreciate the weird semantics games. Just come right out and say, “We’re doubling your data allotment and it’ll only raise your monthly cost by a few bucks.” THAT would’ve been a lot more forthright and wouldn’t have seemed sleazy, and I doubt most people would’ve been too upset (especially since we can choose to stay on the SC plan we already have if we want.)

    I hate when carriers do sneaky word game horseshit like that. It’s not a good look on them.

    • ThoroughReader

      “Base Plan” – that’s what you quoted. The base plan is $50 And they are doubling the high speed data from 1 GB to 2 GB. Seems straightforward to me

      It didn’t say “No matter what tier you are on, your data will double at no additional cost to you”

      • frankinnoho

        No, they didn’t say that. And that’s the problem.

    • lomsha

      Yep the key word which flew waaay over my head was ‘base’ plan, which means only the $50 one. This is the type of double talk John always criticizes other carriers for.

  • steven berson

    This is a carrier move T-Mobile!

  • BadBatz

    Yep, vintage T-Mobile: smooth (smooooooooooooooth..!) talk promising the world and then a hit between the eyes with a rather large club (i.e. PRICE INCREASE!)
    Literally EVERYTHING involving useful minutes/bytes addition to their plans ends up as a price increase for existing customers (and, to a degree, higher costs for new ones as well.) Example? If you have ANYTHING promo/grandfathered on your account (say, tablet data match, discounted/promo int’ talk & text , etc.) and you decide to add the doubled data (or Canada/Mexico border thing) you lose all the discounts for the existing promo/grandfathered items because “this is a new plan” as it was described to me by a CS person. So, should I decide to add the doubled data to my existing plan, I’ll end up paying $20 more (5 bucks for the data and $15 difference in promo features that are no longer promo. And because their pricing strategy is not widely known, perhaps they need to add another “U” (as in “Untrue”) to their “Uncarrier” mantra. Just sayin’…

    • VG

      Sorry, but T-Mobile is NOT forcing you to change your current plan. You can keep the same plan with the same features at the same price. Of course, if you want the new features, you might have to pay more and lose your promo. It’s amazing how that works in life: you want something extra, and you have to be willing to pay for it!

    • Acdc1a

      Unless they are force migrating you (they aren’t), STOP B*TCHING!

    • Brian Maher

      Discounts (like my 15% off) carry over to the new plans. Been said many times so far.

    • Ed

      I don’t get what the big deal is…. You want more for less? Aren’t you technically getting more for less? Your doubling data and getting BingeOn. What does AT&T or VzW offer?

  • VG

    There seems to be a lot of confusion on the part of the posters below. If you are currently on a T-Mobile plan and you like it, you get to keep it as is. T-Mobile is not forcing you to migrate to the new Simple Choice Amped plans, period. You do not have automatic price increases, period. You are grandfathered in. You keep the same features and data allotments you currently have, and you don’t get the new features and the new data allotments.

    If, however, you want the new features and new data buckets, you have to migrate to the new Simple Choice Amped plans that begin on Sunday. Of course you have to pay more if you want more data or the new features! This is how things work in life!

    • Tom@L

      you also have to migrate to new plans if you want to upgrade your device with EIP from tmobile in the future. Only way to avoid this is buying full price from other retailers or from swappa.

      • VG

        I have no idea what you are talking about. Never heard of this being an issue. False claim on your part.

        • Tom@L

          try doing a upgrade or add a new line in your mytmobile website if you have grandfathered plans. Plus the latest $100 off promo for smartphones doesnt even work on grandfathered plans.

        • VG

          Do what I do: I call customer service, and politely ask to add a new line to my grandfathered plan (which they can do at the old price), and politely inform them that I would like to buy the new phone on sale, but I couldn’t add the line on the web site. A great Customer Service rep will happily give me the discount. Being polite and a good customer works wonders. You might want to try that sometime.

        • Tom@L

          well i should be able to do the same with mytmobile website as well.

        • VG

          I agree the web site does not allow you to add lines to grandfathered plans, but that’s a T-Mobile systems issue. If you call Customer Service, they can easily add a line to an old grandfathered plan, and will usually give you the discount if you are trying to buy a new phone on sale.

      • lomsha

        Maybe on really old grandfathered plans. I was on even more plus plan from 2010 up until last year and i could upgrade with eip on the site without changing to simple choice.

      • tmoguy

        they do have a way to do this on classic plans. its called bridge to value. gives you a $5 discount on the line, $15 discount on the data features. in order to make up for the fact that you will have a phone on EIP

      • Brian Maher

        Nope. Not true.

    • BadBatz

      The existing customers who DON’T want to pay BEYOND the advertised price differences get shafted, don’t you think so? Losing the discounted add-on adds up… Cellular industry has always valued new activations over giving some little extras to the existing customers as a token of appreciation for their loyalty. Say, if I fly a million miles on Delta I get a lifetime “silver” status that gives me one checked bag free of charge (a tangible benefit, worth real dollars) plus an occasional upgrade (a good thing, too.) What do you get for being a loyal T-Mobile customer for years? You get shafted, robbed out of the grandfathered features, nickel-and-dimed and fleeced, more than the new customers for the same features. Yep, you are free to remain on your old/discounted plan but required to pay MORE than the new customers should you desire the newest & greatest. Legere is a hard-nosed, seasoned telecom executive who took on a persona of a, well, whatever it is he wants to appear as, solely to make the fleecing of their customers more palatable.
      My opinion, based on facts, YMMMV.

      • dtam

        I don’t agree. can you give some examples of how an existing customer can’t get something a new customer can get?

        • Bklynman

          Discount on phones,most of the time when Tmobile,have a sale on there phone’s, it is only for new customers,or only, a new line of service,which sucks.

        • Acdc1a

          They’ve gotten much better on that recently.

        • dtam

          you can call the loyalty department and they can give you deals there too. I got three galaxy grand primes for $0 after Bill credits. yes it’s a hoop to jump through but it’s not like you’re getting a new phone every month

      • VG

        Sorry, but I have no idea what you are talking about. I have been on the 4 lines for $100 with 2.5GB on each line plan since it came out in early 2014. Same plan today, same price. No price increases. I have Music Freedom, free international data roaming, no contract. It’s a beautiful plan. If I want the unlimited video streamlining, of course I should pay more; but I don’t want the unlimited video streaming, very happy with my current plan, and I will continue to keep it. It’s all about CHOICE!

        • R.M.

          you werent tempted by the 4 lines with 10gb per line for $120 promo?

        • Peter

          WARNING!! I have the same plan but I believe the 2.5 gb/line ENDS on January 2, 2016… reverts back to 1 gb. I’ve been told this by two TMO reps in the last 24 hours. So you end up with old plan, 1gb/line, without any of the new benefits. I think TMO should allow those on the 2.5 gb plan to keep their 2.5 gb, but not sure if this will come to pass.

        • Brian Maher

          John already stated (many times) that the 2.5 GB plan will stay just that.

      • tmoguy

        actually i am an employee in retail sales and see lots of people who are paying WAY less than what i can offer a new customer. people are always asking me about new plans and i have to say ‘sorry, i dont want to touch your plan because i cannot make you any other offer that is this good’
        it sounds to me like you are mad because you missed out on some promotions, or got sold on some new plan and they wont let you go back. john legere guarantees that if you get in on a promo plan you get to keep it for at least a minimum of two years. and as mentioned before, many of our long time customers are on rate plans that are 20, 30, 40 or even $50 less than what we offer now, with unlimited talk, text, and web. but in almost 4 years i have never seen a customer forced to change their plan for any reason. they did simplify rate plans within the past year, which resulted in long time customers with inexpensive plans moving to select choice plans that are the same price or less, and bumping them all up to unlimited talk and text with access to the simple choice data packages.

        • BadBatz

          True, yet…
          Plan migration:
          A customer with grandfathered features who migrates to the double the data plan, say 3 to 6 G: $5 plan + $15 extra for lost discounts. So in my case it would be $170/month, up $20 from what I’m paying.
          New customers for the same feature set: $160 (I did check with CS)
          So I, an existing customer, get shafted for $10/month for the same set of features compared to the “new catch.”
          Oh yeah, nobody is forced to change plans…what a priceless notion …

          Also…
          Old, subsidized, system: $200 phone payment + 2 years plan @ $100 per month = $2600
          New, you pay, system: $200 down payment + 24 $20 per month phone payments + 2 years @ 100 plan = $3080
          Ah, no contract, yeah, priceless (news flash, only minority switch phones and plans like crazy so it is very likely you’ll stick for that 2 years anyway… That’s what T-Mobile gambled on and won!)

          Most people are really bad at math. Alternatively, they have lots of cash to burn or have a value set that’s not compatible with math, see Las Vegas :-)

          (Spare yourself “you don’t have to be with T-Mobile” thingy because the idea is NOT to switch to by making a playing field for existing and new customers more level.)

        • Brian Maher

          Already been verified, your 15% discount carries over to the new plans on Sunday.

  • dodolom

    So, what’s the best option at the moment or after November 15th for 2 lines? Data does not have to be unlimited, 1 is for my mom. She can live with 1-2gb

    • atown7475

      $95 2gb mom line 6gb other line

  • kanakamaoli

    I love the 2 unlimited data lines for 100.00 I got a while back

  • I’ll stay with my $80 unlimited plan, not counting paying for the phone and save $15. I rarely use my Hotspot now, and I have internet at home. If you are willing to pay that much, might as well go to Verizon

    • Verizonthunder

      True Verizon offers Unlimited talk, text and 18gb of data for $100 plus $20 for smartphone use. Also take advantage of any .corporate discounts.

  • FILA

    2 phones, unlimited everything for $100 was the best deal ever and Im forever stickign with that. Getting bumped up to 14GB of tethering. Nice!

    • VG

      You are not getting bumped up to 14GB of tethering unless you choose to migrate to the new plans. Otherwise, you keep the same plan you have today, no price increase, no change in features.

    • lomsha

      No bump unless you change plans.

  • John doe

    Maybe I’m slow, but anybody wanna explain what this would mean for a 3 line plan with unl data

    • VG

      You can keep your 3 line plan at the current price with the features you have today.

    • Alex Wagner

      As VG says, you can keep your current plan if you want to.

    • atown7475

      170

    • OZ

      (50 + 30 + 10) + 30 x 3 = $180

  • OZ

    Anyone knows if the 4th line is free for any data tier? (E.g. 4 x unlimited data == $180 instead of $220?)

    • OZ

      John Legere Just posted: “Unlimited LTE prices go DOWN for families on unlimited w/4th line free ($180 now vs $220 before).”

      • jmpstar

        Awesome! Thanks for the heads up! I was actually just wondering that!

    • Alex Wagner

      Yep, was just about to update the post. The fourth line free promo applies to all of the new Simple Choice plans, but only for a limited time.

  • mreveryphone

    So my 5gb of hotspot will be 10gb now?

    • OZ

      Need to migrate to the new plan.

  • OZ

    Got feedback from chat today regarding Gov. Discount. It applies to the new Amped plan.

  • VG

    FYI John Legere is on Twitter right now (10:20pm EST), tweeting clarifications about the new plans.

  • SAM FERNANDEZ

    ljg500 .. incorrect your plan is not going to change automatically T-Mobile is not forcing anyone to switch if you want to double your data you have to call T-Mobile and change your plan to the new SIMPLE CHOICE AMPED now if you like your current plan just keep it is that simple …

    • ljg500

      You replied before I deleted the old post and made changes. That’s quick!

  • Higher prices is most un-uncarrier…

    • Tale 85

      More like Uncarrier meets reality.

    • Fabian Cortez

      I guess you missed the part where there’s a price reduction for the old 5 GB plan by $5 but an extra GB of data.

    • Kiwini

      Not first or last time Uncarrier is going to increase prices

    • Brian Maher

      That’s why I’m on T-Mobile. (Have you seen what Dumb and Dumber are charging these days?)

  • I’ll have to wait until next month to move to a Simple Choice Amped plan. I got confirmation from T-Mobile on Twitter that prepaid customers on Simple Choice can go on Simple Choice Amped Prepaid starting on Sunday as well.

    • SAM FERNANDEZ

      it all depends on how much you pay on your current plan just do the math to see if the switch to the new plan is beneficial …

      • The new plan is beneficial to me. I’m currently on the Simple Choice Prepaid 3GB plan, which costs $60 + taxes (total to be $64.20, in SC). With the new plan, I’m only going to pay $5.35 more, or $69.55 total for 6GB.

        • Loco Mole

          Keep in mind that not everyone wanted that additional 3GB, so for those people, Tmo is making the pay more for something they didn’t ask.

        • VG

          Again, you’re incorrect. If you don’t change to the new plans, you just stay on the same plan you have today for the same price with the same features.

        • Brian Maher

          Incorrect. (Please do your research). If you don’t want to switch, you stay with what you have. Period.

        • Acdc1a

          In your position I’d be inclined to switch to Metro for $60 all in unlimited unless you travel internationally.

  • ljg500

    At first I thought the doubling of data would be automatic- but apparently not, as others have indicated. It’s interesting that Metro PCS offers unlimited data with a “restricted” 6 GB of tethering for considerably less than the T-Mobile Simple Choice plans. And while the Metro PCS service is “de-priortized” over regular T-Mobile service- at least in my area- this seems to make no difference. I’m rather upset that T-Mobile did not simply double the data for all new and existing plans and keep the same price. For example, if I was an existing customer and didn’t keep abreast of these changes, I might continue to have the 3 GB plan, not realizing that for $5 more, I could have the 6 GB plan. Or pay $60 a month for unlimited data with Metro PCS.

    • SAM FERNANDEZ

      it all depends on how many lines are we talking about ?

      • ljg500

        One…

    • Kiwini

      Metro fine print also says it caps speeds to 8mbps. Thats an important difference. Thats why I’m currently on Straight Talk. Their $45 plan actually increased their data from 3gb to 5gb without any price increases. No extra fees that add 20% to your bill. Lte has been 30-50 mbps in most speed tests but like with every carrier, it depends on coverage where you need it

      • maximus1901

        OMG. you’ve been corrected like seventy-eleven times.
        THE 8MBPS CAP IS FOR SIMPLY PREPAID ON TMOBILE NOT METRO

      • Ed

        MetroPCS does not cap data Speeds. I’ve gotten over 100mps in Novi,MI.

  • Panzer

    The new plan isn’t that great for new customers with a single line. $95 for unlimited + the cost of a phone + insurance for said phone + taxes = on average $140 for a single line. WTF T-Mobile.

    • Loco Mole

      If you’re on the $50 single line, you get an extra GB for free. But otherwise you have to cough up more for something you didn’t ask.

      • VG

        Incorrect. If you don’t change to the new plans, you just stay on the same plan you have today for the same price with the same features.

        • Acdc1a

          OP mentioned new customers

    • itguy08

      At that price you may as well go to AT&T and have better coverage.

      • steveb944

        AT&T has unlimited? I had no idea.

        • Fabian Cortez

          And that’s the point.

          You (not personally you) want to complain but where’s your option?

        • steveb944

          Just because it’s still the best offer doesn’t mean we have to accept it or just take it. We can get more, but pay more. That’s not always a good thing.

          I can’t blame them as they need the profits.

        • Fabian Cortez

          So then what’s your other recourse?

          Come to an online forum? ;)

        • itguy08

          Some of us don’t need unlimited. I pay AT&T $4 more for the same amount of HS gigs that I did to T-Mobile. And get better coverage in most places. I do miss all the perks but sometimes coverage is king.

          Would go back to T-Mobile if/when they get the coverage issue sorted out. Yes, there are plenty of places not quite out in the middle of nowhere that are not T-Mobile friendly.

    • Jrunner

      Yeah, sadly because you almost NEED to get a new phone if your phone is more than 2 years old to even get half of the band 12 new network, I left and joined my wife on AT&T sharing 2 GB data. We don’t use that much, my iphone 5c isn’t getting the benefit of the t-mobile network upgrades, and her iphone 4 wouldn’t be worth much on the network either. Lots of value in the lower end plans still but the cost would still be higher for us by the time all is said and done, AND having to pay more to upgrade phones. Maybe we’ll be back someday when it’s time to upgrade… Until then, keep adding value t-mobile. As far as unlimited plans at this point, you’d almost be better off getting the “cheap” value plan and just getting a low tier broadband plan on special if you’re going through that much data… slowly pricing out the unlimited plans

      • Fabian Cortez

        Don’t be silly.

        If you want to take advantage of T-Mobile’s network, you have to make the investment in a device that supports said network.

        The same goes for any other carrier.

        It just seems less likely on the duopoly since they’ve had low band for decades.

    • Moby

      That’s because they don’t want people signing up for unlimited plans anymore. Get it? But instead of not offering them altogether, they are just raising the price so that most people will opt for lower plans.

  • steveb944

    Just when you thought their plans couldn’t be more confusing.

    Way to be very Carrier-like T-Mobile.

    • Acdc1a

      It would be much easier if they split it into 2 plans. Single line Simple Choice and Simple Choice Family.

      • Bklynman

        You shold email this idea to John.See what it what he says. Tell him we want simple plans that easy to understand.

        • Acdc1a

          I tweeted it to him. All silent

        • Bklynman

          What I read on here he does get messages,email him too. Sooner or later someone should get back to you.

    • Fabian Cortez

      They’re only confusing if you compare them to the previous Simple Choice.

      As a new customer, they’re pretty straight forward.

      • steveb944

        Considering Legere had to go on a Twitter run, it’s not that straightforward. And that chart doesn’t help their case.

        • Fabian Cortez

          What part of “as a new customer” did you not get out of my statement?

        • Kiwini

          Even as a new customer, certain features only apply to certain plans. Its not simple if you can’t even get Tmobile reps to accurately answer questions. And now they got rid of Test Drive, which allowed potential customers to try the network before porting a number

        • Fabian Cortez

          T-Mobile, and other companies, representatives never receive the proper training in time.

          Likewise, the issue with communication at this point lies with existing customers, not new ones.

        • maximus1901

          “a as new customer” that part

  • name

    I don’t like these plans.

    Last week when Sprint introduced its new plans, starting at $40 with 1GB, I thought T-Mobile needed new plans to compete.

    Maybe T-Mobile is trying to compete more with AT&T and Verizon and less with Sprint, I don’t know, but I still think T-Mobile needs to compete with lower prices.

    Plans starting at $40 1GB would’ve been nice.

    I know it has $40 plan prepaid, but is not the same.

    I don’t like Music Freedom and Binge On included and I do believe they go against Net Neutrality because they’re prioritizing certain data by certain services by amount against the rest. What if I want to stream 10 hours of video a month from archive dot org or from some public library? I think I would need to have the $65 plan, while someone with a $50 plan can watch the same amount or more via Netflix. This is not about: why them and not me? this is about neutrality on the web, every service big or small, popular or unpopular should have the same priority.

    I’d okay with Music Freedom and Binge On if they where options be it for $1 each or $5.

    I’ll continue with T-mobile because I see it as the lesser of four evils.

    I wanted to move to Simple Choice from Simply Prepaid, but not after this change. I just hope they make the right changes to Simply Prepaid when they do… simple plans with tethering (like it is) but with more options; bring roaming put a price; allow more lines by account with a discount including for data-only lines, so people can build their family plans.

    That’s all.

    Defend Net Neutrality.

    • frankinnoho

      Competing on price is a horrible idea. And they already have the $30 Walmart plan, not to mention MetroPCS is all about price. TMO needs to compete on value. While these new plans were presented badly, they still represent a good value. (Except for the new Unlimited plan. It’s better then anything Verizon or ATT have, but it’s hard to justify for someone who has the old Unlimited, especially the 2 for $100)

    • Acdc1a

      T-Mobile has prepaid to compete on the low end.

      Net neutrality has nothing to do with unlimited streaming as it’s open to any service.

    • I’ve thought about the Net Neutrality argument for a while and my conclusion is this: Music Freedom and Binge On are actually streaming at 2G-like speeds. Most music streaming services get 320 kbit/s (or under ⅓ Mbit/s) maximum. Binge On further compresses video, from my understanding, so files are ⅓ their original encoded size. 480p is ~1 Mbit/s; with Binge On, it uses ~2G speeds.

      • Zacamandapio

        I didn’t know I can stream videos at 2G speeds.
        But good to know. Now I know why Tmo offers all of these added perks.

    • Moby

      You net neutrality fanatics are going to ruin it for the majority of people. I don’t care anything about streaming video from a library. I want to watch services that most people do and those are the ones that are on Binge on. If that doesn’t meet your idea of a perfect world, too bad.

      • name

        I think Net Neutrality shouldn’t “ruin it for everyone” like you say, in this case it just prevents content providers and internet providers from making special deals to make their contents more accessible than others.
        Ask yourself, if the majority of people watch the Netflixes and l listens to the Pandoras anyway why T-Mobile doesn’t just give people more data allotments or make the plans more affordable?
        The Netflixes could still do their compressions and plug their servers at every cell tower if they want as long as there is no special deals or motives to compromise neutrality.
        Net Neutrality is at the core of a free and open internet. Maybe you don’t care about it now, but believe me it’s a big deal.
        What if you want a 1080p movie with your phone connected to the TV and not the 480p?
        Wouldn’t you want to decide what you want and how you wanted?
        I think internet providers should just provide internet, all I want from them is reliability, availabilty, speed, security and privacy.

        • Kiwini

          Are people really watching movies on smartphones in the middle of the day on a regular basis?

        • Moby

          Their plans are already affordable. Compare the price per GB to Verizon and AT&T. T-Mobile is doing their part. And now their not counting certain video services. And if you want uncompressed video, you can still get that as well.

          I don’t care what you net neutrality folks want. I want the most service for the least amount of money. And when the neutrality ideals infringe on that, then we have to rise up against neutrality.

  • Bklynman

    I need some help here,still confuse about these new plans.
    1)I have $60.00 amonth 3 gb plan,now if I switch to get 6 gb,for $5.00
    more,do I lose my unlimted Data dash or not?
    2)I have let Tmobile know don’t want this new plan or they wil move me automatic to it or not?
    3)If I do switch I turn it off,(unlimted video)my data dash goes back being unlimted or I give that up once I accept the double my data?
    Thank you.

    • Blake

      I’ll assume you mean “data stash” when you say data dash.

      1) If you go to the 6GB plan for $65/mo you will keep data stash, if you drop down to the 2GB plan for $50/mo you will lose data stash

      2) The switch is opt-in, you have to ask for it

      3) If you opt out of BingeOn then your data stash is unlimited, it’s only BingeOn that affects this but I believe it is turned on by default. To opt out, text “DATAROLL” to 6255 for each line by December 16, 2015.

      • mrpickem

        The new limited data stash is 20GB, so if you got more than that, you’re probably not using your data anyways. 20GB seems quite adequate to me

        • Bklynman

          That’s not the point,when they came up with data stash,it is your data,they wrote in the ads you should keep it,now they change it. which they shouldn’t have. What i have been reading on here
          lots of people are not too happy about this.

        • Acdc1a

          Come on now. What is anyone saving more than 20GB for? A Netflix binge in the future? Wait…that problem has been addressed.

        • mrpickem

          You can opt out and keep unlimited data stash if that’s what you want to do. My point is if you have that much you don’t even need it. Any time you change your data plan, the stash resets anyways, so it’s not like you could reduce your data plan and use the stash.

        • maximus1901

          we’ll see their q4 churn numbers if this site’s patrons are representative of everyone else.

        • Blake

          20GB is reasonable, especially when streaming isn’t counted against it. The only issue I have with it is that it kind of goes against their whole “overpaying for data” thing and just makes things more confusing. “Well your data stash is unlimited, unless you use BingeOn, which is only available on 3GB and up plans, of which we don’t offer a 3GB plan anymore, and then it’s limited to 20GB”. It just goes against the simplicity and transparency they’ve touted for so long, even at the event. Remember music freedom? That was for everyone, period, no catches, no qualifications on how much data you had. Same with international roaming. But data stash, binge on, canada/mexico – not so much.

        • Kiwini

          Exactly

        • ljg500

          Now I AM confused. I’m on the 3gb Simple Choice plan. If I turn Binge On off, my data stash is unlimited? Still 10 gb? Up to 20 gb ( or is that with Binge On On)? If the data stash is unlimited, why would I ever elect the unlimited plans? Even use Binge On?

      • Bklynman

        LoL,Yes I did,data stash,thank you.

  • Bruce Wayne

    They just made things even more confusing. I think I’ll be switching to MetroPCS unlimited data plan. I hear it’s really good.

    • Bklynman

      They have,if it is confusing to us,I think it will be just as confusing to sale people,and cs reps.

      • Kiwini

        And people are asking what’s confusing. There are things you need to opt in or out of… Things in your account that will change automatically etc

    • Fabian Cortez

      But you’re rich.

      • Bruce Wayne

        Yes but I also prefer simplicity.

        • Fabian Cortez

          These plans are simple for new customers.

    • Zacamandapio

      I think Metro is perfect for a single line. But for family plans TMo rocks. I’ve 5 lines and 2 tablets. Couldn’t be happier.

    • Kiwini

      Just realize d Metro caps at 8mbps so read fine print. Depends on how much data you use and what speeds you need/are used to.

      • randian

        No, that’s Cricket. Metro doesn’t cap speeds.

      • Bruce Wayne

        Hmm…that’s not good to hear. It’s all good anyway. I spoke to a rep and he was able to get me a lower bill for the same amount of data I use right now.

    • Brian Maher

      See you back here REAL soon…

      • Bruce Wayne

        Sooner than you expect actually. I spoke to a CSR trying to get my number switched but he persuaded me to stay by keeping my monthly payments the same while giving me even more data. I can’t complain.

  • Kevin Fowler

    Soon it won’t matter which carrier you pick, you will pay the same. So there will not be a incentive to pick tmobile.

    • yankeesusa

      That may be the case, but as of now their is an incentive. Especially when verizon is about to add $20 to their unlimited grandfathered plans and plan to charge you $20 activation fee on what used to be free with a lease plan.

      • Acdc1a

        Activation fees are BS.

        • yankeesusa

          Yea, with sprint i had always been able to get it waived, not anymore. With tmobile, there are non and with verizon you used to be able to get them waived but not anymore and this new activation is new since lease plans waived it automatically.

        • Kiwini

          Tmobile Twitter rep told me there was a $15 activation fee. They need better training.

      • Brian Maher

        Yep, I just read about that today…

    • Fabian Cortez

      Binge On and no overages.

    • Chris

      Not really. Because Verizon can always say, hey we’re better than T-mobile, let’s add more to our prices. Then they increase plans by $20. So It’s going to end up with Verizon on much higher price range and T-mobile although lower than Verizon is still higher than today. It’ll drive the prices up which is separate from what the Uncarrier move initially.

    • Brian Maher

      I’ll be long gone by that time.

  • dontsh00tmesanta

    So those of us on the 2 for 100 can have binge on?

    • Frankwhitess

      Yes!

      • dontsh00tmesanta

        yea just confirmed it 4x over yay.

    • maximus1901

      the 2 for $100 unlimited? no
      2 for $100 10gb/each? probably yes

      • dontsh00tmesanta

        just checked and yes we will have binge on

  • Keep it simple

    The more uncarrier moves T-Mobile puts out the less uncarrier they become. The simple choice plans are anything but simple now. You are told one thing when you sign up, but then 3 months later some new uncarrier move comes out that makes you add more to your bill or change your plan. T-Mobile still offers better value than all the other major U.S. cell phone network providers, but they are becoming way to confusing to keep up with all the offers and how they effect your bill. If it’s not your job to know this stuff then you can get lost easy.

    • yankeesusa

      Nothing is being added to current accounts. Current customers keep the same pricing they have had. Don’t know what is so difficult to understand about that.

      • Chris

        Current customers also get Binge On automatically.

        So if you have unlimited and does not want 480p video, you’ll have to disable it. And it’s a per line basis.

        • stuman74

          I was told exactly that as well via online chat with T-Mobile. I’ll disable Binge On for my primary line which has grandfathered $20 unlimited data. For the other 4 lines on my plan which each have 2.5 GB, I’ll toggle it on.

  • Loco Mole

    Higher prices, and sooner or later degraded network quality when people binge.

    I guess they can only keep the magic for so long. Bills to pay and bosses to satisfy. Milk the customers! Throw them some carrots to make it look good.

    I’m not a Tmo hater. I just don’t see them any different than the other telcos. They may be a bit better around the curves, but not by much and not for long.

    • yankeesusa

      It was said months ago that by now the network would degrade but it hasn’t. Like they have said over and over, they have been building up and upgrading the network to handle the increased traffic, something att didn’t do. Plus, this new binge video thing only works if you turn it on which uses technology that helps alleviate the data usage. But yea, the possibility of degraded network is there but so far it hasn’t. Att and verizon both didn’t pay attention to that and had degraded network.

      • Chris

        It is on by default starting 15th on all customers. You have to go to My T-mobile and turned it off for everyone in your plan. It’s a per line basis.

    • Fabian Cortez

      Binge On is meant to address congestion.

    • Chris

      Binge On is meant to handle congestion because everyone that has it on will be streaming at 480p* DVD quality. Which looks ok but not great.

      • Loco Mole

        From the little details, I understand they’re doing some kind of transcoding to mobile presentation. However, there is going to be diminishing return and a penalty to due their binge on carrot. If 1 movie now takes 1/3 the bandwidth (optimistically speaking, but it could be lesser reduction), but due to binging, there may now be 4 or more movies being streamed, then you’ll see much higher traffic utilization, not to mention higher demand and saturation at the source.

        Someone has to pay somewhere.

    • Kiwini

      I’ve never understood why people on this blog were always so intent on Tmobile surpassing Sprint in # of customers. That was never going to improve your coverage and speeds. More customers, more traffic, Mo problems likely

      • Loco Mole

        Huh?? Did I say anything about that? That never even occurred to me, re: Sprint getting bypassed by Tmo. You read too much between the lines, or overly sensitive about that particular issue.

    • Brian Maher

      I’ve heard this for the past 15+ years. Hasn’t happened yet.

      • Loco Mole

        What hasn’t happened? LTE has’t been around for 15+ years. Video streaming even in lowly 480 hasn’t been around for that long either.

  • Johnnola504

    OK can anyone clarify this for me. I keep getting contradicting answers. I have the two lines $100 unlimited plan. Is my tethering going to go automatically 14 GB from 7GB?

    • frankinnoho

      No. You, like myself, have what is now the grandfathered Simple Choice (SC). That program ended in July when they released Simple Choice North America (SCNA). That program will end on November 15 when they release New Simple Choice (NSC). New Simple Choice Unlimited is Simple Choice plus North America roaming plus 14 GB tethering, but $15 more. 2 lines of NSC now $140.
      Binge On is completely separate, so you can keep your old SC 2 line plan and tether 480p video free. I am going to keep my grandfathered SC 2 line Unlimited, the extra tethering hardly seems worth the extra $40, especially when video now free.

      • fkillah

        Thank you, i was wondering the same, i have 3 lines and pay $140. I figured i would have to pay $180 to keep the unlimited.

        • Chris

          T-mobile sent out texts before when they grandfathered in Simple Choice. They guarantee no increase on prices for those.

        • maximus1901

          that’s not for unlimited plans.
          for this, it’s for 2 years

      • Dazed and Confused

        Thank you for that explanation!

      • DataHawg

        Thanks. This is the plan I have as well. I rarely tether my WiFi only Nexus 7 so tethering is not important to me. Roaming becomes an issue for us occasionally when we travel but that isn’t worth an extra $40 per month either. I’m keeping SC 2 lines for $100 also

  • gg555

    Bummer. I’m not going to pay more money. This makes no sense when Sprint is undercutting T-Mobile’s prices already. T-Mobile no longer has the best deals. Raising prices in the face of that seems dumb.

    • randian

      T-Mobile obviously believes that their network is enough better than Sprint’s that they don’t have to compete on price with Sprint.

      • Acdc1a

        It’s not even that. They’re abandoning single lines and pushing multi-line accounts.

        • Kungaloosh

          Have a look at last few T-Mobile earnings calls on YouTube. You’ll hear Sievert, Legere, & Carter explain why they like multi-line family accounts.

        • randian

          I think all the carriers price their postpaid single lines like that. They seem to want singles to go prepaid instead. If only I could get 3 other people (who won’t defect and open their own family plans) to join me I could take advantage of the multi-line bonanza.

        • Kiwini

          Tmobile should do a friend’s planplan where each friend gets & is responsible for their own bill

        • maximus1901

          that’s called framily.

        • Angela

          It was a friasco was what it was. Lol.

        • maximus1901

          framily!

      • Fabian Cortez

        Sprint is no longer a competitor.

      • gg555

        I can’t believe for most people, in major metropolitan areas, this is an issue. They’re probably about equal, in actual practical experience.

        More likely, T-Mobile thinks all of their uncarrier benefits justify the price hike (data stash, music streaming, binge, international data and texting). People will have to decide if those things are worth it.

        • DStudio

          I don’t think this is true in most places west of the Rockies (and maybe many places east of the Rockies as well)!

          In So. Cal. (especially if you’re not close enough to LA) Sprint can be much more frustrating than the other carriers in daily use.

          But as a secondary/backup carrier (e.g. with a hotspot) they can be fantastic.

    • yankeesusa

      Yea bummer if you have both tmobile and sprint coverage because tmobile data is by far more reliable and faster than sprint. I had verizon when i worked for them and had sprint as my personal line, now my wife has that sprint account and i have tmobile and over 80% of the time my data speeds double hers. It’s still more cost effective to choose tmobile because of all you get and ONLY if you get tmobile coverage in your area.

      • Kiwini

        Any carrier only makes sense if they provide good coverage where you need it. Doesn’t matter how cheap of you can’t make a call or check your email… Wonder how people are fairing with Google Fi and if that strategy of wifi /mobile data hybrid will be the future

        • yankeesusa

          Yep, whether it be t-mobile,att, Sprint or Verizon you need coverage to be able to use it. For me t-mobile works just fine. If it didn’t then I would choose a company that does work. Don’t understand all the complaining and putting down of a company that doesn’t work for you but works just fine for millions others.

      • DStudio

        T-Mobile has very good speeds and coverage here in So. Cal. I’m much happier with them than Sprint on an iPhone. I even prefer T-Mobile over Verizon for their voice coverage and clarity right now.

        Nevertheless, Sprint (like Vz and AT&T) has a more robust, “corporate strength” data network. When I have a good signal (or even an OK signal – Sprint LTE is often “one bar everywhere!”) I can depend on their Spark hotspots.

        T-Mobile has a fast “consumer grade” network which fluctuates significantly in performance. While they compensate for this with better coverage and (usually) better speeds, I’m not sure I’d call them more “reliable.”

        • yankeesusa

          Like I’ve said before, it varies by area. T-mobile is by far better in data speed and reliability here where I live. I have both t-mobile and Sprint and over 90% of the time my data on t-mobile is over 30mbps and most times in bigger cities at around 50. My Sprint phone rarely hits 25mbps. Not to mention I use the hotspot feature frequently on t-mobile and can’t on Sprint plus the volte is great, something Sprint can’t do on spark. But again, it depends where you live.

        • DStudio

          Yes, T-Mobile has these advantages and is certainly delivering a better phone user experience for you, as it is for me. T-Mobile was my first (and only) mobile carrier for years, and I’m still a big fan of theirs, and of the way they roll out new plans and networks more quickly than anyone else seems able to do.

          But for data I’ll take a 15mbps Sprint connection over a 25mbps T-Mobile connection. I probably need double the speed on a T-Mobile connection to ~emulate the performance and consistency of the Sprint connection.

          T-Mobile (as well as Verizon and Sprint) are impressing me with their vastly upgraded speeds this year.

          But as impressed as I am with the T-Mobile network upgrades, they’re still not as robust as the competition (this may also be why they’re more agile). But this isn’t a regional issue – it’s in their network’s design.

    • Acdc1a

      In most parts of the country, Sprint just plain sucks. My friend’s business switched in Detroit and you cannot use LTE in downtown Detroit.

      • maximus1901

        that’s cause no lowband cause it’s on canada border.
        probably lack of b41 is also reason

    • Chris

      You don’t have to if you don’t need the double data Amped thing.

      If you want to stay on your old Simple Choice plan that’s ok, because Binge On will also be available to those customers. It’s the Amped that has raised prices because they have double the data.

      • Kiwini

        That’s why people see it as shady.. Its just new rate plans and tiers. Don’t promote it as doubling the data which implied you weren’t changing pricing.

  • Frankwhitess

    You guys have to understand.. T mobile is eventually going to have the same coverage and amount of people as Verizon and at&t …. Which means they will have to spend more to up keep the network and also charge more for the unlimited data plan to keep balance to the force….

    To get a better idea,.. Try to imagine if t mobile deployed 4 lines everything unlimited including data for $100.00 and t mobile had 90 million customers….

    How congested do you think there network would be ??? This is the reason unlimited price is going up…to keep balance. If you want unlimited data, your going to have to pay a bit more..

    Think of how at&t network was when they had unlimited data and they carried the I phone… Their network was HORRIBLE!!!!!!

    Best advise I can give is get a unlimited data plan now and hold on to it… As t mobile grows,.. There plans will only continue to go up and up!!

    Food for thought. Knowledge is Power.

    • Kiwini

      Well even unlimited is capped isn’t it at 20-24 gb or so? Just remember grandfathering is always a courtesy. They don’t have to continue to honor them in the future, especially since you’re not under contract

      • maximus1901

        if they ever take my 2 for $100 + $40 plan, i’m gone to cricket.

      • Brian Maher

        I was grandfathered under a plan for 13 years with T-Mobile. I’m not worried.

    • DStudio

      There are three forms of the word ‘their.’ I guess Knowledge is Power!

      • Frankwhitess

        O come on…… Dude… Really? Sorry.. I will fix it…

  • Tim

    T-Mobile needs to add PCS LTE in Atlanta and enable CA because there’s a huge congestion issue here.

    • Fabian Cortez

      Binge On should fix that.

  • Glenn Gore

    The new plans aren’t bad, but to conveniently omit mentioning price increases this large at the event, while understandable for the PR implications, was shady to the max. As others have said, T-Mobile is starting to play with the big boys, coverage and population numbers-wise, so to get there it takes a lot of money and that requires rates comparable to those big boys. None of that is surprising, but to those who came to T-Mobile when they were a Top-10 market/urban-only carrier with extremely cheap rates for real unlimited data, these steps towards true nationwide-carrier status are a bit hard to swallow. They will have to get over it.

    • Chris

      Probably the reason why I would never give up my original Simple Choice Plan.

    • Kiwini

      People make the mistake of thinking Tmobile or John Legere is your friend. They’re a publicly traded company trying to make money for shareholders. They made changes to make people switch & give them a try. The bigger they get, the more congested the network & the more expensive the plans. If things are feasible, other carriers will copy. Not price wise but in terms of simplification, Verizon has actually made things simple

      • Brian Maher

        …but the drawback there is that it’s verizon…

  • Fabian Cortez

    Additionally, T-Mobile has told me that its limited time fourth line free promo applies to all plans. So, for example, you could get 4 lines of unlimited for $180 ($80+$60+$40+4th line free) per month.

    That’s better than 2 for $100!

    • Guest

      What plan/phone do you currently have?

    • Ascertion

      That’s the same as the 2 for $100. Each additional line was $40/month wasn’t it?

      • That’s true. Just added my best friend to my 2/$100 unlimited family plan, and it’s an addition $40. So for 4 lines, it would be $180.

        • Kiwini

          Hope he stays your best friend and pays you on time

        • Thanks. My best friend is a she, and I believe she will.

    • randian

      Slightly better pricing ($45/line) but you have to get 4 people to make it work. A lot harder to do.

  • Joshua Pan

    Will the 4 for 100 2.5 gb plan be doubled or get cheaper?

    • Moby

      No it will not get doubled nor get cheaper.

    • B_Eng

      I would strongly suggest switching to the 4 for $120 with 10GB per line while it’s still available. It’s only $5 more per line with 4x the data allowance.

      • RideScheduler.com

        How do these changes effect those with 4 for $120 with 10GB per line? I previously saw on my t mobile account that it states that I will be automatically upgraded to the new plan but it no longer states that. What would this change (upgrade) include? Just add Video Binge?

        They really need early access to an online tool that will answer all of these questions by showing the options and the net results in services and price. Just like the Change Plan option in my account.

        • B_Eng

          It shouldn’t affect it and you should be able to keep the terms of the original promo. I also wonder whether Video Binge will apply. If I were to guess, it probably only applies if you switch to the new Amped plans. This really is confusing as all hell.

          Edit: It looks like if you want Video Binge, they have a 4 line family plan for the same price, but with 6GB per line. So the question is, do you stream more than 4GB of video per month? If yes, switch to the new Amped plan. If not, keep the original promo.

        • Kiwini

          Probably better to contact Tmobile and get an accurate answer than going by what anonymous posters on a blog say. The problem in my experience is that you can speak to 3 Tmobile reps on a row & you’ll get 3 different answers. Thats one reason I ended up leaving

        • Blake

          There’s no ‘new plan’ to upgrade to. Binge On is available to anyone with at least 3GB/line. You can stay on your promo rate and just add Binge On.

      • Blake

        A word of caution though, you will lose any discounts you have. For me it would have effectively been $10 more per line.

        • Brian Maher

          Exactly. the 2.5GB plan gives us a 15% Government discount. I’d lose that if I switched over.

    • Brian Maher

      We’re on this one. I guess we’ll see in 2 days if we get 5GB data.

  • kev2684

    why does T-Mobile hate single people so much?! $95 before EIP, taxes and fees. are you kidding me?! that’s easily $130-140/mo! who do you think you are, Verizon?

    • Acdc1a

      They have Metro for those customers at $60. Sucks not to get to play in the postpaid arena though.

    • I agree! I been saying this for the longest. They never have great plans/promotions for individual lines. They’ve always put their focus on family plans.

      • Kiwini

        And all the other perks never apply to the basic plan anyway

      • maximus1901

        maybe they know something you don’t. like family plans have better churn, etc

        • It’s not as if I do or don’t know. I’m just saying, they never have great plans for individual/single lines.

    • Chris

      This is what I’m starting to hate and I do have family plan.

      The reason they went to “Simple Choice” was because they wanted to simplify it their plan to consumers.

      But now it’s back to the complicated bat shit it was before.

      Now for those who haven’t switched to the new plans.
      You have 4 new options:

      Stay with your Classic Simple Choice.
      Or upgrade to Simple Choice North American Plan.
      Or upgrade to Simple Choice North American Plan (2 -10) lines 10 GB each line.
      Or upgrade to Simple Choice Amped!

      It’s like we’re back to were we freaking started.
      A globbered shit of offerings.

      • I was understanding that the only plan would be the Amped plans for now on. So the options confusion is only going to last a week or so.

        ETA: I don’t care for these new plans, but in a week it won’t be so batshit.

        • Brian Maher

          Other plans will be gone in 2 days and 2 hours from now.

        • You’re right, something about current accounts is rolling out Nov. 19, my bad.

    • Moby

      So sign up before Sunday and you lock in the $80 price.

    • cellularcrazy09

      John warned that unlimited prices would probably go up. But with all the free perks tmo gives without counting towards your data, why does anyone need unlimited?

    • lomsha

      Most companies hate us single people lol.

    • Bklynman

      Maybe Tmobile should start there only date site,for tmobile users only,that would be real uncarrier move,it would be free,just have proof you have Tombile
      as your service. LoL

    • randian

      They want you to pay $60-taxes to Metro rather than $95+taxes direct.

      • Kiwini

        Metro is deprioritized and capped at 8mbps. Thats the difference

        • gmo8492

          Metro is not capped at 8mbps, they only do that with “simply prepaid” which is meant to be more in line with Cricket’s pricing scheme.

    • yankeesusa

      Yea, that’s what it seems. I am still on the $70 unlimited plan and i was able to get a deal a couple months back and with my 12% off from work i pay under $50 every month.

      • Brian Maher

        T-Mobile is great with grandfathering you in old plans. I was on their $29.99 300 min., free weekend, 300 text, 30 picture message and 1 MB T-Zones (remember that?) plan for 13 years, from 2000 (when it was OmniPoint, BEFORE VoiceStream, which was BEFORE T-Mobile), and they kept me there all those years until we jumped to the current 4-line family plan w/ 2.5 GB for $85 before takes. (15% Government discount).

    • Jay J. Blanco

      Tmobile do have to pay for network upgrades because of all the new traffic plus they are expanding coverage. The plan has great perks though

    • Zacamandapio

      I’m not going to defend Tmobile on this because what you say is true. However, I believe that the reason a family plan is cheaper/per line is because it costs the same to maintain 1-line account that multiple-lines account.
      Probably.

    • Kiwini

      Switch to Straight Talk if you own a GSM phone. $45 for 5gb of LTE (not capped at 8mbps like other prepaids) if that works for you. No extra fees. I pay 46 and change… Tmobile would cost me a lot more for less than half data. I switched from Tmobile pre-Legere and still nothing has made it better for a single person. Its an ATT Sim (for 99 cents not $15)…but no wifi calling but speeds very high in good coverage areas

    • maximus1901

      because single people with unlimited probably use the most data.

    • Blake

      You can be single and be on a family plan, you just have to have multiple lines really. My “family” is my mom, my girlfriend, and two single friends of mine. Just work it out with friends.

    • Brian Maher

      Nope. Verizon would be over $200+

  • patt

    hey guys so my friends has 1X 3GB line and 3x 1GB. Does the upgrade to x2 data gets done by itself? or you have to switch to the AMPED version which might cost little more in his case?

    • lomsha

      It’s not automatic, you keep your plan unless you voluntarily upgrade to amped.

      • patt

        so if he has 3 1GB lines and 1 3GB line will price increase or not?

        • lomsha

          No increase.

        • patt

          I see. So just update account to AMPED right?

        • patt

          oh my bad he has 5 lines 4x 1GB and 1X 3GB. That would still make no difference?

        • Loco Mole

          He’s paying $120 before taxes now. Because of the 5th line, he’ll pay $125 if he updates his plan to AMPed.

        • Alex Long

          Price WILL increase. The 1x3gb for $10 will become 1x6gb for $15 with the new plans. So a $5 increase from his current plan, but all the people with 1gb will also get doubled to 2gb.

        • Blake

          Price will increase if he chooses to enroll in the new plans for 2GB and 6GB of data, but it’s a $5 increase. He may also qualify for the 4th line free promotion so it’s possible the rate will go down.

        • patt

          would that be 5$ increase per line or overall? that’s what my friend is asking :D

        • Blake

          So it’s $5 more per line that goes from 3GB => 6GB. The lines going from 1GB => 2GB would see no price increase. So if he only has one line going from 3GB => 6GB then he’d see a $5 increase overall.

          You can avoid the price increase if everyone moves up in data, but it seems like in your friend’s case that’d require people to spend $30 (3x $10) more to save the $5.

        • patt

          yep thanks and yes only his line has 3GB data. Thanks for your time :D

  • othercents

    What is Simple Global?

    • OZ

      Roaming data + txt included in 130+ countries

      • othercents

        Paid per phone like the current plan, or for the complete family plan like they had a special on before?

        • OZ

          Every line in the family plan.

  • Michael Barnes

    does that mean if i stay on my 80 dollar unlimited do i now get 14gb or am i still at the 7gb tether

    • James

      No. If you want 14GB of tether then you must have to upgrade. Your current plan and its features stay as is.

      • Michael Barnes

        ok thanks at least there upping the tether for people who want to pay extra i rarely use all 7gb tether a month

  • OZ

    Does anyone know if the “video optimization” is applied to all video streams, including YouTube, regardless if they are counted against data or not?

    • dtam

      no, i think that’s the reason why those services aren’t included in the binge on program yet

    • Loco Mole

      No, not automatically applied to all video streams. This is one area where there is scant detail as of yet. What they said about “proprietary technology to optimize streaming video for mobile screen” may sound like transcoding; it’s likely they have to work with the source provider.

      Binge On can be turned on and off on the account settings (not clear if it’s per line, probably is), so you can hotspot to TV or laptop at higher quality.

      • OZ

        Brings me to the point. I was reading a tweet from T-Mobile. Any plan with 3+ GB would be able to hotspot unlimited BingeOn video streams. That sounds too good to be true.

        • Loco Mole

          Right, but Binge On video stream is the lower res vid. So, not great on larger screen. Perhaps ok on tablets.

          As I posted elsewhere, despite the claim that the video optimization will relief congesting, they just piled it back on with binging customers. If 1 movie is 1/3 the bandwidth (very optimistic), then they just lost the battle when 4 movies are being binged. Not to mention more load on the routing infrastructure and the source stream provider as well. But hey, it’s the marketing people who drive the business – after all, that’s what Uncarrier really is, just a marketing concept.

        • maximus1901

          it’s true. i watched the livestream where they said that.
          if you’re ok with 480p on tablet, very good deal.

      • Yep

        YES all streaming is optimized but not all is free!. You are able to shut off optimization in My Account app. This is something you can do if you have unlimited and don’t care about binge on.

        • Loco Mole

          No. See: youtube UDP. They still need to figure that out. From tmobile.com:about Binge On “Video streams at DVD quality (480p+) with Binge On.” You don’t want them to do this to all streaming.

  • Paul

    Pass. They’re basically trying to raise the price on the plans, sans the $50. I still have the unlimited for $70. I’ll save myself the $25 extra a month, and I don’t need the 14GB of tether.

    • mrpickem

      Smart call, I don’t know why so many people are confused. Just keep what you got…end of story. They have to have a carrot to dangle…to try to get you to change/pay more.

      • Kiwini

        Because they’ve made it confusing with certain perks & promotions applying to certain plans but not others. They announce a perk but then the fine print excludes this or that or applies to one plan but not another.

        • maximus1901

          omg they’re a business not your parents; it’s their job to get more money from you. just be glad the sprint tmo merger wasn’t approved otherwise prices would be higher.

        • frankinnoho

          Best reply ever!!!!

    • OZ

      Stick to it, forever

      • SpaceGho5t

        $70 unlimited 4 LIFE!

        • maximus1901

          3 lines on family unlimited (2x for $100 + $40 addi) . . .for LIFE!

        • Brian Maher

          4 lines on family unlimited w/ 2.5 GB for $85…for LIFE!!! (We’ve got the 15% Government discount!)

        • Jose

          5 lines family 2.5 gb unlimited for $110 for LIFE!!!

    • gmo8492

      Yup, I’m on the same plan. Never giving that up until they force me off it.

  • OZ

    Will plans under 3 GB be benefited by video compression?

    • VG

      Yes. But your video streaming will still count against your high speed data allotment.

  • nutmac

    Two things for sure: (1) T-Mobile wants account with lots of lines to boost number of customer and (2) T-Mobile wants to steer people away from unlimited.

    To this end, I frankly think T-Mobile can do better.

    1. Make it easier for larger families to pay responsibly. Allow multiple credit/debit cards, with option to assign certain line(s) to different payment method (falling back to primary payment if the credit/debit card expires or fails).

    Falling back to primary credit/debit card will discourage strangers sharing account to save money.

    2. 10GB with Binge On unlimited video streaming will become very compelling alternative to unlimited, especially as more services get added (e.g., YouTube). At the risk of sounding “carrier”-like, consider adding optional overage.

    This will require 3 parts. (1) 20GB Data Stash with 6GB plan, 40GB Data Stash with 10GB plan, (2) when customer on 6GB or 10GB plan uses all 4G data, including Data Stash, he/she can optionally purchase additional 4GB data at $15 a pop ($10 if Family Match eligible), (3) T-Mobile iOS and Android apps are updated with a widget that displays current data usage AND a button for purchasing additional 4GB data with a single click.

    3. Get rid of promos. T-Mobile plans are very confusing as it is. Simplify. Either make 4th line free permanent or replace it with alternate permanent pricing.

  • PiCASSiMO

    Earlier this year (August), we switch to the 4-lines, 10GB each, for $120. Can someone confirm if we will be able to have the Binge video for each line or do we have to change to another plan and pay $180 ($70 + 50 + 30 + 30)???

    Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

    • VG

      It’s my understanding that any old/current/new lines that have at least 3GB high speed data will have the full BingeOn feature (unlimited video streaming as long as you keep the video compression turned on).

      • B_Eng

        I think that only applies to the Simple Choice plans, which I don’t think the family plan falls under. I hope I’m wrong, because it would be awesome to get the free add-on.

        • VG

          All the postpaid individual and family plans that T-Mobile has had in the last 2-3 years have been called “Simple Choice”, with slight variations (Simple Choice, Simple Choice North America, etc.).

    • B_Eng

      My understanding is that the $120 promo with 10GB for 4 lines remains as is. They’re introducing another 4-line family plan for the same price with 6GB per line, Binge video and 20GB data stash cap. If you consistently stream more than 4GB of video per month, it may be worth it to switch to the new plan. Otherwise, stick with your original promo and the unlimited data stash.

    • VG

      Here is the quote from the FAQ listed at the bottom on t-mobile(.)com/bingeon:
      “Any new or existing customer with 3GB data plan or larger can stream for free without worrying about your data.”

      • PiCASSiMO

        Perfect… thank you, VG.

  • guest

    These plans are not good for T-Mobile itself too, just when they need more customers and cash.

    1.
    They are and look complicated. If we are having troubles understanding
    this, can you imagine regular folks. I guess every one around John Dubia
    Legere is a Yesman.

    2. They look expensive. $50 to $95 for first
    line will scare away many folks way before they understand Family
    Match. $45 to $90 would have been better.

    • Kiwini

      Not everyone is on a family plan. Has Tmobile disclosed what percentage of customers are individuals vs family plans. Tmobile marketing seems so targeted to young people who often are single. I wouldn’t ‘ get into cell phone plans with friends

    • Brian Maher

      I don’t have any trouble understanding the new plans. Must be you? Also, folks won’t get scared away from T-Mobile’s pricing. They just need to look at what Dumb and Dumber are currently charging for the same. Now THAT’S a horror flick.

  • mwolverine

    I am currently on the basic tier 3 line plan (50 + 30 + 10) + a promo for $10 for all lines for unlimited calling to many countries in the world. In total, It’s $100, and with taxes and fees it’s $114.5. I get a corporate discount that amounts to $15, effectively negating all the taxes and fees, so I actually only pay about $99.

    If I am on the basic tier do I get to switch to the Simple choice amped 2GB plan
    a) and still keep my corporate discounts? I heard otherwise
    b) and still keep the promotional $10 per month pricing for all lines to call worldwide

    Also, will I automatically be switched to the simple choice amped plans? Do I have to call and request not to be switched? Or do I get switched only if I request for it?

    Thank you very much.

    • OZ

      1) Corp disc. kept
      2) Promo Stateside price, gone

      • Nearmsp

        If the stateside international plan for families is gone, that is a total deal breaker for me. I knew there would be some catch, because on had to proactively request a change. Thanks for the alert. i am now convinced to stcik with what I have now.

  • msohail

    Confusing and un attractive plans for most.

    • Fabian Cortez

      Sure. More data at a less price is always unattractive.

      And it’s not confusing for new customers, which is what this is being aimed at.

      • msohail

        More data at less price? like $95 for unlimited data which was $80?

        • Brian Maher

          It’s still $80 right now…

    • Kiwini

      They started out trying to simplify plans & they’ve gotten more confusing with each promotion. There are all these exclusions and perks for some & not others. The original announcement was also kind of misleading, implying they were just doubling data for everyone and not stating they were also increasing prices again. Just be straightforward. How about a promotion for single people who aren’t married or relying on mommy & daddy

    • guest

      Agree. They should put it back into the oven.

  • Nearmsp

    So I have 5 lines at 1 GB at $120 and international calling for family at $10 per month. But we have 2.5 GB through the end of the year per line due to an old promotion. I also get corporate discount. If I move to the new plan, would I lose something? Not very clear. I am not going to change my plan if I do not understand what will change.

    • OZ

      If you want all lines to take advantage of Binge On, then it will cost a bit more. If you do not care about Binge On, stick to it.

    • Alex Long

      The 2.5gb stays. A previous Uncarrier move said promotional plans will not expire once you have them.

      If you have enough data, then stay with your plan. You won’t get unlimited video streaming though.

      • Nearmsp

        Thanks Alex and Oz. I will just stick with what I have.

      • Philip

        You sure the 2.5gb stays? I remember it expire end of this year and go back to 1gb.

        • Brian Maher

          John said a while back the 2.5GB plan will stay put. We’re on it (4 lines for $100), and our 15% Government discount works with that plan. We’re paying $85 (before taxes) for the 4 lines.

    • Gseltj

      I had the same plan but changed to the 4 lines 10GB for $120 in July and I lost my government discount. I wish I had stayed on that plan!

  • B-Mobile

    i have a 5 line family plan: 2 – grandfathered $20 unlimited data plans, 2 – $10 3GB data stash plans, and 1 – $0 1GB plan. the grandfathered plans have 5GB hotspot data (unlike the 7GB on the $30 unlimited plan) and i was wondering if they would catch a magical bump to 10GB (prob not) looking at the pricing on Simple Choice Amped & Family Match there is no new plan that saves money, and takes advantage of the new “goodies” for instance the grandfather plans do not include the Mexico and Canada extended coverage (i would have to get on the $30 unlimited plan for that) doesn’t include Music Freedom (but it’s unlimited so it doesn’t really matter does it) the hotspot increase is what i’m really eyeing 10GB would be nice

  • Croq

    I conferred with TMobileHelp, and they told me that for existing users, as long as your plan includes at least 3 GB of data, you will get both Binge On and the increased tethering. I’ll wait and see what actually happens though.

  • gorilla

    Too many different Simple Choice plans, it’s not so Simple anymore.

  • Cheapo

    So this is what everyone should do to save money.

    On Sunday, if you have a family plan, change to the new Simple Choice BingeOn plan with all voice lines having 2GB of data included. Do not sign up to the more expensive data offerings.

    Also, add a tablet line for $10 per month that includes 2GB of data, Data Stash, and BingeOn features. Turn on the Mobile HotSpot on the tablet and you can connect all your devices to receive free video streaming through BingeOn, without touching your phones data or the tablets data.

    I currently have 10 lines and plan on switching to the new plan with 2GB of data per phone and adding a tablet to take advantage of the BingeOn feature to tether other devices to get free video streaming.

    Just a thought.

    • Blake

      You do not get free video streaming with BingeOn, nor Data Stash, with 2GB options. You must have a 3GB or higher plan.

      • Cheapo

        Actually, yes you do with a tablet line. With a tablet, you get BingeOn included with any plan (2GB or higher) and for phones with paid data features…

        Read the FAQ on T-Mobile’s website.

        • Cheapo

          Actually, any tablet line, regardless of the included high speed data, includes BingeOn and Data Stash (except for Match Phone Data plan).

        • Blake

          I’ve read the FAQ on both “Binge On FAQS” and the Binge On page itself, it make no separate provisions for tablets, just that you need 3GB. If it’s written out somewhere else please point it out to me then but I don’t see other FAQs listed.

          I’ll admit I was wrong on the data stash part though, that only needs 1GB.

        • Cheapo

          Look at this webpage : https:// supportT-Mobile.com/docs/DOC-24313#question6

        • Cheapo

          Google “New Simple Choice Plan and Family Match FAQ”

          My comment or awaiting moderation.

        • Blake

          “You can keep the tablet plan at 2 GB or add 4 GB. All lines will get all the Un-carrier benefits, including Binge On, Data Stash, Mobile Without Borders, and Music Freedom.”

          That does NOT mean though that you will get unlimited streaming though. They say every line gets Binge On but the benefits depend on the data amount you have. If you read the Binge On FAQ: https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-24291#subhead2 you can see that Binge On applies to all lines but only those with 3GB or more get the unlimited streaming that doesn’t count toward the data.

          So as far as I can tell, no, the 2GB plan for tablets will not get you streaming though.

          The fact that we have to debate/discuss this and dig around on 3 different pages on their site is proof enough how poorly explained this is though.

        • Cheapo

          Yes, T-Mobile has done a poor job with this Un-Carrier execution. Too many loops to go through.
          I can confirm (my aunt is a supervisor at T-Mobile) that all Mobile Broadband lines will include the BingeOn benefits, including unlimited streaming from those services.
          The reason for this is due to all Mobile Broadband lines having premium data (meaning you pay for it) and the Data Stash Identifier that is placed on all Mobile Broadband lines. The system will automatically whitelist all BingeOn partners on those lines that have a Data Stash Identifier (or “Premium Data”).
          My aunt agrees that this is all confusing, however, I am going to save some money and pay $10 a month to stream from the BingeOn providers with my tablet plan.

        • Cheapo
        • Cheapo

          Check out this FAQ concerning the tablet lines. All tablet lines with Data Stash will include unlimited BingeOn benefits : https://www.t-mobile.com/offer/family-plans-with-data-per-line.html?icid=WMM_TM_SMPLCHCUC1_8MC63PP0SJ3330

        • James

          Yes, that would count on your 2GB of data. However, you have the option to enable and disable it so it doesn’t count in your data.

          If you turn off Binge On™ your favorite services like Netflix, Hulu, HBO, Sling, ESPN and more will not stream for free and will count against your high-speed data. Unlimited customers must be opted-in for the ENTIRE billing cycle in order to receive your free movie rental from Vudu the following month.

  • Deswaga

    So, If I add to my Simple Choice $50 Plan (1GB) to include $10 (3GB) before the November 15 which then Amps me up to (6GB) by the 15th…Would I be in the clear $5 and be grandfathered in or is Tmobile gonna charge me an Extra $5?

    • Blake

      You will not be moved to the 6GB plan. You will remain on the $60 3GB plan. If you want the 6GB plan you will have to change and pay $5 more.

      • Deswaga

        Lol….It was worth an ask and try

        • Blake

          Certainly is. The fact that there’s this much confusion is just evidence of their deviation from the uncarrier ways. They’ve screwed up on this honestly, especially on communication.

        • Brian Maher

          Huh? I understood everything perfectly.

        • Blake

          You may have but others, including myself, did not. They really made it sound like they were doubling people’s data for free, I’m not the only one who had the wrong idea.

        • steven berson

          Agree 100%. It took me some time to figure out this new plan. I can only imagine most people are still confused. Even when you call in I get mixed answers. Anyway this is very uncarrier like. During the announcement it made it seem like everyone was getting double the data at no cost. Most of the rate plans went up and unlimited data is at $95, $15 more! This was carrier like move!

        • lomsha

          Yea even their reps are confused. On the day of the announcement i chatted with one and he told be i could upgrade to 6gb and keep paying $60. Next day i asked again and they said it would be $65, which is what i expected.

    • Apple

      You will be like me and Grandfather in!
      #iPhone4EveryKing

      • Deswaga

        Lol…I was actually seeing if Tmobile had there t’s dotted and i’s crossed

  • kekel1123

    Will i lose my corporate discount with the 4 lines for $120 with 6GB each line?

    • (J²)

      I think T-Mobile did away with corporate discounts when introducing “Simple Choice”.

      • Yep

        promo plans don’t get discounts so if you get 4 lines and 4th is free yes you will lose your corp discount. If you get 4for 120 with 10 gb’s right now you will lose the discount also.

        • Brian Maher

          Customer Care stated they would know by Saturday night if the new 4 lines for $120, 6GB plan would still allow for your Government discount. I’m still receiving my 15% off Government discount on my 4 lines for $100, 2.5 GB plan. Comes out to $85 before taxes.

      • (J²)

        Just an update, a few others have commented and confirmed that they’ve lost their discount when upgrading to new plans.

        • SpaceGho5t

          a while back i remember them removing the discount off my plan, i had to take a picture of my LES and send it to them and they applied it back on. but yeah i dont think the promo plans allow it.

        • kekel1123

          I save their tweets on my phone stating that i can keep my corporte discount on these plans.i will check it if i indeed lost it.still confused though.

        • kekel1123

          I exchanged calls and tweets on @tmohelp and 611.@tmohelpntold me i will not loose my employers discount.But with 611 they told me i will loose it.So i tweeted back and they told me i will not loose it.I called back 611 and now this time they told me I will not loose it.So i changed my plan for 4×120 with 10 GB each .Binge on will be fir eveyone as i was rold so just opt out if you dont want it

      • kekel1123

        I still have it though on my 4x$100 with 2.5 GB data each.

        • Ontwowheels

          Same here

  • (J²)

    Overall, I feel that this is a step in the wrong direction.

    Realistically, it’s a rate hike but at least they come with gifts from T-Mobile.

    There’s not too many scenarios where these changes wouldn’t result in an increase – assuming existing customers were to switch. I will say, it does seem to reward those who want less data or fewer lines on their account.
    The problem is not everyone wants to stream video on a small device at a lower quality while on a cellular connection. Unfortunately, T-Mobile has given customers what they asked for because that’s what the #Uncarrier does.

    What’s really happened in exchange is T-Mobile is showing that “Less is More”. 6GB per line is the new 10GB per line. Just a few months ago, Unlimited Everything was “In” and at almost the same price. That’s another story… Yeah, I know… I agree, Unlimited Data isn’t sustainable…. Yada yada.

    Overall, the #Uncarrier has lived up to the rumors/hype and is taking steps in the right direction but this could be an indication of a subtle change in direction. We’ve seen several major price restructures for family plans this year. T-Mobile may have shifted focus to churning a profit. Although this may not be a big win for everyone, it will certainly succeed at attracting customers from other carriers… I’m willing to bet at an increased rate.

    If T-Mobile were to lower the 2nd Add a Line from $30 to $10 or $15, I think that would make a big difference.

    I’m going to cling to my Unlimited Everything Plan (2 Lines for 100, 40 each additional) as long as possible.

    • PiCASSiMO

      Well said…

    • jdubtrey

      The $70 data tier is going down in price. The $50 plan is getting more data though it was really overpriced before (and still is slightly).

      Unlimited is increasing for new users without a lot of benefit to most of them (I think).

      • (J²)

        The $70 tier was “replaced” after this restructuring. If they kept it, it would have fallen in between 6GB and 10GB, I want to say $70 got you 7GB before? The issue was the 10GB plan was just introduced but for families.

  • Philip

    Can govt discount be added on for this?

    • I know

      no its a promo plan

    • Cheapo

      Yes, if you select normal, standard pricing.

      If you get a promo, such as 4th line free, then no.

  • Grandy Cuban

    I am very disappointed. Someone else posted that TMO is looking more like the other carriers. Very true. I’m fortunate that my Simple, Simple Choise of a year or so ago continues to meet my family’s need. I’ve been sending people to TMO for the longest time. Not anymore.

  • Bklynman

    If I am reading this right on here I can turn it on and off whenever feel like it(Binge)that is. My Data Stash,can go from being only 20 gb,back to being unlimted,is this correct?

    • SirStephenH

      From my understanding you’re only capped while Binge On is enabled.

      • Bklynman

        Other people on here (since more information came out about this plan).
        no,once you made your choice,that is it,can be one or the other. If i call Tmobile up I am sure they won’t know either. This is simple,not.

  • guest

    I just hope they don’t mess up the prepaid plans too.

    If they are going to make changes to prepaid, I have some ideas:

    Plans (update) $40 with 2GB, $50 with 4GB, $60 with $6GB, $70 with 8GB

    Discounts (new) 2nd line $10 off, 3rd line $20 off. (including for data-only lines)

    More Options: #GB roaming for $#

    Who likes this? Have better ideas?

    • Bklynman

      Sent this to John,via email,tweeted,him etc. know that these new plans are very confusing to everyone.

      • guest

        I agree, it’s confusing and not flexible.

        What if you want different plans for each line?

        With what I propose it’s simple you just pick and list any plan in any order and then deduce the discounts.

  • Rob

    This couldn’t have come at a better time for me honestly. I lost my roommate who was the account holder but his family is allowing me to keep the plan… we have a total bill of around 190 bucks right now but if I jump his line to a cheapie and pay that off and cancel it the 50 dollar looks perfect for my usage and I’ll probably jump my Nexus 6 to something else as well for the time being until I know what my finances look like. 10GB for 80 is nothing to scoff at… its no unlimited and I really wish I could keep this 2 for 100 unlimited plan but I just can’t afford it right now.

  • eanfoso

    Soooooo then if we’re on a simple choice plan can we get the extra data or do? Family plan.

    • SirStephenH

      You only get the extra data if you sign up for one of the new Amped plans available starting on the 15th.

      • eanfoso

        That’s kind of crappy, you don’t think I’d be able to take advantage of this in a two for 100$ unlimited to get the extra tethering do you?

        • Rob

          Supposedly the tethering will transfer over to the 2 for 100 grandfathered plan because its all unlimited lines that will get the increase. I just checked my account and it says 7 with the only other data option available being no data. I’d be willing to bet that we won’t get the bump to 14 I mean we are on a steal of a deal plan anyway.

        • eanfoso

          True that, but I need the tethering nowdays oh well hopefully we get the bump regardless.

  • Brook

    With the new 4th line free promo does that mean I can get 4 lines with 2GB of LTE date for $90 ($50+$30+$10+free)? I currently have the 2.5GB promo (4 lines for $100), but it doesn’t come with the other add ons of the newer plans and given my lack of data usage I could switch and save myself $10/month.

    • this still wouldnt have binge on since you need a plan with 3gb or more. you would gain the north american talk and text package

    • James

      No. The $90 ($50+$30+$10) plan with 1GB of data doesn’t qualify for 4th free line. Only $120 ($50+$50+$20) with 10GB of data does qualify for 4th line free so it will turn out to as $30 per line.

    • Brook

      Based on what I’ve seen posted it says ALL plans are eligible for the 4th line free, why wouldn’t the new 2gb per line standard plan qualify?

  • Steven

    Anyone else concerned about these price hikes that come after John Legere “signed a contract” with us that all Uncarrier moves and pricing plans would never change nor go away? This no contract pricing plan was one of the uncarrrier moves anyway to begin with. I’m confused and concerned for what else may change.

    • James

      T-Mobile is not forcing anyone to change or upgrade their exiting plan .. if you want to go for a higher data or new features like “binge on” then only price hike comes in picture.

      • Steven

        I understand its not forced at the moment, but that how these changes happen. I wouldn’t be surprised if some day soon it is forced to go to the new plans. Not saying it will, it just makes you wonder.

  • dontsh00tmesanta

    Is binge on a per account setting or a per device setting? I have 3 devices 2 of which would like to utilize this on

    • James

      Not sure but I guess it should be per account setting. I think nothing to do with individual device setting, because you may keep changing your connected device.

      • dontsh00tmesanta

        That sucks

        • Dcwiker05

          I would guess per device but you can’t change it in your phone (unless they build it into the My T-Mobile app) But considering they can make things like caller tunes, family control, and the like per line via the Web, I would think this can be too. But you’re all going to have to be on the qualifying plan.

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          Just checked today and it is per device

  • Ted Cruz Truth

    How come I only hear crickets from the cages of Fabian and all the other rah-rah T-Mobile cheerleaders out there?

    Could it be because they too feel hoodwinked by everyone’s (formerly) favorite CEO?

    Since he’s such a “cool dude,” as some of you have somehow surmised, please let us know how your Twitter exchanges go with Legere. I’m sure he is happy to spend his Friday evening talking to you. Maybe not about his company, and its amateur attempts to cloak price increases under more fancy Un-Carrier initiatives. But he’ll talk about his shirts… the upcoming concerts he plans to crash… whatever will work with his greasy image.

    Or maybe you finally figured that Legere and “binge on” are all about feasting on your bank account. Just another corporate slime-ball he is, dear friends…

    • lomsha

      I guess you haven’t seen the many customers in this comment section including me, calling him out on hiding the price hikes and other details during the announcements. I also called him out on it on twitter and he tried to confuse me with some more double talk lol.

      • Ted Cruz Truth

        Kudos for calling him out on Twitter. Legere’s hubris is kinda out of control these days…

  • T Mobile has been very close to losing me as a customer. First, because of overcharging, then saying it would be credited back, then when it wasn’t, saying that had nothing from the rep saying I would receive a credit. Now with the price hikes? Maybe I should take this V10 back tomorrow and be on my way. Yes, Verizon is a little higher, but better network and more Corp discounts. Even though they aren’t making us change our plan now, what about when you jump to a new phone? I’m sure they are going to try to make it a requirement down the line. I mean Verizon has a $80 18GB/month plan right now. After 9 years, I may have to move on

    • randian

      It’s 18gb for $100 not $80, and that doesn’t include the line charge of $20/phone.

  • elite

    Couple Questions

    1. On the 15th, will $10 Match your Data still be available or grandfathered?

    2. What about prepaids on the 15th? Did they grandfather the 1, 3, and 5GB plans so now new customers coming in have to choose between $50 for 2gb, $65 for 6gb, $80 for 10gb and $95 for unlimited?

    3. Is BingeOn really beneficial to customers that need unlimited data, I mean if people are browsing the web for news, facebook, instagram, and youtube then where does BingeOn come into play?

  • Joe

    If I switch to Binge On and double my data, will I get to keep my grandfathered plan discount? I’m not adding a line. Just switching it to Binge On and double my data. I haven’t switched to the North America plan yet because I was scared I’d lose the discount.

    • Joe

      Just to clarify. I’m on a grandfathered non-government discount. Basically people can’t get my discount anymore but I’m grandfathered in. 15% off. This is different than the government discount that’s still available today.

  • Timothy Poplaski

    Sounds a lot more like the, “Not So Simple Choice Plan” to me.

    Confusing as heck.

  • Sub

    I’ll just stick to my grandfathered $70 unlimited data, thanks.

  • Un-bargain…

    I truly have enjoyed my legacy with Tmobile and to some degree John Legere minus the profanity. However, this uncarrier move is an Un-bargain …. because buried beneath the bravado of CEO John Legere at his online press conference was a price hike. The change in the unlimited plan was buried under a mass of other details and non-sense. Simply said, I will keep my grandfathered data plan…

    • IamTwone

      Exactly i cant even refer friends to tmobile anymore. Friends with sprint unlimited aren’t going to come to tmobile to pay $95 a month for just the service. I just called today to confirm my select choice plan i got earlier this year would stick for atleast 2 yrs. because i am only paying $50 for the base and $20 unlimited lte on 2 line and $5 addon on the other 2 and $10 for 3gb on 1 of those lines. Every since i joined tmobile last Ive been glad i came in at a good time because they changed jump and prices keep going up.

  • Don B.

    I currently on $100 4 lines 2.5gb promo. I have two lines that unlimited, one $20 and other $30. Can I switch my base plan to the new simple choice amped base plan? While retaining my unlimited and gov discount?

    • Don B.

      Talk to T-Mobile and I would have to switch my unlimited service.

    • OZ

      Nope you can’t. Stick to the one you have.

  • OZ

    $5 unlimited stateside international talk cannot be ported over to the new plans.

  • Bryck

    Just upgraded my 5gb to the New (6 GB), which is the old ( 3 GB) and saving $5 dollars monthly on the new plan. I can’t see the reason to justify 10 GB bucket at the moment especially with Music Freedom and Bing On included.

    • lomsha

      Does your account mention anything about simple choice amped? On mine it gives the option to change to the new data buckets, but still shows the grandfathered simple choice and simple choice north america.

      • Bryck

        Mine updated immediately

      • Bryck

        Didn’t notice The “Amped” word.

      • Bryck

        If you’re a new customer it might, but I’ve only changed my data bucket ” data service” .

        • lomsha

          Thanks, that’s what I thought.

        • Bryck

          No problem.

  • alex

    Upgraded my two 1gb lines to 2gb free of charge.. tuned on bingeon on my 5gb $10 tablet plan.. all done online.
    Love it..

  • Pankul

    Did anyone notice that the 2GB plan has 120 countries, vs 1 GB plan has 140 countries for free data roaming etc.

  • disqus_DFnvXJ7c9h

    I don’t understand.. the Simply prepaid plans are $50 for 3gb of data and simple choice is $50 for 2gb.. what am I missing here? both have binge compression and no stash. Why would someone go with simple choice 2gb over prepaid 3gb?

  • Steve S

    Called tmo to ask why I have not been updated to the new plan. Their response was that my bill cycle is as of the 14th and plans updated on the 15th and I need to wait until the next cycle. So tmo basically sucks as to customer service. They did offer to upgrade me now for a $20 fee. As I said tmo sucks. I told the “customer service rep to not change anything that it will give me time to look for another provider.

  • Jim Diesel

    So as I understand it $100 for 4 lines in the Simple Choice Plan (all for 1 Gb) and if I called after activating after Nov 15 for the Simple Choice Amped, my plan would go from 1 Gb to 2 Gb for the same price?