T-Mobile lights up Detroit and other Michigan cities with Extended Range LTE

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Yesterday I mentioned that we’d probably see a few more official Extended Range LTE expansions before 2015 is up, and this morning that’s exactly what we’re getting.

T-Mobile has officially launched its Extended Range LTE (aka band 12 LTE) coverage in the Detroit, Mich., metro area. The service is also available in other parts of the state of Michigan. The full list of new Extended Range LTE cities in Michigan looks like this:

Ann Arbor, Flint, Lansing, Grand Rapids, Kalamazoo, Battle Creek, Bay City/Saginaw, Jackson, Ludington, Traverse City, Charlevoix, Petoskey, Houghton Lake, and Alpena.

This isn’t the last time that we’ll see T-Mobile light up some Extended Range LTE service in Michigan in 2015, because Magenta says that it plans to roll out Extended Range LTE in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula, too.

If you live in Detroit or one of the other newly-lit Extended Range LTE cities, how has service been for you lately?

Source: T-Mobile

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  • Tim Moore

    Just tried a test here in Ann Arbor, in a building that’s usually good at blocking signals or at least slowing them down. Got 35.78 mbps.

    • maximus1901

      Unlikely it was only on b12. It’s nigh impossible to get so close to 37.5mbps theoretical limit.
      Prob Carrier aggregation was enabled.

      • Fabian Cortez

        Unlikely it was only on b12. It’s nigh impossible to get so close to 37.5mbps theoretical limit. Prob Carrier aggregation was enabled.

        Actually it is possible as the advertised “theoretical limit” already accounts for overhead.

  • Jimmy James

    I’ve had it for a year in the suburbs of Detroit. Don’t know why the announcement is out now. I think they had forgotten, and just realized it so they released the announcement. Only get 9 Mbps. I don’t understand why some get 30 and above on band 12, and others get less than 1/3 that. It is the same on my past three phones. I finally got a cell box from them to keep me on band 20 LTE, not the Wi-Fi based booster.

    • maximus1901

      TMO doesn’t plan on deploying band 12 on all cell sites.
      Initially it was on 1/3 of sites within a given market with 700A license.
      Market managers are pushing for:
      100% in urban
      50% suburban
      33% rural

      The more sites they deploy 700A, the faster your B12 speeds will be.

      My info comes directly from a TMO market manager. DIRECTLY.

      • DDLAR

        I believe that if they deploy it too densely there the towers may interfere with each other.

        • maximus1901

          And yet:
          100% URBANNNNNNNN

    • Ascertion

      Because B12 is only 5Mhz of bandwidth. It is easily congested compared to their B4 20Mhz carriers. You have a lot of neighbors on B12. :)

      • Jimmy James

        Yes. I try to explain to people that websites load more slowly on Band 12 because of the low bandwidth, but people tell me I am crazy.

        • Ascertion

          Sort of. If latency plays a bigger part. If B12 has adequate speeds (3mbps+), loading basic webpages should be a breeze, as long as latency is low.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Yes. I try to explain to people that websites load more slowly on Band 12 because of the low bandwidth, but people tell me I am crazy.

          Yeah, kind of like Sprint’s main bands: 25 and 26. 5 MHz FDD for the majority of their customers presents a terrible network experience.

          Lack of site density and lacking resource blocks is probably the reason why people get kicked down to EV-DO Rev. A and/or 1xRTT… in 2015/2016.

        • Drew

          Having 8mbps to 12mbps works just fine by me. I’m still able to get to most webpages that I’m always viewing loaded up within a matter of seconds without having to worry about any major slow downs. Plus, its not like I’m taking forever within those matter of seconds, just to have a page upload for me that time. :)

    • I live in the Detroit Metro area and Service is Phenomenal for me for the past few years. Strong signal, Never a dropped call, and LTE speeds 50Mbps or greater. Please stop spreading misinformation, thanks. ✌

      • Acdc1a

        Strongly agree.

        • g2a5b0e

          How can you strongly disagree with his experience? Yours may different, but it doesn’t make him wrong. I also live in the metro Detroit area & I have no issues with T-Mobile. The service is great FOR ME.

        • Acdc1a

          Read again, I strongly agreed with someone who had a good experience in Detroit. Detroit is probably one of the best markets for T-Mobile because they have legacy Omnipoint spectrum, AT&T Wireless’ spectrum from the Cingular merger that they acquired from Metro plus the new 700.

        • g2a5b0e

          I could have sworn you said disagree. My apologies.

    • Fabian Cortez

      Only get 9 Mbps.

      Only? You do realize that is over 1 MBps (megabyte), right? You also realize Band 12 is 5 MHz FDD, right?

      You sound entitled. Just like the Sprint crew wanting handouts with this recent round of CYBIH 2.0. Except that they would kill for a consistent 9 Mbps connection.

      • Jimmy James

        Read the other comments on this article. People agree, they can’t handle the data traffic, and something has changed recently.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Read the other comments on this article. People agree, they can’t handle the data traffic, and something has changed recently.

          5 MHz FDD is good for a theoretical max. of ~37 Mbps.

          Site placement and congestion play a huge role in what speeds you will achieve.

          You do have other options.

  • The Waz

    When will Extended LTE be turned on for Chicago? Looks like there has been a agreement signed, but no more details have emerged

    • DDLAR

      T-Mobile does not own any 700Mhz spectrum in Chicago.

    • The Waz

      There has been an agreement signed to relocate

    • Diver Dan

      If they can’t fix their Chicago in building penetration problems with 700 MHz then they need to fix it some other way.

  • DILAW IDDAHLA

    I have had T-Mo for over 11 years. I will tell you what I think briefly. T-Mo has GREAT monthly rates/prices. Coverage not that great (Att and Verizon have better coverage). I used to see 35+ Mbps download with my Note 2 2-2.5 years ago, but ever since T-Mo added a bunch of customers I am now seeing 8-12 Mbps download with my T-Mo Note 4. Thier customer service tanked too. Call T-Mo and you will be placed on hold for 10 min before u get to speak to anyone. T-Mo should brag about their rates/prices and not try to fool customers about how their coverage is like or better than Verizon. If the coverage is really better than Verizon, why are they giving out Wifi Home Hotspots for free? Why add the Wifi calling feature? (Which sucks by the way even when I use the T-Mo Asus with my Comcast 50 Mbps service). I am still with T-Mo because of their rates only

    • Fabian Cortez

      8-12 Mbps must be really bad for a network with users enjoying and using the service that they pay for.

      • DILAW IDDAHLA

        8 to 12 Mbps ideas good enough for me. I am not complaining about the decrease in speed. It’s really the cs that got worse and all this bs about how T-Mobile coverage is great when it’s not and we all know it

        • Drew

          Fair Enough. I so can agreed with your thoughts there Bro :)

        • Fabian Cortez

          8 to 12 Mbps ideas good enough for me. I am not complaining about the decrease in speed. It’s really the cs that got worse and all this bs about how T-Mobile coverage is great when it’s not and we all know it

          You seem to be equating speed to coverage. Covering 302+ million POPs of LTE and expanding coverage to an extra 1 million square miles isn’t anything to joke about.

          As far as customer service goes, I have no clue about any of that.

        • DILAW IDDAHLA

          I told u my unbiased opinion. Your experience with T-Mo sounds different than mine.

        • Fabian Cortez

          I told u my unbiased opinion. Your experience with T-Mo sounds different than mine.

          Do you have a Band 12 phone? I don’t believe the Note 2 supports Band 12. Likewise, where are you located (city)?

        • DILAW IDDAHLA

          I have the Note 4, T-Mo version

        • Fabian Cortez

          I have the Note 4, T-Mo version

          Location?

        • DILAW IDDAHLA

          Dearborn Heights, MI and if you are familiar with the area Gulley road before you get to Michigan Ave going south

        • Fabian Cortez

          Dearborn Heights, MI and if you are familiar with the area Gulley road before you get to Michigan Ave going south

          You should have Band 12 but I will add that just because a market is launched doesn’t mean it’s at 100%. All carriers do this as they continue to optimize the network.

          You could either call 611 or port out depending on if you feel you are being served for what you pay.

        • DILAW IDDAHLA

          It’s OK, I just don’t make phone calls if I am driving or in that area. If I really need to do so, I use my work Verizon phone lol. I wish T-Mo can just give me my trade in credit..it’s been 3 months :(

        • Acdc1a

          They have tiered customer service. Those in the best credit bracket with highest MRC receive the best service with the lowest wait times.

        • Fabian Cortez

          They have tiered customer service. Those in the best credit bracket with highest MRC receive the best service with the lowest wait times.

          Very interesting.

        • Jay J. Blanco

          Try paying 15 dollars for a overage then complain.

        • DILAW IDDAHLA

          I have 2.5 GB a month and use only around 1.1GB a month. But I understand what you mean

    • Drew

      Having 8mbps to 12mbps works just fine by me. I’m still able to load website pages as fast as possibles. Its not like Im having issues with being able to load a page up right away.

      • DILAW IDDAHLA

        I agree with you. 8 Mbps is good enough for me. I just hope with binge my 8 doesn’t drop to 3 lol

        • Drew

          Thanks for agreeing my Dears Sweetheart Bro :)

    • Jay J. Blanco

      Verizon has the same issues so no carrier is exempt. How do I know I got added to my grandmother plan biggest mistake ever. I’m switching back as soon as a get a state job. According to root metric tmobile is getting better. I know this for a fact in my state HSPA is horrible on band 4. It’s way better on band 2. Also of course speeds are going to slow. But at the end of the day it’s way faster then 3G, & 2G. On the wifi calling thing all 4 top tier carriers now have it. Want to know why???? Congestion and roaming. Don’t bash tmobile on that, it was a great idea and they are way ahead with thathe for years now.

      • DILAW IDDAHLA

        I won’t even argue with you. Verizon and ATT both have the same issues as T-Mobile…..OK

    • Fhritp

      Thanks for the Yelp.

  • clu68

    Does anyone work at Chrysler HQ in Auburn Hills, CTC? DO you have good or bad Tmobile signal or no signal at all?

    On my route to work, there is strong tmobile all over from Troy to Farmington Hills. The only weak spot is on Long Lake near (east) of Lasher). It drops to 4G 2 bar.

    On Telegraph I can get 30-80 down, 15-40 up. Twice this year I get 100 down using Speedtest app near my home, very close to tmo tower.

    • RobSleezy

      CTC was fine when I was there around March. In the building however… LOL About that.

  • zx6guy

    No band 12 in Chicago any time soon.

  • badassn

    Service has honestly been terrible tbh. I’ve been a t-mobile customer for 8 years and I’ve never had it this bad. I literally had faster speeds on my G2 when they had HSPA+.

    • Joe

      Yeah for a while till they optimize the phones service is going to be a pore in band 12 areas. The reason why is cuz band 12 has much less capacity and speed than band 4 and band 12 is supposed to be backup for when you only have 1 bar of band 4 or no service but unfortunately ppls phones are still switching to band 12 even when band 4 is available and much better. This won’t be a problem once they implement carrier aggregation.

    • Yeah, lately my phone has data performance has been pretty crappy. It was so bad I even though I hit the 20-23GB unspoken soft cap, but I was only around 7GB-9GBs. Hopefully it picks up soon. Today I thought they had a widespread network issue because I couldn’t even use Google Play store, text or send picture messages for like 15-30+ minutes or so.

  • Cam Fas

    Looks like binge is already helping with capacity in an area by me. Most of the time I get between 20 and 120 mbs but one area near a school I tested for months and weeks. I usually got 5mbs down today I got 39.76 down and 20.69 up it looks like the network wide Binge is already decreasing capacity problems. I can’t wait to go to work today and see if my speeds have increased during the busy hours. And its a major airpot that I work at so it will be interesting to see if this helps. As for the video quality on my iPhone and iPad it would appear that its actually quite better then what I initially thought it would be.

  • JonWheezy

    Anyone else notice HSPA speeds are capped around 8mbps. I’ve been a T-Mobile postpaid customer for three years. I’ve noticed in different areas throughout Detroit, the max speed I get is 8mbps on HSPA. Used to be 20mbps.

  • randall

    Service in Michigan is better Saginaw area is better as well indoors.

  • Jimmy James

    Update: I have not tested my speeds in a couple of months, and yesterday I was getting 20Mbps download on Band 12. Big improvement over the 9 to 10 I was getting. One issue though, I was unable to watch YouTube 720p or 1080p videos, without it freezing and then starting again every minute. Watching at 480p was fine. I am sure this is related to something wtih BingeOn.

    • vinnyjr

      Binge-On doesn’t effect YouTube.If Band 12 just lit up, it will take a week for the service to get right.

      • Jimmy James

        Oh. But it does. Repeatedly my 1080p videos would stutter. I turned off Binge-On and it is fine.

  • Bruce Wayne

    I’m getting 4.44 Mbps down and 4.49 Mbps up. Very poor.

  • Yes for Grand Rapids and Detroit. Detroit (Home), Grand Rapids (School). Now I’m all set. I know it’ll take a little while till I truly see the results and fruits of T-Mobile’s hard work with Extended LTE, but at least I know it’s coming sooner than later.

  • ThatRandomGuy86

    I switched from Verizon a week ago and the service has been crap. I downloaded an app called “LTE Discovery” which tells you what band you’re connected to and signal strength.

    Band 4= 10-15 Mbps down and 20-30 Mbps up
    Band 12= 1-8 Mbps down and 0-5 Mbps up… or doesn’t work at all with FULL BARS.

    Whenever my phone’s data stops working it’s because it switched to band 12.

  • Joey Soloo

    I live west in Detroit (Southfield)…..I have had several phones from T-Mo since joining them a few years ago. My recent device the 6s Plus works A-1, when I had the 6 Plus I had to use my wifi @ home (powered by U-Verse 12 up and down). Now that I have the new iPhone I have a stronger signal! But here’s the catch……I’m only getting no more than 8 dwn and 5 or 6 up! I don’t understand it. I was looking for @ least 20 down LOL

    • Richard Sequeira

      I am currently spending my weekend at my uncle’s house in Grosse Pointe and the signal is perfectly fine.

  • RobC

    Speeds were terrible today in my neighborhood and I’m confident it is due to MetroPCS subscribers + Thanksgiving. Never got above 1mbps. And Band 12 seems to be making things worst. I’m hoping T-Mobile will upgrade capacity soon. Detroit is beginning to show signs of struggle.

  • wazmo

    When I was up in Traverse City last week, All I got for T-Mobile was Band 2-no Band 12, and I was switching back and forth between AT&T and T-Mobile. Even got the 40 MB data limit notice.

  • PetenMi

    Work in Troy and call quality on my LG G4 is terrible on Band 12 VoLTE. SInce it was a new phone I initially thought it was the phone. Had to turn off VoLTE in settings.