T-Mobile confirms new Extended Range LTE coverage in Montana

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Yesterday T-Mobile gave a bit of an update on its LTE network, revealing that it crossed its goal of covering 300 million people with LTE two months ahead of schedule. Now T-Mo has confirmed some more big network news.

T-Mobile confirmed today that its Extended Range LTE network is now live in Montana, starting with Missoula and Kalispell. T-Mo also promises that more Montana coverage is coming and that it’ll include towns like Butte, Helena, Anaconda, and Whitefish.

T-Mo’s coverage map shows that Magenta is just a bit lacking in native coverage in states like Montana and Wyoming, so it’s good to see some LTE coverage going live in several Montana cities. One of the common critiques of T-Mobile is its coverage, specifically outside of top US metros, and filling in some of the “Partner Coverage” parts of its map with some Extended Range LTE shows T-Mo working to address those criticisms.

Source: T-Mobile

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  • Yessss!

  • Ad_Soffication

    Stupid me. Never, never, never open a Tmonews link in Twitter.

    I was almost suffocated with ads.

    • Trevnerdio

      My AdBlocker right now is reporting 38 ads blocked…yikes.

      • krissa

        Mine is currently showing 42, Yikes x2!!

        • Romdude

          They are links to websites, you know those that have multiple stories in them. I wonder how they make money off that.

  • kev2684

    t-mobile finally recognizes Montana as a place people live

    • Where people kind of live, T-Mobile kind of provides coverage.

      • ThatsMrtoyou

        T-Mobile has phenomenal coverage …….you must be a sprint user

        • I’m a satisfied T-Mobile customer, but its coverage is anything but phenomenal.

          The coverage is good enough where I live and where I frequently travel to, whether in state or even abroad. But I’ve been to places where coverage vanished in just a couple of miles from major urban centers, and only T-Mobile did so.

          Yet again, I’m satisfied with it most of the time and comfortable with the price. It’d be dumb to pay through the nose for almost ubiquitous coverage for the odd occasion when I happen to be there.

        • ThatsMrtoyou

          Actually it is, you must be a sprint user. A response is not necessary from you. You are a tool.

        • Acdc1a

          I beg to differ. Your results will certainly vary, but in South Florida and Metro Detroit (the two places I am most often) there is no better carrier. Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint don’t even hold a candle to T-Mobile in those areas. Get out of town and you may have a point.

        • I know Detroit fairly well and it is the major urban center I had in mind when I said that coverage may drop off quickly, for instance, just north of Rochester or Auburn Hills, where ATT is still strong. For Pete’s sake, TMUS is sight unseen in almost all of northern MI, starting in Flint, a rather large city. Surely, in the greater Detroit, coverage and speed are great, but just outside of it, including along major highways, like I75 or I94, TMUS is no more. Again, I’m not over there often enough to be bothered too much about the spotty TMUS coverage.

        • Acdc1a

          Starting in Flint? When was the last time you went north?

          Saginaw, Bay City, and now points even further north are not only covered, but covered well. They’re also covering 75 to the Soo…so…yeah…

          As far as the city property, it’s not even fair anymore. They acquired Metro PCS and along with it all of AT&T Wireless’ spectrum. Not sure if you were around before the Cingular merger but the ATTWS coverage was by far and away the best.

        • I’ve been to the area about 18 months ago. If things are better now, great. But it was embarrassing and irritating to have to walk around the airport to get any signal. Moreover, relatives in the area switched to T-Mobile after my visit, after I started with them its performance and cost, but switched back to ATT after a few months due to too many dark spots in the metropolitan area of Detroit.

        • Acdc1a

          So you switched back before they had the chance to refarm the Metro PCS spectrum. My advice would be to take them up on their generous offers to go back.

        • You got it wrong. I don’t live there. Relatives who live there were disappointed at T-Mobile. I’m glad that T-Mobile is expanding coverage as it can, especially in MI, where it covers just the southern half of the lower peninsula and zilch of the upper one.

        • maximus1901

          no it doesn’t. i’m a tmo user. their maps OVER-exaggerate.

        • ThatsMrtoyou

          The map is updated with data that is taken from devices , so it shows actual usage.

  • i mean i guess

    Now why the hell is missoula getting Extended Range LTE before Salt Lake City, UT?!? they have half our population.. how annoying

    • jay_max

      They also have a Band 12 license for western Montana, and don’t have one for SLC. So, Salt Lake can’t have it deployed.

      • xealo

        Yup, no 700mhz license in SLC or the entire state of Idaho. Fingers crossed that that 600mhz is available for purchase in said areas and they end up getting it come March.

    • Adrayven

      They cannot just ‘add’ spectrum … they have to HAVE it.. They had it to deploy in Montana.. /shrug

    • kev2684

      SLC just like JAX band 12 spectrum is currently owned by Continuum 700. wishing t-mo buy it already.

  • Chadd

    And still no Extended Range LTE in Lubbock, TX. Smh

  • take the good person test

    One of the few places left where you can still text while riding your horse through town.

    • homeontherange

      l o l

  • Steven

    Now Alabama. Especially south Alabama… PLEASE, the beach needs it

    • maximus1901

      cspire owns the 700a there.

  • Trevnerdio

    So are they just going to have LTE and nothing else? Or will they have some EDGE to fall back on? Because I know HSPA is very scarce in that region.

    • BigSky1970

      My thinking is, they only plan to cover the population centers and the interstate. They’re all about money and nothing else.

      • jay_max

        RootMetrics is already reporting signals between Hot Springs and Lone Pine, as well as in Townsend. Neither are on the interstate or by major population centers.

        • ThatsMrtoyou

          Big sky is a tool….ignore the moron

        • Romdude

          I’m sure naysayers will explain that away too.

      • Trevnerdio

        Well what I mean is they’ll have no fallback infrastructure. It’ll be LTE-only (which is actually pretty cool and cost-efficient

        • maximus1901

          and it means only volte phones will be allowed on the network.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Any capable phone is allowed on the network.

        • Trevnerdio

          Ehh, idk if they’d allow any LTE compatible phone on it. Because if it was data-only and people weren’t able to make calls and T-Mobile didn’t make that disclaimer, then that looks bad on their part.

        • Fabian Cortez

          So they’re going to start blocking IMEIs?

        • Trevnerdio

          Hmm…idunno how the implementation would go. I’m just spitballing, and blocking seems a bit intense.

        • Unless you are talking about phones that do not have band 12, you’re incorrect. Otherwise, only phones with VoLTE will be allowed on T-Mobile’s network.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Unless you are talking about phones that do not have band 12, you’re incorrect. Otherwise, only phones with VoLTE will be allowed on T-Mobile’s network.

          Do you have proof of this?

          Again, is T-Mobile engaging in blocking IMEIs of UEs that support Band 12 but not VoLTE?

          I have proof of the contrary. But then again, you made the statement and need to provide proof.

        • Per the Spectrum Gateway site:

          “T-Mobile issued a statement regarding band 12 unlocked phones: All Band 12 LTE devices on our network must support VoLTE, E911.”

          So far, only seven phones (one of which has not been released yet) fulfill these requirements.

          Also, I didn’t talk about T-Mobile blocking devices because we all know that isn’t happening. What I was referring to is the network’s support. You implied that the network would support all unlocked phones, when in fact most Band 12 phones are unsupported, although T-Mobile allowed them all on the network. For those phones:

          “Due to lack of VoLTE support you won’t be able to place and receive calls including 911 calls in some buildings and some outdoor areas where 2G GSM and 3G HSPA+ (marketed by T-Mobile as “4G”) signal is too weak or non-existent while LTE band 12 is available. You will still have data connection and you can receive and place non-emergency calls via Google Hangouts app (using Google Voice number). To place an emergency call you will have to either move outdoors where 2G or 3G signal is available or disable LTE to make your phone roam on another GSM network.”

          This explanation above was why Lenovo, the owners of Motorola, removed Band 12 LTE from one of their unlocked phones.

        • Fabian Cortez

          I don’t quite understand the point of your reply.

          Everything you posted was well-known information.

          It was your initial response of “Unless you are talking about phones that do not have band 12, you’re incorrect. Otherwise, only phones with VoLTE will be allowed on T-Mobile’s network.” which is still incorrect.

          Again, I will ask: Do you have any proof that T-Mobile will be allowing “only phones with VoLTE” onto their network?

        • No. But I know for sure that they will support (i.e. provide firmware updates for) only VOLTE devices.

        • Fabian Cortez

          No. But I know for sure that they will support (i.e. provide firmware updates for) only VOLTE devices.

          Who is “they?”

        • T-Mobile

        • Fabian Cortez

          T-Mobile

          How will T-Mobile “provide firmware updates for” BYOD devices that they don’t sell in stores?

      • ThatsMrtoyou

        LoL…is it hard to function in every day life being that stupid

    • Jay J. Blanco

      im pretty sure they will launch 2G, HSPA and LTE. They have the spectrum and many phones will need either HSPA or Edge to fall back on for calls. Tmobile normally laucned AWS LTE in the city and in rural areas PCS 1900 LTE.

  • jay_max

    Glad to see TMO expanding to my home state.

  • taxandspend

    Either the coverage map needs to be updated at all zoom levels, or it’s terribly misleading.

    https://maps.t-mobile.com/pcc.html?map=tmo-clover&channel=explore-network

    Notice lots of magenta in Montana, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska. Then in the top right, click to zoom in a level and re-center the map. Looks pretty good. Then zoom in one more level. Abracadabra. Magenta disappears. And those states appear to have no LTE and all partner coverage.

    • BigSky1970

      Yeah, you’re right. When you look at the country as a whole, it’s bathed almost entirely in magenta. I zoomed down to city/street level in Rapid City, SD and it’s gray (partner network). I was born and raised in northeast Montana, near Scobey. I know for certain there’s no TMobile in Scobey. Scobey is covered by Nemont Wireless (Verizon Partner) and Verizon.

      • maximus1901

        obfuscation. unUNcarrier

      • Fabian Cortez

        The legend on their coverage map is quite clear.

      • nathan chandler

        Rapid city is getting LTE along with all of Interstate 90 in South Dakota as we speak.

    • Michael

      Go look at Sprint’s coverage map, same deal. it looks like they cover most of the United States, zoom in a bit, and most of it disappears and becomes roaming. They’re worse than T-Mobile’s coverage.

    • Glenn Gore

      T-Mobile hasn’t updated their coverage maps in months, there is new native coverage all over the country that has been live for several months that does not show up yet. One example, the big area of 2G/EDGE in western Oklahoma was turned up 3 months ago but still shows as 2G/EDGE. They made a big deal back in February that their maps would be updated on a monthly basis but they haven’t followed through on that plan at all.

  • taxandspend

    I wish you wouldn’t censor posts.

    • thepanttherlady

      Links are automatically put into moderation due to spam content.

      Your comment was approved about 2 minutes before you typed this.

      • taxandspend

        Sorry – it looked as though it had disappeared. Then it showed up again. Apologies. I didn’t think anything was wrong with my post and was annoyed when it disappeared

      • maximus1901

        why don’t you create a whitelist of links?

        • Fabian Cortez

          I’ve mebtioned that before.

  • Chris

    Two months left for some T-Mo hometown love.

  • Jay J. Blanco

    Lets also not forget coverage is going live in Western North Dakota and South Dakota. Nice to see t-mobile is going to have native coverage in all 48 contiguous states. In my home state i have noticed new Sensorly tracking in a rural part that has only 2G. Coverage is steadily expanding

    • Was this in Bamberg, Blackville, Salley or Wagener?

      • Jay J. Blanco

        Mcbee. I noticed a small dot of lte in Cheraw in sensorly

        • chrst56ud

          Anyone in las vegas notice when you make voice calls it drops to hspa+

        • 50atomic

          Heads up T-Mobile just filed to acquired AWS in Columbia, SC so wideband LTE is now viable!

        • Jay J. Blanco

          That’s awesome lte just popped up in Bennettsvilles they previously had no service

  • Jay J. Blanco

    T-Mobile has purchased more 700mhz spectrum according to spectrumgateway. Nevada, Utah, VA, GA, LA, AZ & AL. Tmobile will soon be able to cover the entire state of Nevada with low band LTE. awesome!

    • Joe

      Yeah that was mentioned on the Q3 earnings call. But if you want a visual you can see all their licences at spectrumgateway

  • walt

    Once T-mobile purchases then deploys the 600 mhz spectrum they should shut down their entire GPRS/EDGE and HSPA network and go to a complete LTE network. All calls will be VOLTE and the leftover spectrum will only be used for LTE data only. Once they start to install the 600 mhz hardware on the tower they can begin decommissioning the old equipment as they install the new 600 mhz antennas.

    By the time 600mhz starts to roll out (2018-2019?) most people will have an LTE phone. If not, t-mobile should supply them with a LG Leon for free. Problem solved

    • nycplayboy78

      I LUV YOU :)

  • Tyrok

    Too late. My parents frequently go to Montana and got sick of the terrible coverage. We switched to AT&T this week.

    • Acdc1a

      Now is as good of time as any to switch back. Don’t feed the beast.

      Speaking of terrible coverage, it IS AT&T that you are using while there right now. If it’s terrible on T-Mobile, it’s going to be just as terrible on AT&T.

  • nycplayboy78

    Yeah now work on the National Parks in Wyoming…Tetons National Park and Yellowstone National Park…Coverage in Jackson Hole, WY is NON EXISTENT….

  • EndlessIke

    Great, now can i have the 100 dollars back that I spent 2 months ago on roaming data in missoula?

    • ThatsMrtoyou

      They don’t charge for roaming….lol

      • EndlessIke

        You’re 100% wrong. They don’t charge for international roaming. They do in fact charge for domestic roaming. https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-3299

        “lol”

        • Acdc1a

          Are you serious? You just linked to a site that specifically says, “will I be charged for domestic data roaming? NO!”

        • EndlessIke

          Are you willfully ignorant? Read the rest of that paragraph… “However, once
          your domestic data roaming allotment has been reached your data services
          will be unavailable until you return to a T-Mobile coverage area, your
          bill cycle starts over, or you change your full-speed data allotment to
          an option that includes more domestic data roaming.”

          This means that once you use more than 50 MB of data in a domestic roaming situation, your data turns off ( assuming an unlimited plan).

          If you want more, you pay for it, and its NOT CHEAP. I was just in Montana and just went through several conversations with Tmobile support. I needed data for work, and had to buy it by the 50 MB bucket.

        • Acdc1a

          You just really have to turn it into a pissing match don’t you?

          “or you change your full-speed data allotment to an option that includes more domestic data roaming.”

          If you had to switch from your unlimited plan to 11 GB, you would have to remove unlimited ($30) and add 11GB ($50) for a net cost of $20…or you can ask them nicely at care and they’ll give you the full 200MB assuming your not an a$$hat. If you’ve ever talked to care you’d know that 200MB is the most you can buy due to unfavorable roaming agreements.

        • EndlessIke

          You’re wrong. You can continue to purchase roaming in additional buckets.

          I just did this.

        • Acdc1a

          When you upload the bill I’ll believe you. I too just went through roaming with T-Mobile.

        • EndlessIke

          7 Day 50MB Domestic Roaming Pass

          $15.00

          Effective Date 08/18/15, 8:28 AM
          Expiration Date 08/19/15, 6:48 PM
          Volume used 5,000.06

          7 Day 50MB Domestic Roaming Pass

          $15.00

          Effective Date 08/19/15, 8:20 PM
          Expiration Date 08/23/15, 9:19 PM
          Volume used 4,986.00

          7 Day 50MB Domestic Roaming Pass

          $15.00

          Effective Date 08/19/15, 8:21 PM
          Expiration Date 08/30/15, 9:19 PM
          Volume used 5,001.79

          etc. etc.

  • Desmond Foucha

    Yes T-Mobile is buying Band 12 in New Orleans I’m about to switch back to T-Mobile

    • Raiterio Patterson

      It’s pending approval by FCC. Could take a year for approval

    • Acdc1a

      Band 12 or not I found the coverage to be just fine in New Orleans.

    • Desmond Foucha

      T-Mobile coverage in New Orleans is fine but signal Penetration is so bad

  • Sanka Muzikant

    How can i find out if T-Mobile owns or plans to buy band 12 in Charlotte, NC?

    • Jose Mendoza

      T-Mobile does not have any 700mhz Block A licenses in Charlotte, NC. Check out T-Mobile spectrum licenses by going to http://specmap.sequence-omega.net/

    • Raiterio Patterson

      T-Mobile has bought some spectrum from AB License Co near the Virginia/North Carolina state line but it has to be approved by the FCC, which could take up to a year..

      • taxandspend

        Looks like the Newport News VA area, which extends a tiny bit into the northeastern corner of NC

  • Cam Fas

    No one can say they arnt expanding their coverage. Maybe they can try and match verizon and att by mid or the end of 2016 and then when they can finally employ 600mhz they can exceed coverage of the rest. Let’s also sprinkle network wide carriar aggragation

  • Jose Mendoza

    Is it me or is T-Mobile widening PCS LTE channels where available from 5×5 to 10×10?

    • Elier Ruiz

      Where do you see that?

      • Jose Mendoza

        Mocksville North Carolina.
        Oddly the very north and very south towers are the only ones that have it. I’m guessing its a backhaul issue with the others. The other are 5×5 and have been capped out at about 17 since the beginning of the deployment.

        • Elier Ruiz

          Ah ok.

  • Raiterio Patterson

    T-Mobile has bought alot of spectrum from AB License Co lately. They’re not playing around anymore: New Orleans, North Carolina, San Diego, Phoenix/Mesa, Pensocola, and Las Vegas. Go Team Magenta

    • taxandspend

      North Carolina?

      • Raiterio Patterson

        Check the map on the front of the page. Areas that are colored brown are waiting on FCC approval

        • Josh

          what map / page are you talking about? I don’t see anything colored brown on the Tmo Coverage map.

        • Raiterio Patterson

          On the home page press menu > 700MHz LTE map

        • Andre Meaux

          Can you provide us a link? I’m not finding it either.

        • Raiterio Patterson
  • Redunkulous

    *Unrelated* I just received a 50mb update for my LG G2, anyone know what it’s about?

    • Acdc1a

      Supposed to fix the glitches of Android 5 update. My home screen was freezing and I was unable to get into the system at all at times until the update came down.

  • Croq

    Their map still appears to show Montana and a lot of that area up there as “partner coverage”. If you zoom in a couple of notches from the full US map. Doesn’t that mean that you’d be very limited (like 50 mb per month or so limited) for data?

  • mreveryphone

    Central Wisconsin???

  • Diver Dan

    What is T-mobile going to do about their
    penetration problem in Chicago? Oh boy Montana now has extended range LTE. The
    entire state has a population of 1 million people. That is one-tenth the
    population of Chicago Metro area. My daughter had to ditch T-mobile for Verizon. Building penetration where she worked in the loop was almost
    non-existent. Very spotty coverage inside her apartment in the Logan Square
    neighborhood. Verizon has excellent coverage in these same areas. I just want
    to be able to use my phone at the back of the grocery store and not have to
    walk up to the front by the windows.

    • dUDE

      Still have 2G coverage in New Holland, PA, 10 miles from Lancaster pa

      • Devin Klinger

        What kind of phone do you have? If I had to guess, New Holland is likely going to be a band 12 area.

    • jay_max

      Chicago has nothing to do with this story.

    • Acdc1a

      Chicago has so many antennas that coverage is still sufficient for most.

  • Alexis A

    After a little over 2 years I am so proud to say area code 98951 little ass town and I live out of town! Guess what people!? I now have LTE!!(extended network) im shocked they even decided to do that here … I swear at one point we were the only family with T-Mobile out here! Thank u T-mobile! I am one happy loyal customer after 2 years!! Keep doing what your doing! I see so much progress! Sprint who??

  • Jay Holm

    So in these new markets…the only frequency that has been deployed was 700mhz Band 12?

  • jay

    I caught one bar of band 12, screen cap with my iphone.. So i have no idea where the tower is, because a mile from that spot its band 4 lte. Hackettstown NJ…Also a question, Route 80 into PA theres a huge chunk of just Edge… Are they upgrading all Edge towers? I dont even care if it was just HSPA+ but edge is just unusable. Not angry, I had Tmobile back in the day, went to Sprint, and just went back and yes they have def expanded in NJ, yes there it LTE but there still are tons of Edge or no service only areas in Northern NJ.. 611 in Pa at exit 4 In columbia nj, just edge for miles. Just wondering if anyone has any Northern NJ news about expansion. Oh and to be honest, Tmobiles coverage map is a bit of BS. Where i live it says LTE… Reality its just edge. I wish they had the map they used to have.. Not just a blanket of pink… Very misleading

  • Raiterio Patterson

    So when is T-Mobile gonna buy out Cavalier Charlotte, LLC?

  • Andre Meaux

    thanks!!