Latest band 12 LTE sightings in Florida, Kentucky, Massachusetts, and California

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It was just one week ago that I last posted an update on band 12 LTE sightings, and since then there have been quite a few more that’ve poured in. So let’s get right into ‘em:

Sanford, Fla.

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Apopka, Fla.

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Palm Coast, Fla.

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Mortons Gap, Ky.

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Lancaster, Mass.

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Mission Viejo, Calif.

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Orland, Calif.

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T-Mobile has been aggressively rolling its band 12 LTE coverage in order to meet its end-of-year goal of having the service in more than 350 markets across the US. The effort shows in all of the band 12 sightings that we’ve seen lately, and I’d expect the push to continue in the coming months. So if you live in an area that doesn’t yet have band 12 LTE, keep an eye out!

Thanks, Angel, Doug, Jason, Mark, Ted, Alexander, and Ryan!

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  • Georgios Renieris

    So is band 12 supposed to be that extended range LTE I’m hearing about.

    • Hurlamania

      yes

    • teckn9ne23

      Yes it is

    • Ryan M.

      Range with band 12 is about 2-3 miles as compared to 1 mile. Pretty significant.

      • Hector Arteaga

        And better building penetration.

  • Arturo B

    I’ve been picking up Band 12 signal in my area in NYC on my iPhone 6S Plus. But the signal is just one bar which it pretty much sucks. Slow, and you can’t do anything with it… So much for “Extended Range LTE”.

    • besweeet

      It may not be fully tweaked in your area yet. How are the other carriers in the same spot?

      • Arturo B

        What you mean by the other carriers?

        • besweeet

          Other carriers, as in AT&T and Verizon.

        • Arturo B

          They’re way better, I have a friend which has AT&T and in the same spot where I get one dot of band 12 she gets 3 dots of band 17. So T-Mobile still way behind with their band 12 here :'(

        • besweeet

          I wonder if your signal is coming from a site that isn’t your closest. I’d give it a while and it should theoretically get better. What were you getting before the 1 bar of band 12 LTE?

        • Arturo B

          Same thing but Band 4, so I don’t get why Band 12 will give me the same crappy coverage inside buildings and some houses as Band 4 had been given me since I had my iPhone 6.

        • besweeet

          Then it really does seem like the band 12 one is coming from elsewhere. How strong is HSPA and EDGE?

        • Arturo B

          HSPA is 3 dots and Edge 4 dots in the same spot as where Band 4 and Band 12 gives me 1 dot and 2 dots if a place the phone on the table. Roughly same coverage which sucks and it’s unusable throughout the house.

        • SirStephenH

          Band 12 should be way stronger than band 4 if they’re both coming from the same tower. It think Besweeet’s right, you must be picking up your band 12 from a more distant tower.

        • Arturo B

          Probably, that’s what I’m thinking as well. I talked with T-Mobile recently and they told me that there are a lot of towers in my area that are in the process of modernization. They didn’t quite told me what type of mordenization, but I’m guessing it might be for Band 12. And probably some 2G towers to convert them to LTE. But the person told me that from now on my coverage should improve instead of get when worse since they are upgrading towers.

        • enkay1

          NYC is not nearly complete with band 12 buildout. They’ll only have ~900 sites done out of several thousand by the end of this year. They’ve got a lot to upgrade and they are going for a 1:1 scale so things will take time. It’s worse than band 4 right now because either the power is turned way down or your signal is coming from a very distant tower. It is indisputable that band 12 provides better service than band 4, it is hard physics. Being in NYC, they just have to take special care and more time to upgrade everything.

        • Arturo B

          Oh, they can graduate how much signal power this towers can send out?… Didn’t knew that, I thought that just by turning this sites on, it will be to it’s full capacity.

        • Fabian Cortez

          NYC is not an officially announced Band 12 area.

        • Arturo B

          Still bro, I’ve talked with T-Mobile executives and they told me that some areas here in NYC are currently live and active. That’s why I’ve been picking up this signal lately, the point is that signal I pick is roughly the same or even worse than band 4 inside buildings and some houses here which is literally 1 dot maybe two if I’m not grabbing the phone. So that’s why I wonder, is this really the coverage from 700mhz like it doesn’t make any difference what so ever from band 4.

        • Fabian Cortez

          So what if there are live sites?

          The market hasn’t officially been launched. In other words, until it is officially launched, you can’t quite complain.

        • Arturo B

          Nobody is complaining. If they’re live sites their suppose to be improving the coverage, but they aren’t. It doesn’t matter if it’s not official yet. By just having live sites means those areas are going to feel the same way as when they officially launch it. And if that’s the case, that Band 12 is just crap compare to Band 4.

    • TBN27

      Same here. Getting two to three bars of band twelve and the speeds are useable but I believe they are still working on it because it isn’t everywhere in the city yet and Several times band 12 went out and HSPA came in.

    • Mike Palomba

      I’m getting 1 bar in SI, NY as well And that’s if I see it at all

      • Arturo B

        I know right!, it doesn’t look like “Extended Range LTE”.. :(

  • SP_Jon_M3

    I’ve been getting band 12 with my iPhone 6s in the Rancho Palos Verdes, San Pedro, and Redondo Beach areas of Southern California. I haven’t seen these locations mentioned on this site anywhere. I took some screen caps, but not sure where to send/post them.

    • ltnstar

      Cool bro, I’m in downey close to bellflower. Haven’t seen anything in long beach, seal beach. Guess I have a reason to go towards that Redondo beach now

      • Hector Arteaga

        Whaaa! You guys are talking about home! I live in Memphis now, we won’t be getting any b12 anytime soon here.

    • Mike Palomba

      Click on submit news and then there will be an option to email pictures

  • dontsh00tmesanta

    madera

  • Arturo B

    Anyone knows the code to enter Service Mode on the Galaxy Note 5 from T-Mobile and be able to change LTE Band settings? I’ll gladly appreciate it.

    • James

      *#0011#

      • Arturo B

        Yeah, but can’t do any settings just see which band I’m currently picking. :(

        • lsuisme69 .

          The code is is *#2263#

  • tsupra0927

    What app is used in the pics above for iPhone?

    • ronjon400

      Dial *3001#12345#* and press the Call button.

      ps~ make sure wi-fi is off :)

      • tsupra0927

        Thank you! I live in Fl and one of the cities above is really close to me so I wanted to check. I’m getting band 4 though. Hope I see band 12 soon!

        • Stefan Naumowicz

          You will only see b12 in areas where b4 is unavailable

        • Hector Arteaga

          No, you might see both in the same area. You will only fall back to b12 if that signal happens to be stronger.

        • Jose Hernandez

          I work in Orlando FL, and unfortunately, if your phone is capable of using band 12 it will always default to it. The signal may be stronger but band 4 offers better service / speeds and there is no way to select it manually.

          With band 4, my service was 50mb down and 30mb up. Now with band 12 I’m getting 1 to 3mb down and 1mb up if I’m lucky.

          This service is new, and they are still working on it, but once your phone knows it’s there, it will prefer it no matter what you want.

        • Joe

          Yeah they need to do something so that your phone only connects to it when the signal is -110 dBm or less.

        • Fabian Cortez

          It’s still not an officially announced market.

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    • Fabian Cortez

      Once in the field test menu, toggle airplane mode so that the bandwidth displays.

  • ThatsMrtoyou

    Stupid question, but how do I submit my photo of my band 12 siting here in Oregon

    • Mike Palomba

      Email it to Alex

      • ThatsMrtoyou

        What’s his E-mail

        • Mike Palomba

          I don’t know it off hand but if you click on submit news there should be a link to email him pictures

  • Mirad77

    Hey Alex, since we are talking about band 12; Any word if Tmo will carry the NexusP on it’s shelves? How soon or why not?

    • Prode

      Google said no to carriers. They will be Google Play only. There is no word on why but I am sure Google wants to control the stock of the phone.

      • Abhi

        Probably has to do with update delays and bloat usually associated with carriers..

      • Google did the same as Microsoft. MS said no to carriers unless they specifically asked in writing to carry the Lumia 950 XL and Lumia 950.

  • matt

    what are peoples speed test results for band 12? i haven’t heard of any. theres a lot of people going around making fun of band 12 because tmobile is 5 x 5 or 10 x 10 or something and saying its a failure. in the bay area mobile is 50 mbit where AT&T and verizon are 9 or less

    • Prode

      I am live in MN. While on Band 12, I max out around 15mbps down. Which I believe is the cap for 5×5. This is fast enough for most things ppl can do on a phone. Band 12 for me is only used on a few highways to and from work. Where I live I get 15×15 band 4 which gets me to around 90mbps down so that is pretty fast.

    • Yes Prode is correct. Reason why Bay area gets 50mbps down is because its using band 4 LTE which is 10×10, 15×15, or 20×20 depending on the location. Band 12 is deployed with 5×5 on T-Mobile and will get roughly 15mbps max down. I also live in Minnesota, and at home, my phone prefers band 12 with the stronger signal, but I get 3mbps down. While i’m at school and connected to Band 4, I have gotten 70mbps down.

      • Fabian Cortez

        Band 12 is deployed with 5×5 on T-Mobile and will get roughly 15mbps max down.

        The downlink speed limit for Band 12 is ~37 Mbps.

        • SirStephenH

          Real world speeds are around a max of 15Mbps though.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Real world speeds are around a max of 15Mbps though.

          Depends on the locale.

          NYC Band 12 speed results are in the mid 30s.

        • TBN27

          I am getting a little over 3mbps in NYC, it hasn’t been set up
          In Brooklyn or Manhattan yet unless they started. I checked last week Wednesday and friday

        • Fabian Cortez

          That doesn’t mean users aren’t seeing speed tests in the 30s on Band 12 in NYC.

        • TBN27

          I am not saying nobody is getting it those speeds on band 12. I am just comparing what you are saying with what I am getting in my house and with other places I went to in the city.

        • Fabian Cortez

          And that’s good.

          It is important to note that what I’ve posted is not indicative of what speeds a user should expect everywhere. Likewise, what you’re experiencing is not indicative of what a user should expect everywhere.

          In addition to that, the point is that real-world speeds are not limited 15 Mbps.

  • lion7718

    Seems to be in my area now, might be time to get a new phone.

  • Arturo B

    Anyone knows how you’ll know if your iPhone 6S is using LTE-A (CA)? I mean will it show it in the field test mode that you’re using two bands at the same time?

    • enkay1

      Nope. FieldTest is pretty much abandonware at this point. The only way you can tell is by the speeds.

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        • Arturo B

          Bullshit.

      • Arturo B

        So, for iOS ecosystem which is one of the biggest when it comes to Apps is where they lack having an App similar to LTE Discovery on Android… Which I don’t quite get why the developers of this App hasn’t made it into iOS AppStore. They would be getting thousands of downloads for this particular App since Field Test is outdated and there’s not other way to check this Band Frequencies anywhere else.

        • Mike Palomba

          I believe it has something to do with app permissions. Google allows app developers more permissions where as Apple doesn’t.

    • Bradley Karas

      LTE advanced isn’t available yet it’s carrier aggregation which is active on new note 5/S6 edge+ so I assume it’s on the new iPhone too! What’s crazy is I was in Daytona and was in an elevator and still got full LTE coverage with band 12

      • Arturo B

        Oh, awesome! Did you do a Speedtest?

        • Bradley Karas

          Its the same all over…speeds depending on signal strength are somewhere in the 15-20 range down and about 5-10 up max…VoLTE still works too!!!

  • JB

    Band 12 also seems to have made it beyond NYC to North Jersey. I was in a store today on Route 23 in Wayne which previously had ZERO reception inside. I was surprised to find a very usable signal inside which turned out to be on band 12. Confirmed in engineering menu on my Nexus 6. I was slightly surprised as the location is only around 10 miles from WNJN’s transmitter in Montclair. Now if they could only get Northern Passaic County and the I87 corridor in NY State done, I’d be a very happy camper indeed.

    • TBN27

      They need to get it up and running in Teaneck, Hackensack, and Washington township. The signals in Wasjington township is horrendous no matter the carrier. So band 12 and to bolster the original LYE bands need serious improvements

      • JB

        It might happen soon. Someone on Reddit mentioned seeing a B12 site in Wyckoff. Just today, I found two more sites in Elizabeth across the Turnpike from Newark Airport, and in Newark itself a couple blocks from The Rock. It appears they’ve definitely been at work in North Jersey, so hopefully it’ll be soon. What I’d like to see done is the whole Ringwood / Wanaque / West Milford area. That’s a huge geographical expanse that could definitely use it. That and the whole I-87 corridor going North from the NJ border.

  • Walt

    I have an iphone 6s on metro pcs. My band 12 works perfect but the problem im having is my phone wont take the carrier update 21.1 that enables wifi calling and VOLTE. Im stuck on 21.0 my phone calls default to 3G when i make/receive calls. This could be a problem if im in a band 12 only area and unable to connect to to the regular network to make calls. My phone will say i have an LTE signal but wont be able to call :( this could be a problem if i was in an emergancy situation and had to call 9/11. Everytime i plug my phone into itunes it prompts me to update the carrier settings. Ive done everthing to try and fix it. A full restore, called metro and apple. When i swap a t mobile sim in i can see the 21.1 update so its not the phone. Its metro blocking these important features. Can someone help me out? I need that extra .1 lol

    • Mike Palomba

      Try plugging it into iTunes and getting the carrier update that way

      • walt

        tried that 20x

    • Fabian Cortez

      VoLTE works just fine on 18.1…

      • Walt

        Fab. You seem like the most active/intelligent person on these forums. Do you have any suggestions on what i should do? Still stuck on 21.0 and have no way to get 21.1 why does metro allow band 12 on their phones if you cant do volte? I think that was an issue with the moto e/g and moto had to disable band 12 for tmobile.

        Im not sure what youre talking about 18.1 im on ios 9.0.2 and 21.1 is the current carrier update for tmobile

    • Vontae Everton

      Did u find out the problem yet my iPhone 6s also doing the same thing

  • Annie Strayer

    last week I bought a brand new McLaren F1 after making $19427 this-past/4 weeks and-over, 18-k this past-munth . this is actually the coolest work I have ever had . I began this 3 months ago and straight away started making a cool at least $97 per-hour . Learn More At
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  • mreveryphone

    I need T-Mobile to get bands 1-100 while I’m traveling to central Wisconsin!

    • Bradley Karas

      Won’t happen…US Cellular is hoarding it with no intention of deploying. You will see it in Northwestern WI though around Eau Claire area. But US Cell owns a ton of it in WI, IL, MO…check the band 12 maps

      • mreveryphone

        Damit! I’m going to be out here for the better part of the winter… I’m going to call tmo and have them lower my bill since I can’t use my data

        • Bradley Karas

          Turn on roaming…it’s free

        • mreveryphone

          You only get 50mb of roaming data… That was gone about a week ago!

        • Bradley Karas

          Really? You have truly unlimited?

        • mreveryphone

          Yep… That’s what tmo told me when I called customer service. That’s all att allows when roaming on their network.

  • Joen

    How to check using iphone 6s if there is band 12 coverage?

    • Mike Palomba

      *3001#12345#* press call then click serving cell info

      • Joen

        Thank you

  • Fabian Cortez

    Nobody is complaining. If they’re live sites their suppose to be improving the coverage, but they aren’t. It doesn’t matter if it’s not official yet. By just having live sites means those areas are going to feel the same way as when they officially launch it. And if that’s the case, that Band 12 is just crap compare to Band 4.

    And that’s wherein lies the problem.

    You’ve already made up your mind about Band 12 by calling it “crap compare to Band 4” when it’s not even officially announced. That would be complaining.

    If the unofficial lives sites of Band 12 doesn’t work for you, then I suggest you port out to a carrier that does.

    • Arturo B

      I don’t need to change any carriers. The signal just suck period. That doesn’t mean I need to move to another carrier. I’ve been with T-Mobile for many years and I’m used to having crappy signal inside some buildings and houses but seeing Band 12 not improving it doesn’t even matter to me. Hey, another frequency doesn’t hurt tho. but as for me personally I haven’t seen it’s potential yet. Hope to see it later on as they keep building more sites, or even when they make it official.

      • Fabian Cortez

        This entire conversation is based upon your complaint with respect to Band 12 being “crap.”

        It is illogical to complain about something that is unofficial and/or while still paying for said service. Especially on a public forum.

        You made it clear about your complaints to T-Mobile. If you are still unsatisfied with the service then port out, wait for an official launch, or don’t complain.

        • Arturo B

          You clearly love to argue with your own ethnicity, don’t you? Just to make yourself look more sophisticated and smart among others… You’re not the first Latin person that I’ve encountered in a forum which they try to make others from the same race feel inferior when it comes to intelligence or knowledge from a certain topic. Anyways man, you win I’m not gonna be wasting my breath with you. Keep feeding your ego with someone else I already got the information I wanted to hear before you even replied to my question. But thank you for the info. I don’t like to fight or argue with my own ethnicity, so just to end it cool, take care and have a great afternoon or evening depending in which part of the U.S you’re currently residing.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Your ad hominem attacks are irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

          The fact remains that your complaints are illogical, especially considering you continue to pay while being discontent.

          Come back with legitimate complaints once the NYC market is officially launched with Band 12. I have a feeling you still will not be content [no matter what carrier you use].

  • Epic_Ninja420

    Palm Coast……. so close yet so far.

  • John in Ohio

    Any band 12 coming to Harlan, Hyden, or Mozelle, KY? I have a friend living in the holler down there who can’t get T-mobile on the 1900mhz system. There’s towers there, but the terrain makes high frequency cellular communications an impossible feat. Even AT&T barely reaches her. She wants off the duopoly. Does anyone have any info?

  • Brad Allen

    Currently no T-Mobile LTE Band 12 deployment in Silicon Valley (as of October 11, 2015). I checked https://www.cellmapper.net/map and it confirms it: 86 sites in Sacramento area (mentioned in this article); 1,025 (yes, that’s One Thousand Twenty Five) sites in LA area (also mentioned in this article), which I did a sampling of and most are within the last two weeks so actually live and current seeming, but absolutely nothing listed in Silicon Valley any time in the last two months and the only half a dozen sitings found are one siting each months and months ago with no active service, so basically bad noise.

    Is Silicon Valley going to be 100% skipped for the T-Mobile LTE Band 12 rollout? I invested $1,100 in new LTE Band 12 phones for prettymuch only this area (Aptos, Santa Cruz County, Monterey County, Santa Clara County, San Mateo County), and yet I get crappy service everywhere, with 70% of the places I go being complete dark spots or so slow it doesn’t work. I thought when the CEO said they’re serious about a rollout that they were. OK, I see he’s expanding in already urban areas, but nothing in coastal Northern California or San Francisco Bay Area.

    In half the coverage areas in Silicon Valley, it’s so weak that it cuts out for almost no reason depending on your location. In most areas, it’s “4G” which doesn’t work, or cuts to “E” which really doesn’t work. When it finally says “LTE”, it’s one or two dots out of five, and thankfully, then it works. I still have T-Mobile from when I lived in San Jose, and had to make a decision whether to go back to Verizon ($150/month) or stay with T-Mobile ($60/month). I was about to go back to Verizon despite the heavy cost when T-Mobile said they’re expanding coverage by leaps and bounds. Obviously the cagey attitude corporations have these days about their plans for rollouts and stuff hurt me. I’m so tired of this baby-boomer attitude that us commoners, us consumers, shouldn’t know anything to plan for our lives, fish-eat-fish nonsense. So, is T-Mobile going to come to Silicon Valley or not? What’s the deadline? The schedule? The plans? Being put in the dark is stupid.