Check out T-Mobile Advanced Messaging in action

T-Mobile recently introduced Advanced Messaging, a new feature that improves upon standard text messaging by utilizing the Rich Communications Services standard to offer “near real-time chat,” delivery and read receipts, and support for sending large files. Unfortunately, Advanced Messaging is currently only available on the Samsung Galaxy Grand Prime. Thanks to Des Smith, though, everyone can get a peek at the feature in action.

Des just posted a brief video that shows Advanced Messaging in action on a Galaxy Core Prime. We’re shown see Presence, which lets you know when the other party is typing, delivery and read receipts, and the sending of a video file.

While there are lots of messaging services that offer features like read receipts and sending large files, the goal of Advanced Messaging is to enable these features without requiring the user to download an extra app that may not be available on all platforms. It uses an RCS standard, which can be adopted by other device makers and carriers. We’ll have to wait and see if that actually happens, but T-Mo “expects” its adoption of RCS to spur other carriers to begin using it, too.

When it comes to T-Mo, RCS-based Advanced Messaging is currently available on the Samsung Galaxy Grand Prime and will be soon be offered on the Galaxy S6, S6 edge, and Galaxy S5 through software updates. Ol’ Magenta says that by the time 2015 wraps up, “nearly a dozen more hot devices” will support Advanced Messaging.

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  • Baxter DeBerry

    this better come to the avant..

    • Honesttea

      Everyone will have this soon it’s a software upgrade nothing to do with hardware calm your nipples

      • Fabian Cortez

        Everyone will have this soon it’s a software upgrade nothing to do with hardware calm your nipples

        Correct.

        T-Mobile has done the “hard work” by getting their network up-to-date and deploying this feature.

        It is now up to OEMs to push the software updates. If anything, it’s up to Google to bake it in as this is the future/evolutionary path of SMS/MMS.

        Other carriers will eventually jump on boards as they are with VoLTE and VoLTE interoperability.

  • Sushimane

    Hopefully this comes out for the Xperia z3. Wishful thinking

  • orlando duran

    It will, note 4, avant, note 3, s6 s6 edge, note 4 edge within a few months through Ota update

    • steveb944

      So it’s a Samsung only affair? Great…

      • Nick

        Lol I was just thinking about dumping my Samsung for the next moto g/x too..

        • steveb944

          Well there’s still a sliver of hope. We’ll find out this week if they’re on board.

  • Aurizen

    No iphone love :(

    • Ford_Thundercougarfalconbird

      People still use iPhones?

      • Fhritp

        People still troll?

        • Aurizen

          lol ^ you sir won the internet.

    • SirStephenH

      It’ll be up to Apple to add support or “innovate” as they call it.

  • Joe Franklin

    I have to buy a stupid samsung phone to take advantage? Why would I give up my nexus for samsung bloatware. No thanks t-mo. Keep your texting dohickey.

    • Justin Smith

      It’s going to be on most new phones from here on out. It may also be just a software update for older phones.

      • Joe Franklin

        I hope, and it would not be typical T-Mo to limit something like this.

    • Paul

      Root and remove bloatware.

      • Joe Franklin

        One of these days I have to get a windows computer and learn how to do that.

        • Paul

          Ha Ha, or know someone with one. Resd up on it though to make sure you get the correct files. My Note 3 had been rooted since i got in my car out front of the T-Mobile store.
          It’s easy to do. The Nexus phones are always tempting for the reason they dint even need to be rooted.

      • eanfoso

        Or, get something besides a plasticsung phone

        • Paul

          A$$holes and opinions.

          All my phones go into a case as soon as I purchase them. Plastic or metal, it doesn’t matter.

        • eanfoso

          Good for you, still doesn’t change what’s being discussed here, and much like what you just said, an a$$hole is much like an opinion: Everyone has one.

        • Paul

          Rooting and removing bloatware? That’s what we’re discussing in this post and replies. Body material has nothing to do with rooting, performance, or inclusion of bloatware.

          Otherwise, a Samsung phone has this app. Other brands will be included soon enough.

        • eanfoso

          no, what he first and foremost complained was sammy’s bloatware that comes loaded and he wants nothing to deal with that, nothing about rooting, you brought that to the table not him, and I don’t blame him, why do something extra when there are better phones out there that already have it done for you? and that is true other OEMs will follow soon.

        • Paul

          Mentioned bloatware, i offered a solution via root. Rooting improves any phone; plastic or metal frame.
          YOU made a jab at the casing. I was addressing you’re stupidity.

        • eanfoso

          “addressing YOU’RE stupidity” when you can’t even write proper English

        • Paul

          Yes, pointing out a single spelling mistake certainly displays your pretentiousness. Brava. One shouldn’t throw stones in a glass house, champ.

          Rooting allows one to improve the performance, and not just voltage or overclocking. Removing apps and preventing apps from randomly waking up to send/receive data does improve performance. Installing ROMs that are cleaned up (coding) also greatly improve performance and battery life. These are all factual.

          I’ve rooted every Android phone I’ve owned and never had a malware issue. Then again, I have common sense and don’t install apps from sources I don’t know or trust. Malware ALSO affects non-rooted devices. Your point is moot.

          Plastic vs metal bodies is a subjective argument. You are on the side that plastic is cheap. Good for you. You dislike Samsung, obviously. Again, good for you. I really don’t care, and more than likely no one else really does either.

          I’ve stated my part to the poster and, especially at this point, could care less of your responses or opinions. You’re just looking for the argument, and I’ve indulged your tired talking points for about as far as I’m willing to go.

          Go play outside, kid.

        • eanfoso

          Need some crackers to go with that? Since you began by replying to me and defend Sammy I’d say that “no one cares” doesn’t apply, since you cared enough to reply. And true Android just sucks when it comes to security, no longer using an Android mobile so yeah doesn’t apply to me.

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          Ditto to you sir

          Why root?

        • Paul

          Uuhhh, touring allows improvement on Android. This is a fact.

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          Why root to fix something that shouldnt be there? get a nexus or lg they are debloated already. Not everyone wants nor needs to root

      • dontsh00tmesanta

        Or don’t root and get an lg or a nexus or something that’s not Samsung….why root

        • Paul

          LG has bloatware, your point is moot.

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          lg bloatware is miniscule in comparison to what samsung has on their devices. My point is valid. go to sleep

        • williejackbrainer

          I agree. I had HTC, Samsung and LG. Waiting for updates that either never happened or released well after the OEM’s deadline was enough for me. I went with the Nexus 6 and I love it. I don’t want to buy a phone that I just spent hundreds on only to have to root it.

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          exactly.

    • Frankwhitess

      Foolll….. There are more phones to come.. And just about every phone has advance messaging.. It just needs to be activated..

      • archerian

        And just about every phone has advance messaging.. It just needs to be activated..

        Just about every phone has messaging … “Advanced Messaging” as T-mobile calls it, not so much. It is implemented as a system app, so it has to be added to each device by the manufacturer or operator.

        • Drew

          Not true Bro. T-Mobile will be the first to have it work with its network in the USA. No just about every phone has Advanced Messaging. You said messaging verses you saying Advanced Messaging. Wrong answer. Hey the phones that will have Advanced Messaging implemented within the regular app itself will only work on T-Mobiles network. No other carrier will have this feature implemented within their network(especially withjn their regular texting app network).

        • archerian

          No just about every phone has Advanced Messaging.

          Then why did T-mobile “work” with Samsung to get ‘Advanced Messaging’ on the Galaxy Prime, and stated it’s available only on a few devices TODAY and only on T-mobile? Advanced Messaging is implemented on the device as system app that doesn’t exist on any phone except the Galaxy Prime today.

        • Drew

          Thata what I freaking said bro. Learn to read. Comprehension problems I see?? Hmmm. lol

        • Drew

          Thats*

        • Drew

          Well yeah I was just saying that everyone that will be out soon will have this feature( but will only work within T-Mobiles only network though).

    • Fabian Cortez

      I have to buy a stupid samsung phone to take advantage? Why would I give up my nexus for samsung bloatware. No thanks t-mo. Keep your texting dohickey.

      Relax.

      From Neville Ray, T-Mobile CTO:

      “Nearly a dozen more hot devices will come with Advanced Messaging this year alone, and, in the future, we expect it will be a standard feature on new smartphones sold,”

      • archerian

        Nearly a dozen more hot devices will come with Advanced Messaging

        perhaps Ray forgot to mention on T-mobile

        in the future, we expect

        some hope…

        • skywalkr2

          Yep same as how long it took to get wifi calling on nexus 6 (and it still doesnt work for me)

        • Fabian Cortez

          Yep same as how long it took to get wifi calling on nexus 6 (and it still doesnt work for me)

          But it’s here, it’s now stock, and it works for many.

          Your single accounting of it not working does not mean it doesn’t work nor does it not exist.

          I suggest you call 611.

        • skywalkr2

          Butthurt much?

        • Fabian Cortez

          Butthurt much?

          You’re the one complaining about Wi-Fi Calling not working for you. Not me.

          !Butthurt

        • skywalkr2

          You have lost your mind. I reported my experience as an aside. You wrote a lengthy reply obviously personally insulted that someones experience doesn’t match yours. Seriously. that is the very definition of butthurt.

        • Fabian Cortez

          You have lost your mind. I reported my experience as an aside. You wrote a lengthy reply obviously personally insulted that someones experience doesn’t match yours. Seriously. that is the very definition of butthurt.

          Being honest with yourself is the first step to accountability.

          Your “aside” was a complaint, as if to diminish the technology just because “it still doesnt work” for you.

          So I suggest you call 611 if it still doesn’t work versus complaining about it on an unrelated article.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Nearly a dozen more hot devices will come with Advanced Messaging

          perhaps Ray forgot to mention only on T-mobile

          in the future, we expect

          some hope…

          Yeah, no.

          Troll along.

        • archerian

          so this comment was trolling? I’m interested to know how you determined so with this comment. Ray cannot promise RCS support on any operator other than T-Mobile, and he can only ‘hope’ for more support in the ‘future’… or is that incorrect? sometimes what’s not said is more important that what is.

        • Fabian Cortez

          so this comment was trolling? I’m interested to know how you determined so with this comment. Ray cannot promise RCS support on any operator other than T-Mobile, and he can only ‘hope’ for more support in the ‘future’… or is that incorrect? sometimes what’s not said is more important that what is.

          Yeah, no.

          Troll along.

  • Philip

    Will be work for Note 5? It cant be any newer than that. I just use Whatsapp heavily. Why do I need this?

    • Paul

      Probably will as it’ll be new.

    • Frankwhitess

      You need this because when you text someone that doe not have whatsapp,.. You can be informed that it has been read and you can see when they are replying back.. Example, you call out threw text by texting your boss… Once you see on your phone that he read it,.. Your good to Go..

      • archerian

        You can be informed that it has been read and you can see when they are replying back

        This feature has been available in Whatsapp for months, and is not supported in Advanced Messaging unless the device has support for it (which is currently one device). Unless other operators support it, it will be like regular SMS/MMS for unsupported devices.

        • Drew

          No duh Bro. He already knew that. Thats why a select few of current device that has support for such technology to be implemented with the regular app itself will get a software update, while other phones that will soon arrive to T-Mobiles network would already have advanced texting implemented with the regular texting app itself.

  • Richard Darrington

    Anyone know if this will be coming to the Sony Z3 via update?

  • YABD

    That’s neat like whatsapp message.

  • SirStephenH

    I bet this’ll probably be built into Android M later on or Android N.

  • Mike Palomba

    It would be nice if this came to iOS when the 6s and iOS 9 is launched.

    • Fabian Cortez

      You wouldn’t see much of a difference unless you started messaging your contacts that didn’t have iMessage (those with the green chat bubbles).

      • Mike Palomba

        Yea I know, there are a few people I text who refuse to switch to iPhone so this would be great.

        • Drew

          I too would have to agree with you as well Bro. Yay.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Yea I know, there are a few people I text who refuse to switch to iPhone so this would be great.

          Yes. It is important to note that this is complimentary to iMessage and not in competition.

          Order of operation would be iMessage > RCS > SMS/MMS.

  • AnthonyRyan89

    Will this come to the N6 and I wonder will Metro PCS phones get this as well?

    • williejackbrainer

      I was wondering about that myself.

    • Fabian Cortez

      If Google bakes it in to Android it will and it seems very plausible, considering their streak of baking things in: “HD Voice” (VoLTE), Visual Voicemail, Wi-Fi Calling, etc.

      • williejackbrainer

        Hopefully, it will come in one of the Android M releases.

  • Erik Knudsen

    Still not seeing any reason this is better or even just different than hangouts. Hangouts still has the advantage of being available on all Android and ios devices as well as computers. Keep trying tmo.

    • Frankwhitess

      Really?? Did you just write that ?? Keep trying t mobile? What are they trying? Advanced messaging is not something that t mobile invented fool… It’s a feature that carriers have not bothered to utilize… If t mobile wanted to build a chatting app like the likes of whatsapp or hangout, they would have done so…but just because they activate a feature that other carrier have not, I give them kudos for being different… Let me guess, your a Verizon customer and are upset that we have this feature correct?? I know….. It’s sucks…switch..

      • Erik Knudsen

        Maybe next time read the entire comment instead of just the last three words. You’ll get the hang of it. I believe in you. Probably shouldn’t assume you know anything about the other person either. Just throwing that out there. Good effort though. You’re almost there.

        • Frankwhitess

          Lol….. Riteeeeeee…….. ;)

        • Das_juden_adam

          You’re an idiot. This allows those features on any messaging app. And how can you bring up computers when we are talking g text? Different way of sending, i.e. data.

        • Drew

          Um nope not what T-Mobile is doing now. They dont have to worry about doing a separate app in order for something like this to occur dude. lol It will be built right into the regular texting app itself. So therefore no extra software from the play store nor do you have to get another app in order for you you to start making use of such feature there Bro. lol

        • Fabian Cortez

          This is carrier-based and is associated/attached to your phone number, just like SMS/MMS is.

          No need to hunt down 651243120 apps with 54247640651 different logins.

        • Erik Knudsen

          I text with hangouts also. I’m all for something new and innovative, I’m just not seeing with this. I don’t get why the need for animosity, just trying to figure out what this offers differently.

    • Matches Malone

      Hangouts is terrible. It still has a clunky UI and slow performance on Android. Ironically, it’s better on iOS. Also, in my experience, no one really uses Hangouts. People use Facebook Messenger, iMessage, and WhatsApp a lot more than they do Hangouts.

      • skywalkr2

        If by terrible you mean functional and does its job…. then yes…

        • skywalkr2

          And in addition I know a lot of people on hangouts, and the only people I know who use whatsapp are the Indians I work with.

        • Matches Malone

          No, actually I just meant terrible.

        • skywalkr2

          Then in that case you are wrong.

        • Matches Malone

          Well, that’s just like, your opinion, man.

      • Erik Knudsen

        Opinions are fine, nothing is going to be universally liked. No worries. Anecdotal user experience evidence is not representative of the entire population. If I told you that everyone I know uses hangouts, that doesn’t mean that the entire population of earth uses it. No worries though, use what works best for you :)

        • Fabian Cortez

          Opinions are fine, nothing is going to be universally liked. No worries. Anecdotal user experience evidence is not representative of the entire population. If I told you that everyone I know uses hangouts, that doesn’t mean that the entire population of earth uses it. No worries though, use what works best for you :)

          Correct, but this is native. Users will then have to go out of their way to use an OTT app. That’s why this is interesting and/or important.

          This effectively replaces/diminishes SMS/MMS to worst-case scenario.

        • Erik Knudsen

          Touche good sir. Point taken.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Touché? No, not really my point/purpose.

          More like to inform and clarify but I’m glad you understand it better now.

        • archerian

          User won’t have to go out of their way to use OTT as millions already have made that move. Also, with OTT there is no per message charge. T-Mobile might not change per message on RCS, but what’s preventing the other party from doing so? With OTT the costs involved are already known to both sender and receipient and in several operators already subsidized.

          If this was launched a few years ago before OTT became widespread it would have had a better chance. There are too many unknowns with Advanced Messaging and RCS including device support, OS support, operator and country support, billing, archival, devuxe migration, end to end to encryption etc. T-Mobile cannot solve all of these issues as messages are not all transported in their domain unlike OTT.

        • Fabian Cortez

          User won’t have to go out of their way to use OTT as millions already have made that move. Also, with OTT there is no per message charge. T-Mobile might not change per message on RCS, but what’s preventing the other party from doing so? With OTT the costs involved are already known to both sender and receipient and in several operators already subsidized.

          If this was launched a few years ago before OTT became widespread it would have had a better chance. There are too many unknowns with Advanced Messaging and RCS including device support, OS support, operator and country support, billing, archival, device migration, end to end to encryption etc. T-Mobile cannot solve all of these issues as messages are not all transported in their domain unlike OTT.

          Yeah, no.

          Troll along.

        • NinoBr0wn

          How many times are you going to say that? Do you have an agenda to promote this whole super advanced messaging?

        • Fabian Cortez

          How many times are you going to say that? Do you have an agenda to promote this whole super advanced messaging?

          If you enjoy standard calling and messaging, then I have a nice Motorola StarTAC that you can have.

          T-Mobile offers the latest and cutting-edge technology in the wireless space. If that doesn’t interest you then don’t reply to my comment.

        • NinoBr0wn

          I can reply to any comment I want. It’s the internet. But you again just displayed what I’m questioning. Why are you so defensive? Why are you attacking anyone on here with a differing opinion or a counter point? Where did I say something about enjoy standard anything? How does someone leave a detailed comment, and all you say is move along troll? Latest and greatest? You read like a promotional poster. That’s why I asked if you have an agenda.

        • Fabian Cortez

          I can reply to any comment I want. It’s the internet. But you again just displayed what I’m questioning. Why are you so defensive? Why are you attacking anyone on here with a differing opinion or a counter point? Where did I say something about enjoy standard anything? How does someone leave a detailed comment, and all you say is move along troll? Latest and greatest? You read like a promotional poster. That’s why I asked if you have an agenda.

          Sixth question: Can you not reply to me?

        • NinoBr0wn

          Great. Now where do you come from with this ‘if you don’t want blahblah startac blah blah don’t reply to me?’

        • Fabian Cortez

          Great. Now where do you come from with this ‘if you don’t want blahblah startac blah blah don’t reply to me?’

          RCS is the next thing in wireless technology when it comes to advancing SMS/MMS. Akin to what VoLTE did for voice.

          You assume I have an agenda when I am merely pointing out the benefits of RCS on a carrier-focused blog. So I stated that if you are okay with basic voice and messaging, then I have a StarTAC that I am more than willing to offload onto you because as enthusiasts, the latest and greatest is always a welcome and should never be overlooked.

        • Drew

          It seems like you would rather a carrier to not be up to new and advanced speed with their technology. Un-appreciative if you ask me Bro. lol No need to get bent out of shape just like what you doing on one of my comments that was being posted for you to look at a few hours ago there Bro.

        • Drew

          you were doing*

        • NinoBr0wn

          Yea bro? Is that really, honestly what you got out of what I said bro? Or are you just feeling defensive because its the internet bro? bro?

        • Drew

          Hmmm defensive? Whose defensive Bro? Yeah talking about me being childish knowing I wasn’t even being angry at your sorry self. Goodbye.

        • NinoBr0wn

          Case in point bro. Bro. Bro.

    • Drew

      Why would they keep trying? T-Mobile will be the only carrier that won’t make all of us T-Mobile users here to go right on over to play store to download an extra software or app. So therefore T-Mobile will be the first in the USA country to implement Advanced Text Messaging within their Regular Texting App. Hooray to that right theres Bro.

  • BlackberryOwner

    Big deal. Blackberry messenger does that already and you can video chat (specially in WiFi). I understand is not the “cool phone” to have but this is hardly news!

    • Romdude

      What is the market penetration of Blackberry? That’s why this is news. This is for the sizable amount of android users. If this is implemented on all new phones not just t-mobiles, there may actually be inter-operability. Imagine that? Frankly what would be really nice is a universal translator that translates on the fly, Google is trying, I love all this new tech.

  • Blackberry has done this for a long time. I believe iPhone does this as well when texting between two Apple devices.

    • Fabian Cortez

      Blackberry has done this for a long time. I believe iPhone does this as well when texting between two Apple devices.

      Yes, the carriers are playing catch-up to third party solutions. However, this will not be best-effort and will be integrated with the network core of the carriers.

      • archerian

        this will not be best-effort

        Have you checked out how Advanced Messaging works in the Galaxy Prime? While on Wifi, it uses the end user’s Internet connection to send/receive data. So how can you claim RCS isn’t best effort when it works on a Wifi network routed through regular Internet routers(while on WiFI). So while using WiFi RCS somehow becomes non best-effort but GBR on the regular Internet? Neville Ray doesn’t own the Internet nor manage it, so he cannot claim RCS has QoS better than OTT at all times. Using the carrier’s IMS for authentication and other services won’t make RCS any better in QoS than OTT when it’s routed via WiFi.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Have you checked out how Advanced Messaging works in the Galaxy Prime? While on Wifi, it uses the end user’s Internet connection to send/receive data. So how can you claim RCS isn’t best effort when it works on a Wifi network routed through regular Internet routers(while on WiFI). So while using WiFi RCS somehow becomes non best-effort but GBR on the regular Internet? Neville Ray doesn’t own the Internet nor manage it, so he cannot claim RCS has QoS better than OTT at all times. Using the carrier’s IMS for authentication and other services won’t make RCS any better in QoS than OTT when it’s routed via WiFi.

          Yeah, no.

          Troll along.

  • JR

    Even Facebook Messenger and Hangouts does this. So, um, Hooray?

    • Fabian Cortez

      Even Facebook Messenger and Hangouts does this. So, um, Hooray?

      This is within the stock phone messaging app and is associated with you phone number.

      No need for separate apps and logins. Also, if the recipient doesn’t have a device on a network that supports RCS, it will default to SMS/MMS.

      Think of this as the iMessage for carriers in the future. Except it won’t be best-effort like OTT services.

      • JR

        Hangouts is the stock messaging app on Android phones. Or worst case scenario, you can turn it into a stock messaging app on your Android. I use a Nexus phone. No carrier bloatware needed/required. Blackberry and iPhones have the same capabilities. So, who needs this really? Again, so, um, Hooray?

        • williejackbrainer

          Hangouts and Messenger.

        • Drew

          Again hangouts is separate from the regular texting app. No need to switch to different texting apps. So again you are still missing the point Bro. The Stocking regular Text app will already have advanced texting implemented within the app itself without having to switch right on over to another app like hangouts. lol buh bye lol

        • JR

          Bro, like I care, bro, like, bro. Kids.

        • NinoBr0wn

          I’m not following this switch to this or that, that people keep saying. Hangouts is my default texting app, and I can text from my Google account, phone number, or Google voice number on the fly. All this ‘advanced’ stuff comes off as PR talk to me. Although good on them for advancing the medium itself.

        • Drew

          Good for you. That’s all on you my Dear Friend. Hey check this out: T-Mobile US at least won’t make us use another texting app from google play store( knowing this high advanced text messaging stuff will work within the whole regulat text messaging app itself, just as long as you are on T-Mobiles now network and someone else being on the same cell network as you are on is when you won’t have to ever worry about downloading another app ever again). Hey then again since most of my other buddies do not have T-Mobile is when I will only chit chat it all up with them through Facebook Messenger and that is that right theres Bro.

        • NinoBr0wn

          ‘Good for you.’ Lol Bro. Can’t have a discussion about shit without people being childish.

        • Drew

          Seriously leave me alone dude. You are annoying. Now screw off.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Hangouts is the stock messaging app on Android phones.

          Not for Lollipop it isn’t.

          Or worst case scenario, you can turn it into a stock messaging app on your Android.

          There you go.

          I use a Nexus phone. No carrier bloatware needed/required.

          This isn’t carrier bloatware. Neither is HD Voice, VoLTE, and Wi-Fi Calling, yet the Nexus 6 has all of these baked in.

          Ideally, RCS will be baked in as well and it is, of course, something that can be toggled.

          Blackberry and iPhones have the same capabilities.

          All other OTT services are best-effort and are not associated with one’s number. RCS is carrier-deployed and integrated within the network core and is associated with one’s number.

          Hangouts and iMessage are slightly the exception to the number rule. iMessage, of course, being the superior offering due to the many RCS-like features such as typing notifications, delivery and read receipts, large file sizes, location sharing, etc. As far as I’m aware, Hangouts doesn’t do any of that. Both are still OTT and best-effort.

          So, who needs this really? Again, so, um, Hooray?

          No one needs this just like no one needs VoLTE or HD Voice (UMTS (W-CDMA)) or air conditioning.

          This is the evolutionary path for an archaic circuit-switched messaging service to a packet-switched (IP) one.

        • archerian

          All other OTT services are best-effort and are not associated with one’s number.

          As usual there you go again with absolutes … you obviously haven’t used Whatsapp, you know the messaging app with over 800M active users.

        • Fabian Cortez

          As usual there you go again with absolutes … you obviously haven’t used Whatsapp, you know the messaging app with over 800M active users.

          All OTT services are best-effort. Again, you lack basic comprehension.

          Troll along troll.

        • archerian

          again you show YOUR lack of comprehension. Whatsapp is associated with a regular mobile number. So my point is there IS an OTT app used by nearly a billion active users that is tied to one’s phone number.

          And guess what? If the port to a different operator/device, they can retrieve their messages from the archive. How does Advance Messaging do that again?

        • Fabian Cortez

          again you show YOUR lack of comprehension. Whatsapp is associated with a regular mobile number. So my point is there IS an OTT app used by nearly a billion active users that is tied to one’s phone number.

          If you trolled me properly, you would have seen that I pointed out Hangouts and iMessage. That still doesn’t change the best-effort nature of these OTT apps nor does your “nearly a billion active users” argument. Be mindful that these aren’t distinct users either.

          And guess what? If the port to a different operator/device, they can retrieve their messages from the archive. How does Advance Messaging do that again?

          People delete messages all of the time so archiving isn’t the selling point of OTT. The selling point is to avoid carrier charges for SMS/MMS which is still extremely popular overseas. These carrier charges are more expensive than the little bit of data that OTT uses. Add the features of OTT and it’s obvious where and how OTT apps have become popular.

          So it’s clear that you want to continue to derail and push your agenda for OTT services that are still cumbersome and require users to go out of their way to get setup. You also continue to ignore the best-effort nature and inefficiencies.

          As usual, this is tied to your utter lack of basic comprehension and your insistence on pushing your incorrect agenda. You’ve been proven wrong on this point before yet you insist on spewing nonsense and hoping it sticks.

          Yeah no, troll along.

        • archerian

          You made an incorrect statement that all other OTT apps are not tied to one’s number. Way to go hiding that in a long reply comment.

          Archiving might not be the main selling point of OTT apps, but they also offer the same feature of not using SMS/MMS and a trivial amount of data, even Wifi. And in several countries, Whatsapp data is subsidized and not counted, so people don’t even need a data plan.

          How is signing up for Whatsapp cumbersome? It provides additional flexibility of international messaging, across most devices and OSes AS OF TODAY. Along with archival, groups and VoIP calls.

          How can you state Archival is NOT a selling point of OTT as there are several users who switch devices, operators? Of course this is an advantage as it offers choice and not being tied to one system. And this is available TODAY, not “we hope… in the future…”

        • Fabian Cortez

          You made an incorrect statement that all other OTT apps are not tied to one’s number. Way to go hiding that in a long reply comment.

          Archiving might not be the main selling point of OTT apps, but they also offer the same feature of not using SMS/MMS and a trivial amount of data, even Wifi. And in several countries, Whatsapp data is subsidized and not counted, so people don’t even need a data plan.

          How is signing up for Whatsapp cumbersome? It provides additional flexibility of international messaging, across most devices and OSes AS OF TODAY. Along with archival, groups and VoIP calls.

          How can you state Archival is NOT a selling point of OTT as there are several users who switch devices, operators? Of course this is an advantage as it offers choice and not being tied to one system. And this is available TODAY, not “we hope… in the future…”

          Yeah, no.

          Troll along.

        • ppl r thick headed

          800M Active Users? And I don’t know a single one of them… So the only way that app would do me any good is to convince everybody I know and communicate with to adopt it also…. not. This is why RCS is a big deal for next gen texting.

        • archerian

          if you go the RCS route you’ll have to convince everybody you know to switch to T-Mobile and use Samsung devices too.. or just stick to SMS/MMS.. and hope that other operators implement RCS that is inter-operable with your device, again in the future.

          There is a big market outside the USA… most advancements in wireless technology don’t happen first in the USA.

        • JR

          Nice rebuttal, but Hangouts can tell me when someone’s typing. Large size and location sharing? Dunno about that. Don’t get me twisted, I love what T-Mo is doing carrier-wise, but this particular feature does not really get me that psyched.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Nice rebuttal, but Hangouts can tell me when someone’s typing. Large size and location sharing? Dunno about that. Don’t get me twisted, I love what T-Mo is doing carrier-wise, but this particular feature does not really get me that psyched.

          I don’t use Hangouts but thanks for the clarification. I have colleagues that use Hangouts but as you can tell, it’s isolated to that specific ecosystem which is optional. Once this is baked in to Android, iOS, and Windows 10 Mobile, it will finally bring the OSs together without the need for OTT.

          This is now carrier-wide and is expected to move cross-carrier just like SMS/MMS did back in the day. You don’t have to be psyched nor do you have to use it.

          Just like anything new, adoption rate is low and previous safety nets are in place.

  • Ascertion

    Ugh, sometimes I reply to text messages at a later time/date. If this becomes the norm, I’m going to be obligated to respond as soon as the other party sees “Read.”

    • williejackbrainer

      I feel the same way, however if all carriers aren’t doing this then it could a long time before that even happens.

      • Ascertion

        I am somewhat excited about being able to send larger videos and such, though.

    • archerian

      Hopefully instant ‘read receipt’ indicators can be turned off like in Whatsapp.

  • Like I know it’s coming to other devices, but can the carrier and smartphone love stop with the Samsung bias, as if they’re the only Androids they exist. I mean you’d think they’d have at least another manufacturer in that set, considering Samsung’s bloatware at that, even though I heard it has been toned down in the latest Galaxy S’s.

  • Kiwini

    Does iMessage work like this currently? I know Viber shows when user is typing or has seen message

  • kgraham182

    No one will use this at least for now, I believe MetroPCS was the 1st in the states to use RCS aka Joyn. Unless the big 2 support RCS which I believe is a part of the GSMA, don’t expect Advanced

    • archerian

      The Big 2 have to support it and the Big 2 OSes too… I can see ATT and VZW trying to bring messaging back under their control from OTT apps via RCS, but why would Google and Apple give back that control which they wrested from operators?

    • Drew

      Wrong bro. Wrong. It will be Advanced. MetroPCS had all of this happen back in year 2009. MetroPCS and T-Mobile both have already implemented Advanced texting within their regular text messaging app service Bro. lol

    • Fabian Cortez

      No one will use this at least for now, I believe MetroPCS was the 1st in the states to use RCS aka Joyn.

      Joyn is a third-party OTT app and is not carrier-deployed within the network core.

      Unless the big 2 support RCS which I believe is a part of the GSMA, don’t expect Advanced

      The same can be said for HD Voice (UMTS (W-CDMA)) and VoLTE yet we still benefit from it.

    • Jonathan S. Flores

      lolz you sound really stupid. everyone buying a grand prime, note 5 or edge + is already using it!! lolz

  • morbid

    Wow… I might actually be excited about this if it was like 1999, but IM clients have always done this, and Internet data has been available for a very long time.

    • williejackbrainer

      As long as your jamming with Prince LOL

  • lomsha

    No note 4? Humm.

  • JRod

    no iPhone support thought?

  • JayQ330

    Theirs an app called “telegram” it does everything, stickers, emoticons, 1.5 GB’s file sharing *remember file sharing? When photo, video, & sound were just files? Well it’s back & it’s extremely fast” the ui & file sharing ui is intuitive with some material design animation. I share huge files, & any kind at that up to 1.5 GB’s, 10 MB’s isn’t even worth 1 minute of 1080p stereo sound video… Oh yeah it’s open source to which is already used by everyone. Give it a try I promise you won’t regret it. It also let’s you voice chat, & has a security encrypted chat if you want to have a private chat of any kind..

    • Zack Kennedy

      Yeah so do a lot of other messaging apps, but the point here is T-Mobile is allowing this functionality WITHOUT having to download a separate app.

      As stated in the article: the goal of Advanced Messaging is to enable these features without requiring the user to download an extra app that may not be available on all platforms.

      Case in point, the “Telegram” app you mentioned wasn’t available on Windows Phone until a third party developer came along and made it. Then Telegram decided to let that third party developer’s app be their official app.

      Not just Android, iOS, and Windows Phone, but BlackBerry 10 and other operating systems too, particularly emerging ones. Advanced Messaging lets ALL platforms participate (after it launches beyond the initial Samsung handsets of course).

      • JayQ330

        My point is that it’s open source, not controlled, more “options”, isn’t a wannabe ” goChat” & as far as when I installed it was already open for every device… Also 1.5 gb upload/download limit will be much better than their “advanced messenger” so yeah… Open source encryption, open source code, & for everyone is as good as it will ever get. So your point of T-Mobile giving you something & making you feel like it’s better somehow, by the way you replied you probably a T-Mobile dk rider? But regardless, I was just trying to point out you don’t need to wait for an advanced messenger that’s probably made by Facebook messenger.

  • Randall Lind

    The video didn’t show anything

  • Drew

    Childish? Whose being childish sweetheart? I was just simply being normal and friendly thats all. You misread my expression wrong there Bro. Gosh. lol

  • leo98918

    So are they only going to support this feature on the Samsung phones only? That doesn’t sound like a great move to me, unless Samsung is supporting this financially, but then I feel like it would just be a feature Samsung would implement themselves.

    T-Mobile needs to support this on other manufacturer’s handsets, LG, Moto, HTC, Sony, etc…

  • Ray P Manatee

    I can’t believe the arguments in this comment section. THIS WILL MAKE IT SO YOUR TEXTING APP OUT OF THE BOX WILL FUNCTION LIKE iMESSAGE WITH HICAP FILE SHARING, READ REPORTS, TYPING REPORTS, ETC. YOU WILL NOT NEED TO DOWNLOAD ANYTHING ELSE TO MAKE THIS WORK, NOR WILL YOU NEED TO CONVINCE ANYONE TO JOIN WHATEVER APP YOU’RE USING IN ORDER FOR THIS TO WORK IN THE WORLD YOU LIVE IN, WHERE YOU FEEL YOU’RE OBVIOUSLY NEVER WRONG ABOUT ANYTHING AT ALL.

  • Romdude

    Some people don’t want to give up hangouts or whatsapp. Meh. Frankly I prefer the stock caller, if it has all the functions plus video, I’d use those functions. Try getting non tech savvy people to download apps and explaining to them they need it. If it works out of the box, more people will use it.