WSJ: T-Mobile and Dish in merger talks

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In possibly what is the most easily-predictable rumor, early this morning, Wall Street Journal reports that Dish Network and T-Mobile are in discussion about a possible merger. Its sources claim that if the deal goes through, both Charlie Ergen and John Legere would remain. The former will be chairman while Legere would be CEO.

Although both sides are seemingly in “close agreement” about what the combined company would look like, the finer details about finances are unresolved. WSJ claims that talks are in “the formative stage” and that there’s every chance a deal might not happen. If completed, the deal would be large. Both companies have market caps over $30 billion (T-Mo’s is $31B while Dish’s is $33B).

For months – maybe even years – now analysts and journalists have seen Dish and T-Mobile as perfect partners. Barely a month goes by when we don’t read someone’s thoughts about it. In fact, Investor’s Business Daily briefly hints at speculation in a post published recently. After last year’s spectrum auction, the merger made even more strategic sense than previously. Dish was reportedly one of the largest bidders for the AWS-3 spectrum in the November auction. With its 13.8 million satellite TV customers and 600k internet subscribers, Dish is a big enough company and offers T-Mobile the chance to consolidate and perhaps branch out in to new arenas.

As of right now, this is just a rumor. Albeit one published by a very respectable and rarely-wrong publication. There’s certainly a lot for the companies to iron out if a deal is going to happen. But it should be interesting to watch it all play out.

Source: WSJ

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  • Based on the rumored terms (mostly Legere’s position), I’d say that I wouldn’t mind this merger. Unlike with the now-failed Comcast and Time Warner merger, these two companies are both innovative. Dish just launched Sling TV and I don’t think I need to explain how T-Mobile changed the wireless industry.

    • Stone Cold

      Exactly

  • zack

    Awesome, maybe Dish Network will finally convince T-mobile to update the Galaxy S4 to Lollipop!

    • Whether or not a particular phone model gets updated (regardless of device popularity) often isn’t the carrier’s fault as the OEM must develop it first. Even after the OEM has passed it over for carrier testing, it will still take months. Not all carrier updates are provided from the OEM at once either.

      Nothing new here unless you’ve been living under a rock. My wife has the S3 but probably won’t be seeing an update even though the device can handle it. She doesn’t care though. The Galaxy series is good for those who value features over timely updates.

      However, if timely updates are your thing then you should own a Nexus 5 / 6 instead? Skip the OEM / Carrier delay and get updates pretty much as soon as Google makes them available. I know my Nexus will be rocking Android M this year. This was more important to me than the bloatware Samsung’s been peddling on their phones lately.

    • neospade44

      Upvote because this is hilarious!

  • MastarPete

    Interesting, makes me think someone at the FCC had already caught wind of this and that’s why they’re leaning against siding with T-Mobile’s 600mhz auction rules. I mean after what Dish pulled during the AWS-3 auction I can’t blame the FCC for not wanting to make things any easier for Dish to grab spectrum by way of T-Mobile.

    For all anyone knows, Dish could have put Legere up to making the request since Dish knew they wouldn’t have any ground to stand on after their AWS-3 shenanigans and existing unused spectrum.

    Not sure how I feel about a Dish Merger though, I seem to only hear bad things from customers. Plus I can’t help but think that if they’re willing to bend the rules to grab spectrum they’d have zero problem bending their subscribes over every chance they get.

    • Rob

      I agree. I can’t stand Dish. This deal would not be smart.

    • Acdc1a

      I think the hate is on pay TV in general. I get much better service from Dish than Comshaft or DirecTV. That said, I know I’m overpaying for service for channels I just don’t watch.

      • KlausWillSeeYouNow

        No provider has done more to unbundle channels than Dish. It’s simple fact. Every time they get sued for AutoHop, or a dispute happens, they lambaste the broadcasters for conspiring to disallow this.

    • John Doe

      “The FCC had already caught wind of this” That is laughable this rumor has been going on for the past 4 or 5 years…its nothing new and like the WSJ said it is still a rumor.

      And here is something good from a dish network customer, their service is the best. They have the best picture quality and the best technology (including satellites and DVRs) their prices aren’t the best but they are competitive. And besides whenever a merger happens the FCC, depending on how big the new company is, makes sure that it sells some of its customers or spectrum to its competitors so they level out the playing field so it doesn’t matter how much spectrum Dish or T-mobile have.

      What does buying spectrum have to do with treating your customers? T-mobile has been trying to bend the rules for the last few years and they treat their customers very well.

      The only bad things about dish network are the contracts and the customer service, two things that we know john legere can fix. Even Dish is changing by introducing SlingTV. I actually feel bad for John legere because he will have to deal with Networks to negotiate contracts so if he thought dealing with the FCC about spectrum was bad, he got another thing coming.

      • MastarPete

        Well sure it’s been rumored for a while, but it was only recently that Dish did something bad enough to piss people off at the FCC. If someone at the FCC caught wind that the merger is actually getting real, which is the point of the WSJ report, then it fits with them siding against T-Mobile’s recommendations.

        It’s the way in which Dish acquired the spectrum that was the problem, not that they bought it. Sure there are worse things Dish could have done but it does show a hint that they have shady business ethics and are right up there with the likes of ATT and Verizon. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if ATT and VZW did the same thing during the AWS3 auction, which they all should be punished for, but were just out gamed by Dish.

        Not that I think T-Mobile is some kind of altruistic saint or anything, but they do seem to have a better track record.

  • trife

    I’ll be glad when a merger finally happens so we can stop hearing about it every month.

    Enough already, DT. Make it happen already. It’s been like 5+ years of constant rumors.

  • Stone Cold

    This is the only one that makes sense with the spectrum they are holding. And if they merge and keep John as the head it can change the whole perception of DISH as their customer service is almost as bad as Comcast.

  • Adrayven

    Oh god.. help us.. Dish has the worst support and customer service on the planet.. second only to Cable.. I think most of their support staff contracted out of Bali, India. Serious.. Heavy accent.. hard to understand, script reading .. Helping my parents out with their DVR was a fiasco.

    And they LOVE contracts.. well, it was nice while it lasted T-Mobile.. yuck…

    • gmo8492

      The WSJ says that Dish’s current CEO would step down and become part of the board of directors and Legere would be the declared the new CEO of both companies. He might make things better since he tends to listen to customer service calls.

      • Walker

        “Tends to listen” is gross understatement lol. He’s replies directly to you on Twitter. And I say this from experience. It shocked me that he replied to me and got someone to help resolve my issue within 45 mins. Throughly impressed with him as CEO of T-Mobile. If this merger goes through, Dish customers are going to be in for a treat when it comes to customer service. But I agree

        • gmo8492

          I said that since I didn’t want people you flame me saying that he didn’t respond to their messages. But I got flamed regardless….lol. Yes I’m well aware John is very receptive to customers feedback and does reply back.

    • Whiskers

      Yep , my wife worked for them and at Dish it’s all about contracts and once they got you it’s hell time until your contract is up.
      I could post many stories about how f-ed up the management is at Dish but it would take to long and cause your computer to explode with all the bad vibe .
      Maybe with John in charge he can change some of that but the Rest of dish management still sucks .
      I’ll ride it out if it happens and see what goes down but i will not sign any contracts if T-Mobile goes back that route with Dish .

      • Hector Arteaga

        If the rumor is John remains as CEO, then I don’t think you have anything to worry about. He would change the culture. He has the track record to prove it.

    • Cole C

      Some valid points.

    • Mike Palomba

      I must say, I’ve never had dish, but TWC customer service is great every time I’ve had to call.

  • SteveD

    With Legere as CEO it’s possible that we could also see some UN-TV moves in the cable/satellite market.. God know that DISH has miles to go with customer pain points..

    • Acdc1a

      This could be great for customers of both services as I am.

  • gmo8492

    Maybe T-Mobile can finally get rid of their Tmotv service and replace it with slingtv. Of course this is just pure speculation but the possibilities are just too great.

    • DKBNYC

      T-Mobile TV is still a thing?

      • Scott Weaver

        It’s the first T-Mobile bloatware I disable on every phone I get.

  • KingofPing

    The UnISP…

    Can you even begin to imagine what TMo could do to the ISP racket?

    (I know, I know…wishful thinking….)

  • sushimane

    very interesting everybody would remain the same john remain the ceo of tmobile while charlie would be chairman of both but tmobile should be remain a separate entity so tmobile can do everything it want while dish can just reek the benefits which dish would want. This could be the big deal for tmobile to really catch up to verizon and att by network coverage. but this is all rumors im just gonna take this with a grain of salt.

    • Cole C

      T-Mobile isn’t making money are they? Buying peoples contracts and devices is hurting them correct? What benefits would dish be reeking? Not trying to flame. Serious question.

      • sushimane

        idk Somewhat making money with the dt investor conference i read couple weeks ago Tmobile usa accounted for half a little bit more to dt profit margin that’s why dt aren’t in a rush to sell them but looking for good partnership.

      • BillSmitty

        Mobile infrastructure and even more spectrum, that’s what’s in it for Dish.

        • Cole C

          K thanks

      • itguy08

        Contract payouts cost as much as or less than phone subsidies so it’s a wash. T-Mobile is making $ but they are spending most of that in badly needed network upgrades.

        They are in fine financial shape.

        • archerian

          Network upgrades are from loans, either via issuing bonds or stock. No way T-mobile is making enough money to invest in network upgrades from Operating Income.

        • itguy08

          Nope, I suggest you read T-Mobile’s Q1 financials….

          http://investor.t-mobile.com/Cache/1001197520.PDF?Y=&O=PDF&D=&fid=1001197520&T=&iid=4091145

          Bonds are for spectrum purchases. Revenue is more than enough to cover the 2G to LTE conversions.

          Q1 2015
          $1.4 Billion EBITDA
          $982 Million Capex

    • gmo8492

      Actually these rumors feel stronger than ever, I’ve seen a few news agency’s reporting on the possible merger already. Then John Legere did say a few weeks ago that a merger with Dish would “make sense” when he was asked about possible mergers. Since T-Mobile and Dish do not directly compete with each other there wouldn’t be much opposition from the FCC.

      • Sushimane

        Very true I just want to see t-mobile as separate entity so t-mobile could work their magic and gain coverage with all the spectrum it’s going to gain. I’m just curious on dish spectrum they have so much spectrum is unbelievable. So I’m just gonna sit and wait until this comes into detail how it’s gonna be.

  • Hector Arteaga

    If it happens, it would put tmo in an excellent spectrum position. They could also bundle Sling TV, HBO Go (from dish sub’s) and Showtime Anytime. If this pCell tech Dish is supporting in San Francisco is successful, then you could potentially be watching a lot more TV from your smartphone. I would personally be interested in the bundles you could get.

  • Walker

    The best news I’ve heard this week. Just music to my ears

    • KlausWillSeeYouNow

      Me too!

  • Shreyas Pandit

    Does anyone remember exactly what spectrum dish had? I wonder how fast T-Mobile can apply that and what their coverage / speed would look like after?

    • Joe

      The spectrum that dish has is not that good for expanding coverage in rural arias but it will allow t-mobile to have wideband in a lot more places.

      • Justin Smith

        Only IG it’s contiguous spectrum which I don’t think it is.. Not until carrier aggregation at least.

        • Joe

          Hmm so what bands do you need for the spectrum that they have?

        • Justin Smith

          What? Do you mean what frequency numbers?

        • Joe

          Ether the frequency numbers of or basically what LTE bands the frequencies that they own need. Like LTE band 4,2 and 12.

    • Hector Arteaga

      They had 45Mhz nationwide before the auction, so I think that puts them at 65Mhz total. Correct me if wrong.

    • jay

      25MHz of AWS-3
      some PCS H
      700MHz D,E.

  • Shreyas Pandit

    I wonder if it makes sense for t-mobile to remove modems and DVR/cable boxes, rather make cellphone tethering unlimited and offer tv services as an app that can be stream. Also wonder if they would try to package all premiums (HBO,showtime, cinemax,etc) into a subscription bundle for 14.99 and compete with Netflix.

    • moonoverparma

      The network could never handle that.

    • archerian

      $14.99 for HBO, Showtime and Cinemax won’t be possible as it would cost more than that to get those channels wholesale.

  • vinnyjr

    As long as John Legere is running the show I have complete trust that T-Mobile will be AOK.

    • archerian

      the folks at Global Crossing said the same thing…

  • Paul Garrison

    Well, they have the spectrum. So there you go. If they offer some kind in bundle I guess I’ll drop Direct TV.

    • GuessWho

      Directv will soon become AT&T. The Directv as we know it will go away.

      • Paul Garrison

        That’s helping make my decision easy.

    • KlausWillSeeYouNow

      Even if they don’t merge, you should still drop DirecTV. :-)

      • Paul Garrison

        Not you again, you are like a bad cavity around here. :-) I guess you may finally get your wish.

        • thepanttherlady

          As opposed to a good cavity? =P

        • Paul Garrison

          HAHAHA! I should have said an extremely painful one.

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          I sort of resent being called a cavity at all :-/ lol

  • bryck

    I think it’s great! T Mobile will be able to access an enormous amount of spectrum, and resources. With John Legere at the helm, things could only get better. AT&T and Verizon will have to compete.

    • Justin Smith

      Charlie Ergens is at the real helm, Legere just has his tiny ore while Ergens has the rudder…

  • Cole C

    Would anyone else here like Verizon if they were gsm. They didn’t tramp stamp their devices. They didn’t lock down their devices you know root and bootloader. And finally if they were cheaper than T-Mobile? Hell will freeze over before that happens lol

    • Mike Palomba

      Well it would make them more appealing because if I wanted to switch I could just take my T-Mobile device and pop a verizon sim in it. On the other hand they’re still very expensive

  • William Burr Winans

    The proposal will at this time more sense since Dish has AWS 3 Spectrum. After the 600MHz Auction it will make both Dish and T-Mobile more competitive when combined. I’d rather see the merger happen sooner than later let’s just hope it happens sometime next summer!

    • Sushimane

      Let’s just hope we get to keep our unlimited data plans haha

      • William Burr Winans

        With how much spectrum Dish has ABSOLUTELY!

        • Sushimane

          They have a crazy load I was reading on fiercewireless.com they say dish might bid for maybe half of t-mobile which is fine. T-mobile still reek the benefit of all that spectrum. Hopefully John would still be ceo of the whole thing.

        • thepanttherlady

          Before someone flames you, it’s reap not reek.

        • Sushimane

          I’m just taking it with a grain of salt. But we can only wait and see . That’s all I’m saying I love t-mobile.

        • zodro

          Too much Game of Thrones :-)

      • John Doe

        Well even John Legere isn’t promising to keep unlimited data around he said that it will probably end but doesn’t know when. Its the best way carriers will be able to make profit in the future, to encourage people to pay for 3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10GB of data. Even Google sees this with project Fi.

  • Grant Chapman

    Am I the only one who sees this as a really bad idea? These are two completely different cultures and two companies that already are high in debt. These are are also two completely different industries and aside from bundling, have no synergies. Dish is one of the most hated companies in the tech industry. Their whole business model is based on bait and switch and luring people into a contract. We’ve seen many big mergers in the past, but almost never do you see the acquired company’s culture become the norm. The spectrum is also not prime spectrum. Yes, it is spectrum, but I don’t see it as too much better than what sprint has in the EBS and BRS spectrum. If anything, it just adds additional scrutiny from the FCC and Tmobile can no longer play the “we don’t have enough spectrum” card when arguing for the Low band set asside.

    I don’t know at all about this one. John may be the CEO, but at the end of the day, charlie Ergan owns most of the company and he is still in control. Many people said the same thing about the sprint-nextel and aol-timewarner mergers. After these two merge, the company will be in high debt, two completely different corporate cultures, have little cash to compete in the 600MHz auction or build out the network further, will be saddled with a quickly dying paytv business, all at the same time trying to compete in a competitive wireless industry with little room to grow aside from steeling customers. I guarantee once this is done, john will not have the power or permission to give service away or at the discounts we get now. Hopefully, I am wrong.

    • Dante

      You perfectly summed up your opinion and knowledge with the first sentence of your second paragraph, “I don’t know at all about this one.” Everything is speculation until a merger actually happens; unless you are at the tables you have no idea if its good or bad.

    • KlausWillSeeYouNow

      This is totally unlike Sprint-Nextel. I am, and have been for years now, rooting for this.

  • WeAreDoomed

    Charles Ergen will cause T-mobile to be the most hated cell phone company in America.

    • jay

      John would be CEO if anything just as he changed TMO’s branding perception he can do the same with Dish

      • archerian

        not with Ergen as Chairman… DT gave TMUS basically free reign to run and rebrand, that doesn’t seem to be possible with T-Dish.

        • jay

          LOL at “T-Dish” . Time will surely tell, Ergen has expressed he likes what JL and company have done thus far. We shall see what happens if it happens at all.

  • pda96

    I like it! TMO will instantly have access to low frequency spectrum.

    • Mike

      Actually, no it won’t. Most of Dish spectrum is not low band/frequency.

      • jay

        25MHz of AWS-3
        some PCS H
        700MHz D,E.

        • Durandal_1707

          According to sequence-omega, Dish/Echostar only has the E block, and AT&T has the D block nationwide.

    • FluX

      No, they only have one block of 700 MHz spectrum (6 MHz bandwith) and it’s only good for downlink – aka unusable without carrier aggregation.

  • OhNooo

    T-mobile employees, get ready to go to the unemployment lines

  • iMotoXperiaGalaxy

    People use Dish or any satellite garbage?

    Haha!

    • John Doe

      I do and they have the best quality out there.

      • archerian

        your statement is way out there.

        • John Doe

          Does not make it false.

    • KlausWillSeeYouNow

      Behold: The ignorant cable customer. What do you have, the X1 DVR? HA!

  • Contracts?

    T-mobile, thanks for the UN-carrier. It was good to know you. We had fun together. :(

    • Mary

      Not necessarily dude. If merged is when John Legere would then become the brand new CEO for the combined businesses there bud. So therefore you will still be in great hands.

    • jay

      John Legere would be CEO of both companies.

      • archerian

        but as long as Charlie Ergen is chairman, he will have all the power. This won’t be Uncarrier as we know it.

        • jay

          Point taken, Although its same position as DT now they control everything but JL is running the show. Ergen cant be that stupid and stop the uncarrier.

        • archerian

          The combined company will have a lot of debt and it would be under pressure to turn good profits soon. Uncarrier is all good for the consumer, but shareholders won’t have patience. Uncarrier is too good to go away, but it’s possible that prices may increase, unlimited data stops, contracts might come back. I hope things stay the same, but chances are they will change. To what extent remains to be seen.

        • John Doe

          T-mobile seems to be managing its debt fine, although I don’t think they have any. And even Dish Network is stepping away from contracts with SlingTV thats why they are going into the wireless industry even AT&T and Verizon are changing why in the world would Dish and T-mobile bring back contracts? LoL

        • archerian

          T-mobile does not have debt

          WOW!! This is the quote of the day. TMUS the publicly traded company does indeed have debt, around $24B. TMUS’s Debt/Equity of 158.79% is very high. And how will Dish fund the merger, it’s not like they have AAPL like cash reserves. Dish already borrowed for the recent AWS3 auction.

        • John Doe

          “T-mobile seems to be managing its debt fine, although I don’t think they have any” at least quote correctly.

          Technically, DT is the one that has all that debt not T-mobile.

          And I need a source for that $24B debt…thank you.

        • archerian

          I quoted what you initially posted, which you later corrected when you saw TMUS actually has debt.
          Maybe I should keep screenshots since you seem to be changing your statements.

          And technically you are misinformed. The $24B debt is on T-Mobile USA’s balance sheet, not DT. Go to any finance site like yahoo or Google finance and check under liabilities, you will see the $24B debt.

        • John Doe

          No I corrected it RIGHT AFTER I posted and before you replied because I couldn’t remember if and how much T-mobile had debt and it took you well over 10 mins to reply so you defiantly replied after I edited. You still do not have a source and I will not do your work for you. When a merger happens there are all sorts of agreements where the parent company takes the debt or they pay it off or whatever we don’t know what will happen or what the agreement is. But the point is that Dish and T-mobile are handling their debt fine especially dish so I do not see that there will be a problem when they are together.

        • Julien
        • John Doe

          Thank you at least someone knows how to source stuff instead of babbling on and on and on…

        • archerian

          So do you still think “T-mobile seems to be managing its debt fine, although I don’t think they have any” and that “Technically, DT is the one that has all that debt not T-mobile.” ??? :-)

        • John Doe

          Yes I do stil think that they are managing their debt fine and I still do not know who will handle the deal with the debt DT or T-mobile but Dish Network would probably be buying DT’s shares anyways so we will have to wait and see.

        • archerian

          nice way to sidestep your last misinformed statement about “DT is the one that has all that debt not T-mobile”

          Regardless of whatever the agreement is between TMUS and Dish, the debt won’t magically vanish. When all parties need to borrow money to fund the merger, debt will only increase.

          Maybe I should “defiantly reply” with a link to the actual source. Some actual reading would seem to help your lack of facts. It’s here -> http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/tmus/financials/balance-sheet
          I can’t scroll down the link for you so I hope you will be able to go to the section that says ‘Long-Term Debt’.

        • John Doe

          Oh look who finally learned how to quote correctly and source their information…YAY. You get a B in English 101 because you still did not learn to quote 100% correctly it is “defiantly [reply]” not “defiantly reply” but kudos to you, you also have a “nice way to sidestep your…” complete and utter disregard to how mergers work and focus on grammar mistakes… BRAVO.

        • KingCobra

          As do all of these cell companies. AT&T/VZW are also saddled with tens and billions of debt from their recent purchases and spectrum acquisitions along with their lowest profit margins in years. I don’t think the debt is really an issue going forward. At least not as big as some are trying to make it out to be.

        • archerian

          Debt is manageable as long as there is strong cash flow to fund debt management costs. ATT and VZW still have strong revenue streams, they are in a far better position to manage it. The combined company’s debt will only increase when both partners have their own chunk.

        • Hector Arteaga

          I hope not, but it is a valid concern.

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          Wrong. Ergen is a disruptive force. It will be excellent. Dish is the T-Mobile of TV.

        • archerian

          Finally they all have to answer to the shareholder piper. Disruptive or not. There is no loyalty in Wireless that any company can be disruptive and profitable in the long run.

        • John Doe

          DT is worse than Ergen but they kept John Legere and listened to him even sprint’ s Masayoshi Son wanted John Legere they would be stupid to fire him or not listened to him

  • #FkingDishHeads

    Go to hell beast!

    • Mary

      Check this part out though, John Legere will become new CEO for the combined businesses you idiot. lol Calm down dude.

      • thepanttherlady

        If you can’t post without calling everyone names, then don’t.

        • Mary

          Look Im sorry. I wasnt meaning it in a bad way at all, I was meaning it to have them know that John Legere will be CEO. Come on now panther. We had an misunderstanding here sweetie.

        • thepanttherlady

          #1: Not your sweetie
          #2: There is no misunderstanding in calling someone names. I took that part out of your post and it still gets the point across, right?

        • Mary

          Um you are pathetic and an airhead for allowing someone to say whatever they like as bad. Get out of my face with thay crap sweetie. Please girlfriend you have no room to talk. Lets go. Go get your braincells checked.

        • Hector Arteaga

          Get her banned please. This back and forth is unnecessary.

        • Jacky

          Banned banned banned. lol that part is hilarious. Getting people banned is so much fun if you ask me.

        • Paul

          No no NO!
          This is better than the drama crap I’m stuck watching at home!

        • Paul

          GIVE’EM HECK, PANTHERLADY!!

          But really, I know the others agree with me when I say we appreciate that there is some moderation to name calling and inappropriate behavior in here.

        • thepanttherlady

          I, personally don’t mind if people want to curse when they comment but will just never understand why they feel the need to call someone else a name.

          And thank you, I appreciate your appreciation. :)

        • Mary

          Why is it okay for other people to use foul languaged on boards like these?? With the name calling hell and Fking. But whenever I say Idiot you get upset? What is wrong with you?

        • Mike Palomba

          I see you on nearly every T-Mobile related forum making really stupid comments. Could you tone it down? Or leave?

        • Goat

          If I think someone is acting stupid I might use an appropriate .gif to post. Obviously, it needs to be approved by a mod :D

        • Mike Palomba

          Lol I didn’t even know you could post .gif’s on here

        • thepanttherlady

          Unfortunately, you can only post a link but I approve most that are posted when I see them come through.

        • Goat

          Sorry, mean’t that you can post a link TO the .gif :P

        • Mary

          Shut up and be quiet. No one was talking to you. Go away you animal. Goodbye. Not wanted around me anyways. Haaaaa. Gooo to sleep. I was praising John Legere for becoming CEO if the merger happened.

        • Mike Palomba

          And now, yet another one of your comments has been flagged. Too bad there isn’t a way to ban someone from this site. Most people who comment on here keep it kind and resourceful, you on the other hand have no filter and no manners.

        • Jacky

          Lol you are hilarious. Have a good day sir. In reality no one really has any sort of manner to an extent, not saying you though. And please do not worry about these trolls on here, dont allow them to ruin your day.

        • thepanttherlady

          Took the trash out. The air should clear up shortly. :)

        • Mike Palomba

          Thank you

        • orlando duran

          Thank you

        • thepanttherlady

          Firstly, there is a difference between calling someone names (especially for no reason) and foul language.

          You are one of the few commenters whose posts get flagged every single time you post. Maybe take a breath and reread what you write before hitting the comment button? If everyone else thinks you’re being a douche, chances are, you are.

        • Mary

          Excuse me ms. you are wrong. Foul mouth and calling names are bad to be using on this form. So dont you even go there with me. You must be that pathetic and out of place to actually accuse me of calling people names for no reason. So be quiet and stop being so pathetic and getting on my case for no freaking reason you old lady. Goodbye.

        • Hector Arteaga

          Chill out. Seriously.

        • Mary

          Nooo you chill out you lady bug. Goodbye dude. Stalker and a nosey person being pathetic. Worry about yours dude.

        • Jacky

          Lol you chill out buddy.

  • KingCobra

    This is about the only merger that makes sense. T-Mobile combined with Dish’s midband holdings would make them a monster in urban areas with ridiculous speed and capacity. It should also provide them the scale to obtain a good chunk of 600 MHz for rural expansion in the auctions against the Big 2.

  • Logan S

    First thing that came to mind: “Spectrum, baby, spectrum. Yeah, baby!”

    Second thing that came to mind: satellite TV business will distract T-Mobile and Legere. Crossing finger it won’t turn out like the Sprint and Nextel disaster.

    • ltnstar

      I dont think you can compare it to sprint nextel. Those 2 had different tech and bands. And sprint stopped the maintenance on nextel once the merger was completed.
      Dish won’t be selling sat TV in its future. This why its buying spectrum. This will be the new pipeline for entertainment.

      So think you sub to sling TV then get a better deal using tmobiles pipeline.

  • Whiskers

    John Legere may be the CEO in charge if the deal goes through but Charles Ergen will still call the final shots.
    I can smell contracts in the future just like all the other big boys once the dust settles , Dish loves to have you nailed on contract then it’s bend over time .

    • TechnoRealz

      But Legere has disrupted the industry already.
      Now you can go to any MVNO & get the same call quality & unlimited data as the top 4 US carriers at the near same prices.

  • Mike Palomba

    If they merge I think it would make sense to just brand the whole company T-Mobile. Verizon has verizon Fios, ATT will most likely soon have dish so if T-Mobile could become both a wireless and wireline service provider it could be great.

    • jay

      Att will have Directv

    • Jacky

      No AT&T has Directv now. Sorry.

      • Mike

        It’s still not finalized . The DirectvAT&T could end up like the Comcast/Time Warner merger that was canceled.

        • UMA_Fan

          Unlikely because there is no loss of competition

        • Cellphone Chris

          Actually the opposite. Comcast and TW had no overlap in service areas, while DirecTV’s footprint overlaps pretty much all providers, since they aren’t terrestrial in nature. Any provider merging with satellite will result in a loss of competition for consumers, except at dwellings that don’t allow satellite, like condos, etc.

  • TK – Indy

    Put me in as skeptical that they will be able to make this happen. Ergen and Legere are both Alpha males and will fight for dominance of the pack. The spectrum carrot may be enough to make Legere relent as T-mobile is running out of options on that issue, but the result would not be the T-mobile you know and love.

    • Hector Arteaga

      I really don’t see John as an Alpha personality. He’s more of an incredibly outgoing beta. He seems kind of shy actually and you can tell it is all an act during the uncarrier events.

      • KlausWillSeeYouNow

        He’s definitely still in beta. He gets really glitchy sometimes, and requires frequent restarts. I’m hoping Dish can help make a stable release of Legere at some point.

  • brybry

    Maybe we’ll get TVFREEDOM ?

    • TK – Indy

      What you would get is endless telemarketers selling everything from a lifetime supply of light bulbs to pet insurance. Dish sells its customer contacts to anyone with a nickel.

      • KlausWillSeeYouNow

        That’s bull. You have no evidence to support that claim, and it’s patently false.

        • Paul

          To be fair you don’t have proof that they don’t.

          To both of you, when you give your number to an organization they more than likely give it out to other companies. It happens A LOT. I’m on the Do Not Call list but still get the occasional call.

          So Dish may or may not do this. If their agreement says they don’t then they can’t legally do it. If they never make the promise then it can very much happen.

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          Just because you still get calls (as do I) does not mean Dish is responsible for them. With every cable, satellite, and cellular provider I’ve ever had, I’ve always received spam calls in violation of the National Do Not Call Registry. I doubt the providers have anything to do with it.

        • Paul

          I suspect they do, but I don’t have proof otherwise and it’s jut my opinion.

          I’m not making the accusation but I am saying that it can very well be them.

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          It could, but thinking logically, I highly doubt the limited income and negative PR such an endeavor would unavoidably generate could not possibly seduce any service provider into a cooperative agreement like you are suggesting. Telemarketing is a declining industry, and such calls are a liability to any reputable national provider. It is in their best interest to stop, and not encourage, them. Everybody hates telemarketers. The damage to a carrier’s image just wouldn’t be worth it.

        • Paul

          I don’t disagree with you, but never say never. Ha ha, I have every bit of suspicion the TWC would totally sell off information.

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          LMAO… Very good point. Haha! Yes, TWC and Comcast are possible exceptions. They’re too awful already to possibly give a crap about something like that.

          Very good point indeed. :-D

        • Paul

          HA HA, if TWC is doing it you know Comcast is too!

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          You said it. Two of the worst companies in the history of ever. That’s why I root for Dish; love to see them get their asses kicked.

        • TK – Indy

          From January 2015. “How many National Do Not Call List violations does it take to get yourself a class-action lawsuit? The magic number would appear to be 57,606,609—or at least it is in the case of “United States of America, and the States of California, Illinois, North Carolina, and Ohio v. Dish Network, L.L.C.,” currently working its way towards a verdict.”

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          I’m still not convinced, and it’s still pending a verdict. I highly doubt they engaged in such behavior, or violated the federal Do Not Call statutes.

        • archerian

          wow, the levels of disbelief in anything not pro Tmobile (or Dish from now on) is astounding. Look for a Dish-FTC settlement next month.

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          Yes, because there’s never been a class-action suit against a huge corporation that wasn’t utter bullsh*t, right? Every lawsuit is justified. In fact, let’s just assume the defendant is guilty! Why even have a legal process? Imagine all the time we’d save!

          Nowadays, a settlement means nothing. It’s not an admission of guilt; it’s usually to shut up and decisively dismiss the petulance of the plaintiff, at least in some cases.

        • archerian

          I’m not asking you to declare them guilty, but you still doubt they did this? 57M calls and in addition to the federal government, California, Illinois, Ohio, and North Carolina are also party to bringing the charges against Dish. The case already has a partial summary judgement, so from what I understand it’s now moving to a penalty phase with time in between for a settlement.

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          To be honest, I was remarking generally on the nature of many cases brought against corporations, and I am not educated enough about this one at the present time to have an opinion other than I seriously doubt Dish intentionally breached the terms of their own contract or federal law. The FTC got on T-Mobile’s ass over the premium SMS charges, and you and I both know that was an industry practice and they were not the only carrier engaging in such behavior. They didn’t deserve to be singled out, and it wasn’t even illegal to do that – just sort of anti-consumer.

          I’m not looking to pick a fight; all I’m saying is that is my reservation on having a pro-plaintiff stance. I just generally doubt that Dish engaged in anything explicitly illegal. It is possible this is a shakedown.

        • Michael Sletten

          there is no such thing as a national do not call list. at least not one that is governed by any type of government body

        • archerian

          Quote from their privacy policy on their website – “… permits us to disclose limited personally identifiable information to others, such as charities, marketing organizations, or other businesses, for satellite or non-satellite “mailing list” or other purposes. From time to time we may disclose your name and address for these purposes.”

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          That’s their website privacy policy, not the terms of service that you agree to when signing up for service. Nice try though.

        • archerian

          OK let me clarify, its an electronic copy of their satellite residential service privacy policy that users agree to when they sign up. Yes, they have a copy of it online for perusal, and it’s on their website (where else) and its separate from their website usage policy. In fact the same document specifically states the policy for the website is a separate agreement not covered by this.

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          Well, then you may be right. I didn’t articulate this well before, but what I mean to convey is that I seriously doubt Dish breached whatever terms of service that customers were enrolled under. If that is part of the agreement, then so be it, but I seriously doubt that information is going to shady telemarketing agencies. There isn’t much money in that anymore. Truth is, we don’t know how it’s used – but if the consumer signs an agreement like that, it’s not Dish’s fault for operating within the terms of that contract.

  • #MaryTheTroll

    Take your grade school lines back to the pack of wolf’s you were orginaly raised by. Troll!

  • Mike

    Dish owns Sling TV so I could see Dish making plans that included Sling TV. Also T-Mobile is the best option Dish has to enter the wireless industry and T-Mobile could use Dish spectrum so this is a win win for both sides.

    • KlausWillSeeYouNow

      Damn straight!

    • archerian

      A win-win for both sides doesn’t always bode well for consumers.

      • Mike

        At the end of the day they’re both in the business of trying to make profits .

  • Jessie

    Idk how I feel about this. I feel as though dish has more of a win out of this than T-Mobile. The uncarrier movement will slowly fade away. Outside of that something doesn’t sit right with me. Ok John will be ceo of both companies but I feel like john is keeping his role to make sure people don’t leave in masses because g the rep that dish has but who’s to say john won’t leave once the merge goes though?

  • KlausWillSeeYouNow

    Oh yes. This is most excellent. I hate to say I told you so, but – I TOLD YOU SO!

    • thepanttherlady

      I was wondering what took you so long to get to the party! LOL

      • KlausWillSeeYouNow

        Haha I’ve been too busy doing my victory dance :-)

    • StopTheMerger

      You sound like a DISH employee? Are you? How is the culture at DISH? No need for that at T-mobile.

      • KlausWillSeeYouNow

        I’m a fan, not an employee. And no need for what? Humor? Must be a boring job, then.

  • Signal Loss

    Can someone say signal loss?

    • OhNooo

      I better not loose service in inclement weather.

  • Jay J. Blanco

    Well I guess a network roaming agreement can be reached for USCC because t-mobile can’t buy them now :-(

    I’m all for this because of the spectrum that tmobile needs to keep up with customer acquisition

    • thepanttherlady

      If someone has already initiated a reply to a comment before or while an edit is being made, they won’t see it. So no, they won’t definitely see the edit.

      • Jay J. Blanco

        Thanks

    • Vontae Everton

      T-Mobile was going to buy uscc

      • Jay J. Blanco

        Sources?

  • archerian

    you do realize that EBIDTA is basically a misleading number that has any capital obtained via debt factored in as “income”?

    To qualify your statement that TMUS revenue “is more than enough to cover the 2G to LTE conversions” we need to see the Cash Flow. I assume you meant revenue led to increase in cash that allowed the upgrades to be done without eating into reserves. Cash reserves went down Q1, so if they actually made enough money to fund network upgrades, why would cash flow go down? Net cash from operations is $489M while outflow was $2.7B of which $1.7B was for spectrum. So the remaining nearly $1B for equipment/property was from? It was from cash reserves obtained via debt.

  • samagon

    as a happy subscriber to both, I’m happy to hear this news, and hopefully it actually happens.

    there’s benefit for users of both services, as well as benefits to be had by both companies.

    • Adam

      I am sure there is a lot of customer overlap. Both companies live on the same side of the good/fast/cheap triangle.

  • Philip

    I read another article that more than likely Verizon will get Dish.

    • KlausWillSeeYouNow

      No way. That eliminates waaaay too much competition in the TV market. T-Dish, on the other hand, promotes it, as the number of players in each industry remains the same. The DOJ and FCC would never allow a Verizon-Dish shacking. That author must be smoking crack.

      • GinaDee

        Not really. It’s fair game to be honest.

        AT&T is allowed to buy DirecTV. Verizon will be allowed to buy Dish if it even went down that way. Verizon’s pay TV share is so tiny right now as it is.

        Whether Verizon wants to get in a bidding war or make some kind of hostile takeover is another story. Right now they are still trying to digest their Vodafone shares buyout for Verizon Wireless.

        I would rather Dish + T-Mobile pair together though.

        • Jay J. Blanco

          The moral of the story is AT&T Direct TV buyout is gonna be blocked.

        • fentonr

          I don’t think so, they don’t really compete all that much. A lot of Direct TVs customers are outside the US. Plus, when you look at what each does in the US there isn’t all that much overlap. AT&T does primarily wireless and some fixed line phone, internet and TV. Direct TV does primarily TV and some internet but no wireless.

          Even if the government did want to block the merger there isn’t a good argument for it because where the two do overlap (basically just TV) they’re still a comparatively small player. The argument that they would likely give if the government did attempt to block them is that Comcast sucks and this merger makes a stronger competitor and without it AT&T may just continue to sell off land line assets and focus on wireless in the US and Central America.

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          AT&T is rapidly expanding south of the border. Look at their Iusacell and Nextel MX acquisitions for further proof.

        • fentonr

          Yes they are. I think I may have missed the point you were getting at.

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          I was agreeing with you. That’s the point. Lol!

        • fentonr

          Oh! Then I did get it!

        • Jay J. Blanco

          There’s one huge thing you obviously overlooked SPECTRUM that’s the huge argument.

        • fentonr

          True, but I didn’t think Direct TV owned a lot of spectrum. Dish does, but I’ve not heard anything about Direct TV having a lot.

        • fentonr

          I agree. I also don’t think Ergen would like the idea of selling to Verizon as that basically means giving up his company. Buying T-Mobile on the other hand means he can go back to just being chairman. Still retain control but not having to do the every day work.

          Still, large bags of money go a long ways, I’m sure Ergen could be convinced for the right price.

        • Jay J. Blanco

          Verizon can’t they are in the mist of buying AOL. That has to be a proved or rejected first. Plus t-mobile is probably gonna get a nice break up fee and I’m sure Dish doesn’t want to lose any spectrum like AT&T did

        • fentonr

          Companies can purchase more than one other company at the same time. Charter is attempting to acquire Brighthouse and TWC at the same time. Verizon buying AOL doesn’t really impact their ability to attempt to buy Dish if they wanted to.

        • Jay J. Blanco

          Verizon isn’t even serious on the TV/Capable front they are selling assets and when Hurricane Sandy hit the Northeast and they mailed customers that had outages and told them they weren’t investing money to repair the damages to reconnect them. Verizon doesn’t care about Cable/TV

        • fentonr

          Oh right, that’s the other bit I forgot to mention, I agree, I think the rumor of Verizon buying Dish is a bunch of BS. You’re completely right, Verizon doesn’t care about that market so buying Dish would make no sense. I’m just saying they could if they wanted to.

        • Jay J. Blanco

          I understand but t-mobile needs this more then anything. I hope it goes through so bad.

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          Ergen is not easily convinced, even if bags of money are at stake. I admire his resolve. Look at the dispute between Dish Network and 21st Century Fox for proof.

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          AT&T is buying Verizon under MAJOR restrictive circumstances. It even required them to modify the price structure of their wireline ISP business and adhere to the Title II provision of Net Neutrality, which is a huge setback for them. FierceCable had a great article on that. This merger is coming at a much more major coat than AT&T had originally anticipated, but the fallout of backing out is more punishing than complying with the FCC’s demands, so they’ll complete the merge and bite whatever bullet the government tells them to.

          Verizon and Dish would be far more of a consolidating transaction than AT&T and DirecTV. Verizon is already the nation’s largest wireless carrier in terms of subscriber volume, and offers wireline services even in non-FiOS areas.

          But I totally agree with you. A T-Dish hookup would mean great things for consumers and be a disruptive force in the industry. It would also have the potential to absolutely bury Sprint. ;-)

        • Hector Arteaga

          The burying of Sprint is not something you should look forward to as a consumer. I love tmo, but it is good Sprint is out there to keep the industry honest.

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          Yes, I totally agree. Verizon and AT&T should be the primary objects of T-Mo’s progression, and not Sprint. But it is not good that Sprint is where it is and already Claure has explicitly stated that unlimited is potentially on the chopping block. A bigger, better, stronger T-Mo could keep the entire industry more competitive for longer.

        • Hector Arteaga

          This is true.

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          Eh… unlimited is unlimited. I want that. :-)

          I wouldn’t repeat that too loudly, as we don’t want to give them the impression we’d tolerate it if that was done away with. There is this common misconception that unlimited is unsustainable on a long-term basis, yet it totally isn’t.

        • Plus, unlimited scales with the future. Remember when we thought 200MB was a reasonable usage for most customers?

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          You’re right. Well put. We can’t give in; unlimited is the future, not the past.

        • Hector Arteaga

          Keep your eye out on pCell technology then :-)

        • As long as it doesn’t cost $400, that is.

        • Hector Arteaga

          That’s true. Like VZW.

        • AussieB

          Don’t know why Tmobile customers on this blog care if Sprint is #3 or 4…it won’t affect your service. The bigger Tmobile gets, the worse it’ll be for you

        • UMA_Fan

          The bigger T-Mobile gets the more competitive Verizon and Att get. We’ve seen evidence of this already.

        • Hector Arteaga

          It can go both ways. If tmo gets bigger, then it becomes a better acquisition target for a richer company. Seems like a good thing to me. Dish might not be bigger, but combined, they would be a force to be reckoned with. With the added spectrum, it would only help us end users.

        • UMA_Fan

          It’s not tmobiles or any other company’s job to look out for Sprint. Sprint needs to do what they need to stay competitive.

        • Hector Arteaga

          I never said that. Reread my comment. Where did I mention it is someone’s job to look out for Sprint? I said it is something he shouldn’t look forward to. Big difference.

        • Baxter DeBerry

          AT&T is buying Verizon?!??!?! what planet are you from

        • Hector Arteaga

          I’m sure it was a typo. Reread it and you will see what he meant.

        • Baxter DeBerry

          lol I know just wanted to bug the person about it

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          It was a big typo. Thanks for pointing it out.

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          Lmao. Fixed. Meant DirecTV.

          If that were true, I’d sh*t my pants! Haha

          What a scary thought. o.O

        • Jay J. Blanco

          Lol major typo

        • UMA_Fan

          Never mind Vodafone but Verizon just bought aol as well so highly unlikely

  • VG

    A Dish/T-Mobile merger would allow them to bundle services (TV, home phone, home internet access, & cellular) much like AT&T (U-Verse) and Verizon (FiOS) currently do. This would ultimately lead to Sprint’s demise as a standalone cellular company. Good or bad for the consumer? Hard to say.

    • UMA_Fan

      But that’s the fee market indirectly demise Sprint so it’s fair game

  • hmz04

    Dish business is based on hit and run. It’s one of the most hated companies. The TM should walk away. Google should just buy the TM since they’re getting into a wireless tech.

    • Oms

      I would have said the same of T-Mobile 3 years ago. T-Mobile had the worse contracts and service. Now they have turned around completely. If they were to merge, I hope Dish would also shake up to become a better company.

      • KlausWillSeeYouNow

        It’s already a great company. That’s why there are so many haters. They don’t even realize trashing virtually the only competitive entity and innovative force in the TV market hurts everyone – even them.

        • Oms

          I think the biggest reason people hate Dish is because of the deceptive contracts. I hope they would become more like the current T-Mobile with getting rid of contracts and having more competitive, transparent, up-front pricing.

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          What’s so deceptive, though? I’m in a contract with Dish and I don’t feel deceived. It’s not like the wireless industry where contracts are a scam – what good would an EIP for a Hopper do? Nobody but Dish is selling them! Lol!

          Plus, we know what the MSRP for satellite equipment is anyway.

        • Ordeith

          Dish has two year contracts where only the first year is at a promotional rate and the second year is at a grossly inflated rate, and they make it difficult to tell what the real rate will be for months 24-48. They aren’t up front about it at all with their customers, and have been in trouble with Government regulators for the practice.

        • Oms

          Bait and switch, where you sign a two year commitment, starting at $19.99/month but then your rates will go up on your first year. It’s probably legal but deceptive to people that don’t read the fine print.

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          Oh please. That is NOT bait and switch. I had no problems understanding the terms of my contract and knowing what the rates would be after the first year. It’s called reading a contract. Just because people don’t read it doesn’t make it deceptive.

        • Oms

          I could agree with you to a certain extent but it’s still bait to switch people. They need to have more upfront transparent pricing to achieve a high level of loyalty. Otherwise, they will continue having a high churn rate.

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          The churn at Dish isn’t usually mainly because of contracts, though. It’s because people get pissed off about carriage disputes… which is another whole discussion. ;-)

          It’s too bad some people aren’t that informed.

        • Oms

          Well, it will be nice to have more transparency. The average Joe does not like reading hidden clauses in the fine print nor get bill shock after one year.

          Here’s an idea to disrupt the TV market. It would be really nice to have simple a la carte programming options. The average person watches only a dozen channels and yet they are forced to buy a package for hundreds of channels they don’t want, only to have access to the few overlapping channels. What if you only pay for what you want and not bundles of junk?

        • Ryanide

          Dish used to have a la carte options about 12-15 years ago. It only cost $1.50 per Channel and you could pick 10 of them for a $15 a month fee. It was popular and economical. Guess they did away with it because nobody wanted the home shopping networks, so they force it down our throats now.
          Wish they’d bring the “Pick 10” option back, even at $2.00 per channel.

          Hell, even the “America Everything” pack included every channel including all the premiums was $79.99 a month only a decade ago. Now it’s gone up nearly double? Greedy!

        • 9to5Slavery

          It’s not greedy. it’s called inflation. learn how the economy works. Soon everything is going to be expensive and everyone think they deserve everything rather than work smarter not harder type of ordeal.

        • Ordeith

          With LA’s recent passage of a $15 minimum wage the poor souls that live there are about to see inflation on a scale previously unheard of.
          I don’t know why they do it to themselves.

        • Oms

          Exactly I feel like you are forced to subsize nonprofitable channels just to watch the few channels you like. If I had the choice I wouldn’t pay for the HSN, televangelists, golf, and kids, channels.

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          That’s the people’s fault. Never sign a contract you didn’t read.

        • NinoBr0wn

          Comcast has a lot of “haters” too.

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          Except they deserve them. Unlike Comcast, Dish is not a monopolizing force that doesn’t give two sh*ts about its customers.

        • Stone Cold

          They are still ranked as one of the worst employers in Denver. We knew this was a matter of time waiting to see if it gets approved.

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          It’s because of the corporate culture, but coming from a background where my employers demand consistent performance, I don’t find that problematic. There are other places to work in Denver besides Dish, I’m sure.

        • Stone Cold

          For sure there is.

        • Stone Cold

          You are right but the perception is what hurts them

    • KlausWillSeeYouNow

      No, Google should work on making the Play Store search better, and not enter the wireless market outside of Fi.

      • Jason Crumbley

        How much are you being paid for these responses, and who is paying you?

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          For every 5 responses, I buy myself a Dunkachino at DD. I’m self-employed. Jk.

    • AussieB

      Never heard a single good thing about Dish

      • jm62

        I’ve had dish since the time they were hitting their 1 millionth subscriber, and had nothing but positive experiences with them. Their Hopper DVR system is amazing.

        • AS118

          The hopper’s great. It’s incredibly forward-thinking, and has stuff like bluetooth connectivity and on-demand streaming and 2tb of storage and such.

          Other than that, I have noticed they have fewer HD channels than DirecTV.

    • MTN

      But Dish with Legere behind the wheel? Say “Hello” to UnCable!

  • Aurizen

    Fine… I’m on board with this merger… Dish has deep pockets and lots of unused spectrum… T=Mobile will be a strong number 3. And John Legere will run both shows, he’ll have a lot on his plate haha. Though i would like it if Google buys T-Mobile or merge.

    • Justin Smith

      They don’t really have that deep of pockets… They make a couple billion extra so I wouldn’t say deep like Verizon or AT&T

      • Aurizen

        Well true they did spend a nice lump on the last spectrum auction about 18 billion? T-Mobile spent like 1billion. But still Dish is stocked up on Spectrum.. Would be good for T-Mobile and John could rebrand DIsh… maybe adopt fiber and sell off the satalite or something. just a though… an expensive one at that.

        • Justin Smith

          Dish spent 10 Billion, AT&T spent 18.2 Billion. Dish also raised a lot of debt for that auction

  • Jay J. Blanco

    I see a lot of people are for Verizon or AT&T to buy or merge with Dish. Can we all take a moment to realize t-mobile is fighting for it life if they don’t get this deal t-mobile will be spectrum scrapped as the new customers acuqsations is bogging the network and of course t-mobile needs Dish spectrum to stay competitive. And the financial resources is a plus for the 600mhz spectrum.

    • eAbyss

      No worries. Verizon is saddled with debt and has shown little interest in Dish and AT&T is working on a DirectTV deal (if it goes through then complete consolidation in the satellite TV industry via the purchase of Dish won’t be allowed and if it fails then there’s no reason for a Dish deal to go through instead). That leaves Sprint and T-Mobile. Sprint is in debt, their network is far behind it’s competitors, and they’ve shown little interest in a merger while T-Mobile’s network is in better shape and has been showing interest in working with Dish and vice versa.

      • Jay J. Blanco

        Kudos. Verizon worries is maintaining they’re network and gouging money

    • dtam

      not just the added financial resources…you also join forces with probably your biggest competitor for the reserved bandwidth that big red and death star can’t bid for. it’ll be T-Dish vs Sprint vs Regional Carriers vs Spectrum holders. I like those odds

      • Jay J. Blanco

        awesome yes awesome t-dish will become so much larger and competitive

  • DISH SUCKS

    The FCC is still investigating DISH’s wireless auction practices. Dumb ass DISH might still have to pay over 3 billion more for their wireless bids. If Ergen wants to cheat the tax payer by saying they are a small business, why is DISH trying to aquire T-Mobile? DISH should not get any discounts for all I know. DISH’s wireless bids at the FCC auction are not justified and are still pending. Now they want T-mobile? WTF?

    • Ride or die

      Yes, they are investigating the way they bought the spectrum, Ergen has said if they make them pay the 3 billion it won’t matter(read in article) but believes their buying tactic still legal. Back story on the spectrum auction, The FCC was originally just looking for jusy 10.6 Billion in total from the auction. Dish alone with the 3 billion discount spent 13.3 billion in the auction and drove the prices up on a lot of the other areas they lost bringing the total auctioned value was 44.9. now subtracting the 3 billion in discounts the FCC walks with 41.9 billion, 31.3 billion more then the FCC had originally budgeted for.

      • DISH SUCKS

        The point I was making is if DISH doesn’t get the discount, then DISH will pay more then they orginaly thought for the spectrum auction and DISH now wants to purchase T-mobile. How much debt is DISH going to be in to fund the transaction of T-mobile? DISH does not have deep pockets. How will T-mobile’s network upgrade be funded? How will DISH fund next year’s auction? The bottom line a partnership makes more sense then a takeover. What’s next, Comcast counters the offer of DISH “IF” DISH gets to an agreement with DT? I think Ergen full of it!

        • DStudio

          My guess is they wouldn’t be talking if they didn’t have the means. But clearly neither of us has the numbers here.

    • DStudio

      Funny how you say that – “cheat the tax payer.” The tax payer is the same as the bill payer.

      Of course, with this utility, you actually have a choice among 4 or more carriers. So if you’re not a T-Mobile or Dish customer, you may not be the one personally paying. But the consumer will pay, one way or another.

      Naturally, I know it matters a lot how the money is funneled, and whether it goes through the more efficient bureaucracy. And people spend their lives trying to ensure it gets funneled their way. Also, it matters what each individual tax payer pays. But as a group, I’m not sure “the tax payer” can be cheated, regardless of which way the ruling goes.

      • DISH SUCKS

        DISH can fund the feds a bit better wthout a discounted price of course. They need to play by the rules.

  • keasycase

    Does my of dish’s spectrum line up with t-mo… Or will t-mobile have to get phones manufactures… To add the support for dish spectrum

    • UMA_Fan

      No new phones will be needed all over again

      • frankinnoho

        Most new phones have programmable radios, so maybe not. And unlike most upgrade scenarios, they would want as many customers as possible onboard as quickly as possible, so it would likely be the fastest set of upgrades in cellular history.

        • DStudio

          T-Mobile always needs fast upgrades – and they usually carry it off pretty well.

        • eAbyss

          Bands require hardware support. You can’t just add band support with a patch unless the hardware supported it in the first place. All these patches you see adding band support are only turning on in software what was already there in hardware.

        • frankinnoho

          What are the band’s of which you speak? They are little more then mental constructs, lines between which the various carriers are instructed to limit their operations, or else.
          Radios are not tuned to a band. They tune a range of frequencies within a set range, regardless of “band” definitions. Modern cellular radios can tune any frequency between about 700 mhz and 2500 mhz.
          Witness phones currently on the market being able to use “band” 12 after a software upgrade. By your rather clumsy definition of “band”, this is impossible, yet it’s been done. Explain that!

  • UMA_Fan

    Anyone know how much 700mhz Dish owns, where, and if it’s compatible with existing devices?

    • Mike Palomba

      I don’t believe Dish owns any 700mhz spectrum, but I could be wrong

      • Hector Arteaga

        They do, but very little.

    • Jay J. Blanco

      6mhz of E block I believe

      • Sushimane

        What’s the difference between the blocks?

        • Jay J. Blanco

          Usually means different band. A block = band 12
          C Block = 17 etc etc

        • Sushimane

          Is band 12 A block the better block to have? Is my question

        • Jay J. Blanco

          Yeah its just as good to have. All 700mhz is the same pretty much

        • eAbyss

          There are meaningful differences between the blocks. See my post above.

        • eAbyss

          The lower B and C blocks are preferred because of their lower frequencies and lack of interference from television broadcasts with A block bringing up a close second now with channel 51 broadcasts moving to lower frequencies.

        • eAbyss

          You got it all wrong. Blocks don’t equal bands, bands are split into blocks. See my post above.

        • Jay J. Blanco

          Oh yeah lol I forgot for interference purposes right?

        • eAbyss

          First you have the bands which cover a large swath of spectrum (in the case of band 12, nearly the entire 698-806Mhz), then bands are split into blocks. The setup is different from band to band but band 12 has lower blocks A-E and upper blocks A-D. The lower blocks A-C are the best blocks out of the band with a total of 12Mhz of paired spectrum (paired spectrum is preferred because it has an upload frequency paired with a download frequency; unpaired spectrum can only be used for uploads or downloads which makes it virtually useless to a carrier without a corisponding unpaired block or without carrier aggregation) each while lower blocks D and E consist of 6Mhz of unpaired spectrum each. The upper blocks, which are in the upper half of the band, consist of blocks A and B which are a total of 2Mhz of paired spectrum each, making them useless, block C consisting of 22Mhz of paired spectrum, and block D consisting of a total of 10Mhz of paired spectrum.

          T-Mobile is trying to buy up all the lower A blocks it can, AT&T owns most of the lower B and C blocks, Qualcomm owns most of the lower D blocks, EchoStar owns most of the lower E blocks, and Verizon owns most of the upper C and D blocks.

      • eAbyss

        EchoStar owns almost all of the E block licenses.

  • Vontae Everton

    Anyone knows how would T-Mobile map would increase I saw that dish owns 60 billion worth of spectrum

    • eAbyss

      It’s estimated at $39 billion.

  • donnybee

    “..rarely-wrong publication”

    hahaha this made me laugh for real..

    But anyway, I hope this doesn’t go through. I get Dish has deep pockets and really wants to enter the market, and even has spectrum we could use.. But it’s Dish Network. Does anybody like Dish Network? They’re one of the lowest customer satisfaction ratings of a communications company.. They would drag down the hip image T-Mobile is looking to keep up. Plus, their business model is based around contracts and sneaking people into them. Isn’t that exactly opposite of what T-Mobile wants?

    They think spectrum is more important than losing their values if they really go into this deal. I would have wanted Sprint over Dish.

    • Jessica

      Yes its going through. John Legere will be running both companies. So therefore you should not have anything else more to worry about.

    • Jessica

      They did mention about the CEO for Dish Network will be stepping down as chairman, and allowing John Legere to step up as the man incharge as CEO for both Dish Network/T-Mobile. You must have misread that part whenever reading such article about the Dish/T-Mobile merger bound to happen soon once the transaction does go through.

      • archerian

        Chairman, founder and major shareholder with even bigger voting rights trumps CEO. The CEO reports to the board. Remember what JL said when the DT chairman stated T-Mobile wouldn’t be able to survive on it’s own? In spite of the fact JL having always denied this and spoken to the contrary, he came to the DT Buffoon’s defence.

        • Jessica

          This will be a reversed takeover I bet you. I also bet that once John Legere becomes CEO of the whole two combined companies. He is not only going to be CEO he is also going to become chairman. So therefore chances are he will have the say so on how things will go down for the two combined companies.

        • Jessica

          Hey didn’t you not reas where it sais that John Legere will become both CEO/Chairman, while Charlie will only remain as being Chairman?

        • archerian

          “only remain as Chairman” LOL … he still would have significant voting rights … one company cannot have two active Chairmen, they can have co-CEOs

      • donnybee

        CEO doesn’t mean “the guy calling all the shots”. He’d still be at the mercy of the board. Honestly, you can’t sit there and tell me that everything will be okay based on a rumor. Looking at the facts – T-Mobile is gaining the public’s favorable opinion. Dish is still in the very low end of the public’s opinion. Very few prefer Dish, and even fewer are content with their business practices.

        So from the outside, knowing the facts, this would be a bad thing for T-Mobile. A rumor stating that John would be CEO is just as founded as me saying John wouldn’t be CEO. And even with that title you have to understand that there are chances he won’t be able to call all the shots. Saying this will surely be okay based purely on a hope doesn’t make much sense.

  • FILA

    Can you imagine John showing off a new deal, with the T-Mobile unlimited plans you will also get the basic package of Sling TV for free! T would gain so many more customers

    • Hector Arteaga

      I believe it would make more sense to make it an added option like Rhapsody.

  • frankinnoho

    Imagine this…

    The UPS guy comes up to your door and brings you your new Dish
    set top box. It’s part Tivo, part Roku, part Sling Box, and it’s enclosure is a
    fractal HDTV antenna. You get out the quick set up guide.

    STEP 1. Plug power cord into wall outlet.

    STEP 2. Connect the HDMI cable to your TV.

    STEP 3. Press power button on front of set top box.

    Nothing unusual so far. Finally…

    STEP 4. Tap your T-Mobile cell phone to the NFC area on top
    of set top box.

    Viola! Welcome to the world of Cord Cutting Delux!!!

  • gmo8492

    Side note: It’s John Leger’s birthday today, and his birthday cake is just hilarious.

  • Irfan

    what ? Dish Network cheap network broast 1/4 or higher ratio all of its channels which mean HD but way worse quality then others broadcaster in the world . i was shocked when i saw HD in real HD in UK and here Dish network.
    and really don’t understand why dish bough spectrum …
    what is wrong with T-Mobile working find moving better strong to stronger why they need more .
    we need 5th broadcaster in American instead of these marges

    • Jessica

      Jealousy I see. lol Anyways, John Legere will be incharge of both Dish Network/T-Mobile once the transaction gets finalized by the FCC/DOJ people. No need to stress out too too much about it, due to Charlie going to be stepping right on down as becoming Chairman, while John Legere of T-Mobile will then become the brand new CEO of both Dish/T-Mobile. They both agreed that Charlie will allow John Legere to become CEO of the combined combination. So therefore everything will be just fine with the whole merge combination. Think of it this way, Un-Contract or Un-DishCable.

      • DISH SUCKS

        Charles Ergen is not stepping down. He will remain chairman of both DISH and T-mobile, get your facts straight. JL will be CEO of both companies, right. Mr. Ergen will still have the final word. There is something to worry about.

        • Jessica

          No you are wrong again buddy. Charlie has no say so at all due to John Legere becoming the CEO of both companies buddy. No how about you get your facts straight on what you know as true facts. Once John Legere became CEO of T-Mobile everything changed for the better. So overall I am right and you my friend are totally wrong. Nope so sorry to have busted your bubble on this one here, but Dish will not be chairman of both companies, due to him agreeing that John Legere will be the one to be taking over as CEO running the whole show on both T-MOBILE/Dish. Please go sit down my friend and stop making me so uncomfortable.

        • Jessica

          becomes* not became. whoops typo. lol

        • Charmed79

          Here I will help you out, just Google! “Dish CEO Charlie Ergen would become the combined company’s Chairman, while T-Mobile CEO John Legere would serve as CEO of the joined businesses.” That means the Charlie will in fact own the companies and get the last word, not sure if you understand how businesses work??

        • DISH SUCKS

          Do you know the difference between CEO and Chairman? Charles Ergen started DISH, it’s his company. Ergen calls the shots. Ergen has agreed to allow John Legere become CEO of both T-MOBILE and DISH which is correct missy. John Legere will not own both companies, he will simply run operations. Ergen will own both companies and John Legere will report to Ergen at the end of all this nonsense. Show me the facts moron!

        • Jessica

          Liar Liar. All lies John Legere will chaneverything around for the better. No need to call me names. Get your facts straight buddy. John Legere will redo Dish/Tmobile in the reversed takeover buddy. Bye.

        • DISH SUCKS

          Speak english missy, your language is a bit off. Are you ok or is your ignorance getting in the way of the truth?

        • Jessica

          No my English is perfectly fine my Dear buddy. It is you that is a jealous hater of Dish Network. John Legere will turn things around for Dish, just like he did with T-Mobile. No need to throw shade on Dish. It will be the new Un-Dish. No more name calling please. This merger is going to happen whether you like it or not.

        • Jessica

          change* mistypo big deal.

        • Jessica

          Hey for the record John Legere is going to become both CEO/Chairman of both companies, while Charlie steps down as becoming Chairman?

        • donnybee

          OMG we get it. The rumor states JL will be the CEO. Does that mean he has all the power?

          Business 101. The answer is no.

          You may have a love affair with Dish and probably grin everytime you think of a merger, but honestly, you and everyone who actually thinks favorably of Dish Network is in the minority. It’s the business philosophy and practices that has us all worried. I would not be okay with this unless Ergen disappeared entirely. Him being a major chairman would be problematic, not candy and rainbows.

          Also, please stop talking as if this is all factual or that you somehow have solid ground to speak from. This is a rumor..as is every acquisition/merger/buyout story that you read.

        • Jessica

          No you are wrong again buddy. No you stop talking. This right here is factual. So what is it to you to make me stop? No you cannot make me stop. John Legere is going to be Chairman/CEO. So yes this right here means that John Legere will have more of a great power over Both companies, while Charlie stoops down as becoming Chairman. Go away and be quiet dude. Your mouth smells. Bye.

        • donnybee

          I never said stop talking, I said stop talking as if this is factual. Honestly, your lack of knowledge on the state of Dish’s public image and ratings, about how publicly traded companies operate, and the difference between a rumor and a fact really have shown what your comments are worth. If anyone here were to take you seriously at this point, they’d be pretty stupid.

        • Jessica

          That is what I just said silly goose. lol. Gosh learn to read. You have some reading comprehension problems there buddy. Everyone will take me seriously once this right here gets shown that I was actually telling you guys the truth. Dude I did say factual. You did not read that part? Wow you smell bad. lol Come on dude learn to read a little bit more carefully. Stop running your mouth already. This merger is going to happen. No other carrier or company wants T-Mobile. So therefore Dish will be the answer. I have faith and proof that this will go throw just just fine with no issues to be worried about.

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          It wouldn’t be problematic at all, and I can assure you that she isn’t the only one who thinks favorably of Dish.

          Love it or leave. Dish is the future of T-Mobile. And luckily, that is a good, good thing. They have the spectrum and expertise to keep T-Mobile great, and I for one want to see a bigger, better Uncarrier.

        • Mike

          Are you a idiot Charles will not step down as the chairman of the company he owns. John Legere isn’t even the chairman of T-Mobile. So how in the heck will he become chairman of both companies?

        • Jonathan

          Are you smoking something? Name calling is not a must silly. Get it right homeboy. They discussed that Charlie would be stepping down as becoming Chairman, while John Legere becomes CEO/Chairman of the combined companies. Get it right and start learning how to read properly. Understood? Go wash yourself off please.

        • Jessica

          How is he not stepping down, when he agreed with John Legere that he will step down as becoming Chairman?? How do you even make sense ever dude? Learn to understand things a little bit more clearer verses having to over assume things. Wow. Again you are wrong. Reread the article once more buddy.

  • k

    I just want coverage and maintain my unlimited data. If DISH helps on both accounts, which theoretically should, then Im down. My only wish was that DISH had NFL like DirectTV. I have DirecTV because of NFL and Rugby. That’s it. Im not fond of the idea of the DeathStar owning DirecTV, but its up to the NFL. COME ON ROGER GODDELL! YOU AND JOHN LEGER AND CHARLIE COULD TAKE OVER THE UNITED STATES!!!

  • Oh ho

    “like like”? can’t you proofread?

    • Cam Bunton

      Admittedly, I do find it difficult the minute I wake up with a horrible fever and migraine. My mind was a little more cloudy than usual. But I’ll fix it now. Just for you.

      • Stone Cold

        Suffer from them myself hope you are feeling better. They suck.

      • SorryFeelBetter

        Never had a fever because of a migraine. Must have something else too?

        • Cam Bunton

          No, I stupidly pushed myself too hard at soccer the night before was dehydrated and my muscles were burning up a little after 4 days exercise on the bounce. Not my smartest move. So, I had migraine because of the dehydration.

  • Pink & Kangaroo?

    This is by far the worst news I’ve heard since the NSA and Wikileaks controversy.

  • bryck

    Why is everybody acting surprised? this is predictable news. There have been rumors about the potential merger for the past year and a half or so. this deal makes sense. DirecTV is hooking up with AT&T, so why wouldn’t Dish follow.

    • donnybee

      I would’ve rather had DTV than Dish in these rumors TBH.. I’m sick of rumor stories anyway

      • Jessica

        Be quiet dude. You are a hater. Bye. Dish will be different once John Legere takes over as being both CEO/Chairman. Just trust me get your facts straight. This will happen whether if you like it or not.

      • Mike

        DTV doesn’t have wireless spectrum like Dish so it wouldn’t benefit T-Mobile.

  • AnthonyRyan89

    How would this be bad if John Legere remained CEO, but what’s so bad with Dish Network btw.

    • Jessica

      John Legere will be running the show as CEO/Chairman, while Charlie of Dish will step right on down to becoming Chairman. So no worries with that part my Dear friend.

      • AnthonyRyan89

        Yeah I know that but what do people have against Dish Network

        • Jessica

          Thats what I’m saying. No complaints really. Hehe. Dish will win this battle.

        • donnybee

          And right there your knowledge on the subject matter goes out the window.

        • Jessica

          Come and bring it. We will see what happens. This merger will happen. I am so sorry to tell you this, but this will be great for consumers like us. John Legere running both CEO/Chairman will make Dish Un-Contract/Un-Dish.

        • AnthonyRyan89

          What’s the worst thing that would happen if it went bad ?

        • Jessica

          Hey we will see what happens my friend. This will turn out awesome. I have faith it will turn awesomes.

        • AngryBadger

          That would be so darn funny. Could we get the kangaroos in on this? I imagine some pretty hilarious commercials. But I hear you, Dish seems to compete in the tv space, especially with sling. Imagine getting competitive spirit on tv with t-mobile’s cellular wireless angle.

          As long as nothing against the TMO norm pops up… I’m for it. (I understand change can be difficult/worrisome for some folks).

      • Duces are Wild

        Your as ignorant as they come.

      • Duces are Wild

        You need to quit trolling for Douche Network “buddy”

  • vinnyjr

    As long as John Legere thinks this is good for T-Mobile and it’s very loyal customers I’m all for it. I trust John Legere. This guy has proved his worth and his decisions have been fantastic for T-Mobile. Just a short time ago T-Mobile was counted out, today they are the talk of the Mobile Industry. Because of John Legere the Mobile Industry is much better for everyone on all Carriers. Can you imagine slingbox on T-Mobile, that would be great.

  • donnybee

    There’s a troll in our midst..

    • thepanttherlady

      Yep. I suspected the same trash I took out yesterday got dragged back in today. I gave him/her the benefit of the doubt until I saw the responses. Same person.

  • wsj

    I hope not. Bad news. TMOUSA should just keep working at what they are doing and convince the DT Board for more time.

    • Jonathan

      I hope it happens. Hey we will see what happens. If they merge John will help change the company around, trust me.

      • Mike

        Dish wouldn’t let John have the final say so.

        • Jonathan

          Yes Dish would. Wow. Delusional. Ha. Yes John will have the say so in the company.

        • Jonathan

          You know what Mike you are absolutely right about all of that right there my friend. Someone was so kind enough to have been able to break it all down well enough for me to understand that John Legere would still have to go through the Chairman of boards for the final say so on what changes shall happen within companies itself. So I do apologize for misunderstanding it all wrong. Can you please forgive me Sir? Thank you.

        • Duces are Wild

          No he wouldn’t.

    • Kogashuko

      They arnt doing anything. They keep posting all of this propaganda about expansion and service improvements but the entire time I was with Tmobile I saw ZERO improvement. In fact the roaming coverage got smaller and the same areas with 2g stayed 2g. At this point honestly I hope they just fail and go away. Let it be a lesson to all the other carriers that if you go forth and preach net neutrality and change that you don’t go silently behind everyone’s back and add a data cap, do cramming, and make zero expansion to your network the consumers will bury you!

      • PMB01

        None of that is remotely true. How much is Verizon paying you to post this crap?

        • Kogashuko

          I was with Mobile this time for a year and a half and it is very true. I switched to AT&T and the coverage is night and day for the same price. I am also glad the FCC stepped up and fined someone for the data issues with unlimited data. I just wished they would hit TMobile too because they still offer unlimited plans unlike AT&T and see nothing wrong with throttling subscribers. I am not saying a 100mil fine would end them but it might encourage them to better their network instead of punishing customers for their inadequate service.

        • PMB01

          Nope, not even. I am currently with T-Mobile and have zero issues with coverage all over Central and Southern California. They absolutely don’t deserve to be fined because they are very clear about the limits. T-Mobile doesn’t have grandfathered unlimited data customers (because they still sell unlimited data), which is why AT&T is having to pay up. T-Mobile is leading the wireless industry and the other three are playing catch up. Yes, their coverage isn’t like Verizon’s, but they’ve pledged to basically match Verizon’s LTE footprint by the end of the year. And T-Mobile hasn’t yet failed to live up to its promises.

          And no, T-Mobile is most definitely cheaper than AT&T (especially cheaper than Verizon). And AT&T can’t give you what most people want: unlimited data. Oh, and T-Mobile just made the tethering add-on unlimited (with throttling after you hit your limit, 7GB for me). I’m waiting for the inevitable announcement from AT&T and Sprint that they’ve added that as well.

  • Bordelais

    5+ year cord cutter here. I love the idea of t-Mobile having access to Dish’s unused spectrum. And the deeper pockets to help with the 600 auction seems interesting.

    The only interest I have in Dish’s services is an on-demand streaming service **commercial free** (Netflix model). I’d be willing to give up my Netflix account and add a video streaming service to a TMO/Dish family plan, but $15 is my limit. Non of this expensive packaging and 2-year service contact crap. Frankly, I’m done with that. The TV content delivery market needs to adapt and change to something next-gen. Maybe T-Mobile could make that happen and lead with new ideas.

    I would love to have access to International TV programing (France, Spain, Portugual/Brazil). International programing a la cart seems to be Dish’s expertise, but is is really expensive. I use to have TV5 ($9.95) and TVGlobo ($19.95), but they were just too expensive to maintain.

    • Mike

      Dish owns Sling TV so I can see Dish and T-Mobile offering it as a bundle .

      • ronjon400

        i have the KODI bundle

  • Joe Knows Trolls

    Dish has a PR intern trolling the discussion. Bless your heart!

  • Jamie

    This is great news for T-Mobile because they can really compete with all that unused spectrum. This is exactly what T-Mobile needs! Keep doing what your doing T-Mobile. Can’t wait to see the coverage of this deal goes down.

  • camguy1975

    Let’s just hope T-mobile isn’t getting played by Dish. Dish may really be angling to be sold to VZW, and these kinds of rumors may spook big Red to buy Dish to prevent T-mobile from getting all that spectrum.

    • Jonathan

      That rumor could be a lie. Verizon is already buying AOL. So such rumor could be a lie just to scare people from getting needed spectrum from Dish.

    • Duces are Wild

      It’s possible. Charles Ergen is the antichrist.

    • Kogashuko

      F*** T-Mobile. They had the same chances as everyone else to bid on spectrum in AWS. Instead they went there and were pathetic biding the lowest of all the nation wide carriers to include dish that doesn’t even have a network. I am glad they didn’t win more because they would do what they do now and only build out in populated areas and screw the people outside the cities. They have had the chance to purchase an almost nationwide 700a block license from multiple people that are obviously selling and they go and spend money on AWS-3. I switched to AT&T this week and my phone work great in our house and the plan is actually cheaper. Not to mention Tmobile transferred me around for an hour and refused to give me my account number to do the port! I hope the Dish merger is blocked and they go bankrupt within a year. They are rolling in cash from these extra subscribers but are doing absolutely nothing to improve their network!

      • Jonathan

        Ahhh that sucks dude. We will see what happens. I do agree that AT&T covers so much more people than T-Mobile would have ever dreamed to have covered. I’d rather go with AT&T, but unfortunately I’m not financially stable enough to ever go back to using AT&T. Well at least T-Mobile meets way more of my special everyday needs than Sprint would have ever dreamed to have done for me. So therefore no complaints. I applaud AT&T for getting over to where they really needed to be at all of this time now. Yays to AT&T. I still got love for T-Mobile just like I have love for AT&T.

        • Kogashuko

          Yeh I came to Tmobile from sprint and gave up coverage for reliability. However, I have seen recently where I could get an AT&T plan cheaper than Tmobile. I just brought my phone over. I like what Tmobile is doing and challenging the industry but I am afraid that is done. They have essentially a 1700-2100 MHz network with very few 700 MHz markets. They are going to pedal their higher speeds when there was very few subscribers along with their spotty 700a, and un- agenda. In reality they are gimped spectrum wise and refuse to make any major change to improve it. Instead they use their huge consumer crowd as a cash crop that they can cash out. I had suncom here in 2001-2002 and the coverage area of Tmobile is literally the same still today. Sure they have plugged in 3g and lte here and there but in large it is still the same footprint as 2002!!!! In fact I am using some of the same G networks that were around then. I am able to now get ATT cheaper and it is more reliable. Tmobile does not work here without WIFI calling and it is still jacked up with an A+ line test and 126/25 connection. I got a call out on my personal phone last night that not even my Verizon work phone got just because ATT decided to put 2 towers within a mile from my house and 4 within 3 when Tmobile had one at around 3 miles. Not to mention the only Verizon towers within 2 miles here are LTE only without VoLTE. You do the math!

        • PMB01

          It sucks you’re in a bad area. T-Mobile’s LTE coverage will nearly match Verizon by the end of the year. I already get excellent coverage on T-Mobile everywhere I go in California. The network is MUCH better than it was in 2002 (from what I’ve heard from longtime customers. I switched from Verizon last year).

      • Durandal_1707

        F*** T-Mobile. They had the same chances as everyone else to bid on spectrum in AWS. Instead they went there and were pathetic biding the lowest of all the nation wide carriers to include dish that doesn’t even have a network.

        T-Mobile didn’t bid big in the AWS-3 auction because they already have a lot of AWS spectrum, and because they need to save the money for the 600 MHz auction, which they need far more than AWS-3.

        I am glad they didn’t win more because they would do what they do now and only build out in populated areas and screw the people outside the cities.

        Building out in populated areas is what AWS is good for. AWS isn’t good for rural areas.

        They have had the chance to purchase an almost nationwide 700a block license from multiple people that are obviously selling and they go and spend money on AWS-3.

        1. There are huge swaths of 700 A-block which are owned by US Cellular, which is not selling. These areas include a lot of the rural Midwest, which is where 700-A is needed the most. So the available 700-A is far from nationwide.

        2. T-Mobile has been buying up 700-A that is for sale, and of the spectrum they haven’t bought yet, it’s still up for grabs, so they could still buy it at any time.

        3. Wait, I thought you were complaining that T-Mobile didn’t buy enough AWS-3 spectrum?

      • steven berson

        You can hate on T-mobile as much as you want. Remember you will be paying a lot less with ATT because of T-mobile. Honestly no company is perfect. Im in S.FL and i get amazing service much better then with sprint or att.

  • HeatFan786

    So DT just wants to leave something that is constantly growing? I wouldn’t sell TMO.

    • Jay J. Blanco

      DT isnt selling its a merger meaning DT will likely have a majority stake

      • gmo8492

        I think Bloomberg said a few days ago that DT thinks Dish stock is overvalued. DT would rather have more of a cash transaction and less stock if a deal were to be reached.

        • Jay J. Blanco

          Of course they are gonna reduce stock in the combined entity they want to foucs esle ware

        • gmo8492

          Well they would be less likely to have a majority stake in the combined company then. This deal has been on and off again for the past 3 years.

    • KlausWillSeeYouNow

      I hope DT gets out of here.

      • Brian the populist.

        I agree dt is holding tmus back with all this merge nonsense.

  • Douche Network

    All this merger crap is pathetic.

    • Jonathan

      T-Mobile can still survive on its own under a brand new name perhaps or have someone else partner up with it. If Dish does not make these deal, well then lets check into Comcast for partnership, at least that part.

      • Jonathan

        this* whoops mistypo there buddy. sorry.

      • KlausWillSeeYouNow

        Go away. Forever. Comcast is unfit even to be mentioned in the same sentence as T-Mobile.

        There’s already one carrier that screws its customers and has a partnership with Comcast, and it’s called Verizon Wireless. Go there if you want that.

        • Jonathan

          Hey you are absolutely right. And chances are Verizon Wireless won’t be able to buyout Dish Network, am I correct on that part or what? Plus Verizon is already in the process with buying AOL. Do you believe that Dish will allow Verizon yo buy them out? Do you believe Dish will go through with its purchase at buying T-Mobile? What is your take on it?

  • Jonathan

    So sorry to burst everyones bubble, but Verizon Wireless has stated that they are in no way shape of form going to be purchasing Dish Network. Heres why:
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/verizon-ceo-sees-no-need-to-buy-dish-network-1405015665

  • Philip

    I just read somewhere. Somebody at T-mobile is not interested in the merge with Dish. Its better to merge with Sprint. Go google it.

    • Jonathan

      Just did. But shoot lets hope if anything comes to worst that John Legere would be the one to be running to show, verses having Maurcelo Run the show for the combined company. Shoot lets also better not hope that Tmobile merges with Sprint. Sprint is freaking terrible.

      • VernonDozier

        Marci Ryvicker, an analyst at Wells Fargo Securities LLC estimated
        all of Dish’s spectrum portfolio is worth close to $78 billion.

        Now, the 700 MHz licenses that Dish purchased in a 2008 auction are worth about $830 million.

        The kicker is that in the same research note, Marci at Wells Fargo says AWS-4 licenses that the company acquired in 2012 through the
        bankruptcies of satellite communications companies DBSD North America
        Inc. and TerreStar Networks Inc. could be worth $55 billion… Or more than T-Mobile as a company. It seems that T-Mobile didn’t bid at that auction either… :(

    • dtam

      I think I hate Timotheus Höttges. Friggin corporate a-hole that hasn’t been paying attention. “merge with sprint”, yeah no, fcc won’t allow it. “don’t want to sell to dish in case comcast wants to buy tmo”, that would be great for us…sell to the worst company in america

  • steven berson

    If they offer a bundle of phone+tv at a good rate I would sign up in a heart beat! And if Google fiber would come to FL. That would be an awesome combination of a services (100$ 4 lines + 50 tv + 70 fiber = $220)

    Getting sick of getting screwed by ATT & Comcast.

    • Jonathan

      Agreed.