T-Mobile clear to launch 700MHz band 12 LTE in New York City

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On Periscope, last night, John Legere confirmed that New York City should start to see some Band 12 LTE action at long last. As in many markets, one of the big obstructions to getting the 700MHz network live in New York has been TV broadcast channel 51 interference. In the often mentioned map by DanRant from Reddit, the areas affected and blocked by interference are indicated using the red circles (as seen in the screenshot above).

Yesterday, a deal was agreed which would see T-Mo be able to roll out its low-band spectrum in the Big Apple. One of our readers managed to capture the moment and uploaded it to YouTube. You can view that short video clip here. For those sensitive to the F-Word, be warned, he uses it towards the end of the 15-second clip.

Exactly how long it takes to go from this agreement to getting the network activated, I’m not sure. But this a major step to ensuring that T-Mobile’s network better penetrates buildings in New York. So I guess that’s one less thing for Donald Trump to moan about.

Thanks, John and William.

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  • milanyc

    Great news! Now let’s get AT&T to become more responsible with their B block transmission as it’s causing more interference to T-Mobile’s 700MHz A block in NYC than Ch.51.

  • Jeremy Hughes

    I wonder what about the rest of the WNJN circle of exclusion? I’m especially interested in the I-87 corridor from the NJ border up.

  • Joe

    Have you guys noticed that continuum 700 is now split up and called C700-city it covers.

    • Slybacon

      Cool! Where did you find that? Do you think it means they will sell market by market?

      • Joe

        specmap . sequence – omega . n e t remove spaces hopefully it does not get blocked.

    • 700 Club

      How long can Continuum sit on these licences before they have to give them up?

      Is T-Mobile or Continuum the problem in working out a deal?

      Isn’t there a risk for Continuum to hold on to these too long, especially if T-Mobile is any bit successful in the 600mhz auction? Who else would make sense in buying up all the 700a?

      Or is Continuum and the other 700a squatters T-Mobile’s plan B if the 600 auction is an all-out failure?

      • det_b

        AT&T could use it. If they ever go through with the conversion to B12 like they promised 2 years ago.

        • Fabian Cortez

          They (AT&T) are following through with their transition to Band 12 and they absolutely could purchase that spectrum.

          That’s the new wildcard.

        • det_b

          Can’t wait for better device compatibility!

        • Fabian Cortez

          Can’t wait for better device compatibility!

          It’s on the way.

          AT&T gets the best devices in this country, so as they move to adopt Band 12 in their devices, more and more of the latest and greatest phones now become options for T-Mobile subs.

      • Jeff

        From what I remember C700 has until 2019 to “build out”.

        • Joe

          I feel like t-mobile will not get C700’s spectrum :(

    • Guest

      These guys remind me of the people who buy up all the popular christmas toys in hopes to screw a few families when the inventory runs out.

      • Joe

        Yeah it really is pissing me off. I just want to see cavalier’s, “continuum 700”, and AB License, to be in t-mobile’s hands.

        • Raiterio Patterson

          You preaching to the choir! That would make my travels to the places I frequent a hell of a lot better. T-Mobile could definitely buy 700MHz along the Carolina coast for sure

        • Joe

          Yeah I live in the Charlotte area and 700 would sure help with some of the inconsistencies.

        • Raiterio Patterson

          During the 600MHz auction currently scheduled for early 2016 the stations will have three choices: exit the business, share a channel with some other station or relocate to some other free channel. In the first two cases the station must free channel 51 within 3 months after the end of the auction. In the third case (they choose relocation) the FCC will pick new channels for all stations and develop an individual relocation schedule for each station. The relocation will take 6-39 months.

  • Jay J. Blanco

    Awesome. Now start selling more compatible phones

    • Willie D

      They have over 10 models that are Band 12 compatible.

      • Joe

        Yeah like every new phone that they got this year has been band 12 if i’m not mistaken.

        • Jay J. Blanco

          IK that. T-Mobile is still selling 3G phones smh.

        • Joe

          Yeah that is true and it’s kinda ridiculous. If u buy a phone from T-mobile that is not LTE band 2 and 4 compatible than you will not have a good experience on the network.

        • Jay J. Blanco

          All phones should have band 4 & 2. And nothing less at this point.

        • Joe

          Agreed. And so they don’t get rid of some of the phones that don’t have band 2 they better warn the user that they will not have very good coverage.

        • chrrrtp8

          They really need to get rid of AWS hspa+; refarm to LTE in my opinion it’s no need for it.

        • keasycase

          There is still plenty of places where t-mobile did not shut down metro pc’s yet… That’s y they have not got rid of all the hspa+

        • Willie D

          I think so too. They were quick rolling out LTE 1900 devices when they said they would refarm that, also quick to roll out HSPA 1900 with it. So very quick to roll out LTE Band 12 devices, in fact, all new devices have AWS LTE/HSPA, PCS LTE/HSPA and Band 12 LTE

      • Jay J. Blanco

        That’s laughable

        • Willie D

          How is that laughable? Band 12 is still new to them, not even a year old, and they have 10+ devices. I mean think back when Sprint did WiMAX, they had 6 handsets at any given point. Pretty lame if you ask me. So by comparison T-Mobile is way ahead.

  • Willie D

    In most markets that are pending but close to a resolution date, TMobile has deployed Band 12 equipment already, it just needs to flip the switch.

    • Jess

      Indeed, Cincinnati is one of them, just waiting for WKEF to hurry up and finish the move (any day now I’m hoping)

      • Willie D

        You and I both await, here in SF, I wait for Univision to get the hell off the air.

        • Jess

          Univision is holding up CH 51 in SF? Those folks need to move already! Well if you by any chance see any B12 panels going up that should be an indication that perhaps they are finally getting close. I’ll keep my fingers crossed for y’all and us!

        • Willie D

          I have no idea what panels look like or who’s tower is who’s either. But yes Univision is holding out as long as possible in this area, they are located in San Jose, which isn’t only just a city 50+ miles away, but it is supposed to (at least at one point in the past) be its own television and radio market as well, just so happens they overlap SF-Oakland markets and generally are treated as one megamarket

  • mingkee

    It seems to be a perfect timing with G4 launch.

  • William Burr Winans

    John Legere has also said 700MHz is coming to Phoenix soon!

    • xhrsx13

      When did he say this?

    • Fabian Cortez

      Indeed.

      The few questions are did they purchase all of their licenses or just a select few or just the Phoenix market?

      • William Burr Winans

        To be honest I’m not actually sure because it hasn’t been official it’s just what John Legere said but if I had to guess I’m assuming T-Mobile is currently in progress of buying spectrum from AB License

  • LuvMagenta

    Yaasssssss!!!!! OMFG I’M SO HAPPY!!
    FINALLY!!! In building penetration and coverage in some houses in the suburbs were my only problems. Now the service will truly rival Verizon!

  • dan lol

    What about outside of new York City

    • mingkee

      Long Island has B12 now.

      • Jason Trow

        Besides Riverhead?

    • VernonDozier

      Don’t hold your breath. It’s likely as profitable as installing DAS at hotels, hospitals, and sporting venues.

      • Fabian Cortez

        Don’t hold your breath. It’s likely as profitable as installing DAS at hotels, hospitals, and sporting venues.

        Incorrect. It is actually much more profitable to deploy sub-1 GHz spectrum on their existing cell sites than it is on private property such as “hotels, hospitals, and sporting venues.”

        Also, “hotels” would be an incorrect statement as most hotels are located in areas where cellular service is readily-available. So much so that hotels were busted by the FCC for blocking Wi-Fi hotspot tethering. They blocked hotspots because their patrons found their (the hotels’) Wi-Fi service overpriced and underperforming. So instead of lowering their prices and providing better service, they illegally blocked hotspots.

        As far as hospitals and sports venues, they equally provid Wi-Fi to their patrons as this is customary in 2015 for years now. Wi-Fi calling handles the rest.

        I must ask, is it exhausting misrepresenting the truth? Or do you really believe the nonsense you purport?

        • VernonDozier

          Stayed at a Hotel with T-Mobile Excusive DAS last week. It’s the setup they prefer.

          The problem was that they didn’t know how, or were unable to set the network inside the building to hand off the call to the network outside.

          I’m not going to pay $14.95 per day to connect my iPhone to WiFi because the DAS works… until the call can’t handoff if I go to the pool or golf course outside… And that’s an engineering issue.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Stayed at a Hotel with T-Mobile Excusive DAS last week. It’s the setup they prefer.

          The problem was that they didn’t know how, or were unable to set the network inside the building to hand off the call to the network outside.

          I’m not going to pay $14.95 per day to connect my iPhone to WiFi because the DAS works… until the call can’t handoff if I go to the pool or golf course outside… And that’s an engineering issue.

          Good to know.

          If T-Mobile doesn’t work for you, then it’s probably a good time to switch.

          Cricket might be a good alternative due to your price concerns.

  • Alex Pilaia

    what about the parts of NJ that are in that “blocked red circle”??

    • Justin Smith

      If it’s part of the same red circle new York was under them yes Central NJ will be clear to be deployed

      • Dan Lodi

        I actually talks to t mobile tech support and it confirms it confirms it will be deployed soon

    • Jay Holm

      NYC is referred to as the “market”, but NJ, southern Fairfield County Ct, is also included in the “NYC market”

  • dan lol

    Central new jersey

  • UMA_Fan

    On a semi related note I’m in Universal Studios Orlando now and signal is abysmal.

    I would like an explanation for this from Tmobile. It’s not the old boonies or in building excuse. There isn’t free wifi here. Now I’m guessing it’s a real estate issue. Can’t really see cell towers on the park or anywhere near by so I’m guessing universal wants to gouge carriers for the real estate to have a cell tower on park property.

    • Austin

      I can explain it perfectly fine. One cell tower can’t handle the load of a huge crowd. What’s known as a DAS is needed and Universal probably has an exclusive agreement with Verizon or AT&T for it.

      • archerian

        Maybe T-Mobile should go and beg at the FCC’s door for not only better roaming agreements but access to locations too.

        • Spanky

          My thoughts exactly!

        • Fabian Cortez

          Maybe T-Mobile should go and beg at the FCC’s door for not only better roaming agreements but access to locations too.

          Unnecessary as the FCC doesn’t handle DAS leasing on private property.

        • archerian

          beg, door etc … sarcasm Fabian.

        • VernonDozier

          Well, it seems T-Mobile only wants to focus on marketing and promotions. It can’t seem to improve its coverage itself, but the work still has to be done.

          Sounds like a “Shovel Ready Job” related to “Infrastructure”. Has all the right key words. So, with the help of congress, I don’t think it’s unreasonable that America print money to fix Deutsche Telekom’s network. It’s just too bad Sarah Palin isn’t Vice President.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Well, it seems T-Mobile only wants to focus on marketing and promotions. It can’t seem to improve its coverage itself, but the work still has to be done.

          You have zero evidence that T-Mobile only wants to focus on marketing and promotions. Nor do you have evidence that it cannot improve its coverage itself.

          This very article disproves your statements.

          Sounds like a “Shovel Ready Job” related to “Infrastructure”. Has all the right key words. So, with the help of congress, I don’t think it’s unreasonable that America print money to fix Deutsche Telekom’s network.

          More disinformation.

          The government of the United States of America does not print money to “fix Deutsche Telekom’s network.” The only handout I’ve seen is to the twin bells in the form of 850 MHz.

          Now, I “don’t think it’s unreasonable that America print money” to fix your comprehension issues.

          It’s just too bad Sarah Palin isn’t Vice President.

          No it’s not. We need, at a minimum, borderline sane people in the executive office.

        • Fabian Cortez

          beg, door etc … sarcasm Fabian.

          Sarcasm or not, it was poorly placed due to your lack of understanding of private property with respect to DASs.

        • archerian

          And of course we have you to read all tea leaves from FCC, T-Mobile etc.

        • Fabian Cortez

          And of course we have you to read all tea leaves from FCC, T-Mobile etc.

          There’s nothing here related to the unquantifiable practice of predicting the future or reading tea leaves.

          Deploying DASs on private property, once again, has nothing to do with the FCC. So there’s really no door to knock on other than the property owner.

          The issue is space, not spectrum. This is where capitalism comes into play.

    • Melissa Cardenas

      Here in LA, its the same go to six flags,universal studios,knotts,disneyland which are places that are not in the middle of nowhere tmobile is REAL bad, some places cant even get 1 bar of edge guess they dont have antennas or one of them DAS thing?While At&t n verizon do? cuz they both work real good n even get lte in them places.Only place i didnt mention is raging waters in San dimas there all carriers are BAD i had no service on tmobile ,same with my friend on verizon n mom on att we were all walking around trying to get at least 1 bar to send a txt.

      • Spanky

        I was in Universal Orlando last weekend. I have AT&T and had full LTE. It’s possible that T-Mobile hasn’t expanded their coverage in that area yet.

        • Fabian Cortez

          I was in Universal Orlando last weekend. I have AT&T and had full LTE. It’s possible that T-Mobile hasn’t expanded their coverage in that area yet.

          There is more than one Universal Studios in this country and the fact that you were on AT&T provides you with no experience of T-Mobile’s network in Orlando. T-Mobile’s LTE network in Orlando is solid and has been that way for quite some time.

          On the contrary, I have witnessed a brand new iPhone 6 on AT&T refuse to connect to AT&T’s LTE network on two separate occasions (different days, different times, and different locations miles apart). The phone remained on 850 MHz HSPA, both inside of buildings, and no amount of settings toggling or rebooting would solve the issue. Meanwhile, the T-Mobile iPhone 6 stayed connected to 20×20 MHz 4×2 MIMO LTE without and issue.

        • Spanky

          I am well aware that there’s more than one Universal Studios and have very clearly indicated in my post that the one I was referring to is in Orlando. Prior to switching to AT&T, I was with T-Mobile for over 7 years. Moreover, I was specifically describing my experience with AT&T, in response to another post whose author had a negative experience with T-Mobile at Universal Studios Orlando. Seriously, how much is T-Mobile paying you to shill for them?

        • Fabian Cortez

          I am well aware that there’s more than one Universal Studios and have very clearly indicated in my post that the one I was referring to is in Orlando.

          Melissa Cardenas‘ post was in reference to Universal Studios in California. I’m not so sure how your experience across the country validates hers or provides any true reference. Sounds more like a red herring if anything.

          Prior to switching to AT&T, I was with T-Mobile for over 7 years. Moreover, I was specifically describing my experience with AT&T, in response to another post whose author had a negative experience with T-Mobile at Universal Studios Orlando.

          Then you should learn how to properly engage in conversation and not assume everyone has access to your train of thought. Maybe you should try to reply to that individual next time and/or even sign up for a Disqus account.

    • VernonDozier

      That would need a DAS system which T-Mobile Director of cell site policy, Allan Tantillo said companies should install themselves and provide t-mobile’s billable service for free.

      Allan, a gem of consumer insight, said this last month at a DAS panel conference.

      • UMA_Fan

        This is concerning to me. I hope John Legere would enlighten us on this philosophy.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Like a good troll and specialist in misdirection, VernonDozier is misrepresenting the facts.

          DASs (not carrier neutral) on properties like Universal and Disney are not cost-effective and are part of an antiquitated model that also needs to change, just like the wireless industry prior to 2013. The greedy landlords will need to adapt or risk losing business.

          A better solution/alternative would be the use of small cells.

        • VernonDozier

          Well, Fabian, your a pretty good PR person for T-Mobile.

          Look, when your employee, a Director of Cell Site Policy on a national scale says things like sports arenas should provide service like an electrical utility like gas or electric, it’s very difficult to discern what excactly Allan Tantillo meant except by listening to the words that came from his mouth.

          What he said- “In our business, the only cost we have not been able to drive down is
          our real estate cost. They go up every day. That has got to change. When
          we get down to the smaller venues, the hospitals and enterprise space, I
          can’t afford to pay anything. We will walk away.”

          http://www.rcrwireless.com/20150503/network-infrastructure/t-mobile-us-das-tag1

          The reason why T-Mobile is still #3 is that they, like you, tell customers that if it isn’t rosey and blue-sky, your wrong.

        • VernonDozier

          Well, Fabian, your a pretty good PR person for T-Mobile.

          As an employee of Director of Cell Site Policy on a national scale, and you say things like sports arenas should provide service like a electrical utility like gas or electric, it’s very difficult to discern what excactly Allan Tantillo meant except by listening to the words that came from his mouth.

          What he said- “In our business, the only cost we have not been able to drive down is our real estate cost. They go up every day. That has got to change. When we get down to the smaller venues, the hospitals and enterprise space, I can’t afford to pay anything. We will walk away.”

          There are many more quotes online. Sorry that this employee isn’t “towing the line”.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Well, Fabian, your a pretty good PR person for T-Mobile.

          And you are a master of misdirection. Well, you think you are.

          Myself, I’m just a resourceful T-Mobile Customer wondering why coverage is an issue.

          Well, as a resourceful individual, might I suggest you take those resources and repurpose them toward your encephalon and switch carriers.

          Allan, as a Director of Cell Site Policy on a national scale for 20 years, said things like sports arenas should provide T-Mobile service like a electrical utility like gas or electric. But should I then get a bill from the sporting arena? It’s very difficult to discern what exactly Allan Tantillo meant except by listening to the words that came from his mouth.

          There was nothing unclear about his statements, as what you quoted below was very clear. I’ll address that below as well.

          to quickly build networks for AT&T, Verizon, Sprint,

          That’s not true. They’re only able to quickly build networks for AT&T and Verizon but not for Sprint.

          What he said- “In our business, the only cost we have not been able to drive down is our real estate cost. They go up every day. That has got to change. When we get down to the smaller venues, the hospitals and enterprise space, I can’t afford to pay anything. We will walk away.”

          Everything about that quote is as clear as day to me. If you are having issues with comprehension, then no one on the internet will be able to help you with that.

          When we get down to the smaller venues, the hospitals and enterprise space, I can’t afford to pay anything. We will walk away.”

          As I mentioned to someone else, these types of businesses provide Wi-Fi to their customers as part of their business. The Wi-Fi is usually free. Wi-Fi calling then takes over where low band spectrum cannot reach within the facility.

          Sorry that this employee isn’t “towing the line”, he must be affecting T-Mobile PR efforts. :)

          Please clarify your statement because I have a hard time reading your mind.

        • archerian

          The greedy landlords will need to adapt or risk losing business.

          Don’t think Disney and others would care if T-mobile works there on not, it’s not like kids will stop coming to Disney if their parents’ data is slow. From what I’ve seen, business would be the same even if it didn’t work at all.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Don’t think Disney and others would care if T-mobile works there on not, it’s not like kids will stop coming to Disney if their parents’ data is slow. From what I’ve seen, business would be the same even if it didn’t work at all.

          Disney is but one landlord.

          The point is wireless is hot right now, and with T-Mobile being the hottest (easily quantifiable), it’s more of a which landlord wants the leasing revenue versus which carrier is desperate to get with a specific landlord. Major theme parks being the exception.

        • VernonDozier

          NYC has coverage probably because Legere personally did something about it.

          I spent some time traveling at a 4-star hotel last week for work. At the hotel, they have in-building T-Mobile DAS (Exclusively). However, the network T-Mobile installed in the hotel doesn’t hand-off to the macrocell network outside the building. So, you have 5-bars inside but take 4 steps outside and you drop the call. Wait 2 seconds, you have 5 bars again. If your on a call, and leave to your car to get documents, go outside pool, or hit the golf course, you drop your call. Point is, even on DASes they own, their engineers must be offshore now because they can’t set the network to handoff the call correctly.

          Still, you have to admit that it’s terrible that a portion of each of our T-Mobile bills goes to pay a Allan, a National Director at T-Mobile whom not only knows how many customers would be affected, but also places a income and expense model around providing coverage in that area.

          Design based on price is unfortunate, rarely works, and it shows at T-Mobile. It’s likely why Deutsche Telekom is the laughing stock of all German Companies in the US. 9 German Car Manufacturers all switched to AT&T’s LTE for in-car infotainment coverage. That new AT&T contract with German Automakers for AT&T coverage continues today, and speaks to the terrible T-Mobile macrocell coverage.

          Service is great when coverage is approved through Allan’s office. However, you have to wonder if Allan Tantillo’s is Germany’s textbook definition of deadweight. For every cell site they don’t build, T-Mobile could re-allocate those funds, orignally for capital expense, in a check made out to Verizon and get 350 (or more) people out of their contract… Plus the cost of the ad. This is serious marketing dollars to cover up a terrible way of doing business.

        • vrm

          I am sure verizon and at&t are the laughing stock of everyone in India, China, Europe and pretty much everywhere else- you are an idiot with an anti-tmobile agenda, making nonsensical posts.

        • VernonDozier

          I guess I’m an idiot second-time customer then. But you know what George Bush once said— “Fool Me Once.. Fool Me Twice, Your Not Gonna Fool Me Again.”

        • Fabian Cortez

          Thank you.

          His agenda is extremely ridiculous.

        • archerian

          Have you ever used wireless in India or China? Sprint is better than most providers there. The only saving grace is calling costs are low. Better service and devices on networks here any day.

      • Jay Holm

        What is a DAS system?

        • Fabian Cortez

          What is a DAS system?

          There’s no such thing as a “DAS system.”

          VernonDozier is just once again spewing words as it comes out of his mind. A “DAS system” is as prevalent as an “ATM machine.”

          A DAS is a “Distributed Antenna System.” Just Google it as it takes a while to approve links on this site.

        • Jay Holm

          This site is really weird about posting links!

        • thepanttherlady

          They just have to be approved first because of so many spam comments/links.

    • Fabian Cortez

      This would be similar to Disneyland out West.

      Central Florida has a rather large exclusion zone that hasn’t been worked out yet.

      On a positive note, there is a cell site broadcasting Band 12 just a few miles north of Orlando off of I4. So something will eventually come down the pipe, just not in time for your current visit.

      • UMA_Fan

        I hope they do. What’s frustrating is Tmobile could get to 300 million covered POPs and still have poor coverage at Universal.

        Tmobile should do SOMETHING here. Maybe be the exclusive wifi provider the park? Tmobile is unique in the fact that that wifi is as good as coverage.

        • Richard Roma

          That’s because POPs covered is a meaningless term that isa only beneficial to retail reps and management. In terms of actual sq mile coverage, in-building coverage, and roaming in the vast areas they have zero coverage, T-Mobile is ranked dead last.

  • sidekicker89

    Does anyone else watch John Legere on Periscope? He’s awesome. He talked about 700Mhz in NYC on there.

    • sidekicker89

      * while smoking a cigar lol

      • VernonDozier

        My question is Who did he thank for the money this time? Did he find some pocket change between the couch cushions at Donald Trump’s hotel?

        • Fabian Cortez

          Okay?

        • archerian

          com’on you have the admit the Trump hotel reference was a nice one eh?

        • Kmb877

          In 2014, I had no signal @ 52nd Floor (the last one) in that building. Now I have 4G, usual 4 lines. I don’t know why Mr. Trump is talking about!

        • VernonDozier

          Have a friend at 15 CPW, right up the street from you. Coverage is very spotty whenever I visit.

    • Jay Holm

      Periscope? Never heard of it.

  • bryck

    Awesome! Good to know. I’m going to a cyclone game, and Coney Island in july.
    Hopefully they turn the switch on in Connecticut as well.

  • Steve Park

    Any hope for the channel 51 station in the Louisville MSA that is keeping 700Mhz out of a lot of rural KY and Southern Indiana?

  • dan lol

    doesnt that agreement also include the entire exclusion zone outside of new york city ?

  • Jrunner

    That will be great, if it works out, and can actually someday get around to getting an updated phone with band 12… I just wish they had the band 2 (1900) up in the areas they claim on the “new” map (or their software switched it over correctly to utilize it). Between US-24 and Westfield along US 31 in Indiana is supposedly mostly LTE in many places now according to the stupid map, but except for Kokomo, I had Edge the entire time. If I didn’t live in a city (Indy metro in my case) I’d still be VERY hesitant to sign up for t-mobile until some of these issues are worked out, despite how much I like that they’re shaking up the industry.

    • taxandspend

      Maybe something is wrong with your phone. Someone mapped it on Sensorly. And it’s LTE (though weak at times) the entire way – I’m not familiar with the area at all, but it was easy enough to find on Sensorly.

      • Justin Smith

        Sometimes sensory isn’t 100% correct/up to date with the coverage. I was driving through a small stretch of highway and found brand new LTE, so of course I started mapping. The thing is the LTE was there one day and it hasn’t come back… So that purple blotch is still there but the coverage is not.

        • Jrunner

          I don’t know if it’s the whole “sometimes a signal travels a little further at a certain time of day” thing (like how back in the day some mornings you’d get analog tv signals from the other side of the state) and someone on sensorly just got lucky and caught it, or what. I also sometimes think it may have something to do with the way the tmobile software package operates on the phone (i have an iphone 5c running ios 8.3) and looks for the network. Because it always seems to have no problems finding band 4 LTE when available, but doesn’t always like to switch to band 2, and when it slips down to Edge doesn’t always want to switch back from that either. I just know it’s frustrating anytime I’m outside a major city.

        • pbxtech

          You are talking about Trophospheric ducting, if the weather conditions are right – you get this effect. For cell bands in the micro-wavelengths – it just passes right through.

          Buildings and other structures could bounced the signal also.

          Techs must be testing something if it occurred within a day or two.

  • vinnyjr

    Massachusetts has same issue with channel 51, hope they clear that problem up here as well. Boston and surrounding suburbs have extremely strong T-Mobile Signal with very fast data speeds, if they can fix this channel 51 problem T-Mobile would have great signal penetration as well. Make it happen!

    • taxandspend

      It’s already been cleared. The problem channel in Providence will have moved out of the way by the end of the summer. The question I have is has any band 12 equipment been deployed around here yet so that they can flip the switch.

      • Drew

        Really? Is there a construction permit?

        • taxandspend

          No idea. Don’t even know if they’d need one

        • Drew

          Sure, there would be an engineering study, etc for any change to the transmitter/channel – and then a comment period for other broadcasters, and then a construction permit – none of this shows online at the FCC

        • taxandspend

          Who knows. This is where I got my info:

          By end of summer:

          Station will install and launch a new HD news editing system

          News video will be HD from all sources

          Over-the-air digital channel changing from channel 51 to channel 50, viewers will have to re-scan their TV’s to pick up new channel

          http://www.newenglandone.com/news/local-news/item/1019-sinclair-set-to-make-mark-on-wjar.html

        • Drew

          Wow – thats awesome to see – that clears B12 for all of eastern MA – fantastic! The FCC database must really be out of date. Thanks for sharing that link.

        • taxandspend

          I just really hope they install a lot of B12 equipment so that T-Mobile signal is as good as Verizon is around here. And that it’s ready to go once the channel has moved.

      • Aaron C

        There were a number of band 12 towers on my recent trip up to NH, so I would be VERY surprised if T-Mo wasn’t ready to go in those areas the moment they get clearance.

  • TBN27

    I am very happy that they are finally installing the band 12 frequency in NYC. However now I am no longer in a hurry to upgrade my phone to get band 12 connection because they are doing pretty good with the in door coverage on their current frequencies iny opinion. A few months ago I couldn’t hold a signal in the elevator in my apartment building. Now I can hold a phone call and surf the web.

  • Alex Zapata

    And once again…. Curse you Chicagoland!!!!!

  • John Wentworth

    Thank you, finally
    I’ve been waiting for this to improve indoor reception in some big buildings, I’m in NJ but still in the same exclusion zone so this is great news

    • dan lol

      I m only 45 minutes from new York City so

  • Jay Holm

    I hope this means better signal at my work, Lordship area of Stratford, Ct

    • Justin Smith

      You’ll need to have a compatible device for it to work, if you do then for sure the signal will be better!

      • Jay Holm

        I do, I have the S6. 700mhz band 12 does work on the far east side of the property where I work, it’s a 78 acre site, but the west side of the property, closer to Main St (Stratford, Ct) in the building, very poor signal.

        You guys should look up the Droids4Life group on fb, there are about 2,200 members, it’s a great group.

        • Cole C

          Can you plz stop spamming this? I see this comment on every droid life fb post. It’s annoying

        • Jay Holm

          Wow, what a prick!

  • Fabian Cortez

    Look, when your employee, a Director of Cell Site Policy on a national scale says things like sports arenas should provide service like an electrical utility like gas or electric, it’s very difficult to discern what excactly Allan Tantillo meant except by listening to the words that came from his mouth.

    No, it’s very clear.

    The reason why T-Mobile is still #3 is that they, like you, tell customers that if it isn’t rosey and blue-sky, your wrong.

    That’s incorrect.

    The reason why T-Mobile is #3 (thank you admitting to that fact, even though they just recently became #3 – maybe you were referring to Sprint and their #3 status and treading water for the past ten (10) years) is because it actually takes time to get to the 110+ million subs. that AT&T commands.

    You’re also factually incorrect. T-Mobile has never told their customers that they are wrong. In fact, that would be a terrible business decision and would not fall in line with their enormous (millions per quarter) growth within the past couple of years.

    If anything, T-Mobile advises their customers to switch to another carrier and try T-Mobile at a later time.

  • Dan Lodi

    What about outside of new York City….I m only 45 minutes from new York City not even

    • Aaron C

      There’s reportedly a band 12 tower in Riverhead, NY. I’m about 30-40 minutes to the west of Riverhead and I often see my phone in band 12, particular when I’m indoors. There haven’t been any other band 12 towers reported on Long Island, so that has to the be one I’m hitting. So it seems the signal travels VERY far.

      • dan lol

        That’s good

  • phill almeida

    how can you tell whether or not were actually on band 12?

    • dan lol

      you will get a stronger signal in areas where the signal was very weak or not as consitant

    • Aaron C

      There’s a free app called LTE Discovery that shows you pretty clearly if you’re on Band 4 or 12.

      • alex

        still on band 4, NYC queens, hope to see 12 soon

  • alex

    any updates when this is actually happening. i am all ready with S6 edge on hand.

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  • Jose Hernandez

    Apparently T-Mobile just got approval to use the 700mhz spectrum in the Orlando, FL area. The approval is dated as of July 10th, Does anyone know when we can expect to see this happening?

  • Avrohom

    Perhaps this explains something strange… my LG t-mobile phone never used to get a response in my apartment on the upper westside of NYC (only using WiFi, or near the window of one room), suddenly a few weeks ago the bedroom and the living room show phone and 4g reception! I wondered what changed, and now I think I know. Why didn’t they tell me? Just as suddenly it disappeared today, but maybe will be back this evening.
    Strangely other family members on my tmobile plan have slightly different experiences. There are just so many factors to consider when buying a celphone it could make you crazy. Will it function overseas? How many bands? Is there enough memory to run applications? memory card? 4G LTE? extra Sim for foreign travel?
    And it seems almost a matter of luck no model has all these quite basic features, and as we saw some versions of the operating system block out certain features….