Net Neutrality rules now available for the public to read

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This morning, the FCC’s full Net Neutrality order has been published. If you want to read it, I’d suggest giving yourself a day or two to work your way through it. The openly available PDF file is around 400 pages long and will almost certainly send you to sleep at least once. Following this link will open the document directly on your browser.

Net Neutrality is one of those stories that went from something dull that no one cared about, to being one of the most talked about topics of the past twelve months. That’s mostly thanks to the insanely popular John Oliver video on the subject. But still, it’s an important issue that any American consumer should care about. Especially if they want the internet to remain an open and fair playground for all companies. Big and small.

Recently, the FCC voted 3-2 in favor of the new bill which would see the internet (fixed line and mobile) reclassified as a utility under Title II. And, while we’ve generally seen this as a good thing, none of us have been able to read the new rules to see exactly what the Commission is going to roll out.

T-Mobile’s response to the new bill was generally supportive, although John Legere has stated more than once that he’d like the internet to be an open space but without all the red tape applied by Title II.

Source: FCC
Via: The Verge

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  • Troy

    I’ll wait for the cliff notes

    • tranceformer978

      Waiting for this to hit Audible.com

  • TEA

    It’s a shame you bought into this crap. There was no reason for this whatsoever except to give more control to the government over what we have left. It was about control, exterminating freedom when disagreed upon. Thankfully it will take some time and there are still fights in court for this. Ask yourself, this document that is 400 pages long, doesn’t that give you some clue about how complicated and restricted this will be? You fought for this why? Do you even know Cam?
    If you knew about it, which we didn’t because once again, we couldn’t read it. We were deemed, once again, too “stupid” for it to be available to the public before it was voted on. The FCC refused to release it to the public. I don’t care if it was brought on by a republican or democratic administration, any one who does that does not want anyone to see it and it is only about control.

    Enough said. Big companies waaaaah. Big government = eat your Wheaties or else. Anything that has no control over them (FCC, IRS) SHOULD be decimated and demolished. At least in the USA. Ask the average American if they even know what this was REALLY about. Then you will see why the wolves were dressed in sheep’s clothing.

    • Chris Meyers

      Title 2 has absolutely miniscule to do with the government taking control of the internet. Thats exactly the kind of moronic stupidity that would come from someone who ironically hasn’t read the regulations, which you are so particular about. Go read them. The primary benefit from classifying broadband as a piblic utility is that one company with size and scale can no longer prevent other smallercompanies from using the net as a whole to deliver services. TEA is an appropriate name though, teabaggers have arrived.

      • TEA

        Ouch, its always the liberals left wing fascists that scream tolerance but are the first to discriminate. My point was, if you read it, that what they proposed was not released to the public. No one should have voted on it, without seeing it first. Again, you misconstrued and deviated from my points: what American knows what was voted on? Its about pipes: a bit is a bit is a bit. Since we are on a t-mobile site let me reference T-mobile: they were THE game changer. They brought unlimited, fast speeds, upgraded a LOT extremely faster than the competition. And for what? A damn good price. No government came in and said you can’t or you must. The Internet is literally the last freedom we have left. You Smoke? How much is that costing you per pack? Is gasoline up? How much of the taxes per gallon are “regulated” to the federal government? Your electric bill up? Does that have to do with your state, your electric company, or some bill the government passed to “increase your taxes on electricity” in order to for you to “use less”? When Netflix prices goes up, who are you going to blame? Netflix or the government because they are going to charge more for 33% total internet usage of the Data through pipes. This wasnt a political statement until you had to throw the label there. The point was, NO ONE CAN EXPLAIN what the bill is, what it consists of, and how we, as consumers, benefit from it Because they refused to allow the public to see it. The media pushed it, and tech sites and bloggers jumped on it thinking it was good too. Let’s all turn General Motors into Government Motors again. The only time government inserts itself into markets is when it wants a piece of the pie, just like health insurance, and then it will eventually take over.

        • Chris Meyers

          What the hell are you talking about? Without the government and specifically the Sherman Antitrust Act and the justice department’s dogged determination, there would be NO T-MOBILE TODAY. For someone who likes to talk you seem to know little. The very fact that T-Mobile exists today and in the market segment they are in is BECAUSE the government stepped in, enforced antitrust legislation, and forced the maintenance of four major wireless companies specifically to create this type of pricing environment.

        • SteveD

          Ah yes.. The Government protecting us from the Monopolies..

          http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/9b35wz/cingular—at-t-merger-explained

        • JP

          You do know and realise that Fascism is actually on the right of the political spectrum, not left, as you have stated.

        • TEA

          No, read the definition from Merriam-Webster or a real paperback copy. Hitler-> Fascist. Mao-> Fascist. However, I regret calling him a left wing fascist. I should not have brought politics into it.

        • Hector Arteaga

          Nazism is right wing. Just so you know.

    • Brian Perez

      It was brought on by the dems…the republicans are pretty neutral..DEMS have always been more about exerting control tax tax tax. Blah blah blah…and hey people still vote for them sp there you go.. Enjoy

      • Chris Meyers

        I didn’t realize that the vast vast majority of the millions of citizen comments to the FCC and the support of virtually all the web based service companies constitutes “democrats”. So then the Republicans, are by your own account, the ones on the side of the multi billion dollar cable companies who everybody hates right? Figures. I mean you have the dynamic creative part of fhe economy, the future really, of new entrepreneurial web and app based services vs big monolith infrastructure providers who want to control their monopolistic pipe. Who else would the Republicans be for but the WRONG side?

        • thepanttherlady

          @brianperez:disqus and @chrismeyers:disqus

          This is an unofficial T-Mobile news blog, not a political one. Let’s keep it that way. Thank you.

        • Chris Meyers

          Hey when that side starts classifying proper consumer protection and conpetition regulation as some “evil democratic big government policy” then right thinking people have to speak up. These loons literally have no basis in the reality of most of our lives as average consumers who have to deal eith these nutty monopolistic cable and internet companies and their various throttling and paod prioritization schemes to influence us on what we can so. Somebody tries to solve that problem and all of a sudden the loons start screaming. They havent met one consumer protection regulation they like. Theyd have campaigned for ATT to have kept their monopoly on landlines for a millennium and stifled competition and air quality standards would be in the toilet because they “hate the EPA”. Its kneejerk reactionism and needs a response.

        • Terry

          No offense, but if this is a T-mobile blog then it should be limited to T-mobile stories only. Once you bring in the FCC and the rulings they do, then you make it political. My opinion.

        • thepanttherlady

          If you read the article, which I did, the ruling affects T-Mobile.

          There is nothing in the article regarding any political party yet some comments have already started that debate. This is not the place for those debates.

        • Terry

          And to personally attack me, assuming I didn’t read the article is not very professional. I didn’t personally attack you and would expect the same from others. My statement was my opinion on the fact that this is a political focused story that affects everyone in the US not just tmobile.

        • orlando duran

          Terry, look how comments get deleted. That is net neutrality, these other idiots blindly believe the government, as the government is always honest ! They think your an idiot. You are spot on right. They should inquire about citizens in cuba or china, they will tell you the truth

        • Terry

          I personally do not understand the point of your post, but don’t require an explanation either. My comment was, if the moderators are going to say that this is the not the place to discuss politics then they need to stop posting political based articles. Focus on what T-Mobile is doing on their network, what new plans are coming out or what new phones are coming out, nothing more.

          If you post a story that involves the Government on here then expect that people will debate their own thoughts on the government. It is the way of life in the US.

        • thepanttherlady

          If I were to personally attack you, you’d know. I’m just slightly more grown up than most in that I don’t feel the need to bash others on the internet.

          I said “If you read (present tense..pronounced reed) the article”. No assumptions made here as I have no knowledge as to whether or not you did.

          I hope that clears things up. :)

        • Terry

          Your Statement “If you read the article, which I did” could have implied that I didn’t finish it, and in fact I would say that in the absence of context it’s more likely to be understood that I didn’t finish it. And there are even some special contexts in which you say “Which I did” that even further backs up the statement that i made earlier.

          I hope that clears things up. :-)

        • thepanttherlady

          I didn’t require or need clarification but thank you anyway!

        • Terry

          I felt you did, so your welcome.

        • TEA

          By the way, you are either misinformed, or purposely being wrong. It’s the exact opposite. This bill takes away the dynamic creativity, the future of entrepreneurial web. The FCC wants to control the pipe. That’s the point. By exerting control they can say who has what and how much. Thus passing it on to the consumer. When T-mobile wrote to the FCC asking for more spectrum to bid on prior to the auction for the little companies instead of the 2 Giants having it all (which was broken up a long time ago and put into positions to be the monopolies by the government) they essentially have to follow and agree with whatever the FCC says about net neutrality. This was not a David and Goliath story, more of a I’ll-be-friends-with-Goliath-gvmt-otherwise-we-are-done-for story. In order to help T-mo’s interest they need more spectrum to bid on. All in all, it may not happen overnight, or next month or even next year but eventually speeds will go down, access will be curtailed and prices, guaranteed, will rise. Who says we should have unlimited anyway? Soon to be the government. Essentially TMO has to be friends with the enemy in order top expand. And who says they won’t be cut down once they get “too big”?

        • Chris Meyers

          They aren’t saying who and how much kid, read the regulation. I suspect you have as much knowledge about title 2 regulation and the definition of a public utility as you do about the history of T-Mobile (see below). No offense, you seem awfully loud and awfully woefully ignorant of any fafts or reality. Better to shut up now.

        • TEA

          Lol. All anybody has to do is click on your name and see the first 10 comments you’ve posted to see you are a discriminatory pile of garbage. If someone doesn’t agree with you, you shout them down and call them names. Chimp here, USA is **** in the world, there. You’ve got so many personalities of garbage you need to get back on your medication bagel. Time to get out of your underwear in your mother’s basement at 35 and work a job, “kid”. This hatred will come back to haunt you. You dont like this site, stop coming here all the time and trolling and complaining. However, Thank God for Freedom of Speech. All of us get to see what makes US.Of.A different from China.

          Enough of you. Plain and simple, do the research on the bill. It’s about control. Yes, making it a public utility is to raise taxes on us. If it were to put more TMO. LTE towers up or increase coverage I’d still have a problem with it. It’s a shame but we’ll live, hopefully, to see what it turns into.

        • orlando duran

          Tea, look how comments get deleted. That is net neutrality, these other idiots blindly believe the government, as the government is always honest ! They think your an idiot. You are spot on right. They should inquire about citizens in cuba or china, they will tell you the truth

        • BillSmitty

          And right on cue, TMO just announced an increase in taxes and fees starting next month I believe. I will never understand why some people put their utmost faith in big government. Big business can often times be awful, as well, but if I don’t like what a certain company does or how they treat me, I can choose to leave…not so much with Uncle Sam.

      • gmo8492

        Republicans neutral?! Riiiiight… >_>

      • Mike

        Democrats and Republicans are one in the same. They have their own interests at hand. Not mine or yours. They only play politics with each other on TV. After that, that they go drink and play golf together.

        • TEA

          Lol you said it! Total agreement from me.

    • gpt2010

      I am not big into politics, but am I supposed to trust a multi-billion dollar company like Verizon to look after my interests? Sorry, I would rather have the government regulate the industry. Competition is not working either to regulate the industry either. Most carriers still have shared data plans. Those types plans are the biggest joke of them all. The only ones that win on shared plans are the carriers themselves. I am not for big government, but I definitely not for big corporations either to look after my interests.

      • skywalkr2

        Because the government makes things so much better… :P

        • Mike

          Agreed. Its the lesser of two evils.

      • TEA

        I’m not for trusting either. But I pay for T Mobile. I trust T Mobile for whatever info I give them. I don’t want to share it worth anybody else. The only one looking after my interests is myself. If I see a better deal with better coverage somewhere else, I will go to them. I don’t need the government to make those decisions for me. You trust the government, or local governments, to appraise your house when you pay taxes every year? Or do you appeal and have it appraised again or someone private appraise it? Its your decision, and depends on how much of your $$$ you want to give away. The only one that should be looking out after me is myself, not the government. We don’t need them in the telecommunications business

        • Chris Meyers

          This is the simplistic stupid right winger’s mind at work here. Any government reulation is eeevil ans baaaaddd. Full stop. The guy didn’t even seem to know that without government regulation T-Mobile wouldn’t exist today. He doesn’t have the faintest notion of the ramifications of a title 2 public utility and what it means at all. Which is ironic because the guy started the post with a rant on how nobody knows what it actually means and he does. It is infact, for our foolish friend, in an environment like telecom and specifically wireless telecom where the companies are using limited spectrum belonging to the American people and where without regulation, monopolies and bad busines practices would ABOUND, is exactly why this one of the industries where reulation is the most needed. As I said earlier, these head in the sanders would have sat around and endorsed an AT&T monopoly on landlines for infinitum, they would have stepped back and watched the interbet become a pay for play sham where startups couldnt compete because cable companies own the pipe, si back and watch T-Mobile snatched up by AT&T and not in business anymore, etc etc. These loons are DANGEROUS to the average citizen.

        • orlando duran

          Following your flawed thought process ….So u support giving control to the largest monopoly in the world…the federal government. Again, this is about freedom, this rogue government is notorious for passing bullshit lime this. Look at obamacare ( which can not be legally enforced as it stands anyway)….you blindly following the government liars doesn’t amaze me

      • DStudio

        A private corporation has some tension in the relationship with you. If you’re not happy with them you stop paying them – especially if there’s competition.

        If you don’t pay the government they seize your property or take your freedom. Even in a “free” society, you elect only a select few of the politicians – and this is only periodically. The rest of the time you have to fight through very indirect and cumbersome means if they do you wrong. And if they can deceive a small majority just enough of the time they’re never stopped.

        This is all academic, and I’m sure you know this. But sometimes we fail to remember it.

        Unfortunately, with the current administration the stated reason or issue is NEVER the real issue. And when there’s a lack of transparency (like here), it’s especially so.

        I always find it odd. Certain politicians are constantly manipulating and fighting for control and power that only those who come AFTER them will enjoy. At least it seems odd for individuals who are so overtly self-centered.

        • TEA

          Best explananation I’ve seen. Thank you.

        • dtam

          not Comcast. in places where they have a monopoly, you have no choice but to pay them

        • Hector Arteaga

          COMCAST says yeah right. Your argument is invalid from the start.

    • Hector Arteaga

      You’re taking an extreme position on this. So if government is so bad, then let me as you a simple question. Would you be OK with airlines regulating themselves? Would you trust the airlines to keep themselves in check in regards to maintenance? Government is not always evil and serves a purpose. Albeit that may be an apples to oranges example, we are still talking about fruits. With these rules, it will at least give us some control over what companies do. For example, what else can you do if you are unhappy with Comcast in a Comcast service area? What if Comcast didn’t allow you to visit a particular website in which you wanted to submit a job application? Personally, I’m glad that they are now going to keep them in check. Obviously, what was already the norm wasn’t working for the reason stated above.

  • TK – Indy

    OK, so who is doing the TL;DR for me?

    • MKashi

      400 pages and several FCC editors yet they can’t generate a PDF with bookmarks or clickable ToC!!

      • Yet, that’s the same agency arrogating itself control over the internet…

        • TK – Indy

          Protecting Joe Citizen from corporate empires.

        • Zach Mauch

          It’s all in your perspective. It’s weird how often we base our viewpoints on assumptions of a groups motives for doing something. Personally, I’m cautiously optimistic conservative. I don’t like the means they used to achieve it, but they were basically forced into as their last resort. Hopefully they live up to their word and don’t go to far with it.

          Honestly what we need is for congress to get off their ass and get a decent bipartisan Net neutrality bill through.

  • TK – Indy

    Music Freedom seems to fall in the “case by case” category, which means that some ombudsman will decide. It is evident that T-mobile will have to include all sources of music in Music Freedom, or do away with it.

    • Joe

      Dam that really sucks. I guess no more music freedom or t-mobile needs to beg the fcc to allow it to stay the same.

      • gmo8492

        T-mobile has reaffirmed that music freedom will not be affected and that the FCC is more concerned about paid prioritization of networks than anything else. TKIndy is just trying to flame bait the issue.

        • TK – Indy

          You have a reference?

        • gmo8492

          Look at past blog posts.

        • TK – Indy

          So, you don’t. I read the doc, and it is impacted.

        • gmo8492

          Waiting for mods to approve the link, it’s on page 3 of the site. T-mobile has always worked with the FCC on issues like this.

        • TK – Indy

          When an excluded music service complains (and they will) there is a process put in place to take care of it. No way to justify exclusion.

        • gmo8492

          There is no exclusion, if a music service wants to be part of music freedom they have to take the initiative to contact T-mobile in order for them to be whitelisted on the network. It’s a process every music service has to go through. Last time I check every big and small streaming services are already part of the program.

        • MKashi

          do all music services have to do the “paperwork”? so its available only by subscription, even if free.

        • gmo8492

          What do you mean?

        • MKashi

          so just being a music service doesn’t make it eligible for music freedom, they have to contact T-mobile and T-mobile has to “allow” their data usage to be free? Seems like T-mobile is in a position to allow or dis-allow certain services?

        • gmo8492

          There are so many startups floating around that it would be difficult to include all of them as they pop up. That is what people assume that T-mobile could do, but they have said time and again they are not excluding any music service. T-mobile has to do all the work when whitelisting a streaming service so they ask each service for their domains so that data won’t be count against them when a user uses their service.

        • TK – Indy

          “But as Pai noted Thursday in his dissenting comments, T-Mobile’s popular Music Freedom program, which allows customers to stream music without it impacting their data plans, could be on the chopping block.”

        • gmo8492

          Let’s wait and see and enough with the speculations already. Geez.

        • Joe

          Can you give me link to where t-mobile says this…After the law got passed

        • TK – Indy

          Read the doc in the above article, it is crystal clear.

        • Joe

          I would but I don’t have the time and patience to read it. So I guess I will have to trust u.

        • gmo8492
  • TK – Indy

    Speedtest exemption will have to go. It clearly favors certain providers of a service.

    • steveb944

      It already was addressed.

      • TK – Indy

        I’m glad you think so. How?

        • steveb944
        • steveb944

          Since apparently it needs moderation because it’s a link (to Tmonews mind them). Post: T-Mobile agrees to be more transparent on customer network speeds. November 25, 2014

        • thepanttherlady

          All links require moderation regardless of what it is and this particular one was approved 2 minutes prior to your next comment. ;)

        • steveb944

          Haha. Yeah I noticed after I had posted. Thanks!

        • TK – Indy

          Ok, but that is a different issue pertaining to never showing the throttle on a test. I am talking about certain speed test apps not counting against data cap. That will have to go, as it favors certain of them, and they all get money from advertising revenue.

        • steveb944

          Well then you should have specified.

          Don’t all carriers exclude that? I think it’d be pretty ridiculous to be testing your speed and have it count. The work around is the company can release their own, like Comcast does.

  • Everything that the FCC regulated was guaranteed to be cartelized and innovation stifled. So the people should be more careful when wishing that the government would control anything, for the FCC has also authority on content.

    But it’s all right, as the FCC has no authority over the internet and this is nothing but a stretch of its charter which courts will strike down.

    • TK – Indy

      This is a wrong-minded approach that would lead to anarchy. They courts will say, let congress fix it. Of course, congress can’t get anything done, it has abdicated its authority to the Supreme Court, so round and round we go.

  • balazer

    An FCC report and order is not a bill.

    • TK – Indy

      Getting political here, but FCC authority comes from law. If courts/congress take that authority away, no more FCC at all. Won’t happen.

      • Es Joe

        Good news, this will be tied up in the courts for years before it gets struck down by the US Supreme Court as has happened to the FCC in the past; including it’s last attempt at so called “open internet” fules The FCC does not have the authority to do whatever it wants. Were you educated by the public school system?

  • balazer

    An FCC report and order is not a bill.

    • TK – Indy

      Oh, I get you now, sorry. You are correct. Cam needs a US Civics class.

    • Govt Destroys Net

      400 pages of government regulations, what could possibly go wrong?

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