T-Mobile-friendly Microsoft device shows up in FCC, new Lumia incoming?

If there’s one thing we’re short on in the world of T-Mobile devices, it’s big Windows Phones. But, there’s a small glimmer of hope shining from FCC filings which could indicate that’s about to change.

In a filing made by Microsoft, there’s a device that’s been tested on a number of LTE and HSPA bands. All of which point to a device compatible with T-Mobile’s airwaves. The device was tested on band 2 (1900MHz) LTE and WCDMA,  Band 4 LTE (1700/2100), and even tested on T-Mobile’s low-frequency 700MHz band 12 LTE network.

There were a couple of other LTE, GSM and WCDMA bands tested as well, but, the fact that T-Mobile’s current bases are covered has potential to be good news. If this amounts to a new T-Mo Lumia.

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From the looks of all the evidence, it’s almost certain that this device will be the follow-up to the mid-range Lumia 1320. This was the budget phablet launched by Nokia to provide a more wallet-friendly option, alongside the Lumia 1520. Digging through the filings revealed the mobile device labels, which include the model numbers RM-1064 and RM-1065. These are variants of a RM-1062 device previously found in the filings.

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Lumia 1320

Scouring around the internet for those model numbers reveals a number of intriguing articles. And it would seem that dummy units of this Lumia 1330 have been arriving in India. These are the RM-1062 models, which offer support for even more LTE bands.

I must iterate, that just because a compatible device shows up at the FCC doesn’t mean we’re going to see it on T-Mobile. But we know one won’t show up on T-Mobile unless it’s been to the FCC first. So, I – along with many T-Mo Windows Phone fans – am hoping this makes its way to the magenta carrier. Although, it’d be nicer if it was a flagship phone. Not another mid-range device.

With all that said, Microsoft is hosting an event on Monday, March 2nd in Barcelona during MWC 2015. And yours truly will be there, and you can be sure I’ll be bringing you coverage if anything is announced re: T-Mobile showing Lumia some love.

Sources: FCC, FCC (PDF), GSMArena, NPU, NPU 2
Via: Reddit

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  • FILA

    -crickets-

    • Ordeith

      Cricket already has the 1320. :)

  • besweeet

    Hopefully its RF is better than the 925. That thing is terrible.

    • Wyn6

      My 925 actually gets stellar reception. Either way, I’ll be waiting until the next Windows Phone 10 flagship before I box my 925.

      • besweeet

        Mine would typically prefer no service in areas where my iPhone would even have a bar or two of EDGE or GPRS (referring to low strength areas). Also has a hard time of latching back onto LTE after losing it for a while. Not sure if it running a dev preview of WP8 has anything to do with it.

        • Wyn6

          I did have a noticeable dip in battery life after installing the Dev Preview. But, reception has pretty much stayed the same.

      • I’m boxing the 925 when the 1330/1331/1335 comes out.

    • notyourbusiness

      I guess you live in a still unfarmed area. My 925 has been getting me excellent reception, plus data speeds of around 25Mbps down at home. It’s nearing 60Mbps when I’m out and about.

      • besweeet

        Nope. This was in many different areas, new and old. May be hit or miss. I’ve read plenty of similar reports from other 925 users about things being worse than the already-bad iPhones.

      • I live in an unfarmed town. Along US 278 between the Aiken/Barnwell County line and the intersection with SC 39, I got five bars of 2G consistently with the Lumia 925, along with about a bar or two of LTE. Meanwhile, I got spotty coverage where I live about three miles north of where I described, where it is still 2G.

    • eanfoso

      How though? When I had one I loved it

  • monkeybutts

    Cool good to see Microsoft is likely giving something to T-mobile hopefully wifi calling for windows 10 as a platform is made similar to iOS so users can get any windows phone they want.

  • IamDefiler

    Microsoft has already confirmed no WP flagship will be announced at MWC this year. Not that another midrange couldn’t be announced but I don’t see that happening either.

    • The release of a flagship, which is a phone greater than 5.5 inches with prolific cameras, will be released in the second quarter. That will be called the Microsoft Lumia 1330, 1331 or 1335.

      • eanfoso

        According to Nokia power user, it’ll be the Lumia 1335, they already started getting dummies in India

      • IamDefiler

        the 13xx was never considered a flagship. It’s a midrange phablet.

        • Iamnumber6

          Even as a midrange phablet it is vastly superior to the 5XX and 6XX series out with no camera flash or front facing camera.

        • IamDefiler

          OK. I’m not sure what this has to do with my original post though.

  • bluechrism

    IN the meantime, you can go and get Windows 10 on your Lumia 635 now via the Windows Insider app

  • XT14N

    Perfect. I’m thinking of getting my mom a WP.

    • TheVorlon

      You hate your mom that much?

      • Ordeith

        You make the ones you hate suffer with Android.

      • monkeybutts

        Windows phones are incredibly easy to use. Perfect for a person who has never had a smartphone. My mom loved hers as her first cell phone.

      • Mike Palomba

        I have an iPhone and I truly prefer Windows Phone UI a lot more. I won’t use it because of the lack of apps I use and because it doesn’t have iMessage and FaceTime but Windows phone are very nice. I gave one to someone as their first smart phone and they absolutely love it and still use it (Lumia 521) today.

        • Deihmos

          The Lumia 521 is the second worse phone I have ever used. The #1 still belongs to the Palm Pre.

        • Mike Palomba

          It’s no beast in terms of specs but for a first time smart phone it’s very nice, easy to use, and capable of most modern tasks

        • I had the Lumia 521 for 14 months until two weeks ago. The reason I had to ditch it was because it didn’t have a Band 2 (1900 mhz) 4G radio. The Lumia 521 is notable because it was the second longest period of time that I had a phone, only behind Alltel’s LG AX155, which I kept for a 23 month period from late December 2008-early December 2010.

      • XT14N

        If I did, I would’ve gotten her a phone that can easily download malware from the official store.

        • A lot of the anti-Windows Phone crowd don’t understand how pervasive malware is on the IOS and Android devices. Just this week, an eye-popping 75% of all dating apps in the two most popular mobile OSes stores were severely vulnerable to security breaches. This study was done by IBM.

        • eanfoso

          Don’t forget the lag

      • eanfoso

        You’re very ignorant, typical lagdroid fan

        • Darcy Myers

          Yeah because windows puts out such quality products (rolls eyes). If you buy a cheap android phone you get cheap quality just like windows. I bought a crappy windows phone once and it did even turn on exchanged it and guess what same problem. My computer is windows and I won’t touch it. Lags so bad and there are always updates that take forever to download.

        • Ordeith

          You respond with more ignorance? I wouldn’t have publically admitted such a mental handicap if I were you.

        • Darcy Myers

          You know people who can only throw around names are usually the ignorant ones. Js. I’m sorry you have nothing better to say.

        • Granted the Windows Phone 7 devices were bad, but every Windows Phone 8+ device is superior to any Android phone that’s ever been made past, present and future. Better battery life, less lag, doesn’t heat up when the temperature is 70°f or warmer. Outside of apps, you name it, Windows Phone is better.

        • Darcy Myers

          Sure. Noooo thank you. I will pass. I would rather get an IPhone. They are doing so good that they have sold crap. I’m sorry but no thank you.

        • Ok. But Android is inferior to Windows when it comes to the real tests I did. They may sell well, but Android is crap.

        • Darcy Myers

          I’m pretty sure majority wins when it comes to, well, almost everything. Windows hasn’t proven to make a decent product free of crap in years. Look at all the advertising they have done and it has done them no justice. So dude no go here.

        • Google circumvents IE’s security by default. I found that out a month ago. That BS move ensures me I’ll never buy another Google device!

        • Darcy Myers

          I wouldn’t trust Microsoft/Internet Explorer with a 10 ft pole. Talking about lag. I haven’t had any problems with my phone and most of the lagging problems has to do with crap added after google. If you knew anything about tech (other than to copy what you read on the Internet) you would know that.

        • I have an associates degree in computer technology. I know my tech. And I know that in situations where I am outside during the summer season, Google/Android is the worst. Bar none.

        • Darcy Myers

          As I have said before if you buy a cheap android phone you get crap just like anything. Buy cheap quality get cheap quality. Windows is the same. You prefer window while prefer android. I will never switch to windows. They haven’t put out quality in years. The closest to good was windows xp. After that it all went down hill.

        • These are high end Androids I am referring to as crap – I had to hold a friend’s phone while she went in the ocean for a bit while at the beach in the hottest day of the summer 2014. But, anyways, to each their own.

        • Darcy Myers

          Doesn’t sound high end to me. I think you are full of it. Js

        • You’re describing yourself, because you’re obviously way too blind to the facts about all Android phones. All of them have a problem with overheating in summer heat. ALL. OF. THEM.

        • Darcy Myers

          Mine doesn’t. Never had a problem in the summer with any of my phones.

        • Do you live in the South? That’s where I live and it’s a major issue from late May-Labor Day.

        • Darcy Myers

          I have. Florida for 2 years and no issues.

        • Darcy Myers

          Again I think you are full of it. Obviously you don’t know what you are talking about.

        • eanfoso

          No I can vouch for that, my last android to ever own was a high end (galaxy note 2) got it the day it came out was great for the first two months but then it started to lag, I was unable to download maps to the phone itself to be used as an actual GPS (I travel outside of the country, and it even comes in handy when I travel outside of state, since let’s face it t mobile coverage outside of big cities sucks) so I couldn’t look up anything while being offline, the camera was okay but behind my old Nokia n 8, and it wasn’t until the day that I was coming out of a concert that my phone came out of my pocket and fell on concrete, screen shattered WHILE BEING IN A CASE! at this I remembered my little sister throwing my mother’s Lumia 810 on tile floor and it just bounced back, then I did my research and yes found Nokia quality will never let you down, then I got myself a Lumia 920 unlocked

        • eanfoso

          Even if it’s after Google stuff, there’s still lag though, we’re talking about the phone overall, not at a specific point in time.

        • Darcy Myers

          That just proves not all androids are the same. Depends where you get them.

        • eanfoso

          The t mobile store, but they all have sucked for what I need them to do, and yes even the high end ones from HTC, Samsung, Sony etc, the only Android phone I have to say I was very content with was the Sony Ericsson xperia x10a it was very fluid and for back in 2010 it’s camera was top notch. But of course, still behind the Nokia n8 that had a killer 12 mega pixel Carl Zeiss for 2009.

        • eanfoso

          Like seriously, you judge a phone based on advertisement? You said in a previous comment that you haven’t even gotten to try a Windows phone yet they are crap to you? Please, educate yourself, don’t just read but actually go to a store and try things out instead of sounding so ignorant.

        • Darcy Myers

          I definitely so have conversations with people that start with “like”. But never have I said I never got to mess around with a windows phone.

        • eanfoso

          You said previously that whatever phone you tried it didn’t come on and you decided to try again, same thing happened and you decided to never go that route…. I don’t get you.

        • Darcy Myers

          That doesn’t mean I haven’t even played around with them. Just means I haven’t owned a working one. I have a friend that owns one and about the only good thing about it is that camera imo. If you don’t like my opinion than scroll past. Nobody said you have to agree.

        • eanfoso

          That is true it’s all about variances, but where you’re making a big ignorant mistake is that you’re encompassing windows as a whole, XP vista and windows 7 are by no means made the same way as a Lumia 930, you’re comparing hp (computer maker) and putting it in the same category as Nokia (non computer maker) so please, learn that just because they are widows doesn’t mean they are made by the same manufacturer, since well 90+% of Windows phone comes from Nokia the rest goes to HTC and Sammy, so please educate yourself and never put them on the same category again, you sound like an ignorant fool.

        • Darcy Myers

          What is ignorant is getting so angry just because I refuse to buy a windows phone. You sound crazy. Get help. I won’t like windows phones. I don’t like the operation system at all. I own a windows 8 or whatever it is upgraded to after and I hate it. I do not like the operating system on it. I didn’t like it when I played with my friend’s phone either. So if this make you mad please get help. I’m not the one who doesn’t understand that different brands of phones operate differently. Samsung add a lot of bloatware slowing down their phones, I don’t know about htc because I haven’t owned one, Sony makes a solid device(not laggy, great camera, and really sturdy), not fond of the nexus because it just isn’t to my preferences. What someone likes and dislikes should never make someone mad. And explaining that not all androids are laggy and overheat or whatever shouldn’t either. If it does than please get help.

        • eanfoso

          I’m not one bit angry, if anything I’m feeling amused by your lack of knowledge in the technology industry, putting a mobile OS in comparison to a PC OS, check this out: The Mac OSX is phenomenal, you can do multitasking like no other, absolute hands down to that OS, now using an iPhone is utterly frustrating for its inability to do simultaneous things at once, and that’s even when it’s made from the same company, in the Windows phone world, it’s really only Nokia the main contender, but you can’t really put Nokia and their version of Windows phone on the same area as let’s say Hewlett Packard, it’s just like you can’t put Android in the same ring as Linux for computer,or compare all things related to Android with a Google chromebook because they both run Android apps, so no don’t worry I’m not getting upset, I promise, like I said I just find it amusing your lack of knowledge. Now on the Sony yes they do have pretty decent cameras, but still not enough compared to a Lumia camera

        • Darcy Myers

          What you seem to forget is I have messed around with my friend’s windows lumia and I don’t like it. You call me ignorant just because I dislike an OS but other than me disliking you your absolute favorite OS you know nothing about me. I’m completely fine that you disagree but why can’t you get over the fact that not everyone will agree with you and move on. It is an opinion just like yours. Move on man and get help.

        • Darcy Myers

          You are the one calling names and above anything that anyone can say, name calling make a person sound most unintelligent.

        • eanfoso

          No, it makes a person sound less intelligent when they use crappy grammar. I only started firing shots because you started the argument about Windows, don’t get butthurt.

        • Darcy Myers

          Ugh I’m done with you. You just like to argue and obviously don’t understand what the word opinion means and think name calling makes you sound intelligent. I am bored with you.

        • eanfoso

          Because you calling me unintelligent and saying I need help makes you the better person, right? I completely understand what opinion is, I’m not telling you that you have to get a Lumia or else, it’s all about choice, now the pressure point was when you started to attack Windows saying no good products have been released, and it’s not that you’re bored with me, you just don’t have good rebuttals that made you grow frustrated.

        • Darcy Myers

          No I’m bored with someone who sounds no older than a teenager and uses word like “like” to start a sentence and then thinks I am the one who can’t come up with a good rebuttal. Oh and you can’t start a conversation that way and then tell others they have bad grammer. Js I’m not calling names. Unintelligent isn’t a name. Yes I don’t like windows products. That is my opinion. Get over it and please move on. Smh

        • eanfoso

          Certainly not a teenager, if you don’t like Windows products (even though this article is about Windows phones only, didn’t say anything at all about Hewlett Packard, Lenovo etc, ) then did you come here to just troll then? Smh and yet you say my grammar is bad, please don’t make me laugh, or throwing letters like, “Js” why don’t you go back to school? I’m actually a chemical engineer, I don’t like to boast about what I do for a living, but I feel like you should at least know, anyway good luck on being close minded and being part of the main stream with your android toy.

        • Darcy Myers

          Haha hahahahaha sorry that made me laugh. I only said something to begin with because someone was saying all androids are laggy. WhIch is the furthest thing from true. I put words and phrases where they belong. Putting “like” at the beginning of a sentence is typical of a teenager but I never hear it from an intelligent adult. The Js stands for just saying which is used by people to type fast but still get a point across. Sorry I have other things to do. Now I’m done with pointlessly explain things to you.

        • eanfoso

          Ah that makes some sense, well English isn’t my first language and I begin with like when I’m perplexed about something, and yeah they’re all laggy, maybe not out of the box, but after a few months they all become laggy, and aw I’ll miss you, you were really helping me kill time at the control room, but fine, go ahead and be a good citizen, don’t forget to fill up so we get a nice bonus this year!:)

        • Bill Berry

          Why do we every time have to have this contest or debate between Windows Phone and Android? Are there not enough forums to cover this, to avoid this nonsense here?

        • eanfoso

          So has McDonald’s but that doesn’t make me want to get their burgers.

        • Darcy Myers

          I have no lag on my Sony so I’m pretty sure that isn’t a problem.

        • eanfoso

          Don’t forget premium Nokia built quality, compared to flimsy cheap plastic.

        • eanfoso

          A computer is so much different than a mobile phone, and besides I never hear people I know who use vaio laptops that say they have a problem, and even the high end crap that Samsung makes or HTC, like EW I wouldn’t want to hold something as flimsy as a Sammy toy that takes pathetic pictures (compared to mu Lumia 1020) and best part is battery life, while android is busy burning battery sending your information to google windows phone battery last good two days, and no you don’t have to be careful with the battery, at least I’m not and use my phone rather heavily. And yes I get LTE with t mobile along hspa+ in case that was going to be your rebuttal to me having a non t mobile phone.

        • Darcy Myers

          That’s why you don’t go with main stream crap. I have a Sony and it has great battery life. Not flimsy at all in fact a friend dropped hers off her car and drove away and it didn’t even scratch.
          So like I said before quality.

        • eanfoso

          It’s still a high end Android, and yes that’s why I chose Windows instead of any others, no mainstream at all, that way I get the absolute best, no lag and best cameras on the market and the best mapping and location services on the planet, and of course the ability to download maps to the phone itself.

      • I wish there was a “mute” button for people like this.

  • jawash22

    Buy a Verizon Icon. After the 8.1.1 Denim update it works on Tmo with MMS and everything. Verizon devices are GSM unlocked. Get a flagship for $200-$300 instead of tmo low-mid range stuff.

    • Tim3496

      That’s encouraging… I was using a Lumia 928 from Verizon and I couldn’t send SMS at all. And I also couldn’t use the Internet Sharing feature.

      • You can use SMS if you turn off mobile data. Strangely, Verizon’s phones won’t text when you’re connected to other 4G networks.

    • Bill Berry

      Verizon Wireless doesn’t carry the Lumia 1520, but I’ve been given that some thought since they do carry the M8W variant unlocked to GSM; it makes it the perfect one device fits all carriers. Even an unlocked AT&T device works pretty darn good on TMobile; yet there isn’t a single unlocked T-Mobile (non-LTE) device that is compatible on Verizon Wireless or AT&T. What pisses me off, HSPA+ isn’t available where 2G has been upgraded to LTE in rural USA. Cities, yes; rural nope!

      • eanfoso

        Do like I did, get a Lumia 1520 from att, then Unlock it from cellunlocker.net, you’ll get both hspa and LTE with t mobile

  • The unlocked worldwide version is the better one, if you can do without T-Mobile’s Wi-Fi calling. It is compatible to 14 major LTE bands.

    • Bill Berry

      Yep, that’s the device that’s number one on my wish list; Wi-Fi calling is nice but LTE just about everywhere where there is coverage makes Skype easily viable.

  • kev2684

    will we ever see a cross network compatible lumia 1520 successor or nah?

    • I doubt it, because the 1520 is six inches in screen size and most flagships have come in between 5.5 and 5.7 inches in size.

  • eanfoso

    Shout out to cam for staying on top and giving us windows phone people attention, hopefully ilegere will hear our shouts and gets us a flagship this summer that preferably has a Carl Zeiss lens, no offense to HTC people but that camera sucks compared to the high end Lumias

  • davidwal

    It would be nice to have more choices in the Windows phone space.

  • Windows Phones definitely need more choices.

    • Agree. Windows Phones, both Lumias and non-Lumias alike, need to get rid of carrier exclusivity, and allow all carriers to sell the mobile devices.

      • eanfoso

        It’s not Nokia or Microsoft’s fault, it’s all about the carrier dude, carriers like att and Verizon simply boast about exclusivity because no one else has them, it’s all about marketing

  • guest

    does the lumia icon from Verizon get HSPA+ 1700Mhz and LTE and is it unlocked

    • eanfoso

      Yes it does, and you can buy it outright from the Microsoft store, because unlike Verizon they don’t make money on phones they sell to non customers.

  • broadbander66

    Cam, I don’t know if this is your site but the ads below, have convinced me not to return to this site. They are low-brow Neanderthal ads.

  • gameovertime1

    I’m interested in many choices, I’m interested in flagship…
    iPhone doesn’t have any choices, they only have flagship (5c is previous years flagship)
    Android Flagships are available on every carrier
    Windows Phone Flagships are only on AT&T and Verizion
    A variety of flagship devices is much different than a variety of mid-tier devices
    T-Mobile only had 1 flagship device for Windows Phone 7, 8, 8.1 – HTC One M8 for Windows which I believe has already been EOL’d
    WP fans will be blamed for the lackluster response to the phone because they went with a cheaper WP phone or another OS having grown tired of waiting for 2 years for a flagship device. I hope that T-Mobile and/or will rectify this, or at least provide some visibility to Windows Phone fans about the paltry selection of Windows Phone devices and utter lack of flagship presence

    • Iamnumber6

      Lumia 521, 530, 535, 625, 635 are not “mid range” devices. They have substandard ram (512mb), no front camera and no flash. They are low end devices period.

      T-Mobile has no mid range windows phones. They have one sort of supported flagship in the M8 and the low end 52X and 63X series.

      • that_guy

        The 535 has 1 Gb ram and a front camera.

        • Iamnumber6

          Is the 535 available on t-mobile?

    • Bill Berry

      The stores where I live still carry the 925 but at the same price it was when first introduced; $418, which is insane.

  • SilentRick

    I’m sick and tired of T-Mobile’s lack of,commitment to Windows Phones. I have a 925 and have been on Jump. No comparable upgrade and several months later, my 925 is paid off and no new phone. Joke what a joke.

    • Bill Berry

      Took them forever to getting around to updating it to 8.1 too. What happened to the Lumia 1525? Worse, when is the HTC One M8 for Windows is to receive the Wi-Fi calling update which just infuriated me. Who makes the decision not to have in their stable the Lumia 1520.3? Why for the love of God was that device not made available to us?

      • Dr8820

        The only problem is, and my history with Windows and T-Mobile shows this, is that T-Mobile will release a Windows device that will receive maybe one update and then T-Mobile will never update it again.

        • Bill Berry

          I’m really sour with T-Mobile and Microsoft after the debacle with Windows Phone 7.x. Worse, with the exception of the Samsung Ativ S, there is no Windows Phone 8 device on the market that can be interop-developer unlocked either.

  • Dr8820

    I am in the jump program, and after having the HD2, HD7, and Lumia 810 which were all dropped with no support from T-Mobile, I jumped to AT&T for the Lumia 1520.

  • Bill Berry

    Would anybody like to enlighten us on what happened to the Lumia 1525 that was slated for all carriers when we first heard about it last September? Pretty sad we have to buy the 1520.3 and still no love.

    • eanfoso

      Best guess is that it was scraped off when Microsoft purchased Nokia D&S, just saying, the att unlocked version also works with t mobile LTE and hspa+ refarmed areas

  • Bill Berry

    Thanks eanfoso! I understand AT&T handicapped the their variation of the 1520 but it’s hard to ignore the price point despite what they did. I’m aware of the 1520.3. I sort of wish Verizon Wireless would have picked it up so it would be available on all 3 carriers (unlocked for GSM). Thanks again!