T-Mobile Wideband LTE touches down in Boise

 

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T-Mobile’s wideband LTE network has landed in Boise, just shortly after the company announced the arrival of its faster network in Connecticut and Philadelphia.

On the heels of recent LTE upgrades in Philadelphia, Connecticut and the Greater Bay Area, T-Mobile (NYSE: TMUS) today announced that it has made things even faster in Boise by upgrading its LTE network to Wideband LTE, bringing up to a 50% increase in mobile speeds to customers. Already in November, T-Mobile customers have observed download speeds as high as 67.5 Mbps. With the average download speed clocking in at 19.5 Mbps, T-Mobile customers in Boise are seeing speeds faster than both AT&T and Verizon and two times faster than Sprint.

With the addition of Boise, the “fatter data pipes” are now active in 21 markets across the U.S:

• Atlanta, GA
• Honolulu, HI
• Orlando, FL
• Greater Bay Area, CA
• Houston, TX
• Greater Philadelphia Area, PA
• Birmingham, AL
• Jacksonville, FL
• Portland, OR
• Columbus, OH
• Las Vegas, NV
• Seattle, WA
• Connecticut
• Los Angeles, CA
• Tampa, FL
• Dallas, TX
• Minneapolis, MN
• Upstate New York Area
• Detroit, MI
• Mobile, AL
• Boise

This leaves just 4 markets left to activate before the end of 2014, as T-Mobile pushes to meet its target of 25 markets.

As we’ve reported earlier this month, one of those markets could well be New York City, which is yet to be added to T-Mobile’s official list. We’ve been informed of wideband LTE sightings in Brooklyn, and other areas in the Big Apple.

With only 7 weeks left until the end of the year, it doesn’t leave much time for the engineers to get the work finalized. But with the momentum and speed displayed so far, it wouldn’t be at all surprising to see the Data Strong network show its power in New York City.

Source: T-Mobile

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  • besweeet

    Starting to think of “wideband LTE” as a marketing gimmick, at least in many of these areas. Speeds I’ve observed in a handful of normal LTE-to-wideband LTE areas are more or less the same.

    • Das_juden_adam

      Its not about increasing the speed but allowing more people on the network. Think of it as a straw with liquid. The bigger the straw, the more liquid can go through it. If there is more room it wont slow the speed down…aka clogging the straw.

      • besweeet

        I already understand that, but they continue to mention mobile speed increases in the press releases, social media, etc., and it’s not necessarily happening in many of the upgraded wideband areas.

        • Bori

          I have to agree with you on that. They do make a big emphasis on the Speeds you’d get.

        • Roger Sales

          the speed bursts usually happen when you are close to a tower – at least I notice a significant difference on a 10×10 LTE configuration in the North Jersey area. (10 mbps vs 40-50 when close.)

        • besweeet

          Interesting. I personally never saw low speeds (10Mbps~) like that, close or far.

        • Oscar

          Almost all of these tower upgrades are also met with backhaul upgrades to match. However, just because there is more spectrum being used does not inherently change the efficiency of the spectrum over a distance, at least not nearly as much as switching to a higher/lower frequency depending on the proximity to the tower.

          However, the wideband 15×15 and 20×20 should lead to much more consistent speeds during peak usage hours, which is probably the basis for all the speed claims, as you would be getting faster data during these peak hours.

          With that said, if you run a speedtest on your 11:00 lunch brake in a large city, speeds really should be faster than they would be before the wideband. In other terms, it would increase the average speed of traffic rather than the speed limit, which is still good.

        • besweeet

          Again, I wasn’t referring to all wideband LTE areas, but just the ones I’ve been to, including Houston and a few cities in Florida. Speeds literally remained the same prior to getting upgrades, regardless of time of day or load. My maximum in Jacksonville, FL averages right at 40Mbps, telling me that there’s still a soft cap on speeds (the usual 40/20 that’s seen in many areas, though upload is often above 20), or backhaul hasn’t caught up.

        • KingCobra

          The mobile speed increases are only temporary until enough customers are added in a given area to where they go back down to the same speeds they were before. It’s like adding an extra lane on a highway and then a few years later that lane is congested too and you need to add another one.

        • besweeet

          You’re assuming that areas will become increasingly congested, which isn’t automatically the case.

    • Brian Perez

      Is about increasing capacity

    • Jay J. Blanco

      With the rate of cus toner additions. You won’t see as high speeds. They are marketing speed because it’s theoretically speaking. Those are the speeds you should see on average. Those speeds aren’t garunteed. Nor is coverage it’s in the fine print.

      • besweeet

        Additions are still area-dependent. If they add a million customers, but 0 of the new additions are in city X, speeds shouldn’t be affected, for good or for worse.

        • Jay J. Blanco

          That’s true but some people as in heavy users big down the service. I use to be one of those people. And you have to factor in vistors who travel through also can effect the network. That’s what is happening in my city.

    • JB45

      Just like Verizon XLTE, and Sprint Spark

      • besweeet

        What’s a “Sprint Spark?”

        Just kidding… Was pretending that Sprint didn’t exist. They hardly do now, I guess.

        • JB45

          I just don’t understand how they are still so slow. My Fiancée has Sprint and she cant wait to leave them at the end of the month.

  • Verizonthunder

    Really still no 15×15 or 20×20 for Baltimore, Maryland!

    • Singleweird

      you should move.

  • CalicoKJ

    OK, can you now get south central ID out of EDGE please?

    • Ryan

      You must be in Twin Falls right? It gets even worse farther east.

      • CalicoKJ

        Twin actually has LTE, but go 5 miles in any direction from there and you’re back to EDGE. Yep, going east is bad until Poky and don’t you dare venture far away from the interstate-but that goes for the majority of ID.

        • Ryan

          So true!! I lived in Pokey while going to school and you’re lucky to get dial-up speeds. On the other hand, I just ran a speed test 5 min ago and got 45 down and 12 up!! Was getting around 24 down before. That will change though once I leave work and drive home LOL

    • KingCobra

      Areas that have EDGE right now should all be LTE by late summer 2015

    • Singleweird

      why do you have tmobile?

  • Nick

    The Providence, RI metro area has been Wideband 15×15 for a while now. I wonder why T-Mobile hasn’t added us to the list yet?!

    • Brian Perez

      Maybe is in the testing stages their still working out the kinks

  • Marcelo_L

    Boise? Really? WideBand LTE in Idaho, but no love for Miami?

    Damn…….

    • Jay J. Blanco

      Mertocps has to be shut down and refarmed. MetroPCS had a large native network in Florida. Be patient it will come. They still have 4 more markets to meet goals. They surely aren’t going to stop at 25 though

      • Marcelo_L

        True that. I thought they had enough spectrum already that they didn’t have to refarm just to make it happen. Bummer…..

    • Oliver Jackson

      Celo,its coming. I got wind of WideBand in West Palm Beach and Boca Raton, so it’s maybe quietly making its way down my friend as I too am waiting patiently

  • Justsomecommentor

    Boise? This will make a lot of potato farmers happy.

    • Jay Holm

      Lol! Yep!

    • Singleweird

      boise, idaho has a quarter of a million people. this will make the portion of 250 thousand people that have tmobile – happy.

  • Raiterio Patterson

    Let me guess, the Queen City isn’t one of the 25???

    • Bori

      Queen City as in Cinci or Charlotte?

      • JB45

        I doubt it will be either. Cincy still has a long way to go. As im sure does Charlotte.

        • Bori

          LOL aint that the truth, at least Charlotte has 10Mzh now. I’d say by mid next year we will be closer.

      • Raiterio Patterson

        Everybody knows Charlotte is the one true Queen City

        • Bori

          Well I know that, but regardless people still call this the Queen City, so that’s why I had to ask.

        • JB45

          not to mention we tied in football

    • KingCobra

      They recently acquired 5mhz of 1900 PCS here from US Cellular so it’s possible they might use that to make Charlotte 15×15 in the near future.

      • Raiterio Patterson

        I don’t know about

  • Brad

    I wonder where Cleveland is on the list…

    • Brad

      Uh, definitely just tested and getting 64 down 16 up… we’re coming soon, it seems!

  • JaswinderSinghJammu

    Good for Boise. Keep up the good work T Mobile.

  • draws

    No Chicago love yet

    • Singleweird

      thanks for venting

  • Ryan

    This is great! Problem is once you leave Boise area its terrible.

    • Singleweird

      you’re right. tmobile should just STOP improving their network because they have spots without LTE and thats simply unacceptable

  • Roberto Jaimes

    Who even lives in Boise? Bring it to Austin

    • Chris

      Why ask the internet? I’m sure if you go there, you’ll see some people and maybe ask them who they are.

    • Most of Idaho, that’s who.

      • Roberto Jaimes

        Who even lives in Idaho?

      • Roberto Jaimes

        Kidding. Did a school project on it.

    • xealo

      I do cuh! You got your Google fiber, now be happy.

      • Roberto Jaimes

        I have unlimited data. Don’t need wifi

    • jay_max

      Roberto, ignorance is ugly. Be nice.

      • Roberto Jaimes

        I’m just saying that Austin has a bigger population. I googled the biggest cities by population. Austin is #11 Boise is #98

      • Roberto Jaimes

        And when we have out music events the network gets congested. Data was so slow nothing hardly loaded. Not even spotify. Which is why we need wideband.

    • SonOfACook!

      Yeah, good point. Actually, T-Mobile divested ownership of all it’s stores in Idaho not too long ago. Apparently it was an unprofitable market to sell service in.

      • k

        Its always about the pops. More pops, mo money. Problem is coverage suffers because have to concentrate on pops.

    • k

      1/2 the pop lives inside of boise metro. Thats approx. 500K pops.

      • Roberto Jaimes

        The Austin metro is 1+million. The city of Austin itself 850k. Sooooo

    • sir1jaguar

      You are totally right…

      AUSTIN, TEXAS

      * FASTEST GROWING CITY in the USA
      * Won in almost 8 years the best city to live in
      * Have the best Barbecue
      * F1 race that is the largest car racing in the world
      * SXSW
      * ACL
      * AND tons of things that people love to see and do
      * ETC…….

      Still NO WIDEBAND???

      WOW JUST WOW…….

      • SonOfACook!

        In the 2012 timeframe, T-Mobile was originally going to sell the Texas network to Dallas-based AT&T.

        Then, after AT&T crunched the numbers, they decided to offer billions for the entire company.

  • Jay Holm

    Hmm…I wonder what the latest is going on with the AWS-3 auction???

  • Bori

    You know, I don’t ever remember Magenta being such a Popular color till now, we all want it..

  • Joshua Miller

    Does anyone know when Southern California San Diego will be upgraded?

  • Terry

    For anyone wanting to know if Wideband is coming to your area, check this map, if they have less than 15MHZ for LTE, probably wont happen soon, or until after some auctions: https://www.google.com/fusiontables/embedviz?q=select+col4%3E%3E1+from+1QRWhoJI2BcVfirrulrStm5TbBsi6qM0X07XKTGyc&viz=MAP&h=false&lat=40.38475096831533&lng=-96.83050306627153&t=1&z=5&l=col4%3E%3E1&y=2&tmplt=2&hml=KML

  • moses cuh

    The iPhone 6 does support this right?

    • KingCobra

      Yes

    • Oliver Jackson

      Iphone 6/6+,GN4,GNEdge,N3,S5,HTC M8,LGG3,etc..

  • Jay Holm

    No news at all on the AWS-3 spectrum auction??? What the heck!

    • SonOfACook!

      Companies that are bidding on airwaves are not allowed to discuss it until after the licenses are awarded.

      These are FCC rules to the auctions.

      • Jay Holm

        Well the auction is today! How long does the auction last?

        • SonOfACook!

          I think it’s like several hours between bids; bidders can determine if they want to place a new bid.

          Actually, that’s correct. I’m at the FCC website; it appears they are in “Round 3”, and “Round 4” will begin in 11 hours.

          Do a search for “Auction 97”.

        • k

          Just read the 10×10 block in nyc went for 88million

        • SonOfACook!

          That’s likely just the current bid. But still, not surprising.

          When you have so many people packed together like sardines in a space of 11 square miles, it doesn’t cost much to start service.

          As a fun fact: Neville Ray was originally with Omnipoint; the company T-Mobile acquired in the 1990s. Omnipoint was the part of T-Mobile’s network which includes NYC.

        • k

          Neville definitely is the man at tmo.

        • SonOfACook!

          He’s real stuck up.

        • k

          Maybe. But results are results.

    • superg05

      im looking at it on site right now

      • Jay Holm

        FCC has some sort of $10bln dollar reserve.

        • k

          Search further. Predictions are the reserve maybe met and exceed. By the tune of 19B.

        • Jay Holm

          Woah! I wonder how much spectrum T-Mobile will be able to afford? I think 65mhz is up for grabs.

        • k

          3 billion dollars worth at the very least.

        • Jay Holm

          Well hopefully when bidding for perticular licenses in certain geographic areas, hopefully T-Mobile will remember that I live in Fairfield County Connecticut (Bridgeport)! Cincinnati needs a ton more spectrum also.

    • Fabian Cortez
  • Oliver Jackson

    Still waiting for S Florida area. I got wind its in WPBeach and I know its in Boca Raton. Patience for me

    • Singleweird

      cool

  • Irfan

    Today i travel a lot in Nation Capital Washington DC , T Mobile need to improve its Bandwidth + LTE coverage, most of the places don’t have LTE inside in DC , they need Wide band + low band frequency spectrum , Shame of the company if they fail in Nation Capital

    • StingRay

      Very true! DC has probably the most spotty coverage Ive seen from T-Mobile! There is a drive-thru where I have full LTE on one end and “No Service” on the other! WTF?

  • sir1jaguar

    BOISE got wideband from T-Mobile

    BUT

    List of Bankruptcy Filings Since January 2010

    All Municipal Bankruptcy Filings: 47

    General-Purpose Local Government Bankruptcy Filings (8):
    — City of Detroit
    — City of San Bernardino, Calif.
    — Town of Mammoth Lakes, Calf. (Dismissed)
    — City of Stockton, Calif.
    — Jefferson County, Ala.
    — City of Harrisburg, Pa. (Dismissed)
    — City of Central Falls, R.I.
    — Boise County, Idaho (Dismissed)

    LAST UPDATED: Nov. 7, 2014

    Wow just WOW…

    T-MOBILE, WAKE d F$%& UP!!!

    • Jay

      You do realize that the city of Boise isn’t actually located in Boise County, right? It is located in Ada County.

      • sir1jaguar

        Ada County was created by the Idaho Territorial Legislature on December 22, 1864, partitioned from Boise County. It is named for Ada Riggs, the first pioneer child born in the area and the daughter of H.C. Riggs, a co-founder of Boise.[4] Canyon County, which originally included Payette County and most of Gem County, was partitioned from western Ada County in 1891.

        They are almost the same in location, so T-mobile literally put those towers with advance microwaves to where people doesn’t like the place anymore.

        I’ve lived there for 3 years and I can literally say that if you will compare Boise to Austin is like comparing a Chevroler Aveo to a Bugatti Beyron( economy, tourism, roads, hospitals, schools buildings, big events (F1, SXSW, Octoberfest, ACL, ETC…..).

        We just need to tell T-MOBILE to prioritize who should be getting this or that 1st….

        Everyone has the right to get the latest & greatest BUT the places that get the most movers (Austin is the fastest growing city in the history of USA) & big events should be getting it 1st.

        Have a great day

        • Powsniffer0110

          …..you’re a weirdo. Lol you go and wiki something when someone tells you that you’re wrong, which you are. Haha a Chevy to w Bugatti….

        • sir1jaguar

          Weirdo in telling the truth…

          Are you that stupid?

          Yeah, Chevy to Bugatti…

          It’s a no brainer to compare BOISE & AUSTIN as I know more than you.

          I am living now in Austin, Texas (Westlake area) and no place like that in BOISE.

          By the way, is it bad for me to tell you the reality of the situation now?

        • Powsniffer0110

          No, you’re a weirdo for that fact of wikipedia searching historical county lines because you are wrong. You’re done. Keep on preeching Texas, go Romo & the cowboys! Boise isnt trying to be Texas haha. Great quiet small mountain college town.

        • sir1jaguar

          I am NOT preeching (Actually it’s preaching) TEXAS especially Austin as I’m just sharing the TRUTH as I had the chance to live in BOISE and left it 2012.

          “There’s a freaking historical county lines that Wikipedia provided and I know for years – the wideband was for the whole city of BOISE not just the county of ADA but also of BOISE and other county.”

          That’s why I shared the latest court case of bankruptcy by BOISE county.

          Now you F$&$@$&@ know?

          That’s the only thing I missed there, great quiet small college town…

          But we’re talking about implementation of latest gear by T-Mobile that should be in cities that need it the most.

          Ok???

        • Powsniffer0110

          Lolz. You corrected your own spelling. In the same post. Okay okay you win…. ;) Just so the mods don’t keep editing me post even tho I didn’t swear or say anything rude. Eh-hem like you

        • thepanttherlady

          You can debate without the insults you included in the post that got edited.

        • sir1jaguar

          I think, that’s all for me here…

          As what I’ve said already, every cities have the right to get the latest & greatest from T-Mobile but they should prioritize 1st those cities that need it the most.

          Last F1 race here in Austin (there’s almost half a million people watching it for 3 days from around the world) and data was super slow, call was busy & text messages was late. We called and T-Mobile was aware (they said) but until now they are not upgrading all the towers.

          There’s more big events that is coming in Austin every single month (SXSW, ACL, X GAMES, ETCC… and many more) that always make their service slow as a turtle…

          Have a great day to y’all

        • Scoop003

          To settle this once and for all since you’re too stupid to look at a map. Boise is about 10-20 miles from Boise county. The biggest city in Boise county is Idaho city. Boise county is mostly just empty mountain and ghost towns. Hard to collect tax revenue with very few citizens. But keep spouting how Boise is broke. Ignore how a lot of tech companies keep bringing jobs to Boise (HP and micron to name a couple). All you’re doing is sounding like an ignorant tool when you can’t even look at a map.

        • sir1jaguar

          Hahahahaha,

          I didn’t corrected my OWN spelling – you did it!

          Read your comment.

          Lol

        • sir1jaguar

          Why I’m wrong?

          In every city, there’s more than 1 county and some have more than 4…

          Means, the T-Mobile wideband is NOT just in ADA county but it is also in Boise county as it is inside BOISE city.

          For GOD sake, USE your brain…

        • Powsniffer0110

          Hey bud, check my city for me while you’re on Wikipedia please :) Riverdale Utah. Or even the actual city, Ogden. It only has one county

        • sir1jaguar

          It should be:
          In most city, there’s more than 1 county and some have more than 4..

          Austin, Texas (have Travis, Williamson,etc counties)

    • Roberto Jaimes

      Why is this relevant?

      • sir1jaguar

        Business 101 – why will you spend MORE to a place that literally filed for bankruptcy.

        People are leaving the place, especially the businesses.

        The only will stay are the ones that have the money to burn.

        Then the higher end bracket of professional will leave and they are the so called postpaid stars (paying more every single month).

        So, it is relevant…

  • Jolo813

    Noticed 15×15 LTE in San Diego…

    • Tony Fuentes-Bagalini

      WHUUUUT What part?

      • Jolo813

        Mission valley, LA mesa, santee, and chu….

  • Ares2890

    Anyone know where this wideband lte is in upstate New York?

  • Powsniffer0110

    What about SLC Utah?!?? Wtf. Way bigger market than Boise

  • monkeybutts

    I thought the target was 26 markets not 25?

  • sidekicker89

    does anyone know when we get to see how much AWS-3 spectrum T-Mobile won in the auction?