T-Mo Wideband LTE hits Las Vegas

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Today, July 16 is a great day for Las Vegas dwelling T-Mobile customers. Today is the day T-Mo officially switches on Wideband LTE in Vegas, making it only one of two markets in the Southwest region to have the carrier’s fastest networks speeds.

  • What’s Wideband LTE:
    • T-Mobile defines Wideband LTE as LTE with at least 15+15 MHz of spectrum, which has a big impact on overall performance.
    • We’re using multiple bands of spectrum to increase capacity and speeds for everyone on the T-Mobile network.
    • The 15+15 MHz LTE coverage offers theoretical peak download speeds up to 110 Mbps and theoretical peak upload speeds of 38 Mbps.
      • This allows customers to download a 90-minute HD movie in 3 and a half minutes or a whole album in 9 seconds.
    • All T-Mobile LTE devices can receive a speed boost from Wideband LTE.
    • Making the 702 one of T-Mobile’s fastest areas in the country!

As a sort of real-life expectation for those of you in Vegas, Wideband LTE Speed Tests we’ve seen most often usually fit in between 40-75Mbps download speeds. We’ve seen one or two in 20+20 areas peak at above 100Mbps, but that’s not common or consistent enough to suggest that you’ll get that kind of performance.

To celebrate the big day, T-Mo’s team made cake. But more importantly, it now means that Wideband LTE is available in a total of 17 markets across the U.S. They are as follows:

  • Atlanta, GA
  • Birmingham, AL
  • Columbus, OH
  • Dallas, TX
  • Detroit, MI
  • Honolulu, HI
  • Houston, TX
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Mobile, AL
  • Orlando, FL
  • Portland, OR
  • Seattle, WA
  • Tampa, FL
  • Upstate, NY

Let us know what performance is like in your area, particularly if your in Vegas. Have you noticed a dramatic improvement in speed recently?

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  • Tony

    Man, I was just there this past weekend and reception/speeds were horrible. I was up and down the strip though. so maybe it was just all the tall buildings interfering. Reception indoors was definitely horrible.

    • besweeet

      I was there for CES and had good signal and performance everywhere around the strip, including all of the major hotels :.

      • Tony

        I was too, but don’t recall having anything great. What phone do you use? I was and am on a Nexus 5.

        • besweeet

          I was using an iPhone 5s. I was honestly expecting erratic results, but was very impressed by everything. I stayed at a hotel on the southern tip of the Strip (wasn’t a “big-box” hotel or anything). Was getting speeds that matched or exceeded what an AT&T LG Optimus G was getting.

          The only bad experience was for me was at the Rio’s buffet, which I think might’ve been down to the 5s’s inability to make up its mind when choosing between stronger EDGE and barely any HSPA+. When it camped on HSPA+, data worked well. EDGE obviously didn’t.

      • Malachi

        T-mobile had 20+20 COWs during CES.

        • besweeet

          That was only at LVCC, though?

    • Cam Fas

      They only flipped the switch on wideband lte this morning it wasn’t active this past weekend that’s probably why it wasn’t great when you were here plus they were probably doing tower upgrades

      • Tony

        Yeah, I wish they had turned it on before the weekend so I would have had a chance to check it out. I was almost going to tweet at the CEO just for fun to see what he would say.

  • Cam Fas

    So is the iphone5s a category 3 device? My speeds are faster but I’m not pushing past 25mbs I will try tonight when it’s less congested I get more speed in once pooly congested areas but nothing crazy just yet. I wonder if id need to go back too the note3 or wait for the iphone6 if it’s cat six also I confirmed on my friends note that it is indeed 15+15 in Vegas I was hoping for 20+20 but I will enjoy the extra capacity it works much better at the airport

    • besweeet

      iPhone 5s is a cat. 3 phone. Thanks for the confirmation. Added it to bit(.)ly/tmoupgrades

      • Ryan Carnes Ofs

        What are phone category’s? What do they mean and where can I find them? Sorry I am new.

    • ronjon400

      I have iPhone 5s. Live/work orlando area. I have gotten89 down. 19 up.

      • Cam Fas

        I’d like some speed like that here

      • Fabian Cortez

        Where at exactly did you get that 89 Mbps down?

        I got 80 Mbps down on an iPhone 5s by Bithlo.

        • ronjon400

          Kissimmee. Downtown Orlando. Daytona/port orange.

  • Nick Ramacciato

    Upstate NY? What about Westchester County..? Are they just gonna skip over us again?

    • Macano

      Relax your tits dorothy

    • x2907

      To my knowledge, “Upstate NY” is really only Buffalo and Syracuse. Neither Rochester nor Albany have anything past 10+10, and Rochester only has one tower that actually has the backhaul to fully saturate 10+10. I’ve even heard that parts of Albany are still running on 5+5.

      However, VoLTE has unofficially been rolled out to both Rochester and Albany, so there’s that…

      • Stefan Naumowicz

        I’m in Albany, haven’t found anything other than 5+5, and I’m all over the place testing 10-20 times a day. If there is 10+10 here they’re hiding it very well.

  • calman29

    A little off topic but I just seen LTE light up in Shelton, WA close to where I live and tested 55 mbps download and 19 upload. Previously this area was 2g/3g only with 3g getting 2g speeds before.

  • Cellphone Chris

    Keeping my fingers crossed here in CT – They usually light up New Haven, Hartford, Bridgeport and Waterbury around the same time.

    • 50atomic

      They shutdown MetroPCS AWS CDMA at the same time so your Wideband LTE should come shortly too!

  • shadlom

    Phoenix is waitiiiing! Lol

    • 50atomic

      Unfortunately Wideband LTE cannot deployed in the Phoenix market in the near future because they don’t have enough contiguous AWS spectrum D=

      • enkay1

        I wonder if they will swap something with Verizon for that license…

  • David Lebron

    I work in orlando….where is this wideband LTE?? I’m hoping their 700MHz rollout isn’t as “broad” as this wideband coverage is :/

    • Chris C.

      I definitely notice a difference in speed when I visit Disney than the speed I get where I live in West Palm Beach. I also notice more areas on the Disney property where I get 4G & LTE service when before I was lucky to get Edge.

      • David Lebron

        I’ve noticed speed bumps here and there and hi early haven’t been to the Disney area in a little while so I’ll be sure to run a speed test when I’m in the area. Thanks :)

    • Fabian Cortez

      Travel on the east side or even to the Kissimmee and/or poinciana area.

      That’s all covered with 20×20 MHz LTE.

      • David Lebron

        I live in celebration and get great speeds downtown but it’s still really spotty. Hopefully the 700MHz rollout will help make those speeds more widespread and consistent. Thanks I’ll run a speed test next time I’m in that area

  • Marcus

    Woooo! Looks like I was right in my earlier comments! In the same Las Vegas area that I was getting 25 Mbps yesterday, now, with 15 x 15, I’m almost hitting 70… My Cox home broadband service only dreams of seeing that ;P here’s some screenshots:

    http://imgur.com/93LYnb1
    http://imgur.com/Puf3VT0

    Also, thanks, Cam, for staying on top of the news! You are doing a great job of maintaining this website and all of the (mostly) crowd-sourced information that I always look forward to reading about our beloved magenta. Thumbs up!

  • Daniel Gomez

    This is great for Vegas now they need this all over the country and I hope they include all taxes and fees if metro pcs can do it so can tmobile anyone have a comment feel free to comment

  • Aurizen

    I’m hoping philly will be next, hopefully before the fall.

    • Mike

      I’m in suburban Philly and get really poor coverage. TMO told me it’s about as good as it’s going to get for alteration the next 6 months. Speed test shadow down of 0.4 while showing LTE AND using a TMO cell fi booster. I’ hoping that what ever is going on is fixed in the next few weeks. Some say it’s the chip set on some equipment. You would think TMO would have checked this out well in advance of making changes to the network…lots of customers with new phone with the Qualcomm chip set that may be permanently screwed or at least till the phone is paid off…

      • Aurizen

        I have an iphone 5 and I don’t have any problems and the chipset is Qualcomm, T-mobile is implementing the 700 Mhz A-block spectrum soon I think within the next 6-8 months we’ll see it popping up on compatible phones.

    • Tim

      Philly (19148,19120)been have LTE for the last 6 months

      • Aurizen

        yeah, I’m waiting for the wideband LTE its gonna be great.

        • Eric

          Not with my 1 GB data cap. :(

          But hey, unlimited speed tests. :D

        • Stefan Naumowicz

          And music!!

  • NYCTheBronx

    So I left Los Angeles and moved back to San Jose and noticed my LTE speeds dropped drastically. I used to get 30mbps at berryessa road and near Independence High School. Whats going on in San Jose, T-Mobile? :/

    • monkeybutts

      Last time I was in San Jose about 3 weeks ago speeds were generally fine 20-35mbps

      • NYCTheBronx

        San Jose is really spotty like Los Angeles. So it would depend which part of San Jose you were in and the street. But thats awesome you were getting tremendous speeds. I’m still searching for good coverage areas here.

  • Mike

    I just wish I could get a consistent signal. I’m in Chester County (Exton, PA) and go from GPRS to Edge to 4G to LTE. WOrk in Devon, PA and have THE worst data and call quality. Speeds range go as low as 0.42 down and 0.74 up rarely above 4.5 on the down. I have to say that these results are WITH a Cell-Fi booster that shows that I’m on LTE. TMO says this is probably as good as it gets for my area in Exton, PA. Lucky to be in wifi almost all the time – but shouldn’t have to rely on wifi since I’m paying for data service. next will be wifi calling on Iphone making it somewhat pointless to have unlimited minutes given the poor quality of TMO voice calling in my work area. They are truly becoming the un carrier for folks like me that get poor coverage in work and home area as every thing is going to be going through wifi.

    • Jay J. Blanco

      Its really almost nothing tmobile can do until they get low band spectrum. maybe adding more towers youll get a solid experience but pentration wise no

      • maximus1901

        Wrong. Buildings don’t magically stop signals they attenuate signals. More towers equals higher signal outside the building BEFORE it’s attenuated therefore higher signal in building after attenuated.

        • Jay J. Blanco

          Buildings do block tmobile high bands. I’ve witness it first hand at College. And your repeating what I said. “better experience with new towers. Pentration wise no”

        • Stefan Naumowicz

          He’s not agreeing with you, he’s saying buildings don’t completely block a signal they just weaken it, and a signal can penetrate well if its transmitted from a close tower and at a high power… And hes right. Example: I work in a deep brick building where no carriers work that well, 2-3 LTE bars tops for at&t and vzw, gone once you go to the bottom level. sprint gets nothing anywhere. Tmo used to get none either (edge only) but they built a tower across the parking lot behind the building and we now get perfect LTE anywhere in the building. At a high enough power any frequency can penetrate anything.

        • Jay J. Blanco

          Thanks for your analysis. I didn’t know that the power effected the pentration

    • Greg Root

      Mike,

      I was just in Frazer this week and was shocked when my new t-mobile iPad hit download speeds of 50-60Mbps.

      But I completely agree with you. There is NO consistency of speeds across small geographic areas (even flat, rural ones).

  • m kay

    When is the 15×15 mhz or 20×20 mhz, reach northern california

    • David Firebaugh

      Guess you didn’t hear the news. T-Mobile isn’t going to do anything with northern Cali because everyone is moving out.

    • monkeybutts

      Probably whenever MetroPCS CDMA is shut down, Vegas just had theirs shut down like 2 weeks ago. Only the bay area and sacramento area have enough spectrum for it though. I want to say maybe stockton area as well.

    • sahib102 .

      ^this !!! im getting tired of edge >.<

  • Chris C.

    Engineering focus is on flipping the switch on a wideband LTE market than the iPhone group MMS issues plaguing everyone across the board for over two months now. Unbelievable.

  • Enoch Cheng

    As noted in the article, Hawaii has had wideband LTE for a while. It is quite impressive, speeds wise and also fairly consistent.

  • GinaDee

    I hate these spotty network advances. Yes they are great for those who live at an intersection where they can take advantage of this but seriously you are back to GPRS or worse (GSM only) just outside the strip.

    • eanfoso

      You have your technologies mixed, edge/gsm is better than gprs

      • GinaDee

        Do you know what GSM-only means? It means voice with no data service.

        It means signal bars without any data denomination.

        • TMOTECH

          That doesn’t exist on the T-Mobile network. If it is not 3g or LTE it should be Edge. It may switch to a G when you are talking on the phone but back to E when you are done. If not there is something wrong either with your phone or the network.

        • Nick

          No, she’s right. I have had my phone switch to GPRS multiple times whileach traveling.

        • Omar Boyer

          nothing wrong with her phone just like nick ibhad the same thing happen come to Los angeles hop on the 710 once u outside the city u do get GPRS as of 2014 yes u do , while att n verizon have full bars Lte .

        • Trevnerdio

          I’ve hit pockets of straight GSM before. Outside of Dothan, AL. I did everything to make sure it was my phone because I couldn’t believe it myself. Not even GPRS…it was bizarre.

  • bob

    Chicago can’t get wideband LTE HUH? :(

    • ChristianMcC

      I’d say it makes sense, much larger city.

    • Louie

      15×15 is the max for Chicago due to licenses.

  • Nick

    A little off topic but has anyone that has a prepaid plan (specifically the $30 one) noticed that t-mobile isn’t limiting their Hotspot usage? I used well over 100MB today and haven’t been stopped yet….

    • eanfoso

      It’s a 5 gig plan bro lol either hotpot or phone

    • Justin Johnson

      MyTmobile shows none of my hot spot usage, I’m on post paid.

      • monkeybutts

        It only shows tether info on the mobile app or ma.t-mobile.com (ma = my account)

    • Stefan Naumowicz

      $30 plan doesn’t get hotspot at all. Are you rooted, or using an unlocked phone?

      • Nick

        1) On the my t-mobile app it used to show how many megs out of 100 that I had used for the hotspot. 2) I am rooted, but I just use the T-mobile hotspot app that came with the phone.

        • Stefan Naumowicz

          Rooted with a custom ROM? I work for T-Mobile any customer that buys a phone and tries to use hotspot they cant

        • Nick

          No, I’m on stock Jelly Bean. And actually, the hotspot used to not work, period. There wasn’t anything I could do to get it to work. Then, one random day this week, It just started working. I have no idea why.

  • tbloz

    .. wooohooo whatevs.. Yawwwnnnnn

  • Miguel Sanchez

    Wideband LTE sucks in East dallas (75126) please improve the network here thanks.

  • ChristianMcC

    Going to Vegas this weekend, so looking forward to checking it out!

  • travis

    I am in Las Vegas and this would explain crappy service the last week. Tho, once I saw the news, I tested it out on my Note 3, I got 5 down and 4 up near Tropicana and US95. I have a tower about 1 block from me…

    • Hayes

      Tavis I’m in Las Vegas also and I was having crappy LTE for the past couple weeks. I thought I was going insane lol. Can’t say I see any noticeable improvement .

  • Stefan Naumowicz

    Where in upstate NY is there wideband? I’m in Albany, the state’s capital and only somewhat sizeable city in the whole region and we’ve only got 5+5.

  • Marcelo_L

    3 cities in Florida with W-LTE, none of which have the population density of South Florida.
    Splendid! Way to go TMo.

    What they really need to do is turn on LTE through the Florida Turnpike.

    That, and finally make their coverage more consistent in South Florida.

    • Krali

      I’m in Miami, agree on the south florida coverage…I really want the WLTE, but not sure about the consistency issue. I’ve had no problems at all receiving consistent coverage.

  • Joey Soloo

    I have yet to see it here in Detroit….TMo full of it

    • Jermaine Coakley Sr.

      Agreed, having seen it at all yet

    • Almeuit

      I’ve seen it in Jacksonville FL… 50-60 Mbps down.. About 10-15 up.

    • Andrew Carbanaro

      The highest i hit was 64 mbps download, and 40 upload, in Midtown Detroit, Just a a few days ago on my iPhone 5s.

  • http://www.larismedia.com Troy Glancy

    I wish they would stop trying to make LTE faster and deploy at least 4G in some 2G area’s such as North Carolina.

    • Krali

      Fuck that, I’m in Miami and I want my 100+mbps

    • Ordeith

      With coverage so poor, speed in a few areas might be all they got to market with.
      Of course, there’s nothing like blowing through your 2-3GB high speed monthly data allotment in less than 6 minutes either. As they expand these speeds to more areas they might want to consider restructuring their data plans.

      • http://www.larismedia.com Troy Glancy

        Unlimited plan fixes that.

        • Ordeith

          Not really. Unlimited still comes with rather limited tethering. The speeds aren’t all that useful for a phone, tethering is where they shine and you will use your tethering allotment up in less than 10 minutes with these speeds on an “unlimited” plan.

        • UMA_Fan

          Choose a tethering plan based on your needs?

      • hit_the_lights

        You couldn’t be anymore clueless.

    • Raiterio Patterson

      Where in NC? I live next to Crowders Mtn State Park and speeds are so so. 5+5Mhz from my ookla speed test. Charlotte, Wilmington, Matthews, Greensboro, Huntersville, Raleigh, Durham, Fayetteville, Chapel Hill, Gastonia and even Asheville have 5+5 LTE but unfortunately, Stanley, Lincolnton, Shelby,Cherryville, Kings Mountain (where I live) have EDGE or no coverage at all.

      • http://www.larismedia.com Troy Glancy

        Moyock and Currituck county.

        • Raiterio Patterson

          I checked out Moyock on Sensorly, and all the way with up to Chesapeake is EDGE. My condolences. What phone do you have? You only have 2 options: wait & see what happens or switch to another carrier, or call CS report the issue. Most of the time T-Mobile doesn’t know which areas have no coverage, so tell them about it

        • Troy Glancy

          Yeah, I live in the heart of Chesapeake. In my area I have full LTE which is great but if I drive about 10 mins south such as going to NC 1 bar 4G (non LTE) or 5 bars EDGE. This area even has a Target, Walmart, and million dollar homes. Guess that area doesn’t have enough customers for T-mobile to upgrade and / or the millionaires are most likely with Verizon haha.

          I have the Note 3.

          I just called CS and they said they don’t have any updates when they’re going to switch the 2G to 4G down there. They said I could visit a store down there but they don’t even have one haha.

        • UMA_Fan

          Well I guess the positive is if it’s native T-Mobile coverage (not roaming) it should have LTE coverage by this time next year at the latest.

        • Chad

          You can add Davie county as well patiently waiting…luckily we do have both 2g and 3g…but man LTE would be nice!

  • Jason Crumbley

    Haven’t been able to tell a difference. Data stills stalls out at times.

  • Cam Fas

    Just used a note 3 and got 45 mbs and used my iPhone 5s and only got 29 mbs may look at that gs3 that category4 lte chipset makes a difference or apple better hurry up they always take their time maybe the note4

  • Jared Geigər

    I live on the Las Vegas strip. I verified 15+15 but speeds are lacking. 5 mbps down, 11 up but 35 ms pings on speed tests to T-Mobile’s own Riverside and Irvine, CA servers. Even slower to the Switch Las Vegas test server off network. Looks like backhaul is saturated somewhere.

  • vegas

    Drove around the city in Vegas, at one point I had no service. Highest speed I got was 8 megs around my house. 95/trop. I did not go to the strip, I will test them out once I get a job on strip. Went to Downtown area, 2megs down, and then I went to Jones/95 area and nothing. Widespread crapola. Im on a Note 3, I will try to see if there is an update to my phone or not.

  • Mike

    not sure why TMO keeps touting this LTE and fastest 4g network crap when it’s network is so inconsistent. In my area I can go from GRSP, to EDGE, to 4g and LTE all in the space of 1 block. Speeds are as low as 0.4 but never above 5. Super crappy voice quality, slow data and lots of dropped calls. TMO says I have robust LTE coverage (19380 and 19333) and the engineers confirm no problem with the network. I’m thinking TMO is all hype with poor deliverables. Just FIX the problems and stop all the false advertising. I’m simply not getting what I paid for! Sounds like another FTC issue may be coming your way.

    • tegz

      where do you live? i’m in LA county and i get double digit LTE speeds almost everywhere except in the mountains where i get nothing lol. highest speeds i’ve ever seen was 50mbps around UCLA. voice quality is great and i get very few dropped calls. when i visit vegas it’s a totally different story.

  • joehendu

    When will Scottsdale/Phoenix get Wideband LTE?