LTE pops up briefly in Cincinnati, OH [UPDATE: Speed Test]

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Over the past few months, T-Mobile been working hard behind the scenes to get its 20+20 network up and running in a few major areas, boosting LTE speeds up to between 60-100Mbps in Dallas. But, it’s also still on its LTE rollout across the country.

Although it’s not on the official list of markets covered yet, we’ve had one of our readers get in touch from Cincinnati, OH with evidence that LTE is being lit up. The screenshot (above) was taken at the university of Cincinnati campus – although the weather app shows Finneytown (not too far away) – and he was lucky enough to have a short taste of LTE before it disappeared again.

Like I said, this isn’t a big network power on. It’s more than likely an engineer testing and getting it ready. But, at least we know the city is going to be among the next to receive the US’ fastest LTE network upgrade.

Be sure to get in touch if LTE lights up in your area, or if you notice a massive speed bump on your device. Also, if you happen to be in Cincinnati and have seen the same, or managed to actually used the network to perform a speed test, give us a shout.  Any sightings or information should be sent to cam@tmonews.com.

UPDATE: 

A Speedtest done just North of Cincinnati shows the network is usable, pulling speeds of just under 15Mbps

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  • AlexC

    I have been using LTE in the Northern Cincinnati Suburb of West Chester for a few weeks now. I have seen 13mb/6mb up there during speed tests. It sure would be nice to see it all over the city though!

    • Chris Fisher

      I replied to another post (off topic on that one) that I saw it for a few seconds before I crossed over to 4G land. I was just passing Union Centre on 75 South and before I could speed test my wife’s iPhone and my G Flex switched back to 4G. I’ve been checking off and on while working downtown (5th and Main) but it has not come up here. I am glad to see that I am not the only one that has Finneytown on their weather widget!

      • Bori

        Yeah, as soon as I cross the river into downtown, my weather widget brings up Finneytown, what? a good 7 miles north of downtown? it’s never really said Cincinnati, that I can remember.

        • JB45

          off topic but that’s like facebook….anywhere in Cincinnati you post it comes up Clifton.

        • Bori

          LOL.. that is so true

      • sidekicker89

        Don’t you hate it when people like that can’t stay on topic? ;) hahaha! I was just excited !

    • Nick

      Yeah, same here.

  • http://www.androidheadlines.com/ Alexander Maxham

    Dat signal though.

    • besweeet

      Looks normal during testing. Only a matter of time until it’s really live.

    • Paul

      Weirdly enough the signal doesn’t go to full bars very often. When I got the Kitkat update for the Note 3 I got an extra bar on the signal for LTE coverage.

      It still works when it drops to 4G/3G for a phone call.

  • Whiskers

    Yehaw , best news for me in a long time.
    Everytime i go south to Cincinnati it drops to E/3G , maybe we can get some LTE on a regular basis and enjoy it.

  • besweeet

    Still waiting for the forum to start again. Could make a thread specific for new LTE sightings. Especially useful for the 2G -> LTE work :).

    • Mike

      Agreed here!

  • Bori

    According to Sensorly the exit onto the Norwood Lateral picked up a blip of Lte. I drove by to see if I could re-create it but I was not successful, I am assuming it must have been a test. I did however pick up LTE at Tri-County Mall.

  • Nick

    I’ve had LTE a little north of Cincinnati (downtown) for the past 2 weeks. First I thought it was a test, but I guess not

  • Stephen

    Since the beginning of March I regularly see LTE on my Moto X in West Chester. Best speedtests I’ve gotten so far is 24MB down and 8mb up. Sometimes my phone goes back to 4G so I guess its not baked yet…

  • Jeffrey Wang

    Sounds like when LTE briefly popped up last year in Dallas (before it was deployed), around Old Denton Rd and Hebron Rd in Carrollton, whilst on Sam Rayburn. But of course, TmoNews fails to cover it again!

    • Eric

      I’m sure TmoNews can’t cover every specific LTE site being turned on at any given moment, unless they have T-Mobile’s software.

      • Jeffrey Wang

        Considering the DFW metroplex is the 4th largest in the US (population-wise), and Cincinnati is like 1/7th the size of DFW, it was quite unfortunate it was not covered. This is nothing compared to LTE being spotted briefly in Dallas.

  • Jaramie Black

    I am getting these kind of issues in Wilmington, Nc. Very few streets actually have lte while the rest of the city has HSPA+. The maps are wrong on tmobiles website because it says we are fully covered LTE city. This is not that case.

    • John Brown

      The map shows 3G in Batavia, OH yet my old Lumia 521 only showed EDGE

      • Brian

        It’s still 2g there I live in owensville and it’s shitty I have the lg g2

      • Jaramie Black

        make sure you call tmobile and let them know! I wont stop calling until tmobile fixes this.

        • John Brown

          I called them every week for 5 months till I said f this crap and left for cricket then Verizon

  • Bt

    I’m anxious as anyone for LTE here, but so far the only area lit up is west Chester. It’s not inside the cincinnati loop. All of what is truly cincinnati and the heart of the population is still waiting. I like that there’s at least hope though.

  • sidekicker89

    I live in Dayton Ohio. We have had LTE for awhile so it’s exciting to see our friends to the south get LTE. It’s also worth noting that Bloomington/Normal , Illinois is seeing LTE as well!

  • x3r0

    Here in Middletown Ohio, I to am picking up LTE. The signal is rather weak and showing 1 bar, but it does show that I am picking it up. Glad to see the roll outs happening.

    • sidekicker89

      Mark it on Sensorly! :)

  • SamIam

    I just noticed LTE in the small town I live in, New London, CT. I also have LTE in Waterford, CT which is the next town over. I figured we’d get it next year since we are a tiny little town but the other day LTE popped up. I’ll try to remember to get a screen shot when I get back home.

  • Mike

    Should start a thread as soon as smaller markets that are now 2G/Edge get 4GLTE. How cool would it be to live in one of those markets and you get to skip right over 3G? Yeah, yeah yeah, you had to suffer for a long time. But seriously, can’t wait to see this happen…

  • Anthony

    We have had LTE in Odessa, Texas and Midland, Texas for about a month.

    • Chris-Michael Junichi Kennedy

      Do you know if fort Stockton area has T-Mobile coverage?

      • Anthony

        I’m not sure.

  • dontsh00tmesanta

    nothing yet in madera ca

    • Eric00

      Are you familiar with Porterville, CA? It’s a relatively small city and LTE has been popping up on my phone every now and then. Did a speed test yesterday at about 5 and got 21 mbps up and 10 mbps down

      • dontsh00tmesanta

        Yes I am lol

        Luckybutt is this a new addition

        • Eric00

          No not yet, they haven’t put it on the website that LTE is launched here. I think they’re in the testing phases
          I was getting it almost everywhere in town even my house except for in the central part of town yesterday and today its only been popping up here and there lol

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          Kk

        • Eric00

          Nope?

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          What question are you asking

        • Eric00

          Sorry that was an accident. Lol

    • grod46

      According to this Sensorly map they are at least testing LTE in madera

      http://www.sensorly.com/map/4G/US/USA/T-Mobile/lte_310260#q=Madera%2C+CA%2C+USA

      Just hope that Firebaugh, Ca gets LTE too (I can only wish lol)

      • dontsh00tmesanta

        Wtf really I always pass by there maybe I’ll stop for a bit tomorrow at ave 16

        If sprint can have lte there why not tmo

      • dontsh00tmesanta

        No lte in that area

  • SamIam

    Here are the screen shots from New London CT.
    The fastest I’ve seen so far was 22Mbps
    http://i.imgur.com/k3b3zky.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/D94NkDC.jpg

  • brand1399

    Almost 40 download and 21 upload here in DC area.

  • Jetbo

    15×15 in Columbus

    • Eric00

      How do I check if my city is using 5×5 or 10×10 LTE?

      • Jetbo

        On my phone I know if you press *#0011# it will give you a DL bw number that’s what it is for the GS4 at least.

        • Eric00

          Okay thanks! I have a GS4 too.

        • Tommy

          I just checked mine. It looks I am 20×20. Right next to bw it says 20. I just posted above with the speed test of 79.14 down and 16.99 up

  • Bruce

    15mb down 3 up on regular 4G Network no LTE in sight yet, but from what im seeing from some readers we are doing pretty good for a small border town.

  • Tommy

    I live in Allen Texas (north of plano tx and about 20 mins north of Dallas ) I ran speed test yesterday and I got 79.14 up and 16.99 down. Ran the test 4 times in row and got the same numbers! It’s just amazing!

  • a guest

    So far the best results I’ve gotten in Miami is 59 down and 14 up

  • Zack

    It popped up here in Brainerd, MN over the weekend and I’ve been getting about 40megabits down and 20 up. This is a pretty rural area, so this is awesome. This was on a Nexus 4 with lte-enabled modem.

  • TylerCameron

    Why is signal on LTE far worse than signal on HSPA? This has been the case everywhere I’ve been (I live in Virginia Beach if that matters)
    It isn’t my phone cause I had about 4 Galaxy Note II replacements that experienced the same and my One is the same as well.

    • David

      It is because of the bandwith differences they release each on. It is quite possible (while I don’t know for sure) that the HSPA is on a 1700 or 1900 band whereas the LTE is on 2100 band. This would lead to you having a shorter range (but more capacity) when on lte vs HSPA.

      • TylerCameron

        I thought LTE was on 1700/2100 (AWS band 4)
        And they wouldn’t entirely explain the fact that in an area, where I know a tower has LTE and HSPA, I can look at -65- -75dBm on HSPA while I’ll see -80- -90dBm on LTE.

        • David

          I mean that is the goal. It is not necessarily a certain that is what all areas are getting you can check in your phone’s settings possibly. I posted below if you hit *#0011# it will tell you the EARFCN_dl which is the central frequency you are operating on. As well as LTE DL BW which will let you know if you are 5 5, 10 10….etc for bandwidth.

        • TylerCameron

          That’s a Samsung-only dialer code :/
          I wish it were possible to get information like this on stock android.

        • Mario

          From my experience if your on 5+5 your signal will always be lower than hspa but once they go 10+10 it should be even in signal with Hspa now once your area goes 20+20 then that signal should be amazingly strong

        • TylerCameron

          I went to a T-Mobile store and did a dialer code on an iPhone 5s anditbwas connected to 10+10mhz.
          I didn’t check HSPA signal there, though.
          Do you think it’s likely that T-Mobile broadcasts LTE on a lower power than HSPA?
          And I know the area I mentioned earlier where one router has LTE and HSPA, I know it must be 10+10mhz because I seer 30+Mbps there on LTE.

        • David

          Speed is not an indication of bandwidth, too many other things to take into consideration such as concurrent use. T-Mobile has a ton of spectrum between 1700-2100 eventually they want that all to be LTE so it is possible it could be on a lower point. All I can attest to is that the LTE I have been seeing where I live is around 2100.

        • TylerCameron

          I was under the impression that 1700 and 2100 were used separately for download and upload?

        • TMOguy

          More bandwidth – on LTE – will give you more speed (larger pipe is the analogy). However – more bandwidth does not give you more signal strength. LTE signal strength will always be about -20dBm lower then your equivalent HSPA+/UMTS or GSM signal because your phone reports RSRP for LTE and RSSI for HSPA+ and GSM. Please google the difference between the two for more explanation.

        • David

          Ya I had no idea :-/. I just switched to T-Mobile in November (after an 8 year hiatus with sprint) and I only have had try it on the GS4. There might an App that can tell you the information. I just never tried to look for one.

        • TMOguy

          That’s because for HSPA+ you’re looking at the RSSI and for LTE you are looking at the RSRP. Please google both those terms, it would take way too long to explain here. The short answer: The dBm reading for LTE will always be about -20 dBm lower then the exact same signal strength on HSPA+. That’s totally normal and expected.

        • Jay J. Blanco

          LTE is on 1700/2100
          HSPA is on 1900mhz
          1700/2100 HSPA is being decommissioned for LTE
          1900 will run HSPA

      • TMOguy

        No, it’s not.. LTE and HSPA+ are completely different technologies. Un-refarmed HSPA+ runs on the exact same frequency as LTE (AWS or 1700/2100). Bandwith has nothing to do with signal strength.

    • Jay J. Blanco

      Because LTE 1700/2100
      HSPA is now 1900 in many areas.
      1900mhz HSPA is more reliable then LTE

  • Chris Hilbert

    Anyone near Hillsboro, OH? Would love to get my sister on magenta. Huge dead spot according to the map.

    • AndrewA

      I live in Blanchester, and that is pretty much the end of T-Mobile coverage if you are heading east on 28 towards New Vienna. I go to Hillsboro frequently and have to use my AT&T phone there. My TMO phone is a paperweight.

      • John Brown

        I want to see 3G in Hillsboro and 4G in Batavia. I left T-Mo for Verizon because it was only EDGE anywhere east of Eastgate

        • Danny Alvarez

          You might want to switch back soon, they plan to upgrade all their EDGE to LTE by the end of 2014.

      • Chris Hilbert

        Hoping the pop up coverage there. Wonder how often they update the coverage map.

    • sidekicker89

      I know exactly where Hillsboro is lol. There is no T-Mobile coverage there at all. There has been an LTE sighting in Wilmington, Ohio so there is hope! We should put pressure on T-Mobile to build more towers in Ohio.

  • sinergy

    I can say working for a telephone company we have received bids for upgrades of several sites from tmobile. They are not on the “list” It looks like they are getting pricing for about every site. They are requesting several options.

    • vrm

      What do you mean by not being on the list ?

      Are these ‘sites’ you refer to nationwide ?

    • Baz

      What sort of upgrades were they inquiring about?

      What sort of work does your company do?

  • Brook

    Huntsville, AL -> 41Mbps down, 14Mbps up with 46ms ping to Chattanooga EPB Fiber… I ran the test code that David suggested eariler *#0011# on my S4 and got the following:
    LTE RRC: Band4
    Earfcn_dl: 2350
    LTE DL BW: 10MHz

    • TMOguy

      Yep, so you have 10+10 mhz bandwidth there.. The EARFCN is the frequency it’s transmitting on. Google ‘EARFCN calculator’ if you want to know the actual frequency (EARFCN is a channel number that corresponds with an actual frequency). Yeah that test code screen is super cool… I use it all the time. So glad we can access that on our samsung phones.

      • Eric00

        Do you get that info by dialing that number on your GS4 or what?

        • TMOguy

          You get that info by dialing the *#0011# on the dialer pad of your samsung phone… I have a note 3 but I have seen others here say it works on a GS4.

    • Baz

      Does anyone know how I can get that information on my MOTO X? I tried the code, but it didn’t seem to recognize it.

      Thx

  • BMETFerg

    LTE is live in Fairfield Township which is just East of Hamilton OH.

  • JB45

    If someone does see LTE South of 275 can you get a screen shot *#0011# so we can see if it is Band 4 AWS or PCS Band 2 and sensorly it. I haven’t personally seen LTE South of 275.

  • Myles

    I wonder how did they do this because they will have to either take down their DC-HSPA+ network to 21.1 mbits because they don’t have the spectrum in Cinicinnati.

    • Bori

      Wish we had more than HSPA+21 here in Cincinnati, but unfortunately we dont.

  • nycplayboy78

    Well here is T-Mobile’s LTE information for Washington, DC

    LTE RRC:CONN BAND:4
    PLMN:310-260 TAC:20226
    BW:10MHz PCI:24
    EARFCN(D/U):2250/20250
    RSRP:-90.5 SNR:16.6 RSRQ:-9.0
    PA STATE:3(APT),HDET:0
    STATE:REGISTERED SUB:0
    SERVICE: AVAILABLE
    REJECT:0, LU_ATT#: 0
    TMSI: 0xbc75a69d
    IMEI Certi: PASS

    T-Mobile’s alphabet soup for their LTE here in Washington, DC….Enjoy :)

    Oh yeah I am using the Samsung Galaxy Note 3

    • TMOguy

      For those that are wondering:
      RRC: Radio Resource Control. State of the network connection. Band: LTE band
      PLMN: Public land mobile network. Identifies who you are connected to (310-260 is T-Mobile) TAC: tactical area code. Just like LAC in a GSM/UMTS network.
      BW: how much bandwidth each way you have. PCI: Physical cell ID. That’s the ID of the cell site you’re connected to. If you want to know when you switch to a new site, watch for that number to change.
      EARFCN: channel number of your connection (corresponds to frequency)
      RSRP: Measure of signal strength in LTE. On top of cell site is usually about -70 or so.
      SNR: Sigal to noise ratio of the signal. Hgher is better. Top will be 30.0
      RSRP: Measure of the sgnal quality. Lower (actually, higher negative) number is better. Never seen it better then -3 (on top of site). When it gets to -12,-14 signal is pretty crappy.
      The rest of it is not terribly useful…

  • Brian

    I live in Milford ohio and only still 4g and 2g

  • Bori

    All I know is that signal and data speeds have been very erratic here at work in Florence, KY, for the past 2 weeks. I often loose connection or get switched back and forth between 4G and 2G. I’m just hoping deployment is on it’s way here in the near future.

    • Chad Dalton

      yea same thing here in Mocksville, NC…i hope they are working on it very soon! I’m still just excited to know that, LTE is on the way! Yes!

      • erick

        Lucky, I lose service in my campus :(

  • joshua

    4g lte in springfield , Missouri just got the signal around 3:15pm on march 26. Right now speeds are at 10meg but the network looks really flaky right now, doubt it will stay up. Probably a test

    • Baz

      That’s awesome. Please keep us posted as to what happens with the signal. Thx.

      • joshua

        it was weird when i went to my school i lost the LTE signal, when i went 2 blocks south i got the signal and then another couple of blocks lost it again. very weird

        • Baz

          It’s probably one tower that’s lit up and is in a testing phase for the time being, that’s why its so shaky. Expect a stronger signal once more towers are lit up.

        • Joshua

          Yea I’m getting full signal at my house now 25-30meg down 6-10 meg up

        • Austin

          Are you coming to LTE straight from 2G or 3G/4G?

        • joshua

          3g/4g

    • Jacob

      Getting 30 down and 11 up here on south side of Springfield MO

  • Austin

    T-Mobile’s coverage map indicates LTE all over Cincinnati….

    • Bori

      You are correct lol. But unfortunately I think it’s a fluke, I haven’t picked up a thing. Unless they are gonna flip the switch later.

      • naber229

        its coming they are upgrading towers all over even in NKY

        • Bori

          Yeah, I’ve been getting some nice DC-HSPA + speeds at home. Hopefully LTE won’t be too far behind. :-)

  • Anthony Fambry

    My buddy over in Fairfield has been picking up live LTE, it’s coming and soon guys!!

  • Digz

    LTE just popped up downtown for about 15 minutes then reverted back to 4G. Looks like it might be going live downtown soon!