AT&T to offer up to $450 to T-Mobile customers to switch carriers

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T-Mobile is wreaking havoc in AT&T’s head. Even before Uncarrier 4.0 has gone official, AT&T has struck pre-emptively to offer Tmo users a way out of their contracts. Similar to what we’d already heard from our sources regarding T-Mobile’s plans for phase 4, AT&T will offer up to $450 per line for customers wanting to switch. This $450 is made up partly by trade-in of an old phone, with the difference made up in form of a credit rebate.

“Beginning Jan. 3, under the limited-time offer, T-Mobile customers who switch to AT&T can trade-in their current smartphone for a promotion card of up to $250, which can be used toward AT&T products and services.  Trade-in values will vary based on make, model and age of the smartphone, but many of the latest and most popular smartphones will qualify for a value of $250.  T-Mobile customers can receive an additional $200 credit per line when they transfer their wireless service to AT&T and choose an AT&T NextSM plan, buy a device at full retail price or activate a device they currently own.1″

In short, if you want to leave T-Mobile for a company that’s scared of T-Mobile, and you have a contract or EIP to pay off, you will be able to do so from today. That is – of course – if you want to end up with a higher monthly cost, and a JUMP! clone plan that’s nowhere near as good and on a carrier that’s run out of ideas. Instead, copies a more innovative company to try and stay relevant.

On the plus side, it’s awesome to see that even rumors of a T-Mobile move can cause AT&T to panic and wet their pants.

Full press release here.

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  • VapidRapidRabbit

    Hopefully this forces T-Mobile to do something about their lackluster data coverage. They still only have EDGE here while AT&T has HSPA+ and LTE blanketing this region.

    • schweddyballs

      T-mobile IS doing something about it, these kinds of improvements don’t happen overnight sir.

      • Moby

        They’ve been too busy upgrading to LTE and they keep neglecting all of the 2G areas. So no, they’re not really doing anything about it sir.

    • Spanky

      I’m surprised your comment didn’t get downvoted.

  • shadlom

    Now why the f would i switch from T-Mobile to at&t? Lol

    • Spanky

      Coverage.

      • donnybee

        While that’s true, I’m sure there was a reason they chose T-Mobile in the first place above AT&T. My guess is that most people with lackluster coverage will default to Sprint or an MVNO.. Another option that won’t completely r@pe your wallet and isn’t as restrictive.

      • Mystery Man

        ATT awful coverage

        • Spanky

          According to OpenSignal maps, it’s considerably better than T-Mobile.

  • Paul

    Death Star is in full panic mode …..LOL

  • Cellphone Chris

    I understand that widespread HSPA+ and LTE coverage are issues that T-Mobile needs to address to compete effectively in more markets. What surprises me is the number of customers outside of metro areas that are complaining about it on this site. I wonder what type of comparison shopping they did prior to choosing T-Mobile? Was the network speed a deciding factor when signing up? If I lived in an area where only EDGE speeds were available from T-Mobile, I’d probably not choose them until something changed.

    My state (CT) is certainly secondary, and launches 6-12 months behind the first markets for most network upgrades. I’m willing to deal with that due to a combination of the excellent customer service experiences I’ve had with T-Mobile, and the competitive pricing.

    The best rule of thumb when buying ANYTHING is to decide what’s most critical to your satisfaction and to then prioritize the order of importance.

    • Paul

      I’ve often wondered about the research they did prior to purchasing their phone. I’m all for expanding the coverage. When I was under contract I would research the coverage, prices, etc. every time my contract was up for renewal.

    • Luis Espinal

      Well said! No single wireless provider is perfect for everyone it seems everyone forgets that they need to do research before picking a service.this is why I never pay attention to all those who complain about T Mobile service in their area.I live in Connecticut as well and I always have HSPA or LTE anywhere down the road from my house to Washington DC, so it doesn’t make sense to me to switch to a carrier that provides the same service at higher the price. Down with the Magenga h8rs.

    • VapidRapidRabbit

      Some of us had had service from T-Mobile for nearly a decade, you know, before they even launched UTMS, when all they had was EDGE.

    • donnybee

      I would’ve thought that within the first day or two – or even the first week – anyone would’ve realized that their service isn’t meeting their needs and they probably shouldn’t stick with that option. It’s strange to me..

      However, as much as it doesn’t make sense to me for someone to decide to stick with a service that has no coverage, if T-Mobile didn’t have customers in the areas with lackluster service there wouldn’t be a relevant need to expand coverage except for gaining entirely new customers. But the reality is if you choose to get T-Mobile service where it’s not so great, you’re going to get T-Mobile service that’s not so great. If you don’t want it, don’t choose it..money also talks.

  • Paul

    ” This $450 is made up partly by trade-in of an old phone, with the difference made up in form of a credit rebate.” AND I have to sign up for their overpriced AT&T” NEXT” service? Overpriced plans, $300 for a new Note 3, and overpriced limited data plans? Even with “up to” $450?
    How about “no!”

    My Note 3 is unlocked and I can move it to their network easily, and I’m not giving it up. Their “NEXT” program is not a deal as it is overpriced. I, personally, don’t want to give up my phone, let alone unlimited data…which I can tether unlimitedly.
    However, this proves that Magenta is starting to hurt AT&T. Basically, Uncarrier is working.

    • 21stNow

      You’re combining many things that wouldn’t apply in this case. I get that you wouldn’t like the AT&T alternative, but don’t present false information to make your case.

      If you are on AT&T Next, there is no two-year contract. It wouldn’t be $300 for a Note 3, it would be $725 if you didn’t upgrade in a year on Next or $435 if you upgraded in a year on Next.

      You are also comparing things that you can’t get within guidelines on T-Mobile. T-Mobile does not offer unlimited mobile hotspot. If you are working around the system to get it, so be it. But you can’t use this as an advantage over AT&T because neither carrier allows it.

      • Paul

        – It doesn’t say that the NEXT program is contract free. If it does then the AT&T page I looked at is incorrect. As well as the press release I just checked.
        – For a 2 year contract you can get the Note 3 for $300. However, IF the contract price isn’t available with the NEXT program then you are correct on the pricing. This seems to revolve around their 2 year contract and how it ties to the NEXT program.

        I’m not presenting false information. I’m presenting information based on what I found, and short of going into a AT&T store and bugging them for details. . I’m not including links because this info was found with a simple google search.

        – The next program is more expensive than T-Mobiles.
        – AT&T offers 2 yr. contracts, and they don’t have to tie into the NEXT program.
        – AT&T doesn’t offer unlimited data.

        As for the unlimited tethering; my phone is unlocked and rooted. Lucky for me I found how to get unlimited tethering. I never said T-Mobile offered it. I said I can tether unlimited, and most users that are rooted know how to find this information. You can check XDA for that.

        Don’t come at me as if I’m trolling and spreading false information for my own amusement. However, if you do have a source that specifically says the NEXT program is contract free then I’d like to see it so I can be informed of this. My sources, currently, say otherwise. I’d rather have facts than send out false information and I’m open to facts to say otherwise to my information.

        • 21stNow

          The Next program requires a payment agreement not a two-year service contract. The below is copied from the FAQs on AT&T’s website:

          Is a contract required with AT&T Next?

          AT&T Next requires that you sign an installment agreement to pay
          for the smartphone over 20 or 26 monthly payments. If you cancel your
          wireless service, the remaining unpaid balance on the smartphone is due.
          A Wireless Customer Service Agreement (voice and data service) is
          required.

          As for the unlimited mobile hotspot, if you can do this with a modification on T-Mobile, you can do it with a modification on AT&T for those that are still on the unlimited data plan. Either way, you presented it as if it is an advantage to being on T-Mobile. It violates T-Mobile’s Terms of Service, so it can’t be rightfully presented as an advantage.

          I didn’t call you out for trolling. I came at you with the respect for a different opinion, but I did point out the things that were presented in your post that were not true.

        • Paul

          Wouldn’t a “Wireless Customer Service Agreement” be the 2 year contract, if they are a new customer? If so, they we are both, technically, right. After the contract is up, and there’s no renewal, then they are out of contract and using NEXT. Otherwise, you have to have AT&T wireless service, which is contractual, to use the NEXT service.

          It didn’t read that way to me. Then again text doesn’t give us that ability sometimes. I apologize for snapping in my rebuttal, but to say my statement was false without backing it up with facts doesn’t make your claim true.

          I’m not sure the data would work the same way. The setting essentially tricks the system into thinking I’m using the data on a mobile device as opposed to tethering. AT&T doesn’t offer unlimited data, which is an advantage over AT&T. Without AT&T offering unlimted data the trick wouldn’t work. The focus there was on the unlimited data Magenta offers over AT&T, and I was making a jab at the fact that I can use the unlimited data plan to do unlimited tethering.

        • 21stNow

          The wireless customer service agreement is just an agreement for service. It does not specify a length of time and is not a two-year contract.

          The text below is from AT&T’s press release, which shows that a customer can’t get the device credit with a two-year contract:

          1. Requires qualified trade-in. Not all devices
          are eligible for trade-in or will receive full $250 value. Promotion
          Cards may only be used toward purchases of eligible AT&T products
          & services or to pay your wireless bill. Additional promo card
          terms may apply in select locations. Switcher Bill Credit requires
          port-in of eligible T-Mobile wireless number and qualified activation.
          Must maintain svc & good standing status for 90 days to receive
          credit. Credit rec’d w/in 3 bill cycles. Tmo customer must take a Mobile
          Share Value Plan. Credit not available on 2-year contracts. Offer
          includes participating Dealers and National Retail. Additional terms and
          conditions apply.

        • Paul

          Okay, I had to dig a bit to find the right answer. They don’t tell you that they have a different setup for the NEXT program, but it can include a 2 year contract regardless of this promotion. It’s called “AT&T Mobile Share Value Plans” Here’s the detail it says, “*Available with AT&T Next or if you purchase your smartphones at full retail price. You’re also eligible if you’re out of contract or bring your own device.”
          They also have this step, the * is the quote above.:
          Step 2: Add smartphones to your plan
          – No annual service contract* – +$25/month
          – Two-year agreement – +$40/month
          So you can join this style of plan under a 2 year contract, but your quote says the promo doesn’t offer the credit if you choose a 2 year contract. Again, we are both right in that you can go with a contract or without. however, you need the non-contract to get the credit.

          Try shopping via NEXT and see what you find. This is what I found when I did it.
          Once you see the structure you’ll see that it lacks value.

          I updated my original post to reflect what the promo offers. Doesn’t change the meaning of what I’ve said.

        • 21stNow

          Next and Mobile Share are two different things. Next does not involve a two-year contract at all, while Mobile Share Value does allow for subsidized devices and two-year contracts.

          An example is that an existing AT&T customer that is under a two-year contract is not eligible for Next until that contract expires.

          An existing AT&T customer that is under a two-year contract can switch to Mobile Share Value at any time before the contract expires. He/she will have to pay the $40 smartphone rate instead of the $25 smartphone rate.

        • Paul

          OMG I just went through the motions via NEXT and Mobile Share. GO DO IT YOURSELF AND SEE!!

          I’m done, you’re obviously just trolling for an argument.
          Also, follow your own advice. “…don’t present false information to make your case.”

        • 21stNow

          Paul, why are you getting so mad? I have explained Next and Mobile Share to you in a calm manner, but you get mad and start typing in all caps. I don’t understand what the problem is.

          In order to finance a device under AT&T’s Next program, you have to be a customer in the same way that you have to be a customer of T-Mobile in order to use T-Mobile’s EIP. Both situations require a financing agreement only, and neither carrier uses two-year service contracts in conjunction with their financing plans.

          I’m not looking for an argument, as I am confident in my knowledge of AT&T’s programs. You said that you had questions and I offered answers. You don’t believe me when I say that you can start as a new customer with AT&T, get the Next plan and start with Mobile Share Value without a contract. There is never a contract with the Next program.

          I posted the writing from AT&T’s website and you choose not to believe it. To make it worse, you accuse me of presenting false information to make my case. I got my information from AT&T’s website, which would be the ultimate source of the truth in reference to this. You haven’t given any direct quotes from the website or non-hyper-links.

          If you don’t want to discuss this, that’s fine. But when you post misinformation in a public forum, someone will most likely point out the error.

  • Mario

    They only give you credit towards there services. How are you supposed to pay off what you still owe. Sounds stupid. I’m a Magenta faithful.

  • pops87

    Lol what a bunch of scam artists. Even after the $450 in “savings” you’re still gonna be overpaying month to month.

  • Abe_The_Babe

    Well, that just took a hit on TMUS stock price.. This sucks that they announced it first, let’s hope people realize that they’ll still be paying a lot more in the end..

  • spartanjet

    I’m tempted to make the jump since tmo wont carry the phone/tablet I want in the Lumia 1520 and 2520. Really disappointing.

    • BlackJu

      I hear you and was tempted too for a moment. But the 925 is a great phone, even if it’s showing its age a bit. Just think of how bad you would get screwed month after month for 2 years. I will say that if T-mo doesn’t bring in some new high end WP devices soon, I’m either going to jump ship completely or ask for my JUMP money back and put it towards an unlocked device of my choosing (they prob won’t give it back though). In any case, I don’t think ATT is the answer. Just look at how they gimped the 1520. Shameful.

  • smacsteve

    Baw hah hah! AT&T beats T-Mo to the punch! LOL!

  • pramarama

    Goes to show you what a ripoff the NEXT program is if they can offer you $450 to switch.

  • TBN27

    They can keep their bleeding $450. Call me back when they offer unlimited everything for $70 a month, then we will talk otherwise Magenta all day

  • KingCobra

    Haha. Big AT&T is running scared from little T-Mobile. Competition is a beautiful thing. I love it!

  • KingofPing

    Amusing as heck that they specify this is for T-Mobile users only. Apparently those VZW/Sprint users can go suck eggs (or move to T-Mobile!)

    • Spanky

      I think someone at AT&T finally got fed up with John Legere’s antics. As stated by KingCobra, competition is definitely a beautiful thing!

      • KingofPing

        Sure! …but leaving themselves open like this (and pointing out exactly who they are afraid of) just makes me laugh.

        T-Mo will likely announce this for switching from *any* carrier….making AT&T look a bit, well…their usual.

        • Spanky

          I’m not too sure about that. John Legere’s been publicly picking on AT&T for a long time. As the saying goes, if you can’t take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. I can’t wait to see what his response will be. At this point, AT&T seems to have beaten T-Mobile to the punch.

    • Stone Cold

      Non compatible tech CDMA vs GSM is more than likely the reason they could probably refurbish any phone turned in and re-sell it.

  • kev2684

    All-out war between US’ 2 biggest GSM carriers has begun haha.

  • sidekicker89

    Okay if you go on Facebook and search for “AT&T Fan Page” this is what one of their posts by “Ken”…

    AT&T Fan Page T-Mobile isn’t cheap by any stretch of the imagination…..no matter how they spin it. I just came off of their website and first off for Family you can only get 4 lines…secondly for the 4 lines with what I have on my AT&T plan is $50 more a month than what I’m paying for 5 lines of service…furthermore their service is so detached you don’t know what you’re getting from one State to another!#NoThanks #ATT #ATTWp #MagentaSucks #TMobile ~Ken

    • AngusMightHaveABeef

      He’s crazy. It’s 5 lines on family, not 4. (I think you can get more if you call them and can pass credit?) T-Mobile you could get 5 people on a family plan for about the cost of 2 on AT&T.

    • pips78

      He’s comparing Apples to Oranges. There is no comparing plan pricing because the absense of Unlimited Data makes it impossible. I use 10GB a month in data. I dont even want to know what that would run me at AT&T.

    • philyew

      Five lines of unlimited everything with TM = $210/month.
      Five lines sharing 30GB with AT&T = $425/month.

      Yup, real competitive!

  • S. Ali

    Sorry, I’m too busy enjoying unlimited data that would cost me $450+ monthly on ATT. I wouldn’t use them if they had 5G LTE

  • donnybee

    This is AWESOME! AT&T is getting scared.. GO JOHN!

    Now what T-Mobile needs to do is not only offer AT&T customers a sweet buyout to switch, but also offer our own fellow customers who are on contracts a solid way to get our of their contracts and switch to simple choice! Think about it, most of the people who are probably looking at this option and actually thinking about it for more than 2 seconds are more than likely in contracts.

    • Stone Cold

      Call and ask for the retention dept if you want out of your contract so bad depending on time vested as a customer they may be able to offer what you are looking for.

  • thepanttherlady

    1. Limited time offer. Requires qualified trade-in. Not all devices are eligible for trade-in or will receive full $250 value. Promotion Cards may only be used toward purchases of eligible AT&T products & services or to pay your wireless bill. Additional promo card terms may apply in select locations. Switcher Bill Credit requires port-in of eligible T-Mobile wireless number and qualified activation. Must activate own phone, non-commitment phone, or phone on an AT&T NextSMinstallment agreement w/ a qualified plan (voice & data); not available with 2 year contract option. Must maintain service & good standing status for 90 days to receive credit. Credit received within 3 bill cycles. Available at select Dealers and National Retail locations only. Additional terms and conditions apply.

    • BlackJu

      yuck

    • vrm

      That is a reasonable requirement otherwise, people like me with unlocked phones will take this offer, just to get $200/line and after using that money to pay the at&t bill ( few months), switch back ! Don’t forget the $15/mo lower bill per line for BYOD as well.

      Even 3 months is not that bad and $200 will pay a decent portion of my bill for 3-6 months ! I for one am tempted by this offer.

      • Mike

        $200 credit for service will last only 2 months with AT&T. If you need 2GB (not unlimited you must purchase more data if you get to 2gb) and unlimited minutes and text will run you $80 with AT&T vs T-Mobile Unlimited everything with 2.5 GB high speed data and Hotspot for $60

      • AngusMightHaveABeef

        Remember they require that you trade in your “qualified” phone. So unless you have extra phones laying around that are good enough to be considered, you cannot get it.

        • thepanttherlady

          Only the $250 value promotion card is dependent on trading in a phone. The $200 line credit can be BOYD but you have to migrate your T-Mobile line over. I wouldn’t think that T-Mobile would allow anyone with an EIP to migrate their number over but I could be wrong. Any reps here able to verify this, please?

        • 21stNow

          I would think that a T-Mobile customer could port the number out while still owing the EIP. The remaining balance would be due in full at the time of service termination. A rep can clarify this soon, I hope.

          The deal is somewhat circular. If I want to come and bring my own phone to utilize the Next program, then typically I wouldn’t have a phone to trade-in to get the $250 credit. I could only get the $200 credit. If I do trade-in a phone, then I would have to use the $250 credit in order to get a new phone, so it’s a wash.

          I should trade-in one phone, use a different phone that I already have, just to take AT&T up on the offer fully. They really don’t count on someone getting $450 from them. I doubt that I would do this, but it would be interesting to try.

        • hi

          Phones locked until it’s payed off so it will be interesting to see how AT&T is even going to pull this off.

          I don’t see them accepting locked T-Mobile phones as trade ins, and I don’t see how they are going to port numbers in from eip phones.

        • thepanttherlady

          The fine print says “non-commitment phone” so no, they won’t take a phone on EIP. My question pertains to the actual line/number since migrating it to AT&T is a requirement to get the $200 credit.

        • 21stNow

          I have traded phones in to AT&T in the past. They don’t check the SIM lock status of the phones that they take. I traded in two GSM phones that happened to be unlocked and a Virgin Mobile phone, which wasn’t “unlocked” as it was a CDMA phone.

        • thepanttherlady

          I’m wondering if they’ll start?

          Must activate own phone, non-commitment phone, or phone on an AT&T NextSMinstallment agreement w/ a qualified plan (voice & data); not available with 2 year contract option.

        • 21stNow

          I see that you are focusing on the words “non-commitment phone” in AT&T’s fine print. This wording is how AT&T refers to full-price purchases of devices. AT&T doesn’t refer to buying devices at full price upfront, they use the phrase “no-commitment price” (see AT&T’s website).

          So you can take advantage of this offer coming from T-Mobile if you bring your own phone, pay full price for an AT&T phone upfront or use the Next plan to buy an AT&T phone.

        • thepanttherlady

          Thank you for clarifying!

        • Stone Cold

          You are quite wise my friend.

  • TechWings

    First, $250 of that is the maximum you’ll receive in return for trading in your existing T-Mobile handset. To get the full $250, you’ll need a recent handset in good condition – in which case you’d almost certainly get more selling it privately …

    Second, the balance of the $200 you receive just for switching is dependent on you buying a new AT&T handset outright at full retail, or activating your own unlocked phone. You’ll only receive that credit when you’ve been paying your AT&T bills for 90 days.

    Finally, AT&T is not waiving its standard $36 activation fee, so you’ll have to pay that before you start seeing any money back. Oh, and it’s time-limited offer, but AT&T hasn’t yet said when it expires. So…

    • thepanttherlady

      As written by Ben Lovejoy at 9to5Google

      • TechWings

        Yep.

      • bisayan

        David Breen is on tbis blog as well!!! I missed him but Cam is doing a great job as well!

      • AndroidProfit

        He seems busy plagiarizing all over the place

      • Youidiotz

        Don’t hate

        • thepanttherlady

          Hating? When someone else’s article is copied and pasted verbatim give them the credit rather than pass it off as your own.

        • Stone Cold

          Exactly

    • Paul

      As well, the plans they offer through their “AT&T Mobile Share® Value Plans” will gouge your wallet.

  • Alex Zapata

    And give up truly unlimited and unthrottled data? Ummm….go fish?

    • Youidiotz

      No way, they make an extra 50 million in overage every year.

  • Melissa Cardenas

    i have to think about this very seriously after giving tmobile many tries it always fails me like i mentioned in another post on new years on the rose parade it crapped out while att worked fine .,ugh this sucks att dont have unlimited data, but i guess i can make a scarifice for better service like i said i really wanted it to make it work with tmobile but no service in many stores at the mall ridiculous i hate that if im at a store and put on a dress or something i cant upload the pic to twitter or instagram while friends on att can do that without a problem . Not only that i cant even call or send a text in many stores in LA downtown LA is a nightmare no service in elevators and underground parking lots while att works fine .. hopefully att does give us new customers 450 to switch from tmobile lol if thats tru i would do it.

    • AndroidProfit

      The FAKENESS is strong with this and the stupid BURNS!

    • that $450 (if you even qualify for it) will be instantly gone after you get your first month’s bill lol ;)

    • Youidiotz

      I’m fascinate by dumb America. This broad talks about sacrifice in one sentence and can’t take a dirty selfie and post it on Twitter after she leaves the mall. Anyways what mall do you go to that they don’t have free wifi. Wtf

      • donnybee

        I disagree. I think everyone has their own reasons for being with a company that they’re paying for services through. There’s a reason you and I are with T-Mobile, and it’s because it meets our use-case. She obviously isn’t getting what she wants out of her phone service that she’s paying for. I think everyone should pay for a service that meets their needs. We are all celebrating T-Mobile’s success from the past year, but the reason they have success is because they are now able to meet the needs and use-case of many more people out there along with lowering their bills. That’s why T-Mobile is succeeding, but there will still be people who aren’t getting what they want out of the service.

        I would challenge your response and say the opposite: It would be stupid if she didn’t switch. Especially now that AT&T is offering up a promotion. More/Sronger coverage is just as important as a low bill. By your logic, why would anyone upgrade their cable package to include more channels? It’s cheaper if they don’t upgrade and they have almost all the channels they would want, but they don’t get that one channel that’s their favorite. I say if you’re willing to pay for a service that meets your needs, let your money do the talking. Don’t be so close-minded.

      • Melissa Cardenas

        Dumbazz the free wifi is only in the food court the wifi dont reach all the way to macys or nordrstrom and btw i live in los angeles there are plenty of malls tmobile doesnt work at in many stores.

    • donnybee

      I can’t figure out why people are bashing you for wanting to switch when you aren’t getting what you’re willing to pay for. If T-Mobile had stronger service in the area I’m sure you’d stay. But I think it’s stupid for anyone out there to pay for a service or any product that isn’t doing everything you want it to do, if there is something out there that will do all the things you want it to do. There will be sacrifices with either decision – T-Mobile has less of the coverage and strong signal you want, and AT&T will completely cost much more than T-Mobile and enforce data limitations. Who is anyone to say people are stupid for thinking coverage is more important than lower cost? If that’s their use-case then get off their back.

      I’m a very happy T-Mobile customer. I came from AT&T. I had Sprint before I had AT&T. I had Verizon before I had Sprint. T-Mobile meets my needs at the cost I want, but that’s because I have great coverage in the locations I frequent. I wish everyone could have the same experience as I do, and I believe we are reaching a point where that’s in the future, but it’s not there yet and for right now I believe everyone should pay for what they want. It’s not like we get T-Mobile service for free..

      • Gary Hernandez

        I think people just lash out because they are tired of hearing the same old story, and the complaints always come from people who refuse to switch to something that will work. But i agree with you, she is not just trolling she’s planning on switching.

    • donnybee

      I would challenge you to read the fine print though, as AT&T has placed some stringent requirements on this offer to take advantage of it. AT&T is a shady company, I can say that because I’ve had them. If you’re willing to jump through the hoops they want you to, and you’re willing to play by their rules, then by all means..

      But just educate yourself before you switch or you might end up even more disappointed.

      • Melissa Cardenas

        i know what you mean i also had att 3 months ago but like i said i always came back to tmobile since they offer better plans but no more this time when i go back to att i will stay i know im going to be disappointed when i pay the bill but at least ima be paying for something that works.

    • maximus1901

      H2O wireless = ATT mvno
      Unlimited talk, text, HSPA+
      $60/month
      Tried it on nexus 5 and it works.

      • 21stNow

        Keep your eyes open with H2O Wireless because they like to pull fast ones. I’d recommend Red Pocket over H2O.

  • KP

    Like I said yesterday, ATT can checkmate TMO… This wasn’t the move I said (offer unlimited data again) they could do but it 100% was a response to what TMO will announce on the 8th. Look for VER to be next.

    • AndroidProfit

      I am sorry that I missed you saying this yesterday. Thanks for pointing that out.I will go back and look for that…so thrilled!

  • JaswinderSinghJammu

    Wow, AT&T is so nice..NOT. Thanks but no thanks. Offer unlimited data and we might, might that is consider

    • KP

      Thats the checkmate they can pull but are they man enough to do it???? Everything else in my mind is just chatter…

    • philyew

      Considering that 5 lines sharing a 50GB Mobile Share plan costs a staggering $575/month from AT&T (compared with TM’s unlimited everything for 5 lines for just $210/month), I think you will need to give that some serious consideration before making the jump…

  • nd5

    You know what… if T-Mobile merges with Sprint, this is a no-brainer. I’m quite happy with T-Mobile as they are now, but if they become Sprint, I want no parts of that mess.

  • besweeet

    From the press release: “With AT&T, customers can take advantage of AT&T’s new Mobile Share Value plans…”

    That’s full of nope.

  • steveb944

    Haha, that’s so awesome. AT&T must be feeling it so hard right now that T-Mobile is on the rise. This is probably the first time a carrier goes to this length against 1 competitor.

    • Spanky

      Nah, T-Mobile went against AT&T first.

  • AndroidProfit

    I CAN’T WAIT to see the sophomoric response from John on Twitter!!!!

  • dontsh00tmesanta

    Looks like Tmobile is getting to them if they offer this for TMo peeps. Verizon is their biggest rival why not them. Besides the whole gsm thing

    • Spanky

      Because Verizon wasn’t the company whose CEO started the fight with T-Mobile.

      • dontsh00tmesanta

        Doesnt matter this proves how Tmo shook up the big guys and its fun to read

  • mingkee

    $450 is so insulting as Sprint wanted to buy T-Mobile for $20 giga.

  • Alex Lopez

    I see death star so… IT’S A TRAP!!!!

  • Jon

    Looks like AT&T is worried this reeks of desperation.

  • PiCASSiMO

    No thanks… $200 is nothing. Nor do we have $250 worth of phones to trade-in.

  • iPhone

    If ATT&T wasn’t so expensive and their plans don’t suck ass I would totally switch.

    • maximus1901

      They have to be expensive to pay that 5% dividend to stockholders: ATT pays about $2.3bil every quarter to shareholders on top of network improvements and rofits.

      • El_Chuletas

        Where did u get that info from? Does tmo pay that as well?

        • 21stNow

          You can go to MarketWatch’s website and look up the symbol “T”. The dividend yield is 5.26% (Yay!). T-Mobile has not declared a dividend yet.

        • maximus1901

          ATT investor relations, 2Q2013
          Dividends paid – $2.4bil

          In order for a company to offer dividends, they have to actually be making money; TMO lost $36mil this past quarter.

          So no, tmobile is not offering any dividends.

  • Moby

    This is game over for T-Mobile. T-Mobile customers will jump at the opportunity to be on the premier LTE network in the country. No more slow EDGE. No more dropped calls within buildings. T-Mobile stock took a big tumble today because investors rushed to sell their shares. Bye-bye T.

    • Mystery Man

      Wat

      • ?

        Do you actually work for The Death Star ? Cause right now I;m looking at TMOUS stock and it’s at 32.09 per share, last update was… 2 minutes ago…. And also apparently you don’t read the news either right ???

        • maximus1901

          Once FCC kills merger, TMUS stock will plummet.

        • vrm

          that sprint take over rumour was all planted by W.S. in collusion with the big two. Read today’s news in the street rags- they are already talking it down.

          In the meantime, hedge funds have made some killing on both stocks and they will now make a killing on their way down too.

        • maximus1901

          Wanna bet whether sprint will make a bid on 2014 for TMUS?

        • vrm

          So far, neither the sprint management nor tmobile management (DT) have been quoted or even contacted to verify the rumours. All you have is some unnamed Japanese banks having been approached by softbank for loans to buy tmobile.

          It is not hard to see that this is all FUD spread against t-mobile for the gains they are making. Verizon and at&t have powerful thug buddies on wall street otherwise they wouldn’t have been able to borrow 100s of billions of dollars over time.

        • maximus1901

          Those same thugs were responsbile for TMUS’ recent stock and debt issuances.

          TMO’s stock is INCREASED by people who want to destroy it? . .. . Hmm . .. not quite sure about that logic.

          The reason why ATT and Verizon were able to borrow so much is because their businesses generate billions in free cash flow.

        • Moby

          Right $32.09. That’s a loss of 4.61% in the last two days. And it will keep going lower too.

        • philyew

          And it was in the low $20s before all the buyout speculation started cranking up a couple of weeks ago. Right now it’s all artificially inflated by speculation anyway.

    • Eric

      Yet 45+ million like their T-Mobile service and T-Mobile WILL expand LTE and HSPA+ to all of their EDGE areas this year.

      • maximus1901

        Source for that info please. That’d mean that TMO is gonna have 280 mil LTE. This year.
        The obly documented info I’ve seen is 225 mil LTE in 2014, 3q2013 conference call presentTion

        • jarrod

          I think their entire footprint is actually ~300million.

        • maximus1901

          Oct 2012 metropcs merger slides says 280 million. Why would they have spent money on expanding 2g pcs when they haven’t even finished upgrading their HSPA+ areas which have backhaul to LTE?

        • Moby

          Yeah, they’re going to let people in rural areas stay on EDGE. If those people want faster speeds, then all they have to do is take advantage of AT&T’s generous offer and switch on over.

        • GinaDee

          Generous offer? What are you smoking? You must live in Colorado.

        • JaswinderSinghJammu

          He was probably just driving thru Colorado and contact high

        • jarrod

          I was saying their footprint is more around ~300million, the person above stated their entire footprint was being upgraded to LTE/HSPA, so if that is indeed the case it would be more than the 280million you stated.

        • Moby

          Right and I think they’re HSPA footprint is only at 227 million now. So that means they’d have to cover 53 million in rural areas with no low band frequencies before the end of the year. Ch’ya right.

        • jarrod

          I honestly don’t see where the problem is, their entire network was spaced for 1900mhz so theoretically it will provided decent signal for mostly everything and they just got a cash infusion of $4Bn dollars. The only thing they need to have done now is get backhaul out.

        • vrm

          I agree; with AWS and PCS, they should be able to convert those 2G areas. They may have to upgrade the base stations because they were left out in the HSPA+ upgrade. With those upgrades, they should be able to do HSPA, LTE on several different radio spectrum ( in case they acquire spectrum in future). And they will need to add backhaul. Even if the current backhaul supports faster than 256 kbps , it is worth the upgrade from GPRS/EDGE !

        • maximus1901

          That money is for block a band 12 spectrum.

        • maximus1901

          3G or better is 232 mil
          HSPA+ or better is 229mil

        • Moby

          Neither are close to the 280 mil that their network covers.

        • maximus1901

          It’s not 300 mil. Look at their native coverage and compare to ATT or Verizon native coverage doesn’t come close.

        • maximus1901

          Including roaming, yes. But they have no 850mhz so they wouldn’t attempt this.

        • maximus1901

          Did you look at the metro TMO merger slides?

        • Eric

          A T-Mobile employee stated it in a pervious article.

        • maximus1901

          If we’re talking about the same Tom person, he said ‘were workin on it’ NOT “WE WILL UPGRADE ALL EDGE TO AT LEAST HSPA”

      • Moby

        That’s just something you’re making up. T-Mobile has made no such announcement nor will they.

        • Eric

          Well why shouldn’t T-Mobile do it? Their primary customer pain point is coverage now..

        • Moby

          Because it costs a lot of money to do it and they have little chance of making up the costs with new subscribers in rural areas. That’s why they won’t do it. They’d rather just keep on upgrading the urban areas.

      • philyew

        You need to be realistic in the expectations. TM began their physical network build out in 2012, so it took them over a year to get the upgrades to towers covering 200 million POPs in narrow geographic areas. It’s important to remember that the further down the market list you go, the fewer POPs per tower will get service.

        Since the original 3G/HSPA+ footprint, delivered over 37,000 towers, reached 225 million POPs, we can reasonably assume that they didn’t upgrade more than 30,000 towers in 2012/13. That would leave 7,000 towers to complete the current project and another 15,000 towers to build out the remainder of the nationwide network. ~22,000 towers in total.

        On the face of it, a smaller task than the 2012/13 workload, but in fact it’s much greater.

        First, the geographic distribution is enormously larger (remember the maps that Verizon uses in its adverts), which makes crew logistics more complicated.

        Second, even if they don’t upgrade the backhaul using fiber to support LTE, they probably need to do some kind of backhaul upgrade to step up from 2G. Again, the geography makes that a challenge.

        Third, it’s been suggested that the tower equipment suppliers are going to be increasingly stretched to supply all the equipment to meet published programs of all their customers.

        These are some of the reasons that I’m more inclined to believe that TM will be limited to filling in around suburban areas and major highways through 2014.

        I’d love it to be more ambitious than that, but don’t see how that could be possible.

    • NinoBr0wn

      Bye Moby.

    • donnybee

      “Premier LTE network”?? T-Mobile has speeds that match or exceed AT&T where I’m at. Plus lower costs and unlimited data. How about we wait for John’s announcement and we’ll watch AT&T customers jump to the premier carrier!

      • OogaBooga

        But does it have the coverage to match or exceed AT&T’s? Moreover, if T-Mobile was the premier carrier, don’t you think it wouldn’t no.4?

        • OogaBooga

          Moreover, if T-Mobile was the premier carrier, don’t you think it wouldn’t BE no.4?
          Sorry, typing too fast!

        • philyew

          What coverage someone has in 49 other states doesn’t matter to me, if I don’t travel there. All that matters is the coverage that I get, as far as my willingness to stay with TM or move on.

          On the odd occasion that I do travel further afield, I can buy a month of Straight Talk service for $45, if needed. I’d have to be traveling 5 months of the year for that approach to cost me more than moving my subscription over to AT&T.

      • Dakota

        When will everyone realize coverage depends on your location. Different people are going to have great or awful coverage on T &T and T-Mobile.. You say its great.. Someone else will say they’re stuck on Edge & can’t get a connection in a building

        • maximus1901

          Let’s see how many of those people are TMO vs ATT customers, especially now that ATT has LTE covering 270mil and will have 300mil mid 2014.

    • philyew

      It’s dropped less than a buck fifty on the day. Stock values are artificially high, having been pumped up around $10 by the buyout speculation over the last two weeks.

      I’d have to have bricks in my head to accept that deal. $450 in the short term, which I’d hand right back to them in higher service costs within 5 months.

    • Stone Cold

      9 year subscriber not leaving unless forced

    • Do you work for Att? I don’t understand why you’re on this forum. I used to have ATT and will never be switching back.

      • Moby

        I can make a legitimate comment on this forum if I care to. The fact is that AT&T is making moves to attract T-Mobile customers to AT&T’s far superior LTE network. If you’re happy with inferior coverage, I don’t have a problem with that.

        • Dion Mac

          I could be wrong, but I do not believe that’s what she asked…

    • El_Chuletas

      I have had use 60 Gbs of data on LTE this month on Tmo, that would’ve been 600 dollars on att’s, ni doubt ppl will respond to this.

      • i had about 50… psssh im trying to switch my parents to tmobile so i can save that 20bucks of 500mb of data. Phew !! Tmob is the best.

      • Farahnaaz Ramji

        wht in the hell do you do? i cant get passed 15gb lol.

        • Farahnaaz Ramji

          with tmobile.

        • DApple

          Lol I did 33 in December! Love Tmobile

      • mingkee

        I used nearly 75GB thanks to Aereo and massive video file download from cloud.

    • 0neTw0

      At&t is better in some markets. But where I live its Verizon, T-Mobile and then the other two.

    • Luis Espinal

      Awesome !! No more EDGE and 1000.00 dollar Cell Phone Bills from AT$T! If you barely use data and only focus on talk/text which is rare with the younger customers T-Mo caters to, I really doubt they’ll be willing to pay for ATT’s data plans. I can only imagine how much my bill would be to have the privilege of ATTs awesome LTE speeds, omg 121GB last bill=shitloads of money, not the $20.00 Magenta charged me. Thank you Magenta!

    • mingkee

      Mod please ban this guy.

  • Angry

    TMO – sell me 2 gig of at&t LTE roaming for $10-15 per line and I won’t even consider this

    • Dakota

      2.5 gb of AT&T LTE is $45 on Straight Talk right now. No contracts or Jumps

      • Angry

        Can you add that onto a T-Mobile phone though?

        • philyew

          Switch the SIM, if it’s unlocked.

        • Angry

          Need a proper multi-carrier MVNO. Sim-switching is for chumps, lol

  • enkay1

    T-Mobile just put up a month of free service promo.

  • FluX

    This reminds me of Apple and Google. I bet AT&T is going to advertise that they finally “innovated” in the mobile industry only to be slammed by T-Mobile again!

  • Dakota

    The TV networks not surprisingly aren’t telling the whole story.. Like not mentioning the Next Plan & having to pay full price for your

    • 21stNow

      AT&T knew what they were doing when they released this to the press. Mainstream media is going to do exactly what you said that they would. Blogs and forums will focus on this, and the average consumer won’t make it to these.

  • maximus1901

    Wouldn’t it be funny if on Monday TMO announces something completely unrelated to what ATT did? lol

    • AAA

      that would be hilarious, lol

  • jay

    Im think of tapping out of tmobile. I’m so tired of the “e” and the “g” for service. T mobile blows in pa where I live. What good is being the uncarrier when your service is unusable? I Wish John would just take a ride away from the cities. Will check out att tomorrow. I’m not bad mouthing tmobile just stating a fact. Would be great if I had service

    • Moby

      Yes, AT&T is a much better alternative for someone in your situation.

    • TBN27

      It’s just not gonna happen right away. They are working on that issue so they can survive. Until then either AT&T or Verizon is the way to go. If I were living up in that region, it would be the only choice. I predict though that in 2 years some of these antiquated EDGE holes will be covered over. And hopefully coverage in General will make its way to markets that T-Mobile doesn’t even exist.

    • KlausWillSeeYouNow

      Follow your heart, but I’d be sad to see you go. :-(

  • Roy

    Will coverage wise att does have better coverage att matches verizon here in illinois tmobile does have better deals though which im with tmobile but if it wasnt for wifi at my job i would have to consider att or verizon tmobile is just g or edge where i work at at home its hspa which is nice

  • Roy

    But i do have to say that Mr. Legere is a cool as hell ceo wish all 4 carrier ceos was like him.

  • Waymoregooder

    hey-what about sprint customers?????? i can’t wait to leave sprint! their vision network program is horrible!
    …so, don’t forget about us Sprint customers NEEDING to leave!!!

    • 21stNow

      Sprint customers are eligible for the trade-in offer only. They are not eligible for the $200 bill credit.

  • Șτερħεɴ ᎯɴτħΘɴϓ

    Holy crap! Idk if I should switch from T-Mobile to AT&T then! If they’re offering up to $450 in credit, I don’t see why not? I’ve been with Tmobile for 6yrs now and their (LTE) coverage is just like Sprint. Spotty. Where I live I get 1 bar of 4G signal in my house. Not even in my yard does it go up. But a block away I have all 5 bars of LTE. It pisses me off. I’ve complained so much they finally sent me an in-home-tower to amplify my signal. But I only get 4-5bars of 4G still. If I have an LTE iPhone, I want it to work at LTE speeds. AT&T’s LTE speeds in my area are up to 65mbps and T-Mobile’s goes up to 35mbps.
    But then again, I don’t like the family shared plans and little data AT&T offers. I’m the only one on my line. On the plus side, with Tmobile I do have unlimited data and I use about 15-20 GB of data a month! Lol. BUT I just recently got wifi at home because of my crap signal. Idk what to do!!!!!

    • FluX

      You are getting what you pay for. You pay less for T-Mobile so you can be happy with the unlimited data you get despite the coverage. (Maybe at the end of the year!)
      You can pay more but not get as much as you would like with AT&T, but you can be happy about the speeds and coverage you get with AT&T.
      But I know that in your heart, there is something saying “stay magenta!”

      • jay

        To add to the topic, I stopped at another store in Lehighton pa, and had another guy explain it to me. It’s a complete waste. There is no benefit to it at all. The 200 credit goes on bill, but the trade in value is a joke. Because it’s not a prepaid visa, it’s store credit. They make you go with their next plan, which is nothing down or 40 bucks down. Now the remaining balance has to be used in store. And holy sh*t are there plans expensive. There is nothing good in my opinion to switch. I pay roughly 150 ish a month, that’s 2 lines mine unlimited my wife the extra 2 gigs plus 40 for the installment thing. Att wants 190 for a shared plan of 6 gigs. They are insane! I’m sticking with tmobile and I’ll deal with edge. Looking to better coverage down the road

        • 21stNow

          How did you get $190 for the 6GB plan? If you are taking advantage of the T-Mobile switch offer, you would go on the Mobile Share Value plan which would be $80 for 6GB and $50 ($25*2) for the smartphones for a total of $130.

          Were you adding on a Next fee of $30 per smartphone per month to get to $190? If so, it may make more sense for you to not go for the trade-in credit, get your devices unlocked from T-Mobile and take them to AT&T, assuming that they will work fully on AT&T’s network.

        • jay

          The next fee was 32.50 for each phone, it was 195 per month to be exact with out tax. The sales guy said nothing about unlocking. 250 was the trade in value for my 2 phones for each. He was not very helpful at all. But at the end of the day I’ll deal with the edge network and pay for my unlimited data. Thanks for your input though

      • Marc Klein

        They had the Facebook Phone and look how that turned out. Out of desperation they basically gave it away for a buck.

    • KlausWillSeeYouNow

      Stay. Great things are in store here. You know that T-Mobile is the better company. :-)

      Other than bribe people, what has AT&T’s 2013 been like? Exactly.

    • philyew

      You’ll end up paying back the $450 and a lot more over the course of the deal you enter into with them, particularly if you get their 20GB plan. Remember, you have to buy a new phone full price, or go on their Next program to get the $250 for your trade in.

      If you can truly distinguish and make use of significant performance difference between 35mbps and 65mbps for phone or tablet-based activities, which would be worth the hundreds of dollars you will end up paying extra, then go for it.

      I’ll happily use the 14mbps LTE download that I can get from TM with 1 bar at my house, and spend the difference on something more useful.

      • FluX

        Yeah, I don’t really see a major difference between my crappy 8 MBPS on Comcast and like 25 I get when I am in downtown on my sis’s iPhone.
        Although I am perplexed as to why EDGE cannot be used very fast on newer smartphones. GPRS on my old Windows Mobile device is faster than EDGE on my sis’s iPhone.

        • philyew

          Well the maximum theoretical download speed on EDGE is 384kbps, I think, so “very fast” isn’t the way I’d ever choose to describe it ;-)

  • jay

    OK so i went to an AT&T store to see what exactly is involved in this whole thing. So this is what they tell me. If you port a number from T-mobile you get $200 per line on your bill. Now you can get up to $250 for your trade in, depends on how recent your phone is and the shape of it. The Trade in value you get as a prepaid visa card. So yes you can get up to $450. They told me for my S4 i would get $250 bucks plus the $200. Your choices for plans are either there next plan, or buy a phone at full cost. So if your service is unusable and your tired of Edge Like me its an option. Doesnt mean I’m going to switch but it is an option. With every post I out up here, I repeat the same things. Customer Pain Points to me is the crappy service outside of cities not to mention major highways with either Edge or no service. How long do we honestly have to wait to just see an improvement in certain areas? Look its a great service in Northern NJ and NYC. I work In northern NJ and the LTE is awesome, the problem is the service is unusable here in PA. I pay extra for Unlimited data, but we all know, try looking something up while your on EDGE! Just passing along info

    • FluX

      If you want to complain about service, switch to AT&T. If you want to get what you pay for, stay with T-Mobile.

      (Or if you are rarely in 3G/4G zones, switch to the 500MB 4G plan.)

      • jay

        If you see what most people talk about its the same thing I stated. You can’t tell me that you’d be perfectly happy being stuck on edge because that’s all you could get in your home town. As I also said in previous posts tmobile rocks by my work, LTE where I get 40 down 16 up. I spend most of my time during the week at work so it’s not worth it to switch, having said that it just gets frustrating when you really need to look something up you can’t. I’m happy with the service, as long as I’m not in my home area.

  • TRUEBLUE

    I was with Tmobile for 10 years & switched to AT&T……….. BIG MISTAKE.
    Their LTE service is Spotty at best and Monthly cost is simple not worth the headache. I have 3 months left on contract with AT&T then it’s back to Tmobile, unless of course the big announcement at CES allows me to leave earlier.

  • AK

    just switched over to ATT, been with TMO for 7 years. I have a 17% discount with ATT which sweetens the deal apart from 200$ credit (ATT waived the 36$ activation fee by calling the customer support).
    As soon as i stepped out of ATT store, i was on ATT network and sim activated. Switched over to 45$ ATT plan(unlimited talk, text and 300Mb, usually i am on wifi and ATT has good wifi in malls and other places).

    I used to pay 55$ to TMO with Taxes for comparable plan except 500Mb data. I will be saving ~8$ per month along with 200$ credit and good coverage by switching over to AT&T. It will also help me in getting additional discounts if i plan to switch to U-Verse.

    Thanks T-mobile for the competition :-)

    • stasek

      Competition is always good. Everyone’s situation is different and in your case, you came out ahead – good for you!

  • mingkee

    This is an interesting story from my sister and her husband.
    My sister has her number attaches with her daughter who has ATT while her husband number attaches to mine.
    Hers has 200MB for $15 while his has 500MB for NOTHING.

  • Deshawn Adams

    5 lines=$268 tax included

    4 with 2.5gb at $10, 1 has 500mb free.
    no overage charges or caps just slows down.
    free mobile hotspot on all lines.
    15% discount on my bill.
    5 phones on EIP $25, 23,17,16,15 a month ( once paid off bill will go lower). Income tax will take of that.
    3 phones with insurance.
    Family allowance at $5.00 that allows me to block unwanted costly downloads, numbers emails, calls and texts.

    I can switch all the phones to 500mb free for nothing a month and shed $40 off my bill. I can also drop the phone insurance as well.

    My phone bill is $268 with all this, now when I pay off the EIP balance that’s – $96 monthly. And if I opt to go 500mb free from the $10 2.5gb that’s -$40 offer as well, cancel the phone insurance a combined $21.
    My montly total would $111 for 5 lines unlimited talk, text and web that slows after 500mb. Besides Tmo is good where I live. So many options and perks I have with Tmo. There’s no way in heck will i switch over to At&t, happy Tmo customer right here. Here’s what my family members and in- laws dealing with:

    My in-laws have At&t and pays over $200 for 3 lines, sharing web data that’s laughable. But their on a grandfather plan so its saving them from a higher bill. But no perks or options to change with out losing the grandfather deal and bill going up lol.

    My sister pay over $200 for 3lines with Sprint plus she has a 25% employee discount. She’s jumping ship to Tmo first chance she gets lol.

  • Tacjam4

    The only way I’m leaving TMO, they combine with Sprint, and Sprint IS trying to acquire them.

  • Satisfied

    I hit my 200 MB data limit a few days early this month (Value Plan). With T-Mobile, it’s not a problem.

    My new Nokia 521 streams Nokia MixRadio just fine over 2G or 3G/4G. I streamed 20 MB on my walk Saturday morning after hitting the 200 limit. There are no commercials on this app. either. Awesome all around, especially considering I paid $60 for the new phone and got a free voucher for $20 worth of apps. from Microsoft.

    AT&T, go pound sand up your _ss.

  • Marc Klein

    AT&T fucks their customers in anyway they can whenever they can and I don’t like being fucked.