Nexus 5 available from T-Mobile online on November 14, retail stores on November 20

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Just a couple of days after publishing a leak suggesting T-Mobile stores would start selling the Nexus 5 on November 20th, we’ve now got official confirmation that the device will be launching in retail stores and other select dealers on that day. But, T-Mobile.com will be offering the device 6 days earlier, on November 14th.

Price-wise, Nexus 5 will be available from T-Mobile with an upfront cost of $41.99 and then 24 payments of $17 each month. That’s a total price of $449.99 for the device. Press Release states:

T-Mobile makes it easy and affordable to get the hottest Android smartphone in time for the holidays with an upfront cost of only $41.99 down and 24 equal monthly device payments of $17[1] with T-Mobile’s Simple Choice Plan. T-Mobile offers Nexus 5 customers an unprecedented wireless experience by freeing them from annual service contracts, overage worries, ridiculous upgraderestrictions and complicated plans while on a speedy nationwide 4G LTE network. Consumers can sign up for more information on Nexus 5 at https://explore.t-mobile.com/google-nexus-5.

I know many of you have been eager to find out exactly when T-Mobile would start selling it, so you could get it as part of a new contract, and not need to pay up front. After all, not everyone has the $350 sitting around to buy a new phone with.

[UPDATE: T-Mobile will only be offering the 16GB model at this point in time.] 

To repeat, Nexus 5 will be available for $42 down (then 24 x $17) from:

  • T-Mobile.com on November 14th
  • T-Mobile retail stores and select dealers on November 20th

How many of you are planning on picking one up?

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  • psychoace

    This is perfect unless it’s the 16gb version.

    • Cam Bunton

      Yeah, oddly there’s no mention of which storage option it is in the release or on the registration page. That makes me think it might be the 16GB model. I’m happy to be wrong on that point. I’ve emailed back to see if I can get confirmation on that.

      • psychoace

        Thanks, I can deal with 16gb but it would make me sad.

        • Cam Bunton

          Just updated the post. It’s definitely the 16GB model.

        • psychoace

          Damn, looks like I will have to keep my music on my pc and stream it. It’s still better then my Optimus L9 with only 4gb of storage.

        • Dakota

          Yeah carriers and manufacturers keep talking about the cloud but don’t realize that most consumers don’t have unlimited data or may not have a data connection at all tunes. I have over 30gb of music in my iTunes library which is why I still carry an iPod classic and hope Apple doesnt decide to discontinue it. I don’t want to pick and choose what I want. But if you can save the money, you can get the 32gb at Google Play and at least they only upped the price $50 for the extra storage vs t he $100 Apple charges to go from 16 to 32

        • psychoace

          Why not get a cheap sandisk mp3 player? For $40 and a 64gig micro sd card you have what you need without the bulk and extra cost.

        • ChristianMcC

          It does support USB OTG out of the box, FYI.

  • Brian Richards

    WIFI calling on board?

    • psychoace

      It’s a Nexus device so that’s a nope

      • Brian Richards

        If that’s 100% for sure, then it’s a non-starter. Most important T-Mo feature for me.

        • http://www.volkswagen.de/ Quailallstar

          This!

  • PhoenixPath

    Odd that they could sell the HTC One at the same price as the OEM, but not the N5…

    • psychoace

      HTC One’s price is a suggested retail price. It’s not an OEM price. That means it already includes markup. Google Play is more of a whole seller selling its item at whole sale prices while other third party venders are selling it at retail costs.

      • PhoenixPath

        You can (or could when I bought mine) buy them for $579 from HTC. I can (or could when I bought mine) buy it for the same from T-mobile.

        Yes, you can probably tell that you’re going to have an interesting time of it if you are going to try and convince me HTC is not the Original Equipment Manufacturer for the HTC One…

        • psychoace

          Again that is retail price, not wholesale price. They are making a large profit off of selling it from their own store.

        • http://pharaohtechblog.blogspot.com/ Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)

          It’s not large. I would probably wager that the profit for T-Mobile on the handset is around $25-50. The manufacturer is allowed to inflate the SRP for everyone but Google (who sells it at a loss).

        • Saunak Basu

          Google is NOT selling the Nexus 5 at a loss. Going by other “cost breakdowns”, I am guessing that the cost of material + manufacturing of the 16GB model is approx. $250 and the 32 GB model is approx. $265. Add R&D + marketing + little bit of overhead + RMA/warranty cost of $75/unit (total of $750 million – assuming that they will sell 10 million Nexus 5 devices in 1 year) and you have approx. $25 profit on the 16 GB model and approx. $60 profit on the 32 GB model. Not huge, but definitely NOT a loss.

          Now, can you imagine the profits Apple is raking in on the higher capacity iPhone/iPad models ($100 additional for each 16, 32 and 64 GB increments)???? And, VERY few reviewers are willing to call Apple on that – simple, pure shafting on consumers…

        • psychoace

          Then you’re saying that the HTC One is probably costing HTC about $200 to make and if you add R&D/Marketing/Overhead/RMA/Warrenty that is about $275. So they are making about $300 profit per unit. Now obviously T-Mobile buys these units at wholesale prices. With the Nexus 5 that amount is only by your standard $275. Add all the overhead (which is huge because they have hundreds if not thousands of retail brick and mortars), shipping and advertising on their end and you are probably looking at cost for them to of about $375. Now you need to add profit and cost of financing. That would put it at around $440. The only reason it doesn’t seem so bad with HTC One is because HTC doesn’t sell it wholesale or try to compete with stores. They sell it at MSRP. If you go to Warner Bros online store they usually sell movies at a higher price then retailers. They should be the cheapest because they are the manufactures of them but they usually stick to MSRP.

        • philyew

          Google pays LG for each unit. LG will be charging somewhere approximately in line with other manufacturers, but are charging Google less than they are charging other distributors. It is therefore entirely possible that Google are selling at a loss in comparison with the price they paid LG.

        • PhoenixPath

          *laughing*

          Google is a wholesaler?

          Damn…

          They got kinda screwed on the One and S4, didn’t they?

          Sorry, man, but by that logic the S4 and One from Google Play should have been deeply discounted. They were not.

          HTC is the OEM.

          HTC sold it for $579.

          …and in other news; 1+1=2.

        • psychoace

          They didn’t make those products. They didn’t determine the cost of those phones.

        • PhoenixPath

          Google’s the wholesaler, right?

          You’re not actually trying to claim the n5 cost $200 less to make than the S4 or the HTC One, are you??

        • psychoace

          Google wholesales their own product. Play Edition phones are not theirs to determine the price on. Samsung and HTC determine the price. Prices aren’t always determined by the store. Sometimes you are forced to sell a product at the price the manufacture determines. This is very prevalent in console systems.

        • PhoenixPath

          “Google wholesales their own product…..Sometimes you are forced to sell a product at the price the manufacture determines.”

          …which leads us back to my first post.

          Thanks so much for that. It was fun.

        • psychoace

          Wow someone is trolling really hard.

        • Bratty

          Stop being a moron.

        • PhoenixPath

          Name calling. Aren’t you “special”…

        • philyew

          LG is the wholesaler. It sells to Google at a preferred price, not shared with other distributors.

      • Dakota

        Has Google said this – I keep seeing posters say things about Google subsidizing the phone or selling it at whole sale prices or not making a profit on it. I don’t recall ever seeing Google make that in a statement. I don’t give Tmobile a pass. They say they want to act differently; they say they are all about the consumer. If nothing else, the optics are bad. They havent even lowered the price of the Nexus 4 on their website…Its still over $400.
        And even if it were, Tmobile supposedly split the phone price from the service price and are making profit on the service. So if it were a wholesale price, that would be the price that TMobile bought the device, so why do they need to raise the price? A 349 price with a no contract plan is what can make t his a super attractive deal. Imagine zero down and 14.50 a month. So people could walk out with nothing down and for 2.5gb of LTE pay $75 a month…That would be a super deal to advertise

        • PhoenixPath

          I would have thought the One and S4 GPe editions would have snuffed that “Google subsidizes” argument, but apparently some folks were a bit slow on that one.

  • bikeryder007

    That is what you call $100 finance fee.

    • Dakota

      TMobile would never do that. They’re all about the customer and making it easy and inexpensive for them.

      • kalel33

        Seriously? T-mobile jacks up the prices on all their phones and makes a pretty good profit from it.

        • philyew

          The data from the Apple v. Samsung court case showed that, for example, TM paid on average $435 per unit for the Vibrant, which they sold at $500 off-contract.

          That’s a $65 difference from which they had to cover all their overheads relating to distribution and support. Their profit would have been around 10%, which isn’t as much as you seem to be implying.

          Other devices had a similar differential between the wholesale price and the MSRP.

          I’ll post a link to the numbers as a response to this message, since links have to be moderated.

        • kalel33

          The HTC Mytouch 4G was sold for $475 but only cost T-mobile $253. The HTC Amaze sold for $550 but only cost T-mobile $340. I know those two prices, because I bought both of those phones for “at cost” when I worked there.

          I’m not implying anything, I know how much they paid.

        • philyew

          Did you buy them when they first shipped? I ask merely because you can see from the Samsung revenue stats (when Cam gets a chance to moderate the link) that the unit cost for their devices reduced over time.

          The data I am citing was submitted as evidence in a court of law and Samsung had no reason to inflate their reported revenue. In fact, in the circumstances, they had the opposite incentive.

          I’m not saying it invalidates your personal experience, but it certainly demonstrates that TM have not consistently made excessive profits from their devices.

        • kalel33

          The Mytouch 4G I bought first week. The HTC Amaze I actually bought for $206 later on. Maybe HTC doesn’t sell for near the amount that Samsung does.

        • philyew

          Maybe not.

          By the way, I just saw the retail prices you report in cnet reviews of the products from 2010 and 2011. But their reports also showed a much lower MSRP – the Amaze 4G was listed as $399, not $550. The higher prices were Amazon Mobile listings rather than TM prices.

        • kalel33

          You might want to do a search for “HTC Amaze price” and you’ll see an article from Tmonews showing the screen shot of the price being $559, as seen on T-mobile’s own site. There was no possible way the Amaze ever started out at $399. There’s never been a flagship phone, besides the Nexus, that ever was below $400.

        • philyew

          There is obviously something strange with some of the invoice v. retail pricing.

          Again looking at Samsung’s declared revenues, we can see that TM paid on average $448 for each GS2, but they used a suggested retail price of $530 for their full priced sales.

          It’s hard to square that with a $560 full price for the HTC Amaze 4G, if it’s wholesale price was hundreds of dollars less, as you are reporting.

          The biggest question is why TM chose to go with Samsung for their flagship phones, when – it would seem – they could have made a ton more money at the time from pushing HTC?

          I guess I have to be sceptical that HTC was able to sell devices for up to $200 less per unit.

        • kalel33

          Iphones hurt the carriers most, yet they push them really hard. At the time, the HTC Amaze and the S2 were equals and Samsung hadn’t run away with Android sales yet.

        • philyew

          The iPhone has been a contract magnet like no other device, which is why the carriers have made a big deal over it, despite the slow payback.

          The fact that Samsung hadn’t yet taken off at the time of the GS2 launch only makes it more mystifying, if they did indeed price it much higher than its main competition from HTC.

    • philyew

      It’s not a “finance fee”: Google subsidizes its sales, LG in all probability charge all other distributors more than they change Google, which is what they did with the Nexus 4 (posted a link about this yesterday), and TM has to cover the cost of its distribution and support on all devices.

  • Nate443

    I got my Nexus 5 the 5th at 5pm (UPS)
    Seriously, this is an excellent phone. No bloatware or non-sense stuff like you see with the S4, One and G2. It is lean and fast all around. But the one thing I consider price less is having the latest in software, 6-8 months ahead of the other lay people common phones.

    • Dakota

      Its six in one half dozen in the other…You may have the latest OS, but there are people with skinned phones who prefer the extra features they have that the Nexus doesnt. Hows the camera? The Nexus has always had poor cameras. There are also a lot of reviews saying it has very poor battery life

  • jury_rigger

    Straight garbage, I’ll take my business to the Play store instead.

    • tomnewtn

      Mine arrives today, and I’ll keep beating the drum of buying from Play Store. Replacements have always been NEW vs refurbs while carriers (even Apple) replace with refurbs. I know I’d like to be aware of this info when deciding where to pick up a Nexus. That said, T Mobile is sure bringing some great devices to market these days.

      • psychoace

        I don’t have $350 to spend on a phone. So the Play Store isn’t an option for everybody.

        • Guest

          I’m on the same boat… but paying a 14.28% APR on it doesn’t seem like a smart idea. I’d be better off using a credit card.

        • PhoenixPath

          “I don’t have $350 to spend on a phone.”

          Huh…

          Guess someone’s not getting an N5 then, since the TMob one costs $100 more.

        • psychoace

          Uh really????? Do I have to explain why that is a dumb comment?

        • PhoenixPath

          *laughing*

          ..says the guy who doesn’t have $350 but sees no problem dropping $450.

          Yeah. Explain it. I’d love to see this logic play out. How is $450 less than $350?

        • psychoace

          “T-Mobile makes it easy and affordable to get the hottest Android smartphone in time for the holidays with an upfront cost of only $41.99 down and 24 equal monthly device payments of $17[1] with T-Mobile’s Simple Choice Plan.”

        • PhoenixPath

          So $350 is too much, but $450 is affordable.

          Got it. Thanks.

          Hint:
          The word you are looking for isn’t “affordable”.

        • philyew

          It’s “affordable” – i.e. “considered to be within one’s financial means” – to some when you only have to drop $42 up-front and then pay the rest off over two years…which is more “affordable” than having to find $350 now, in a single payment.

          The word he was looking for is exactly “affordable”.

      • Dakota

        Just curious what do they charge for shipping. I do wish companies like Google and Apple would plan their supply chain accordingly and not have these sell out gimmicks within such a short time. No reason there should be 3-4 week waits already. Hanukkah is on Thanksgiving Day and I assume some people wanted to have them on hand for gift giving

        • TheVorlon

          Inventory of millions sold out quickly is a gimmick?

        • http://knightofscorpio.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

          I don’t really agree it’s a gimmick, but a 3-4 week wait, really isn’t appealing or pleasing to anybody whose trying to buy the Nexus 5 right now. I think some people it will be a better option to buy it from T-Mobile because of EIP, and you’ll get it sooner than you can from the Play Store at this point.

  • guest

    best buy is selling the nexus 5 16gb today and i heard that it works withe tmobile and att network

    • Dakota

      On their website, I could only find the Sprint version at 149 on contract. They have it listed as 449 as a replacement phone.

      • John

        If you buy the nexus 5 on sprints website it $49.99 on 2 year contract because of a 100 web only discount. If you buy it in the sprint store it’s $149.99 on 2 year contract. Whether you buy it from sprints website or the sprint store it’s $449.99 off contract. Which is the same price T-mobile is charging.

  • Dakota

    Too bad Tmobile is not acting as an UNcarrier and once again is charging $100 more for the device. They say its for payments..but aren’t these supposed to be interest free? And what if someone walks into a TMobile store and wants to pay for the phone all at once? They still will have to pay $100 more. Cant imagine Google Play shipping is $100. Really sucks. And what about the Nexus 4? They’re still selling it at over $400. And why not make a 32gb version available if the phone doesnt have an SD card. Again, the more Legere promises change, the more they stay the same.

    • Long Island Steven

      The nexus 5 is only $350/400 because Google is subsidizing the phone when you buy it from the Play store.

      • Long Island Steven

        I say that, then I wonder why there’s only a $35 difference for the Nexus 7 lol.

        • TheVorlon

          Smaller subsidy.

    • TheVorlon

      Google isn’t subsidizing Nexus 5 sales to telcos.

    • philyew

      (a) Google subsidizes its sales, (b) If the experience with the N4 is anything to judge by, LG charges all other distributors more than it charges Google (I posted a link about this yesterday), and (c) TM has a distribution and support overhead to cover on all devices it sells.

    • Patrick

      Isn’t that called economics? If you don’t want to buy from a Tmo store, then buy it somewhere else.

      Oh, BTW, if you it from Google and it breaks your SOL, if you buy it from Tmo and get the JUMP plan, then your insured.

    • lilcapricorn

      Its actually not tmobile, lg sets the price of the device for carriers and Google subsidizes the cost of the device to buy straight from them…got this info straight from lg so its best to have facts before u state info as fact

  • chris l

    Will the black AND white be in stores?

  • robtheman

    The difference between buying this phone from T-Mobile and buying it straight from Google is the overhead. T-Mobile has to pay rent on its leases, bills on those properties, employee wages, etc. Google is selling directly from its website and doesn’t have to deal with overhead costs.

    There has been something said about a subsidy from Google. That may be true as well; I don’t know.

  • D Velasquez

    the shape of the front part of the phone reminds me of the Fujitsu F906i, same shape; The phone looks way better than the Nexus 4 but the fact is still LG im still hesitant to grab it, I was disappointed when I find out the next Nexus was LG made and not Motorola or Sony , Toshiba, Casio or any other company that’s not Samsung or HTC…..oh well.

  • Jake Walker

    I don’t mean to be a jerk,BUT y’all need to quit with the griping. If you’re fortunate enought to have the $350+ to get it from the Play Store,fantastic,do so. But for regular working Joe Schmo like myself,I’m okay with $42 down and $17 a month. It’s still a deal for a well-reviewed,pure Android phone. And a couple months where I can spare it,I can put more $$ towards the balance and be done with payments sooner. Can Google offer that?

    • psychoace

      Also look at comparable priced phones on T-Mobile. The Galaxy S3 is the only thing they have in the same price range, actually it’s $40 more. So yeah this is still a great deal.

      • bahehs

        Nexus 5 is better than an s3 and s4. And might even be comparable to the gs5 when it is announced,

    • Jake Walker

      Now,it would be stellar to have the 32GB around sooner,but hey,I’ll take a deal when it’s there. Thanks for the support,Psych

    • kalel33

      Just to ask, but how to do buy appliances, computers, TVs, etc. Do you go to Rent-a-Center because you can’t afford the price of the items up front?

    • Jake Walker

      @kalel33:disqus Funny guy…I’m still a youngin’,so appliances haven’t been on my purchase list. However, seeing how much those appliances are,I just might have to throw it on a card. I know it’s not the best idea. I’ve been blessed, I was able to buy my car, Mac mini, Macbook Air, and my iPhone 5 on credit. And since I’ve been consistent, my credit isn’t looking too poor….

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  • steveb944

    I’m glad I got my 32gb from the Play Store, I can always use the extra space.

  • 21stNow

    It’s cool that T-Mobile is offering this in-store for those that choose not to use the Play Store. Cam, it’s not offered on two-year contract, but it is offered on the Equipment Installment Plan. T-Mobile doesn’t want to use the word “contract”.

    It’s interesting to see this argument over the merits/wisdom of paying $100 more for the “privilege” of using EIP to pay for the exact same phone in these comments. People have argued that it is stupid to pay more for service on the two largest carriers when you arguably also get more coverage with those other carriers, so those that pay more, get more.

    The Nexus 5 is the same no matter where you get it from, so you (as a customer) are paying an additional $100 just to finance it and not getting more phone/features to show for it. The subsidy argument is not what I’m addressing here. This whole argument has me seriously planning on saving up to buy my next car outright. Interest makes the bank richer and me poorer.

    • Cam Bunton

      I know it’s not offered on a 2-year contract. I used the term “contract” to distinguish between buying it outright and getting it on the EIP. I assumed everyone reading this blog would understand the context. They may not want us to use that term, but in truth, everyone signing up to get one will be subject to a contract of some kind.

      In regards to paying the $100 more, I’m planning an article on that very shortly, but it turns out, they charge the exact same price to consumers as they pay to Google/LG to get the handsets in. To offer it at the same price as the Play Store, they’d be taking a $100 hit. At least, if the report I’m reading is anything to go by. More on that later.

      But, yeah, I’m completely with you on buying phones outright. For my own personal spending, I try to take the long term/big picture view. Paying £300 up front now may be a stretch, but it means saving a lot of money over the next couple of years in monthly payments.

  • JOSE

    Check out my Youtube channel to see the Nexus 5 APPS

    • JOSE

      You will find it under Alex Pizarro

  • MarkieE

    At $449 with $100 premium, it’s not a bad option at all IMO. Good for buyers who’d rather not spend $349+tax+shipping for a new phone and rather put low down payment and make lower monthly payments for it. I’m intrigued to go this route and order it on the 14th. Google Play currently has a wait time of 3-4 weeks for a 16GB model. I almost pulled the trigger last night and made a deal with a local CL seller offering a 16GB for $425 all because I don’t want to wait 3-4 weeks after placing an order, it would drive me nuts waiting for that order to be fulfilled. So with this option from T-Mob, I’m guaranteed a phone earlier than the Play Store promises AND lower upfront cost which allows me to have extra cash for holiday shopping. WIN-WIN for me…at least.

    • kalel33

      It’s just like Rent-a-Center. You pay more but do it over payments.

      • psychoace

        Except with Rent-a Center you pay 3x the normal cost. This is just about minor price increase

        • kalel33

          I wouldn’t call a 29% increase “minor”.

        • psychoace

          vs 300%?

        • kalel33

          It’s usually more like 150% but the concept is the same. Even the Jump program is pretty much exactly like the program that Rent-a-center has.

  • tomnewtn

    Nexus 5 arrives Downloads update right off the bat. Love the build and how grippy it feels.

  • skinnemuva

    Get this with Jump , pay $204 over 6 months then get a new, and better, phone. Win win.

    • MarkieE

      With JUMP! you’re technically making only 4 eip payments since the eip charge doesn’t kick in until the third bill from the date you buy a new phone. So overall cost after 6 months is still lower.

  • bobblehead48

    Rockin my 32gb Nexus 5 now. Had to hit the local TMo store for a free microSIM as my full size Sim wasn’t going to fit. Last night I called and switched from postpaid to the prepaid $30 plan with 100 talk minutes and was able to keep my number.

    LTE signal is weak in office. I hope it is better elsewhere.

  • cameo

    When do we find out if the N5-s sold by T-Mo differ from the ones sold by Google?
    I mean things like WFi calling or other useful T-Mo extras.

    Cam, can you find out?

    • psychoace

      Nexus devices don’t carry carrier bloat. They learned their lesson from Verizons Galaxy Nexus so that means no wifi calling

      • William C Boehm Jr

        WIFI calling on older phones used to work as a software option…not being able to switch from wifi to cell towers..but who cares…t-mo should really make it a downloadable app in the store…imo

    • Dm

      Same exact phone as Google sells. No bloat, no wifi calling.

  • David

    $449.99 + tax.

  • JaswinderSinghJammu

    just got mine in the mail from Google. just installed my T-Mobile Sim and its awesome.

    • ChristianMcC

      Ditto! Have you had any problems with tethering(or do you ever do it)?

      • JaswinderSinghJammu

        I just haven’t tried it yet but I am certain it would work just fine

  • David Lebron

    I think Tmo will be carrying only the 32GB model so this should only be a $50 markup – not bad considering last year was about a $200 markup lol

    • Dm

      He already said T-Mobile confirmed only a 16gb right now. It’s not so much a markup, due to T-Mobile not buyin from Google…. It’s straight from LG.

      • David Lebron

        Yea that is a pretty good markup then. Last year Tmo only got the 16GB version – thought they’d follow suit this year (as far as only getting the bigger version) :/

  • GinaDee

    Does anyone remember if the version of the N4 T-Mobile sold was locked or not?

    I wonder if their version of the N5 will be unlocked?

    • Dm

      It is unlocked. As was the N4

  • Jefferson Josue Morales

    Thats a lot for just the phone. Come on T-Mobile help us out too. At least try to make it close to the Play Store price or offer a free Bluetooth headset or something

  • Guest

    I find it funny that people are arguing that this company used about xx amount of money so this other non partner company should not retail this for xx amount more than the manufacturer itself. nobody is factoring out the cost of somebody importing the products to US, R&D, taxes, licenses and other customs stuff. nope. non of that. even the man-hours, storage, marketing or other retail stuff is overlooked. just the raw cost of the hardware.

  • $15454173

    Driver Carries No Cash. T-Mobile Jump Got It All.

  • dunnsantee

    Any idea if this will be priced at $41.99 in the retail stores or will it be more?