20+20 LTE networks popping up, Speed tests show 70Mbps downloads near Plano, Dallas,TX

As part of T-Mobile’s earnings call earlier in the month, one of the big points Tmo’s chiefs wanted to get across was that it was investing heavily in its network coverage. But it’s not just about how much coverage it has, the speeds and performance of the network are key too. As part of the announcement, the carrier stated that it would be launching new, faster 20+20 LTE network in a handful of key metro areas by the beginning of 2014.

Turns out, one or two of those are being tested right now. One of our readers, @joe012594 on Twitter, sent us some results from the East side of the Dallas metroplex, near Plano.

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Field Test mode on his iPhone showed that it was definitely a 20+20 tower he was using too, notice the 20MHz on upload and download bandwidths:

2020fieldtestOver the next few months, up through the first quarter of next year, we should see more of these areas light up, so if you do spot your speeds suddenly jump up on 4G LTE, be sure to let us know. 20+20 has a theoretical download speed of up to 150Mbps, the test on Joe’s device shows it having no problem reaching 70Mbps, which is pretty remarkable.

 

 

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  • Seba

    54-68 in Philadelphia suburbs. City download speeds are the same except upload, it’s in 20+

    • Joe

      That means your LTE towers aren’t capped at 50% like most. :)

      • fsured

        First, thanks Joe for all the posts you’ve added on this thread. What do you mean by capped exactly? I assume you mean what the towers can deliver interms of download speeds. If that is the case do you know if Verizon or ATT are also doing the samething with their towers? They would have the specturm to deliver faster speeds or is the hardware they have installed not capable of more than 60mb down? I’d wonder what would prevent them using those faster speeds if the ability is there.

  • Jay J. Blanco

    Im soo jealous I would kill for 10+10 mhz lte. 5+5 is killing my lte vibe here in Coulmbia, SC

    • sidekicker89

      who can T-Mobile buy spectrum from for the South Carolina market? I think U.S Celluar has spectrum in North Carolina.

      • Jay J. Blanco

        Cricket has aws in cola sc as well as SpectrumCo and Verizon

        • sidekicker89

          That’s why i keep telling John Legere to make an offer for Leap!! lol Also Leap has 700 Mhz Block A that T-Mobile could use if they decide to buy Verizon’s 700 MHz Block A

        • S. Ali

          ATT bought Leap back in July.

  • Aurizen

    Hope it hits Philly soon

    • Joe

      Markets that started off with 10+10 will become 15+15 or 20+20 (dependent on specific spectrum available) in the coming months. :)

      • fsured

        Is there a public listing of what type of set up each market has regarding 10+10, 5+5, etc? I see posts from up above about checking it through your phone but it would be nice to see a complied list.

        • TemplarofLTE

          Indeed! I wish there was somewhere we could see which is which. It’d be very helpful as I move between markets.

  • Alex Zapata

    *droooooooools*

  • http://about.me/daylondeon Deacon

    i’ll be in Plano later today too visiting my friends at Gearbox Software .. i shall test this! :)

    • Joe

      Specific location to test is near the McDonald’s off Jupiter Rd. and President George Bush Turnpike. That’s where these speeds were conducted.

  • besweeet

    Just imagine what the speeds could be once the proper backhaul is in order. *Also droooooooools*

    • Joe

      Absolutely! And just wait till they upgrade the existing 2×2 MIMO to 4×4 MIMO which achieves 300Mbps download. :)

  • DoDaDum

    Time to drop the landline once this gets to where I am!

    • Joe

      Well said! :)

    • Stupidog

      Why does the speed of data have any bearing on whether or not you need a landline?

  • Antoine Bohannon

    Is there an android app to test this?

    • Joe

      Yes, and it’s already built into most devices. It’s called Debug Screen. You have to dial a special code in the phone app to access it. Each device varies on the specific code but you can dial *#197328640# then tap “UMTS” and find “Basic Information.”

      • steveb944

        Didn’t work on my Nexus 5

        • Joe

          Try this code: ##3424#

        • steveb944

          Didn’t work either. I think I either have a bad connection or code. I’ll search for the right one. Thanks

        • Joe

          Sorry to hear that. They must have locked it from users accessing it. Glad to help! :)

        • besweeet

          Let us know if you happen to find one. Can’t find any real cell network info on the Nexus 5 either.

        • Daniel

          Actually, I think the code is *#*#4636#*#*. It is on most Nexus devices, anyway.

        • TemplarofLTE

          That worked for me, Daniel, on the HTC One! Thank you so much.
          I can finally force “LTE only.” *evil grin*

        • Guest

          Remember, if you do this, you may not be able to make or receive calls. The device has to fall back to GSM/UMTS to make and receive calls.

        • TemplarofLTE

          Oh, absolutely. I’m aware, and allow the device access to 2G and 3G when I plan to make or receive calls.

    • Sam

      if you just want to test down and up speeds like in the picture, download speedtest.net
      if you want a map of coverage, i recommend sensorly

  • Willie D

    I wonder if SF is a 20×20 city yet

    • Joe

      Keep checking the diagnostic menu. You never know. It may very well just be there. :)

  • Eduardo Espinoza

    I really hope they can keep these speeds once more people jump on the network. Plano is a suburb near Dallas, just last month I was getting speeds of 40-50 Mbps down on average there on LTE. Frisco which is another suburb near Dallas is the same you always get 40+ down. But unfortunately once you enter Dallas those speeds are reduced to maybe 14-20 Mbps down which sucks. Suburbs always have the best speeds hahaha

    • Joe

      Won’t be too much longer. Dallas is a very large market and has the proper backhaul to support the full capabilities of this new LTE. Right now, most towers are capped at 50% capacity, as was stated by the execs when it was first launched. With everything required in place and the bandwidth cap removed, we’ll see some pretty incredible stuff. :)

      • Jonson

        Is the LTE network better than the HSDPA network? Whenever I’m in Dallas, the network becomes almost unusable during peak hours.

        • Eemeli Saarelainen

          Yes, theoretically.

        • Eduardo Espinoza

          I use the iPhone 5 so I couldn’t give you first hand experience if it is faster or not sorry. But I can tell that inside of Dallas is network is very flakey and very slow in different parts of the city. Usually jumps very frequently between LTE and 4G

        • Joe

          LTE actually has slower theoretical max speeds than what HSPA+ 21 and DC-HSPA+ 42 can achieve using the same amount of spectrum, however, LTE is much more efficient in delivering the bandwidth/speeds and lower ping/latency to the device, unlike HSPA+/DC-HSPA+. Don’t get me wrong. HSPA+ is a great network to offer. LTE is just more efficient in the way it operates which is why it’s so desirable for both GSM and CDMA carriers.

    • Bob Archer

      I find it funny how people can say 14-20 Mbps “sucks”. At home I have FiOS which is 25Mbps down. We have excellent speed with 4 laptops, 1 desktop, a Roku which is usually streaming from Netflix. Why would you need more then 10Mbps on a cell phone?

      • Eduardo Espinoza

        Sorry I should’ve clarified my statement above, I meant that it sucks that the speeds reduce dramatically from going to the suburbs and entering the city.

        • Bob Archer

          Got it. Not much you can do about that though. The more people using the towers, the slower things will get. ;)

  • Bori

    Super Jealous…. LOL

    • Joe

      What market are you in?

      • Bori

        Non Lte Market (Cincinnati) I’d be happy with half of these 70′s I’m seeing lol.

        • Joe

          Well, hopefully T-Mobile can get you guys started with some LTE pretty soon. :)

        • Bori

          Thanks Joe, we are all hoping. And hoping its good, to compensate for the wait :-)

        • JB45

          Whats the highest speed have you seen. Im in Mariemont and I normally see 7 ish to 10mbps. I did peak at 13 yesterday.

        • Bori

          Ok, let’s try this again lol. The highest I have gotten in Covington has been 12.5 and that was last night. But normally it’s ranges from 2mb to 5mb depending where I am at in the house. Curiously, I was playing some videos on my phone at around 12 midnight, and all of the sudden I went from 5 bars to one, and dbm’s in the -110′s. Needless to say no speed whatsoever. Did a soft reset, took the sim card out and nothing. That lasted about 45 minutes, it came back, after loosing complete data connection, 4G and 2G for a few minutes, that’s when I peaked at 12.5 . This morning it was still somewhat faster than the normal 4 or so than I normally get. I was hoping to wake to some LTE LOL. But I am hoping it’s a sign.

        • sidekicker89

          Maybe T-Mobile can buy Cincinnati Bell’s spectrum but keep the company around.. That way both carriers can benefit from the new LTE coverage!

        • Bori

          That would be nice, they both could use it here. :-)

        • Bori

          They should buy them over and get rid of them period lol. Cinci Bell has been causing problems for quite sometime even with other carriers. Fine if their services were great, but they’re not.

  • steveb944

    Man this is pretty exciting stuff. I’ll probably start seeing this in South Florida early next year.

    • Joe

      Most likely, yes. :)

    • samsavoy

      I was in South Florida this summer and got 60-70mbps on LTE.

  • Alex Zapata

    How do I view the channel width on WP8? Field test ##3282# only lets me see whether I’m connected to LTE and whether it’s idle or not.

  • sidekicker89

    I hope T-Mobile buys AWS spectrum from Aloha! They cover markets like Cincinnati!

    • CJ powers

      Who’s aloha

      • sidekicker89

        Aloha is just another company that owns spectrum.. I don’t think they are a carrier though but they own licenses for AWS spectrum in most of Ohio and other places.

    • KingCobra

      Yeah Cincinnati is pretty much the only major city still without LTE. TMO is very spectrum constrained in that market.

      • Trevnerdio

        Seriously? That’s really sad…

        • Drew

          T-Mob has plenty of spectrum in Cinci – they just need to move HSPA+ to their PCS spectrum and then AWS is clear for 2×10 deployment. I suspect the refarm is underway (and time consuming) – when done, LTE will get lit up *fast*.

  • So stupid

    This is such a stupid move, as is the extremely aggressive rollout of LTE.

    They do this as the majority of the rest of the country TOILS in 2G and massive deadzones.

    4G Vs. LTE at TMo is a joke, since both are very fast, and in many cases, equally fast. They are wasting time and enormous amounts of money on publicity stunts and bragging rights to keep shareholders happy and resumes stuffed with meaningless achievements.

    • sidekicker89

      They need more spectrum too though!

    • S. Ali

      Majority of the country lives in cities.

      • samsavoy

        Majority of the country leaves their house.

    • Adrayven

      Thats like saying it’s stupid to walk, when you don’t have any other means to do anything else. They have no spectrum to ‘expand’ .. thats what the 3 BILLION dollars is about.. more spectrum .. quit trolling.

      They got the room in areas to do 20×20, let them! no point in just letting it sit there!

    • UMA_Fan

      I think they are making the right moves. Tmobile needs to overcome the negative network perception problem. They are basically beating Verizon at their own game since they basically advertised LTE to the masses for them.

    • besweeet

      Majority of the country, in terms of land, maybe, but in terms of population? Nope. They go where the most people are. They’ll work on 2G eventually.

    • JaswinderSinghJammu

      What service do you have? If you still have T Mobile then you are the one who needs to make a change, you shouldn’t expect t Mobile to put up a tower based on where you go. If you still have t mobile I would suggest you switch to ATT or Verizon

      • Tired of Edge & GPRS

        You are right, he should switch. People are voting with their pocketbooks and they are not voting for T-Mobile. Verizon and ATT have 3 times as many subscribers. Spin it anyway you like, they are losing in the marketplace. The only issue the big two are having is trying to support all those customers.

        • KingCobra

          Are you sure about that? As of the last 2 quarters TMO gained more customers than the other 3 carriers combined. The mighty AT&T even lost customers unless you add in tablets. So they are voting with their pocketbooks and they are voting TMO. Yes it sucks that rural areas don’t have 3G or LTE, but the majority of Americans live in metro areas and TMO is obviously working for the millions that are fleeing the other carriers.

    • fsured

      I understand and experience the frustration of the 2g vs 4g vs LTE coverage. But the company can’t move spectrum licenses around from areas where it is dense to areas where it isn’t so that they can expand. This is the limitation the company has to overcome and until then they have to continue growing, upgrading where they can to keep profits coming in, and prevent the company from shutting down. If the company shuts down then we all lose whatever coverage you live in and lower prices. When they can get licenses to cover 2g areas or expand further into urban areas they will.

      The leaked possibility of buying spectrum from Verizon is promising for those stuck in 2g areas. The details when released will explain it all. If the purchases are covering the 2g locations then things will improve. If it only adds to covered metropolitan areas I suggest leaving T-Mobile if you want better signal. It stinks to have to pay more but at least you can use your phone to match your needs. Saving money may not be wroth the headache and frustration.

  • vinnyjr

    T-Mobile is putting up new towers faster than a rabbit gets fu—-. Testing their new LTE Advanced Hardware is a must, how the hell else are they going to know if it is set up and working as it should??? All the LTE towers that T-Mobile is installing has been built with the newest LTE Advanced Hardware. Being the last Carrier to start going the LTE route they have found themselves in the position to be able to use the latest and greatest LTE Hardware, this equipment wasn’t available to Verizon and the other Carriers when they built their systems. Because of that look at what has happened to Verizon, they are bottle necked themselves to pathetic slow speeds. T-Mobile has the latest and greatest LTE Advanced Hardware. T-Mobile is expanding very fast, this time next year T-Mobile will be almost everywhere. I have never been happier with a Carrier than I have been with T-Mobile. Thank You T-Mobile for the last 8 years of service and it keeps getting better.

    • fsured

      Correct. The hardware T-Mobile installed during their upgrade to HSPA+ was their path to LTE. They don’t need to replace any hardware like Verizon, maybe even ATT since they stopped HSPA+ development, since the upgrades they did can lead to LTE/LTE-Advanced with software upgrades and network tweaks or continue on for faster HSPA+. They were building the LTE network all along but needed the re-farming and spectrum allocations to officially launch it. I never believed the claim that they had no path to LTE. The path was there technology wise and all they needed was the spectrum which they got. They also installed the back-haul at these locations to support all of this and don’t have to go back and do it again either. If they wanted to they could even take HSPA+ much further than 42mb. Exciting times “IF” you live in a metro area.

      • Joe

        That’s what I’ve been asking for as well. Would love to see 3GPP Release 9 MIMO-DC-HSPA+ out in the wild. 84Mbps without the need of additional spectrum. Only requires addition of 2×2 MIMO just like their LTE. :)

    • Tired of Edge & GPRS

      New towers? You mean new antennas? They definitely are not building new towers. Their outlying and rural coverage is still terrible. Also, they still are not done refarming or upgraded their existing antennas.

  • Diver Dan

    I could care less about 20+20 LTE. T-Mobile’s major problem is Edge and GPRS service on interstate highways between major cities. The Edge service isn’t even up to snuff. Either the their cell sites are way overloaded or the back haul is so bad that you can’t get decent speeds. I don’t need 20+20 speeds on the road, just something usable.

    • Sherman Davis

      I completely agree with your assessment. We have consistent download speeds of 20+Mbps in Orange County, but as soon as you travel outside of the county in more rural areas of LA and OC, the speeds drop down to something that is almost unusable. When traveling to Utah on the 15 freeway, all of my friends you had iPhones on At&T and Verizon networks had no problems streaming videos and browsing the internet. I couldn’t even open up an internet page. Very frustrating, but hopefully, T-Mobile will get their act together in the rural areas of the US.

      • Libo

        The biggest issue lies in the back-hauls. AT&T and Verizon have vast networks, both being major ISPs in many markets. Them having there own fibers networks to tap into plays a huge part in providing high speed wireless access nationwide.

        T-Mobile would have to lease lines from some wholesale provider and doing that in rural areas or along highways can get really expensive.

        • samsavoy

          That’s really not the issue. Verizon has their own fiber and is the LEC in my area and uses Comcast fiber for all their cell sites around. Any half-decent cableco is going to have fiber available.

    • Jake Walker

      Okay, I”m just curious,though, how many of us could really benefit from such speeds while driving? Other than passengers, I guess…

      • Joe

        Not true. I use T-Mobile LTE as my home internet. Works great and never had a problem. Even run Vonage off of it. you know how much I’m saving? lol! :)

      • Diver Dan

        Streaming audio from my favorite home town radio station. Using a navigation app that needs to update its data periodically.

      • Trevnerdio

        Using your mobile hotspot for the world to consume! :D

  • GinaDee

    Hoping SoCal gets 20×20 soon.

  • JaswinderSinghJammu

    Does anyone has a list of the markets that would get the 20X20 eventually or the top markets?

    • Joe

      You would have to look at every individual market’s available AWS 1700/2100MHz spectrum. There’s different blocks of AWS that T-Mobile owns and they all must be contiguous blocks in order to launch 20+20. But, it’s safe to say most markets that originally launched with 10+10 will most likely get 20+20 by mid 2014. Hope this helps. :)

      • JaswinderSinghJammu

        Thanks Joe, I am hopeful now since I am in San Jose CA and San Jose was the first 7 markets launched in March 2013.

      • fsured

        To add to your comment about spectrum and how right it is, Dallas got a big boost in spectrum available from the purchase of MetroPC. Houston would be another great test location since there was also a huge boost from the deal. Austin which is in between the two, not so much. Our LTE coverage in downtown is not considered officially launched. This statement came from a T-Mobile tech support rep in September. My first LTE phone and thought something was wrong with it by showing 1 bar of LTE and delivering very poor performance (1-1.5mb down if it doesn’t drop signal and display network communication error). Yet it is full bars when set to HSPA+ in the downtown area and I receive speeds at least double of what I get on LTE.

        • Joe

          Bummer Austin didn’t benefit from the deal. Hopefully they’ll get the LTE there worked out. Thanks for sharing this info! :)

  • dontsh00tmesanta

    Wow lets fix the throttling problem for large files first yea

    • besweeet

      That would be nice. Seems to be happening to more people in more places.

      • dontsh00tmesanta

        Yep

  • JB

    They’re doing something if not just a little tweaking here in KC! A little under a month ago at my house I was getting 15-17 down. Now I’m getting at least 26.. It’s consistently hitting 27-31…

    • Joe

      It may just be better fiber optic backhaul. Doesn’t necessarily mean spectrum upgrade but is worth watching in any case. :)

  • fsured

    Is LTE technology limited by the LTE hardware in phone regarding download/upload speeds or does the technology allow it to receive an LTE signal and the performance depends on the network capabilities? If you had a phone that had a HSPA+ 21mb radio then having it run on the HSPA+ 42mb network wouldn’t have allowed for faster speeds since it wasn’t capable of it. Basically I’m asking if they could in theory get a 150mb download network up and running would we all need new handsets or would today’s LTE phones work to get the faster downloads?

    • Joe

      That’s correct. Most devices are only LTE UE Category 3 capable which is 100Mbps down and 50Mbps up. A select few devices have been enabled Category 4 which can take advantage of the 150Mbps

  • Nick

    Dang that’s fast! That’s about 18x faster than my home internet lol

    • Joe

      And it only gets better with Magenta. :)

      • Nick

        Definitely! :)

  • Tmo1082

    I noticed these speeds in the Frisco area of the DFW metroplex when the CEO came to town. Its nice to see T-Mobile showing up AT&T in their own back yard. Hopefully it will make its way to the Fort Worth side of the metroplex soon.

    • Joe

      Doesn’t surprise me it’s live in Frisco as well since that’s where their Dallas based HQ is. Glad it’s being rolled out so rapidly though. :)

  • NYCTheBronx

    Yay. Best news ever today! =) No wonder last night I was pulling 20bps on my Google S4. I usually get 3-5 mbps on T-Mobile’s 4G LTE here on Wilshire Blvd, Los Angeles CA. Great to hear that T-Mobile is testing out the 20+20′s. Now I can’t wait for John Legre to speak about 4G LTE Advanced. He said earlier this year that there would be a talk about 4G LTE Advanced before the end of the year. And no, T-Mobile’s network is not congested. Some people are complaining T-Mobile has a congested network. Well, T-Mobile said way before they even launched their LTE network that it will be operated differently from the other 3 major carriers so it won’t end up being congested. LTE-A, can’t wait. Have a great day guys, cuz now I do. Thanks for this post. =)

    • Joe

      You’re certainly welcome! Glad this brightened up the day for many readers out there. Hopefully by LTE-Advanced, he means something over 300Mbps LTE since that’s when LTE actually becomes LTE-Advanced. :)

    • KingCobra

      Well one of the benefits that T-MO has over the other carriers in regards to LTE is that the AWS spectrum they are using for it has much better capacity than the lower frequency spectrum that VZW and AT&T are using.

      • Trevnerdio

        Buttt also crappier building penetration :(

    • Trevnerdio

      20bps?!? D; quick, someone call 1993 and get this guy help!

      • TemplarofLTE

        Trololol.

  • kev2684

    shouldn’t it push over 100mbps? or is backhaul not there yet?

    • Joe

      Backhaul probably needs work, but beings that the iPhone is LTE UE Category 3, 100Mbps is the most you’ll get out of it.

  • superg05

    being in Dallas I’ll admit i am a good bit annoyed that they never finished building out Lte in the whole area

    • fsured

      What are you referring to that they never finished?

      • superg05

        they only gave some areas lte not the whole city giant multi-mile gaps or not at all i was saying i wish they would finish what they started people so quick to take offense I’ve been with t-mobile over 10 year love them for the most part

    • sidekicker89

      They aren’t even finished yet.. Dallas is a big market and also you’re lucking because it is also a Metro PCS market which means there is plenty of spectrum there for very fast LTE!

    • Paul

      ??? What do you mean? I got double speeds when they announced it was officially out in Dallas.

      • superg05

        good for you glad to hear

  • remister

    And our investment of Unlimited Data, just got sweeter.

    • besweeet

      Not if people keep getting throttled like a lot are recently.

      • NYCTheBronx

        Throttled? You mean those that don’t have unlimited data plans right? I have everything unlimited. Matter in fact, just last month I used 100GB of data and was never once throttled. I’m planning on going 100GB+ data this month. Cheers.

        • besweeet

          Throttled, as in those who get really fast speeds during the first short while of a download, and then it greatly drops off, sometimes failing altogether. Gathering up all the info on this to submit it to Cam for a post.

        • Brad C

          They always said “Unlimited” users would have a lower priority on the network, and it’s in your T&C.
          The only time I have what you describe happen is if i’m on ASU Campus where there are ~60k people in one small area all day. T-Mobile is very popular here, so they have to manage the traffic somehow or else we’d all be getting blocks and fails because a few people trying to download GB’s of data on the same sector at the same time.

        • besweeet

          What people have been complaining about recently is just that: recent. It’s different from getting consistently slow speeds due to capacity issues in populated areas. There are complaints all over the web about it as well. Speeds start out as fast as possible, then come down to a very slow crawl.

  • breenda

    Please bring this to los angeles lte sloowed down alot in LA , when they first brought lte here speeds were 5-10 dwn 5 to 10 up now lte even with full bars outside are 1-2 mbps dwn 2-3 up i have screen shots from today to prove it hspa is faster 10 to 12 dwn 2to 3 up i also have pics to prove it lte is alot slower i just gotta find a way to upload them on here . Also does anyone know if the lg g2 and xperia z are gonna be able to take advantage of these faster speeds?

    • Scarfacemario

      T-Mobile upgraded my area to 10+10 I have 2bars of LTE Running 25Mbps down and 21Mbps up consistently I live in South Gate California its coming!

    • jimmiekain

      I got 37 down and 19 up on my nexus5 yesterday on the ramp where the 57 and 60fwy meet in diamond bar.

      On another note, when / if this 20 x 20 stuff comes to my neck of the woods will it work with all LTE tmo phones like the Nexus5, gs4 htc one etc. Or, will it be like sprint spark where it only works on the new phones?

      • breenda

        That is one of my main questions will all tmobile phones work with this 20×20 thing? I berly bought my lg g2 i hope it does or else i would be pissed off lol because ever since i switched to tmobile from at&t i been seing slower lte speeds ,people can talk bad about att but in LA its lte was FAST 15-20 DWN 10 to 15 up something i never seen on tmobiles lte since i switched on there hspa i seen high dwnload speeds but upload speeds are pretty bad , only reason i switched was att was getting really expensive n no unlimited data .. but i m missing them fast att speeds..

        • Joe

          You’re in luck as the LG G2 is LTE UE Category 4 capable. This means you’ll get the full 150Mbps down and 50Mbps up. The only thing you’ll miss out on is 75Mbps upload as it lacks support for 64QAM modulation on the uplink. Hope this helps. :)

        • breenda

          Ahh thank u very mucho u made my night i guess ill just wait till tmobile does something to make there lte fast in LA cuz like i said plenty times i cant take it anymore with slow speeds.

        • peralta61

          Hey I work in burbank and I get 30 down and 20 up so it’s fast …. Also I live in downtown by dodger stadium with to bars of lte I get 25 down and 15 up

      • TemplarofLTE

        They should all work on 20+20 MHz LTE. It’s all in the AWS Band, which all of the phones you mentioned support. :)

      • eneka

        The internet is always superfast in that area, i was at the McDonald on fairway when my friend tested his SGS3 with Verizon LTE and got ~20 up &down, So i tested my Nexus 5 and on ~30up and ~20 down!

    • Fire Ball

      T-Mobile has started to turn on 2×10 MHz LTE in LA so speeds should be much faster as soon as they provision the backhaul on each cell site! :)

  • joe

    thats so cool…….not!!! the edge in my town will not even do a speed test its so slow

    • sahib102 .

      while im happy for T-Mobile now testing 2×20 in cities im still in the same boat as you only having 2g in my city so I decided to ask tmobile if they had plans to upgrade the city I am in and they said they had no plans :( so im kind of bumed out but oh well its something to look forward to if and when they finally upgrade my town to 3g or lte :D

      • TemplarofLTE

        Which city is that?

        • bakgwailo

          “city”

        • sahib102 .

          its in northern cali its right on I-5 its Orland California

      • Captain Obvious

        Were you dropped on your head as a child? Why the f@&k would you stay with T-Mobile if they only have 2G and no plans to upgrade? The low price? If you care about fast mobile data, cough up the few extra bucks and switch to a carrier or MVNO that has 3g/4g in your area.

        • sahib102 .

          well im not complaining because the cities I travel to have either lte or hspa+42 :P

    • Paul

      They are trying to buy some spectrum from Verizon that will allow better coverage in rural areas. There was an article this week on here about it.

  • jimmiekain

    I see some people calling it 20×20 while others are saying 20+20 Is there a difference? I’ve also seen 10+10 and 10×10. Can anyone shed some light on this for me?

    • Joe

      It’s a simple mathematical equation. People that say 10×10 or 20×20 are incorrect as that would insinuate 100MHz (10×10) or 400MHz (20×20) of dedicated spectrum, which is far from possible right now. The correct terminology would be 2x10MHz or 2x20MHz as the “2″ = channel upstream and channel downstream and then multiplied by the amount of spectrum used for both channels. So, if I have a 40MHz LTE network, it would imply 20MHz on the downlink and 20MHz on the uplink (2x20MHz or 20+20MHz). Hope this helps clear things up a bit. :)

      • sahib102 .

        beat me to it XD hahaha

        • Joe

          Haha! Sorry. Saw the comment and thought I’d post a quick response. :)

        • TemplarofLTE

          Hey, Joe,

          I was hoping to find the spectral depth for the networks in my market (Lexington, KY).

          It doesn’t show up on this Debug / Testing Menu on my HTC One that I accessed with *#*#4636#*#*

          like it did on your iPhone’s Field Test Mode (“Download Bandwidth 20 MHz”).

          Any idea know how to display the amount of spectrum / frequency bandwidth on Android?

        • Joe

          Hmm… sounds like it’s locked from the HTC One. Try dialing *#*#3424#*#* and see if that works. If not, I’m not too sure what to tell you. Sorry. :(

        • eneka

          I’ve been trying to find it on my Nexus 5 as well, doesn’t seem like there’s this feature for android phones..

        • TemplarofLTE

          It’s not among those tools. Thank you, anyway, though! :)

      • jimmiekain

        Thank you! Are you on Google+?

        • Joe

          I have one but don’t use it. Not a fan of Google+. I’m just on twitter or my website itweakios(dot)com.

      • http://twitter.com/SParKlngCyaNide SparklingCyanide

        You’re absolutely right Joe.

  • NinoBr0wn

    Jeez that’s what I get at home.

  • Jake Williams

    Where did you go David????

    • TemplarofLTE

      He left the blog and didn’t say why. :-(

  • CJ powers

    I wonder when nyc will get that

  • Paul

    I can confirm this, I got 67.29 Mbps this morning during rush hour in Plano, which is right above Dallas.
    This explains why I was getting 4G for the past week. I LIKE!

  • Matt

    All of a sudden I’ve noticed close to 30Mbps download speed in the Greater Philadelphia area

    • JJ

      Seeing 40 in Houston now.

  • JJ

    I get the Field test serving cell info on my Iphone but some of field have no number in it. For example Download Bandwidth is blank why? i have LTE of a 40 in speed test. Thanks

    • Joe

      You have to get some data flow going. Try toggling airplane mode on and off in the swipe up menu while in Serving a Cell Info. That should do the trick. :)

  • el_perezo

    Must be nice seeing those speeds. I feel like it’s false advertising here in south Texas (Mcallen). Yeah, I see the lte on my phone but I average a paltry 5mb down and 0.8 upload.
    Wow <(sarcastically)

    • Joe

      Your area most likely lacks proper backhaul. It’s not T-Mobile’s fault. When it becomes available, rest assured that you’ll see much better speeds. :)

  • Jesse James

    why does my phone need to DL at 70mbs in cities when I can’t even download a picture messeage in 80% of the country?????????

    • Pesos

      Because advancing technology makes older technology cheaper and it allows for easier expansion in rural areas. Tmobile has to rely on technology advancements since they can’t afford to put cell towers in every corner like Verizon can.

      • Jesse James

        but we can already stream HD videos on our phones using existing 4G. Sounds like Tmo is more worried about being able to say they are “faster” than the other guys in a commercial instead of catering to what customers actually need in order to get the most out of our devices.

        • Pesos

          We pay the premium for the technology to be on our phones, but they pay the premium for the technology to actually be available in certain areas. Cities have a high density of people, so 1 tower might cost them $10 per customer to maintain, while in a rural area, it could cost them $20+ dollars per customer to maintain. So what they have to do is make the best technology available to high density cities so that more people switch and invest to their company, making their profits soar allowing them to invest in better technology for rural folk to be able to have internet in low density areas.

          Think about it economically. Most customers pay between 30-50 a month to be with Tmobile. An upkeep of $10 per person already costs 20%-34% of their profits. Expanding to rural areas like crazy would eat up 70% of their profits, or more. Now, compare that to Verizon. Most people pay between $50 to $150 to be with Verizon. This allows Verizon to expand like crazy because their customers are not worried about price. So they can easily afford to spend $20-30 dollars more per person to maintain towers than Tmobile can.

          So while Verizon is able to grow by just throwing money around, Tmobile can grow by using money wisely. I just barely got 3G in my rural area, two weeks ago. Tmobile is smart enough to expand with very little money.

  • Christian Sotelo

    how are you able to see that info on the iPhone?

    • Pesos

      It’s an app called SpeedTest. You can test your current internet connection, be it wifi or cell service.

      • Christian Sotelo

        i know that part

    • enkay1

      Dial *3001#12345#* and press call. You will be taken to the Field Test app.

      • Christian Sotelo

        oh okay thanks, is there a way to do that in android?

  • HeatFan4110

    I am disgruntled T-Mobile customer. They literally told me they won’t fix the towers in my area anytime soon since they are weak compared other cities nationwide. They keep on lying to me on their 1-800 # for my unlock code with promises to call me back and email me. How about they stabilize their network instead of advancing for a small portion of users when people constantly complain about the lack of quality coverage. Smh T-Mobile. Get your crap together or I’ll go to AT&T Prepaid.

  • Jeffrey Wang

    It’s impressive that I get a 20×20 in McKinney, Texas where the tower is crowded with T-Mobile customers and STILL get a decent connection. I’ve tried speed test but I don’t get 70Mbps…

  • James Cook

    I just got a bump in speeds from 4-5 down (2-3 indoors) to 12-14 down (8-10 indoors) in North Richland Hills, TX (TCC NE campus area). Just about a mile up the road i can hit 33 down outside.

  • KingCobra

    The FCC will probably approve that one with ease. AT&T buying Leap doesn’t hurt competition in the marketplace like the TMO buyout would have. TMO also already stated earlier this summer that they never had any interest in acquiring Leap.