T-Mobile Will Debut LTE-Advanced “Features” In 2013 According To Exec

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T-Mobile’s plan to rollout LTE-Advanced features will begin before the end of 2013 according to comments from Dave Mayo, senior VP of technology, strategy, finance and development. Speaking at Light Reading’s Backhaul Strategies for Mobile Operators, Mayo said “We’ll begin rolling out LTE-advanced features later this year.”

Mayo wouldn’t specify exactly what “features” meant however, leaving us to imagine and hypothesize. Some general LTE-Advanced updates “include “carrier aggregation” or a technique that bonds together two or more separate radio channels to get faster speeds; two-by-two smart antenna arrays — also known as 2×2 multiple input, multiple output (MIMO) — for faster uplink and downlink; and relay nodes, low-power base stations that provide improved coverage and capacity at the cell edge.”

Carrier aggregation is a likely candidate for T-Mobile given the dual-band service T-Mobile runs with both AWS and PCS spectrum. When asked what percentage of antennas T-Mobile expects to upgrade to MIMO this year, Mayo would only laugh and say “a few.” Mayo says T-Mobile will focus on upgrading its macro network with LTE: “We’re upgrading about 37,000 of our 52,000 cell sites,” he confirmed. This will include tower-top electronics for about 3Db more of gain for a stronger 4G signal.

This conversation coincides with a similar discussion earlier this month as Kevin Fitchard at GigaOM who discovered T-Mobile’s “plan to blanket its network with extra antennas to make significant performance gains.” Long story short, Fitchard discovered T-Mobile is looking at 4×2 MIMO which in simple speak means more signals will come to your smartphone and a lot more antennas to pick up your phones weaker return signal. You can read more about T-Mobile’s efforts with 4×2 MIMO here.

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  • Binny Gupta

    This is great, but are they only doing it for lte or 4g?

    • xmiro

      Tower-top electronics and db gain are for everything but coincides with the LTE upgrade/launch. Would be weird if they mimo HSPA+ considering LTE is the future

      • http://twitter.com/SParKlngCyaNide SparklingCyanide

        They already MIMO on HSPA, that’s what HSPA+42 is. They’re going to do the same for even Faster LTE in the future.

        • xmiro

          there you go then

        • jarrod

          No MIMO on HSPA+ would hit 84mbps, double of 42mbps on dual carrier. I doubt the will ever deploy MIMO HSPA+ because the only reason they thought about doing it was because of spectrum constraint, with some AT&T spectrum and Metro they should be set for now.

  • xmiro

    52,000 sites almost overlaps AT&T’s network footprint but only 2G. 37,000 sites means T-Mobile is staying with its mostly metro-area approach then

    Also, T-Mobile gained quite a bit of small cell sites from MetroPCS (which has given Metro some great coverage in the areas where they’re deployed)

    • SouthernBlackNerd

      Remember, ATT/Verizon use a lower frequency spectrum. When you are in the rural part of the country, you are building out for maximum coverage. So while Tmobile may have 52,000, it does not mean that they overlap ATT’s footprint. Maybe the amount of towers, but not footprint.

      • xmiro

        you can see the 2G footprint of T-Mobile, AT&T and Verizon using CellMaps app

    • kalel33

      Have you looked at the coverage map of AT&T vs T-mobile. `They’re nowhere near the footprint of AT&T, let alone overlapping.

      • xmiro

        T-Mobile’s 2G footprint is nearly identical to AT&T, HSPA+ is not obviously

        • steven

          How many sites does At&t have?

        • kalel33

          Look at just the T-mobile coverage but this time without the roaming partners. T-mobile’s actual coverage is tiny when compared to AT&T.

  • Deadeye37

    Sounds good. You know what would sound better? If they said “We’re upgrading about 51,999 of our 52,000 cell sites with LTE.”

    • xmiro

      yeah i was hoping they’d say that but alas. Maybe next year now that they’ll have more cash to play with. Would love to move my in-laws on our account and save boat loads of money

  • Verizonthunder

    Cover all your tower’s to LTE before even thinking about LTE Advance

    • xmiro

      they’re covered already, well the 37k they always focus on

      • Verizonthunder

        HSPA+ does not count all tower’s!!! Half of mid upper Maryland is Edge only!

        • xmiro

          that’s what i just said, amigo!!!
          52k towers total, 37k towers have HSPA+ and LTE.
          LTE just hasnt’ been turned on everywhere yet, it’s a staggered rollout.
          There’s HSPA+ coverage surrounding Baltimore metro area which is part of the 37k cell sites, T-Mobile currently isn’t upgrading rural areas

          !!!
          !
          !

        • Verizonthunder

          I will end it with this last statement. One until their is more transparency on LTE roll out’s your comment is invalid. You have no clue about tower’s and coverage unless you are a T-Mobile Executive for the corporation stop throwing random number’s on tower upgrade’s

        • xmiro

          You clearly can’t follow.

          The CellMaps app shows the native coverage of all networks.
          On it, the T-Mobile 4G HSPA+ coverage map will give you an idea where T-Mobile will launch LTE – LTE and HSPA+ will most likely overlap since that is the 37k sites the excutive mentioned above in the interview. The HSPA+ upgrade was also to 37k cell sites and no more
          The T-Mobile 2G app shows you T-Mobile’s voice covera

    • Jim Mack

      Heck I would just be happy just to get 3G.

    • turtle6988

      The towers are being upgrade to LTE Advance whe mm the equipment is installed. Just a software upgrade to the equipment to activate it

  • Jeff

    LTE here in Daytona is slower than 4G. My 4G pushes 20mbps and LTE pushed 10mbps. They say that anything over 10mbps IS 4G/LTE. A friend has LTE on another carrier and is pushing 60mbps!!

    • kev2684

      it’s not even officially out yet. how about wait after they’re done in your area first before complaining?

  • Anthony V Cannata

    I’m loving my 4G LTE here in Boston, MA

  • Desmond Foucha

    ok i’m dumb with this kinda stuff so what does this mean more 3G/4G coverage cause t-mobile coverage more the road is pretty bad well not but most of it’s 2G

    • xmiro

      Probably not. He said 37k cell sites will be upgraded – that’s mostly the metro areas near the bigger cities

      • Roger Sales

        Was it 37,000 indefinitely or 37,000 ‘right now’ though? (the latter is more optimistic,obviously.)

        • xmiro

          Given that they only upgraded 37k cell sites to HSPA+, unless things have changed, it’s probably 37k cell sites indefinitely.
          It’s also possible that they might be having spectrum constraints in many of the other markets, or just don’t want to spend the capital because of the high-frequency on which voice and hspa+/lte reside (1900Mhz and 1700/2100Mhz AWS) for which they would would need more towers to cover rural-ish areas

        • CPPCrispy

          Going along with what you said, T-Mobile might be waiting to see what happens with the 600Mhz auction. If T-Mobile gets some of the low frequency spectrum then they most likely upgrade some of the 2G towers to LTE on 600Mhz. Also by then VoLTE will most likely be in the testing phase so when/if they deploy LTE on 600Mhz they would not have to upgrade all their towers in the 600Mhz coverage area to provide a fast fallback (LTE to HSPA+) for voice.

        • xmiro

          Possibly, but that 600Mhz is not a given. For one, some or many stations are fighting it because of the re-packing required and the interference issues that are being discovered. DTV is already very bad in some places.
          Also, it could take up to 10 years to free up the spectrum. There are only a handfull of crews who climb and service TV towers so the whole transition, if it ever comes to that, will probably not be quick at all. The FCC does say ‘within 10 years’ to – so 2023!
          I really want T-Mobile to expand the network, my inlaws are right on the edge of Tmo’s native network would be great if we can rope them in, and add Tmo data without overages but I’m starting to think HSPA+ and LTE might not be expanded. Unless Dish buys T-Mobile, adds their 40MHz of AWS-4 spectrum and goes rural where alot of Dish customers are.

  • Jon Peake

    Would this require an LTE-A phone to get the LTE-A “features?”

    • http://twitter.com/SParKlngCyaNide SparklingCyanide

      Maybe that’s why they’re calling them “Features” so that current LTE devices can take advantage of them without upgrading to an Advanced device, it’s a thought at least.

      • Jon Peake

        We can only hope… Not gonna wait around until they start selling the LTE-A version of the S4 in the US

  • noc007

    I’m glad they were smart enough to select LTE-Advanced capable hardware. It only needs a firmware update at most to enable the newer standard.

  • Aurizen

    we would have to buy new phones to support…

  • Jay

    Does any of this fix building penetration, which is pretty horrible with T-Mobile

    • xmiro

      Should somewhat. 3db signal gain from the new antennas + they’ll deploy more smaller cell sites instead of only large, tall towers only

    • TechHog

      They need lower frequency spectrum for that, and they’ll probably get it in the next auction.

      • Trevnerdio

        And with that, another slew of phones to be compatible with the oddball frequencies…yayyy…

        • TechHog

          What are they supposed to do about that? Go back in time to tell phone manufacturers to include the frequencies? I don’t see the point in complaining about something beyond anyone’s control.

        • Trevnerdio

          T-Mobile has almost never used standard frequencies. It makes getting the latest phone technology difficult.

        • TechHog

          Getting spectrum isn’t the most simple process. Honestly, I think the FCC needs to cmake at least one low frequency band that’s handed to all four major carriers.

        • Trevnerdio

          Agreed

  • LittleKing

    when does t-mo plan to be done with lte roll out in time for LTE-A

  • kev2684

    i sure hope Galaxy S4 and HTC One and all devices onwards has support for this. we don’t need to see another version of those next year like what happened with the Galaxy S III.

    • Trevnerdio

      Like I said above, LTE-A is all on the towers’ end, no new hardware required for end user. It’s backwards compatible.

  • JaswinderSinghJammu

    I am hoping S4 is LTE-A capable or upgradable when they launch the advance

    • Trevnerdio

      It will be.

    • superg05

      no but it will make your phones network connection a good bit faster so don’t worry about it to much

  • Ali Ataya

    There better not be a new s4 coming out. I will roundhouse kick tmobiles CEO in the face if that happens.

    • Trevnerdio

      For what? LTE-A is backwards compatible with LTE.

    • superg05

      Samsung on Wednesday unveiled
      an LTE-Advanced version of its Galaxy S 4 flagship smartphone, which
      will connect to networks that provide double the speed of today’s 4G LTE
      networks, the company said.

      LTE-Advanced is basically an upgrade from 4G LTE. U.S. carriers have
      discussed plans for LTE-Advanced, but are currently still rolling out
      their 4G LTE networks. When they make the switch to LTE-Advanced,
      however, a phone like the Galaxy S4 LTE-A would be able to take
      advantage of those boosted networks speeds.

  • marti ruiz

    Living lte here in san Diego

  • drklahn

    I dunno. After having LTE in Chicago for the last couple of weeks, there really isnt much of a difference between HSPA+ and LTE for an end user perspective. Web sites load quickly and can stream hi-def video just fine. I’m wondering if the $4B could have been better spent on upgrading 2G areas as well.

    • Oscar Alvarado

      LTE is primarily just so other carriers don’t use it as bragging rights against T-mobile and for those people that believe LTE is superior to T-Mobile’s HSPA+42 network. (Where available)

      • drklahn

        I do find LTE to be slightly more dependable and a lot less ‘spurty’ than HSPA+.But yeah, its all about buzzwords and marketing.

        • Julian C. Taborda

          Actually here in new York I find the Lte to be a million times snappier and reliable. Picture messages go through in a second and latency is like 20-40ms

      • superg05

        wrong LTE is more advanced why wouldn’t it be it’s a latest evolution in networking technology which ping is staggeringly less that hspda+ before seeing 450-700ms was the norm lte 28-35ms which mean no real waiting for pages to load but with the upgraded r10 hardware hspda+ response time is faster now as well so its win win

    • UMA_Fan

      Most tech press were BRUTAL against T-Mobile and their lack of LTE when in reality there’s a small difference in performance between LTE and hspa+. You would think Sprint had the better network reading all these articles while in reality Tmobile had near nationwide hspa+. You can’t accomplish much on a modern smartphone with sprint/Verizon evdo

    • Shahzad Malik

      My Hspa is crap… I don’t get more than 2.5Mbps download with full bars…

      • Trevnerdio

        That sounds like…well…HSPA. You didn’t add the + and it isn’t +, it’s just plain ol’ 7.2mbps HSPA (3G)

    • kevev

      LTE will allow mow users per tower because of efficiency in the data compression compared to HSPA. This should allow T-Mobile to handle more customers before it has an adverse affect on data throughput compared to HSPA. This will allow T-Mobile to pull a better profit and hopefully allow better prices, higher data caps, less dropped calls, and happier customers.

  • catch 22

    I’m no expert but my educated guess is that our current phones will support carrier aggregation it has nothing to do with the phones but instead the available antennas that emit the signal the phone receives it’s like carpeting the same areas with double the amount of antennas so that your phone could upload and download more simultaneously at least that’s what I got for the little I know and this statement from the article “4×2 MIMO which in simple speak means more signals will come to your smartphone and a lot more antennas to pick up your phones weaker return signal.” if this requires some kind of New lte chipset than there will be some unhappy T-Mobileans

  • rschauby

    Dear T-Mobile,
    We don’t need more speed, we just need more reliable coverage area. I don’t need 50mb/s speed downloads on my cellphone; I’m fine with 8mb/s. Just give it to me EVERYWHERE.

    • Metro PCS

      No kidding! You switch around so much, one second you are LTE or 4G, dirve two miles or tilt you phone wrong and you are on edge or worse no service, especially in the back of store, where T-Mobile high spectrum can penetrate.

    • TechHog

      Why can’t they work on both? Do you really feel that they should just deal with the marketing disadvantage only focus on coverage, thus falling years behind the competition and losing subscribers either way? It makes sense to focus on both. On the PR side, it’s better to talk about LTE and than to say “our coverage is bad so we’re fixing it,” which is why you hear about this more even though coverage is being worked on.

      • fsured

        The problem is T-Mobile is not mentioning that they are addressing the issue. The negative press is already here. There are plenty of articles about which network is better and T-Mobile is falling into 3rd place because their coverage is limited. It’s not because of the speed of the network that has them trailing the other companies but being unable to get signal or access 3g in various locations.

        Yes it makes sense to work on both networks at the same time but customers and people writing reviews don’t know that they actually are doing this.

  • JL

    Ha! They can barely offer a decent “4G” connection in pretty much a decent size city, but they are going to offer Advanced LTE? What a joke, fast speeds for a handful of city, but forget coverage for the rest. SMH

    • Shahzad Malik

      As the saying goes, you get what you pay for. Tmobile is cheap but there is a reason why…

    • SemahjLam

      I’m guessing none of you people have had Sprint …lol I get 10mbps down on 4g and around 15 to 20 on one bar of lte, on Sprint I was lucky to get 300 kbps

    • Trevnerdio

      I live in a relatively small city (Panama City, FL) and my connection is very reliable outdoors (indoors is a different story unless you’re close to a tower…it’s generally all or nothing indoors)

    • jay_max

      Whatever. My “4G” non-LTE phone just got 20.45Mbps down in speeds on HSPA+ here in Seattle. Anyone b*tching about those kinds of speeds on “4G” needs to have their head examined.

  • samsavoy

    “We’re upgrading about 37,000 of our 52,000 cell sites,”

    Back to AT&T

    • TechHog

      Good for you!

    • ZZZ

      I am a little scared because I am on EDGE where I live. (Unlocked AT&T iphone 5) ;/

      • Noah James

        Do you currently get 4G on non unlocked devices? Your area could still be reframed to the 1900mhz band that would allow unlocked phones to work on T-mobiles 3g HSPA+.

    • Trevnerdio

      Sorry to hear that. From what I’ve heard, horrible customer service and crappy, overpriced plans.

      • samsavoy

        Used them for 4 years, had issues with a phone, always got overnighted a replacement for free. Never had a dropped call. I think they spent more on shipping me a new device than what I paid them one month.

        • Trevnerdio

          I hear no dropped calls on AT&T is a rare thing. That’s good

    • Elliott

      BYE!

    • superg05

      that leaves 15,000

  • Shahzad Malik

    Woah… Woah.. Lets not get ahead of ourselves here… Lets first try to get more than ONE bar of signal on LTE in a Starbucks/Our Homes/Shopping Center before we start talking about LTE Advanced. I literally have one bar of LTE here in Addison IL (suburb of Chicago) and if I go down the block from my house all signal cuts out… And here we are talking about LTE Advanced???

    • JB45

      Im sure it will get better once it is official for Chicago

      • Shahzad Malik

        I hope you right…

    • TayshaunBoba

      You have to understand that LTE Advanced is just an umbrella term for a number of different techniques used to increase throughput/spectral efficiency/signal etc. It’s an add on to existing LTE service, like HSPA+ was to standard UMTS. It’s not as if installing LTE Advanced will detract from the current roll out. Actually, the opposite. LTE-A features often IMPROVE signal at the cell edge, meaning it could give you signal and better speeds in Starbucks/homes/shopping centers, etc.

    • xxdrizzyxx

      I agree with you, I live in mesa and I get 1 bar lte if I’m lucky , it’s very spotty & when you do find full bars they go away fast, you litterally can’t walk in a building without dropping to 1 bar or worse hspa+

      • TechHog

        See above.

      • superg05

        lol hspda+ is worse spoiled brat edge is worse

    • TechHog

      That’ll be fixed either when it’s officially launched in your city, or when the 4×2 upgrade rolls out.

      • Paddy_Tanninger_Caddy_Manager

        agreed, they’re still implementing LTE service, June isn’t over yet….

  • Jefferson Josue Morales

    Thank goodness i live in Los Angeles! LTE in Hollywood and 4G everywhere else. Great revolution

  • peralta61

    I hate went people run their mouth just to complain….LTE is not official on most markets …..can you guy just stop complaining…

    • Jefferson Josue Morales

      I agree with you

    • Shahzad Malik

      You do realize we pay money to use this service right? TMOBILE is behind times and they need to get this working.. They should be lucky we are here complaining and not leaving in groups..

      • peralta61

        What are you talking about they been working in los angeles lte and I haven’t gone one day without service …..yes one bar but it still works for me and I heard people with one bar and it works for them so yes it works ..

        • Shahzad Malik

          I go from LTE to 4g to edge all within one block here in Chicago.. my. Comment above was referring to your comment about people complaining.. We have every right to. We pay money for a service behind time

        • TechHog

          The 4×2 upgrade will fix your issue.

        • Bao Bui

          So to sum it all up, you’re calling yourself an idiot for staying with T-Mobile.

        • Shahzad Malik

          I would be if nothing changes.. You must be a fan boy of some sort to realize you are behind the curve with services yet still continue to be a cheerleader… Whose the idiot now? Do you also carry an iPhone and pretend that is the bleeding edge of technology?

        • LC

          Oh yeah in LOS ANGELES,since when does that pollution infested city represent the rest of us? I’m sure you’d be complaining too if it were the other way around. I dont give a flying rats behind, what you get in LOS ANGELES, so if you are getting great service, than shut your trap and quit criticizing!

        • Bao Bui

          Fallacy. You don’t give a flying rats behind about his coverage… same could be said about you.

      • Bao Bui

        soooo T-Mobile put a gun to your head and told you to buy their service?

        • Shahzad Malik

          Nope and that is why I am waiting till the end of the month to see if anything changes with my service and if not I will pay 10 dollars more per month and actually have service where I need it. Unlike you, I need my services to work for business and not for watching child Porn.

        • Bao Bui

          lol really? child porn? oh gosh, guess I struck a nerve. I’m sorry for hurting your feelings.

        • http://www.getintonursing.com/ Jon

          Lol! This is the first time I’ve seen someone drop the child porn bomb for something that couldn’t be more frivolous.

        • LOV3BAS3DCUBANO

          dude i think you just told on yourself about the kiddy smut, smh, youre a capital F for FAIL!!!!

        • Shahzad Malik

          Ooooh good one. You figured it all out

      • LOV3BAS3DCUBANO

        stop being a little (wuf) and sit tight, damn you people need to be patient, you should be grateful T-Mobile still exists and you’re not being forced into the poor house by going to the devil (Verizon) or his advocate (AT&T) just to maintain a wirleless bill.

        • Shahzad Malik

          Man, shut the f up and shut your face. Tmobile is here because of us. They owe us, not the other way around.

        • LOV3BAS3DCUBANO

          oh wow thats mature. shut my face? havent heard that since second grade lmao

  • rob

    Here we go again, first everyone wants to see LTE Advanced so T-MO can have an advantage over the competition. Now everyone is whining about it and the always present coverage issue. They are upgrading 37K of their 52K towers now, which would probably be all the big cities that bring in the most cash, as always. Over time I’m sure they’ll cover more. They’re still upgrading other sites from Edge to 3G and all that other 1900 band modernization plans. Just because they say they’re doing one thing doesn’t mean they’ve stopped doing everything else, it’s just another thing on the list. You guys want some cheese with your whines?

  • peralta61

    I live in echo park and I feel like my signal is better I use to get three bars at home now I get full bars

    • Trevnerdio

      First thing that comes to mind when you say Echo Park is Chuck the TV series…<3

      • Bao Bui

        Sarah sooo fly

  • Jay J. Blanco

    Can I get Lte in Columbia SC and 3G in the surrounding suburbs before investing in LTE Advance. Were already behind…. thanks!

  • ruthatstupid

    All you nerds do is just BITCH about everything good that T-Mobile has. Its not our fault you live in some hole in the wall. Move to a bigger city or go pay extra for Verizon to run their sewer lines directly into your mouths. I love T-Mobile its the best price for me and I have super fast LTE where I need it and it is unlimited. I have NEVER dropped a call, waited for a video to buffer, or had any issues with my service. You may think T-Mobile sucks but there is a reason why you and the other 30-Million+ people are still paying them every month.

    • Shahzad Malik

      Wow, never seen someone so passionate about a cell phone company… One question, do you think Chicago is a big city?

      • samsavoy

        T-Mobile fanboys are worse than Apple.

        • TechHog

          You haven’t seen enough Apple fanboys. Apple fanboys are brainwashed zombies; this guy’s just a typical idiot.

        • Xanderalmighty

          Are you really complaining about Tmobile fanboys on a website dedicated to Tmobile?

        • samsavoy

          They’re a company, not a fan club. Not everyone criticizing something is a troll that lives in a hole in a wall that wants Verizon run a sewer line to their house. Listen to yourselves. I visit this site to see if I can start recommending T-mo to more people. I want them to succeed.

        • Paddy_Tanninger_Caddy_Manager

          Well, we have both apple and t-mobile fanboys on this blog, ever since iPhone5 was introduced on the network.

    • juicyandthick

      Well said! Go tmobile and you little boys stop being negative nancys!

    • LC

      Yawwwnnnnnn…….

    • Paddy_Tanninger_Caddy_Manager

      haha! sewer line! classic

    • Bao Bui

      agreed. I live in Philadelphia and T-Mobile craps on every other carrier in this city! My friends barely get 3mbps on Verizon’s LTE. And peak hours for AT&T? hahaha it’s really laughable how bad AT&T and Sprint is in Philly.

      • Shahzad Malik

        You can laugh all you want right now.. You do realize most of the population on tmobile does not have an lte capable device? Once they do and more traffic is on the towers I doubt your speeds will be the same as they are today..

        • Bao Bui

          true, but I highly doubt it’ll fall behind AT&T/Verizon/Sprint speeds.

  • samsavoy

    You know, the more I read the Light Reading article the more I think he’s referring to the 37,000 sites as the existing ones they’re currently working on, and that they want to get that done first. He doesn’t really give a number for the ones going LTE-A.

  • Alex Zapata

    Maybe this can provide some insight to what these features might include.

    http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/135045-what-is-lte-advanced

  • Paddy_Tanninger_Caddy_Manager

    IMO, I can care less if my LTE is faster. I already get 30 down and 20 up in an LTE area. I just want broader LTE coverage and better building penetration that is larger and more comprehensive than the lilypad sized area currently in washington dc metro area.

    • Brandon

      Big whoop, wanna fight about it? lol

      • Paddy_Tanninger_Caddy_Manager

        hey! that’s my line! Finally, somebody gets the joke!

        • Brandon

          I love Family Guy and Paddy is one of my favorite secondary/tertiary characters!

        • Paddy_Tanninger_Caddy_Manager

          tertiary is giving him too much credit, he probably only made 3 appearances in 10 years!

        • Brandon

          Very true! OK quaternary character lol

    • Bao Bui

      *couldn’t care less*

      but yea, seriously, LTE is blazing fast in Philly… now the suburbs, on the other hand…. meh… at least I get 13 mbps down on HSPA+ =D

  • Alex Zapata

    Maybe LTE relays to increase coverage in rural areas more quickly?

    • superg05

      Relays
      that receive and retransmit the signals between base stations and
      mobiles can be used to increase throughput extend coverage of
      cellular networks. Infrastucture relays do not need wired connection
      to network thereby offering savings in operators’ backhaul costs.
      Mobile relays can be used to build local area networks between mobile
      users under the umbrella of the wide area cellular networks.

  • http://blog.samat.org/ Samat Jain

    Has T-Mobile seriously been upgrading the same cell sites 3—4 times in the past year, or are these just software upgrades?

    Do other carriers physically alter their sites with barely 6 months between upgrades? While we all want fast speeds it seems like incredibly wasteful, expensive, and dangerous for crews to do redundant work like this.

  • Brandon

    I hope when they add LTE to my area they up the transmission power or add in a few repeaters around my city. When I get to the edge of my city (about five miles away from the only tower) it drops down to EDGE until I drive about a half mile to a mile closer to it and then it picks up HSPA. An odd thing was that out that far I sometimes only get like 0.1-2Mbps until I’m about 2 or 3 miles away from it than it jumps up to around 10 Mbps.

    I’m at work (50 miles from my house) and I have a pretty strong LTE connection from a tower that about 20 miles away so this gives me hope.

    • Brandon

      They must have read this because on my way home yesterday I had the status page open to see what network I was connected to and what my signal strength was. I was shocked to find out that the same place I was talking about that was covered by edge was now HSPA! Another odd thing was that 1,000 feet from my house my signal strength was -55dbm (perfect) but when I parked in my drive was it was about -85, when I went inside it was back around to -93 :-/ Hopefully LTE will fix this.

  • Brandon

    I just came to T-Mobile a month ago and you guy DO realize that they’re the only ones that include wifi calling/texting because they KNOW their coverage is shitty and they’re trying to make up for it instead of saying “FU deal with it and give me your money” like the other carriers do. Yea it doesn’t work when you’re not near an AP but it’s better than nothing.

    • Bao Bui

      TBH, it doesn’t matter if you have T-Mobile, Sprint, Verizon, AT&T…. there will be areas with very bad connection, regardless of carrier. Whatever you may think about WiFi calling, it’s an added bonus to customers and there is nothing negative about it. Does it really matter WHY T-Mobile includes WiFi calling? Crappy connection or not, at least it’s there and customers benefit from it. That’s that.

      • Brandon

        Of course there will always be “dead zones” no matter what carrier you’re on. I’m not dumping on wifi calling, I think it’s awesome and I’m commending T-mobile on including such a great feature when all other carriers leave their customers with bad service out in the cold (unless you get a booster, but that can only be used at home). It’s common knowledge that T-mobile doesn’t have the greatest coverage, most of the western USA isn’t covered at all by T-Mobile. I feel in a year or two they’ll definitely be a force to be reckoned with. You simply can’t beat their prices and the no contract thing.

        • brianb990

          Much of California has greater coverage with Tmobile than with ATT. Tmobile tries to cover the USA population. They don’t necessarily look at empty space/states to cover.

        • Brandon

          I’m in NJ so I’m just going by their coverage map.

    • qpinto

      and i use wifi calling when im in dead spots where no other carrier gets signal in certain buildings, basements, and hey it works when im internationally travelling too at no charge as long as i have a wifi signal.

  • LOV3BAS3DCUBANO

    its good to see T-Mobile thinking ahead and providing quality service to their customers