T-Mobile’s ‘Samsung Holiday Sale’ Extended, Refocused On Value Plans

T-Mobile’s ‘Samsung Holiday Sale’ is being extended from this past weekend, with a twist that lends toward those of you already on or looking to move to Value Plans. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, Value Plans are T-Mobile’s future and I have complete belief that we’ll see more and more sales solely focused on Value Plans in the future.

That being said, T-Mobile is focused on providing Unlimited Value and Unlimited Nationwide 4G data plan customers with a special offer on Samsung’s 4G device including the Galaxy S III and Galaxy Note II. The offer is good for both new customers and existing customers with qualifying upgrades. Standard migration fees will apply for existing Classic customers who want to switch to a Value Plan and have less than 18 months of upgrade tenure. A two-year agreement is required as well the Unlimited Value and Unlimited nationwide data plan.

Offering customers a worry-free experience, T-Mobile’s Unlimited Nationwide 4G Data plans feature no data caps, no speed limits and no overages, with dependable nationwide 4G coverage at an affordable rate. For more details about T-Mobile’s Unlimited Nationwide 4G Data plan, visit http://www.T-Mobile.com/unlimited-data-plan.

You can learn more about the sale at T-Mobile’s deal site and begin planning which phone you’ll scoop up.

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  • whiteiphoneproblems

    The problem is the Unlimited data plan requirement. If you don’t need that much data, it’s not a “value.”

    • CRT24

      its required to get the rebate but you can drop it to 2gb after that if you dont need unlimited……so spend an extra $10 for the month you have to have unlimited data to save and extrat $50-$100 or dont take advantage of the sale…….pretty simple!

      • whiteiphoneproblems

        I’m currently on the 200MB plan (don’t even need 2GB). Can I switch back down to that, or will they ding me? (Seems odd to “game the system”…)

        • CRT24

          Value plans themselves dont have a data plan requirement because you are paying full cost for the phone. The requirements for data in cases like this are for rebate requirements, thus when you get your rebates you can alter your plan however you want short of canceling without a term fee. Not sure why you would not want data access on the go with a smartphone but you have that option with value

    • URUandIamME

      After you get the MIR you can switch down. Only 10.00 different.

  • wanderson

    galaxy note 2 rocks…

    • zacamandapio

      If the Note 2 rocks?
      It means the S3 is paper?

      :)

      • thepanttherlady

        Scissors. Definitely, scissors.

        • Josue

          I thought it was rock paper sscissors shoes?

        • Nibbley15

          Rock, paper, scissors, Spock

        • Ivan Sanchez

          you forgot the lizard. rock, paper, scissors, lizard, spock

        • Josue

          its simple…Scissors cuts Paper, Paper covers Rock, Rock crushes Lizard, Lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes Scissors, Scissors decapitates Lizard, Lizard eats Paper, Paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes Rock, and…as it always has, Rock crushes Scissors.

        • thepanttherlady

          OMG!!! I don’t drink enough for this! LOL

        • Josue

          i should get kudos 4 that lol

        • thepanttherlady

          Kudos but I DID just have a glass of pumpkin liqueur…we should be set now. Carry on! =D

        • CactusCat

          You should watch more American Pickers. Its rock, paper, scissors, and dynamite. Dynamite blows up all the others… game over.

        • zacamandapio

          Oh yeah. Duh.

  • jj

    its the gs3 total 150 so can i pay up front instead of the 20 per month

    • Guest

      The GS3 outright price is around 600.00 so you can pay upfront for all but wont get the MIR back. To get the MIR you must spread out the device over the bill. After you get the MIR back you can go into store and pay rest off.

    • thepanttherlady

      The $150 (plus applicable taxes) are the out of pocket price to walk out the door with this phone. See comment below for further explanation regarding the $20/20 EIP. :)

      • burms888

        So how much will the gs3 end up costing? $549?

        • thepanttherlady

          According to the website the S3 is $579.99 – $50 MIR = $529.99 (plus applicable taxes).

        • burms888

          Doesn’t seem like a very good deal compared to what was offered last weekend. Sorry I missed that.

        • burms888

          So I qualify for a discounted phone through T-Mobile. How would that work with this sale?

        • thepanttherlady

          This sale is only for Value plan customers. If you’re on a Classic plan, you won’t qualify. If you’re on a Value plan, then the prices are in the screen shot above (Full retail value of the phone – MIR)

        • burms888

          Sorry, my confusion is to what the sale is for. The offer is for new and existing customers signing up for a Value plan, but I don’t really get what the price of the phone is. After the $150 down, I get a $50 rebate, then have to pay $20/month for the phone for 20 months? So the phone will end up costing me $530? Is that correct? So it’s $50 off the phone’s full price?

        • thepanttherlady

          Yes, $50 off the full price of the phone. I believe I answered this same question for you 38 minutes ago. :)

          According to the website the S3 is $579.99 – $50 MIR = $529.99 (plus applicable taxes).

        • burms888

          Ha, sorry, I think I was just more in shock that the sale is for only $50 off the phone. Hopefully this isn’t the only Black Friday deal we will see.

        • thepanttherlady

          I was actually wondering the same thing since I noticed the sale for these are through 12/20. Not sure if they’ll run an additional sale on top of this one. :(

        • PiCASSiMO

          not much of savings if I buy a prepaid sgs3 from tmobile’s webpage. $550 vs 530

          http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-phones

  • Guest

    As a T-mobile Employee I can tell you yes, the Classic plans are going away. This past sales was the last sale involing classic plans.

    • Whitney

      So for now on we have to buy our buy phones at the retail price? No thanks

      • fonegeek

        So you are willing to pay more upfront, and more over the 2 year contract just for the satisfaction of thinking you got a “discount” on the phone?

        • Whitney

          The only phone I want is the iphone 5 and I am wiling to get a 2 year contract. I am not spend $600 on unlocked version. I will be happy paying for it little bit a time. However if T-mobile does not get it by the time my contract is up in June 2013 then screw them. I’ll go Sprint or AT&T. I been on family plan with that horrible HTC and now I want an iphone.

        • Chris

          Lol I can say the same with the iPhone being a crap phone. It’s all about perspective. And if you want to move then move. I really don’t get why people want to rant over the net first before they do something.

        • eanfoso

          Just leave already, nobody wants to read your cry, go cancel, boycott t-mobile for not offering an iphone nobody cares man, be our guest and leave for at&t and cry to them when you don’t have service in a certain area or your bill goes up by at least 1/2 of what it could’ve been on a value plan, I tell you because I’ve been with both at&t and sprint and their customer service sucks none the less even though they charge more their service sucks compared to t-mobile

        • Whitney

          400,000 customers do care otherwise they would not have left T-mobile

        • bleeew

          It could have been their coverage also. Or customer service.

        • eanfoso

          As I’ve said, t-mobiles coverage is far better than sprint and at&t, and last time I was with at&t and sprint someone from another country would answer and be rude af, but with t-mobile it’s all about courtesy and respect, plus hook ups if you’re nice to the Rep I say it from experience, so no way it’s customer service, plus who on earth would compare sprints pathetic 3g to t-mobiles hspa+ 42mbps lol

        • Spanky

          What use is this so-called HSPA+ 42 when the downstream speed tops out at 0.5 Mbps in a major metropolitan area?

        • eanfoso

          And if 400, 000 customers decided to lick Steve Jobs’ tombstone just for the heck of it? Don’t be part of the followers, no offense but I can tell you’ve never held a leadership position, you’re just doing something because everyone else is

        • Whitney

          And yet T-mobile is still in fourth place

        • eanfoso

          Not world wide moron, look at all the countrieswhere is a t-mobile, but besides the fact that t-mobile actually has more customers than Verizon and at&t, t-mobile still has better service and better coverage than sprint and at&t that’s a fact, yet people leave because they fail to realize that they can use whatever phone they want with t-mobile on a value plan, and just so you know, you don’t have to pay your phone upfront, you pay it in installments of 15 to 20 $ a month which would still be cheaper than on a classic plan

        • Spanky

          “t-mobile still has better service and better coverage than sprint and at&t that’s a fact”

          That’s a fact? I beg to differ. I live in NYC (Brooklyn, to be exact), and T-Mobile’s data coverage was absolutely horrible in my neighborhood. I moved to AT&T about 4 months ago and couldn’t be happier. I’d rather be paying T-Mobile’s prices, but their coverage doesn’t hold a candle to AT&T’s. Sprint, on the other hand, is a whole other story.
          By the way, I am not trolling. I read this site on a regular basis and would consider returning to T-Mobile in the future, if their coverage improves.

        • bob90210

          Or you can use buy the iPhone with a credit card and get the value plan. Use the money you save on the value plan to pay off the credit card. You will probably pay the same amount total but you save on each month after the 2 year period if you don’t upgrade. And if you do upgrade, the unlocked phone is has a slightly higher resale value.

        • Whitney

          I am not going to buy an iphone on a credit card.

        • bob90210

          So you are willing to buy a buy a phone at a “discounted” price and spread the remaining amount over the life of the contract but are not willing to buy it on a credit card and spreading the payments over several months?

        • NuShrike

          Ever considered a savings account? Put the “going out” money in there for a while and baam, you just gave yourself $600 and a discount.

        • xmiro

          on a T-Mobile value plan and phone payments the way they do it, you almost always save $100 or more vs a Classic plan.

        • blakener21

          you are an idiot, you isheep you are spending $600 on you iphone over the 2 year contract of your att and sprint plan dumb A $$! since when does apple give an iphone for $99 thats the biggest LOL!!!! theyed slapp you in the face if you told them to give you an iphone for $99 ahahahah!

        • http://tmonews.com David

          Dude, enough with the iSheep comments.

        • madmark

          Go ahead and go to them. Your welcome to pay $600+ at AT&T or Sprint. Everyone knows that “discount” they claim your getting is paid off in your contract price. T-Mobile is the only company that stops charging you for your phone. You can go to the other three and pretend to get a discount if you want.

      • B

        value plan is better no matter how you look at it. pay less up front for devices even with your classic discounts. on full upgrades the sg3 is $348 MIR of $50 and on value its 130-180 downpayment if not a sale which is 200. Still less. can take off data as you please.

      • RotaryP7

        Classic or Value. It doesn’t matter. In Classic, you’re still paying retail for the phone. They just don’t tell you. The plans are higher, therefore adding the payments into the plan w/o you noticing. Value actually tells you what you are paying and it lets you even pay off the device incase you’d want an upgrade before the 20 months. Value plan gives you a discount on the bill rather than the phone. I’d rather have a discount every month than just one discount w/ Classic. In the end, you still save more by choosing Value over Classic. That why it’s called a “Value” plan.

  • Joe

    I don’t get why you guys are championing the value plan. It’s not very economical when you consider how much they want to charge you for the Nexus 4. Can someone explain how a value plan would be better for a family of five than the classic?(Hypothetically getting four GS3′s and a GNII)

    • TmoPimp

      Just buy the Nexus 4 from Google and put it on a Value Plan… but the question is if you buy it from google why don’t you just pay $50 a month without a contract??? Tmobile makes dumb moves sometimes….

      • unknown

        Maybe bacause you only get 100 mb of 4g internet with the $50 a month?

    • CRT24

      Do the math dude…..value comes out better in total 2 year cost in all single line cases and in most family plan cases as well. The math has been done a thousand times on this site for all to see so if yoy dont get it by now then you will never get it…..so go get your “discount” on a phone and do classic, please!

    • 3560freak

      Classic vs Value Galaxy Nexus example:

      Classic x 5 phones (Unlimited Minutes, Messaging, 2GB Web)

      $99.99 lines 1 & 2, $30.00 x 3 lines (3-5), $20.00 x 5 (2GB web) = $289.99

      $289.99 x 24 months = $6,959.99 + $199.99 * 5 (Nexus phones) = $7,959.99 (totaled)

      ———-

      Value x 5 phones (Unlimited Minutes, Messaging, 2GB Web)

      $79.99 lines 1 & 2, $25.00 x 3 lines (3-5), $10.00 x 5 (2GB web) = $204.99

      $204.99 x 24 months = $4,919.99 + $499.99 * 5 (Nexus phones) = $7,419.99 (totaled)

      … so you save a total $500 in this case (option to pay $199.99 down and put $15.00 / month on the bill until paid off)

      ———–

      pretty much everyone saves on the value plan, except old grandfathered plans with loyalty features (special data pricing, bonus minutes, myfaves, etc)

      • PiCASSiMO

        Does every line need unlimited minutes? Can’t you save $150 per Nexus 4 phone and buy it from Google Play? Look at the math with less than needed minutes. My wife and I use less than 500 minutes a month, combined.

    • Get_at_Me

      The value plan is more expensive when more than 2 highend smartphones are involved. Phone payments on 2 smartphones cancel out lower cost plan but value is still slightly cheaper when taxes are factored in. 3 or more highend smartphones on value will cost more than classic…$20 phone payment + 5 aal cost + $10 2gb data = $35 on value vs $20 2gb data + $10 aal cost = $30 on classic. Again when taxes are considered, it almost evens out since taxes on the phones are not included in monthly service charge.

      • Nate Dog

        Yes, but after the 20 months the phone is being paid for, or if you bring your own phone or buy it elsewhere, the value plans are a clear winner. I’d rather pickup a good used 4S for example for 300 bucks and use a value plan, than go to ATT and pay 100 up front, then pay 80 bucks a month for service. WHen I can pay 300 and buy one off Ebay, CL, or from a friend, and pay 50 a month for 500 minutes, unlimited text, and 2GB of data, or 60 a month if I want unlimited data. The value plan pays for itself in this case after 6 months, every month after that is pure savings.

        • Get_at_Me

          Very true, but how many ppl will wait 22 months to get a new phone? Not even that… Who’s going to keep a phone for well beyond their two yr contract? Most ppl will always be tied up with phone payments. Although Googles nexus program does offer an affordable alternative to carrier branded subsidized/installment devices.

  • steveb944

    Last year’s promo is still so much better far as I remember. Maybe they lost money on that one? Who knows :/

  • CR

    galaxy note 2 rebate is only $100 now. It was $200 last weekend.

    • thepanttherlady

      I believe the out of pocket amount was higher too. End result was the same…after MIR the Note 2 was $199.99 plus $20/20.

      • CR

        I bought on my Value plan, out of pocket was $299 with $200 due back in rebate plus $20 per month. Looks like they are selling lots of note 2s.

        • thepanttherlady

          You are correct. I quoted the pricing for the Classic plan. :)

        • Stephen

          yep, did the same deal. Awesome phone and great replacement to my MyTouch 4G

  • nd5

    David, why would they have a sale that required extending classic plans for the next two years only to end them next year? Now I have three of my four lines locked in until 2014. If they want to move me to a value plan with no penalties, then I might be game, otherwise I suspect that classic plans will survive for a while…

    • Guest

      T-mobile now offers Bridge to vaule, which means you can switch to vaule once your current classic plan expire. See your local store for more details about bride to vaule.

      • Zach Mauch

        further explaining this. Bridge to value allows you to switch each phone as they become eligible rather than having to wait till every phone on the account is far enough into their contract.

  • chuey101

    an FYI i called to switch from classic to value and they offered me $79 for 1000 minutes and unlimited text and data for 2 lines. That is crazy. I couldn’t believe it. Anyone else get this offered to them? Normally this is $99, so I went from $120 to $79 in one call. $50 a month savings and more minutes. craziness

    • zacamandapio

      That’s correct. That has been the price since they introduced the Value Plans. 79.99 for two lines for 1000 minutes and 99.99 for unlimited. I’ve the 2nd.

    • CRT24

      That is the price with the 2gb data so you might want to verify that you have the truly unlimited…..just fyi

      • chuey101

        whew thx for the heads up but i have confirmed that they converted me to a $69.99 plan with 1000 minutes, unlimited text and unlimited data up to 5gb for 2 lines. The data piece looks like a custom option as it is listed as the “simple plan” with 200mb but apparently they have a special memo which will actually allow it to go up to 5gb before throttling. Weird i know, but i will take it. They explained this was a grandfathered option b/c i was previously on a 5 gb family plan (not classic one of the older ones). I’m not sure but I think this is an unprecedented pricing plan. Can anyone else confirm/disconfirm?

        • CRT24

          Never heard of that before and actually the 5gb plan would be more than the truly unlimited plan, and if you dont need to tether then there would be no need to be on the 5gb plan. Not saying it isnt possible but sounds fishy to me so I would recommend going into a store and have them go over your account. I have mainly seen this with the “outsourced” care centers but I have cleared up numerous issues with customers in the store who claim they were told something different than was actually the case.

  • superdry

    Interesting. I also noticed at a local official T-Mobile store there were monthly4G promos running at the same time if you bought at least a $60/month prepaid plan for the most part (I think the GSIII had a discount on the off-contract price if you did $70/month plan). Anyone else see this?

    I find it fascinating to see phones getting discounted on prepaid plans. I didn’t ask any of the sales reps if there are any stipulations though.

  • Andrew

    If I currently am part of a family plan, a long time t-mobile costumer, and am eligible for an upgrade can I take advantage of this sale? Do I have to upgrade all the way to unlimited data or can I get the 2gb plan?

    • Deadeye37

      I tried to get this on Friday and they said that I had to get rid of my 200 MB data plan and get the unlimited data plan. I ended up calling retention and complained and they ended up getting me the GSIII for $90. While its not free, I prefer that price much more than having to upgrade to unlimited plans and having my monthly bill go up by $30/mo.

      • http://twitter.com/bmelendy bmelendy

        And you got to keep your 200MB data plan?? $90 seems super cheap for the S3.

        • Deadeye37

          Ya, I got to keep the 200 MB plan. I I have a line that is out of contract and my line was about out of contract.

        • The Guru

          why would you buy the S3 and only be using under 200mb seems like a waste to have such a powerful device only to not use it . its a media power house put your foot to the floor and drive …you dont put regular gas into a sports car …

        • Deadeye37

          I’m around WiFi 95% of the time, so I do all that media stuff while I’m sitting on my duff around WiFi. When I’m out and about, I usually just use my phone for Waze (GPS) and looking up local coupons (Happenings app) along with light browsing.

  • burms888

    Wait, so how much is the S3 with this deal? I know it was free the 16th and 17th with new 2-year, but now it looks like it’s going to cost $549.99? Is that really what the deal is? Can someone clarify?

    • Zach Mauch

      The GSIII was free on the classic plan contract. Classic plans are the traditional “we’ll subsidize the price of your phone now and get it back over the life of your 2-year contract.”

      The new pricing is for value plan customers. Value plans don’t subsidize the price of the phone (you pay full price with part of it cost being paid in zero interest monthly payments), but they offset it with much cheaper monthly rates.

      Overall, the value plan is a better deal, but you are also being locked into a contract with an ETF despite T-Mobile not subsidizing a phone (and therefore having no cost to recoup) . Once they switch to a Value Plan only model, I wouldn’t be surprised to see ETFs reduced or removed for customers with paid off phones.

      • SkippyFlipjack

        The value plan is a good deal if you buy a phone elsewhere and use that one. Paying full price to TMO isn’t a good deal.

      • Spanky

        The 2 year contract/ETFs are my biggest issues with the value plan. Let’s say I buy an unlocked phone from a 3rd party retailer and bring it to T-Mobile to sign up for a value plan. I end up canceling the plan 8 months later, for which T-Mobile charges me a $200 ETF. You with me so far?
        The purpose of ETFs is to help recoup the expense that T-Mobile incurred by subsidizing a phone. In this case, T-Mobile has subsidized absolutely NOTHING, as I purchased the phone elsewhere. What exactly is it that they are charging $200 for? Seems like an extremely shady practice to me.

        • CRT24

          Value plans are contract, get over it! If you dont want a contract T-Mobile has monthly 4G so if you sign up for value, you do so with full knowledge of the etf so that is on you if that is what you decide to do

  • auser72

    Off topic, but I finally got myself a Galaxy Note 2. Couldn’t be happier right now!!!!!!!!!

    • eanfoso

      I could, my note 2 pictures suck compared to a nokia 808 pureview, it’ll be nice if Samsung buys nokia and they implement the lossless zoom in their camera

  • loueradun

    So what is the twist that lends towards value plans??? Or is the twist that the sale is continuing?

  • http://www.youtube.com/#/mrjlwilliams J. Williams

    wow.

  • thepanttherlady

    Something to note…this is an IN-STORE sale.

  • thepanttherlady

    David, I have a question.

    The “examples” given in fine print at the bottom of the sale page for T-Mobile don’t match the actual website pricing.

    Their website says the Note 2 is $699.99 but the example given in fine print shows even after the MIR, the customer is still paying $699.99. My math shows it should be $599.99 after the MIR.

    The S3 shows as $579.99 on the website but the fine print example shows after MIR it is $549.99. My math shows it should be $529.99.

    Am I missing something, or do we know which is the correct pricing?

  • The Guru

    I keep reading about not being able to upgrade due to wanting to keep 200mb data plan . What im trying figure out is why would you need or want a phone that cost 600$ but dont intend on using it. It may only be me but if i only use under 200mb a month im not even thinking about a S3 or a note 2 ..im looking for the galaxy exhibit or the blaze a more cost effective device that suits my 200mb a month needs ..you dont put regular gas in a preminum car

    • thepanttherlady

      A lot of people mainly use WiFi. I did (home and work) until Unlimited Data came out. Now I rarely use WiFi. :)

    • Whitney

      Well if they wants a 200mb plan then their right

    • Ryan

      Being married, having a baby, and no reception in building at work (doesnt matter who carrier is) lends oneself to having a boring life where I rarely use data out and about so 200mb is plenty for me right now. I use Wifi when I’m at home or at either side of our parents. I hardly ever reach the 200mb data mark. I don’t like being a slave to my monthly payments either.

    • RotaryP7

      Unfortunately, every new smartphone upgraded now has to have at least* the 2GB unlimited data plan or higher. They changed this about a month ago. This even includes phones like the TMO Prism.

  • Bill Smith

    How do you continue a sale when there is no inventory?
    I looked at the T-Mobile site and seems like there are more out of stock then are in stock.

    • Chris

      There are stock in stores.

    • Chris

      Also you can see that at the promo above. It says “at our in-store” sale.

    • Vexx

      This Sale appears to be a Black Friday focus…and the sale is only good at a T mobile store NOT ONLINE…AND THE STORES WILL BE WELL STOCKED!!

  • http://about.me/daylondeon Deacon

    good sale for Value plan owners for that SG3

  • UncleFan

    I just priced out the plans for a GS3: Value plan + EIP costs $5 *more* than the equivalent Classic plan for 500 min + Unlimited Data ($65/month vs. $60/month). What a joke! Do they really think people aren’t going to do the math?

    • bleeew

      Some people don’t honestly.

    • El Andy

      500 min classic plan with unlimited internet is 79.99
      500 min value plan with unlimited internet is 59.99+20 eip = 79.99
      which does not come out to more either way you look at it

      • UncleFan

        What? 500 min Classic talk + internet is (~$40 + $20 = ~$60) while 500 min Value talk + the equivalent internet + EIP is (~$35 + $10 + $20 = $65)

        EDIT: You must be including texting… I suggest using Google Voice for that!

        • CRT24

          So when you multiply that out over 24 months you will pay $1440 for the classic without the phone and $1480 over 24 months on value including 20 months of phone payments and $1610 including the down on the gs3. So if you pay more than $170 for a gs3 on classic then it will be more than value, plus your bill will stay at the $60 but the vlaue will go to $45. I have no idea why you people continue to argue with math.

        • UncleFan

          I’m not arguing with math, I’m arguing with an idiot. If you want to look at the total cost of ownership over the life of the contract, BOTH the Classic and the Value plans are terrible deals compared to paying full retail for the phone and going on the $30 Monthly4G plan. But that, of course, would require giving up the phone subsidy. What I’m trying to do is minimize both the initial outlay for the phone AND the monthly cost of the service plan… the Classic plan offers a better balance for these two criteria than the Value plan. Sheesh!

        • CRT24

          Funny you just now bring up the $30 prepaid plan since you yourself have been comparing classic vs value with no mention of this pre paid plan. Of course the 30.00 plan is less over the course of 24 months moron, because it is a cheaper plan and only has 1500 total minutes and texts combined and is really not an apples to apples comparison anyway. No one on here has ever said that there are not cheaper plans than value because of course there are but when you compare value with full cost phones to classic with phone subsidies value wins every time and has been proven with MATH! And frankly it wins against comparable plans in other carriers with phone subsidies as well. So arguing against FACTS that are right in your face make you what you profess to argue with.

        • CRT24

          And by the way, outlay for the phone on value is ALWAYS less than it is on classic. GS3 on classic is $330 plus tax up front and is $130 plus tax up front on value when bought at t-mobile. If walmart or some other 3rd party sells it on classic for less then your initial outlay may be slightly less.

        • Nate Dog

          Your math is wrong there. You are pricing the Unlimited 4G on the Classic plan at 20 a month, when in fact it is 30 a month. So add 10 more bucks a month to your calculations. Or if you even want to use the 20 a month 2GB plan, the same plan is still 10 dollars less a month on a value plan, so you are still mispricing the plans by 10 bucks a month either way you look at it.

          Again, this is why Value plans, while being a better value, fail because of math.

        • Nate Dog

          NM You did lower it right in this post you made. However, if you multiply the costs, out, you see that over the course of 2 years, the contract term of a classic plan, you see this: Classic plan = 1440, value plan = 1300 for 20 months, then 180 for 4 more months after the 20 dollars for the phone ends, and you have 1480, or 40 dollars difference at the end of 2 years. However, if you don’t buy a new phone, and just continue to use your phone, then the value plan quickly wins after this point because the cost per month becomes 45 a month vs 60 a month.

          Also this assumes you are buying a phone that is 20 a month on the value plan. If you choose a phone that is 15 a month, the value plan is the clear winner.

        • UncleFan

          “If you choose a phone that is 15 a month, the value plan is the clear winner.”
          Finally, something I can agree with! Yes, if you don’t need the maximum EIP for a high-end phone, the Value comes out ahead in every respect.

        • UncleFan

          The cheapest Classic data plan is the “Unlimited – Plus” which is $20. It’s also soft-capped at 2 GB for full speed data, but for $10 less a month than “Unlimited 4G”, I don’t care. The equivalent Value data plan = $10/month. Go back and look at the T-Mobile website.

    • Aaron Tant

      Value 500 with text and unlimited web: $60
      Classic 500 with text and unlimited web: $80
      Value 500 with unlimited web: $55
      Classic 500 with unlimited web: $70
      SIII – $580 retail value; $330 on classic
      Out of pocket cost on Value: $180
      Out of pocket cost on Classic: $330 – (loss of $150)
      total cost over 2 year with Value: $1900 – $2020
      total cost over 2 year with Classic: $2010 – $2250
      In your short-sighted view, the bill is $5 more on Value 500 with unlimited wed and EIP for 20 months. But, in the grand scheme, you save between $110 and $130. So, yes, T-Mobile is hoping you do the math… and save you cash on Value. Go figure.

      • UncleFan

        There’s nothing “short-sighted” about trying to keep your monthly bill down, even when you’re subsidizing your phone. Also, you’re pricing the phone at the official T-Mobile price for Classic plans, but as I’m sure you know, Wal-Mart and resellers offer the GS3 for FAR cheaper than $330 on a Classic plan.

        • bob90210

          That’s the very definition of short-sighted; trying to keep short term costs low even if the total cost over the long term will be higher.

    • Nate Dog

      This is ultimately why Value plans are a hard sell. iSheeple are unable or unwilling to do math. I just looked at the Tmo website, and the 500m + Unlimited text + Unlimited data value plan is 59.99 a month. The classic with 500m + text + unlimited data is 79.99… If you include the costs of the phone, assuming the out of pocket is the same, whether you pay 149.00 or 0 through a promotion or a rebate in the case of the value plan, you will pay 20 more a month for the value plan, so the net cost is the same, 79 vs 79. The win comes after 20 months, your plan cost on the value plan drops to 59.99 a month instead of 79.99. Or if you bring your own phone, it starts out at 59.99 from the beginning.

  • bleeew

    They need to MARKET this and show its cheaper to get a Note on T-Mobile than the other 3.

  • Singleweird

    wait i thought value plans didnt have phone subsidies? you’re telling me i can get a GS3 for 149?!?!?!

    • bleeew

      after rebate its $99.00

    • thepanttherlady

      They don’t. If you qualify credit-wise you put a down payment on the phone then pay the balance at $20 a month for 20 months.

      The $149 is the down payment only.

      • Singleweird

        o ok thanks

      • Get_at_Me

        Theres not really a credit requirement for phone payments. If you agree to sign up new or migrate to value, the phone payment option is there for you to use. However, your total credit limit is determined by your tmo credit class. Customers with a higher “credit class” will have higher credit limits. In a single line scenario, all things are equal regardless of credit class.

  • SkippyFlipjack

    As others have said below, the value plan is a joke, a way of locking in people who think a monthly plan won’t lock them in. A guy in the store tried selling me on it and I just stared at him like “I must be missing something.. So I’ll be paying the full price of the phone over two years? Why the hell would I do that?” My contract is up in a couple of months and I’m thinking of leaving TMO just for foisting this low-rent gimmick on people.

    • bob90210

      With the classic plan, you always pay the full price over the the course of two years.

    • CRT24

      Both value and classic plans require a 2 year contract genius, so you are signing a contract either way. …..the only way the classic plan is less over the life of the contract is if you get a free phone and even then it depends on the phone. But just comparing the 2 over 24 months the classic plan will be $480 more than value when you are comparing talk text and web single plans. So I guess people who bring their own device would do classic right, since value is such a joke?

    • Carolina Media Sales

      Since all the Classic plan monthly rate plan prices are $20 more than the Value plan, the Value is the way to go. The only difference between the Value plan and the plan on other carriers is that the price of the phone is actually separated from the monthly bill rather than hidden in higher rate plan costs. Why do you think AT&T/Verizon will sell people $600 phones for $200? Because over the course of a 2year contract and paying $100 per month for service you have paid them back over 120% for the full price of the device.

    • xmiro

      It’s only a joke if you can’t do math.
      The cost of a phone is built into the Classic plan whether you take a phone or not.
      But good luck leaving to wherever, you’ll pay about $500 over the life of your contract

  • MEWJ

    That Note 2 sample pricing couldn’t be correct….but here’s a clear picture for those who just don’t understand how the value plan works….First get the for value plans get the correct pricing first…Please note T mobile will elect to increase or decrease any retail price to create the end price…So even thought the Gs3 is $579.99 in store today, for this sale it appears it will $549.99. What you do is you add the down payment before rebate and add it to the financed portion….That part is the 20$ for 20 month pay off. So that will always equal..$400. That amount plus the 149.99 makes the new retail price $ 549.99.

    Now you need to figure out what is the tax amount on 549.99 because that’s the only tax amount you will pay upfront at the store. Here is Dallas the tax rate is 8.25%.

    That tax rate added to the retail amount of $549.99 equals, $45.37.
    Now add the down payment amount to that.$149.99 plus 45.37=$ 195.36
    Total cost, $595.36, now subtract the rebate of$50, and your final cost will be, $545.36.
    Not really a big savings…but the emphasis is the out of pocket being lower….You just left the store with $549.99 phone, for less than $200 upfront…keep in mind that’s the emphasis here. Then in theory once that rebate arrives…your initial 195.36 is reduced to 145.36. Having to pay full retail isn’t that bad and it really forces you to get what you really want over just getting what’s cheap or easy.

    • MEWJ

      Whoever thumbed my comments down…is just not willing to face…reality….and that reality is….your day’s of spending 1 to $200 for a $500 to $600 phone have expired!! Don’t hate me because you’re in denial…or just couldn’t comprehend what I did above….AND I ASK ANY ACTUAL T MOBILE REP’S TO THUMB THIS UP….IF YOU KNOW MY MATH IS CORRECT…SO PEOPLE WILL FACE THE MUSIC….PLEASE!!!!

      • Tmo

        I work at T-Mobile, this guy is spot on. Up front cost is lowered as well as the actual bill. Over 2 years, you can expect to save a minimum of $180. Considering about $100 up front savings and $80 savings after the installments are complete meaning the total bill is $20/mo less for the last 4 months of a 24 month contract. This compared to the more expensive Classic plan.

  • captaineoh

    I went in today, and. Tmobile rep said thesale has not been extended.

    • Vexx

      Read…This Sale Starts on Friday….11/23

  • bataviabro

    Value vs Classic.
    Value-discount on plans, retail on phone, stuck on phones for 20 months..no discounts from retention dept because you are stuck with 20 months payment and contract..
    Classic discount on phones.. can get 10-15% discount on plans or from retention dept.. can get new phones for reasonable price after 12 months through retention. Plans cost more
    I think value plans make people regrets a 20 month payments on top 2 year contract.. total cost is that value plan is not much lower..
    Example unlimited min/text +2gb
    with2 SG3

    Value $ 199 down x2 = 400
    79.99 +20data= 99.99 + 40(20 paymentsx2)
    139.98 / month + tax

    Classic $ 199×2 = 400
    99 + 40 data = 139 + tax
    (15 % discounts not included)
    So value cost less after 21st month..

    So calculate wisely…cost depends on what u need..

    • Vexx

      CLASSIC IS LEAVING….SOONER THAN YOU THINK…

    • xmiro

      From my favorite spreadsheet with your scenario (18.157% tax in Fort Lauderdale, $0.50 e911 fee per line, $1.61 fcc fee per line, 6% sales tax)

      Value – $118.72 / $2849.33 over 24 months / + phones & EIP = $4073.31 over 24 months
      Classic – $162.35 / $3896.48 over 24 months / + phones = $4320.46 over 24 months

      EIP $800, Phones $423.98

      $247.07 in savings with Value over 24 months.

      If you got the above promo for a Galaxy SIII on a Value plan, and got Galaxy SIII for free on Classic plan it would be $29.17 cheaper to be on Value over 24 months.

  • B

    Biggest reason for value is for tmobile to get the iPhone in 2013-14. That way customers pay the full cost of the iPhone n tmobile can cover the cost being charged by apple. customer’s will be happy n so will tmobile. value plans are the way to go.

    • Carolina Media Sales

      I’m not sure if Apple will agree to let T-Mobile sell the iPhone full price unsubsidized on the Value plan.

      • bob90210

        Apple sells the iPhone at full unsubsidized price and you can use it on T-Mobile so I doubt Apple will prevent T-Mobile from doing the same.

  • Dewey Cox

    The problem with value is that a great number of customers do not understand it.
    Look at some of the questions being asked on this site.
    I assume people here know more than the average customer yet confusion reigns.
    Lets face it…..people are used to getting a discounted handset when they activate or upgrade. Value , to some, is like the math problem on the chalkboard in ” Good Will Hunting”.
    If value is our path , we will never leave the #4 spot.
    Our holiday weekend sale is basically $100 off the MSRP of the device. Customers are still paying 3-500 dollars for a phone over 20 months.
    In closing. ….having 2 price plans is too confusing to the customer and value , ,although, better in the long run, does bot sound better short term.

  • Skog

    Why does the article say the sale is being “extended” It appears to be a different sale. First it only includes deals for the Value plan. Second the up front phone cost is $149.00 with a $50 rebate plus you pay $20 for I believe 20 months = $499, The sale on Nov. 16th and 17th you paid $199 with a $200 rebate (which made the down payment essentially free) and then paid your $20 a month for 20 months. That is a $99 increase over last weekends sale.

  • skog

    Why does the article say the sale is being “extended” It appears to be a different sale. First it only includes deals for the Value plan. Second the up front phone cost is $149.00 with a $50 rebate plus you pay $20 for I believe 20 months = $499, The sale on Nov. 16th and 17th you paid $199 with a $200 rebate (which made the down payment essentially free) and then paid your $20 a month for 20 months. That is a $99 increase over last weekends sale.

    • http://tmonews.com David

      I based the use of the word “extended” off the email that came to me. It’s the same sale, they’ve altered the terms was how it was described.

      • skog

        Thanks for the clarification sir.

      • bob90210

        Pray that they don’t alter it any further.

      • burms888

        Essentially, the s3 is still $100 more for this sale compared to the last sale though correct?

        • skog

          That is the way I am reading it. probably best to wait until it is free again.

  • http://twitter.com/purenupe1 Taharvey Davis

    NO MORE MAIL IN REBATES!!!!!!! This is not a sale, but rather a calculated gamble on customers not correctly applying for the rebates.

  • Robert Wheeler

    I took advantage of this deal to buy an SIII. My SI took a crap. Tmo replaced it with an Exhibit II (that actully wasn’t a great phone, but not bad) I couldnt help but to upgrade. My fat fingers and that Exhibit didnt get alone to well. So far, I have nothing but great things to say about this phone. Not only does the SIII looks pretty, but most importantly its actually very useful. No lag, no bull. Sure its not perfect. Its no Apple. But its easy to use, and offers lots of bells.