T-Mobile Continues To Prepare For “iPhone 5” Response

The unfortunate T-Mobile iPhone news continues to roll in and let us know that it remains unlikely T-Mobile will be unveiled as an official iPhone partner later this month when Apple announces it’s next-generation iPhone. Along with preparing retail employees for “selling against the iPhone,” we’ve just received the above image which shows that T-Mobile is preparing their “iPhone Response — Phase 2” for September 21st through October 1st.

Unfortunately, we have no idea what Phase 1 is or when or if it has already occurred, so our information on “Phase 2” is even more limited. More importantly, we’re having a hard time believing anyone could see the joint evidence of T-Mobile preparing reps to sell against the product and preparing a “response” plan and still believe they will be announced as the last of the four national carriers to partner with Apple. Combine these two pieces of evidence along with T-Mobile’s flyers showing the savings over AT&T by “bringing” your iPhone to T-Mobile and their rumored “all hands days” for September 21st and 24th and we know something is up, but we’re pretty positive we know what it isn’t.

It just seems like all the intel points away from a T-Mobile iPhone at this point, but if I may offer a “bold” suggestion for making many Android fans on T-Mobile happy? A price drop on the Galaxy S III in the near future, and a combined push of unlimited data. Arguably, a Samsung Galaxy S III price drop is long overdue for T-Mobile as they remain the only carrier to sell the device at a starting price other than $199.99.

Besides, the Galaxy S III seems like the most appropriate “response” to the iPhone these days as is, so a price drop could go a long way to making T-Mobile customers happy. That is, if you believe the picture below. If T-Mobile isn’t going to sell the iPhone, than it would be a good idea to put their best foot forward with the best price possible.

For fun, and yes this is a mockup that’s been making the rounds the past few days, definitely not an official document:

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  • sandwichmasta

    LOL that’s pretty funny. kudos to T-Mo for that one. More retailers should advertise like this just as a big “screw you” to Apple

  • Evan Carter44

    “Substantially the same” as their…. Shouldn’t it be “theirs”?

    • Bratty

      Yes. You are correct.

      • Ha, guys, it’s a mockup someone made poking fun at the court case. It’s absolutely NOT an official document, it’s just something someone mocked up. 

        • I figured as much.  that’s too bad tho, I think it would have been a super effective advertisement! lol  ahhh oh well

    • James

      Yep! And in the next sentence, it should say “…featureS”, not the singular “feature.” Two typos in one short official document?! Seems sketchy.

  • what I think will happen is Apple and T-Mobile are holding out debuting the iPhone on Magenta until early 2013 when T-Mobile’s LTE network goes live.  Think about it, remember when Verizon Launched the iPhone in the Spring when it first offered it?  could just be.

    • I agree with you, it only makes sense to launch it with lte, and who knows I might pick it up, im due for an upgrade in the spring

    • fsured

       Then why release it on ATT or Sprint when their LTE coverage isn’t widespread?  The phone will have LTE in it but also the abilities to connect to the 3g networks for areas that don’t have LTE coverage.  It would be stupid of them build the phone with only LTE reception. 

      • fsured when/if its released in the Spring for T-Mobile, it will have HSPA+ as well I’m sure, I wasn’t saying it wouldn’t.  it’ll just include both and even tho Att and Verizon’s LTE networks are still growing, they’re starting to really reach out. I think if they release the LTE iPhone on T-Mobile without their LTE network, it would be a horrible response.  so the logical thing to do is wait until its Live.

        • TmobileDJ

          Most consumers don’t know the difference between HSPA+ 4G and LTE 4G. It would help T-Mobile tremendously if they release the iphone sooner than later!

        •  I agree @6ba2da651330c27446865aa0685f3d1d:disqus, however it just doesn’t appear that Apple or T-Mobile agree with us on that.  = /

      • Dakotasimpson

        Well they have LTE – ATT is much more than Sprint but they’re hoping to have it by end of 2013.  Who knows, maybe theres a chance sprint wont get it.  You read their website and people who got LTE phones like sg3 are furious because they dont have LTE, no Wimax4G, so theyre stuck with an LTE phone on Sprints horrific 3g network. And doesnt ATT version work with their HSPA which supposedly is faster anyway.  Iphone users I know havent been desperate for LTE.  I used a friends iphone the other day at breakfast, and it worked fast enough; I was s urprised because from what I read on blogs like this about 4G , I thought it would be like a tortoise; it was fast enough to do anything I wanted.  I think its like many things – you dont realize theres something better out there till you test it out.  My new phone has a larger screen than my old one and I feel so much difference -Not only easier to see but I find I dont make tons of keyboard mistakes on it anymore.  I did assume that a larger phone would have 5 rows of icon, but this one still has 4 so I feel they didnt take advantage of the larger real estate.  Im on wifi a lot anyway during the day.  Having a page upload a few seconds faster is not going to change my life.

    • Kugel

      Would Tmobile’s LTE be consistent with the other networks.  Ive read many articles that say Tmo network is not compatible with other GSM- I guess they use a different spectrum o something and that Apple would have to create a special iphone just for Tmobile and t hats not worth it…I dont know if thats true but thats what Ive read

      • @a6f6dd34ae55f4f16b2cbd2f1e7eb82f:disqus T-Mobile’s LTE network will run on AWS, just the same as much of Att’s, no new hardware would be required especially since our HSPA is now going to run on PCS just the same as Att’s as well.  There will be absolutely no reason or barrier that would keep; the iPhone off of T-Mobile, except Apple’s unwillingness to provide it to them or T-Mobile not wanting to put forth the money required for subsidies.  Plain and simple. 

  • Amber b

    I pray they do lower the price for the Galaxy S III, i’ve been waiting for that so i can get one…. i am sooo close to giving in but im going to wait a little longer. *Crossing Fingers for Price drop*  =) 

    • Cindi

      have u checked third party sites – they have the Tmo SG3 for 199 ins tead o ftheir 279 and no rebates to worry about

      • googlephone

        costco has it for 179.99. 

    • custom1

      Wait a bit and look for a Target store to get a better price. No need to go through a corporate store.

  • Larrrs

    WE have a mandatory meeting next sunday,  a training or seminar in how to sell against the iphone.  NOt sure if everyone has this training going on, but I have to be there at 8 am sunday morning :(

    • Tmo_employee

      earn more training ?

    • Cindi

      Its really only for ATT people whose contract has expired. It wont work with Sprint or Verizon iphones and most people looking to save money are not going to have $650 or more to pay for an unlocked iphone just to save $20 a month

  • Tmo_employee

    also our store goals have  gone down even though we have an all hands on day meaning tmobile them selves know we are going to have a bust of a month all hands on day is to take care of all the customers coming in for their account numbers because they are leaving us for the iphone 

    • Sad but probably true.  It will be a bad month for employees.

  • Fortrun22

    why would anyone buy the samsung galaxy s3 now? there is a strong possibility that many features of the phone will be taken out?? i think it would be a good public service to detail this topic and let people know before they are sign up for a two year contract and then have there phone stripped of possible features that may have grown accustomed to.

    • Third party ROMS baby.  Who CARES what they take out, we’ll just put it back.

      • Fortrun22

         if my only choice it to start flashing my phone then thats stupid. its a phone, dont feel like having to constantly flash to get updates. not everyone wants to root their phone and not everyone does.

    • Frettfreak

      There is nothing that will be taken out that is really any big deal… Oooh bounce back. Who cares? And it’s just not as bad as you think. Most the problem is with Samsung and touchwiz not android. That’s why there hasn’t been a suit aimed at Google.

      • Fortrun22

        thats a subjective stance, hyperlinks are a big deal to me. I hate that my htc cant do hyperlinks anymore. Dormant mode will most likely be taken out since its a rip off of do not disturb mode. those two alone worry me. yes i know that the suit affects touchwiz and not android. thats why i said WHY WOULD ANYONE BUY A SAMSUNG GALAXY S3 NOW?

  • Johndoe

    when will the iphone 4s get 3g?

    • guest

      well it does have it anywhere but tmobile…and it most likely will be introduced with LTE in 9 days

  • DjShadow

    Who cares I never gonna buy an iPhone even if apple is only the smartphone manufacture in the world ,, I don’t know Y people is to exited iPhone 5 is just the same iPhone 4,s 4 just with a bigger screen and iOs 6 like a android os look like

    • THE NEW IPHONE – SEPT 12

      apparently a lot of people disagree with you.  I might get one…almost everyone i know has one.  Ive never heard them complain about a single thing (no, they dont care its on 3g instead of LTE); they have excellent support from Apple which stands behind their products (not my experience with Samsung – in fact when I called tec support one day, the rep told me he was not familiar with the issue because he owned an iPhone; I told him thats probably not the best answer to give)…The iphone seems to work smoothly and have less problems than android.  My friends and family always laugh at all my problems with my phone and are pressing me to get the iphone.  Youll be so much happier.  And with a Mac present last yaer, the iphone would work seemlessly – no need for cables and complicated processes to transfer photos, music, videos etc

      • You’re absolutely right.  The iPhone just works.  Excellent customer support and plus they even have retail stores in metro areas for face to face support should you need it. Need to do a warranty exchange?  You can walk right into an Apple store and get a new iPhone the same day and walk out with everything from your old iPhone restored to your new one.  None of the “send it back to the manufacturer”, lose all games/app progress, messages, photos, etc. and wait for your replacement.

        • note_lover

          My son walked into a TMO store with his phone (having a minor issue) and walked out with a brand new phone.  All we had to do was send his old one back, now that was easy and great service!

    • Frettfreak

      100% could not agree more. I am actually happy that tmo doesn’t have the iphone. I didn’t really like apple before all the suits, now it’s festered into extreme hate and just don’t agree with any of their business values.

      • note_lover

        you hit the nail on the head…people are now disgusted with Apple because of the suits.

  • Chucc

    I think I’m gonna have to stay away from product from Samsung after hearing the verdict over the lawsuit they were in and lost. Ive been an android user every since I left the iPhone family when they released the iPhone 3G. The down side of having an android device is that the manufacture dpesnt bother to to keep there past android devices up to date with current andriod OS. Out of all the devices that been coming out from the last two years, not even half of them are getting OS updates. Instead manufacturers make new devices for consumers to purchase. A little memo to any company that have phones running the android OS, we want updated devices with current available OS. Applications developers are creating apps for the current OS, meaning that I can’t update some of my apps do to the android OS that is over due for an OS update. Big ups to Apple for keeping there past iPhones up to date……

    • NEXUSGUEST

      thats were the galaxy nexus comes in…im disappointed that it only gets 3g speeds and not the faster HSPA+42…So it might not be the greatest, but its still good.  The one thing that shocked me is there was not tons of bloatware.  There were some preinstalled apps I didnt want and I was shocked when I was easily able to uninstall them; I never had that experience.  The phone also updated immediately to Jelly Bean, which I read only about 1% of users have, and if they come out with another update, I’m pretty sure I’ll get that immediately too – and hopefully just over the phone and not have to deal with Kies or some other complicated way 

    • johnizkool

      That’s where custom ROMs come in ..ex:Cyanogemod

    • Frettfreak

      Wow… Ur dumb. With logic like that u deserve and Iphone.. That’s where u belong.

      • bleeew

        Why? So iOS users are dumb for saying the truth? Wow, android users are genius. Get back to the Samsung Genius Bar copy.

    • Tmofan

      Like all other OSes, not just for phones, new OSes cannot be made to support old devices forever. iOS 5.1.1 drops support for the iPhone 3G, iPod touch 2nd gen or older.  Apple does provide updates to older devices, but older devices suffer drastic bad performance after updating to the new iOS update because of the lack of hardware requirements, to the point that it may not even be usable.  That’s is the problem. Why provide updates on older devices when older devices cannot meet the requirements to even run the updated OS?

  • T1 Connect

    It’s a trick. T-Mobile is just trying to throw us off. They’ll be getting the first carrier branded iphone this year…now if you’ll excuse me I have to de-ice hell’s streets. It’s freezing down there. brrr.

    • Taron19119

      Yeah right

  • Ugh it’s a BAD time for Tmo.  NO iPhone… again. Their Note launch eclipsed by the Note 2 announcement.  Their GS3 overpriced, and still no iPhone.  Now desperate moves like free data (network suicide).  Make me sad.

    • Jessie

      will they EVER GET THE IPHONE?  Its not just that customers want it; its also that people think there must be something wrong with Tmobile when every major and several minors are getting the iphone.  

      • Bratty

        THIS. We know there is nothing wrong but perception often trumps reality. Its an uphill battle for the reps. Sigh.

  • Urmom

    I have a galaxy s 3 that I use now. But I recently traded my galaxy 2 for an iPhone 4. When will they reframe the network so it will be on 3g? I’m an employee and hope that since there is all the talk to sell against it, its because they are about to deploy the 3g for I phones. *fingercrossed

  • sorandkairi

    Lol, with that recent apple victory over samsung…. wouldn’t another slogan make more sense…. ( SG3 The most amazing iPhone yet.)

  • KJ

    As survey after survey has reported, not everyone needs unlimited data, and I wouldnt be surprised if they end up saying if you switch to an LTE phone (2013 or 2014), you cannot keep it.  Sales are a good thing, but if their sale is putting the SG3 at the same price as everyone else (199) thats not gonna do much.  They really need to provide immediate value.  Another weird Value Plan promotion that their own employees cant explain (and the store I went to a couple weeks ago, actually told me it’s not much savings unless you already own a phone; otherwise your payments will go on for 20 months so youll only end up saving $80 or so on a 2-year contract)…I wish theyd do a 1 week promotion on all their rate plans; Thats how I originally joined 6 years ago..They had a special that reduced your plan price by $10 for as long as you stay with T-mobile.  Something like that is EASY to understand.  They need something that is more attractive than the others.  I was planning on an iphone (and may still) but I won a Nexus that I can use on Prepaid contract free so Im willing to give Tmo & Android another chance and try it for a couple months…if its still not going smoothly, I can easily switch, get an iphone, wipe my Android and hopefully sell it to get enough money to pay for the iPhone.

  • johnizkool

    Ios 6 accomplished what Android 1.5 already did

    • Andrew Baxendale

       Your point it..? Android .1.5 is more than 4 years old. We are on 4.1, Jellybean, which is the best, fastest, and most intuitive software to date.

      • Frettfreak

        Pretty sure that IS his point…. IOS is dated and crap.

        • Rwatson

          android is an easy hack…

        • Tmofan

          Define “hack”. I guess jailbreaking iOS ain’t it.

        • bleeew

          Sure, android copied features from iOS, SG3 copied the percentage while Android users complain it coped Staus bar. They are features, and when will you use the features google gives you? If i did need the features i will get an app, cuz you know android needs to make it in the os cuz their apps are shit. and they also copy from jailbreak

        • Andrew Baxendale

           There are so many wrongs in here that I cannot begin to correct them. I’ll just let your closed, ignorant mind continue to care only about iOS and think that it is the greatest. Have a great day :)

        • Tmofan

          Dude, if you wanna trash talk an OS, at least know the OS, get the facts, and be smart. You sound like an idiot with your senseless comments.

      • Stephan Brubaker

        his point was, that the iPhone is on IOS 6 and it is just not accomplishing what Android 1.5 did, as you pointed out, 4 years ago. Before attacking somebody be sure you are actually taking in what their comment is trying to convey. 

        • Andrew Baxendale

           Yeah, sorry that was my bad. When I posted that it was 3:30am where I live. I was probably not fully capable of understanding that. Thank you for actually being nice about it though!

  • Rob

    Idgaf who has the iphoney. I’m sticking to android with the sgs3, Kindle fire, nexus 7, sensation, myTouch4G and whatever I get next. Only app device I used recent was the ipod

  • Instead of focusing on what another phone is gonna do, just sell what you have. Promote your own products, and tell people why they need to buy the SG3 and the HTC One S. All you are doing is giving up FREE advertising for them.

  • Ivan112623

    The IPhones are overpriced to do less and u have to stick to apple regulations. People who like IPhones its because their user friendly not because they want a better experience. all these people complaining that Tmobile wont get the iPhone 5 will be pissed when Tmobile does get it because IPhones take up too much data and slow down internet usage for any carrier theyre on. With the One x coming to Tmobile and the Note 2 this year I could care less about IPhones. The iPhone 5 isnt going to do anything that the galaxy s3 can already do maybe just 3d pictures but to me the 3d just gives headaches on phones anyways.

  • Therealmikebrown

    T-Mobile will push for those people who get the iPhone unlocked, thus unlimited data on reformed network. They should still attract their fair share of iPhone fanboys. With out having to take a loss with the sell of each phone.
    People with Android understand an iPhone is basically a midrange Android phone with a nice screen. They’ll look forward to a price drop on Android devices around the iPhone launch.

  • Ivan112623

    By the way T-Mobile will get the iPhone by next year when they go LTE. People complaning about s3 prices dont be stupid Tmobile has the best service for its monthly prices and their contracts are the lowest to break. They have to make up for it some how. Im sure u would rather pay a little more upfront on a s 3 instead of paying less upfront but more on your bill for 24months.

    • Whiskers

      That’s BS because if you have the Value Plan like i do you pay for your phone upfront anyways.
      So why should i pay more for the same phone others carry that usually have better specs.
      And it’s not a fair comparrison throwing in the phone with a monthly rate plan. You have to compare the phone costs only to really compare them cost wise.

      • Edy6401

        No, the monthly cost has to be factored in too. You pay for the phone and the monthly plan that goes with it. Also, the gs 3 has the same specs on all networks. So how can you get the same phone with better specs elsewhere? You don’t have to pay for the full price upfront on a value plan as long as you qualify for the interest free monthly payment. And if you do pay the phone off right away, then you get way lower monthly payment, saving money per month  on the long run. So, your comment makes sense how again?

      • Eanfoso

        Gusta because value plans work like that, do the math genious, its not that difficult to understand that value plans aré the best choice for consumers

        • Eeanfoso

          Simple :S

        • Whiskers

          No it does’nt go with it.
          I bought my phones (3) outright cash then decided on what plan i wanted.
          I am on the Value Plan as i stated and have done the math , thank you.
          Even if you buy them on the EIP , your still not getting the higher end T-Mobile phones available at their full price which is higher than the other carriers ask for of the same models.
          Phone for phone , you pay more through T-Mobile and get a medium grade level smartphone.
          AT&T sold the same versions of my HD7 and they smoke my T-Mobile phone 2 times around in quality and specs from the same manufaturer , HTC.
          But of course their monthly rate plan is ridiculous.

          T-Mobile rate plans are the cheapest , but other than a few phones like the GSII or III their phone selection is medium grade material. So one has to decide what their willing to pay for each month. And that comes down to the monthly rate plan your going to be roped on for Two Years.
          Which is still different than a “all in one” comparrison your talking about.

          So that’s how it makes since…

           

        • Whiskers

          That was suppose to be a reply for Edy6401

    • note_lover

      I agree, some people just don’t get that.  TMO has the best rates and a lot of people complain about poor service.  I’ve had TMO now for a little over 3 years (had other carriers over the years since the 90’s), and don’t have any issues with service. I have 3-5 bars (signal) and 4G for 90-95% of the time that I am out driving, inside buildings, etc. If I happen to have a signal issue at home (which does occur at times), I switch it to WiFi and I’m ready to go. All in all, money isn’t even the issue with me, it’s just common sense to try and save money if you can.  I’d rather pay a little more for the new high end phones and have a cheaper plan because I have  5 lines on my account.  If I were to go back to Verizon or AT&T, my monthly bill would almost be doubled what it is now with TMO!  Most people don’t go out an buy a phone the moment it gets released, which is great for some people.  They also don’t have more than one phone and resell them to get the next new one.  In fact, a majority of the people keep their phones for the 2 years (minus 3 months depending) and just renew / upgrade when the time comes.  

  • ghulamsameer

    Did anybody notice that the quotation marks in the title of this article are different fonts?

    • That’s strange, I can’t choose the font.

  • *Sigh* Will T-Mobile ever get the iPhone. If not then They need to make their myTouch brand better. That imo is the only brand I consider theirs and only care for.

    • Doakie

      I highly agree that they need to make them better. The HTC manufactured myTouch phones were excellent competitors to the iPhones of their time. But I think Android phones overall have grown beyond what carrier altered phones can provide. But I do often think back on how much I loved my black myTouch 4G…

  • DeadAstronautInSpace

    T-Mobile needs to push to get the Galaxy Note 2…But only is a bad-ass phone that blows any current phone including the iPhone way outta the water and not to mention that AT&T is getting it in October, but T-Mobile customers already missed it on the first Galaxy Note…Bringing the Note 2 to T-Mobile would be a smart move to combat the iPhone

    • Honestly, no it isn’t, those two phones appeal to vastly different audiences.

      • Aaron vita

        What phone do u have on tmobile David????

        • Android!!

          Samsung smiley

    • Android!!

      The iPhone is shit when compared to the Samsung Galaxy S3. It’s that simple. it is what it is.

      • Fortrun22

         nope wrong again. gs3 with all its power still lags. s-voice, dormant mode, home button, s cloud, kies. all just copy cats of iphone.

        • AppleJuice

          Another fruit fanboy omg ! You are a fool and a dumb that thinks apple is the only one that innovates !!… Iphone’s camera is from Sony, processor from Sammy and LG is making the display for the next fruity phone !!!

    • note_lover

      That’s the one I’m waiting for!  I just hope when Apple pushes to ban it (if it happens) it will have already sold millions of units, helping TMO and Samsung make their money!

  • gigis83

    even metropcs might pull out a iphone before tmo

    • Alda

      sad but true 

    • Doakie

      Super cool!!

  • Bryan

    This sucks.  I’m tired of the company with the best plans gets left out on the best phone (don’t argue tech specs, I’m talking the entire package…I’ve done the Android thing for a couple of years now and just don’t prefer it).

    • Doakie

      Go buy your expensive doorstop full price unlocked and use it on a value plan. Its simple. Also just because Android wasn’t a “complete package” for you doesn’t mean it is deficient in any category it just means its to complex for you to tie it together. Its the most complete package for a power user. Try to download music torrent files on your iPhone then email mp3s to your friends. Cant do it. iOS is too neutered for me. Android gives the most complete desktop like experience a mobile device can provide.

      • Guest911

         “… just because Android wasn’t a “complete package” for you doesn’t mean it is deficient in any category…”
        Actually that is exactly what it means. ayayay

      • note_lover

        Exactly!!!!

    • Tmofan

      yep.. iPhones are the best and that’s why Apple is trying to do everything they can even if it means dirty low play to stop other better phones from taking over its standing.

      • bleeew

        Umm, apple isnt suing becayuse its selling better, its suing because it looks like an iphone or copied some of its features. How do you think the Verizon Gs1 or mesmerize sold against att iphone(before vzw got an iphone) it had to copy the ui, without being detected of copying.

        • Tmofan

          Which features were copied? The pull-down notification center? I have to agree with you there. That’s a blatant ripoff of Apple’s patented UI feature…..  Apple never cared for early Android phones, and the features in the lawsuit were there in the early Android versions. Only when Apple saw the incredible surge of sales from Samsung devices, then they started nonsense lawsuits.  Look at the above picture, does the GS3 look like an iPhone?

        • Android!!

          apple sued because the galaxy s3 it’s a rectangle with round edges and it has a screen and it rings when you get a call. apple thinks only the iphone should be like that. apple is a f*****g joke.

  • Doakie

    I’m so glad they are still without the iPhone. I’m tired of Apple and everything they do. They’re a bunch of jerks and I want them away from my T-Mobile. Cellular plans are expensive enough. T-Mobiles value plans are already designed for you to bring your own device. Plus they’re refarming 1800 MHz band for you guys anyways. So stop crying.

    • Ronnie

       I’m sure you’ll be glad when those who have been waiting for it to finally arrive on T-Mo will be sorely disappointed and take their money any other carrier.

      • Guest911

        Ron – dont argue logic with fools. The fact that customers are LEAVING and paying more for a fantastic device doesn’t register with them.

  • Taron19119

    There are 25 t-mobile s around the world and all but one(t-mobile usa ) has the iphone dt has a deal wit apple giveing every t-mobile but the us T-Mobile the iphone so y cant dt add T-Mobile usa to that deal

    • They won’t add T-Mo USA yet because our network is not yet finished being refarmed to support the iPhone.  It would be a PR disaster if T-Mobile USA sold an iPhone that was only capable of 2G speeds in most areas.  It would be known as the slow iPhone and would make both T-Mobile and Apple look bad.

      • Taron19119

        Not at all if apple is going to add lte like it did in the ipad then it well need a aws chipset cause Verizon lte use aws so why not just add hspa to the aws chipset

        • Android!!

          yes that is correct if apple wanted iphone on t-mobile they would just make it hspa.

      • Android!!

        you do know that t mobike is not changing their network for the iPhone right? if apple wanted the iPhone on tmobile they would make a t-mobile version 3g or 4g.

      • bleeew

        Look at Sprint. They gave it 2G speeds in most places. Sprint shows 3G but acts 2G, and the Circle is also a 2G icon. So, instead Sprints cheap asss customers got it and pretend its better than anyone else cuz of unlimited data, when they can barely load a facebook status.

  • Tmofan

    Don’t really care much for the iphones. The GS3 is light years more advanced from the ancient same old design iphones. My Tmo contract is up next month and I am looking forward to the reduced price for the GS3 and truely unlimited plans.

    • bleeew

      GS3 is advanced in terms of Hardware, but when you put android, it makes it sloooww. And i only think GS3 is popular because of screeb size since non tech savvy dont know specs. But the GS3 copied the iPhones camera. And iOS has better apps, while android has bad app support and bad app which makes then free cuz no one aint payin for it.

      • Tmofan

        Brainwashed or you’re just a cheapo buying knockoffs cheap Android phones and compare them to the iphones. Did you really use a GS3 or a high end Android phone? Copied the camera? hahaha..

        • note_lover

          LOL, obviously someone who doesn’t know what’s he’s talking about!

      • Android!!

        you have very little knowledge when it comes to phone from what it looks like.

        • Fortrun22

           no he is right. thats why project butter came along. because people wanted a smooth experience vs the lag that android brings. your not a smart person

        • Android!!

          and you’re not a very good speller. it’s you’re not your.

        • note_lover

          LOL!  Love it!

      • Jizz

        My galaxy nexus with jellybean smokes the iPhone 4s in every possible way. Me and my brother ran every benchmark test possible and my g-nex smoked him and his tiny iPhone. As far as real world use they were pretty much even so don’t come with that Android is slow bs. To me the iPhone is a smartphone for dummies. If that offends anyone then fahq off.

      • AppleJuice

        Copied the camera ?… Wow you are dumbass !!! I think that you haven’t used an android and don’t know how to use it !!!

        • note_lover

          LOL!!!

      • Edy6401

        What a joker.

  • I really hope the combination of unlimited data and 3G capable unlocked iPhones will save T-Mobile from repeating the disastrous quarter that we had last year due to the 4S launch.  There still will likely be some subscriber loss but hopefully less this time around.

  • Scase66

    I believe the iPhone has reached it’s apex. Apple is alienating it’s own faithful with the constant patent attacks and the 4s is already 3 generations behind flagship Android devices in terms of performance and usability. Unless the 5 is some kind of phenomenal leap ahead i would guess their market share will continue to erode. 

    • bleeew

      People aren’t getting iPhones for its specs, but because it has iOS. People i know wanted android just for the screen size, and now regret it. iOS is really smooth, while android will need a faster processor to be as smooth, and it uses less RAM. iPhone also have nice hardware and design. And non tech savvy think an iPhone is fast, and people get it for apps, wake up iPhone is the most popular smartphone. Look at ATT, they sell iPhones like hotcakes. And its not just iPhone users upgrading to another newer iPhone, its also android users who dont like androidOS. Im leaving android for iOS

      • Android!!

        no it’s idiots selling their iphone 4 to buy the iphone4s.

        • Whitney

           Doubt it

      • AppleJuice

        Who cares if you leave and get an iphone ??? People don’t get Androids because of a larger screen, they get them because Androids are different and not boring !!!

      • Edy6401

        People will buy what they want to buy, because they like it and it works for them. ios or Android. That being said, I do believe the current switch in the market will continue. The iphone is in all honesty getting a little bit old, people will always buy the iphone, I think their numbers will continue to drop and will make the iphone a nitch market. This is my opinion and time will tell.

        • UMA_Fan

          The thing is I see very few devices that people would drop their iPhones for.  There are devices you can point to that people would most likely buy INSTEAD  of the iPhone if the two were next to each other but I don’t see many Android phones that iPhone users would be willing to jump to.

        • note_lover

          What???????

        • 21stNow

          When did iPhone sales start dropping?

        • samagon

          In the US? Never. In the EU, I haven’t seen sales numbers, but market share is dropping in Germany, Italy, Spain, France, any big market in the Euro, the iPhone is dropping market share from anywhere between 5-10% overall.

          Is this the big inhale before the iPhone 5 hits after the disappointment that was the 4S, or is it general disgust at Apple’s patent battle? Only time will really tell.

        • 21stNow

          Dropping market share is not the same as sales dropping.  Using hypothetical numbers, if there were 25 million smartphones sold in 2009 and 10 million of them were iPhones, Apple had a 40% market share.  If there were 60 million smartphones sold in 2011 and 15 million of them were iPhones, Apple drops to a market share of 25% while increasing yearly sales by 50% over 2009.

      • Brian

        Windows 8 is coming in October.  The combination of Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 on laptops, desktops, tablets, and phones will be hard to resist.  And it will make both iOS and Android look like the outdated OSes that they are.

        Better still, one of the first new Windows Phone 8 handsets on the market will be the Samsung ATIV S on T-Mobile, along with Nokia’s new handsets.

        The Android versus iOS debate is like arguing whether the Whigs or Progressive Party are the best party for America.  They’re both obsolete, the past!

        • Whiskers

           BIngo , and you can bet HTC will bring some quality WP8 into the picture as well.

      • samagon

        People aren’t getting the iPhone for iOS, that’s for sure. They get it because it looks nice.

        iOS is so restrictive. Want apps? have to be approved. Want music? Have to go through iTunes. Want widgets? Too bad.

        iOS is very cleaned and polished, that’s no lie, but the restrictions and handicaps that Apple give themselves are just not worth the hassle, IMO.

        We’re all entitled to do what we want with our money, and I hope you don’t regret your choice.

    • note_lover

      True, I agree 100%.  More and more people are leaving Apple and switching to Android phones.

  • Geraldine

    Honestly, does anyone really know if they will EVER get the iphone this year?

    • Android!!

      T-Mobile will never get the iphone.

  • The End Is Near T-Mobo!!!!

    Why would T-Mobile U.S.A. be getting the i-phone 5 when the company will no longer exist in 2013! They are bleeding more and more customers every quarter, pretty soon they will only have 1 customer left!! Companies like U.S.Cellular and TracFone will get the i-phone before T-Mobo it wouldn’t surprise me if even Jitterbug and SafeLink get it before them!!! LMMFAO

    • Android!!

      so it looks like we have the owner of t-mobile here knowing plans for 2013.

    • bleeew

      And? Look at Sprint, the didn’t even get profit yet. T-Mobile will exist because its has low cost rates.

      • Fortrun22

         sprint is making a profit sir and tmobile is losing over 200k customers per quarter.

        • Android!!

          sprint making profit? are you high?

    • Mr_Vault

       Hmm, let’s see now. Tmo is in the black, making profit. Sprint is in the red, loosing money due to its iPhone rape by Apple…. Sure glad you’re not a stock broker, because with your insight, you’d be broke. Tmo isn’t going anywhere except up. Bottom line is not the number of customers, its whether you’re making a profit and Tmo is doing well. The ATT fiasco put a dent in their fender but the car is out of the body shop now and looking very good. If you wish to place a wager with me about Tmo being here in 2013 or even 2014, just name the amount.

  • TonyMiami

    My question is why would you waste your time with this crap. No one is going to take the Samsung over the Iphone……Not even ME………..

    • Edy6401

      Speak for yourself.

      • Eeanfoso

        Selfish person, anyone with a brain and basic common sense will choose a sg3 over an iCrap

        • bleeew

          Yes, because rich people who buy apple products are dumb… Smh, i can say people are dumb for choosing a gs3 and that the plastic is made to fool people into thinking its metal, or the laggy os of android, and the screeb size just for movies??? People have choices, dont judge then for choosing what they want with their money, i have an android but ios is smooth and has some cool apps and has nice hardware design and software.

        • Android!!

          apparently you haven’t figured out that apple uses glass to make their phones so when you drop it it breaks and you have to keep buying a new iphone to make money off of you.

        • Fortrun22

           oh is that why they make it out of glass? or was it because it made it look better and disperses heat better? by the way genius, until 2012 apple care used to replace your broken iphone for free, so you would not have to buy a new one. but what do you know.

        • Android!!

          yea I’m sure they replace it for free. they charge a fee a reduced fee. but what do you know.lol

        • note_lover

          Apple doesn’t do anything for free!  Just in the past month or so, I’ve had 3 friends have problems with their iPhone for whatever reason and they all had out of pocket expenses and are going to switch over to Android!

        • Fortrun22

           no anyone with a brain will buy an iphone. here’s why, android is a wanna be iphone. why buy the phone thats just like the iphone when you can just buy the iphone.

        • AppleJuice

          What a fanboy of the fruit omg ! That’s your thought boy ! I really understood that you like the fruit phone !!!

    • AppleJuice

      You said no one huh ?! Can u please let me laugh at your face ?!?… Speak for yourself like they guy said !!! Who cares if you don’t buy the GS3, there are more people out there that likes Android over IOS !!!

      • Fortrun22

         oh ok, im sure the fact the majority of android phones sold were buy one get one free and cheaper than the iphone had nothing to do with why people bought android.

    • Mr_Vault

       Thats just dumb bro. Android is like a 65% market share to Apple’s 20-ish% market share. More people… WAY more people prefer Android over IOS. Sammy’s GS3, Note, GS2, all blow the iPhone out of the water in features, speed and looks. With new Sammy phones coming out multiple times per year, the lead will just get bigger and bigger. Deal with it.

  • buster

    I know that for T-mobile to get the iPhone from apple is expensive but do they not see how many more customers they will get if they get the iPhone? Like Cricket and Virgin mobile already got it, T-mobile get it together, but when I go to T- mobile I’m getting the SG3, but that’s what T-moblie should do for a business choice.

    • Jay20

       especially considering how even if a deal with Apple hurts T-Mo in the short run financially, it could help them BIG in the intermediate-to-long term, as they could then raise capital by going public and offer a viable stock.

  • TRASH MOBILE!!

    Trash Mobile Is DONE if they don’t hurry up and find a way to get the i-Phone 5 into there stores on the 21st!!!!

    • Android!!

      yea tmobile will get the iPhone in 2 weeks just for you.

    • Literacy, PLEASE!

      “Their,” not “there.”

      • note_lover

        LO!

    • JBLmobileG1

      Why? So you can get the idiot phone? Ooppss I mean the iphone.

  • Sad Employee—

    Its sad to see the tmobile ship sinking so fast like the titanic, employees are getting outsourced,laid off,fired, and now so many are even quiting, leaving on there own terms to the competition…Smh

  • macman37

    Everyone,

    Please know that this “Sell against the iPhone” tactic that T-Mobile is planning on doing is the same type of tactic that Verizon Wireless did before they got their version of the iPhone 4.  They are doing to reduce the possible number of churns {people switching to other carriers that officially sell the iPhone}.  They also have to prepare for a possible liquidation sale of the Samsung smartphones that Apple is planning to ban from being sold in the USA; what better way than to lower the price when they foresee it coming?  With the very strong possibility of the iPhone 5 including LTE capability, it would be very dumb on Apple if they did not include support for the AWS frequency bands.  Why?  According to cNet’s Maggie Reardon, although lower frequencies like the 700 Mhz travel further and have better obstacle penetration than the AWS frequency bands of 1700 and 2100, the AWS frequency bands offer more capacity to pack in more data than lower frequency bands.  Now, when Voice over LTE [VoLTE] comes out, this is when Apple will be taking a closer look at striking a deal with T-Mobile.  All of our calls made through our network’s LTE will be through data.  AT&T would not have had to give up their AWS bands if they their acquisition of T-Mobile went through; now they’re crying and starting to give better service for the possible scenario of T-Mobile becoming an official carrier of the iPhone.  Verizon acquired more AWS bands to help prepare for any LTE traffic difficulties; and was willing to strike a deal with T-Mobile so that the FCC and DoJ could approve their acquiring of more AWS frequency band.

    I’m very sorry to say that T-Mobile will not be announced as an official iPhone 5 carrier when the device is announced; but they WILL BE when their LTE networks are launched AND when Apple is satisfied with their amount of markets.  They’re hauling ass like crazy, and hopefully it will be early in the first quarter of 2013.

    • Android!!

      you wrote a lot and at the end you sir make no sense.

  • Entspannter

    Financially ask yourself why do they need the IPhone right here, right now? Sprint has the IPhone and won’t make 1 cent from it until next year. Yes people leave T Mo for carriers that sell the IPhone, however it isn’t as if NO ONE signs up for T Mobile anymore. People seem to forget that for every customer on a flagship phone there are 10 or more on feature phones, or lower tier smartphones.. Go visit your local Wal Mart and see how many people are buying Wal Mart Family Mobile, or Monthly 4G or even T Mobile postpaid(without the IPhone I might add). The long term money is in the service anyway, so again I ask, how the IPhone is going to “save” t Mobile?

    • Android!!

      apple fanboys don’t are blinded and don’t see reality.

      • Android!!

        apple fanboys are blinded and don’t see reality.

        • bleeew

          And android fanboys say that, even though some people guy a gs3 and were dumb to buy one in the first place. We make our money, so let us choose the iphone if we want. Its not like were dumb to see a price tag.

        • Android!!

          you have the right to choose an iphone. you just have to know that you are paying the same amount of money as a s3 for a lesser phone.

        • Enzowned

          You don’t get the average consumer whatsoever, nor the appeal of an iPhone. This isn’t a specs race. Android is, because it needs to be. They each have their merit, to ignore one, or be ignorant of it, that is what really is stupid. So take your blind ignorance elsewhere.

        • Android!!

          people only buy an iphone because that it’s called an iphone. it is a very popular phone but not the better phone.

        • Enzowned

          but that’s exactly what you fail to understand. The word “better” is subjective, and you are absolutely no authority in telling them what’s better for them. They know what they like. They know what they’re demanding, this is the reason it’s kind of a big deal. This is the reason for any news related article regarding T-Mo and an iPhone. If you were right, there would be no such news. 

          It’s absolutely asinine to not see the merits in the iPhone and iOS. It is a smooth user experience, which is an area where Android still lacks. This is the reason why iPhone’s don’t need a specs race. The software is designed and optimized for the hardware. This is something that is just almost impossible to get on Android. This coupled with the bigger developer scene, and yes, simpler apps is what sells. Not what you think should. Get over it. 

        • isheep sad face

          People buy the iPhone out of pretentiousness. Very hipster phone. “I have an iPhone. I’m so cool. Pay attention to me!”

        • Fortrun22

          and thats a fact right? fanboys are so delusional and irritating

        • barbar47

          not true….I have an s3 and my wife has an iphone…my phone may have more power, but it just lacks the crispness and usability that the iphone has.  I would take the 4s over my s3 no questions asked…And it is not because I am a “fanboy”  I wanted to love the s3…

        • Fortrun22

           its a lesser phone according to you. but what else are fan boys gonna say. i have an android and i deifinitely see the appeal of the iphone.

    • macman37

      Simply when T-Mobile calculates their future possible losses of when they can no longer sell the Samsung Galaxy III and other Samsung Smartphones like the Nexus that infringe on Apple’s patents.  That and knowing that it’s all about making a worthwhile smart investment.  Sprint’s CEO Dan Hesse will tell you!  Understand the term investment; it’s about willing to make a sacrifice now, so that you can profit more in the future.

      • Android!!

        so you must be a judge right? assuming automatically just because a request to ban Samsung phones happened it will 100% happen. you are an idiot and now nothing about this stuff. Samsung will not allow their phones to be banned.

        • Android!!

          know*

  • Average Consumer

    If someone wants to buy a Toyota Camry and instead, the sales rep insists on selling the benefits of the Honda Accord.. the consumer is going to go where he can buy a Toyota Camry. 
    Say what you will about this consumer (he’s uneducated, simple, doesn’t like change, is paying too much, etc), he’s going to buy what he wants. The trick is to sell the benefits of the Honda Accord while offering the CHOICE of the Toyota Camry for folks who have made up their minds. 

    • Taeter_Tot

      A dealership is incomparable to a phone company…aka…you’re an idiot for trying.

    • Brian

      Not as simple.  This is more like the customer wanting a BMW 5 series.

      He’s used to paying $9,000 for the car and buying fuel from Shell for $50/gallon to pay for the rest of the car.

      Meanwhile, T-Mobile sells a Ford Fusion for $5,000 and fuel for $20/gallon.  And it wants to sell a Ford Fusion for $20,000 eventually, with gas at $2/gallon.

      Apple is BMW in this situation.  It won’t let them sell the iPhone at its actual cost, and T-Mobile cannot sell service at a price high enough to cover the subsidy.  (Sprint tried it, and look at how poorly they’re doing these days).

      So T-Mobile will let people who want the iPhone/BMW buy it for full price and get a cheap plan.  But there will be a large group of people who say “I got a BMW for only $9,000” and ignore the fact they’re paying $50/gallon for gas.  For those people I say, well, enjoy paying WAY too much.

      • od312

        Huh??

  • Taron19119

    Yeah iphone on t-mobile I cant wait 9/12/12 is the day hell well freeze over

    • Benny

      What? How do you know? The 1900mhz will be up nationwide on the 12ve?

  • T-Mo Sinking Ship…

    T-Mobile is like that sinking ship that sank back in January in Italy the Costa Concordia and Philip Humm was the Captain of the T-Mo ship and he did just like the Captain of the Costa Concorda he fled and left everyone stranded to die as the ship sunk Titanic Style!!!

    • Robin

      Holy punctuation, Batman.

      • note_lover

        LOL!

  • galaxy dude

    Last month I added a line to my att account today I get a bill for 360.27$ wtf it’s supposed to be 187.65 a month what should I do.

    • Android!!

      it’s suppose to teach you a lesson

    • Android!!

      it’s suppose to teach you a lesson.

    • GUEST

      prorated charges. call and just keep saying you dont understand. They will credit.. or atleast I did when i was a CARE rep for AT&T.. had to let that horrible company go.. they have $250 they can cred. to your account.

      • Android!!

        yea call at&t they will pay you bill. lmfao

    • ScrewT-Mobile

      Prorated charges, activation fee and billing in advance. There’s no lesson to be taught tmobile does all of the above to. Use your brain before you tell people to learn their lessons.

  • galaxy dude

    360.27 $ for 2 lines wtf this is bull – Shit

  • T-Mobile iPhone5 Please!

    I don’t understand why prepaid carriers have the iPhone and T-Mobile does not?! We can all say that T-Moible does not need the iPhone but in reality T-Mobile really does need the iPhone to survive! If the tables were turned and T-Mobile only sold the iPhone, Android lovers would be crying saying that T-Mobile needs Android devices. Ultimately it would do no harm to see the iPhone land on T-Mobile. It would give costumers the choice and the flexibility of having a lower monthly phone bill compared to ATT, Verizon, and Sprint! 

    • iPhone!!

      Actually yes they do need the iPhone to survive! Have you not opened your eyes and seem how Verizon and ATT are doing? I guess not because they are doing pretty well with the iPhone! 

      • Guest911

        Agree. He is an idiot. Tmo needs the iPhone. Period.

      • Android!!

        lmfao

      • Brian

        Have you seen Sprint’s financials since selling the iPhone?

        Hint: They’ve had to tell investors that the HUGE losses from it are “worth it,” because they expect customers will stick around for two years with an outdated 4S and they’ll “make it up eventually.”

        T-Mobile is more like Sprint than like Verizon or AT&T.  If they subsidize the device and take the hit like Sprint is, it will bankrupt them (as it is doing to Sprint now).

      • Farhan Ahmed

        That’s because Verizon and AT&T have the money to get the iPhone. You conveniently forgot to mention Sprint which paid $15 billion to get the iPhone and has not done well at all.

        T-Mobile does not need the iPhone to survive. They have a better strategy imo of upgrading their network to get the AT&T iPhone to work on 3g.

      • theking_13

        Verizon and Sprint have actually tanked in profit since getting the iPhone. They have to shell out so much money to keep the iPhone flowing, and Sprint is damn near on the verge of collapsing because they paid way too much for it.

        And the only prepaid carrier I’ve seen with the iPhone is Virgin Mobile, which is a daughter company of Sprint, and you have to pay full price for the iPhone anyways. Might as well buy it unlocked from Apple and use on T-Mobile, same effect.

      • JBLmobileG1

        I look at it this way… once every carrier gets the iphone it won’t help much for sales afterwards… It will come down to who has the best network though. If the Tmobile customers haven’t left for another carrier already then I doubt they will leave now if Tmobile doesn’t carry the iphone. The iphone reminds me of the old Motorola Razor. Sure it was one hot phone at one point which everyone wanted but once all the carriers started to carry it, it became a thing of the past. Now that a new Razor is released you don’t see everyone flocking to Verizon for it now do you?

        • Bratty

          People dont generally switch carriers for Android phones but people are leaving Tmo for the iphone. If nothing else, having it will stem the bleeding.

      • guest

        lmfao

  • Josue

    getting an iPhone is like rejecting Kate Upton for Snooki doesnt add up 

    • Fortrun22

       biased much? fanboys are so silly

    • Bud

      maybe snookie gives better head.

  • Nearmsp

    I am on a value plan. If T-mobile is able to run the iPhone 5 on 3G, I will be more than happy to buy an iPhone for full price from the Apple stores. I know T-mobile is just doing that and its network will be able to handle LTE from the second half of next year. Frankly, T-mobile NOT being the official carrier for Apple is better for T-mobile. It will go broke trying to subsidize iPhones with such a low monthly charge. Most people will not calculate the cost of the phone ownership over 2 years and thus T-mobile will not make enough sales to justify an agreement with Apple. I thus support what T-mobile is doing now, which is to farm the 2G for LTE and allow customers to bring “AT&T iPhones” to the T-mobile network.

    • Desutoroido

      My iphone just got 3G signal now in Vegas. So im pretty sure the iphone 5 should work as well

    • Setzer715

       Couldn’t have said it better myself.  People just don’t understand the amount of money T-Mobile would lose subsidising the iPhone.  Sprint is dying because of it.  T-Mobile, in my opinion, would die also.

  • Mirad77

    Guys please! Am pretty sure everyone see the number of customers that leave T-Mobile every quater. So if you have to leave because of the iphone then save journey. T-Mobile will not cary the iphone anytime soon. But don’t you forget that walmart and Simple Mobile are still T-Mobile. For those asking when they can have an iphone, the answer is now. Just go to apple store and get one. I have own every iphone that exist and now even my wife prefers Gnex to iphone 4s( factory unlocked). You have your preference like I have mine so don’t let the door hit you out. Let’s also remember that as it is T-Mobile is still profitable as  oppossed to Sprint.

  • SMELL THIS!

    T-MO NOT getting the i-phone 5 DOES NOT PASS THE SMELL TEST!!! Something is up…

  • Desutoroido

    Got 3G now with my Iphone here in Vegas

    • BigMixxx

      Headed down the highway the other day, picked up pockets of 3g. Didn’t see anything in near my office (in the enterprise area).

    • RobbyG

       Do you has 4G?!  Buahahahaha. 

      Seriously though, Apple seems silly to me, they have invested so much money into the iPhone in the way of screen, camera, software they fell behind EVERY other phone manufacture in the data speed market.  How long has 4G been around?  Did they intentionally leave out 4G antennae in favor of other features or was there never a demand for it from iPhone users? 

      I am genuinely curious, I own a GS3, but my entire family owns the iPhone 4S, I prefer Android, but the iPhone is a great phone nonetheless.

      • If you’re referring to LTE, they didn’t add it last year to the 4S because Verizon was the only carrier with a decent LTE network and the LTE chips still sucked battery like crazy.

        They added the “4G” HSPA+ to the 4S that AT&T uses.  T-Mobile also uses HSPA+ for its 4G.

  • Skip Bayless

    HAHAHAH they cant stop me from getn iphone5 

  • Helllololi

    How come everyone like the iphone?

  • samuelen

    “If T-Mobile isn’t going to sell the iPhone, than it would be a good idea…”

    People often mistakenly use “then” instead of “than”, but “then” is, indeed, the correct word in this case.

  • Bronze 6

    why is everyone talking about T-Mobile needing to get the iPhone?
    There are two primary reasons why T-Mo would most likely NOT be carring the iPhone.
    1) Sprint, It will not make a profit off its iPhone investment until, 2015 (4 Years)
    2) Apple won’t talk to T-Mo because, T-Mo was the launch carrier of, Android.

    • Bud

      Jim number 2 is right.

      • tmoUK>tmoUSA

        you are both wrong when it comes to number 2….You do know that tmo in the uk has the iphone so why not have the us branch carry it, oh wait i forgot they are trying to rid themselves of their u.s carrier.

    • Number 2 is wrong.  Apple doesn’t want to add support for T-Mobile’s current 1700/2100 bands to its device.  They don’t feel like T-Mobile’s subscriber base is worth the cost of adding a new radio to the iPhone.  They were willing to add CDMA support to the iPhone for Verizon because of its size.  They have around 100 million customers.  Since Sprint/Virgin/Cricket all use similar tech to Verizon, they were also able to benefit from this.

      T-Mobile is still refarming their network to support 3G/4G HSPA+ on the iPhone but it won’t be ready by Sept. 21st so there’s no point right now.  Apple won’t allow a carrier to launch an iPhone that is only capable of 2G speeds and I’m sure T-Mobile wouldn’t want users to be under the impression that they have the “slow” iPhone.  I can see T-Mobile possibly officially launching an iPhone in early 2013 once the full network has been upgraded and LTE rollout has begun.

  • WSJ

    I really do not care what the cost of the iphone is, as long as it works at full speed.  I cannot wait to dump my 5 Android phones and buy 5 iphones.  Why TMO cannot make a deal is beyond me. TMO is leaving me with no choice but to leave for AT&T (I had SBC before, over-priced and poor service and do not really want to go back, but I need GSM phones.). 

    If an unlocked iPhone 5 will work at full speed and will work with TMO future LTE, then I will stay and buy some iPhones, but if not, so long VoiceStream.

  • Whitney

    Something is not adding up and I highly doubt it that HTC phone

    • Taron19119

      Every thing is saying iphone just look at Verizon

      • guest

        lol

  • JBLmobileG1

    Maybe the first phase is the announcement of the Unlimited High Speed Data plan which is supposed to launch on the 5th. I am assuming it’s still a go because I haven’t heard much else about it.

  • Whitney

    Why do get the feeling that this make or break situation for them

  • 21stNow

    The Galaxy S III can use the LTE network on other carriers, as opposed to T-Mobile. AT&T’s LTE speeds are blazing fast where I live, so I can see how Whiskers’ comment makes sense.

    • Whiskers

       Thank You !

  • GinaDee

    I know Apple will be selling the iPhone 4s for about $375 unlocked after the iPhone 5 launch.  This low price should attract the prepaid types out there especially after T-Mobile’s PCS network is refarmed.  Unfortunately these refarm efforts will only apply to existing HSPA+ 42 areas which means the current GPRS and EDGE only areas will sadly remain 2G.

    People can go into an Apple store and then bring their unlocked iPhone to T-Mobile for a prepaid micro SIM.  I can see how this will be cool for those in metro areas. 

    Not having the iPhone 5 for loyal higher paying postpaid subs is a major drag and marketing nightmare.  This is one of those times where T-Mobile has been proven once again slow at their game.  If they are too cheap to pay Apple the subsidy they require to resell these phones then they better step it up and accelerate their LTE plans.  We as paying customers should give them a lot of heat and put up with ZERO excuses for GPRS in 2012.  We need to let T-Mobile know that being cheap on CAPEX / network spending comes back to bite them in the arse the way it is now.  

    • Chiva2699

      I don’t think it’s them bring cheap, but rather them not having the funds necessary to carry the device along with the funds necessary to improve the network to carry all the traffic if they were to have it.

    • Setzer715

       I’m guessing by your comment that you live in a rural area that T-Mobile hasn’t upgraded from 2G?  It sucks yes, but your generalizing something that is not quite as big as you state.

      T-Mobile’s HSPA network covers 200 million people.  I don’t live in a “metro” area, I have 17-21mbps download speeds.  Metro insinuates a “downtown” area but that is just not true for coverage.  MOST of T-Mobile’s sites have been upgraded.  Others are typically not upgraded due to lack of available back haul.

      As far as subsidising the iPhone, well, I think your quite uninformed on what Apple really wants for it.  It’s not cheap.

    • 21stNow

      I doubt that the unlocked iPhone 4S will sell for ~$375, since the unlocked iPhone 4 sells for $549 today and it is over two years old.

  • Chiva2699

    I think the first phase would be enabling iPhones to work with T-Mobiles reframed- spectrum. If you think about it it’s fairly logical, because by the time the iPhone is released T-Mobile will have 4G/3G functionality to draw people in (supposing my theory is correct). If so, I can’t wait to have my 4s show 4G instead of only Edge. :)

    • Android!!

      iphone at best would only run at 3g after the network is updated.

      • Chiva2699

        The 4s should theoretically be able to have 4G, since it supports HSPA+ in the 1900mhz spectrum ( which t-mobile will now have with the refarming).

      • Setzer715

         The 4s is a HSPA+ phone (21Mbps) and that is the speeds it will run on T-Mobile.  T-Mobile’s “4G” phones are HSPA++ (42Mbps) phones.  Don’t let the 3G/4G icons on your phones confuse you.  iPhone will run at great speeds on T-mobile when they launch 1900MHz.  Maybe not as fast as the Galaxy line, but still faster than ATT!

        • Spanky

          “Maybe not as fast as the Galaxy line, but still faster than ATT!”

          I don’t know about that. AT&T’s HSPA+ speeds in my neighborhood reach about 10 Mbps downstream (LTE reaches about 30 Mbps). T-Mobile’s top out at about 0.5 Mbps.

        • Therealmikebrown

          .5 is not hspa+. That’s slow 3g.
          The Amaze gets 21mps over here. At&t ain’t touching that, here at least. And an iPhone 4s could never touch that.

        • Spanky

          See my response to MatthewMurawski above. I have no problems with T-Mobile, but their service in my area is unacceptable. It wasn’t always this bad (I used to be able to get about 2.5 Mbps, which was acceptable), but a year went by, and T-Mobile wasn’t doing anything to rectify the issue. I miss the low bills (although my AT&T bill is only $30/month higher), but I don’t miss the service.

          With regards to the iPhone 4S, I wouldn’t know. I’ve never owned an iPhone, and am not planning on ever owning one.

        • MatthewMurawski

          You must live in a bad area for T-Mobile. My T-Mobile HSPA+ 42 phone tops out at 20.35 Mbps here in NYC.

        • Spanky

          I live in the Bensonhurst area of Brooklyn, which, according to T-Mobile’s coverage map, should have the best possible 4G coverage. If 0.5 Mbps constitutes the best possible coverage, I guess the coverage maps are correct. In fact, this is the main reason why I left T-Mobile.

        • MatthewMurawski

          I live in queens near the west central border.

  • MatthewMurawski

    Why do you people have to start fan wars on every single article? Doesn’t it get old? The reason the arguments go on and on is because some people prefer different things than others. Humans are unique beings and like it or not, you can’t make everyone be exactly like you, so stop telling people they’re dumb and brainless and lack common sense for a relatively unimportant decision they made. This is not only pointless, but it’s hateful. People just defend their phones so loyally because they want to feel more special or important than others. Well guess what. It’s not going to work. So just stop. Because your Galaxy S3 or your iPhone 4S doesn’t make you more important than you would be without it.

    • Chickenundermynails

      Preach my brother!

    • note_lover

      Finally, a voice of reason!

    • 21stNow

      Yes, please stop with the attacks!  Other people are not dumb/stupid/any other negative name for choosing an iPhone.

    • od312

      Awe. Are we punished now? I defend android because they’re the one I believe in. It has noting to do with importance.

  • Anton Yatsenko

    Damn T-mobile reminds me of Dana White from UFC. He hated on Fedor Emilianenko because Fedor refused to sign with UFC. T-Mobile hates on Apple and iPhone because they will not get the new iPhone.

    Everyone knows that most of the people want and will buy new iPhone. It is probably the number one wish-list phone ever created. Don’t get me wrong, I am Android user – but I am not blinded with fan-boy rage and see that Apple product is super highly desired and will be selling like crazy. From this I conclude that T-Mobile should STFU and improve their customer service and contract department instead, who are f*cking people up by adding and extending contracts without their notice.

    • Jamie

      and more average consumers will wonder what the hell is wrong with T Mobile that Apple won’t give them an iPhone.

  • Frank Alvarez

    I like the iPhone, I want the iPhone and I have waited long enough for T-Mobile to get the iPhone. When my contract ends, I’m buying  Virgin iPhone. 
    Now I wish AT&T had succeeded in their take-over. The folks running T-Mobile will continue to run it into the ground.

    • Android!!

      good bye.

    • Justknowenough

      Just buy an unlocked iPhone and with all the reframing of Tmobile”s network, you will catch 3G for sure. Don’t waste ur time on virgin mobile. A.k.a Sprint. Virgin doesn’t have unlimited data. But Tmobile will have it in a few weeks.

      • Fjabills

        T-mobile could serve up an iPhone the way Virgin mobile does, at full retail with no contract. It would not cost them a dime. The T-Mobile plan I am on has no phone subsidies, so the Samsung SIII is a $699 phone…which is $50 more than the iPhone 4s at Virgin.

    • Setzer715

       The iPhone is NOT a save all for the company, if you think so you’re VERY miss informed.  My wife has an iphone 4s, yes full retail cost but it works great on T-Mobile.  I prefer Android and to each their own with that.

      Subsidising the iPhone is just something T-Mobile is not willing to do.  The Evil Empire (Apple) wants just too much for it and it would most likely break T-Mobile’s bank to do it.  This, would kill the company 10 times faster than NOT carrying the phone.

    • fixxmyhead

      lol the iphone on virigin which uses sprints sh!tty @ss slow network good luck with that

    • drooling 4ifone

      just remember the Virgin iPhone will only work on the Virgin network. Your paying un locked money but you’re not getting an unlocked phone.

  • BigMixxx

    Lol…I was thinking…

    Maybe t mobile is paying migration fees….

  • Tomnewtn

    I use an unlocked iPhone 4s  on Tmo and it works great. 

    • Spanky

      If slower than molasses EDGE speeds satisfy your data needs, than I’m sure it works great.

  • Tomnewtn

    I forgot to add that I would never buy a Samsung Galaxy anything.

    • Spanky

      Although I despise Apple’s litigious behavior, I own two Apple products that I use on a regular basis – the Apple TV and iPod Touch. However, I would never buy an iPhone, regardless of price. In the unlikely event that Android disappeared off the face of the planet, I’d go with a Windows phone.

  • Piotr Madej

    Its quite sad people are getting all worked up over the new iPhone. They must like throwing money away on something that is so over priced

    • Dwinbush2

      I had the iPhone 4 and I didn’t understand how people got worked up for the iphone 4S for the same damn phone. It really was not that big deal to waste an upgrade. If you can sell your iphone 4 and not have to pay a ton of money just for the iphone 4S then it’s a win win for you. So I hope this iphone 5 is really worth the wait or people will stick with their iphone 4 or 4S and wait for the iphone 5S.

  • Rfgenerator

    just to comment on the hope that T Mobile would reduce the price on the Samsung S3, that would be a good step as their pricing on it is pretty outrageous.  Unfortunately I don’t think it is very likely.  If I were a betting man, I’d say the new phones are going to continue to receive a smaller and smaller subsidy as T-Mobile moves to push people into the “Value” plans.  I wouldn’t have a problem with that except that if you are not going to subsidize the phone, you shouldn’t be requiring people to sign a 2 year contract.  I would really love it if our new Consumer Protection division along with the Justice Department took a much closer look at the business practices of the wireless carriers.  The fact that they can force you to sign away your rights to sue them and use their hand picked “mediator” to resolve all disputes is just another example of a system that is too heavily weighted on the side of the carriers.

    • MatthewMurawski

      You could just get monthly4G.

    • Spanky

      “if you are not going to subsidize the phone, you shouldn’t be requiring people to sign a 2 year contract”

      I’ve been saying this all along. Why would anyone in their right mind sign a 2-year contract without an incentive?

      • Jason

        The incentive is a cheaper bill. Yes, prepaid is cheap too. Yes, you pay full cost for phone with the value plan. As a consumer you have choices and don’t have to do anything you don’t want. Part of the deal T-Mobile offers is with a 2 year contract. You don’t want a contract? Then don’t sign up for one!

        • Spanky

          As I’ve stated before, there is no incentive (a cheaper bill is not an incentive). As such, a two year contract on a Value Plan is not a good deal. I wish people would stop blindly defending whatever carrier they are with.

    • Spanky

      One other thing…wireless carriers clearly state that the ETF is not a penalty, but a part of the rate plan that allows them to recoup the cost of subsidized equipment. I wonder how T-Mobile explains the ETF on Value Plans?

      • UMA_Fan

        Value Plans are subsidized plans.  Classic Plans are subsidized equipment.  

        • Spanky

          Subsidized plans? What exactly is that?

    • UMA_Fan

      With the Value Plans the PLAN is subsidized instead of the phone.  In a perfect world, you would have a third option of the classic plan WITHOUT commitment when you pay full retail for the phone.  As a consumer you are losing out if you are trying to leave T-Mobile before your contract end date but if you stay with them you are saving money over any other carrier plan with a subsidized phone.

  • guest

    First off i would just like to say i can care less about the Iphone. Had it before and like all toys, u move on to bigger and better things. Those of u that are saying that if Tmobile carried the Iphone, it would cripple Tmobile. Tmobile is the 4th largest in carrier in the US. Smaller carriers with not even a quarter of Tmobile’s customer are able to offer the Iphone and survive. How is it that smaller carriers like Bluegrass cellular or US cellular which only has 6 million subscribers compared to Tmobile’s 33 or 34 million offer the Iphone and still survie?

    • Bakerher123

      Apple hates tmobile the dont want us to have the iphone because we brought out andriod.

      • MatthewMurawski

        Where’s the logic there? That’s just like saying Samsung will stop producing parts for Apple because of the lawsuits and they don’t like Apple anymore. If it makes them money, they’ll do it. The reason has nothing to do with T-Mobile bringing out Android or Apple “hating” T-Mobile.

      • bob90210

        Apple hates T-Mobile? Apple is company; it does not have feelings. Apple’s goal is to make money, short and long term, in the best way it can. As with any other company, Apple will sell the iPhone if T-Mobile will pay the price.

        And what’s with this “we” nonsense? We are not T-Mobile. I certainly am not and unless you’re an official spokesperson of T-Mobile you shouldn’t say you’re part of T-Mobile either.

    • Bakerher123

      Apple has become big brother worse than ibm and microsoft. Virgin mobile gets it but not tmobile. Its done on purpose. I hope android wins this war. And samsung stops produceing for them.

  • krazytrixxxsta

    tmobile should really take a look at sprint. sprint bet all it chips on the iphone and where did that get them. nowhere, they are still losing customers and money.

    • Tbyrne

      Great point but if T-Mobile can get a decent deal on the iPhone, a lot of people in here would stfu, which would be a good thing.

  • Kourage2

    I really think to be honest the Samsung Galaxy III is the iPhone killer as of right now.  I have a iPhone 4 and compared to the Galaxy it’s bigger and smoother than the iPhone but I don’t like Android.  If the iPhone 5 could be bigger, have LTE, and a faster processor than the 5X chip then Apple will be back on top, but they have to invest something that has been done that amaze people. If not they both the Galaxy and iPhone are just copy cat of each other which is boring. 

    • If the SGS3 is a smoother and better running device then what is it about Android you do not like? It isn’t locked down like I-Phone, you can put live widgets on your home pages unlike the I-Phone, only apps. Android has much better specs than any I-Phone. The new google+ is far superior than Seri on the I-Phone. Google Maps, best Navigation on the market comes pre-loaded on Android where Apple chose to remove it and replace it with something that is just pathetic, so much for thinking about it’s customers first. There is just nothing on the I-Phone that can compete with the new modern Android device. Why buy something that is locked down, over priced and built by a company that IMO is on their way down that long slide. 

      • Fortrun22

         -android has for the last few years had better hardware yet still lags, crashes, freezes and gets way too hot and inferior battery life

        -google+ far superior to siri? are just making up stuff and calling them facts now?

        -apple is replacing google navigation with something that is pathetic? really? have you used it…no you havent, but since you can tell the future why dont you throw some powerball numbers my way?

        -jailbreaking is far easier, safer, and better than rooting. so where is this locked down stuff coming from?

        -why buy a iphone wanna be when you can just buy an iphone?

        PSA i am an android fan but not a fanatic, i wish dearly for android os to catch up with ios since i own both. both have their good and bad. one is not “far superior” to the other.

        get a life

        • swaq

          lag where? yeah, if you’re using some low end phones but it’s exactly what it is. LOW END. my SGS2 doesn’t experience any lag and that’s me running stock. my iPhone 4S would experience random reboots constantly and i sent it back in 3 times. battery life on my SGS2 > iPhone 4S.

          siri is better, but google now is no slouch either.

          rooting is pretty easy, and honestly. you shouldn’t do either if you don’t quite know what you’re doing.

          the SGS3, Galaxy Nexus and so on aren’t iPhone wanna be’s. the iPhone 5’s bigger screen and other things clearly show they’re following Android’s footsteps. Samsung is leading the way, and Apple is being a sore loser. 

          for the record, this is getting typed on a Mac. i can atleast manage to be objective though. 

          but Jellybean > IOS5. 

  • 21stNow

    All of these Android fanboys/fangirls are sounding exactly like Apple fanboys/fangirls.  I have used four of the major mobile OS platforms and there are legitimate reasons for liking each one.  If you have to tear down the platform that you don’t like to justify the platform of your choice, something is wrong.

    I prefer Android to any of the other platforms that I have tried, but you all are making me look bad.

  • Lcc1_

    I dont care for the iphone. However, it cant denied that other carriers that have the iphone, their sales and customers have gone up. TMo has been bleeding for quite sometime w/o the phone the most ppl want it will continue to spiral down.

    • krazytrixxxsta

      that not true for every carrier. even with the iphone sprint loss more subscribers and money. the forecast for sprint still isnt great even with the iphone. this isnt early 2010 when having the iphone on a carrier was such a big deal. things have change with android growing popularity, iphones on multiple carrier, nokia and windows phones. having an iphone on your network just doesnt cut it anymore, tmo is going to have to step their game up. is a brand new ball park out here.

      • Fortrun22

         incorrect. sprint has made money and added subscribers, their losses are coming from building out their lte network and forfeiting their investment in clearwire.

        • krazytrixxxsta

          of course they added subscribers that a given but they also lost subscribers too, there no denying that. sprint spent about 15.5 billion dollars for iphones purchases. they iphones sale figures for Q4 2011, Q1 2012, and Q2 2012 combine is nowhere near enough for them too see a profit. sprint sold about 3 million iphones so far, and we both know that the majority of those phone sold were subsidized.

  • dreamsRfree

    Nope, not everyone wants an Iphone. Android has come so far with Jellybean that Ios is no longer the smoothest nor best os.

    • Fortrun22

       whats sad is that ios is still the easiest OS to use.

      • Napster87

        not at all. wanna toggle your most used settings? its time consuming and counter intuitive. also uploading photos to their respective apps is a chore. you have to do it directly from the app rather than the gallery which on android lets you take care of third party apps natively. also, android is naturally gonna be a bit more to learn because theirs three times the amount of features. if you don’t want to mess with any of those features then it’s the same experience as an iphone.

  • T-Mobile well be receiving the iPhone in December, trust me.

    • Taron19119

      Prove it

      • I won’t prove it, a family friend is regional VP here in Bellevue and told me to hold off on the s3 because the iPhone would be coming out December (which I won’t be doing because I don’t want one)…don’t care if you believe me but I guess we will see come December!

        • Spanky

          The S3 is a better phone than the iPhone…but that’s just my opinion.

        • Taron19119

          It’s not that its that every year some one keep saying iphone is comeing and it don’t

    • Napster87

      no it’s not. also, if your family friend knew enough about phones, he definitely wouldn’t recommend the iphone 5 over their current android stable.

      • How do you know it’s not? I guess we’ll just have to wait and see…can someone please bookmark this post so we can see it in three months? Haha

  • BahamasGeek242

    Not really a big I-phone but I love my Nexus and will continue to buy the pure Google phones but T-mobile needs the I-phone to draw in more customers 

  • GuyJusta42

    engadget is showing a Tmobile sim for the next iphone………

  • Joelaxel

    hell yeah :D

  • Joelaxel

    GALAXY S3 : THE MOST AMAZING IPHONE YET xD (EPIC)

  • Kourage2

    Wait until September 12. It will be something epic. #teamiphone

    • Taron19119

      What do u mean

  • Cmedieval

    For all the android fan boys like I was once went through four androids and they all sucked up the battery in a matter of minutes. Evo 4g, galaxy s , galaxy s II and Htc amaze all had unstable platform and no service indoors in a the middle of 4g covered area switched to an iPhone charge my battery every two days four bars indoors and never had my screen freeze I’ll never go back to an android but that’s just me

    • Spanky

      T-Mobile is notorious for having less than spectacular service indoors, due to the fact that AWS bands have poor signal penetration. It has nothing to do with the phones. As far as the phones sucking up the battery in a matter of minutes, you either had a rogue app or are greatly exaggerating. I call BS on that one.

  • Patrick

    I feel bad for the clueless person who walks into a Tmobile store looking for the new iPhone 5 and some sales rep pushes a S III or something else on them with a 2yr contract

    • Android!!

      it’s their job.

  • biglbc

    Iphone sucks period… example: they arent gonna have pandora anymore.. apple said: a minute that our customers are listening to pandora, thats a minute they are not looking through itunes to buy a song
    . Lol…