Dear T-Mobile, Please Bring Multiflow To Your Network, Thank You

Nokia Siemens has announced they are showing off the next evolution in HSPA+ technology at the Mobile World Conference next week in Barcelona. Currently called “HSPA+ Multiflow,” this service allows mobile devices to connect to two cell towers simultaneously helping connectivity. Multiflow’s connection to a second tower can make sure a mobile device is connected to a second tower when signal begins fading and could also lead to greatly increased data speeds. According to Nokia Siemens, Multiflow can double HSPA+ data speeds and response times by upwards of 50%.

The demo will take place with Qualcomm, which is offering a prototype HSPA+ Multiflow-enabled USB dongle for this purpose. If the demo goes well, the company hopes to have the technology standardized by the 3GPP by the middle of this year with commercial availability for late 2013. Carriers will be happy to know that existing NSN equipment (which T-Mobile uses) will be software upgradeable, although mobile devices will need new chipsets.

T-Mobile has had similar plans as a part of their roadmap since late 2010 in the form of MIMO, better known as multi-in, multi-out. With this new technology, T-Mobile could continue it’s HSPA+ downstream speeds to around 650Mbps.

We should note that we’ve heard a bit of rumbling surround LTE in the past two weeks and given Deutsche Telekom’s investor call later this week, we’re hoping the words “T-Mobile USA” and “LTE” might arrive in the same sentence.

PhoneArena, The Verge

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  • rclubine@live.com

    So I can upgrade via software but I need to buy a new mobile, or will they offer free upgrades for 4G Mobiles?

    • joe smoe

      The software update is for the towers….no current phone supports this technology. And no…no “free” upgrade. The upgrade process would be the same as know…T-Mobile didn’t offer all 2g phone users free phones when they rolled out 3g or 3g to 4g…why would you even ask such a STUPID question?

      • StrongArm

        A few ideas come to mind.

        - Dumb as a Rock
        - Illiterate

      • http://twitter.com/WillieFDiazSF William Diaz ?

        Its not a stupid question, Id just assume this guy either doesnt know how technology works, or assumes its like AT&T when they force migrated people from TDMA to GSM and offered them SOME Free upgrades. I dont think that he understands that HSPA+ remains backward compatible, and that its NOT a new network being rolled out while another legacy one is being dismantled. The next company to dismantle a network is Verizon then Sprint when both move from CDMA to LTE. Neither is expected to fully flip off any switches for AT LEAST another 5-10 years anyway.

      • Robert

         Verizon did a similar move when they started to introduce their 4G – LTE. If I remember if you got one of their tablets? You just had to send in your device and it came back compatible. So no my question is not stupid but it is a intelligent one and cost effective one.

      • Robert

         explain the need for a new chip-set then?

        • Anonymous

          The need for a new chipset is based on the radio, power and likely the baseband.  There are bunch of awesome components built into modern SOC’s. I would encourage you to spend the time to check them out.  Very fascinating stuff.

  • http://twitter.com/Serotheo Simon Yu

    So this would mean we’d get that annoyingly slow ping cut down, yes?

    • Rudy Belova

       I have good pings here. On HSPA+ i get 60ms to 70ms normally.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJFwVOW0Nww Afolgesboxx

    I just dont think the word dongle is used enough in everyday conversaion. 

    • Rudy Belova

       True. I’ve heard them referred as “Usb thingie”, “Internet Thumb Drive” and “Thingamabob”

    • Anonymous

      I was so rushed this morning that I ran out of the house, and never gave a second thought to my dongle. Could you imagine a worse morning that that? The boss is going to kill me!

      Did that provide your dongle fix? Lol…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AWWIKW6MNPUHOC4OVSHWUDWAHM Fabio

    When is the investor call? Hopefully they do mention T-Mobile USA and LTE. T-Mobile needs to assure handset providers that they’re on the LTE bandwagon like all other carriers, in order to get the best deals.

    • Anonymous

      LTE roadmap will be released sometime in March or April I believe

  • Hh

    how about tmo bring ipv6

    • http://tmonews.com David

      They are testing it out now.

    • Anonymous

      What is ipv6?

      • Anonymous

        It’s internet protocol 6. It”s some sort of concept to speed up internet data based on adding more ip addresses I believe. Not sure exactly how it works, but I read an article on it about 6 months back & thats about what I remember of it. I’m sure google could tell you much more in depth info. P.S.- I could be wrong… Lol

      • Loueradun

         ipv6 is a new networking standard that increases the number of valid IP addresses, as the IPv4 addresses ran out recently.  There are some other differences, but it was mainly created to increase the number of connected devices. more info here:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6

    • Anonymous

      who cares about ipv6. They need to work on the network quality – coverage and speed

  • Anonymous

    This would be awesome. Even without this, I think T-Mobile could postpone LTE for a few years, but with this, they might be able to skip it altogether. If this actually works well, the only reason to go LTE would be to get the same handsets that everybody else is getting, but that’s not common in the American market anyway, so who cares?

    • Loueradun

      I agree 100%.  No reason to ever switch to LTE with technologies like MIMO available now.  My HSPA+ is usually faster than both WiMax for Sprint and LTE from Verizon, even without these improvements.

      • Anonymous

        We still don’t know how this will work though, we can be hopeful all we want but until this tech delivers than it’s just like us holding our breath.

        T-Mobile may never need to switch because it’s possible that their current infastructure might keep them stable for years to come.  They don’t have anywhere near the customer base as the big 2 so it’s much more reasonable to go with LTE for them.  However, T-mobile should go with LTE eventually just so they don’t miss the handset boat in the future.

        Also another thing to remember is that AT&T can easily jump all over this if it works as well as people hope and also boost their performance … and they already have LTE rolling out too.  For that reason i would like to see tmo do more to compete in the tech side of things if they can.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AWWIKW6MNPUHOC4OVSHWUDWAHM Fabio

    When will T-Mobile USA report it’s 2011 fourth quarter results? The other big three have already done so.

    • http://tmonews.com David

      Thursday. They have to wait for DT to report, that’s why they don’t do it in the same general timeframe.

      • Anonymous

        Those silly Europeans!!

  • Anonymous

    Can’t wait…it’ll be very fitting for the Galaxy S II and/or the Amaze. The two best and fastest phones yet along with HSPA+ Multiflow will do even bigger things.

    • http://twitter.com/WillieFDiazSF William Diaz ?

      Except in order to take advantage of the MultiFlow technology, new chipsets in new devices needs to be in place. Meaning, no current device will be able to talk to two towers simultaneously for voice and/or data. Galaxy S II and Amaze can take advantage however of MIMO (Multiple-In Multiple-Out) techniques, which increase speed.

  • http://twitter.com/WorkBuddyJohn John Zanatta

    Am I the only one who doesn’t think I need faster data speeds? In our current setup with throttled data, all this does is speed up the arrival of my throttle day. Yes, fast data is great, but currently I can stream about anything without hicups. Unless they’re making higher data caps, I don’t see this as beneficial.

    Otherwise, I’m all for the improved connections. I could stand a stronger signal whenever possible.

    • http://twitter.com/WillieFDiazSF William Diaz ?

      HSPA+ is evolving, so adding anything to it will only benefit the customer. Yes, you MAY be able to blow through data faster though the higher speeds..BUT…if you are able to access the information you are looking for faster, then get off the network, you can actually spend less time with your phone searching all day long. Yes, I know it doesnt go by time, your data allotment, but if you know you can access data faster, youre less likely to be constantly grabbing your phone all day long like we currently are.
      Take Siri for instance. Everyone going over data NOW is only because they are able to search faster… Once they realize “I can look up anything faster, I dont need to always be on my phone all day” people start to have regular conversations and use the phone as a complimentary tool rather than use it up the wazoo like we all do now. My phone is my second computer really.

      Aside from that, being connected to a faster network via HSPA+ thats evolving is beneficial, especially when your customer base, like T-Mobile’s is rather small. It means that the upgrade to HSPA+Multiflow is cheaper for double the speed, half the latency and better capacity and lowered dropped calls for less than an upgrade to LTE could be. What does that mean? T-Mobile can offer bigger data packages, possibly unlimited for less. The customer needs to take advantage of this by purchasing new hardware capable of the new network standards.

      T-Mobile definitely has the spectrum in PCS and AWS to do this, and they definitely have a solid network for this as well, they just need to jump on it and start figuring it all out. Its about time T-Mobile introduce HSPA+84, MIMO, Multiflow, etc.

  • http://twitter.com/timmyjoe42 Timothy J. Bennett

    I wonder what this does to battery life.

  • Nearmsp

     The reason Apple did not go for 4G was due to concerns on battery life. So with this new technology, 
    what will be affect on battery life? It is barely a day on 4G on SGS2.

    • Bgale14

      Oh really? Is that why? Where did u get that info? FALSE!

      • Anonymous

        that is one of the reasons. 

      • Bratty

        Nearmsp is right.

      • Anonymous

        read the reports.

        LTE was nixed for the iPhone 4 due to battery life issues, and because an LTE chip would have made the iPhone 4 thicker. Look at how fat the Verizon Thunderbolt is with an LTE chip from early 2011.

      • Loueradun

        Perhaps… the real underlying issue is that they wanted to use their own SoC.  There are plenty of SoC’s that will support LTE, but Apple’s chip does not.  This means they would have to add another chip for LTE, or redesign their current SoC (of course this doesn’t happen overnight, and they were already rushing to get a dual core in as quick as possible to catch up with the Androids).  I would assume their next devices will come with LTE after they have fully integrated it into their SoC, as it will be much more power efficient.

      • Anonymous

        False?? lol

        He’s actually correct!  

  • Anonymous

    Faster….. Go faster. Show LTE he’s a preemie.

  • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

    This is great, but I’m really only more interested in this if the data speed caps increase for similar pricing along w/ the technology upgrade, other than that, it seems to be of no benefit to me. What will I do w/ this technology, but 2GB’s of data @ high speed, what will I do with 5GB of this? It can only do so much, especially considering those higher speeds are really for stuff like streaming, & downloading files which take up a lot of data.

    • jon

      Agree with this totally. The great thing is t-mobile is still around to hopefully force this very issue. Without tmobile as a disruptive player, verizon and at at&t would be able to do or not do as they please. I am spoiled since my wife is an employee. I have no need to watch my data use. What i hope is that tmobile continues to harness hspa+ and it’s evolution. And on the backside, can push data caps to a higher limit since they arent trying to build out LTE in the immediate future. Passing savings along to its customers is one way tmob can turn this thing around.

      • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

         I completely agree, that would be so nice. I just hope it’s possible because even Home High Speed Internet is capped. Which I think is beyond ridiculous. I mean I think if it’s gonna be capped, at least be reasonable. When you think of paying the same price of $25 to $30′s of unlimited to something like 5GB’s, it makes no sense. Unlimited it wayyyy beyond that, so it’s like what? & now 2GB’s is being pushed as the premiere data plan. I think it should be at least $5GB at the price of 2GB’s we have now, & so on & so forth.

        • Dominique

           They already have the lowest data plans in the industry, so there’s absolutely no rush for them to make it cheaper.  The 2GB plan with Verizon is $30 and 3GB for $30 on AT&T.  If you want 5GB then you have to pay $50 a month.  T-mobile is under no pressure for pricing in this department

        • jon

          Youre missing the point. This isnt about who is cheaper/cheapest. Its touting speed when you have caps. There is no point to brag about speed when that speed is throttled at 2GB or 5GB. The caps need to change so that people can use the device the way it was intended. Google and Apple are making a huge push for their cloud services. Google even killed the 32GB model of the galaxy nexus. Why? Because they want you to store your content on their servers…which obviously forces you to stream that content to your device over a moble network. The point here is, sure I might be able to stream a high quality video/ lossless audio because of the uber fast network. But after streaming that movie or a handful of songs I just hit my cap for my billing cycle..

        • Anonymous

          so upgrade to the 10GB while still in your billing cycle then.

          How many people out of millions of customers go over 10GB in a month? My guess is not many. If they aren’t offering plans above 10GB that means that probably less than 5% of customers go over that. Though I’d guess it’s probably like 1% maybe

          WHen you see Tmo release a 15GB or 20GB data plan then you know consumption on average in the customer base has gone up and is at a point where it’s not some temporary fluke.

          The bean counters aren’t stupid, they’re watching and working the data plans. If they feel there’s a buck to be made you can be there will be plans with higher data caps

        • jon

          I respectfullly disagree. I use myself as an example because I have zero constraints on data. I just looked at my data usage for last month. 5GB used and that is with zero used on Google Music. (I just cant give up the ipod) and unusually low use of netflix.( keeps the kid occupied) I also did not use gps because of my garmin nuvi. Now, if I had used my galaxy nexus the way it was intended (an all-in-one device…navi, email, netflix, you tube, google music, browser) I would easily blow past 10GB. I am quite lucky my wife works for tmob or I’d probably be using a nokia 3390..lol.
          People are constraining themselves because of the caps; not because they simply dont use ‘that much’ data.

        • jon

          Wow. I totally forgot data intensive apps like my directv nfl sunday ticket and skype. So, during football season I might aproach 15GB-20GB. Hope the wifey has a long career to feed my habit!

        • Loueradun

           Jon makes a pretty good point.  The data plans restrict users from fully using their devices.  Granted, its probably not that often that I would watch a full length show/movie on my phone, but I have neglected to do so because I know my data has a cap, and I’m usually within 10-20% of it by the end of the month.  This is from just surfing the web and listening to Pandora whenever I’m out of the house (had 3.5 GB of data usage from Pandora last month).

          I think that the carriers realized that if they didn’t have a cap, everyone would use their phone to their fullest capabilities, and it would destroy their networks, hence the data caps in place now.  Remember that when all these devices were slow, the unlimited plans were actually unlimited!

        • Anonymous

          Explain that second paragraph to @DtheArtist:disqus  please.

        • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

          You don’t have to explain anything to me, read the rest of the paragraph’s. It is “you”, you & your opinion, it’s still an opinion that came from you, which you typed. A great percentage of people use “2GB’s” because of the restrictions, & also the price. It’s not necessarily because it’s what they’ll use. You also don’t have to beg anyone to explain it to me, it’s really not that serious. At the end of the day, you stay happy with the restrictions of high-speed 4G, I however feel differently. That is all.

        • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

           omg, yes, that’s what I was saying. I don’t barely use “2GB’s” because that’s what I naturally use or want to, it’s because it’s what I have to do because I know I have limits.

        • Anonymous

          I really don’t understand you guys’ argument about raising the  speed caps.  The VAST majority of people (like myself) use less than the 2GB of allotted full speed data and are perfectly happy with blistering fast speeds for the amount of data they actually consume.

          I understand that some of us geeks surpass the 2GB/5GB but there are way more people to brag about T-Mobile’s “4G” speeds than there are people to complain about being slowed down(and not incur overages or actually hit a data wall).

          What was it? 2% of people use more than 2GB?  I would HATE to be on VZW and have to need more than 2GB of data. 

        • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

          Well once again, that’s you… I’ve also heard people complain 2GB’s is too little. I also use less than 2GB’s, but only because I know if I use more my speeds will be capped tremendously. I don’t like the feelings of restricting myself, or feeling like I have to watch my data usage. Also looking @ every data activity on my phone like “Am I using too much?”; this causes me to not use my phone for what it’s worth. Everyone is gonna have a difference in opinion. Maybe if you read all of “us guys” comments & didn’t understand, maybe it’s not for or meant for you to understand.

        • Anonymous

          You say “that’s you” , the carriers call me one of the 98% of their data subscribers who (LIKE YOU) do not use more than 2GB of data.  

          Would you guys prefer that all the carriers offer free tethering and 100% non restricted data so that the top 2% can grossly misuse the service and make things worse for the majority? 

          What cracks me up is that you nickel and dime your data plan so that you don’t get slowed down when you could just spend an extra $10 a month and more than DOUBLE your allowed amount and pretty much not have to worry about that at all. 

        • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

           I couldn’t have said it better myself.

    • Anonymous

      I’m going to throw a wild guess out there and say if a large number of users started signing up for the 10GB plan and used it before their month was up I wouldn’t be surprised to see T-Mobile offering higher data tiers.

      • Anonymous

        it might happen, as Tmo is pushing video and TV watching over its network. Doubt it would be any time soon, there’s only a small percent of people who use a lot of data in a given month

      • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

         Hmm… maybe. Hopefully really.

    • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

      Or at least, 4G speed for first 2 or 5GB then 3G speed rest of the month.
      None of that 2G crap, what is this? 1999?

      • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

        I love that idea. I always thought why wouldn’t they just pick up 4G speeds for the 1st part of the actual cap part, then after it’s capped it’s 3G speeds like when we 1st got UMTS (I remember speeds of like 1.6 Mbps download). I remember those speeds when I 1st got my MyTouch 3G. Like why go from 4G all the way to 2G? That makes no sense.

        • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

          If only I have 39 Billions….I would make it come true….LOL

      • Jcj1

        the phone cannot distinguish between 3G/4G as are the same network type, so your plan cannot work.

        • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

          Why not, I see “H” icon on my phone and T-mo can limit my speed to 120kbps.
          I have the $2/day Unlimited talk/text/2G web. (For extra mins/web when my postpaid account is not enough, or on days I need to make long calls)

          So just give users full speed within the 2 or 5GB, then limit the speed to what a 3G phone would get….no?

    • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

       I’m not saying make it unlimited again necessarily, I’m just saying make it realistic for the services & features for these high-end smartphones. Like Google Music, YouTube, Pandora, etc. etc… Sure, I have WiFi at home, but sometimes I got out where I’m out of WiFi range. & I feel like some people pay about a comparable price to high-speed internet at home. I pay $20 for high speed internet with AT&T at home. & my cap is 150GB’s (it’s supposed to be $30, but because my granny is a AT&T retiree it’s cheaper). So, I just feel like why go from “Unlimited to 5GB’s” (because that’s about the price range is used to be $25-$30 for unlimited). Make it something like 50GB for that price, that would be reasonable, or at least 10GB. I personally went to Chicago & sat in the store playing with a tablet to contact my friends back at home, & watched how many people complained about the data speed caps, even my bff has been calling me complaining about it.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JVF3MJBM475CL5GPVZOJ7YHFRY Nemy

    I don’t know the actual %’s, but I believe most of TMO’s 4G Network is based on Ericsson RAN equipment, with NSN having a small %.  I know of only 4 NSN Markets in the West (out of 24 total), and none are in CA.
    Unless Ericsson can develop a similar solution, I don’t know if the NSN solution will come to a fruition.
    And I seriously doubt NSN will give the RAN software upgrade for free.

    • Anonymous

      You are exactly wrong. MOST of our 3G/4G networks are NSN. Even in markets that used Ericsson for 2G. And what you are missing is that once the TECH is finalized it will be available to all vendors that are a part of the GSM alliance and the MWC and the 3GPPP. We have HSPA+ 42 in NSN markets, Ericsson, and Nortel markets. There is no reason it will not work across the entire network. 

  • Youngt82

     I know for a fact T-Mobile USA will get LTE this year because like seriously it would be soooo DUMB if they dont. Yupp lol

  • Anonymous

    So what is T-Mobile actually doing this year? The news is slow. :(

    • Anonymous

      Yeah it’s like the industry has been on edge WAITING to see what T-Mobile’s plan is ever since the merger fell apart in December.  It’s disappointing it seems like T-Mobile and Deutsche Telekom they never planned for this eventuality despite all the opposition in the months leading up to December.

    • Anonymous

      We’ll see what they will reveal at Mobile World Congress. The LTE roadmap will be unveiled sometime around March supposedly

  • Scarfacemario

    This sounds great I just hope they release either hspa+84,mimo, multiflow, or lte soon enough to really crush or finally be known as a huge threat to the others

  • Anonymous

    Tmobile is on track to have one of THE best networks out there…. Imagine LTE  backed up with HSPA+650.  Meanwhile Verizon and Sprint will have LTE/CDMA. 

  • Anonymous

    on a g2x non-42 mbps phone? do you live INSIDE OF A CELLPHONE TOWER? (ps i’m currently upgrading to cm9 on my g2x thanks for the inspiration)

    • Anonymous

      No problem. I’ve never had any problems with service where I live. There was a day where the tower by my apartment was out & so was my ISP. I was going slightly insane. AFAIK, the t-mobile tower is about a mile away from me.

    • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

      Doesn’t have to be a 42mbps phone to have that kinda spped, I’m on a 3G phone (Euro/Asia HTC sensation) running at best 6mbps down. @ So Cal.

      • Anonymous

        Wich sensation? XE or XL? And it actually supports Tmo’s 1700?

        • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

          Just the normal Euro/Asia Sensation 710e
          And yes, it has T-mo’s 3G bands.
           

  • Theman

    Eh, I’m sure Europe will get it but doubt the U.S. is een on the radar

    • Anonymous

      why do you say that?

      • Anonymous

        Because ppl love to bash Tmo, but wont leave for anyone else because they cant afford it. For some reason they all seem to gather here! David can we please get a thumbs down button%

      • Theman

        I say this because the announcement was made in Barcelona. If this was meant for the U.S. don’t you think they would have mentioned something at CES in Vegas this year?

        • J-Hop2o6

           MWC focuses more on ‘MOBILE’ devices and their networks. CES is a mix of techs. Showing it off at MWC will have more exposure and focus.

  • http://twitter.com/jamesdax James Matthews

    Dear T-Mobile, Please bring the HTC Titan, Titan II, Samsung Focus S, and/or the Nokia Lumia 900 to your network.  Thank you.

  • Anonymous

    This seems likeit could be a practical choice for Tmo. There have to be less expenseive & still practical options besides the “Great” LTE. I’ve said before that I don’t feel like I need LTE & I’m pleased with Tmo’s +42. I’m a mobile gadget junkie & their network, as it stands, always meets my needs. LTE speeds really aren’t needed & in my opinion are an unnessecary drain on much needed battery life. I’m always for bigger & faster, but until we see more devices with batteries like Moto’s Razr Maxx, then I’m currently pleased with my battery life vs. network speed & I wouldn’t trade it. I do understand the reasoning behind Tmo needing to do something to keep up w/ the other major carriers. When Tmo does venture into LTE or whatever solution they decide on for their super high speed network, they are going to be a force to be contended with if their pricing stays where it is. I would say they have already become the United States most premier pre-paid carrier. Add LTE into that equation & why would so many ppl continue to pay the competitor’s premium price? I have 19 or 20 months left on the longest contract of all my lines & we will be switching them one by one to pre-paid. I’m glad Tmo has such a premium experience w/ a pre-paid option, & the deal is going to only be sweeter as they move toward a super high speed network. I have faith in you T-Mobile!

    • J-Hop2o6

       The reason LTE was a battery hog was because LTE wasn’t integrated on the same chip with the other cell radios. It was an extra chip in the phone which caused the extra drain, plus some phones didn’t have a switch to turn off LTE when not in use/not needed. Now the upcoming chips (eg. Qualcomm S4) has integrated LTE with all the other cell radios, which means with won’t drain the battery as it did with the previous generation chips.

      • http://www.facebook.com/TzonedaDon Terence MakeyaFacefalloff Gent

        While that may be true, higher data throughput almost always leads to higher battery drain. There are very few exceptions to this; heck, you’ll find its true on a laptop as well.

  • Msfunn1

    Samsung Galaxy Note!!!!

  • Jon

    This sounds great! But concerns I have are the following: would Tmobile increase data plan rates because connecting to two towers would mean you are most likely going to use twice as much data. And the second is battery life wouldn’t it be impacted because of the dual signals? I am no tech expert but this is just logistic issues that I believe may have an impact on the subscribers.

    • Anonymous

      How are you going to use twice as much data? If you use the phone the same you should use the same data, you’ll just get it twice as fast. We really need to better teaching math in this country. 

      • Jon

        Simple because if the speeds are improved. People will want to use more data. It doesn’t take a genius to know that…. you improve the network it becomes more reliable then it is in demand people will flock to it. Look at Verizon. It’s funny you speak about improving math. How about you improve your grammar. How does your foot taste?

        • Anonymous

          Touche sir. Touche!!! LOL

  • BigMixxx

    You know….

    I read the article and watched the video yesterday, and it had T-mobile’s name all over it.  Actually had more AT&T’s name on it than T mobile. This, not only, enhances capability, but reduces the need for a larger tower presence, especially on the outskirts of coverage.  This also makes more efficient use of current infrastructure 3g infrastructure, something the death star really needs (as they say).

    This seems to handle the question of constant speed vs available bandwidth. It also reads like an offsetting technology, something that should be used to augment primary coverage vs. a change in technology.

    @DtheArtist:disqus  said it best, ‘address the data caps’ by beating the bigger folks, if this technology is in the t mobile roadmap…

    • Anonymous

      It is not really going to improve coverage. Coverage will stay the same unless they build a new site. 

      • BigMixxx

        I did say coverage didnt I, my bad…

  • Mike Herness

    The goverment needs to regulate the cell phone companies data packages for example verizon I wouldn’t mind paying $50 or $60 for Data if the cap was 30 GB or more but $50 for 5GB is a  rip off I pay $29.99 for 12 months for comcast internet for 20 MBPS and I have a 250GB cap a few times I used 300GB cause I was using the internet heavily due to not having cable tv for awhilw and did comcast slow down my speed or charge me extra nope the cell phone industry is the biggest rip off .

    • Dfirrballwow

      Really? The government? I really???? You are for real???? The government??? What has the government done well? Think about it my friends… I for one would like for them to get out of my life even more..

      • Targthy

        Government is great at war.

      • IdiotLibertarian

        If you don’t like free market “capitalist” Amurrrrrrica or socialist commie China, then move to the fuckin ocean where there is no government.

    • Anonymous

      You sir are obviously a product of today’s public schools and didn’t have parents to fill in the gaps. You want the government to tell a private business what they can charge for their services? If you don’t want a cap then you should take your business to Sprint. That’s called competition in the free market. What you want is what Communist China has.

      Also, on an unrelated note going back to education, you should really learn how to use punctuation. I can’t tell where one sentence ends and the next begins. 

      • Targthy

        What a dumb ass. China isn’t even communist anymore.

        • Anonymous

          Really? Wow. That’s funny. I guess they missed the memo when the became not communist. I guess Cuba isn’t communist either and North Korea, and North Vietnam. Read a book buddy. China is very much a communist country. But that is besides the point. my point was that our government does not have the authority to do what he is suggesting be cause we live in a Republic that has a constitution limiting their powers and a free market in which competition rules the day not the government telling us what our prices should be. 

      • IdiotLibertarian

        If you don’t want public education, move to Antarctica where they don’t have any.

        • Anonymous

          I never said I didn’t want public schools. I merely implied that they are broken.

  • Anonymous

    I wonder if this will require more power for the radios to maintain concurrent connections.  I’m sure the trick is predominantly software but this is very interesting none the less.

    Also, just to add I believe Qualcomm did something like this for CDMA-based tech years ago but it just never caught on so the idea is not new.  However, I think this would be helpful as we are on the verge of a spectral crunch.  I’m sure tmo and att will be all over this in the near future.

    • Ogden Wernstrom

      No no no. Not 5G, it’s two 4G connections! 4G + 4G = 8G!!!! Learn to market :P

      T-Mobile. America’s only 8G network

      • Anonymous

        Omg you are right!! I hadn’t thought of that. I just puked in my mouth!!

        • Jcj1

          works in parallel, sorry to burst your bubble. as stated it balances the connection, not add to it

        • Anonymous

          There was no bubble to burst, it was a learning experience.

    • Anonymous

      Actually your WCDMA PHONE already talks to multiple towers at once. Every WCDMA handset has a “Rake Receiver” in it. This is an array of 5 antennas that can “talk” to 5 different cells at the same time so when you lose connectivity to one you don’t drop the call. This is what Nokia is taking advantage of with multiflow. They are taking a connection that already exists and pushing an active data connection over it. Pretty cool if you ask me. 

      • Anonymous

        Right but the overall throughput is much different I believe. Between talking and sending large packets is a pretty big difference especially for lasting periods of time.

  • Get real

    Lol! I live wthin 50 miles of St.Louis MO and T-mobile only offers gprs. I don’t understand why they are even concerned with rediculous data speeds when the majority of their customers outside of major cities can’t even stream music. This is all about bragging rights and nothing more.

    • Guest

      You do realize that MOST tmobile customers live in the city or around it and not an hour outside of town practically in the sticks, right? Better off with an more rural local carrier or one of the big boys. Sorry…

    • Guest

      what is “rediculous” is that you spelled “ridiculous” with an “e” instead of an “i”

  • Rendell67

    Dnt need battery hoging lte hspa42 is fine

    • J-Hop2o6

       That’s last gen LTE chips fault, not LTE. Upcoming next gen chips will have LTE integrated (instead of separate) on the same chip with the rest of the cell radios, which means it won’t have unnecessary battery drain.