T-Mobile Clarifies Statements Regarding Future iPhone Chipsets

T-Mobile issued a statement today clarifying comments made by T-Mobile Chief Technology Officer, Neville Ray regarding the evolution of chipsets in the iPhone. Ray was previously quoted during an interview at CES as saying, “The next chipset will support AWS. The challenge that existed in the past will go away.” His comments led many, including us, to believe that the next version of the iPhone, rumored to be the iPhone 5 would support AWS frequencies. T-Mobile’s statement hopes to clarify that Ray has no inside look at the upcoming Apple iPhone chipset roadmap and was speaking about the general possibility Apple could choose to use a chip that would support T-Mobile frequencies.

Clarification from T-Mobile Regarding iPhone: Comments made by T-Mobile’s CTO, Neville Ray, regarding the evolution of chipsets to include additional bands were misconstrued. Mr. Ray was speaking generally to chipset advancements available to all phone manufacturers. T-Mobile has no knowledge of Apple’s product roadmap and our position on the iPhone has not changed.

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  • Tony Allen

    Well T-Mo WAS going to get an iPhone, but he just spoiled that for everyone xD

    • Anonymous

      I’m not everyone. I don’t want an iPhone.

      • Anonymous

        T-Mobile getting the iPhone will go a long way to stabilizing it’s churn.

        • Anonymous

          At least some people get it. :) I love Android but it is not enough to sustain them no matter how high-end the phones they get are. (And we all know they won’t all be high-end.)

      • Tmoguy1

        Iphone would really have to step up to get me back. Bigger screen, better specs, expandible memory. Oh and they should also stop the whole slave labor thing. I mean check the tab on top of the screen that says todaysiphone and read the article about all the poor employees who commited suicide because they worked in sweat shops to provide the world with Iphones and other great Apple products.

  • Cashman

    If T-Mobile doesn’t get the iphone, they’ll continue to lose subscribers, it’s as simple as that………..Apple does a great job of advertising their products and making people believe that they’re the 1st to have certain things like Siri (RIM and Andriod devices had similar applications way before Siri) and video chat. People that know about phones know better, but the vast majority of the US are clueless

    • Tmoguy1

      Very Well Said.

    • Anonymous

      well said, in ref to “Apple does a great job of advertising their products and making people believe that they’re the 1st to have certain things like Siri (RIM and Andriod devices had similar applications way before Siri) and video chat. People that know about phones know better, but the vast majority of the US are clueless”

    • Guest911

      If you and the two geniuses that agree with you are any indication, them yes, most people are clueless. Android has never had AI. Period. Android has voice commands.

  • http://twitter.com/SocalFrank1 Frank Alvarez

    This smells like an Apple smackdown trying to kill rumors, true or not.

    • Mike T

      completely agree

      • BigMixxx

        Me too…came out and clarified that statement REALLY fast.

  • Dave Macias

    T-Mobile USA: well i was going to get the iPhone until i took an arrow to AWS.

  • http://www.twitter.com/mrjlwilliams J. Williams

    lol

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AWWIKW6MNPUHOC4OVSHWUDWAHM Fabio

    Whoa!! Sounds like Apple got mad at T-Mobile’s CTO Ray and asked T-Mobile to “clarify” his statements! This only further confirms that Apple IS planning to use AWS chip on their next iPhone and possibly already has a deal in place with T-Mobile USA. Honestly if Apple wants to fully compete in the smartphone market they must have their product to be as available to consumers as it can be. That means that it MUST be on all four national carriers.

    Not having the iPhone available on T-Mobile USA means that Apple is losing out, on about 33 million T-Mobile customers and 33 million is a lot. They know it, they are going to give T-Mobile the iPhone this year. It’s a given!

    • Anonymous

      Unfortunately unlike Verizon who had 90 something million customers before they had the iPhone, T-Mobile has no such leverage.  None what so ever.  It’s kind of like Apple’s rules or nothing.  Consumer perception is that T-Mobile is a weaker network even though that’s further from the truth.  No one knows what’s going on behind the scenes though.  The single biggest threat the concept of a T-Mobile iPhone is to at&t.  If the iPhone 4s with all it’s same harware supported T-Mobile’s AWS 3G/4G HSPA+ T-Mobile would then have the fastest iPhone and the best coverage of the fastest iPhone data speeds.  At&t knows this, they just don’t want mainstream consumers to.  Apple still has a relationship to maintain with at&t. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AWWIKW6MNPUHOC4OVSHWUDWAHM Fabio

        Which is why AT&T tried to acquire T-Mobile, and of course they made Apple think that the T-Mobile purchase was going to be a done deal. Either way, what AT&T wanted was to delay the T-Mobile iPhone release until they had LTE networks up and running. And they were willing to pay DT that breakup fee in order to make this happen.

      • J-Hop2o6

        Tmo has no leverage? C-Spire carries the iPhone, and they’re worse than TMo in subscriber count and native towers.. But with the next gen chips coming up that iPhone will use should have AWS included also (along with LTE on the same die).

    • Anonymous

      The iPhone 4S uses the Qualcomm MDM6600 chip which supports T-Mobile’s frequencies.

      Apple just chose to not support 1700MHz.

    • Dpro

      I would have to agree with the first part of your statement. In fact before the Iphone was available on Verizon there were quite a few rumors floating that kept on getting batted down. That preceded its actual release, and in the end were actually accurate.

      On the second half of your first paragraph though you have it all wrong. Apple does not need T Mobile, T Mobile needs Apple.  Apple is selling Iphone 4S’s like gangbusters. They have had a steady and constant demand for it since it came out.  A demand so strong they can barely  keep them in stock.

      Not having an Iphone on T Mobile means T Mobile is losing out. It would  literally wipe out churn in my opinion as so many people would sign up as alternative to AT&T and Sprint.
      Not to mention the users on T Mobile that would not leave due to either A: using an Iphone currently on T Mobile and tired of edge speeds. Or B: Using an older Iphone on T Mobile already and wanting to upgrade to the latest version and stick with T Mobile.

      In a sense the ball is in T Mobiles court. Apple is willing if T Mobile is willing. So far T Mobile has failed in the playing it conservative segment with not wanting to spend money to make things happen. This has been DT”s failure all along.
      Its time for them to step up and play ball invest in the company to grow it. LOL Ya I know last statement is probably wishful thinking, though it is true.

      I hope it happens, It would make T Mobile better. There is plenty of room in this world for IOS and Android and its time for the Android fan boys to just stop trying rip on Apple. Android stays competitive because of IOS and vice versa.

      • BigMixxx

        Now…T mobile has OPENLY said, the ball is in Apple court to deliver a device compatible with their networks (T mobile said some other stuff about apple that did not carry well) but I completely agree…
        Not having T mobile means T mobile is losing…..Churn….wipe(d) out.

        so true.

        • Littlesis1774

          The way T-mobile acts in their commercials lets people think otherwise

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AWWIKW6MNPUHOC4OVSHWUDWAHM Fabio

        I disagree. The simple fact that iPhone 4S is selling like gangbusters, on those only 3 supported major carriers, only make them regret not releasing a T-Mobile iPhone 4S. IMO, T-Mobile has 33 million customers, even if it’s the fourth place carrier in terms of popularity, it still is a major player. If Apple wants to take out Android so badly, (and they do) then they will want to release a T-Mobile iPhone in order to compete with them on an even field. Now I could be wrong, but just logically I assume that they want to have their iPhone available as much as they can.

        Also, I’m not sure but I believe android phones are available on all
        major carriers, so Apple having the iPhone on all major carriers makes
        it on an even level playing field with android. Apple is a business and if the next chip contains AWS then they will want to make a deal with T-Mobile, they approached C-Spire and even cellular south who are waaaay smaller than T-Mobile.

    • Littlesis1774

      If they had to clarify their statements then Apple is planning to AWS chip and planning on giving to T-mobile. My hope for a T-mobile iphone has rekindle since reading the article. I hope Apple is trying to get things to stay under wraps since they themselves have not confirmed iphone 5 yet.

  • http://twitter.com/AquarianLogic Jeff Perkins

    well I want an iPhone. 

    • Anonymous

      You can buy one unlocked directly from Apple today to use on T-Mobile.

      You’ll just be limited to EDGE data speeds which is no big deal.

      • http://twitter.com/AquarianLogic Jeff Perkins

        True, but I’d much rather prefer a network branded phone. I’ve had an unlocked phone before. 

        • Kevychevy795

          I agree too, and its not a pleasant experience. Factory unlocked is too expensive and normal unlocked is not that good. I hate how you can’t update to new software until there is a jailbreak. I also hate that stupid edge. If they had a 3G/4G iPhone 5 on T-Mobile I would be the first one in line to get it! :D

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AWWIKW6MNPUHOC4OVSHWUDWAHM Fabio

          Apple never brands their iPhones. All iPhones only have the Apple logo and nothing else. No carrier brand name on the phone.

      • Anonymous

        MacRat said: ”
        You’ll just be limited to EDGE data speeds which is no big deal.”
        lol, yeah if you are a cheap sheep

    • Anonymous

      Yea, because each release of the iphone doesnt do the same thing as the last iphone… Your point about it being the same phone over and over is a odd point… each android device brings better hardware, and often os refinements.

      • Tmoguy1

        Well said! Also if he wants a change of pace, try the new windows phone. It isn’t the old windows system from years ago. Its totally new concept and very close to iphone. I mean, it has no expandable memory like Iphone, smaller screen like iphone, can’t remove radar battery like iphone, closed system with very little customization, Just like iphone; Only Zune instead of itunes.  But honestly the Widows phone 7 is very similar, its a very easy to use simple device with a great flow to it, unfortunaetly they copied all apple’s shortcomings for some reason.

        • Littlesis1774

          I personally can’t stand windows phones. I had a rotten experience with my HD2 and will never again buy windows phone. I need variety

        • BGC

          HD2 was windows mobile not windows phone.  They are very different.  And to below, I think you are confusing windows phone with windows mobile as well.  Windows phone is far from glitchy and has great battery life due to it using a single core.

        • http://twitter.com/AquarianLogic Jeff Perkins

          I wouldn’t want a Windows Phone. Those phones are known to be glitchy and die out on you. Horrible choice. 

    • Anonymous

      Wow, you just made a lot of sense. The iPhone4s is the same phone as the 1st gen iPhone, only faster, look at the T-Mobile G1, then look at the Galaxy Nexus or the White Galaxy S2 from T-Mobile, HUGE difference, but anyway, you probably have a Motorola cliq or something, dummy, Android will not miss you, you will miss Android after 2 months or less with the iPhone, trust me. And some people talking about WP7? Give me a break.

      • http://twitter.com/AquarianLogic Jeff Perkins

        Oh take a seat, I never said I didn’t like Android, I just feel it’s tired. You can go suck a railroad spike now, flop bitch. 

  • Anonymous

    YAAAY!   honestly, tmo dont need the iphone.  Its an amazing well built peice of equipment…i must say.  But I dont like it, from the first day it came out.    tmo should focus on improving there 4g/hspa network, add the aws bands that support unlock euro phones, iphone and add some nice high end phones to their line up.  LTE is overly hyped…its an excuse to charge people more money for their plans/service and phones…my opinion.   Eventually tmo should get it, but that and the iphone should not be their focus right now

    • Anonymous

      You have not been paying attention if you do not think they need it… They do! I am willing to bet more than half the customers they lose are from the lack of it’s presence. Face the facts man.

      • Anonymous

        Why pay apple so much money to get that phone? When they can use that money to buy more spectrum to add those aws bands that suppport international unlock phones, the unlock iphones and improve an already functioning reliable 4g/hspa network; so, those international unlock phones and the unlock iphones will get true 4g speeds  Then, just maybe,  they can start thinking about getting the iphone.  I was actually thinking about leaving tmo…well, I was going to, cause there high end phone line up is weak.  Then I thought about how much money i have saved.  I if you want the iphone sprint, at&t and verizon have it. But I will tell you this, eventually you will come back to tmo, they always do.

        • Littlesis1774

          T-mobile needs to survives and order to do they need the iphone. If they pass on this iphone 5 they lose more customers

      • Joiseyeric

        yes we def need the iPhone…even tho customers don’t know why or how to use it, they just want cuz it’s a status symbol….most of them have Windows PCs, don’t even know what a Mac is…

  • Anonymous

    I do not want one personally but my girlfriend and many many people I know would consider staying with T-Mobile if they get it. People can say what they want about those who leave but I firmly believe adding the iPhone is the best decision they could make…aside from announcing an upcoming LTE network.

  • TMoFan

    T-Mobile needs a variety of smartphones including the iPhone. Sprint has it despite their terrible data speeds, and regional carrier C-Spire has it. And I find the chipset argument weak. Nokia has been putting pentaband radios in their phones for years. I think the root issue is money and the looming at&t sellout last year. Both companies need to come together and work out a deal.

  • I LOVE PHONES! :D

    So does this mean we are getting the iPhone or what? I’m lost. Is this a hint for the iPhone coming to T-Mobile this year? If it does, I will dump my T-Mobile G2 and run to the T-Mobile store to get me one of the iPhones! ;D I hope iPhone 5 will have a less fragile design cause it breaks so easily…

    • Littlesis1774

      I think it does mean that we are finally getting the iphone otherwise why would they need to clarify what they said. I mean the AWS chip is huge hint

    • Kahlayoh

      It means don’t get your hopes up!!! They actually have no knowledge of apples products roadmap. But why get an iphone?

      • Littlesis1774

        Why do you need to know

  • MUSICMANA212NYC

    WE WANT THE IPHONE AS A MATTER OF FACT THEY SHOULD BE THE FIRST TO BRING OUT A NICE CANDY APPLE RED IPHONE … LOL

  • ItsMichaelNotMike

    A Belated Christmas Tale – Why TMOUS Will NEVER Get The iPhone

    Some people in here, you’re placing the “TMOUS iPhone” on too high on a pedestal. And I think Deutsche Telekom principals agree with me.

    IMO the ONLY detriment to TMOUS in it not having the iPhone is that the
    Company does not appear a major player, now that Sprint and Verizon have
    it too. It simply looks bad: Verizon, AT&T and Sprint  have
    the iPhone, but the #4 carrier does not. But what is THAT worth? Not as much as Apple wants.

    Feelings, status and reputation aside, recall Sprint paid a huge,
    ridiculous amount of money to get the iPhone. (Sprint agreed to pay Apple a MINIMUM of $15 billion over for years to get the iPhone. Ouch!) History will interpret Sprint getting the iPhone as another bad move by Sprint (Nextel Part Deux, if you will). $15 billion to feature a phone that is also sold by your main competitors, that’s just plain stupid.

    Another reason the iPhone should not be accorded the status you give it, as I said a couple years ago (when rumors were floating about when AT&T’s exclusive would end and who might next get the iPhone) IMO there’s only so many iPhone
    users to go around. With AT&T and Verizon selling it I considered the iPhone
    “maxed out” in terms of it making a HUGE difference on an operator’s bottom line.

    These facts (and assumption ;) cause me to conclude that if TMOUS got the iPhone it
    would not matter all that much. It certainly would NOT, as some like to trumpet, “save T-Mobile,”
    put TMOUS back on the map, or make TMOUS a contender for the second
    place spot on the list of the top four U.S. operators.

    Retort: I definitely don’t believe as one TMoNews clubhouse member in here has said, “more than half the customers T-Mobile loses are from [the iPhone's] lack of presence.”  Why?

    For one thing, IF the iPhone would make that big a difference to TMOUS’
    profits, as some allude, I would think that Deutsche Telekom would have by now struck a deal with
    Apple to get it. 

    Secondly, recall that some say (and I agree) Deutsche Telekom does NOT want to invest in TMOUS for what it would take for the Company to compete in the U.S. market (DT is only willing to do that what’s required to maintain value for a sale, loot TMOUS profits to prop up ailing Deutsche Telekom, or to placate European investors). To these ends, I assume many of you observed Deutsche Telekom dispatch to Europe with all due haste AT&T’s $3 billion breakup fee.

    That being the situation, there’s no way Deutsche Telekom would make a multibillion dollar
    deal with Apple to get TMOUS the iPhone. IMO DT wisely has decided that it is NOT going to pay Apple the exorbitant sums it wants to do a deal. (See the Sprint deal.)

    Yes indeed, over the years I suspect Deutsche Telekom has penciled things out and concluded the iPhone is simply not worth what
    Apple wants for DT to get the iPhone on TMOUS shelves. Think about it folks. Let’s assume Apple wanted from Deutsche Telekom LESS THAN the $15 billion Sprint guaranteed to get the iPhone. Let’s pretend Apple said “pay us $8 billion and we have a deal.”

    Considering everything else Deutsche Telekom would have to do to maintain TMOUS’ value and/or to remain competitive in the U.S. market, do you really think Deutsche Telekom would invest all its fortunes, if you will, in getting the iPhone? I think not, especially since at the end of the day the iPhone is not going to matter all that much. (As I said before, TMOUS would be lucky if the news mentioned that the iPhone was coming to T-Mobile. As it was, few news broadcasters mentioned or discussed the iPhone going to Sprint.)

    Alas, while all my pearls of wisdom are sufficient reasons to explain why TMOUS won’t see the iPhone, there’s a more fundamental reason why it won’t be on TMOUS inventory, Deutsche Telekom is broke. Yes, sadly, Deutsche Telekom does not have the coin to do the deal, even if it wanted to. (And remember, snobby Apple does not do deals with financially unstable companies, aka “the poor” (an over simplification, I admit). 

    Disclaimer: With Jobs passing maybe the new “administration” might do
    something with Deutsche Telekom (see the prepaid iPhone commentary I
    posted).

    Bonus Disclaimer: As some know in here, I loathe the iPhone, mostly
    because Apple practices planned obsolescence. Regardless, that’s not a
    subjective opinion, it is quite easy to come up with an objective list
    of why the iPhone is an over-hyped, outdated, and over-priced cell
    phone. (We can start with the display size – that is small by 2011-12
    standards, no microSD slot, and non-user replaceable battery.)

    Have to run, will edit later. Sorry for any spelling or grammar errors. Well, not really sorry, but I do regret em.

    Before you flame… I duly note opinions will differ.

    ____________________

    Copyright © 1996-2012 Michael Mortimer, Second Chair Publications.

    • Tmoguy1

      I work in a Tmobile store. Yes, Customers cancel to get the Iphone. Yes, customers come in asking DO you have Iphone, and when we say no, they leave, before we can even show them what we do have.

      Not having Iphone in a cell phone store, is like not having the highest regraded namwe brand in a grocery store. I am not an Iphone Fan. In fact I use Android. But Working in a T-mobile USA store, I have top say it feels like we are selling generic flakes while everyone else has special K.

      Many peopel understand that other phones are as good, or even better than an Iphone, But Millions of peopel honestly think Apple is The best (period). IT would take more marketing dollars to change that than to invest in Iphone IMO. Changing the minds of millions is not easy.

      • Kahlayoh

        When it comes to laptops, i choose apple. When it comes to phones, i choose android!

      • Littlesis1774

        They plenty of people who are the sprint forum might said they will leave Sprint. They are having problems with data speeds. However according to some customers they already having problems with their data speeds prior to iphone. If T-Mobile really wants to back on the road to recovery then they do need the iphone. They have an edge over AT&T and Verizon. Both AT&T and Verizon charge you ten dollars for going over your data usages T-mobile does not and Sprint does have unlimited data but we don’t know how long it stay like that. T-mobile with the iphone will help them indeed.  

    • Anonymous

      Apple does not deal with financially unstable companies???  You have no idea what you’re talking about.  Sprint is on it’s way to near bankruptcy this year.  More than anything the reason T-Mobile doesn’t have the iPhone is because Apple would have to remake the previous versions of the iPhone for T-Mobile, something Apple wouldn’t do for T-Mobile’s 33 million customers.  They would, for Verizon.  They have 90 million customers.  That same CDMA version of the iPhone happens to work for Sprint, and any other regional provider.

      If the iPhone supported T-Mobile’s HSPA+ network today, T-Mobile could brag they have the best coverage of the fastest iPhone, all for a cheaper price…. and consumers would take notice!  It would be a huge blow ESPECIALLY to at&t.

      I don’t know with certainty (no one does) but I think at&t and Verizon put pressure on Apple NOT to release on T-Mobile until LTE versions come out.  Then differences on iPhone data performance would be negligible an Verizon and at&t wouldn’t be at risk for losing a chunk of their customer base. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AWWIKW6MNPUHOC4OVSHWUDWAHM Fabio

        Your theory makes sense, Verizon and AT&T are expanding their LTE network extremely fast. It must be in preparation to the next iPhone and T-Mobile’s HSPA++ network today.

        • Littlesis1774

          Wasn’t AT&T unstable when iphone came to them

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AWWIKW6MNPUHOC4OVSHWUDWAHM Fabio

          Yes but at that point Apple didn’t care if they were stable or not. Apple just wanted to get their product out there, on a carrier that had the more customers, and that was Verizon. Apple first approached Verizon for a deal. Verizon didn’t want to make a deal with Apple because Verizon wanted to have too much control of the iPhone and Apple wanted all the control of their device.

          So what did they do after their failed deal with Verizon? Apple went to the second largest carrier, AT&T. And you know the rest of the story. :-)

        • Littlesis1774

          If T-mobile does make a play for iphone they are done and they know it

    • Bored@Home

      It is likely, to me, that when you are Apple and you build an iPhone… you do so to support x,y,z.  So Iphone 2G – supports GSM Frequencies
      Iphone 3G/3GS – supports GSM and 3G Frequencies in Europe and US (PCS)
      all of a sudden.. hold on… we need to add a chipset for AWS special frequencies to support HSDPA/HSPA?  Well guess what, Apple would have to build a chipset.  That chipset’s investment by the company is solely for T-Mo US.  Noone else is using AWS for 3G right?  So, T-mobile goes to Apple and says we want the iPhone in the US.  Apple says no prob, but you have to pay x amount for the development so that we can make it work for you with a new chipset made just of you…. 

      Afterall, T-Mo (DT in this case) does have the Iphone in Europe.  So clearly, a deal has been made in the past and leverage does exist when you consider the customer base of DT and the pull DT may approximately 140+ million customers (larger than ATT and Sprint).

      So, Iphone no Iphone.  The bottom line is the phone would perform better on this network than the ATT, VZ, or Sprint Network.  BUT apparently… those that make things happen don’t see a value in that investment.

      People do leave for a congested poor running ATT network.  The majority of smart phones sold are Android.  

      Blah blah blah… it’s just a phone.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AWWIKW6MNPUHOC4OVSHWUDWAHM Fabio

      At some point, Apple is going to want T-Mobile to have an iPhone with deal or no deal. Because without a T-Mobile iPhone, Apple is losing out on 33 million customers. So since T-Mobile won’t accept Apple’s terms, Apple somehow have to bend to T-Mobile if they want to compete fiercely in this market.

      • Littlesis1774

        How is exactly Apple is losing out? Apple iphone is selling like hotcakes. T-mobile will be the one losing out

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AWWIKW6MNPUHOC4OVSHWUDWAHM Fabio

          Because T-Mobile has many customers that are not willing to switch to AT&T, Verizon or Sprint just to get an iPhone. The iPhone is selling like hotcakes, on THOSE carriers only. And because they are selling like hotcakes, If they had a T-Mobile iPhone then they would sell even millions more. They’re a business and they only care about making as much $$$ as possible. So they do lose out because every penny counts.

          And yes T-Mobile is losing out more than Apple. But just because Apple is losing out less than T-Mobile doesn’t mean that Apple isn’t losing out.

        • Littlesis1774

          Problem is everyone is switching from T-mobile. I will switching also but I am going to Europe in less then two months need the money. If T-mobile finally gets the iphone I will stay

        • ogopogo

          You are with the ONLY carrier that provides FREE WIFI callign back to the US when you travel to Europe. I have used it on my MyTouch4G in England and Dubai in December, and it was fantastic. NO LD/Roaming charges.

          Try that with any of the other carriers!!

        • A Guy

          Hold up….isn’t making ANY call with Wi-Fi (rather, using Wi-Fi itself) free in the first place???

  • http://twitter.com/bunky1971 Bunky

    Can anyone tell me what the iPhone can do better than a BlackBerry 99×0 or a Sensation 4G?
     or is it all perception? i play games, take pictures, videos, email, text and talk as well as tether and wifi hotspot with these devices no problem.  *disclaimer. i also have rooted the Sensation have a 2200 quadrant result, get 6M/1M speeds and can watch slideshows, listen to mp3s or even cut a movie to watch. ditto for the BlackBerry, running 7.1.0.xxx software. but none of this needs to be done for the devices to do all that. 

    • Anonymous

      The only thing I can think of is better itunes syncing… other than that not a whole lot.

      • Tmoguy1

        Agreed. Alot is just perception. But some people like the look, and it does feel like a high-end phone in your hand. The way that Apple makes one device at a time makes the whole thing seem a little more stable and single-minded. I mean the apps work well with the phone etc. Android could learn something there. I hate buying an app and then updating to teh newest software, only to have to wait for developers to update the app so it works with the new software.

        But when Iphone 3g was only 2G, I left for Android. The big screen and faster downloading of attchments and quicker web surfing won me over. Now I have a New Amaze.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/CeeGee-Borela/100000183782060 CeeGee Borela

    way to get everybody’s(well every sheep’s) hopes up for a tmo iphone

  • Anonymous

    You have to take 3g on any iphone, there’s 4g one on any network… but yea, I wouldn’t waste $700 on an unlocked phone to only get edge… BIG waste of cash no matter what device it is.

    • Tmoguy1

      But the scary part is, People do buy them unlocked, and use them on edge.

      • Anonymous

        They buy them off craigslist or ebay, I HIGHLY doubt it that people are paying $700+ for an iPhone  unless they have crazy cash, but if they have crazy cash, why would they be on T-Mobile? See where I’m going with this? So, no, people are not buying iphones from apple for $700 to use on T-Mobile for EDGE speeds, makes no sense.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AWWIKW6MNPUHOC4OVSHWUDWAHM Fabio

      IMO, I don’t find it a big waste, I can always use wifi at home and if I’m out I don’t use my cellular internet to browse Facebook and all that crap, I only use it for emergencies, because the purpose of a phone is to communicate, so I talk and text when I’m outside. And even when I’m outside, in NYC there are many many many wifi hotspots and OPEN wifi access in parks, it’s like we don’t need cellular internet.

  • http://twitter.com/CactoesGel Dean Darkblue

    What a jokester!

  • Kife0301

    So is T-mobile getting the iPhone 5 or not?

    • http://benpike.net Ben Pike

      They’ve always had it…

      • Littlesis1774

        IN EUROPE NOT TMOBILE USA

        • http://benpike.net Ben Pike

          Step 1: obtain unlocked iPhone
          Step 2: put T-Mobile SIM in it
          Step 3: ???
          Step 4: PROFIT!!!

        • Littlesis1774

          Dude it edge. I want T-mobile iphone on their network that is 3g. T-Mobile needs it regardless of android fanboys says

        • Kahlayoh

          hahaha…..I don’t think T-mobile needs it!!! It’s the t-mobile customers (ifan boys) that want’s it!! But regardless of it being edge, 3G..it’s not a huge difference!! And because it only states Edge…doesn’t mean T-mobile does’nt have it…T-mobile actually helps it’s customers setting the iphone to being able to use on it’s network! Would AT&T or sprint do that for their customers? I think not!!

  • JamesJ

    If the galaxy nexus isnt at a reasonable price for tmobile by then, then this android lover is switching to iphone (if it comes to tmobile of course…).
    Sense, moto blur, mytouch line, and touch wiz is bloat ware crap. You could say theres stock phones like the g2..but I want my updates. Its either galaxy nexus or iphone for me.

  • Cakesmalone

    Surprised the Iron Sheik has not put him in a camel clutch already for this…

  • THATSCOOL

    why worrying guys? The Iphone 6  releasing in 2014 may come to TMOBILE just wait 2 more yrs and enjoy  the best phones, AMAZE and GS2

    • Littlesis1774

      You must what T-mobile go under

  • http://markcarruthers.blogspot.com Mark Carruthers

    I used to care if T-Mobile was getting the iPhone.

  • Anonymous

    Just got my Apple unlocked iPhone 4S, and in no time am mms messaging, gmailing, synching google calendar, google voicing on TMO. I have only seen Edge thus far, but up and downloads were quite fast, seemingly as fast as 3g on my Android phones. Very interesting that it can move data like that on Edge.

    • THATSCOOL

      whats the use of  internet phones when your speed sucks? if no 4g for me i wont keep the iphone, would rather use non data phone.

    • Juan

      i just got mine yesterday how can i get to recieve the mms i can only send

  • Big titty ho

    eeh i dnt really like iphones i got the 4s on claro over here in puerto rico used it on t-mobile i only got edge put an at&t sim card got 3G cuz they also use the 850 mhz for 3G as claro only difference at&ts data network is MUCH slower no wonder people hate at&t soo much there crap. sold it on ebay for 350 got the new motorola razr the one verizon has in.the states only difference the one for claro is gsm and i couldnt be happier i <3 android. . i noticed in the states they dont have claro like we dont have verizon over here. we had verizon but claro bought them out and all verizon stores they changed the name to claro. only reason i like them is cuz they dont fill up there phones with bloat ware like at&t, sprint, t-mobile. i been to an at&t store, t-mobile and sprint and all there phones have stuff like at&t navigator, sprint has sprint navigator, t-mobile has t-mobile tv, att has the most bloatware att code scanner, att yellow pages, att radio etc.. on all there phones it must suck. … on claro theres no such thing as claro navigator or stuff like that all there phones are how they came from the factory no carrier bloatware. and all there phones are unlocked since day 1 that i bought my razr i put my
    friends t-mobile sim and only got edge and wit an att sim i got 3G no need to unlock.. so yea i luv android .

    • tx gurl in mx

      @ big tit ho waay off topic there lol BUT i agree with u americans ALWAYS get screwed over with phones. i guess in puerto rico even tho its part of the US that claro company is more open because puerto rico is part of latin america? and claro is a company from latin america? over here in mexico i live in ensenada even tho i was born in texas lol TELCEL , MOVISTAR and iusacell are the same as that claro company u talk about all 3 dont have carrier bloatware on there phones there no such thing as telcel navigator, telcel radio etc .. same thing with movistar and iusacell i know cuz i had all 3 before. also there phones are unlocked since day 1 including iphones . only reason im with telcel its cuz it has the best coverage and they get all the phones europeans get were movistar and iusacell get the same phones at&t or verizon get in the states.. like with the galaxy s2 telcel got the original version they got in europe while the other 2 got the weird looking version t-mobile got in the states. Telcel gets all the awesome sony ericsson phones they get in europe like the satio which had a 12 megapixel camera , sony idou, sony ericcson xperia arc , same wit nokia phones they got the n8 wit a 12 megapixel camera in a bunch of different colors i got the grey one and many more nokia phones . thats why i like telcel cuz they get awesome phones with no carrier bloatware and u can do wateva u want with them install all the 3rd party apps u want. look up telcel mexicos website and the att website look at the phones in both they have nothing in common .look up vodafone uk or vodafone spain they have all the same phones telcel has.

    • Melinda22

      @ big tit ho waay off topic there lol BUT i agree with u americans ALWAYS get screwed over with phones. i guess in puerto rico even tho its part of the US that claro company is more open because puerto rico is part of latin america? and claro is a company from latin america? over here in mexico i live in ensenada even tho i was born in texas lol TELCEL , MOVISTAR and iusacell are the same as that claro company u talk about all 3 dont have carrier bloatware on there phones there no such thing as telcel navigator, telcel radio etc .. same thing with movistar and iusacell i know cuz i had all 3 before. also there phones are unlocked since day 1 including iphones . only reason im with telcel its cuz it has the best coverage and they get all the phones europeans get were movistar and iusacell get the same phones at&t or verizon get in the states.. like with the galaxy s2 telcel got the original version they got in europe while the other 2 got the weird looking version t-mobile got in the states. Telcel gets all the awesome sony ericsson phones they get in europe like the satio which had a 12 megapixel camera , sony idou, sony ericcson xperia arc , same wit nokia phones they got the n8 wit a 12 megapixel camera in a bunch of different colors i got the grey one and many more nokia phones . thats why i like telcel cuz they get awesome phones with no carrier bloatware and u can do wateva u want with them install all the 3rd party apps u want. look up telcel mexicos website and the att website look at the phones in both they have nothing in common .look up vodafone uk or vodafone spain they have all the same phones telcel has.

    • Melinda22

      @ big tit ho waay off topic there lol BUT i agree with u americans ALWAYS get screwed over with phones. i guess in puerto rico even tho its part of the US that claro company is more open because puerto rico is part of latin america? and claro is a company from latin america? over here in mexico i live in ensenada even tho i was born in texas lol TELCEL , MOVISTAR and iusacell are the same as that claro company u talk about all 3 dont have carrier bloatware on there phones there no such thing as telcel navigator, telcel radio etc .. same thing with movistar and iusacell i know cuz i had all 3 before. also there phones are unlocked since day 1 including iphones . only reason im with telcel its cuz it has the best coverage and they get all the phones europeans get were movistar and iusacell get the same phones at&t or verizon get in the states.. like with the galaxy s2 telcel got the original version they got in europe while the other 2 got the weird looking version t-mobile got in the states. Telcel gets all the awesome sony ericsson phones they get in europe like the satio which had a 12 megapixel camera , sony idou, sony ericcson xperia arc , same wit nokia phones they got the n8 wit a 12 megapixel camera in a bunch of different colors i got the grey one and many more nokia phones . thats why i like telcel cuz they get awesome phones with no carrier bloatware and u can do wateva u want with them install all the 3rd party apps u want. look up telcel mexicos website and the att website look at the phones in both they have nothing in common .look up vodafone uk or vodafone spain they have all the same phones telcel has.

    • MIKEEEEE

      lucky guy, i’m waiting for t-mo to get a decent MOTO device.

  • ItsMichaelNotMike

    “Clarifies?!” Sorry, where I come from that’s called getting taken to the woodshed. (In this case, by AT&T, papa DT, and Apple. IMO this confirms that Deutsche Telekom is bound by terms of the Buy/Sell Agreement. Implying that TMOUS is getting the iPhone is a breach of that Agreement. And since Apple sure as hell did not give TMOUS permission to talk about Apple’s iPhone road map, I suspect there were a lot of calls at 3:00 a.m. telling Germany they better fix this, starting by issuing a retraction. )

    How embarrassing for Ray and TMOUS executives.

    • Kahlayoh

      hahaha….your posts crack me up! I love reading it!

  • Anonymous

    Getting the iphone would be great for both tmobile employees and tmo customers, but from a business standpoint is it worth the risk? Apple will want an arm and a leg from tmo to carry the iphone. Can tmobile actually sell enough of them to make it worth while? Theres been talk of tmobile reusing pcs spectrum for its upcoming 84mbps hspa data network also…if that happens, the aws argument is pointless. The frequency barrier would be broken. I wish carriers in general would stand up to apple…theyre not the only game in town anymore with android and wp7 gaining popularity

  • Anonymous

    I just went back to read humms statement with the ny times and i dont see anything wrong with them. He says chipsets are evolving to carry more bands…..the likelihood of the next gen iphone having a chip that supports more bands only seems logical. Theres nothing incriminating about humms statements and i dont think theres a need for retraction. The tmo gs2 im typing this comment with is hspa capable on 850/1700/1900/2100. The chips already exist!!!!! Why not include it in the iphone?

  • http://profiles.google.com/jeffery.eckford Jeffery Eckford

    Im sorry I work for T-mobile. I am an all around Android user/developer. But come on guys, T-mobile does need the IPhone in order to stay competitive.  Everyone else has it so why shouldn’t T-Mobile? They would have customers flocking in groves in order to get an IPhone in a value plan.  Come on cheap nationwide plans + a phone that allot of people want= WIN!  I couldn’t tell you how many potential customers walked into my store asking about the IPhone. I show them our top end Android phones and they shrug and leave. They would rather go to higher prices competitors to get one.
    Then imagine the IPhone on our 4G network! it would be the fastest IPhone device so far at least until they release and LTE version.

    • MagentaMadness

      Unlocked iPhone users on TMO network are starting to see 4G on their phones in certain areas due to TMO’s innovation of taking 2G spectrum and harvesting it for 4G. This is being done in Philly as we speak. Pretty awesome strategy.

      • Quinntenfelde

        oooooo i live in philly mayby i should pick up an iphone ……………… now where did i leave that spear 500$

    • Kahlayoh

      I don’t think it’s about wanting to pay more money but just wanting to be like everyone else and what’s popular. It’s like people buying a nice looking jacket that everyone else is getting but it does’nt keep you warm. It makes no sense, but it’s just how most of the people think now days!

    • Anonymous

      It’s important because it’s the top selling phone right now on all the other national carriers and the mainstream perception is that it’s the BEST phone regardless of what more you can do on Android.  T-Mobile is struggling to combat churn right now and when people have hiccups on their Android phones the iPhone is just a reason for people to leave Tmo.  The iPhone can be great for some people but like or not consumers are not informed.  No one is taking the relative advantages of T-Mobile over other carriers when they leave.

  • MIKEEEEE

    if you want an iphone. get one. what’s the big deal?

    if you want it to work right, put it on a network that supports it.

    or move to any other country t-mo is in as they all offer it.

    you can get a german one for 50 euros.

  • Kife0301

    Remember when sprint got the iphone. A tmobile executive was asked when. Would tmobile receive it? His response was not no, but not this year. That was very telling, all signs point to yes.

    • Poopy

      Saying “no” instead of “not this year” would be the dumbest move on t-mobile’s part. T-mobile iPhone hopefuls like myself wouldn’t be very happy.”Not this year” gives hope that it will come soon without any repercussion from customers if it didn’t.

      • Littlesis1774

        This maybe wishful thinking but what if Apple and T-mobile had this all plan.

  • J1jingleheimerschmidt

    IPhone SchmyPhone. I don’t see what’s so great about I Phone. My buddy got one with VZW. It’s only 3G.

    Android is more than enough for me. But this said from a guy who buys $10 Walmart sneakers and leaves the $100 fashion footwear to the vain fools.

    • Anonymous

      It’s just what the sheep want. It’s in demand and having it would help T-Mobile add customers. I love android myself

      • Dwpoff

        You guys with your vailed iPhone envy. I’ve tried Android and hated it. I’m now waiting for what I really want on T-Mobile, an iPhone. When that happens I’ll have the ultimate – the best service and the phone in the industry.

  • Kahlayoh

    T-mobile would love to have it..but I think it’s apple who’s holding out! I think apple is holding out because they make more of a profit selling ulocked phones then to distribute it through the carrier. I would’nt doubt it if T-mobile had more iphone 3G users then AT&T. Apple just needs to care more about the consumer then their own pockets. I’ve read that T-mobile would love to have iphone but it would be up to apple, and in another article I read that there was some differences with the iphone and that no agreement could be made. But I do hope T-mobile will be able to carry the “Iphone” in the near future. It would help the company and the iphone fan boys here at T-mobile! 

    • Anonymous

      T-Mobile only has 1 million iPhone users.  I think at&t and Verizon put pressure on Apple to not make a 4s for T-Mobile.  That would have caused some damage in the industry because T-Mobile would have the best coverage of the fastest iPhone.  When an LTE version comes out, that will be negligible.

      • Littlesis1774

        If the rumors about chipset is true then T-mobile needs to get into bed with Apple now. They need to LTE and iphone 5 in order to stay competitive with AT&T and Verizon. Sprint is having issues with own network to think T-mobile because sprint customers on their forum are talking about leaving for t-mobile but they don’t want android phone.

      • Kahlayoh

        The known 1 Million iphone users isn’t the actual amount. I bet you there’s more that did’nt inform T-mobile that they are using the iphone. Now days you can search anywhere on the internet to look for settings to input into the iphone for network and mms settings. So I’m guessing there might be more then 1 million, but I was talking about being back when it was just AT&T that had the iphone. 

  • Anonymous

    It’s not just apple’s decision, it’s the carriers.  Apple isnt going to commit to making a phone with xbands if you arent going to commit to buying y units.  Look at what Sprint did, they committed 20B for the next 4 years? to have the iPhone.  Now, last I checked Apple likes money.  

    it’s purely a dollar commitment that TMO didnt want to make in the past and may want to now.

    • Littlesis1774

      I think they are going to make it.

  • casey4life

    T-moble Germany has never fully committed to is wing her in the states and that they are bleeding money, it is unlikely that will commit 20Billion like sprint instead look for T-mobile to break up and be sold for scraps in the next year.