T-Mobile Changes To Domestic Data Roaming Detailed, Confirmed For April 5th

Well we can now chalk this “rumor” firmly up in the “confirmed” category for April 5th as we’ve gotten our hands on some more detail for T-Mobile’s planned changes to domestic data roaming plans. Right away, T-Mobile does point out:

“Domestic data roaming will not be subject to data speed reduction. The allotment will be reset with each bill cycle. After the allotment is reached, the customer will no longer have data roaming access until they return to the T-Mobile network or connect via Wi-Fi if they have a Wi-Fi capable device.”

T-Mobile will begin notifying customers in early February via bill insert, email and SMS introducing the new domestic data roaming plans. The domestic roaming data allotments will apply to all existing and grandfathered data plans and in T-Mobile’s words “…will help T-Mobile reduce data roaming costs in order to continue providing the most competitive pricing options…While domestic data roaming allotments are new for T-Mobile, they are currently used across the wireless industry and are quite common with other carriers. It is expected that few customers use enough domestic data while roaming to be impacted by this change.”

On April 5th, customers roaming outside of T-Mobile’s data network will be notified via text message when they reach both 80% and 100% of their domestic roaming data allotment.

So who and what are exempt from these new data roaming plans?

  • Business/Government accounts
  • Small Business Accounts
  • T-Mobile employee accounts
  • Mobile broadband rate plans
  • Voice domestic roaming
  • Text and picture messaging while roaming domestically
  • International voice and data roaming

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  • Anonymous

    So…this is a cap for 2G or it’ll affect the new 3G roaming agreement as well?

    • http://twitter.com/BruceCLin Bruce Lin

      All data usage. 

      • Anonymous

        Thanks

  • GinaDee

    So mobile broadband users can roam all they want? 

    • http://benpike.net Ben Pike

      yes.

      • info411man

        Unless something has changed since I’ve been out on LOA mobile broadband plans are not able to roam domestically.

      • stoneyjonez

        No. They cannot.

    • Cincibearcat09

      Mobile broadband plans do not allow roaming on other networks, so no, they cant.

  • http://twitter.com/efjay01 Ef Jay

    No problem for me, tend to disable data roaming on my phone because of the cost anyway. Lets hope they channel the savings into improving the network and address the need to roam in the first place.

    • Kirk

      You disable data roaming on your phone because of the cost? What are you talking about. Domestic roaming doesn’t cost you anything.

      • http://www.joshrobertnay.com/ Respawn

         It’s possible that he’s meaning the cost to T-Mobile. I do the same thing because of this, but I’m on Wi-Fi and T-Mobile network 90% of the time anyway.

    • Deceptivesmiles

      Exactly. But of course ppl will complain, jump ship, and complain more when they get hit from behind no vaseline. 

  • GinaDee

    What does “exempt,” mean in this situation?  Does it mean they “can’t data roam,” or there are no theoretical roaming caps?

    • http://benpike.net Ben Pike

      exempt means data roaming caps do not apply to those account types.

  • guest

    In May, my contract is up.  This will probably be end of T-Mobile for me.  The main reason I stuck with them was domestic data roaming.  I may as well go to somebody like Virgin Mobile now for less cost.

  • http://profiles.google.com/kevin.krueger Kevin Krueger

    Interesting how they’ve been pushing customer retention lately, while rolling out customer hostile initiatives like this.

  • http://twitter.com/BruceCLin Bruce Lin

    What I want to know is that if it void the contract.

    • Christopher Davis

      I’m also interested in this. This seems to me to constitute the exact definition of a “Material Change” in my contract for service with T-Mobile…

      • Th3problem17

        You can’t cancel a contract for this, the maternal change term gets thrown around way to much.

        • Christopher Davis

          I don’t recall citing any “maternal” change. Either way, I spend 95% of my time either roaming or on Wi-Fi calling. I’ve got better things to do than get throttled, capped, AND stuck in the 2G age because T-Mobile only provides 3G/4G to HUGE cities. Time to go to Sprint and get an iPhone, which I’ve wanted since I brought my iPhone 3G back from Japan in 2008.

        • Tbyrne

          You think Dan’s going to give you more speed?

  • Gustomer

    What does this mean for my unlimited data/text Monthly 4G pre-paid plan?

    • James

      prepaid cant roam

    • ClimbGuy

      nothing, pre-paid plans do not allow roaming

  • http://www.twitter.com/mrjlwilliams J. Williams

    ????

  • http://robert.aitchison.org raitchison

    Is there any way to easily tell when roaming?  I would expect that whenever I’m limited to EDGE that I’m roaming on AT&T’s network, sadly this is the case quite a lot as TMOs network has gotten worse in recent years.

    • Anonymous

      Usually you will see the roaming icon in the notification bar and sometimes and may also see a message or the word roaming when you send a message, etc. The 2G (EDGE) is still on T-Mobile and usually just means that you are not receiving a strong enough signal to get 3G/4G.

    • Just Root It

      When your phone indicates another network provider other than t-mobile i.e. AT&T.. then you are roaming. Dropping down to edge while on t-mos network is not roaming.

  • RB

    people that want to term a contact over this are pretty silly. Most all major carriers have the same policy, so why would u cancel with a carrier with a lower cost just to pay more elsewhere with the same restrictions? People just want to trigger to cxl over any little thing, no matter who their carrier is…

    • IphoneCalling

      Very true, but people always judge t-mobile unfairly. When everyone else had upgrade fees and then tmo did, peopel complained. When everyone else had restocking fees, and then tmo added them…everyone complained. Peopel expect tmobile to run at a level of Verizon, while chargeing less fees, and building out an LTE network, while shelling out billions to get an Iphone… its crazy.

      • WillieFDiaz

        By adding all he inconveniences of other carriers, they no longer are a value, that’s why people leave. Go to a carrier where you get better service for those fees and unlike TMpbile, other carriers grandfather customers in before changes

        • IphoneCalling

          For t-mobile to get better service (like other major carrieres) they must charge the same fees teh Larger carriers do. No way around that. Everyone wants tmo to be as good as verizon or AT&T yet somehow be much cheaper…Give me some what they are smokin!! No company can provide good service, unless they charge one way or another.

          But you are right. Tmobile is in a bad position. they must charge all teh fees other carriers do so they can build LTE, get newer phones, and stay competitive, yet, they must attract customers which they can’t do with phones (because other carriers have LTE speeds and Iphones) and they can’t do with network accross the US.. so they better think of something fast.

        • http://twitter.com/WillieFDiazSF William Diaz ?

          This is why I strongly believe in grandfathering in their contracted, non-contracted and legacy customers into the previous rates, fees, etc. Only start new customers on the new changes, or those who resign new rate plan change contracts. If a customer is simply upgrading or wishes to be in a contract to keep their rate and fees the same, this rule wouldnt apply. But instead, T-Mobile wants to screw everyone, piss them off and cause them to leave by not offering the simple grandfather.

        • Anonymous

          If you don’t see a value in T-Mobile then you’re just sadly paying extra because you can’t do math.

          A T-Mobile Value plan times 24 months plus the full retail price of a phone is cheaper than anything out there.  Multiply any other plan times 24 months and add your discounted price of the phone, see if you get anywhere close.

    • ok

      I always like changing to be like other carriers. Heard that before. Due date change and 20 dollar reconnect etc. Now how about make coverage like other carriers. Imitate the good from the other carriers not the bad.

  • Just Root It

    This seems to affect users only if and when they use data while roaming on other networks. I travel a lot, and rarely encounter times that I roam on other networks. When I do, the speed is typically very slow, so I don’t use it much.

    Therefore, I don’t think this will affect me at all.

  • Almamort

    I told you… XD…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KGGTHCDDWPS5BECRK6OEAKE5PU Aaron .

    Can i get a roaming map anywhere ???  I travel often and now need to figure out if this is going to effect me or not.

  • TDregs

    Does this mean I can get out of my contract?

    • Anonymous

      probably not

  • Chatter

    You can disable data roaming in Android right? So if that was your default and you have lived just fine so far, then you will not be affected. Would anyone like to correct me please if I have this wrong?

    • http://twitter.com/Serotheo Simon Yu

      Yep you can its right under the Mobile network settings.

      • Chatter

        Thanks!

  • MIKEEEEE

    if t-mo had great coverage it wouldn’t matter, they don’t. 

    after 10 and a half years i’m leaving.

    • James

      Bye

    • Guest

      B****

  • WillieFDiaz

    ETF waiver here I come. Regardless if all carriers do it, TMobile didn’t and I view that as a change to my rate as now I’m unable to access data paid for under a no roaming charge contract.

    • Anonymous

      only if you’re roaming a lot, other than that good luck

      • Aaron

        It is a fundamental change to the contract and you will be able to leave sans-ETF even if you are not directly affected. And if they try and fight you and you aren’t interested in fighting, go outside your area and download a 1GB file. Then it’ll affect you. My contracts are up in May anyway.

        • Dominique

          You didn’t read the article did you?  You can’t download a 1GB file outside of the T-mobile coverage area because they will cut you off. 

      • http://twitter.com/WillieFDiazSF William Diaz ?

        5. Our Rights to Make Changes.  This provision, which describes how changes may be made to your Agreement, is subject to requirements and limitations imposed by applicable law, and will not be enforced to the extent prohibited by law. Your Service is subject to our business policies, practices, and procedures, which we can change without notice.  WE CAN CHANGE ANY TERMS IN THE AGREEMENT AT ANY TIME. YOU MAY CANCEL THE AFFECTED LINE OF SERVICE WITHOUT AN EARLY TERMINATION FEE (if applicable) IF:  (A) WE CHANGE YOUR PRICING IN A MANNER THAT MATERIALLY INCREASES YOUR MONTHLY RECURRING CHARGE(S) (the amount you agreed to pay each month for voice, data and messaging, which does not include overage, pay-per-use or optional services (such as 411, or downloads), or taxes and fees); 
        (B) WE MATERIALLY DECREASE THE SERVICE ALLOTMENTS WE AGREED TO PROVIDE TO YOU FOR YOUR MONTHLY RECURRING CHARGE; OR  (C)  WE MATERIALLY CHANGE A TERM IN THESE T&Cs OTHER THAN PRICING IN A MANNER THAT IS MATERIALLY ADVERSE TO YOU.  WE WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH AT LEAST 30 DAYS’ NOTICE OF ANY CHANGE WARRANTING CANCELLATION OF THE AFFECTED LINE OF SERVICE WITHOUT AN EARLY TERMINATION FEE (WHICH IS YOUR ONLY REMEDY), AND YOU MUST NOTIFY US WITHIN 14 DAYS AFTER YOU RECEIVE THE NOTICE, OR AS OTHERWISE PROVIDED IN THE NOTICE. IF YOU FAIL TO TERMINATE WITHIN THE RELEVANT TIMEFRAME, YOU ACCEPT THE CHANGES.

        SEE CLAUSE B… Decrease Service Allotments we agreed to provide to you for your monthly recurring charge. – In this case, a specific amount of data, and that specific amount of data is stated as below..

        11.* Roaming and International Calling.   Roaming: Your Device may connect to another provider’s network (“Off-Net”) even when you are within the T-Mobile coverage area. Check your Device to determine if you are Off-Net. There may be extra Charges (including long distance, tolls, data usage) and higher rates for Off-Net usage, depending on your Rate Plan. You must use your Device predominantly within the T-Mobile owned network coverage area. We may limit or terminate your Service without prior notice if you no longer reside in a T-Mobile-owned network coverage area or if more than 50% of your voice and/or data usage is Off-Net for any three billing cycles within any 12 month period. 

        Note… We may limit or terminate your Service without prior notice if you no longer reside in a T-Mobile-owned network coverage area or if more than 50% of your voice and/or data usage is Off-Net for any three billing cycles within any 12 month period

        SEE.. 50% OF YOUR VOICE AND DATA USAGE. MEANING “UNLIMITED” DATA but 50% of the complete data billed that you used in that month which could be between 0.01kb and 5GB or MORE.

        So YES.. I CAN get out of my contract, ETF free, since based on their own terms when I signed my contract – this is exactly what is stated. 

        • Tbyrne

          Thanks Willie! Now with you gone, that’ll free up some more bandwidth for the rest of us.

        • Aaron Tant

          Good luck………… but highly doubtful seeing as T-Mobile is not providing you with the service when you’re roaming.  The service that T-Mobile is providing has not changed.  But hey, do what you want to do.

  • WillieFDiaz

    Sprint doesn’t cut you off, they charge you $0.40-$0.45 per minute and 0.03$ per KB overage if you exceed

  • Th3problem17

    Companies have to make money somehow, it’s funny everyone wants tmobile to improve and think the money comes from the sky, come on they have to get on board with the other carriers that are making plenty money, some of these are their practices, and work quite well based on their customer base AT&T Verizon wireless come on now. 75 percent of you wouldn’t have even known anything or noticed a difference without David posting this. Show some kind of comprehension.

    • Anonymous

      Tmo was paying AT&T $400 mil a year for 10,000 customers who roamed on its network, money that can go to something else more meaningful, like improving coverage so people won’t have to roam. At least they’re not calling people and telling them to get lost like other carriers do

  • Interesting…

    I wonder how this will effect GPS. If you go cross country and your data cuts off and your GPS dies, you are screwed.

    • Dakane

      How about a MAP placed in the glove box.

      • Blackthorne32

        Yes, and a sundail on the dashboard.

  • Guest

    So if I get a corporate discount because of my employer, will I be affected as well?

    • an

      No. You are considered a business/government account. If what I read from above is correct, you won’t notice a change because of your account type.

      • Dominique

        Corporate discount and business account are two separate things.  Corporate discounted accounts fall into the limit for roaming.

  • Tmo Ninja

    1) WTF will not be waived unless you periodically live in a roaming area.

    2) Mobile Broadband plans aren’t exempt because they don’t allow for domestic risking in the first place.

    • Tmo Ninja

      *ETF

      • Anonymous

        I think you had it right the first time.

        • Tmo Ninja

          *sees what you did there*

  • nerdlust

    It was nice of tmobile to keep it as long as they did since the other carriers already got rid of unlimted roaming a long time ago. $400 million on 10k customers thats a waste spend that on network upgrades.

    • Frigadroid

      What network upgrades? Didn’t you hear they are also selling their towers. The money will be used to line the pockets of the DT carpetbaggers.

      • As

        I’m really tired of hearing all the bashing about t-mobile “selling” their towers. People, most cell companies don’t own towers. It’s as headache!

        They have the flexibility of signing 5, ten, 15 or 30 year leases and retain full access to the real estate and hardware. They can also raise 3 billi.

        Real estate is a expensive slow appreciating asset.

        Enough already.

        • Frigadroid

          Regardless of what you have been led to believe we’ve seen plenty of companies tank before, thank you. This is a perfect example of what it looks like. They start by cutting cost & staff then they sell all the assets as they scramble to raise cash. Try to look at it realistically instead of with your DT supplied tmobile fan boy goggles.

        • Tbyrne

          Yeah just like they said the giants couldn’t beat the patriots a few years ago. Eli & Fitzgerald proved them wrong just as you’ll be proved wrong Friggy!

    • Dlehrke

      You think $400 on 10k customers is true? Did you do the math on that? THAT’S $40,000 per customer. Does that sound true to you?

  • Ridingonfumes04@yahoo.com

    Wow tmobile get a new huge roaming agreement with at&t and then they turn around and screw us on being able to use it.
    I live on the road in an rv and use roaming a lot. This may be the excuse I needed to switch to verizion.

    • Phozfate

      anyone who is on the road a lot should have verizon. Its worth the extra money to have service in remote locations

      • JP

        I have driven all over the country, and the only place I have had issues with the phone was the middle on nowhere, VT.  Even people with VZW had no signal, but as soon as I hit wifi, they were jealous of me having wifi calling, and were calling their voicemail to check for messages. 

  • Anonymous

    The only time i have ever roamed was when i went to hawaii. I roamed with ATT. The data speeds on their edge network were so bad, i just turned off data to keep the battery from draining. Couldnt do anything. I dont think i could have used 5MB if i wanted to lol

  • Frigadroid

    I don’t like the way tmobile keeps cutting back, just one disappointing money grab change after another. Now I’m sure I won’t be signing any future contracts. No, I won’t be paying more at the other carriers. If and when I decide to go I will pay less for a walmart plan, they work just fine for my brother & uncle.

    • Tbyrne

      Hooray! Please let it happen sooner than later.

      • Frigadroid

        Yeah its something to cheer about we’re # 3 soon to be # 4! People aren’t leaving fast enough, so lets come up with some other cost cutting ways to limit the “unlimited” data that’s brilliant! Looks to me like DT is trying to squeeze all the money they can out of tmobiles costumers before they try to sell again.

        • Frigadroid

          Wait a second we are # 4 soon to be # 5 I forgot sprint who offers unlimited and the iphone blew by us go figure. But keep cheering like a corporate fan boy at a company being run into the ground, that will have to do since that’s all you got :-(

        • Tbyrne

          Hooray boys & girls! Friggy might be leaving soon. I heard Dan’s a nice place this time of year, or perhaps Randall.

        • Frigadroid

          Don’t hold your breath. I said I won’t be signing any contract and if I leave I would go with a cheaper walmart plan. Just because I seem to bother you so much gives me some extra incentive to stick around ;-P

        • Tbyrne

          Good! You don’t bother me Frigadroid, I want you to stay around. Don’t leave T-Mobile bro. Wouldn’t be the same without you.

  • http://twitter.com/CactoesGel Dean Darkblue

    Does this mean that T-Mobile will finally offer the Galaxy Note?  The Canadians are getting theirs, why can’t we?

  • Wheresbrent

    If you have an issue with this, you are dumb. TMobile isn’t a charity, Theres a cost to doing business, and if someone does try to get out of there contract cause of this isn’t needed by tmobile or any other carrier anyway. This issue literally effects 3 out of 1000 customers anyways

    • Craigers

      Dumb? Really? Grow up and learn a few conversation skills before you go posting on blogs.

    • Purenupe1

      if it really only affects 3 of 1000 customers and is no big deal then T-mobile wouldn’t have done it; you idiot. Who are you to insult some one who doesn’t like or understand the change. Its people like you who get punched in the face for being a know it all ass.

      • Wheresbrent

        Its a big deal cause it costs a lot for that .3% so yes people who pass judgement because they dont know or understand are the real idiots

    • Sdf

      It’s not dumb. When you’re paying three tits a month, and you get three tats for it why should it be  OK to all of a sudden have to pay 3 tits and only get 2 tats. If we’re losing a service, our cost should decrease.

  • ClimbGuy

    this just reminds me how much I like my $44.99/MRC Small Biz unlimited voice, texts, and 5GB of full speed data.

  • Dfireballwow

    Well me as a truck driver i use data everywhere this really sucks for me because i depend on my phone so much. This is really bullshit. and I’m sure they will come up with something, well if you pay just another $20.00 we will give you 1GB. what is really funny is most of the time once you are out of town. Say good by to your data and that’s on T mobile wonderful network. I have a great idea how about all the towers that they upgraded to 4G how about taking some of the old equipment and sending it out to the country sides?????

    • Suckit

      Do you even understand what kind of leg work goes into putting up a tower? Go to your next town board meeting and see if your neighbors say Yes PLEASE, when a carrier is there requesting to build a tower in your neighborhood

    • JustMeHere

      I have now decided to go to the 40 dollar no contract plan and use Sprint for the rest.

      Tmobile is losing 50 dollars a month because of this clause.

      Get a Sprint MIFI with umlimited data and be done with this.  Then just use TMobile for voice… I might even suspend that as well and just use Google Voice and be done with all this.  Then TMobile loses 100 dollars a month.

    • ruffes

      I don’t think there is one truck driver without a gps. I wouldn’t want my phone melting on my dashboard for sure. They are inexpensive.

  • Tazy254

    So can I cancel without etf?

    • Anonymous

      No.

  • Nearmsp

    I have no problem for T-mobile to raise prices or charge for something not charged earlier. My problem is that they have no right to fundamentally change the nature of the signed contract which did not limit roaming data. If they want to introduce it they should start having that clause for all new contracts and renewals. If DT had tried this anywhere in Europe they would have been smacked by the regulators. Here in the US where cash for congress keeps regulators emasculated we have no recourse. To those saying it is only 10 out of 1000 customers, that is not the issue. The issue is can one side unilaterally change the conditions of the signed contract? I think if this was challenged by those who are affected as a class action, T-mobile will have to pay compensation.

    • suckit

      Read your contract idiot. It states the terms which make up said contract are subject to change, with or without notice.

      • Anonymous

        read your contract idiot. It states adverse changes allows exemption of the ETF. Idiot.

  • Craigers

    I love Tmobile and I wont leave because of this. Heck I’m an Apple addict and I’ve still stayed with Tmobile despite no iPhone. However unless you live in a major metropolitan area, or never leave your city this will effect you. Tmobile saying it will have an effect on only 10,000 customers is just silly. We have all seen the Tmobile coverage map. When I’m traveling to see my family I am roaming most of the time. There is simply no tmobile coverage. I’m all for tmobile saving money to properly invest, ect. What I don’t understand is why they don’t simply offer extra data for a price when you reach the limit. I would be fine with a txt saying “you have reached your 100 mb data roaming limit. For an additional 100mb for $5 reply to this message…”. This way I can choose if I want to pay more once my limit is reached.

    • Anonymous

      Agreed. Cutting off the data completely and telling customers find wifi or tmobile service isn’t a great solution. Im in the u.s. virgin islands and there is ZERO tmobile service. I’m roaming always (only Sprint and at&t here). I may have to leave tmobile because I enjoy traveling.

      • Anonymous

        So why havent you left yet? if there is no service, whats the point of staying?

        • Anonymous

          Justsaying tmobile roams on a different company here in the virgin islands called “innovative”.

          And ugly pete I just came to the united states virgin islands a month ago. (I have months on my contract remaining) I still get voice service (using Google voice or wifi calling), so I’m not that desperate. But with this change in data usage I may have to leave before my contract is up.

        • Anonymous

          If you can show proof that you moved to an area with no coverage, they waive the etf.

        • Cashman

          Updated tmo policy does not allow you to cancel your account if you are not in a coverage area.

        • Anonymous

          Since when? I helped a customer in my store do this 2 weeks ago

        • Dominique

          Since February 2011.  Look it up in Community and you’ll see it.

        • Anonymous

          Weird. When I called up they didn’t mention a change. All they wanted was proof of their new address.

        • Aaron Tant

          They changed that policy sometime last year.  At this point, that sort of ETF waiver would on be granted out of leniency from the Care Rep.  But, not per policy.

      • JustSaying

        how can you roam on Sprint with a T-Mobile phone??

  • Tazy254

    Hey David can I cancel without paying ETF for this?

    • Anonymous

      I’m wondering this also. In my area I have no service at all. I’m going to reach 50 MB easily. Thanks in advance David.

      • Tazy254

        Also if you ( David ) tell us we can can you also show the qualifications and how we would cancel without being charged the ETF Thanks David I love t-mobile but brother wants to go to sprint for the iPhone

        • http://tmonews.com David

          I’m not sure whether or not an ETF would be waived because of this. I assume that is a possibility here, but that’s an assumption based on my own interpretation…in other words, just my own personal opinion, not the TmoNews website. I’ll try and do a little more checking into this to see how they plan on handling ETF cancellations, if at all.

        • Anonymous

          As a former T-Mobile manager I can tell you that no the ETF will not be waived for this. The T-Mobile terms and conditions state that only a material change to your MONTHLY charges qualify for an etf waiver. So if they changed your set monthly charges like your rate plan or text plan then it would qualify. Things like data roaming are not included in this. This is similar to when they started charging reconnect fee’s for being partially suspended, it only affected you if you didn’t pay your bill on time. Data roaming is similar as it will only affect you if you go outside of a T-Mobile coverage area. So no there would not be an etf waiver option on this.

        • Tazy254

          What if this affects the owner of the line because he travels a lot because of his job can this count for a ETF waiver? Thanks to anyone who answers

        • Anonymous

          Instead of asking this question a million times why don’t you just CALL THEM AND ASK when it your service is impacted because of this change…. T-Mobile is going to have the only valid answer… 

        • Dominique

          The only way to get out of an ETF is if you are deceased or can prove that you are being deployed overseas for a permanent placement.  Everything else is considered valid ETF charges, even moving to an area with no service.

        • Kirk

          Dominique if you are an employee maybe you can answer this question. Can the mobile hotspot promotion be added to the $20 Android preferred unlimited data plan? Anyway loyalty can add it?

        • Dominique

          If you’re talking about the free tethering plan with 5GB then no.  It’s not just a feature they add on.  It’s the 5GB plan for $30 or 10GB plan for $60 with a different name.  Loyalty can’t add a free tethering for you because it doesn’t exist.  It only exists in those two data features I mentioned or $14.99 by itself.

        • Kirk

          Ok thanks. Someone in the original promotion thread claims loyalty added the free tethering onto his $20 android preferred data plan.

        • Detox702

          This is wrong. It has been proven time and time again that a ‘materially adverse change’ (eg something that would cost you more than you agreed to when you signed the contract, that you can’t choose to opt out of voluntarily) is a valid reason to cancel without an ETF. This has come up every time every carrier has changed text message rates. 

          I don’t know if that would apply in this case, as you can’t really be ‘materially affected’ by this, but they are making an adverse change to your contract without your consent. 

    • Anonymous

      David can you also let me know if I can fraud the IRS and if so how?

      • http://tmonews.com David

        This made me literally laugh out loud.

  • DetroitTechnoFan

    What if you’re on EM+ and have unlimited data?

    • TmoCSR

      check again boss.  your data is at best a 5gb data feature.  “unlimited” just means there is no overage fees.  youll still get throttled.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AWWIKW6MNPUHOC4OVSHWUDWAHM Fabio

    Who cares? Why do people need to be on their phones 24/7? If you are traveling concentrate on what you’re doing and leave your phone alone! All people do is, FACEBOOK, twitter, etc etc. Stop using data while you’re busy.. or just find wifi. A phone was made for talking and texting, internet on a phone is just a LUXURY.

    • Tjbunch1228

      Sorry Fabio, but that is like saying the internet was invented for military communication, YouTube and Amazon are just a luxury. Technology advances and people pay businesses who provide these services good money to utilize them. Saying that something should only be used for the functions it originally started out for is just ignorant.

    • Damien

      This would also affect turn by turn GPS and Pandora, which I both use while driving. 

  • TBC

    Like anybody else, I can understand why this might
    seem like a huge deal on its face, but I want to bring some additional
    perspective if possible.  Although
    T-Mobile has made dramatic strides in terms of building out its core network
    and launching 3G/4G at a break neck pace over the last few years, a network
    can’t be built over night, and operators with larger networks aren’t always
    highly interested in renegotiating “competitive” wholesale rates. Can
    you imagine if you received 10 times or more roaming traffic than your customers
    generated on other carrier networks?  Recall
    all of the recent studies and statistics around growth in overall data use, doubling,
    tripling, etc, each year.  I’m sure you
    can see how some carriers may be disincented to come to the negotiating table
    regularly (revenue protection).  When
    wholesale pricing does not adjust to accommodate the growth in usage, it can severely
    impact the cost to serve the customer and ultimately whether it is feasible to
    continue to do so.  Having said that,
    this will affect an extremely small percentage of subscribers, and subscribers
    who today are highly unprofitable. They also likely realize they are
    perpetually roaming outside the T-Mobile network (the ever present AT&T
    reference on your handset is a hint). This will not impact customers who
    occasionally travel outside their coverage area, or those that even spend a
    good part of their time roaming. This will impact customers that essentially
    never use the T-Mobile network and have an extreme usage profile in general
    (IE, driving GBs per month through tethering or other high bandwidth hogging
    measures – IT IS possible, even at EDGE speeds). This is consistent with what
    every other carrier does and I see it as a more attractive alternative to outright
    cancellation (see T&Cs).  It’s also a
    good way for T-Mobile to help change the “rent versus buy” paradigm.
    Think about how many more cell sites they could put up each year if this
    dramatically reduced the amount of opex they spent on roaming for capex they
    spend on network builds.  $100M, $200M,
    that would certainly go a long way on incremental builds each year!  When a policy change affecting 0.03% of your
    subscriber base can be made which will ultimately provide a better experience
    for the other 99.97%, it has to be considered. This will help T-Mobile expedite
    continued build outs while not negatively impacting the vast majority of all
    current customers!  In the end, it seems
    like a soft approach to enforce their current T&Cs, similar to those of
    Verizon, Sprint, and AT&T.  Some will
    not like it (as they maximize the “value” T-Mobile provides to a
    detriment), but the rest will go on without notice.  Definitely a wise business decision on
    T-Mobile’s part!

    • Dlehrke

      Great post T-Mobile employee. Doesn’t change the fact that we’re losing a service that we’re paying for and will continue to pay for.

    • Jeffcraig

      As every TMO customer knows, coverage outside of major metros and highways is very poor. Anyone who uses navigation on their Android phone WILL be impacted by this.

      Imagine if TMO did the same thing with voice usage. For example, after 100 minutes of talk off-network, your ability to make calls will cease. If I agree to a contract which allows me to talk for X amount of minutes irregardless of network, then suddenly changing the contact and limiting my usage on new terms is breaking the original contract. Are there any substantive differences between this new data policy and a similar voice usage policy?

      The fact is, without roaming, TMOs network footprint is far too small.

      • TmoCSR

        actually there is a part of the ToS when you sign a contract that states tmobile can change the ToS at any time without notifiying you about it. 

        its not breaking the contract at all.

  • Kirk

    I use Google Navigation ALL the time, practically everyday. I don’t want to be lost somewhere roaming and suddenly my data stops. Am I suppose to pull WiFi out of my ass?

    Does anyone know if At&t does this also? I’m seriously considering switching carriers by the time this change goes into action in April.

  • Noelseven

    I like t-mobile too,just upgraded to a two year contract,umlimted text, calling and 5gb data plan.Which sum to 80 bucks a month.I have 3 phones iphone is one them.Been with them for over ten years now.I hope they up grade their tower where we could have 3g or 4g on iphone.But with all these every day changes.without iphone upgrade data.Then yes i will pay the termination fee and never look back.

  • Dlehrke

    I guess it wouldn’t be as frustrating if it wasn’t such a kick in the nuts amount. 50 megs on a 2g plan?! Thanks for the 2.5% of my plan. There’s really no need for such a heavy hand. There’s no reason they couldn’t have taken a balanced approach. If we were talking about 50%, 25% or even 10% of a data plan being a roaming cap, I know I’d feel much less taken advantage of. 2.5% might be industry standard but when you sign up for a plan with unlimited roaming, a change to 2.5% really seems like a money-grab.

  • http://twitter.com/LarsKelley Lars Kelley

    This change is very obvious.  Before you could only roam on AT&T’s EDGE network.  The new roaming agreement will allow us to roam on AT&T’s 3G network.  So perhaps the iPhone on T-Mobile will now work on 3G but you will be limited on the data you can use if you choose to use AT&T 3G over T-Mobile EDGE.

    I travel quite a bit myself, mostly driving and it seems pretty much everywhere has T-Mobile EDGE or 3G.  Maine was a bit spotty with me going on AT&T EDGE here and there.  So I guess the verdict is that rural places might suffer, but this won’t effect the majority of customers but actually give the a better roaming experience (IE 3G).

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  • StinkFinGr

    I live in Northern California. Just driving around Napa valley, trying to navigate to wineries, and roam in and out of network. So there is no way that this affects only.3% of people.

  • haters on the rocks

    can someone explain what this means?

    • Jcj1

      it means people who use alot of data outside t-mobile coverage are going to get cut off every month after a set amount of data roaming. If you don’t use alot of web, email, market and streaming music/video it will not be a big deal as calling, SMS and MMS will work fine past the cut off

  • G4th

    I wish my phone would roam so I would have some towers!

  • http://twitter.com/csweeney05 Chris Sweeney

    I think the bigger issue here is “Just cutting you off”, it would be one thing if they let you buy more roaming, but to just cut you off dead is stupid.  I don’t know any other carrier that just shuts off your service without an option to pay extra to continue to use it.  T-Mobile could chose to charge a fee to allow roaming past the limits and should to keep everyone happy.

    • mousey2185

      I called and talked to a T-Mobile. Rep and he tried tobtalj me out of switching. To Verizon for that reason he said if u go over u have to pay more I said right makes since to me to pay extra and have internet then pay and not have it. Cuz I drive a truck and I roam all day and I blow through 10 gigs in a few days. Its almost crazy that they shut u down like that. Wat if I was like I dont want to pay my full bill this month cuz I can’t use my internet to its full potential. Them they gone cut my service off. I don’t like this at all. Looks like I’m gone be a new Verizon Customer very soon.

      • Tbyrne

        You’re sentences are very coherent. Good job mouse.

        • Moss

          They are either coherent or not coherent. They are not very coherent.

        • Tbyrne

          Thanks Randy.

      • Jcj1

        do you use data all day while roaming? Doubtful, so unless your phone is your GPS you won’t have a problem

      • John Jacob Jingleheimerschmidt

        Mousey2185: “I drive a truck and I roam all day and I blow through 10 gigs in a few days”.

        What do you do, stream Youtube all day while you’re driving? Ray Lahood wouldn’t approve of that.:(

  • http://twitter.com/csweeney05 Chris Sweeney

    Yep goto Wal-Mart that service is run by T-Mobile.

  • Mousey2185

    Looks like I’m leaving T-Mobile because I’m a truck driver and I’m always in roaming. I would rather go with Verizon and pay for the extra internet then pay and not have it at all.

  • http://twitter.com/shipman jon shipman

    Sigh, so much for that UTMS deal with AT&T