The Continuing Saga Of The Galaxy S, Galaxy Tab Ice Cream Sandwich Update

The continuing saga of the Galaxy S, Galaxy Tab Ice Cream Sandwich update continues into yet another day as a new rumor suggests Samsung will release a “Value Pack” in lieu of the full Android 4.0 update. This “Value Pack” would bring some of the Ice Cream Features to the Galaxy S, Galaxy Tab line up without stressing the hardware as Samsung suggests would be the case with the full update.

The real question is…would this be a fair middle ground between Samsung and a newly irate user base who question whether or not Samsung is ignoring old hardware? For now, it’s a compromise worth exploring as we really can’t say whether or not this “Value Pack” would bring the most requested features or none at all. Until we get official word from Samsung regarding any of this, it’s all rumor and conjecture.

Stay tuned as we’re bound to get another rumor on the matter tomorrow.

Android Central via Daum.net

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  • http://c0rinne.net Corinne

    I think it’s a good idea. I want an update but what’s the point if my phone becomes unusable (like my iphone 3g was on 4.0)? Might as well use my upgrade to get a new phone. (Which I’m not doing because I want to hold on to it.)

  • http://twitter.com/turbosix turbosix

    i don’t want a fucking value pack. just give us all AOSP 4.0 and be done with it. no one wants touchwiz. 

    • Anonymous

      Well said. Again and louder!

      • Pundit

        I DON’T WANT A FUCKING VALUE PACK. JUST GIVE US ALL AOSP 4.0 AND BE DONE WITH IT. NO ONE WANTS TOUCHWIZ.

  • Anonymous

    There is no good excuse for a premium-priced phone to be unable to accept the most recent OS update approximately a year following the release of the device. Samsung doesn’t want to give up its TouchWiz nonsense, and thus can’t squeeze ICS onto the phone. Very, very bad software engineering if that’s the case.

    It is because of ridiculous situations like this that I gave up on Android and bought an iPhone. It would have been nice if Google had taken control of the releasing of the updates, but it already gave up too much control to the carriers and manufacturers in order to get the fastest growth possible. Google did what was best for Google, but unfortunately that is not always what is best for the customer.

    • http://twitter.com/Lawless_1 Lawless_1

      The Galaxy Tab is not Touchwiz.

      • Anonymous

        For the record, I wrote “phone”.

        However, Samsung is blaming (in no particular order) TouchWiz, Samsung widgets, and carrier bloat as the reasons why both the Galaxy S and the Tab 7 lack sufficient memory to add ICS *and* keep all the extraneous crap that Google allows the manufacturers and carriers to add to the phones.

        What the hell, as long as the OS is open, right?

        Just out of curiosity, how many times in the past has Samsung just kicked owners of its past products to the curb instead of updating the hardware? How long will customers continue to trust them to provide even the most basic courtesy of keeping the recently-sold products current?

      • Anonymous

        do you mean the tab doesn’t HAVE touchwiz? or that galaxy tab and touchwiz are two different things? cuz the tab has touchwiz, and geokaplan didn’t seem confused about what touchwiz is…..

  • Branco

    can someone tell me HOW i can update my samsung galaxy mini?

    • 30014

      Root and install a custom rom. Other than that you’re s.o.l. Sorry man.

  • 30014

    This isn’t samsung’s first rodeo when it comes to their consumer base getting screwed over software updates. Behold 2 anyone. They’ll put out a half assed update for the galaxy s then they’ll releases the gs3 and fools will line up to buy it and the cycle will repeat. People should realize that samsung considers their role over once your purchase of their hardware is complete. Making sure your software is the latest version is not a priority to them, their actions are proving this. No need for anyone to come to samsungs defense, their actions speak louder than their words. I’ll never buy a samsung unless it’s a nexus, I don’t care how impressive their hardware is.

    • Anonymous

      …Says the scared for life Behold 2 owner.

      You know the Galaxy S got TWO updates over its lifetime right??  This time around they are a little confused but after seeing all the disappointment, I can guarantee they will provide some sort of update that won’t bog the phone down to uselessness.

      “I’ll never buy a samsung unless it’s a nexus”

      And that comment always cracks me up.  

      • Bruce Banner

        Wow pimpstrong you’re sounding like a sheep. Bhah! Bhah! There’s no justification for samsung pulling this “value pack” nonsense. This isn’t about specs and memory, it’s about samsung knowing that having the latest software mean people keep their phones longer and not upgrade. I’ve never used a samsung but can see from a mile away that they have bad business practices.

        • 30014

          He’s not sounding like a sheep, he’s sounding like an ass.

      • 30014

        My original reply didn’t post for whatever reason but I’ll say this samsung can’t mess the nexus up because they can’t put their touchwiz garbage on it and the updates come directly from google. Oh and fyi I use a g2. Make sure you have something to say before you reply in the future.

        • Anonymous

          The Behold II is over 2 years old now and Samsungs first Android phone can be laid to rest now.  Think the G2 will get updated?  I mean its a Vanilla phone and all.

      • http://www.facebook.com/mark.schroeder1 Mark Schroeder

        The International version of the Galaxy S got 2 software upgrades yes but not the T-Mobile variants. They went from 2.1 to 2.2 and that’s it (unless you count the Samsung Galaxy S 4g which again only got 1 upgrade from 2.2 to 2.3). Samsung looks to be running a formula when it comes to phone upgrades. So you can have fun thinking that was just because it was the Behold 2 but all of us Behold 2 owners are laughing at those crying foul like this is just Samsung’s attempt to screw over just them.

  • Justin Jett

    I don’t know why people are crying over an update that wont be perfectly utilized for the Galaxy S (Vibrant/4G) phones. Samsung never said we’d be forever upgraded when we bought the Galaxy S. They told us we’d get 2.2 and that’s what we got.  4.0 is made to run on a faster processor with a bigger screen, AND with Touchwiz installed. If you don’t like that, get a Nexus and call it a day.  I mean I can’t trade my car in every time Acura comes out with a better model. Stop your whining and move on with life.

    • Anonymous

      Amen to that!  

      • Bruce Banner

        I guess justin and pimp are ignorant of the fact that the galaxy s has almost identical specs as the nexus s. If touchwiz is the problem then the solution is an easy one, remove the resource hogging skin and give the people a vanilla version of ics

        • Anonymous

          You would be ignorant to think that Samsung will remove Touch Wiz from anything and secondly, if you’re even mentioning “IF” Touch Wiz is the problem then you must believe that there is a possibility that Touch Wiz will have even a minor adverse affect on a full blown 4.0 update.

           The solution can’t be “kill all manufacturer skins” cuz that just won’t happen.  If a phone’s internals are made for a 19 month old OS that had way less features then you either need to drop support or water it down just like Apple has done with the 3GS.  Or hell throw the source code out there for the vultures.

        • Anonymous

          totally agree. lets also remember that ics replaced or improved any features 1st gen touchwiz could have added. and that a value pack wont add what ics can bring, (i.e. force gpu acceleration, screen capture, simplified menus) so no matter how you slice it, adding more crapware does not equal a better experience as samsung would like to think.

        • Chris Abbondanza

          if you didn’t want touchwiz on your phone then why did you buy a phone with touchwiz?

        • Anonymous

          Sent from my Windows Phone
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        • Anonymous

          I have personally never purchased an android phone that wasn’t vanilla. I went from the G1 to the Nexus One, then jumped ship to Windows Phone with the Dell Venue Pro.

          But I know people who have bought galaxy s variants, not knowing not what TouchWiz is. But honestly, that’s irrelevant. Those people are getting screwed.

          “Our skin is too bloated” shouldn’t be a valid excuse to withhold a better experience. HTC made Gingerbread work on the Desire by sacrificing bits of Sense. Samsung can’t say there is nothing worth sacrificing in TouchWiz to get ICS, at the risk of sound like idiots.

          I’d like to think all OEM’s know that at this point their UI doesn’t really offer anything compelling, but the fact is they don’t care; its all about money. It is much easier to make some more crapware and pretend it brings the phone up to today’s offerings then to remove some of the existing crap and make a better build.

          With all these UI’s, I’m waiting for an OEM to differentiate their products by being the only one to consistently offer pure android devices.

          Sorry for the rant.

        • Justin Jett

          I’m not ignorant of anything. In fact, I know what i’m buying anytime/every time I buy it. Technology is always improving.  If you let the salesperson at T-Mobile talk you into this phone a year after it came out, that’s your problem.  If your wallet is doing more of the talking than what you would like to have then that’s also your problem.  I’m not ranting over something that was never promised to me by Samsung.  They said we’d get 2.2 and we got it.  It took forever, but we got it.  Samsung NEVER mentioned future updates past that.  

          When you’re ignorant to what your purchasing, meaning you didn’t do your research first, whether you signed a new contract or not, you shouldn’t expect to get your hand held. 

          I still have, and am using, my Vibrant because there’s nothing I feel T-Mobile offers that can clearly beat it.  Samsung is not going to take Touchwiz off the Vibrant.  Furthermore, I would not want a phone running an OS that it can’t 100% fully support. Now that would be ignorant of the facts…right?

    • Anonymous

       ”4.0 is made to run on a faster processor with a bigger screen, AND with Touchwiz installed.” No, just no..”If you don’t like that, get a Nexus and call it a day.” When you consider it, the nexus s did get ics, with the same internals as the galaxy s. Touchwiz is lightweight too.
      “I mean I can’t trade my car in every time Acura comes out with a better model.” But they can make sure that the current one is working optimally. 

      I’m stuck with a contract on a phone that was supported for a good couple months, meanwhile the vibrant 4g gets gingerbread(vibrant did not). 
      I agree with a lot you said but this media storm caused by this ongoing problem is finally happening(should have been dealt with long ago.) Hopefully this will be settle with all manufactures, but samsung is a notable culprit of it.

  • Anonymous

    This is what happens when a company has its hands in too many product lines….some products are bound to suffer.  Hey Samsung, this isn’t a refrigerator or washing machine that doesn’t require your attention once you made the sale….get with it or get out of the phone business!!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/TuckerPeterson Tucker A. Peterson

    This is about money.  The Galaxy S is still on sale AND much cheaper right now so why would someone get a phone that won’t get the 100% upgrade?  If Samsung promised to update to ICS then what would be the point pf paying almost nothing to still get ICS?

    It’s $$ not hardware that’s the issue here.

  • Bhaynes9

    I purchased my Galaxy Tab 7 in August, 2011. The thought that it is considered outdated by the company after selling it to me 5 or 6 months ago is unacceptable. I can understand 18 months and possibly after 1 year but if you don’t plan to support devices for more than 6 months, don’t require 2 year contracts.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mark.schroeder1 Mark Schroeder

      Are you talking about the Tab 7 or the Tab 7 Plus? The Tab 7 has been out for over a year now. So if you bought it in August then it was outdated even then. If you have the Tab 7 plus then this announcement isn’t for you. It’s for the first generation. If your saying just because you bought it in August means that is the date the manufactures need to go by to determine OS upgrades well then…..

  • James O

    That’s why you have to buy a phone for what it can do today (unfortunately), not for what it can possibly do in a year or two.  Yeah it’s no fun but when we bought the phone we were never promised we would get every update ever made to every phone under Samsung’s line.
    I have the Vibrant and it never got 2.3, even though other Galaxy S models did get it.  The fact that the SGH-T959 got 2 updates in its lifetime is actually impressive.  It’s the cost of wanting the latest thing – no manufacturer or carrier wants to sell you one phone and be done with you – they want you in their store spending money every few months.  It’s called business.  Even Apple does it- they don’t want you on the 4, they want you to but the 4S even if it costs you $400 out of pocket (which some people have no problem with!).

    My question is when is the Galaxy Nexus coming to TMO?  There’s a slick device that should hopefully last a while (and by that I mean 4 months)…
    :)

  • Defcon

    Samsung and T-Mobile should at least keep their phones updated throughout the 2 year contract that most people got when buying the phone. There is allot of security issues and exploits that leave their customers vunerable. Not to mention hundreds of bug fixes to keep customers happy.

  • 30014

    This is the comment that didn’t show up when I 1st type it. Oh well it’s all good, I’ve made my point.

  • Nickts1989

    If it helps with battery life and allows for increased speeds a value pack sounds ok to me. But Im guessing one issue is hardware. But my question is, what about getting gingerbread on the samsung galaxy s (I’m talking about the Vibrant and the 3 other original ones).
    One thing I don’t see ICS as being necessary for older models is the facial recognition unlock (obviously because we don’t have ffc, unless you have the SGS 4G). I just want some kind of updates that help smooth out and keep the phone running like new.

  • Anonymous

    Galaxy S1 is already 18 months old phone.
    It was released at 2010. 6.
    There is no other company upgrade their year 2010 device for android 4.0(ICS) update.
    Samsung is only company who support year 2010 device upgrade.

    HTC, Sony Ericsson, Moto and All other Android manufactures are same.
    There is no upgarde for year 2010 models.

    1. Official HTC facebook
    facebook . com/notes/htc-uk/ice-cream-sandwich-android-40-updates-for-htc-handsets/300698153293006
    ; No ICS(android 4.0) upgrade for year 2010 model.

    2. Official Sony Ericsson Blog
    blogs.sonyericsson . com/products/2011/12/21/ice-cream-sandwich-coming-to-2011-xperia%E2%84%A2-smartphones-from-end-marchearly-april-2012/
    ; No ICS upgrade for year 2010 model.

    3. Official announcement from motorola
    motorola . com/blog/2011/12/07/motorola-update-on-ice-cream-sandwich/
    ; No ICS upgrade for year 2010 model.

    There is no other android OEM upgrade ICS for year 2010(and older) models.

    Samsung is only comapny who support ICS upgrade for 18 months old phone.
    In addition, They already serviced 2 times OS upgrade for Galaxy S1.

    • Anonymous

      Reread the article. They said a “Value Pack”. Not the whole OS update (Meaning only features are ported, not the OS). It’s the same thing as having nothing. Also, Samsung isn’t the only company to serviced 2 times. There are other companies who serviced more than 2 times with major updates. So stop your trolling.

      • Anonymous

        “It’s the same thing as having nothing.”  How is adding features to your phone the same as having nothing?  And he never said Samsung was the ONLY company to service a phone more than 2 times.  He is implying that 2 major updates is a big deal.  

        In the case of the Vibrant getting left behind compared to the SGS4G though that’s just sad and disappointing since they are the same damn phone.

    • Anonymous

      Galaxy s 4g was released this year bud….

      • Anonymous

        GS4G is just a 2010 phone with 2 extra features…  but you’re still right.

        • Anonymous

          And so are you. Sucks either way though…

  • Bkidko

    Not this crap again! We waited over half a year for 2.2 and then had to get it through kies to get it. Don’t get your hopes up people, it will be this time next year and you will still be hearing excuses.

  • Tylerdurden5275

    samsung ALWAYS does this.  they make a great product but then when an update comes out they make you buy a new piece of hardware from them to get it while everyone else is just loading the update.  they did the same thing with the vibrant 3G to galaxy s 4G.  a software update could have provided everything 4G did with an update

  • Brett

    They should just SELL the upates, at a low price, to keep their customers happy.

    • Anonymous

      You mean like Apple? Hell no. But I guess at least people could port it over.

  • tmo4life

    HAHA! THE COMMENTS MAKE ME LAUGH MY ASS OFF! I HAVE 6 TMO LINES AND I GET THE NEWEST SAMSUNG AND HTC DEVICES OUT EVERY FEW MONTHS! YOU WHINERS THAT ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT WHY YOUR 1 OR 2 YR OLD PHONES ARENT ON ICS NEED TO REALIZE< IF YOU WANT THE LATEST AND GREATEST THEN YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT!!! WOULD ANY PHONE COMPANY MAKE $$$ IF THE FIRST PHONE THEY MANUFACTURED WAS STILL IN USE RUNNING ICS! TECNOLOGY ROLLS FOREWARD EVERYDAY! YOU DONT GET MANUFACTURER UPDATES FOR YOUR CARS< TELEVISIONS< MICROWAVES, ETC ETC!  YOU STILL HAVE WHAT YOU INITIALLY PAID FOR! YOU CHEAP FUCKS ARE PROBABLY TYPING YOUR COMMENTS ON A 7 YR OLD LAPTOP BECAUSE YOU PAID $900 FOR IT SO YOU YHINK IT SHOULD LAST A GOD DAMN LIFETIME! NOTHING IN THE TECH WORLD STAYS FRESH, & DESIREABLE! YOU HAVE TO BUY THE NEW & THROW THE OLD ON EBAY FOR THE GUY THAT DOESNT CARE IF ITS CUTTING EDGE! AND GIVE THAT GUY A GREAT PRICE TOO, FOR BEING SO EASILY SATISFIED & HOLDING ON TO AS MUCH OF HIS HARD EARNED MONEY AS POSSIBLE FOR MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THINGS IN LIFE!

    • Bruce Banner

      L.O.Ling at you. I feel sorry for your mother and/or significant other. HA! HA!

      • tmo4life

        DONT TRY TO MAKE THINGS PERSONAL BECAUSE YOUR TOO CHEAP TO BUY MODERN TECHNOLOGY….GROW UP….IM 30 YRS OLD , I OPERATE A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS, I HAVE A BEATIFUL SUPPORTIVE WIFE AND TWO KIDS THAT ARE FANTASTIC. OH, AND IVE NEVER ASKED HER, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO SAY MY MOTHERS FAIRLY PROUD! STOP WHINING AND DROP 700 ON A GSM NEXUS IF YOU WANT ICS SO BAD……I OWN ONE AND ICS IS A LITTLE OVER RATED…IT NEEDS IRONED OUT, NONE THE LESS, IF ICS IS WHAT YOU WANT, THEN PRY OPEN THAT WALLET OF YOURS AND PAY FOR IT! HOW FAR DO YOU EXPECT SAMSUNG TO CARRY YOU FOR A ONE TIME , PROBABLY DISCOUNTED PURCHASE?

        • disturbed by you

          The phone isn’t discounted, its paid for in our 2yr contract. they want us to sign for 2 yrs they should keep the equipment up to date for the duration. Both the cell company and phone maker.

        • tmo4lifeisannoying

          Maybe you should buy a new laptop that doesn’t have the caps lock key stuck?

        • tmo4life

          WELL, I GUESS MY VIEW IS JUST PLAIN RIDICULOUS TO SUPPORT THE MANUFACTURER OF A DEVICE THAT YOU APPARENTLY ONCE LOVED….SO I GUESS YOU GUYS SHOULD ALL FORM A COALITION AND ORGANIZE A PROTEST AT SAMSUNG HEADQUARTERS DEMANDING “UPDATES”….BUT KEEP IN MIND & YOUR GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR POSTER BOARD & SHARPIES!!!! “PART WITH MY CASH…..MISSION ABORT, MISSION ABORT!!!”  IM THROUGH NOW, YOU MAY CONTINUE YOUR MEETING OF THE GREAT MINDS…..

      • tmo4life

        I WILL TELL YOU WHAT, TO SHOW HOW DECENT OF A GUY I AM BRUCE, GIVE ME AN ADDRESS/PO BOX AND I WILL PERSONALLY SHIP YOU AN UNLOCKED GSM GALAXY NEXUS, …..THATS AN HONEST AND SERIOUS OFFER…YOU DECIDE IF YOU LIKE IT BETTER THAN WHAT YOU CURRENTLY USE, AND IF YOU DO ITS YOURS TO KEEP….THERES NO MOTIVE AT ALL HERE, AND I WILL NOT EXPECT ANYTHING WHAT SO EVER IN RETURN.

        • Werner

          W.Pienaar
          Raragh
          Kingscourt
          Co.Cavan
          Ireland

          I will take one of those if they are going.My samsung ace is all i could afford so a nice shiney nexus would be apreciated.
          Cheers mate

    • Csobansk

      One of the most entertaining and honest posts I have ever read. People who bought a v6 mustang with 210 horsepower were not asking for an upgrade when the new v6 came out with 305 horsepower. “But the new phone has what? Oh hell no, Samsung where’s my upgrade boo hoo.” If you want it… Buy it… Can’t afford it, oh well, quit your bitching. A nation of whiners.

  • http://twitter.com/cjthadj18 CJ

    I think it should be only fair that the manufacturer support that phone for 2 years after its initial launch. Those who dive in first have to wait two years to upgrade anyways. 

  • Anonymous

    I have personally never purchased an android phone that wasn’t vanilla. I went from the G1 to the Nexus One, then jumped ship to Windows Phone with the Dell Venue Pro.

    But I know people who have bought galaxy s variants, not knowing not what TouchWiz is. But honestly, that’s irrelevant. Those people are getting screwed.

    “Our skin is too bloated” shouldn’t be a valid excuse to withhold a better experience. HTC made Gingerbread work on the Desire by sacrificing bits of Sense. Samsung can’t say there is nothing worth sacrificing in TouchWiz to get ICS, at the risk of sound like idiots.

    I’d like to think all OEM’s know that at this point their UI doesn’t really offer anything compelling, but the fact is they don’t care; its all about money. It is much easier to make some more crapware and pretend it brings the phone up to today’s offerings then to remove some of the existing crap and make a better build.

    With all these UI’s, I’m waiting for an OEM to differentiate their products by being the only one to consistently offer pure android devices.

    Sorry for the rant.

  • Kevin Kerr

    This is total BS, Samsung. The Galaxy S has exactly the same hardware as the Nexus S. It’s not that hard to port over the ROM.

    This “value pack” better have hardware acceleration…