What Will Happen Now That T-Mobile Doesn’t Have The iPhone?

It’s October 4th and we all know what that means, iPhone Day!  Well, I’m sure you have heard already but T-Mobile will NOT be receiving an iPhone this year.  Big win for the Android faithful, but what does this mean for the carrier on a whole?

 It’s a quick opinion, but let’s see what we can figure out here.  Apple is one of the only major stakeholders that have not voiced their opinion on the merger, but they have definitely showed their cards with this move.  Not allowing an iPhone on the 4th major carrier effectively shows that they don’t think it is worth it.  It is not worth the small cost to them, even if they will be receiving increased revenue.

More so, they are even showing that they don’t have faith in T-Mobile, and especially with their future.  They believe that AT&T is going to swallow them whole, and maybe it will be better for them that way.  The new iPhone is even a world phone, compatible with AT&T, Verizon and SPRINT, and they still don’t want to include T-Mobile in the fun.  Maybe they are waiting for T-Mobile to be swallowed whole, allowing them to make the real iPhone 5 4G capable on the three main players.  They would need to make a different device for each carrier, but that’s not entirely surprising and is surely within the next evolution of the phone we love to hate, or hate to love depending on your standpoint (for you, probably the former).

The worst part is that this isn’t even the upgrade that everyone was banking on.  It is the same old iPhone, just faster.  Sure, there are other good things with the upgrade, but nothing like the upgrades you see with Android phones.  This evolution of the iPhone took over a year to upgrade, and they only accomplished what Android phone manufacturers have done in 6 months.  The simple fact is, and back to the main point, that people will still flock to buy this phone, because of it being “magical.”  It’s great branding, and something that Android phones miss the mark on, but being the only major carrier without ‘magic’ kind of pushes you aside.

Let’s turn this around though.  Maybe this wasn’t Apple.  Apple could have gone to T-Mobile and been like, “we want the iPhone on all major carriers so we can dominate the market.”  Chances are, that didn’t happen (they will still dominate the market, just without T-Mobile).  So, T-Mobile didn’t put the effort in.  They didn’t express the interest (read: money) to get the iPhone on their network.  This is a huge misstep.

Yes, Android is great, and I love that T-Mobile is standing behind the OS that they helped expand, but simply ‘talking’ to clients against the iPhone won’t cut it.  People will leave, and less people will be adopting Android, as well as WP7 and Blackberry for that matter.  It’s a shame, but the sheer demand for iPhones is going to explode this holiday season, and there isn’t much standing in their way.

Simply putting the iPhone on T-Mobile may not be able to save them, there is no way of knowing, but not getting it is the worst mistake that T-Mobile could make.  They know the demand, they know how many people love it and use Edge just to have it on T-Mobile, and they know that people will leave for it.  They are allowing this to happen, bowing down, throwing in the towel, giving up.  The fact that T-Mobile is now the only major carrier without an iPhone is the biggest argument FOR the merger, and it is a significant one.  It will be very difficult for T-Mobile to compete now, and maybe that is exactly how they want it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • http://www.facebook.com/bellanca Cecilia Ernst

    Part of me thinks its a horrible idea for them to not pick up the iphone.  

    But literally just got done reading an article on CNN money about how some people think that picking up the iphone will be the end of sprint.  Apparently Sprint has had to make a huge financial gamble to carry the iphone, and possibly they bit off more than they can chew.   For one they have to purchase 30.5 million iphones whether or not they are able to sell them to customers.  The iphones are price fixed by apple, so its not like they can price them competitively with other smartphones if needed.  The Wall Street Journal says the deal could cost Sprint $20 billion.  

    So after reading that article I’m on the fence.  I feel that on one had T-mo could be missing out on a huge market of people, yet on the other hand if this is how they can keeep their prices down and stay competitive in some way then it is a good decision.  I for one will not be getting an iphone, even if it magically shows up on T-mo on iphone day. 

  • R Akiyama

    T-mobile customer of 7 years, going to leave this month for Sprint.
    Adios.

    • tm

      you have extra cash to spend?

  • Sorry2breakit2you

    Inside source please fire the man who gives you your misguided
    information. If you haven’t noticed, tmobile is the only major carrier
    without the iPhone. Why you might ask? Because T-Mobile USA will cease
    to exist after the first quarter of next year. After everything is set
    and done AT&T will have to dilute some of their assets for the
    merger to be approved. DT, is looking to sell Tmobile USA, now a
    troubled asset, as they keep loosing customers quarter after quarter.
    Whether people like it or not, whether it’s AT&T or another
    tech/wireless giant, tmobile won’t be here for too long. Apple will not
    make a hspa+ 42 megs iPhone because the next iPhone will be a LTE
    compatible device. Why do you think sprint is now trying to spread their
    LTE footprints through light squared? Apple is creating a “universal”
    iPhone, one that can be used globally with any carrier, why would they
    create one specifically for tmobile USA? Doesn’t make much sense
    especially when the parent company wants to get rid of the rotten apple.
    Food for thought. And it wasn’t tmobile’s CEO that said that, it was
    their coo.

    • Anonymous

      your unbiased logic and opinions are  refreshing!

  • Sorry2breakit2you

    Inside source please fire the man who gives you your misguided
    information. If you haven’t noticed, tmobile is the only major carrier
    without the iPhone. Why you might ask? Because T-Mobile USA will cease
    to exist after the first quarter of next year. After everything is set
    and done AT&T will have to dilute some of their assets for the
    merger to be approved. DT, is looking to sell Tmobile USA, now a
    troubled asset, as they keep loosing customers quarter after quarter.
    Whether people like it or not, whether it’s AT&T or another
    tech/wireless giant, tmobile won’t be here for too long. Apple will not
    make a hspa+ 42 megs iPhone because the next iPhone will be a LTE
    compatible device. Why do you think sprint is now trying to spread their
    LTE footprints through light squared? Apple is creating a “universal”
    iPhone, one that can be used globally with any carrier, why would they
    create one specifically for tmobile USA? Doesn’t make much sense
    especially when the parent company wants to get rid of the rotten apple.
    Food for thought. And it wasn’t tmobile’s CEO that said that, it was
    their coo.

  • Derek 21

    What are some of you people talking about? Tmobile wants the damn iPhone at the end of the day apple didn’t go for it, and David I think some of the other negativity is pointless as well because u pointed out it’s an upgraded 4. For all consumers with common sense with all this litigation going on it wasn’t good business for either to have the iPhone. Tmo will inherit device next year after more then likely merge. Almost would be a long shot but it’s awfully strange there is no iPhone 5 while merger is looming. Sprint killed their argument because iPhone will drive up their customer base, stopping their competition blah blah against merger. If u really want to leave a company for an iPhone your an idiot it’s been out for years now should have been left. Don’t cry wolf about a company letting you down, when at the end of the day it was apple who had yall overhyped for a year and change for a phone they didn’t even come uyt with lol. It’s only worth it at AT&T when they let u get one long as u renew, the other companies no

  • Johnmiller

    Or maybe AT&T has paid Apple money to not release the phone on T-Mobile… 

  • Don

    iphone or no iphone it does’nt really make a difference

  • Jerryt

    Dumb article that is purely speculative. I’d expect better from tmonews.

    • Anonymous

      it’s not dumb at all.  It makes a lot of sense actually.  The writer is seeing things from a business perspective.  He’s well-rounded enough to see both sides and came to a real conclusion.  Just because his opinions are based on logic  unlike your fanaticism over the T-Mobile brand  doesn’t make it a dumb article.  I think you were faced with an inconvenient truth that the writer illustrated to you and quite simply, you didn’t like it.  In fact, you didn’t even take the time to justify your stance on it further.  All you said was that it’s a “dumb article”.  What “better” do you expect from this guy? to lie? to paint a phony picture? 

      Why should he? it’s unprofessional to do such a thing. Sure its just a blog but the guy clearly has integrity and honor to post something like this on a T-mobile fan site.

      Did you even read all of it?? his last paragraph even states that the iphone may not have been enough to save the company.  I’m not sure why you’ve chosen to be so negative towards the article aside from it hitting a personal sour note but it’s a relevant article to the t-mobile community.

      • tm

        Business perspective not talking about $$$? Article says: “So, T-Mobile didn’t put the effort in.  They didn’t express the interest
        (read: money) to get the iPhone on their network.  This is a huge
        misstep.”
        That’s an opinion I do not share. Dumb and speculative is a good way to say it, OK with me!

        • Anonymous

          Business perspective is money, MR. tm.  They clearly don’t have the backing from their parent company and Apple needs to ensure it’s worth their while to sell it on t-mobile.  T-Mobile , not by fault of their own, may not have actually put in enough effort ( read: money) to make it happen.  The finger here can clearly be pointed at DT I.M.H.O.  You don’t have to share any one elses opinion but at least arrive at it using a sincere and unbiased logic.

        • tm

          Is a good argument that TMo would make more $$ with the IPhone but I think it’s better they did not, because I think they should do better having cheaper service, and their service is good compared with Sprint at least so why complain? TMo loses money because of too much debt (old story) and because DT stockholders would get rich selling TMo to ATT. Happens in every damn tech industry at some point.Go buy stock in DT while the market is down. I’m glad tmo has no IPhone I think the fuss is stupid.

        • Anonymous

          cheaper service and the business model you propose is not ideal for profitability.  This is an industry, not a charity and things are always unfair like you pointed.  You as an individual may be glad they have no iphone, but Ask many churning customers who are fleeing to sprint because of this phone what they think? very different story, sir.

        • tm

          Fleeing to Sprint? I would maybe but I hear the service is not so good! Now can I get a free high end phone, $50.00 unlimited for 2, and 15 extra for 2 more; a close-to unlimited family plan for $150? for 4? no…

        • tm

          Oh yeah if you think cheaper service is not a good model, are TD bank (formerly Commerce bank) and Capital One, doing poorly? how about Planet Fitness?

        • Anonymous

          cheaper service and the business model you propose is not ideal for profitability.  This is an industry, not a charity and things are always unfair like you pointed.  You as an individual may be glad they have no iphone, but Ask many churning customers who are fleeing to sprint because of this phone what they think? very different story, sir.

      • tm

        Business perspective not talking about $$$? Article says: “So, T-Mobile didn’t put the effort in.  They didn’t express the interest
        (read: money) to get the iPhone on their network.  This is a huge
        misstep.”
        That’s an opinion I do not share. Dumb and speculative is a good way to say it, OK with me!

  • Oreo

    Dont worry ya’ll the New Nexus should save all of ya’ll from apples mind control.

  • Oreo

    Dont worry ya’ll the New Nexus should save all of ya’ll from apples mind control.

  • Anonymous

    There is a reason why deutsche telecom is sure that the merger will happen. If the iphone would have arrived for us then it would have brought waves of people through the store. Unlimited TTW for 99 bucks for two Iphones would have saved T-mobile. That’s not what they want though. They can’t show the government that they are profitable and a major competitor. They want to lose customers so the merger holds a stronger argument. By us not getting the iphone will lead to more deacts and less activations. That’s what they want.

  • jarjon76

    LOTS of panic over T-Mobile not getting the iphone. While it would have been great for T-Mobile, it’s not an indication one way or another of what’s going to happen to T-Mo in the future. To think that is silly and over simplifying things. DK clearly wants to rid itself of T-Mobile USA and if this AT&T “thing” doesn’t go through, they find another way–iphone or no iphone.

    I sincerely hope you “gloom and doom” folks are like this with your everyday life. If so, get help and get it now.

  • W3m1975

    lol what does apple have to do with the survival of a company? You may be slightly infatuated with the os David but really? I can’t believe anyone listening to the cook guy prattle on about how great there products are then display improvements windows devices and androids both displayed more than 12 months ago.This speech shows the company is reaching the end of its rope on innovation and is now just trying to sell another lackluster product. Lets face it, no 4G no real smart phone innovation just another I phone 4 with a different case.

    • Anonymous

      Apple has a lot to do with the survival of the company actually.  Sprint has said it in the past, it’s hard to compete without it.  It may not be the best phone but people love it and the company behind it.  It controls a lot of mind-share and is considered affordable and premium.  

      Furthermore, Apple is not reaching the end of the innovation rope.  This is how their prodcut and design cycle work.  They did this with the 3G and the 3Gs, and many said the same thing back then like you just did about their lack of innovation and they went on to sell millions upon millions of 3G’s and 3GS’s.  The innards seem beefed up too, Check out how it stacks against its competitors… it does pretty well from spec sheet to spec sheet.

      I’m not sure if you are familiar within the world of business, but i’m in engineering sales and trust me Apple is highly regarded and is a thorn to their competitors…

      Also, THERE IS NO REAL 4G.  T-Mobile surely doesnt have real 4G! it’s simply a marketing ploy used by all the carriers.  LTE is a 4G technology but no company that i’m aware of is using it at true 4G speeds.  T-Mobile doesn’t seem to have a technological edge anymore and their umts frequencies (1700/2100) are quite odd and i can see why apple may not have wanted to take the time or effort.  

    • Wilma Flintstone

      DAVID DIDN’T WRITE THE ARTICLE!!!  Read the Author!!!

  • VZWRep

    Lol..so glad i stopped working for a dying company…tmobile never pays up to get the best of the best..i read an article, sprint put in 20 BILLION to get an iphone on their network…it shows their commitment to the wireless game. Tmobile will always be a lame 4th in the wireless game or nothing at all.

  • Liman007

    well well well, this sure is interesting,especially for me. i asked t-mobile for a full discount for the upcoming GS II and two year contract to lock me up they said no. now that i know the iphone 4s is gonna be a world phone on sprint network, I’m seriously thinking about switching to sprint even though i know for a fact the GS II is a better phone than iphone 4s. bad decision t-mobile,bad bad bad…..

    • JT

      I got on the Sprint network thinking “Wow unlimited data”! That lasted for about 2 1/2 weeks. It was terrible. I lived in supposedly one of their best areas for 3G and 4G service. So I had my phone checked out at one of the local Sprint stores then they verified that there were no towers down in my area. I got one bar and roaming throughout town. Went back to TMO and got a free phone of my choice for switching back. I know nobody wants to pay overage fees with Verizon and AT&T but Sprint was brutal. The bad thing, there’s about to be less competition.

  • Liman007

    well well well, this sure is interesting,especially for me. i asked t-mobile for a full discount for the upcoming GS II and two year contract to lock me up they said no. now that i know the iphone 4s is gonna be a world phone on sprint network, I’m seriously thinking about switching to sprint even though i know for a fact the GS II is a better phone than iphone 4s. bad decision t-mobile,bad bad bad…..

  • Johnny

    Tmo will do just fine without the iphone 4s.  while it would be a nice to have to reduce churn from the iphone faithful, the latest 4G handset selection is competitive both from a pricing and capability perspective.  Sprint has crippled itself with the iphone deal.  Dont be surprised when TMO takes out sprint in a year as an acquirer.

    • Littlesis1774

      I don’t think they will because if the merger does not go though DT will take the break up fee and invest Germany and expanding  T-Mobile in Europe. DT will no longer invest in the US market. T-mobile USA needs iphone and AT&T

  • Johnny

    Tmo will do just fine without the iphone 4s.  while it would be a nice to have to reduce churn from the iphone faithful, the latest 4G handset selection is competitive both from a pricing and capability perspective.  Sprint has crippled itself with the iphone deal.  Dont be surprised when TMO takes out sprint in a year as an acquirer.

  • tm

    I would much rather see my low cost service than see TMobile get the IPhone!!!
    Did you consider that they both have lowest cost and no Apple?
    Is a connection and it should STAY THAT WAY. please so I can afford a new phone.

  • SMH

    wwhoooooo caressssss…the iphone is the same damn thing every year and idiots keep buying it because we have made it a gatdamn status symbol…so apple didnt kill T-Mo because you cant kill what is already dead…Deutsch Telecom did that already…nevertheless R.I.P T-mo I knew you well

  • SMH

    wwhoooooo caressssss…the iphone is the same damn thing every year and idiots keep buying it because we have made it a gatdamn status symbol…so apple didnt kill T-Mo because you cant kill what is already dead…Deutsch Telecom did that already…nevertheless R.I.P T-mo I knew you well

    • http://tmonews.com David

      I’m seriously tired of people calling iPhone buyers idiots in the comments. The next time it happens the banhammer comes out. Respect people regardless of their buying decisions.

      • Jstoned12

        i feel you but ppl always take crap when we don’t buy the iPhone so it goes both way….. they say we got a shitty phone, i never liked the iPhone personally but it is a great phone, i just like android better, if you want the iphone buy it if that’s what makes you happy

      • Iphoneidiots

        David, go Ban people who cares, Ban me if you want too. You are a tech blog and your existence depends on people coming to your site. Heck I hope the merger goes through just so I can see the end of tmonews and your retarded antics. You’re acting lame.

        • http://tmonews.com David

          Ok, fair to think anything you want. If keeping the discussion civilized is acting lame, then I am all for that. If you want to see the end of the site so bad, why do you keep visiting?

      • Caliborn1

        The iphone is more than comparing features.  Its syncing with itunes which everybody, practically everybody has. Millions now have ipads. Its ease of use, its amazing apps.  Go buy a movie or tv show on itunes and try to bring it on your android phone, cant….
        I was a little confused with one thing. Airplay already exists and they talked like it was a new feature…  I got Airplay to work with my mytouch…photos, videos…

      • Caliborn1

        The iphone is more than comparing features.  Its syncing with itunes which everybody, practically everybody has. Millions now have ipads. Its ease of use, its amazing apps.  Go buy a movie or tv show on itunes and try to bring it on your android phone, cant….
        I was a little confused with one thing. Airplay already exists and they talked like it was a new feature…  I got Airplay to work with my mytouch…photos, videos…

  • Anonymous

    UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); 
    GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz) Those are the frequency specs that Apple posted. I could be wrong but don’t a couple of those numbers look familiar? If you want an iphone that bad wait for it to be announced or buy an unlocked one.

    • http://tmonews.com David

      In order to get the phone to work on T-Mobile 3G/4G you would need the 1700 band. Without that, all unlocked phones are EDGE only.

      • Caliborn1

        So its still the same as the old iphone unlocked like I used? 2G or Edge is horrible. Put  a nail in it. You cant stream music, cant stream radio stations, cant get you tube, download apps, etc. etc. except on wifi. I want an iphone for numerous reasons, but minimum $85 per month ATT vs.  $60 on TMO is tough to accept, especially with limited talk of 450

      • Caliborn1

        So its still the same as the old iphone unlocked like I used? 2G or Edge is horrible. Put  a nail in it. You cant stream music, cant stream radio stations, cant get you tube, download apps, etc. etc. except on wifi. I want an iphone for numerous reasons, but minimum $85 per month ATT vs.  $60 on TMO is tough to accept, especially with limited talk of 450

    • Alberto Quintero

      you will only get EDGE with tmobile & 3G with AT&T. tmobile 3G need 1700 & 2100

  • Meagan

    Tmobile is alive and well in other countries, and joyfully selling iPhones. Its TmobileUSA that chose to not sell the iPhone. TmobileUSA didn’t bank on themselves to handle an influx of sales, commissions, and lines out the door had they decided to join the rest of the world with adding a iPhone to their TmobileUSA lineup.

    At this point, its smarter to purchase a AT&T compatible iPhone to use on Tmobile, so that you can sell it later if you change your mind. AT&T won’t be going downhill anytime soon.

    Edge isn’t bad if you are near wifi most of the day. Besides, Tmobile 4G isn’t so fast here in most parts of Los Angeles, so I might as well be on Edge.

  • Meagan

    Tmobile is alive and well in other countries, and joyfully selling iPhones. Its TmobileUSA that chose to not sell the iPhone. TmobileUSA didn’t bank on themselves to handle an influx of sales, commissions, and lines out the door had they decided to join the rest of the world with adding a iPhone to their TmobileUSA lineup.

    At this point, its smarter to purchase a AT&T compatible iPhone to use on Tmobile, so that you can sell it later if you change your mind. AT&T won’t be going downhill anytime soon.

    Edge isn’t bad if you are near wifi most of the day. Besides, Tmobile 4G isn’t so fast here in most parts of Los Angeles, so I might as well be on Edge.

  • http://twitter.com/PaulHarrisonPro Paul Harrison

    Anyone who wants an iPhone on T-Mobile is a racist. There, I said it. Also, didn’t Hitler also want an iPhone?

    OK, with the troll over, now that I’ve annoyed the TmoNews team, the answer is no, Apple hasn’t done any such thing. The damage was done by AT&T, and quite honestly:

    1. There is no phone in existence whose availability is absolutely critical to any mobile operator.

    2. T-Mobile is suffering a range of issues right now that will not be fixed until years after the AT&T debacle is over. T-Mobile is not in a position to spend the kind of cash that Apple demands; it’s reputation and values have suffered greatly as it’s tried to align itself with the AT&T way of doing things; and nobody has any confidence in it existing this time next year.

    I understand TmoNews being interested in the whole iPhone thing. You guys like it, you’re disappointed it’s not available. But quite honestly, the iPhone isn’t even on the radar of most people, they’re quite happy to get an Android phone, it’s the features they want, not the brand. In the longer term, if T-Mobile survives AT&T’s attack, then they have an “easy” solution available to them anyway – put 3G on their 1900MHz band where they have the spectrum to do so. The more they migrate to 3G phones, the less GSM capacity will be needed in PCS anyway. Once that’s done, people can buy the unlocked versions, and, well, T-Mobile can even subsidize those if they want.

    For now though, let’s see if T-Mobile survives the AT&T embrace. That’s the fight that needs to be fought.

    • Anonymous

      I love how you are using the words “survive” and “attack” to describe the attempted merger.  DT accepted the offer lmao.  If anything i think its fair to say “suicide” on t-mobiles behalf.  T-mobile was not victimized in the eyes of realism. They were looking for an easy way out which once again is more in-line with “suicide”.  

      Your idea of purposely restructuring their spectrum usages would cost a lot of money and probably wouldn’t work mainly because of their long term plans.  They are trying to grow and not just stay treading water.  Putting 3G on their 1900 mhz band wouldn’t be a long-term solution.

      I’m also not sure if you were generalizing the t-mobile community’s interest in the device or the entire populations interest in iPhone but i think it’s safe to say there is a healthy, and strong interest in it overall.  Enough for a company to bet a lot of money on it.

      On a positive note, good post!!

  • Anonymous

    I strongly believe that if it were not for the merger, Tmobile would have the iPhone.  The fact is that Att and Tmobile both have to show they belive the merger will go through and that the investment in getting the iPhone would be a waste if it happens because Att already has the iPhone and would thereby make it available to all assimilated Tmobile cusotmers.

    • Anonymous

      Potentially, however there is still that element of technological compatibility.  T-mo uses very different aws 3g spectrum for their 3G/4G implementation.  What you say may have a significant role in the lack of iphone on the network but i don’t think its the sole reason.

    • Anonymous

      Potentially, however there is still that element of technological compatibility.  T-mo uses very different aws 3g spectrum for their 3G/4G implementation.  What you say may have a significant role in the lack of iphone on the network but i don’t think its the sole reason.

    • Littlesis1774

      The merger needs to go though now. I don’t think they have much of a choice anymore because the other buyers might not want it now. I think T-Mobile USA lost too much value and the customers are leaving in drones.

      • joseph slemp

        Hell no to the merger. It’s the worst possible decision in terms of consumer interests. More competition = better for consumers.

        • Littlesis1774

          T-mobile won’t be able to complete against Verizon, AT&T and Sprint if the merger does not go though

  • Ghostman34

    Not having the iPhone doesn’t mean anything for T-Moble. Not going to hurt at all. There’s still going to be the customers coming signing up or extending existing contracts. I don’t need to stinkin iFone at all. Yes, I’m an Adroid user..but have always been anti-apple-anything or anti-i-anything. Just too overrated.
    Keep your darn eyePhone!

    • Littlesis1774

      actually it does since people been leaving left and right every year. It going to get worse since Sprint has it now

  • Ghostman34

    Not having the iPhone doesn’t mean anything for T-Moble. Not going to hurt at all. There’s still going to be the customers coming signing up or extending existing contracts. I don’t need to stinkin iFone at all. Yes, I’m an Adroid user..but have always been anti-apple-anything or anti-i-anything. Just too overrated.
    Keep your darn eyePhone!

  • Hamster

    Considering the bet that Sprint had to make on the iPhone, I’m not surprised that T-Mobile didn’t do it. With the potential sale looming, they were in no position to make the same kind of commitment to the iPhone that Sprint did ($20 billion over 6 years I think is what I heard?).

  • Hamster

    Considering the bet that Sprint had to make on the iPhone, I’m not surprised that T-Mobile didn’t do it. With the potential sale looming, they were in no position to make the same kind of commitment to the iPhone that Sprint did ($20 billion over 6 years I think is what I heard?).

  • ogopogo

    Wow! Some of the comments on here make me shake my head.

    This is not an article about which OS is better (iOS vs. Android vs. WP7 vs. RIM). It is a clear summation of how the iPhone could have helped T-Mobile.

    Just as we’ve been pushing the idea that MORE carriers drive competition and benefit the consumer, the same holds true for the OS market. iOS and Android both push each other and we, as the consumer benefit.

    Please stop with the iPhone-bashing/Android-bashing/WP7-bashing. It isn’t helping, and does not contribute to a meaningful discussion.

    • jarjon76

      You’re not going to get a meaningful discussion on the internet.

    • http://tmonews.com David

      Truth…

  • ogopogo

    Wow! Some of the comments on here make me shake my head.

    This is not an article about which OS is better (iOS vs. Android vs. WP7 vs. RIM). It is a clear summation of how the iPhone could have helped T-Mobile.

    Just as we’ve been pushing the idea that MORE carriers drive competition and benefit the consumer, the same holds true for the OS market. iOS and Android both push each other and we, as the consumer benefit.

    Please stop with the iPhone-bashing/Android-bashing/WP7-bashing. It isn’t helping, and does not contribute to a meaningful discussion.

  • Plankton

    Dbeont be so sad Dave.

    Apple will surprise with an iphone5. Trust me.

    By the way, how much holiday revenue do you think they are giving up with 1 in 5 Americans unemployed.

    Get real.

    The crabby patty formulary will be mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Bob

    Nexus Prime or iPhone 4S….? Oh wait…TMO doesnt have either!

    • Anonymous

      nexus prime isnt even out yet, so no one has it,
      so cry somewhere else

      • Littlesis1774

        Verizon is the only one getting it

  • Bob

    Nexus Prime or iPhone 4S….? Oh wait…TMO doesnt have either!

  • Ggf44

    Tmobile will lose thousands upon thousands of subscribers on oct 14

  • Yallpussy

    YALL SOME BITCHES HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • Plankton

    Can you say they dont care?? Half of the ones that leave will have spent money on bricks and will pay the ETF. LOL all the way to the bank.

  • Anonymous

    I know when my contract is up I’m gone. not because of them not getting the iphone, but because of the uncertainty of this whole buy out thing, and them not having any plans for lte should the takeover not go through. This eagerness of trying to get rid of tmo usa also leaves a bad taste, and shows there will be no more investing in tmo usa. so, i will be leaving this sinking ship before it hits the bottom.

    • Mrcoolgarcia

      take me with you lol ,
      i will be doing the same im merging to the LTE network , i only stayed with t mo cus of the great price and service but im with you i hate the limbo and our network ias not gonna get any faster, 

    • Spanky

      In light of a long-lasting data slowdown in my area, I will most likely be leaving T-Mobile as well. Data became extremely slow in my area and has stayed that way for the past couple of months. T-Mobile keeps saying that they are working on it, but I haven’t seen any improvements at all. The recent decline in customer service is also a major contributing factor, but I can deal with it, as long as I get 4G speeds that my neighborhood is supposed to have (according to T-Mobile’s coverage map). Unless T-Mobile rectifies the data issue, I may have to give Verizon a shot when the Droid Prime comes out.

    • Spanky

      In light of a long-lasting data slowdown in my area, I will most likely be leaving T-Mobile as well. Data became extremely slow in my area and has stayed that way for the past couple of months. T-Mobile keeps saying that they are working on it, but I haven’t seen any improvements at all. The recent decline in customer service is also a major contributing factor, but I can deal with it, as long as I get 4G speeds that my neighborhood is supposed to have (according to T-Mobile’s coverage map). Unless T-Mobile rectifies the data issue, I may have to give Verizon a shot when the Droid Prime comes out.

    • Spanky

      In light of a long-lasting data slowdown in my area, I will most likely be leaving T-Mobile as well. Data became extremely slow in my area and has stayed that way for the past couple of months. T-Mobile keeps saying that they are working on it, but I haven’t seen any improvements at all. The recent decline in customer service is also a major contributing factor, but I can deal with it, as long as I get 4G speeds that my neighborhood is supposed to have (according to T-Mobile’s coverage map). Unless T-Mobile rectifies the data issue, I may have to give Verizon a shot when the Droid Prime comes out.

    • Spanky

      In light of a long-lasting data slowdown in my area, I will most likely be leaving T-Mobile as well. Data became extremely slow in my area and has stayed that way for the past couple of months. T-Mobile keeps saying that they are working on it, but I haven’t seen any improvements at all. The recent decline in customer service is also a major contributing factor, but I can deal with it, as long as I get 4G speeds that my neighborhood is supposed to have (according to T-Mobile’s coverage map). Unless T-Mobile rectifies the data issue, I may have to give Verizon a shot when the Droid Prime comes out.

    • Spanky

      In light of a long-lasting data slowdown in my area, I will most likely be leaving T-Mobile as well. Data became extremely slow in my area and has stayed that way for the past couple of months. T-Mobile keeps saying that they are working on it, but I haven’t seen any improvements at all. The recent decline in customer service is also a major contributing factor, but I can deal with it, as long as I get 4G speeds that my neighborhood is supposed to have (according to T-Mobile’s coverage map). Unless T-Mobile rectifies the data issue, I may have to give Verizon a shot when the Droid Prime comes out.

    • Anonymous

      ditto. Used-to-be-great customer service and grandfathered in plans aren’t enough to keep me anymore. I’m doing more travelling and if you even slightly get off the interstate in the Seattle area you’re down to EDGE and if you head into a rural area – goodbye data altogether. It’s not worth saving $10 a month for unreliable data. Especially since they’re now throttling as well. I’ve been with tmobile since voicestream days but it looks like the German masters want to kill it.

    • Anonymous

      ditto. Used-to-be-great customer service and grandfathered in plans aren’t enough to keep me anymore. I’m doing more travelling and if you even slightly get off the interstate in the Seattle area you’re down to EDGE and if you head into a rural area – goodbye data altogether. It’s not worth saving $10 a month for unreliable data. Especially since they’re now throttling as well. I’ve been with tmobile since voicestream days but it looks like the German masters want to kill it.

  • Anonymous

    its ok T-Mobile Android/Google got your back.samsung/google gonna reveal the Nexus Prime hopefully for t-mobile october 14th(hopefully).

  • Anonymous

    The big killer is that this is a HSPA + phone . This phone could have gotten new customers from all the other providers over to T-Mobile . I just when from really hating AT&T to really hating Apple and AT&T .

  • Ddde

    The iphone 4s is “4G” by T-mobiles standards, 14.4mbps
    Same as the My Touch 4G and countless others…

    • Duranimmanuel

      No its accualy 20 not 14 get your facts right

      • http://tmonews.com David

        His facts are right, only Samsung has HSPA+ speeds of 21 on T-Mobile. All other “4G” phones are are 14.4 until the release of the Galaxy S II and HTC Amaze 4G.

  • Guest

    Why would T-Mobile pony up $10 or $20 billion to get the iPhone? It wouldn’t get many more customers. 1) More people buy Android phones than iPhones. 2) People who buy iPhones already are ok with paying more money for equal or lesser product, so they are a perfect fit for AT&T or Verizon already.

    • Littlesis1774

      That is not true since no android phone has beaten the iphone.  T-mobile is now the sinking the ship

  • Dfgg23

    It doesn’t really matter if the IPhone is a better phone than other Androids counterparts, T-mobile will lose more subscribers following this news and they are not in a position where they can afford to lose more customers. Fewer customers means less revenue and less revenue means they will have to make cuts. Less investments in the network and customer service. I can not see anything else but their overall service degrading.

  • Vim

    I don’t see what the IPhone S does that Android doesn’t already do.  Most of Tmobile’s customers that are obsessed with the IPhone have already left. This article comes across as a bit too Chicken Little for my taste.   I’m far more concerned with the damage that AT&T’s buyout is doing to T-Mobile, and with how Sprint plans to avoid bankruptcy after committing to buy far more IPhones then it is likely to ever sell.  I’m not the least bit surprised that Sprint’s stock price plummeted after news of the deal hit the net. As a non-iphone user, I’m not interested in seeing my rate go up just so my carrier can afford the subsidy that Apple is demanding.

  • CRT24

    I think all of us that work for T-Mobile had hoped we would not be the only carrier without the Iphone just for the simple fact of just being able to offer the device to customers who only want an IPhone for whatever reason. But if you look at what Sprint had to pay to have this on their network then that is very telling as to why T-Mobile didn’t get it this go around…..Sprint has basically mortgaged their future on one device and remember that as long as ATT has had the IPhone they have about 17 million of them on their network which is almost 20% of their overall customer base…..with a commitment to purchase 31 million devices for 20 billion whether they sell or not, even if Sprint sold all of them that would be almost 60% of their customer base…..not realistic to think they can sell that many devices and even when they do they are losing $500.00 in subsidy for everyone they sell! Given that they are already losing millions, don’t expect Sprint to be in the black anytime soon as this deal will further exacerbate that situation. Phillip Humm remarked that we didn’t get the IPhone this time around because T-Mobile’s aws frequency is a “niche frequency” and Apple did not want to build a phone with that frequency included…time will tell if that is true or not but I will hate to see the price tag for it when it is made available in early 2012 as has been suggested it will be.

  • CRT24

    I think all of us that work for T-Mobile had hoped we would not be the only carrier without the Iphone just for the simple fact of just being able to offer the device to customers who only want an IPhone for whatever reason. But if you look at what Sprint had to pay to have this on their network then that is very telling as to why T-Mobile didn’t get it this go around…..Sprint has basically mortgaged their future on one device and remember that as long as ATT has had the IPhone they have about 17 million of them on their network which is almost 20% of their overall customer base…..with a commitment to purchase 31 million devices for 20 billion whether they sell or not, even if Sprint sold all of them that would be almost 60% of their customer base…..not realistic to think they can sell that many devices and even when they do they are losing $500.00 in subsidy for everyone they sell! Given that they are already losing millions, don’t expect Sprint to be in the black anytime soon as this deal will further exacerbate that situation. Phillip Humm remarked that we didn’t get the IPhone this time around because T-Mobile’s aws frequency is a “niche frequency” and Apple did not want to build a phone with that frequency included…time will tell if that is true or not but I will hate to see the price tag for it when it is made available in early 2012 as has been suggested it will be.

  • Blowme

    I’ve read through some of the comments and a lot of you guys are making no sense. It is a big deal that TMO is the only major carrier not selling the best selling phone available. It’s a huge competitive disadvantage. The lack of the iPhone has been a driver of churn for years for Sprint and TMO. 

    • Mrcoolgarcia

      iphone is NOT THE BEST SELLING PHONE , ANDROID out sold it in the states and world wide ,

      • http://tmonews.com David

        On a per phone basis, it is the best selling phone, not a platform basis but by each individual phone sales, iPhone wins.

      • http://twitter.com/LTEstyles LTEstyles

        people seem to forget, Android is an OS, not phone! the iphone is both OS and hardware. iphone wins. -sent via WP7 mango

      • Steve

        Which one Android phone is outselling the iPhone ?  Sure the hundreds of Android phones from multiple manufacturers is cumulatively ahead of the iPhone, but there is not another single phone anywhere near the sales volume of the iPhone. Nor is there an Android tablet with the sales of the iPad. I am not an iPhone fan, but for a single device, the sales are extraordinary. 

      • Littlesis1774

        no android phone has beaten the iphone

      • Littlesis1774

        no android phone has beaten the iphone

      • Littlesis1774

        no android phone has beaten the iphone

  • ItsMichaelNotMike

    It is somewhat surreal that with the announceme­nt of the iPhone 4S,
    that was perceived as a negative by the media and public, that the next
    day Steve Jobs passes. Obviously Apple timed the 4S release with Steve’s
    imminent passing.

    I have to wonder if Steve Jobs wanted it this way, to NOT announce the
    iPhone 5 when that debut would be clouded by his passing. Jobs was that
    way, I suspect he told Apple to wait on announcing the iPhone 5 until a
    few months after he was gone, so the media could focus on the phone
    rather than his death.

    I have to wonder if Steve Jobs wanted it this way, to NOT announce the
    iPhone 5 when that debut would be clouded by his passing. Jobs was that
    way, I suspect he told Apple to wait on announcing the iPhone 5 until a
    few months after he was gone, so the media could focus on the phone
    rather than his death.

    It would be just like him to do that since he always put Apple first.

  • Sad_tmo_customer

    T mobile offered me 2 free top of the line android phone in the line up and re sign with them.  I said no since we can really benefit from iphone. 
    Everyone has their needs.  Some benefit with Android, some with apple.  Apple is much easier to general public and their OS is much easier to use for general people, thus the are popular.  Android phones have awsome phone specs, but I never had a stable andoid phone.  I guess I am unlucky one but I am ready to go get me an iphone, and goodbye to T mobile.

    I wish T mobile had an Iphone.  Their service is great, plan cost is very competitive, and their customer care is top notch.  It’s a shame…