The @Tmobile @HTC HD7 @WindowsPhone #Mango Review

If you have been following me on Twitter then you probably already know how excited I have been about Mango, for the rest of you the answer is very… I am very excited.  Microsoft pushed out Mango to all WP7 devices on Tuesday, kudos to them on that (take a note Google), and I was lucky enough to snag one of the first upgrades.  I have had some time to get to know this new OS and decided to share my thoughts on it.  It should be noted that I have no intention of starting an OS war.  Comparisons will arise and I will make them to prove a point; after all, I do have some strong words to contend.  Let’s get started, shall we?

On a side note – you can find my original review of Windows 7 and the HTC HD7 right here!

Also, this is a long stream of consciousness review.  For a quick breakdown skip to the final thoughts.

Upgrade Process

This is the simplest, most annoying and time consumer upgrade process I have ever had to do.  For one, there were two updates (maybe three for others).  The first is to prepare the phone for Mango, followed (immediately mind you) by Mango.  Beyond that, the update requires you to be plugged into your computer, which isn’t all that uncommon but still annoying.  In addition, it will always create a backup of your device before upgrading.  This is probably a good thing, but for someone like me (with 10 GB of music on their phone) this is a very long process.  So a tip to those of you who have yet to receive the update – maybe you might want to possibly remove some music to speed this along, if you want.  Either way, two hours and two clicks later I have Mango.

Welcome to Mango

I have to get this out of the way because I promised David that I would do this, but I don’t understand the default color scheme.  Microsoft goes and names their upgraded OS Mango and make the default color RED?!  Who does that?  Especially since Mango is a color option in the theme settings.  I guess I get it, red is a part of their logo colors, and maybe they don’t own the rights to the color mango.  I don’t know, I don’t decide these things but it seems like a missed opportunity there.  Also, Mango is an ugly color on the device.

So you now have Mango, congratulations, but it doesn’t look like it has changed.  Fantastic.  I don’t know how many times I have upgraded Android phones just to have them look different.  You see, this may be what I really love about WP7, the User Interface is the same, everywhere, even in the apps.  Their metro UI is simple, sleek, organized and pretty darn good looking in this editor’s opinion.  I get it, you like Android and you can customize it (and I recommend it), but you shouldn’t have to customize it just to like your phone.  I have spent entirely too much time trying new homescreen replacements, adding homescreens, removing homescreens, trying widgets, changing the size of widgets and then just scrapping it all and starting over again.  With WP7 (and some other notable operating systems) you don’t have much of a choice, but it is simple and functional, just the way it should be on a phone.

It doesn’t look new on the outside, but trust me, there is a sweet center under that shell.  The best thing, of course, is that it is still as quick, if not quicker, as when I first took it out of the box.  The animations are beautiful and fly across the screen with no stuttering.  They move so gracefully that you just have to appreciate the small things, like the changing direction of the arrow as you swipe between the ‘start’ and ‘app’ pages.  It is gorgeous, smooth, and once again, exactly as it should be on a phone.

Search 

They changed some things, of course.  One of the biggest changes is within the Bing search app.  Now, I don’t really like Bing out of principle (I am loyal to Google after all), but they did a great job with this.  Voice search is, I would say, much more accurate than Android’s.  The image search is quick and accurate as well, identifying my book in less than 5 seconds.  My favorite part, though, is the music identification search.  In my tests it was just as accurate as Soundhound and Shazam, and as fast as Soundhound, which makes it very effective.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

With that, you also have Turn-By-Turn Navigation, sort of.  Now, it is turn-by-turn, but I feel like it misses the mark here.  This phone picked up my location very accurately (scarily so), and was able to provide the correct directions.  It also followed my location and moved the map with me as I moved along.  These are great improvements, especially over the original map functions.  With navigation, though, I expect the inclusion of voice directions as I drive.  Instead, Mango forces you to tap the screen to listen to the audible directions.  Now, it will give you a nice like “ding” notification when you move to the next step to remind you to look at it.  Are we seeing the problem here?  I thought we were trying to distract ourselves less while driving?  I don’t want to look at my phone for directions and I especially don’t want other people looking at their phones for directions.  I want, and I expect, voice directions, especially when Google did it so nicely.

“Never bad mouth synergy”

Social integration.  I guess this is the new thing that all the cool kids are doing.  We are talking Facebook and Twitter integration galore.  It’s kind of cool, actually, especially with the way it is done on Mango.  So I did it, jut to see how it works.

I love it.  For one, and as it should be, all of my contacts are synced with their corresponding Facebook and Twitter accounts.  It also aggregates all of your notifications into one panel, found in the “me” tile.  You can post from there too, to all of your accounts, at the same time.  It even aggregates all of the status updates in the “people” tile, which you can then view all at once or sorted by account.  It is all very clean, and very minimalistic.

I hate it.  Maybe you caught it up there, but I absolutely hate that all of my notifications and all of my friends updates are in two different places, different apps even.  For once thing (maybe this is a benefit to some) it makes it nearly impossible to determine if the update is from Twitter or Facebook.  I guess it is nice, it almost merges the two and presents them in one metro themed, white text on black background with red accents (for me), app, but I like knowing which is which (Tweetdeck has spoiled me, clearly).  Back to the two app thing, I hate it.  It is nice that all the notifications are aggregated and all the updates are aggregated, but it would be so much better if they were all aggregated within one app, and only a swipe away (once again, I love Tweetdeck and miss it dearly on WP7).  Also, where is the support for multiple accounts?  I’m sure most of you don’t share my problem, but I have two Twitter accounts and I want to be able to check them both at the same time.  For these reasons, no multiple account support and the use of two different apps, I still feel the need to use the dedicated apps, and both are gorgeous in their own rights.

Facebook for WP7, even if it is still missing some features (which are kind of solved by Facebook integration – next paragraph), is much cleaner and much more reliable than its Android counterpart.  Twitter is too, but it still doesn’t save my most recently read position or really give me new update notifications (I think Tweetdeck, or erm Twitter, owes me some money for pushing how much I love their Android app in a WP7 Mango review).  Using these dedicated apps cleans it up for me, and makes it much easier to check specific updates, plus multiple twitter account supports, so there is that.

You’ve Got Mail, Messaging, and Chat 

So back to Facebook integration.  There is no chat feature in the Facebook App, but you don’t need it.  Facebook chat is baked right into your messaging client.  Maybe you are chatting with someone on Facebook on your phone, but they need to leave their computer.  Simple, just switch to ‘text’ and you can now chat within the same app, viewing the same stream as you were before.  It’s a nice feature, actually I love it, but it has problems.  Not functionally, of course, but in premise.  For one, only you can see this stream, so the other person is kind of out of luck.  Secondly, you have to be signed into Facebook chat from your phone and be chatting with them, which is a pretty big battery drain due to always chatting.  On that same point, all the messages you send via Facebook on your laptop or computer don’t transfer over to your text app.  Maybe that’s too forward thinking, completely universal inboxes for communication with a single person, but I can complain about not having it, right?

A quick touch on messaging… the messaging dialog boxes for the sender and receiver are now different shades of your accent color, cool.

Now this was a big gripe that I had before… the lack of nested e-mails.  No more with Mango.  I have my nested e-mails, and it looks mighty fine as well.  You can merge your e-mail accounts too, but I don’t like doing that, so I didn’t (they are different for a reason).

Multitasking

Or more accurately….quickly switch between paused apps.  Mobile multitasking doesn’t really exist, not really at least.  Mango allows you, though, to switch between recent apps very quickly by long pressing the back arrow.  This brings up a card like view of recent apps, suspended at the same screen you were at when you left it.  Jump back into an app and it starts running just like you never left it, not even a skip.  Now, Mango allows for background apps as well, so you can listen to Slacker while doing other things on your phone (finally…also, can I get a Pandora app, please).  I found one funny little bug, though.  If you leave an app, open another app, return to the first app then open a third app (are you with me here), then the first app will show up on the recent app list twice.

“I’m Dying.” 

So, battery life eh?  I guess this is important.  Important things to note – I’m pretty much what you would call a power user, I’m rough on my smartphone if I don’t have my iPad or laptop to share some of the weight.  My phone was removed from its charger, after a full cycle, at 7 AM Wednesday September 28th.  It is set to change the screen brightness automatically and does not have battery saver turned on. I have four different e-mail accounts linked, set to update as items arrive.  I also have my Facebook and one Twitter account linked through the phone.  The twitter app then has both twitter accounts linked, which updates and caches tweets every 10 minutes, and a dedicated Facebook app.

I would say that today was a busy twitter day, I was keeping you guys up to date on impressions and there was some tablet released or something.  I used turn-by-turn navigation for 30 minutes and slacker for the same amount of time, simultaneously.  I kept up multiple text message conversations, and linked them to Facebook chat for 45 minutes.  I had some phone calls in there too.  I made it until 7:30 PM.   Twelve and a half hours, I’m not surprised and I’m not disappointed.  That’s a lot of work for it to handle, and it didn’t go very long without me picking it up today.  On a normal day I’m sure I can make it to 10 PM, and I’m sure you can too.  Helpful hints – Facebook chat wastes your battery very quickly, turn the screen brightness to low, turn on battery saver, increase the time between checking for updates on twitter and e-mail, and (most importantly) set your phone down for an extended period of time.

Final Thoughts

So I have some words to back up now, huh?  I’ll stress the wording…I am referring to myself.  I wonder why “I” would ever use another OS.  A lot of you questioned me about this, so I really had to think, especially since I challenged Mango just as many times as I applauded it.  I found that my problems with Mango are small, and are more often than not missed opportunities to innovate rather than follow the lead.  In addition, Mango is very functional, with little to no hang-ups, stuttering or crashing.

So why do I praise Mango over the rest, and why do I think you should give it a try?  Easy, because I simply enjoy using it (yes, that is entirely opinionated).  It is simple and elegant, quick and functional.  It does everything I need it to do, and it does it well.  Other phones, with their flashing LED notifications, want me to make time for them.  Windows Phone 7, and Mango specifically, allows you to check your phone on your time.  Your life, simplified.

It should be said, I’m not an “App” person.  All the applications I need I have, and are in the marketplace.  Even so, many of the popular apps are already on the market place, and if not apps are being added at a greater rate now.

Summary 

PROS

+Quick

+Clean

+Metro UI

+Multitasking

+Background Apps

+Nested e-mails

+Facebook and Twitter integration

+Bing

+Upgrade process

+New Live Tile functionality

+Multiple Calendar Support From Google Calendar

+Voice Search

+voice commands

+not iOS

+’me’ tile

+’people’ tile

 

 Neutral

Battery

Applications

Unified Inbox

Facebook Chat

Not Android

No real ‘universal’ communication thread

No LED notifications (Mango isn’t to blame, but still)

Turn-by-Turn Navigation

 

CONS

-‘me’ vs ‘people’ tiles for notifications and updates

-I DON’T LIVE IN THE MOUNTAIN TIME ZONE (AZ problems)

-No support for multiple Twitter accounts

-Dedicated Twitter and Facebook apps still necessary

-No voice guided directions

-Backups

-No Voice Guided Directions

 

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  • Matthewsj

    Nice review Andrew.  It pretty much sums up my feelings for Mango and my HD7.  I’m looking forward to future upgrades and additions to this fine OS.  Now if T-Mobile would just show me something other then the Radar 4G…..

  • Matthewsj

    Nice review Andrew.  It pretty much sums up my feelings for Mango and my HD7.  I’m looking forward to future upgrades and additions to this fine OS.  Now if T-Mobile would just show me something other then the Radar 4G…..

    • http://twitter.com/timmyjoe42 Timothy J. Bennett

      Bring on the Nokias!

  • http://markcarruthers.blogspot.com Mark Carruthers

    Andrew, do the market applications perform any faster now?  The scrolling and loading was poor.  That was my main turnoff with WP7 and ultimately made me go back to Android.  I will be back, just waiting for mainly market apps to perform better.  

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adas-Weber/622729281 Adas Weber

      Yes, that has been fixed. Marketplace is silky smooth now.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adas-Weber/622729281 Adas Weber

      Yes, that has been fixed. Marketplace is silky smooth now.

      • http://markcarruthers.blogspot.com Mark Carruthers

        GREAT!

  • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

    Love the review. Definitely can’t wait to get my Mango on!, lol. & now Zune Pass is offering a mid-tier plan that has unlimited music video streaming w/ unlimited music downloading, but they take away the 10 free mp3s, but it’s only $10. & existing customers w/ the $15 Zune Music Pass plan also get access to unlimited Music video streaming. They need to have a unlimited movie streaming plan too, lol. I know that ain’t happening thou. This is all coming October 3rd thou.

  • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

    Love the review. Definitely can’t wait to get my Mango on!, lol. & now Zune Pass is offering a mid-tier plan that has unlimited music video streaming w/ unlimited music downloading, but they take away the 10 free mp3s, but it’s only $10. & existing customers w/ the $15 Zune Music Pass plan also get access to unlimited Music video streaming. They need to have a unlimited movie streaming plan too, lol. I know that ain’t happening thou. This is all coming October 3rd thou.

  • Motorjonny

    It does have voice directions. You have to turn it on in the settings. You have to tap the screen each time you want to hear them.. Which is weird… But it works.

    • Andrew

      I thought I noted that, but it is a pain, I don’t like it.

  • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

    Was this all with WiFi on & or 4G? as far as the battery life.

    • Andrew

      WiFI off, 3G on. The HD7 does not have 4G, unfortunately. I am interested in the battery life on the Radar, but the Radar will have a smaller screen and, from what I am hearing, a pretty massive battery.

  • Jimkenobi

    No tether and no flash support. I can’t make a playlist without being connected to my computer. I’m not impressed, Mango will not help me sell this phone.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adas-Weber/622729281 Adas Weber

      Yes there is WiFi tethering.
      No there is no Flash support because it has HTML 5.
      Yes you can make a playlist without being connected to your computer.

      2 out of 3 of your concerns are fixed.

      • Dave Drwencke

        Adas is correct, but there are caveats to mention:

        #1 – This will NOT work on current WP7 devices.
        #2 – Your carrier will have to allow the option and will charge for it (as they do with Android).

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adas-Weber/622729281 Adas Weber

          Yes, sorry, should have made it clear.

          With WP7 Mango, you do get WiFi tethering if enabled by the carrier (actually it’s Internet Connection Sharing for up to 5 devices) and you can create playlists without connecting to your computer.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adas-Weber/622729281 Adas Weber

          Yes, sorry, should have made it clear.

          With WP7 Mango, you do get WiFi tethering if enabled by the carrier (actually it’s Internet Connection Sharing for up to 5 devices) and you can create playlists without connecting to your computer.

      • INormL

        Where is the WIFI tehtering feature? I cannot find it on my HD7 with Mango. You also mentioned custome ringtones is thru zune?

        • INormL

          *custom ringtones, is this thru zune?

        • http://twitter.com/TmoNews_Andrew TmoNews_Andrew

          Not necessarily through Zune, but they sync easier if you do so.  Any ringtone editing program will work on un-protected files. 

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adas-Weber/622729281 Adas Weber

          You need to contact your carrier to enable WiFi tethering. Check that your HD7 chipset supports it.

          Yes, custom ringtones are made in Zune.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adas-Weber/622729281 Adas Weber

          You need to contact your carrier to enable WiFi tethering. Check that your HD7 chipset supports it.

          Yes, custom ringtones are made in Zune.

  • http://templates.motocms.com/ flash template

    Very actual information for me! Thanks alot!

  • http://templates.motocms.com/ flash template

    Very actual information for me! Thanks alot!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adas-Weber/622729281 Adas Weber

    What is really cool is that the Facebook integration is also nicely done in the pictures hub. If you take a picture with the camera, you can then upload it to Facebook straight away. But before uploading to facebook, it will automatically identify any faces in the picture and prompt you to tag them first (optional). Any Facebook / Windows Live albums are automatically pulled into one single place – this is basically what cloud integration is all about and it works brilliantly.

    The Facebook calendar is integrated in the WP7 calendar, and you can respond to event invitations too!

    For me, this level of seamless integration is more than enough, therefore installing the seperate Facebook app is not required.

    One final note about WP7 that is worth highlighting again is that from the very start WP7 has had a dedicated camera button with TWO positions, just like a real camera. So you can press down half to focus etc, then press down fully to take the picture. This is the kind of functionality that even iOS 5 will never be able to deliver to existing handsets like iPhone 4 and older.

    ps. The Groups feature helps you filter out all the noise from the various social networks. So rather than have one big list for everyone, just create groups for the people you want and then use that to view the filtered information. Works a treat! :)

  • Anonymous

    When can we get a Motorola Windows Phone? I’m sick of HTC’s mediocre reception! The Sensation 4G is an improvement but.. Motorola still stomps on HTC when it comes to building phone antennas.

    • Anonymous

      Seriously? Moto dedicated themselves to Android a long time ago and Google just recently decided to buy them as well. So the answer, I suppose, is never.

      • Anonymous

        Granted, I wasn’t even considering that.. I just want a Windows Phone with better reception. The HD7 is embarrassingly bad.

    • Anonymous

      Seriously? Moto dedicated themselves to Android a long time ago and Google just recently decided to buy them as well. So the answer, I suppose, is never.

    • DingleBerry

      Yea … my g2x gets way better reception than my hd7. I really wish Motorola or LG would make a windows phone for T-Mobile because I know the reception would be better.

      Mango is sweet!

      I want my wifi
      tethering though.

    • Andrew

      I have noticed that any HTC phones that I have tend to have worse reception, and Motorola has always made great hardware. I have been a big fan of Motorola since the RAZR and have continued on to their current products. Their next DROID phone will set some standards though.

    • http://twitter.com/TmoNews_Andrew TmoNews_Andrew

      I’ll give you that, the HD7 does have worse reception than some of my other phones, but reception is not generally an issue where I live.  If there is a dead spot, all carriers have the same problem (speaking from experience).  On that note, I love Moto hardware….LOVE. 

  • Dave Drwencke

    Great Review.

    All fair assessments from what I can tell.  I was able to push through the update starting at 12:30am on Wednesday morning. I am not 100% sure how long it took because I let it go as I was sleeping. Would I like to skip the backup option? I suppose, but I see it as a necessary evil.
    You mention that you thought the phone was “as fast as the day you bought it” I would argue my device is SIGNIFICANTLY faster than when it was purchased and SIGNIFICANTLY faster than NoDo. I am in-and-out of apps in what feels like an instant.

    The “Me” tile is now 100% more useful and I am in love. Instant updates when things happen involving me on Twitter, Facebook and LinkedIn? Excellent! I can post to all of my services instantly or pick and choose the ones I want to post to.

    The “group email” or “nesting” is fantastic, it is exactly what I was looking for and I love the presentation and its execution. Deleting email and finding what I am looking for again is blazingly fast and simple. 

    “Groups” though a simple premise works wonderfully in practice. Throw all of my “Family” or “Coworkers” together and I have an instant way to check status updates or send a group email/text. With the live tiles flicking around and their current profile picture showing it is aesthetically pleasing while being totally functional. 

    Having music tagging, Big Vision, Local Scout and Voice Search all together is genius and has worked well thus far. On Android or iOS that would be 4 separate “apps” (Shazam/Soundhound, Google Goggles, Yelp, Google Search).

    I have yet to try maps in any significant way, but I was very impressed with the speed and accuracy when I ran a test to find my location.

    Bottom line, the phone is fast (really fast), I see no stutters, I have experienced no crashing the data merging is a thing of beauty and at this point all I can really ask for is for more compelling apps, and improvements to the hardware (bigger screen/better screen, better cameras, the FFC, the addition of 4G and then opening up internet sharing).
    The future is bright, I think the additions to Mango put it in direct competition with Android and iOS and with next big update should surpass them in many respects.

  • http://twitter.com/Mrt1connect Mrt1connect

    Andrew that review was great, very detailed, and a great piece of read when you first wake up in the morning..Thanks…..

  • http://MobileGenius.wordpress.com JM

    I was hoping someone would be doing a review like this. Thanks!

  • Steve Rice

    Great review!  I noticed you mentioned the AZ time zone problem.  Was that not fixed with this update?  Is this an OS problem, or a T-Mobile problem? Thanks.

    • Andrew

      Very good point, to my knowledge it is an OS/location problem. I base this one the fact that my G2X displays the correct time with a T-Mobile sim card. I didn’t really notice the problem until Daylights Savings TIme, which makes sense. For half the year I am indeed in the Mountain time zone, but Arizona doesn’t change times ever. So I would go with it’s an OS issue.

    • http://twitter.com/TmoNews_Andrew TmoNews_Andrew

      I’m going to guess this is an OS problem, I’ve never had a problem with time on any other T-Mobile phone (looking at a G2X right now with the correct time).  It wasn’t something I noticed until daylights saving time, which makes sense. 

    • http://twitter.com/TmoNews_Andrew TmoNews_Andrew

      I’m going to guess this is an OS problem, I’ve never had a problem with time on any other T-Mobile phone (looking at a G2X right now with the correct time).  It wasn’t something I noticed until daylights saving time, which makes sense. 

  • Anonymous

    I really wont a windows phone but I have to say the one thing  cant live without is the GPS and Voice turn by turn directions.  I dont care about 4G blah blah I just want a great GPS and the software to match in a cleaner looking OS I do think this looks a little more put together and Gingerbread

    • Anonymous

      The whole tapping to get the next step in the directions isn’t ideal, but there are nice 3rd party apps that have the normal implementation for turn-by-turn. Plus, Nokia has said they’re going to bring their top-notch Navteq turn-by-turn and Ovi/Nokia maps to Windows Phone.

      We can certainly expect to see this in a future update for current and non-Nokia devices. Nokia devices will most likely have these features pre-installed.

      • Anonymous

        Thanks for the info I hope Nokia shows us what they are bringing to Tmobile because the nexus Prime with ICS is not looking that bad from what I have seen so far.

  • Kalrakam

    What about customized ringtones?

  • Kalrakam

    What about customized ringtones?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adas-Weber/622729281 Adas Weber

      What about them? You can do this in Mango, no problem at all.

      • Jonka

        There is a trick though– they need to be WMA or MP3 and their genre needs to be “Ringtone”

  • sheettah

    great review!!  now i just patiently wait for HTC Radar to launch and switch to windows phone and never look back

  • http://twitter.com/brianmcgriff Brian McGriff

    i love my HD7 and can’t wait to get Mango. Unfortunately i haven’t gotten my notice to upgrade yet :(

    Everything that you have said (quick, clean, metro UI) is what made me fall in love with WP7 to begin with, and now with all the new features i know i’m going to love it even more!!! 

    I use my phone A LOT for work and corporate e-mail and WP7 is the absolute best business phone I’ve ever used. Look out BB. WP7 could really corner the market on business accounts. especially with the new cloud integration. 

  • Ohgeez

    I love to hear real reviews.  Great stuff guys!!!  Keep the info flowing.

  • Tortionist

    Andrew, great review of Mango. I’m a big time Android fan and an early adopter with the G1 which was able to multi task, like downloading 3 apps at a time while listening to music and playing Papi jump. That being said, I have a few questions. One, can you customize or change the color scheme? Two, can you change what apps show or even go on the metro UI panel ? Third, what’s battery life like for a moderate user? You definitely have me willing to check out the HTC Radar when it comes out. I will buy it if I like it. I will keep an open mind. Once again, great review.

    • Guest

      I’m also a HD7 user, so i might as well answer your question. As for customization, yeah you can change the accent color, there are a few choices like red, teal, blue, mango, lime, etc. But you only have a choice of 2 backgrounds, black, or white. There are some other things you can change such as your pictures hub, your background, and stuff, but not nearly as extensive as android, but still more flexible than ios. For your second, yes, you can pin basically anything to your panel, or start screen, whether it be contacts, web pages, or apps, you just tap and hold, like on android or ios. Third, i also am a moderate battery user, i text, make a few phone calls, sync emails, and play some games here and there, and browse the web when i get the chance, and i make it through the day with my HD7 with about 40-50% battery remaining, of course this is different with each phone. Assuming the Radar has a better battery life, you should be fine. Wp7 is a great choice, its worth trying. Its a perfect middle ground between android and ios. I have friends who use android, and i’ve used the ios software for about a year, and so far, i like wp7 the best. Its easy to get used to (plus you always get the “WHOA, what kind of phone is that” comments),  you find yourself being more connected, and spending less time staring at your phone screen.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adas-Weber/622729281 Adas Weber

        Just to add…

        For apps which support it, you can also pin stuff from within an app to the start page. This feature is called deep linking and makes the whole UI even more powerful and customisable.

    • Anonymous

      !. Yes. There are a number of colors you can choose from.
      2. Yes. You can pin any app, web page, contact, game, document from Office, or nearly anything else to your start screen. You can also unpin anything you don’t want there.
      3. Depending on the actual battery size you have,I’d estimate a moderate user should be able to get 15-18 hours+, more with battery saver turned on.

  • Alex Logvin

    Andrew- I’m interested in your comment you wrote about AZ time zone issues. How can I get in contact with you to talk about it?

  • Alex Logvin

    Andrew- I’m interested in your comment you wrote about AZ time zone issues. How can I get in contact with you to talk about it?

    • Steve Rice

      Yeah, me too.  I can’t believe I don’t hear more AZ people complaining about this.  It drives me crazy.  I just updated to Mango, so I’m checking to see if the problem went away.

      • Andrew

        The problem has not been corrected with Mango. A good friend of mine, who happens to be pretty tight with some Microsoft people, has mentioned the problem before and nothing has changed. The other bad part is that the clock, if using manual time, runs about a minute slower every day.

    • Andrew

      The best way to reach me would be to DM me on twitter at this point.

    • http://twitter.com/TmoNews_Andrew TmoNews_Andrew

      It is a crazy bug, and I have talked about it with my friend (who is decently connected within Microsoft) and we both have the same problem.  The best way to reach me would probably be through DM on Twitter. 

    • jcain03

      I thought it was just me. Mountain time -07 gives me the correct time, Arizona time-07 puts me an hour behind, and automatically update time puts me an hour ahead. Its rather annoying and now my received txts come in on AZ time rather than Mtn time. Weird….

    • Adam M

      I have had the same problem with my HD7 and it continues with Mango. Very annoying.

  • Chatter

    Wow – This really makes me want to try a Windows phone. Nice job Andrew!

  • smylax

    Hey Andrew, I have a question that I’m having trouble finding and answer to. Can you now add your own ringtones? I know with WP7 you were kind of stuck with the ringtones that the HD7 shipped. Has this been added?

    • smylax

      Nevermind found it. yes!!

    • Anonymous

      Yep! You can add your own ringtones now and apps already showing up in the marketplace for it.

    • Anonymous

      Yep! You can add your own ringtones now and apps already showing up in the marketplace for it.

    • Andrew

      It has, and I should have mentioned it. Unfortunately for everyone, I do not use ringtones. I only use vibrate, ever, always.

    • http://twitter.com/TmoNews_Andrew TmoNews_Andrew

      Sorry, yes you can….but I keep my phone on vibrate almost always. 

    • http://twitter.com/TmoNews_Andrew TmoNews_Andrew

      Sorry, yes you can….but I keep my phone on vibrate almost always. 

  • n900mixalot

    No update yet and I don’t have a [Win] PC to force the download … About to give this effin HD7 away.

  • Guest

    One question:  does the HD7 support Wi-Fi calling with Mango?  I am looking for a new mobile “experience”.

  • Vincentm_2

    help please, when i look for the update it just says i have it up to date. im at os 7.0.7392.0 can anyone help please!! really want mango >_<

  • Vincentm_2

    help please, when i look for the update it just says i have it up to date. im at os 7.0.7392.0 can anyone help please!! really want mango >_<

    • http://twitter.com/TmoNews_Andrew TmoNews_Andrew

      I have heard that a lot of people are having success using the “trick” method. You lose the surprise and enjoyment of receiving an over the air notification, but you can get mango.From WPCentral:Steps to force a Mango update on phones for which Mango has started rolling out:Connect your Windows Phone to a PC and launch the Zune softwareClick on Phone > Settings > Update. Allow the software to tell you whether an update is available. If so, skip this guide. If not continue to the next step.Time to force the update. Click another button (any of the options above or below the word Update). Then click the Update button again, and this time disconnect your computer from the internet after 1-2 seconds. Do this by pulling out the Ethernet cable, disabling Wi-Fi, etc. If it says your phone is already up to date, you didn’t disconnect quickly enough and need to try this step again.Wait 30 seconds or so and Zune should display a notification that an update is available. This is 7392, the first Mango pre-update.Now reconnect to the internet and continue with the update process through the Zune software.After 7392 is fully installed, you may receive a notification that another update is available. If so, install it now. If not, proceed to the next step.If the second update isn’t popping up on its own, repeat steps 3-5, causing the 7403 update to appear.Install 7403, brave reader. Speeding right along, isn’t it? ;)Mango time! At this point, Zune should automatically start installing the last update, 7720, aka Mango. If it doesn’t happen automatically, force it like we did in previous steps.This last step is very important! Celebrate your phone’s new found Mango status by purchasing a mango smoothie at your nearest Smoothie King, Jamba Juice, Baskin Robbins, or similar establishment.

    • http://twitter.com/TmoNews_Andrew TmoNews_Andrew

      I have heard that a lot of people are having success using the “trick” method. You lose the surprise and enjoyment of receiving an over the air notification, but you can get mango.From WPCentral:Steps to force a Mango update on phones for which Mango has started rolling out:Connect your Windows Phone to a PC and launch the Zune softwareClick on Phone > Settings > Update. Allow the software to tell you whether an update is available. If so, skip this guide. If not continue to the next step.Time to force the update. Click another button (any of the options above or below the word Update). Then click the Update button again, and this time disconnect your computer from the internet after 1-2 seconds. Do this by pulling out the Ethernet cable, disabling Wi-Fi, etc. If it says your phone is already up to date, you didn’t disconnect quickly enough and need to try this step again.Wait 30 seconds or so and Zune should display a notification that an update is available. This is 7392, the first Mango pre-update.Now reconnect to the internet and continue with the update process through the Zune software.After 7392 is fully installed, you may receive a notification that another update is available. If so, install it now. If not, proceed to the next step.If the second update isn’t popping up on its own, repeat steps 3-5, causing the 7403 update to appear.Install 7403, brave reader. Speeding right along, isn’t it? ;)Mango time! At this point, Zune should automatically start installing the last update, 7720, aka Mango. If it doesn’t happen automatically, force it like we did in previous steps.This last step is very important! Celebrate your phone’s new found Mango status by purchasing a mango smoothie at your nearest Smoothie King, Jamba Juice, Baskin Robbins, or similar establishment.

    • http://twitter.com/TmoNews_Andrew TmoNews_Andrew

      I have heard that a lot of people are having success using the “trick” method. You lose the surprise and enjoyment of receiving an over the air notification, but you can get mango.From WPCentral:Steps to force a Mango update on phones for which Mango has started rolling out:Connect your Windows Phone to a PC and launch the Zune softwareClick on Phone > Settings > Update. Allow the software to tell you whether an update is available. If so, skip this guide. If not continue to the next step.Time to force the update. Click another button (any of the options above or below the word Update). Then click the Update button again, and this time disconnect your computer from the internet after 1-2 seconds. Do this by pulling out the Ethernet cable, disabling Wi-Fi, etc. If it says your phone is already up to date, you didn’t disconnect quickly enough and need to try this step again.Wait 30 seconds or so and Zune should display a notification that an update is available. This is 7392, the first Mango pre-update.Now reconnect to the internet and continue with the update process through the Zune software.After 7392 is fully installed, you may receive a notification that another update is available. If so, install it now. If not, proceed to the next step.If the second update isn’t popping up on its own, repeat steps 3-5, causing the 7403 update to appear.Install 7403, brave reader. Speeding right along, isn’t it? ;)Mango time! At this point, Zune should automatically start installing the last update, 7720, aka Mango. If it doesn’t happen automatically, force it like we did in previous steps.This last step is very important! Celebrate your phone’s new found Mango status by purchasing a mango smoothie at your nearest Smoothie King, Jamba Juice, Baskin Robbins, or similar establishment.

      • Vincentm_2

        yea ive tried that about 50 times now and i cant get it >_< very frustrating 

      • Vincentm_2

        nvm i just got it, updating rite now thanx!

      • Vincentm_2

        nvm i just got it, updating rite now thanx!

  • George

    So sad that I cant get this update yet :( I wish there was an option to “opt-in” for updates :(
    Anyone has any ideas?

    • Andrew

      I have heard that a lot of people are having success using the “trick” method. You lose the surprise and enjoyment of receiving an over the air notification, but you can get mango.

      From WPCentral:

      Steps to force a Mango update on phones for which Mango has started rolling out:
      Connect your Windows Phone to a PC and launch the Zune software
      Click on Phone > Settings > Update. Allow the software to tell you whether an update is available. If so, skip this guide. If not continue to the next step.
      Time to force the update. Click another button (any of the options above or below the word Update). Then click the Update button again, and this time disconnect your computer from the internet after 1-2 seconds. Do this by pulling out the Ethernet cable, disabling Wi-Fi, etc. If it says your phone is already up to date, you didn’t disconnect quickly enough and need to try this step again.
      Wait 30 seconds or so and Zune should display a notification that an update is available. This is 7392, the first Mango pre-update.
      Now reconnect to the internet and continue with the update process through the Zune software.
      After 7392 is fully installed, you may receive a notification that another update is available. If so, install it now. If not, proceed to the next step.
      If the second update isn’t popping up on its own, repeat steps 3-5, causing the 7403 update to appear.
      Install 7403, brave reader. Speeding right along, isn’t it? ;)
      Mango time! At this point, Zune should automatically start installing the last update, 7720, aka Mango. If it doesn’t happen automatically, force it like we did in previous steps.
      This last step is very important! Celebrate your phone’s new found Mango status by purchasing a mango smoothie at your nearest Smoothie King, Jamba Juice, Baskin Robbins, or similar establishment.

  • Bigjohn7187

    i liked WP7 when it first came out.. but not enough to ditch android.. this may push me over the edge.

  • Bigjohn7187

    i liked WP7 when it first came out.. but not enough to ditch android.. this may push me over the edge.

    • http://markcarruthers.blogspot.com Mark Carruthers

      Exactly my thoughts.  I had the HD7 and loved WP7 but the application performance at the time was horrible.  The apps were slow and choppy.  Hopefully Mango has fixed that.  The OS generally is a more quality experience than Android.

  • Tortionist

    From the answers on here, I might have just found my next phone, HTC Radar. One more question. Can you overclock the processor? this is out of curiosity.

  • Tortionist

    From the answers on here, I might have just found my next phone, HTC Radar. One more question. Can you overclock the processor? this is out of curiosity.

  • Carmen Diva

    I miss my Windows Phone 7 and HTC HD7 with Tmobile so i am definitely ready to play with the 2011 hardware that comes out soon

    • http://markcarruthers.blogspot.com Mark Carruthers

      Same here as I’m back on Android because WP7 was a bit young at first.  I’m ready to came back and take another look.

  • http://twitter.com/TmoNews_Andrew TmoNews_Andrew

    I didn’t even notice it until you I read this question, but market apps (especially scrolling in twitter) is much much smoother now. 

    • http://markcarruthers.blogspot.com Mark Carruthers

      That is huge to me.  I thought the market app performance was so bad in WP7.  I mean the native apps are fantastic but when you open a market app it feels like a 528Mhz HTC G1.

  • Wes

    I am delighted with what mango has to offer, its a massive improvement over the original version! I have foound one problem though. To use a few of the speech commands it is necessary to turn on  Speech for accessibility, in the Ease of access system settings. With my HD7 it appears as if there is no switch , it just says “off” and there is no way to change it .!

  • Wes

    I am delighted with what mango has to offer, its a massive improvement over the original version! I have foound one problem though. To use a few of the speech commands it is necessary to turn on  Speech for accessibility, in the Ease of access system settings. With my HD7 it appears as if there is no switch , it just says “off” and there is no way to change it .!

  • Ebonixs101

    …It still ain’t 4G! The apps SUCK! You still can’t tether! No LED notification? Really Windows?? UGH!
    Boo.. I had this phone. Got rid of it. I suggest y’all do the same. I went back to Android. Microsoft really could have done some damage in the phone market with this one. The phone is beautiful and the touch screen is AMAZING… but they really screwed up when they waited until now to release “updates” that every other phone ALREADY has (since the beginning)! WTF Windows!?
    #BYE

  • cflorez

    man i tried updating my hd7 yesterday and the mofo straight-up bricked.  it doesn’t even freeze at the HTC logo screen; the thing won’t even turn on :(  i’m so upset.  its crazy how empty i feel without a smartphone.

  • cflorez

    man i tried updating my hd7 yesterday and the mofo straight-up bricked.  it doesn’t even freeze at the HTC logo screen; the thing won’t even turn on :(  i’m so upset.  its crazy how empty i feel without a smartphone.

  • Alexapplewhite

    should i trade a mytouch for a hd7 or no?

  • http://twitter.com/darthgault chris gault

    10/9/2011 and still no update

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  • Mikeym05

    I had received the update notification last week in my HTC HD7 phone, connected it to Zune, and got error 801812C1. Followed the instructions to resolve the problem and even uninstalled/reinstalled Zune but didn’t get the update. Kept receiving the error message for several attempts (>10X). Tried doing it for a couple of nights, same thing. Frustrated, i went to see a TMobile kiosk and gave me a number to call for support. Called TMobile support and still got no luck. Instead, they gave me Zune support number; again, they had no answer for me and advised me to contact Windows. Contacted Windows and pointed me back to my carrier (TMobile). They advised me to reset my phone in the hope that my phone drive will be updated. I hesitantly did what they had suggested knowing i have to reinstall all downloads from marketplace not to mention backing up all the files i have in my phone. And….yup! NOTHING!!! Still got the same 801812C1 error!!! It is really frustrating and I hope that Windows, Zune, or TMobile will come up with a solution other than pointing fingers which one to call for such problem when the solutions they propose don’t work at all.

    • http://markcarruthers.blogspot.com Mark Carruthers

      The error ’801812C1′ appears when the phone is wrongly identified as a ‘Zune’ device (MS MP3 reader !) after the phone restarts at step 6 of the WP7 March 2011 upgrade.In order to set the correct WP7 device on the PC:

      1. Shut down the phone (press & hold the power button)
      2. Restart the phone and press & hold the camera button
      3. A black screen appears on the phone showing a device connected to a PC
      4. Connect the phone to PC on USB port
      5. Open Device Manager on PC and check the entry for Portable Device: ‘Schubert’ (= HD7) or other name (depends on your phone).
      6. Shut down the phone (press & hold the power button) and restart it.
      7. Connect the phone to PC and run the WP7 upgrade from Zune.

      The error ’801812C’ no longer occurs at step 6.

      • Mikeym05

        I did that before even calling TMobile, Zune, and Windows. Both recommendations posted by Microsoft didn’t work. I was able to pass Step 6 but once I get to Step 7 which is backing up files, that’s when it shows the error “801812C1″.

    • CloudStrife_cowboy

      The upgrades good but I’ve discovered a few but important function problems…group messaging doesn’t work….my hd7 can’t send a message to more than 2 on ur contacts. In NoDo I used to do it but now I can’t please help…

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  • Turnervh

    I just received and updated my HTC hd7 to the mango update and would have to say I absolutely love. Makes your phone move so much smoother and faster then any phone I’ve had (androind and iPhone). I would highly recommend this phone to anyone.