Samsung Twitter Account Accidentally Spills Galaxy S II Processor Info?

It appears as though Samsung’s very own @GalaxySsupport Twitter account has let loose the processor that we will eventually find inside the T-Mobile bound Galaxy S II. PhoneDog reader @MedeirosMusic pinged the Samsung Galaxy S Twitter account about the processor only to be told it was a dual-core option. Well that answer didn’t suffice as Julian further pressed the Samsung account for an actual processor and got an answer: a 1.5GHz dual-core Qualcomm APQ8060 processor or exactly what people expected would be inside the phone.

Still, this isn’t what we’d consider absolute “confirmation” from Samsung even though we’d like to think this tweet accidentally let the cat out of the bag. The APQ8060 processor has been suggested as the possible Samsung Exynos replacement since it can be paired with the MDM8220 modem providing 42Mbps HSPA+ speeds for the T-Mobile variant of the Galaxy S II.

So now that Samsung has possibly spilled the beans, does this mean we can get a true hands on with the phone now?

PhoneDog via @SamsungSsupport

 

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  • 4g

    Nice. I’ll take one please.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sungc1 Sung Cho

    Just give us the dang phone already!!!

  • Lazera Thompson

    hmmmmmmmm let me see benchmarks and some nenamarks and i will make my decision 

  • J. Williams

    Okay…good job Sammy!!

  • xV

    I don’t think its an accident. If I owned a business like Samsung, I want my customer to know what they are getting before hand.

  • lrnano

    Me liking what I am hearing. If is true I am getting one for sure. Since I have the Vibrant T959.

  • Kris Harris

    Why is this such a big deal? We’ve had the S2 in the uk for months, surely someone already knew what the processor was :S

    • cirrob

      You don’t know what’s in your s2 do you?

      • Anonymous

        Actually, time to burst your bubble as well as all the other know-it-alls on this site. The Galaxy S II DID NOT ship with the Exynos chip in every region as Samsung could not keep up with demand. And actually in the UK it was affected by the lack of chips available. There are phones out there that shipped with 1ghz Tegra 2 instead.

        That Qualcomm chip being clocked at 1.5 with an Arm 7 architecture will be just as if not faster and MOST IMPORTANTLY(because Android sucks with this) easier on the battery than the Exynos processor while providing DOUBLE the data speeds.

        T-mobile wanted to have a 42mbps capable phone ready for the fall and this is going to be the one. And while some people come on here just to mope and whine about data speeds in their area and say that it’s all marketing, those people need to stop complaining and stfu. 

        I live in NYC and currently getting 10mbps+ DL on my Sensation.

        • Anonymous

          I rather take a killer CPU that I’d use ALL THE TIME, rather than POTENTIAL killer data speeds which I only MAY USE parts of the time.

    • http://littlebigideas.tumblr.com/ JakeMG

      Because this is not the same processor.  All the other GSII phones have a Samsung-built Exynos processor and this one doesn’t.  This is so Tmobile can make it capable of faster data speeds.

      The downside is that this Qualcomm processor doesn’t have the killer GPU that the Exynos does. :(

  • Youngsir

    Then they need to name the handset something else. It is not a Galaxy S II handset without the Exynos. Once again, the pink T cheaply goes where no other carrier bothered going.

  • Anonymous

    it doesnt matter if they put if they put the same processor thats in the smiley in the galaxy s II, its going to sell because it has a big screen and looks pretty.  The qualcomm chip will be fine enough.  

    • Juang30

      That’s true, most people don’t and won’t care what’s in the inside. Most people like a phone for the reason that it looks pretty and that it is popular. This phone will definitely sell just like the vibrant did.

  • guest

    Is it the same as the one on the sensation where if one core gets lazy it goes to sleep?????

  • Anonymous

    They are probably gonna call it the Samsung Vibrant II.

  • Anonymous

    Lots of hatin going on here. Based on daves intel, this will be the most powerful processor (based on clock speed) in a us android phone and ppl are still complaining!!!!! Noone knows what the phone is capable of becnhmark wise, so let’s save the bashing if we find qualcomms setup to be inferior.

    • Anonymous

      According to Anandtech, the Qualcomm APQ8060 is definitely inferior to the Exynos. The Exynos is the best SoC found in an Android device to date (including tablets), and I will most definitely be skipping this device for that reason alone.

      I don’t always want the latest and greatest, but in this case I believe holding off is justified.

      • Anonymous

        I feel you on that id prefer to have better performing processor over 42mbps capability, but your average joe could care less about a particular processor. We are a minority on thus blog. This is a political move by tmo for sure. Kinda shocking they didnt reserve 42mbps for the htc ruby and let the galaxy s2 run a measly 21mbps

  • Guest22

    No exynos, no sale for me

  • Anonymous

    This is disappointing but it’s not like the Exynos was a Tegra 2 or something.  In the end, it’s a big, beautiful phone that many will jump to b/c of all the hype.  But I admit I’m in a quandary about this vs. the HTC Amaze. 

    • Anonymous

      Better than a Tegra 2.

  • alank009

    I am sure this is not going to delay any upgrades to ice cream sandwich?

  • Brandyn

    Does anybody know of it is going to have a locked boot loader like the HTC EVO 3D

    • xV

      All the newer phone will have unlock boot loader.

  • Rashad Jupiter

    so which carrier is gonna have the s2 that has a tegra 2 in it? thats the one i want.

    • Anonymous

      Tegra 2 isn’t as powerful as the Exynos or this one

      • Anonymous

        qualcome is the worst of the 3 from what iev read

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jorge-Acosta/535374448 Jorge Acosta

    yesssssssssssssssssss…..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.boymeetsphone.com Yossarian Norman

    I am very confused on why they would go for a processor that is made for devices that don’t need a cellular signal….the APQ8060 is a AP-Only processor

    • J-Hop2o6

      + MDM8220 modem = MSM8260 (Sensation) w/ faster data speeds.

  • Anonymous

    Is anyone even getting those speeds for them to make the change lol?

    • guest

      This may be a ploy by T-Mobile to raise data plan rates.  Sprint added $10. per month for their 4G capable phones.  Maybe T-Mobile plans to do the same for phones that are HSPA+ 42mbps capable.

      • FtKnoxTMO

        Then I hope they offer a discount for those (most) of us in EDGE territories.  They just added some 3G to the area I live in I have yet to see over 300Kbps on my MT4G.

  • Oregonduckfan

    To David:

    Before we all go out and purchase this phone upon availability, can you give us a rundown of the phones you are expecting to see or rumored to see from T-Mobile in the next 6 months?  I don’t want to get this if something better is around the corner.  Also- should the HTC HD2 still be considered a “Hot Topic” under your “Hot Topic” catagory?  Bhahahaha………

    Thanks….we appreciate your good work!

    • Jaygqitalia

      My friend, there is ALWAYS something better around the corner.

      • Anonymous

        that right there is the god damn truth

      • Oregonduckfan

        Good Point!  But I’m trying to figure out when to upgrade from my lovable MT4G.

        • Anonymous

          Get the Sensation or wait for the next phone and than the next and so on and son on…rinse and repeat. 

    • Anonymous

      I am sure he will get right on that for you. 

  • stiggy

    Everyone should read the anandtech review of the gs2, then come and say you still think it’s a good choice to choose qualcomm. It’s not. Exynos is the best processor/gpu for a mobile right now. Overclocking the sensation (which is what this is) still won’t match it. The 42Mbps is not going to load web pages 5 seconds faster, but exynos will open Apps faster.

  • Anonymous

    might as well get a sensation and stop the waiting its basically the same phone 

    • Auser72

      No it’s not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Newbie

        Auser, what are the main differences?  Are they differences only a techie would realize in everyday use, or would even a regular user realize the differences?   

  • http://twitter.com/KARMA773 Karma

    within few days, I will receive my GALAXY S2 from Sprint, better looking than TMO’ sversion for  only $80 free shipped with new contract! woooooooooo! byeeeeeee TMO

    • Born2kill60

      why are you on a T-mobile news blog? “woooooooooo! byeeeeeee”

    • stiggy

      Where did you order from?

  • OKDave

    Okay, with the Qualcomm CPU, why would we just not wait another few days (literally) for the Nexus Prime? Or will TMobile ask for a special version of it with a 80386 CPU to save a buck?

  • Raul

    Thank u….im getting the iphone 5 instead!
    Lam.e a.s.s proccesor

    • Ilyas_k15

      You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. Stick with Apple, kid

      • zee

        Neither do you so shut up and wait to see both!

  • Auser72

    All thoughts on performance (or lack there of), are pure speculation at this point. We need to wait for a comprehensive hands on review, until then I withhold judgement.

    • Anonymous

      This is the most sense I’ve read so far.

  • Hoevito

    This processor is asynchronous just the the one in the sensation, but is a slightly better model and is the same chip put into the HP touchpad’s. It will probably also be the same chip put in the HTC Ruby (Amaze).

  • Matlock

    PASS!!!! Was hoping to swap my Sensation out for this phone, but not going to happen! I hate processor in the Sensation, and cant stand the fact that I cant play certain games with it! PASS!! So disappointed! Hoping and praying now that the next Nexus device comes with T-Mo bands on it!

  • Anonymous

    ::sigh:: bad news but there is always something better within a month or end of the month.

    hint:Nexus Prime w/t-mo band :)

    • Kevinmarchibald

      Since the Nexus Prime is a Samsung phone and likely HSPA+ 42, I’m worried it won’t have the Exynos either. The Droid Prime’s not attractive either because of the LTE power consumption.

      • Anonymous

        It’s been confirmed to be a TI 1.5 ghz dual core chip which is just as good, if not better then Exynos. I know the batter life is supposed to be great

        • OKDave

          Why is it “better?” Its just an overclocked Qualcomm, is it not?

        • Anonymous

          TI and Qualcomm are not the same company, and they make different chips. TI’s Omap chips have always outperformed snapdragons.

        • Kevinmarchibald

          Hm, I haven’t seen any confirmation on the Prime CPU/GPU, just rumors of the OMAP4460, which uses an overclocked A9 and overclocked SGX540. The Bionic uses the OMAP4430, and doesn’t come close to beating the Exynos-based SGS2. Always possible an overclocked A9/SGX540 with its dual-channel memory will be competitive with the Exynos. I’ve worked on OMAP-based projects, and TI were more open and helpful with us and the radio integrators than Qualcomm, so always possible Samsung/Google will be able to get all the SoC fixes/changes they want to optimize performance. Less confident Samsung have been able to do the same with the APQ8060.

  • DIAMOND PRINCE

    Compatibility with the MDM8220 has widely become the accepted reasoning behind the decision to include a Qualcomm processor inside the Galaxy S II instead of Samsung’s own Exynos. The MDM8220 is capable of 42Mbps HSPA+. T-Mobile made a wise decision by choosing Qualcomm’s Snapdragon S3. The chip doesn’t suffer in power compared to Exynos (unless we’re talking GPU), and will offer a huge boost in network speed. Do you think T-Mobile made the right call, or should they have stuck with slower network speeds and a Exynos CPU?

    • OKDave

      Slower network speeds are a bit of a marketing ploy, are they not? I mean, let’s face, you and I both know you’re NEVER, repeat, NEVER going to come close to “real” 42Mbps…can we even realistically hope for 2x performance of the 21Mbps rates? highly unlikely. 

      The point is that trying to oversell the cheap CPU against the “higher speed” modem is a bit of fool’s gold if you ask me. Yes, technically the potential speeds are higher, but real world throughput won’t even come close. 

      • Anonymous

        We might not be able to hit 42Mbps in the real world, but count on hitting in the mid to high 30′s.
        I have a 40Mbps internet connection at home, but I only get between 37 and 38 Mbps down. Never the full advertized 40Mbps.

  • Anonymous

    hey t-mobile and samsung not gonna release another galaxy s2 with exynos after the hercules drops are they?like they did with the vibrant and galaxy s with FFC?

  • AndroidKura

    T-Mobile you killing us man what is happening here you guys need think of a better processor then that man unless u show us a clip by showing some tests k I mean u guys might lose either customer or not make the amount of money u looking for not to mention u don’t even have a CEO anymore so come on man give us what we need to make the money u want so we can be really happy

  • Anonymous

    All this talk about the prime having the qualcomm chip also…..I doubt it bc the np isn’t a tmo a exclusive….there’s little reason or incentive for tmo to make the np 42mbps…..if they did, it would literally be better than any phone in their lineup….given its size, res, ics etc.

  • Hoevito

    Well, the Tmobile variant will still have 2 major selling points over the other SII variants in the eyes of the average consumer…it will have the fastest clock speeds (1.5ghz vs. 1.2ghz) and the fastest data speeds (utilizing hspa+42). I would go so far as to say, in the eyes of the AVERAGE CONSUMER the Tombile variant may be the most attractive on paper which may be what Tmobile was aiming for. I think  Tmobile (and the average consumer as well) could care less specifically what processor is underneath the hood when they can lay claim to having the “fastest” phone out there period.

    Also, the MSM8x60 incorporates an asynchronous dual-core SMP micro-architecture Unlike synchronous dual-core SMP designs where both cores must run at the same frequency and voltage when operational, the dual-core Scorpion asynchronous power design provides independent clocking and voltage per core, allowing each to work independently.

    This could also be seen as a selling point to the average consumer because while this chip obviously doesn’t contain the out and out performance of the exynos, it could be marketed to consumers as a more “efficient” and battery friendly model and still claim to be “faster”. What sucks about this particular chip though is the fact that in the modding community, it’s hard to create custom kernels for this chip and the 2nd core will only kick in when needed. Otherwise under non taxing cirumstances  the phone happily operates right on along with one core. It’s not neccesarily bad by most means and under normal usage it works just fine but it probably won’t “feel” the same as a true synchronous dual core phone.

    As an owner of a sensation, having an asynchronous dual core phone isn’t bad at all…it may not be the ultra badass ferrari of a phone it could’ve been but unless you’re the type that puts all your faith in benchmarks and extracting every last ounce of performance from your phone, I doubt the difference in chips is going to make the Tmobile model inferior to the others…

    • Anonymous

      You do have a point about the fact that the average consumer would care less of which processor is inside the phone especially when they hear its 1.5 dual core instead of 1.2. I’m a little disappointed that its not rocking the exynos chip, but I think the performance of the phone will b almost as good as the AT&t and Sprint version because I don’t think Samsung wants one of their product called a ” galaxy s 2″ with all the reputation of the speed and all that good stuff underperforming so I’m guessing that t-mobile and Samsung are working together to make sure that whatever processor they chose instead of the exynos will be satisfaying to us, not the average consumers but the ones that are technical about their phones. We’ll see what happens. I think I’m going to see the reviews of that phone when it comes out before buying it. I got the sensation too and its a pretty good phone.

      • Guest42

         Tmobile wants to promote its hspa +42 with sg2 its as simple as that.

    • Newbie

      Hoevito, for someone looking to move to a smartphone for the first time (I know, embarrassing), who would use it primarily for basic calling, texting, and checking e-mail and surfing the net a bit, maybe watching a videos from time to time, is it worth waiting for this phone or the Prime, or is the Sensation everything I would need?

      • Anonymous

        Get a prime, better hardware and updates right from Google

      • Anonymous

        Get a prime, better hardware and updates right from Google

  • OKDave

    Okay, someone tell me…when is the Nexus Prime supposed to hit, will it be available on TMobile? Last I heard, it was coming out the mid/late October time frame, same as SGS2, but now that we know Tmobile’s will be, at best, an SGS2-lite, not sure I want to bother….Anyone know about Nexus Prime availability?

    • J-Hop2o6

      November

    • Anonymous

      SGS2-lite?
      Please enlighten me (and all of us) how its an SGS2-lite especially when it comes with 2 cores clocked in at 1.5Ghz instead of 1.2Ghz and also has 42Mbps HSPA+.

      • OKDave

        Because you obviously have no clue that raw clock speed is *meaningless* except fo folks who just read advertising hype. The Exynos processor is hands-down the superior chip for handsets right now. The SGS2 that *everyone* else will be selling will have the Exynos processor – but not the TMobile one – and overclocking it isn’t going to make up the difference. THAT is why this version should be sold as the SGS2-Lite.

  • Anonymous

    Pass I’ll wait for the Prime. What a pathetic joke T-Mobile is. This is why they are hurting and only AT&T was willng to buy them purely for their spectrum.

    T-Mobile = FAIL

    • Smooth3d

      How is this fail exactly, some people are clueless!!! 

      • Anonymous

        No Exynos = fail, why do you think they hid it from the other 2 at the launch? Probably has lag issues. Since it won’t GPU accelerated without the Exynos chip.

        • Anonymous

          They haven’t disclosed the GPU though yet. Officially.

        • Anonymous

          Certainly WON’T be the Mali quad-gpu of Exynos. Qualcomm is always going to go with some variation of their Adreno/ATI hardware.

    • Anonymous

      I guess you think you are pretty smart and you know it all, so why is the processor in this phone worse than the ones in the other GS2s? Explain in detail please. You are as clueless asAlicia Silverstone. The reason T-Mobile used this processor is so YOU the customer can enjoy the 42 Mbps HSPA+ speeds they offer straight from your cell phone. Show some respect or leave for another carrier.

  • Anonymous

    Everyone don’t jump the gun, get your facts straight 1st. If sources are correct the Samsung Galaxy S II headed to T-Mobile (aka Hercules) will feature the fastest CPU of all the U.S. Galaxy S II phones and will clock in at 1.5 GHz instead of 1.2 GHz. This is the same dual-core processor used in the HP Touchpad and is the latest generation dual-core from Qualcomm. Hopefully this ends up being true and T-Mobile users can be happy to know they’ll have the fastest stock Samsung Galaxy S II around soon.

    • Anonymous

      The Exynos 1.2 Ghz will still beat it even at 1.5Ghz, clock speed means nothing

  • Chrisangel13

    since when was dual core 1.5 GHz a fail? last i checked there aren’t any US phones out right now that can beat it. and though the AT&T and Sprint versions have exynos, they come up short at 1.2 GHz and i’m pretty sure aren’t capable of LTE or even coming close to T-Mobile’s 42Mbps HSPA+ speeds.

    • Anonymous

      Clock speed means nothing, Exynos will stil outperform Qualcomm’s crap at 1.5Ghz

  • AndroidKura

    I guess I will have to wait for the review and see how things will turn out I’m patient enough to wait and see

  • Danny

    1.5 GHz dual core Snapdragon should work just fine with an optimized OS and new Touchwiz UI.  Much more powerful than previous phones and most phones on the market.  

    Don’t see what the big deal is.  I mean I’m a geek but you guys are going way overboard here. 

    We are getting a 42 Mbps radio (of course the network isn’t available everywhere) but it’s a fair trade and better than what Sprint or AT&T is offering. 

    • Anonymous

      Exynos is the best CPU for mobile, no question. This phone has a sub par CPU. It is not better than Sprints or AT&T’s.

      • Anonymous

        This is a dual core 1.5 GHz processor instead of the 1.2 GHz Exynos.  Why don’t you test it first before jumping to conclusions?

        • souggie

          1.5ghz doesn’t mean anything if the performance is affected, the sensations processor is 1.2 AND dual core, yet it is as fast as my previous mt4g, 1.5 may not mean much in comparison when the hardware pales in comparison. The exynos has been proven to be beastly in performance and graphics, if the apq 8060 is similar to the current sensation processor, then its a let down. It would have to outperform exynos by a SIGNIFICANT margin to be considered

        • souggie

          Also the exynos cores are full A9 cores, whereas the sensations cores are modified A8s, which have elements of both A8 and A9. For the techies this is a big deal because the A9 performance has been proven to be what is proper at this point…so…can you blame them for wanting better?

      • Anonymous

        Does anyone here really think Samsung will allow this processor to trump their own?  

      • enveed05

        dude you’d never be able to tell the difference if you had phones with both cpu’s side by side

        • Anonymous

          Until I load an HD video or play a 3d game, or open the browser and see that the browsing isn’t GPU accelerated. Sorry this will be a fail

        • Anonymous

          right, because you’ve used both phones side by side already?  You sound like an idiot…

        • Anonymous

          Actually I have, SGS2 from Bell and a HTC Sensation also from Bell (same chip in the T-Mobile SGS2 talked about here) Guess what? The SGS2 smokes the Sensation. And it will smoke this P.OS too. YOU clearly are an idiot if you think otherwise.

        • Anonymous

          The Sensation, despite belief only by you, is actually not the same phone as the Hercules.  Comparing the Sensation to a SGS2, is not the same as the Hercules to the Epic Touch.  You are a douche…  Your overarching assumptions make you look completely assholish.

        • Anonymous

          The ONLY difference between the Sensation chip and the Tmo GS2 chip is a built in modem, that is all. Exynos will wipe the floor with this, but hey at least you will be able to download your apps now at 12Mbps.

        • Anonymous

          Regardless of the difference in the chipset, IT IS A DIFFERENT PHONE. You are making generalizations and assumptions based upon a phone you have never, used, benchmarked, or seen.  If you take a second to process that and step back from the situation you will realize how foolish that sounds.  I get 14 Mbps now btw, So yes, I will enjoy my data speeds.

        • souggie

          Wrong…exynos’s power pimp slapped my sensation in real world use, my brother uses an unlocked world gs2 and he Swears by it, as do i. Unfortunately he has att tho…

      • souggie

        Well that’s hopefully what happens if they do replace the processor that they’ll maximize its potential so that its performance will mirror that of the exynos

  • Oce

    People who are saying “What’s the big deal?” don’t realize that the GSII with the Exynos chip is the only chip I’ve seen that can play 1080p flash media in the stock browser without a hiccup.  The Sensation’s dual core 1.2ghz Qualcom chip can not.  Heck my desktop chokes on 1080p media!  That’s the “Big Deal” for me.  This new Qualcom chip is clocked higher but I think it still uses the previous generation Adreno 220 gpu which is proven to under perform against the Mali 400 gpu.  Someone chime in if this info is incorrect please.

    • Briguydj32

      Oh darn, no HD porn for you

    • Anonymous

      Actually you know what, its just a software thing, I used to think that the gs2 was the only phone able to play flash without hiccup even when u scroll on the page it doesn’t stop, but when u use for example the skyfire web browser on the sensation and you play a FLASH video, u can scroll as much as u want the video doesn’t stop at all or stutter. It’s a software thing with the browser.

  • souggie

    Does anyone know if the APQ8060 uses A9 cores or A8 cores, or does it use the “modified A8″ cores like the sensation does? Im all for the Qualcomm SoC, as long as those cores are next gen A9s

    • Anonymous

      APQ8060 is the exact same thing as MSM8260 on the sensation except it doesn’t have the wireless band. Apq8060 is applicantion processor only.

      • souggie

        Oh so they’re modified A8s…mmmm, not worth it then, imho

        • Anonymous

          Yea, but hopefully the overclock is going to affect the speeds. But the more I think about, the more I think that the Qualcomm chip will b ok. The sensation performance is not great because:
          - 768mb of ram which sense use more than a 3rd
          - sense is super duper heavy and is a CPU hog.
          - htc didn’t optimise it well with drivers.

          I’m an htc guy, but Samsung knows definitely more about internals than htc. So I think Samsung will optimise things, 1Gb of ram will help things run smooth and touchwiz is light compare to sense so the CPU will barely take a hit. So even though the T-mobile galaxy s 2 will have Qualcomm’s chip, it is still a Samsung GS2 and Samsung wants to keep the GS2 reputation the way it is: a super powerful phone.

        • souggie

          I hope you’re right, because i’ve been waiting for the gs2 for a looong time

  • souggie

    I really couldnt give a shit about network speeds because i LIVE on wifi almost everywhere i go, even at work. 14.4 has been quite fine for me when i’ve had to use “4g” which is almost never.  I can live with qualcomm making a PROPER SoC, as long as it lives up to galaxy s2 expectations in terms of everyday speeds on the device.42 mbps is neither here nor there as far as I’m concerned, sounds nice,and im sure it would be cool for most, but for techhies, mmm…probably not so much

  • Ali

    Okay I’m all for processor speed, and yes it’s nice having a phone that’s dual core compared to something with a single core, but man everyone here is talking crap about this phone’s processor being not being a Exynos has to get over it. This is a cell phone people the most your going to do is surf the internet, send texts, and take phone calls. Maybe some of you root, and flash a couple roms… AND THATS IT. This phone looks fast and is more then enough capable of handling what you do on a cellphone day in and day out. Some people talk like they want there phones to run battlefield 3 on its highest settings.

    • souggie

      I hear you but for the techies, you’re prolly gonna loose this argument….these tech boys are serious.. :)

      • souggie

        Lose, excuse the typo

        • Ali

          Yeah your right I would lose, but it doesn’t make there phone capable of doing more then my phone can do. At the end of the day my phones in my pocket and im on my computer lol.

        • grammar police

          The amount of grammatical errors in your comment has made me lose all faith in humanity.

        • Ali

          There always has to be one grammar freak in every discussion that I read. How about next time you worry more about the discussion rather then my grammer. Dam rent a cop.

        • JT

          why can’t he complain about your grammar, you complain about the features being sub par, in which most people (the norm ) would care less about

  • Anonymous

    Actually if you think about this whole thing, you can’t call that phone a galaxy s 2 phone. It will b the same as an htc sensation running touchwiz. That’s ridiculous.

    • Hoevito

      No…the sensation uses the MSM8260 Dual-Core SoC with Adreno 220 GPU. The Tmobile Galaxy SII will use the APQ8060…totally different. It will feature L2: 512 kB, and also uses ARMv7.

      • Curious

        For us not techies, can you give that to us in plain english Hoevito?  What is the practical implication of what you are saying?

      • Anonymous

        Dude, the APQ8060 is the MSM8260 minus the data radio. That’s all it is. That’s why it is used in the HP touchpad because that tablet doesn’t need carrier connectivity. The APQ8060 is an application processor, u pair it with the 14.4 mbps/21 mbps/ 42 mbps modem and u got the MSM8260. It is exactly the same. If u don’t believe me just Google it.

        • Fray Contreras

          Yes Sir!

      • Fray Contreras

        Exynos rocks this. The only difference with this APQ8060 is a high modem speed. Thats all.

    • Anonymous

      You should pitch that to Samsung…  Clearly you are a creative genius…

  • Manit Suri

    This matters! anyone here thinking they are going to get 41 or 21 mbps is crazy, tmobile aint going above 8 mbps even if you were standing next to the tower.  bad marketing ploy to show off a speed cap that will never hit a user, why not give your consumers the best before the company turns into more trash? by ATT of course. 

    • http://rpad.tv RPadTV

      Considering I get 6 to 7 down on my G2x, I’m positive I’d get above 8. Have you seen early tests?

  • JBLmobileG1

    I just don’t understand why people on here are making such a big deal over the processor of a phone. Ok ok… So you want to run custom roms… I get it. But if you are having issues running a cell phone rom on a device with a decent 1.5 Ghz processor and the rom is slow and buggy… I think the developer of the rom just isn’t good at what he does. I have an old friend who is a computer guru and he told me that most computers have so much power we just don’t know how to harness it yet the processor gets larger and faster yet we never take advantage of the current product. I Love technology… but come on now…. if you are saying this phone isn’t worth taking a look at because of the processor… I mean really????

    • Anonymous

      We’re making a big deal about the processor because that processor is what makes the galaxy s 2 the super fast phone that it is. People have been waiting for this phone for months, and with all the praises of the exynos processor, this phone finally comes to T-mobile with a less powerful processor so yea it sucks. Nobody is going to hit 42Mbps… Nobody because its just a theorical speed. Besides who cares about 42mbps when u got WiFi everywhere nowadays? I rather have a faster processor that let’s me enjoy things on a daily then a 42″ mbps” that I would never hit.

      • http://rpad.tv RPadTV

        I care about HSPA+ 42. It should be a huge difference. I’ve used Verizon LTE phones and nothing comes close. Download speeds and ping rates of HSPA+ 42 should be close Verizon LTE.

    • Anonymous

      The point is that AT&T and Sprint are getting the Exynos which the best chip right now while we are getting a watered down version, with a chip that the real SGS2 wiped the floor with.

      • JBLmobileG1

        And tomorrow there will be a better chip than the Exynos… and if you wait another week the Exynos will be obsolete… Oh wait! I think it already is… DANG IT!!!

        • JBLmobileG1

          Point being… if you want the best you will never get it because the way technology is there will ALWAYS be something better.

        • JBLmobileG1

          One last post which brings me to my first. The way technology changes sure we get faster and bigger processors… which we never utilize fully.. and in turn we may reverse our advancements.. for example… less battery life. So are we really getting more or less regardless if we may think we might be getting better.

        • Anonymous

          But why release something new with sub par hardware if you can use the best? Why remove the best and replace it with something sub par?

          “Oh look everyone we have a phone that hits 42Mbps”

          fine print reads theoretical max which you will never even remotely come close to hitting

        • JBLmobileG1

          Because from a business standpoint if you released the best of the best and something that’s the latest and greatest with ALL the bells and whistles…. how else would you make money…. regardless if there is something better out at the time or soon afterwards. How come Apple didn’t release an iphone with a front facing camera to begin with… Or an 8mp camera on say the 3gs? I would Love to make the perfect phone but I would lose money. Why not make a cellular phone with a battery that charges itself with movement. It’s been in watches for decades and they say cell phones are replacing watches to tell time. I am sure someday it’ll happen… but until then it’s one added feature at a time… Sometimes going back a step only to release the next version with everything you wanted in the last…. But by that time there is something new and better anyways.

        • Anonymous

          This does not relate to what T-Mobile has done here. Sorry

        • JBLmobileG1

          Because from a business standpoint if you released the best of the best and something that’s the latest and greatest with ALL the bells and whistles…. how else would you make money…. regardless if there is something better out at the time or soon afterwards. How come Apple didn’t release an iphone with a front facing camera to begin with… Or an 8mp camera on say the 3gs? I would Love to make the perfect phone but I would lose money. Why not make a cellular phone with a battery that charges itself with movement. It’s been in watches for decades and they say cell phones are replacing watches to tell time. I am sure someday it’ll happen… but until then it’s one added feature at a time… Sometimes going back a step only to release the next version with everything you wanted in the last…. But by that time there is something new and better anyways.

        • JBLmobileG1

          Because from a business standpoint if you released the best of the best and something that’s the latest and greatest with ALL the bells and whistles…. how else would you make money…. regardless if there is something better out at the time or soon afterwards. How come Apple didn’t release an iphone with a front facing camera to begin with… Or an 8mp camera on say the 3gs? I would Love to make the perfect phone but I would lose money. Why not make a cellular phone with a battery that charges itself with movement. It’s been in watches for decades and they say cell phones are replacing watches to tell time. I am sure someday it’ll happen… but until then it’s one added feature at a time… Sometimes going back a step only to release the next version with everything you wanted in the last…. But by that time there is something new and better anyways.

        • Anonymous

          obviously you will not reach peak speeds, that’s why it is a PEAK THEORETICAL SPEED.  Did you think you uncovered something unknown?  Increasing peak speeds increases actual speeds.  Simple as that.  Why is this concept so hard to grasp?

        • Anonymous

          Yes but that is what EVERY phone does! They claim the Verizon phones can hit above 50mbps with there “real” 4G LTE network, uh… NO! NONE of these phones can hit the advertised capable speeds. What REALLY matters isn’t what you can tell people about what your phone CAN do it’s whether or not the phone will perform in such a way for YOU that works to your needs. I must agree that all this talk about this being an inferior phone without ANYONE having had the opportunity to try it out is ridiculous! To go back to the car analogies, you can stick a 327 in 4 different cars and depending on a LOT of other variables, you will get 4 different end results. Why don’t we wait until the phone is here and we’ve had the opportunity to test it out before we decide it sucks?

        • Anonymous

          That’s funny but would be really funny if it were true.. but it’s not, your analogy almost took off but then it nosedived and crashed under it’s own weight of fiction.

  • nerdlust

    Why the sad face? 1.5 42speed sounds good to me . When they are released I’m sure there will be plenty of comparisons. I’m sure samsung and tmobile will make sure this thing performs just as good if not better then the other models.

    • Anonymous

      Lol, there is no way Samsung will allow it to outperform their own processor that they were boasting as the best on the market at the launch party. The point is moot anyway as it cannot outperform Exynos.

      Exynos has already cleaned the floor of Crapdragon in numerous benchmarks

  • Anonymous

    Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t the first ever leak of the Hercules say it was a 1.5ghz processor? I remember the pics showing quadrant scores of about 3000+? 

    I know the 1.5ghz APQ8060 is technically a Sensation processor just bumped up, I’m assuming the difference between a Sensation Quadrant score of 2200 and a Hercules quadrant score of 3000+ has to do with the Sensation having the QHD screen. Hence the lower score vs the same processor in the Samsung Hercules. I’m no technical expert on processors but every site I’ve been to says a QHD screen will result in a lower Quadrant score due to the higher resolution. If this is true than everyday use should be excellent on the Hercules no QHD screen. I would still like to see a dogfight between all three models but until then I will reserve my judgment till we have further proof.

     Regardless I think the device will still scream and the samsung rep here in Chicago mentioned he is getting downloads of 25mbps on his Galaxy S2 Hercules. Keep in mind Chicago is a 42mbps Market and he showed me no proof on this score but he had no reason to lie to me. Either way I will be happy getting this if no proof of the Prime in T-mobiles future is revealed around the time of this launch. Everything I’ve seen online is showing a Verizon Launch of the Nexus Prime or Droid Prime:(

    • souggie

      Not necessarily. Hardware is a little different too…so….