Samsung Twitter Account Accidentally Spills Galaxy S II Processor Info?

It appears as though Samsung’s very own @GalaxySsupport Twitter account has let loose the processor that we will eventually find inside the T-Mobile bound Galaxy S II. PhoneDog reader @MedeirosMusic pinged the Samsung Galaxy S Twitter account about the processor only to be told it was a dual-core option. Well that answer didn’t suffice as Julian further pressed the Samsung account for an actual processor and got an answer: a 1.5GHz dual-core Qualcomm APQ8060 processor or exactly what people expected would be inside the phone.

Still, this isn’t what we’d consider absolute “confirmation” from Samsung even though we’d like to think this tweet accidentally let the cat out of the bag. The APQ8060 processor has been suggested as the possible Samsung Exynos replacement since it can be paired with the MDM8220 modem providing 42Mbps HSPA+ speeds for the T-Mobile variant of the Galaxy S II.

So now that Samsung has possibly spilled the beans, does this mean we can get a true hands on with the phone now?

PhoneDog via @SamsungSsupport

 

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  • Fray Contreras

    The Exynos crushes this.

  • IT Guy

    The funny thing here is people arguing about processors that are for real world purposes going to have negligable differences.

    Rather than worrying about a dropped frame or two while trying to squint and watch an HD movie on a 4.5″ screen, use the thing to call your friends. And watch the damn movie on your 50″ tv lol

    • souggie

      Sigh…you CLEARLY haven’t played with one yet…..

  • Spydee28

    Talked to T-MO tech, around my area the fastest cell site is only capable of 7.5mbps so I will never see 42. My wife has a sensation and the fastest speed test is 3.7mbps.

  • Anonymous

    Its the same thing every time something new comes out.

    People, either you get the phone or you don’t.  If you’re gonna base all your mobile purchases over the specs of ones on other carriers, then maybe you should switch. Either way it goes, ALL GS2′s will be outdated within the next few months. 

  • Feedb3at

    Samsung UI, fail…

  • Jerrold Clint Balansi

    If you don’t like it, then don’t buy… who is forcing you anyway? If you are dying for the exynos then go to ATT/Sprint/Verizon.

  • unknown

    Nothing to do with this but, nexus prime is a different device than the droid prime. I am not clearly sure if this is true but maybe tmo news would like to get into that. Difference is touchwiz ;-)

  • NBIQ

    What I find interesting about this discussion is how it highlights the importance of good hardware engineering at this time in mobile devices. For Android to continue to be successful, Google knows that it has to help create good kernel integrations for the variety of logic-board combinations.

    I think TMOBILE USA’s choice making is fine. It will be the hardware engineering execution that matters most. The phone should be fine, if well debugged.

    Thinking of problematic processors, wasn’t the G2X considered a fail? (Sadly? I had high hopes for that phone, but from what I’ve read will avoid it, even used.)

    Overall, I want a phone that doesn’t slow me down and NEVER crashes. Is that asking too much?

  • Anonymous

    I find it funny how all these so called experts are in here bashing this phone without anyone being able to actually test the phone.  I get why people are excited about the Exynos chipset based upon Quadrant standard scores, but seriously 95% of the people in here complaining will not use the phone to it’s full capacity anyway.  As someone stated in the beginning of the comment thread, it’s not as if this is unheard of in the phone industry.  The recently released bionic had the chip changed to a 1 Ghz DC TI OMAP chip to make sure it would play nice with Verizon LTE.  T-Mobile wanted their phone to be the fastest Galaxy S, which I’m certain will be their push following up the Galaxy S 4G which was at the time “the fastest 4G phone on the largest 4G network”.  At 42Mbps this phone will bring in speedtest results that wipe the floor with Sprint’s shoddy available nowhere WiMax fauxG network and AT&T’s intentionally gimped HSPA+ network.

    There are also a few people in here making some really stupid comments about peak speeds so I will spell it out one more time.  I would first like to point out though the irony in someone pretending to be techie enough to understand this than making stupid irrational comments.  

    Of course PEAK (key operative) throughput speeds are unattainable unless you are sitting under a tower in perfect conditions.  That’s why it’s called a peak speed.  The higher the peak theoretical speed however, the higher the ACTUAL real word speeds will be.  So on a 14.4 phone in a solid 42 Mbps 4G market you should expect results are 7-9 Mbps.  on a 21 Mbps device speeds of 10-15 Mbps and on a 42Mbps device, you’re looking at speeds and ping that will rival LTE in it’s current form;  Results of 22-33 Mbps.  How is that not better?  How does this not improve the phone?  

    The funny thing is if T-Mobile like AT&T had gotten the Exynos chip but the smaller screen, everyone would be complaining about the smaller screen.  If this phone were released at 21 Mbps, then we would be having the same conversation as we had when t-mobile flipped the switch on more 42Mbps markets (you can refer back to that thread if you don’t believe me) where everyone is complaining there are no 42Mbps phones on the network.  

    The point is I’ve stated countless times, people will always find something to complain out.  Before it was that tmo didnt have any “super phones” now the super phones are not super enough in the way that tickles your pickle in a super way.  It makes no sense.   Funny thing is I would say 98% of the people on this thread complaining about the lack of the Exynos chip or lauding it have never even used a GS2 of any kind.  

    Moral? Allow the phone to be released, if you like it, then buy it.  If not?  Well then don’t buy it and then spend your time in forums complaining about how you wish it wouldve had an Exynos.  Want the Exynos enough to pony up extra cash monthly and possibly get inferior service where you use your phone?  Go to Sprint and enjoy WiMax, then you’ll know why 42Mbps while you enjoy blazingly fast 3Mbps “4G” a la WiMax.

    • OKDave

      What you are missing in your thoughtful analysis is that when people are sold an item with a label that conveys a particular class of device, they have a reasonable expectation that device will be substantially the same as the same-named device from any other vendor. No matter what kind of sophistry used to explain away the differences, the exchange of the Exynos CPU for the Qualcomm CPU is a substantial technical difference. 

      If T-Mobile (or Samsung, for that matter) doesn’t want to be criticized for selling the SGS2-Lite with what amounts to an overclocked CPU, then it shouldn’t be trying to leverage the name and notoriety of SGS2. Call it something else. But they won’t do that, will they? They want to be sure and leverage the notoriety of the phone without actually providing the substance of that phone. If you sell me something with the word Porsche on the side, I’d better not open the hood and find an engine from a Yugo. Maybe its a *great* Yugo engine. I don’t give a darn if I never plan to use one *tenth* that engine’s capacity, it’s about the expectation that goes with a name in general, and a specific model in particular.

      I completely understand how the 42Mbps speed increases the top practical speed for the phone over a 21Mbps phone, and surely that’s a great boost. And I have no doubt this will be a nice phone. But to imply that it will have performance characteristics as the *other* phones being sold *with the same brand name and model* is disingenuous. It won’t. This phone has developed literally worldwide notoriety for its performance characteristics as sold in its original configuration, yet we know we know that we’re being sold the same *name* with a different configuration. And we also know that phones with similar processors as this “reconfigured” SGS2 won’t perform the same as the device everyone *else* will be getting. It doesn’t take a tech whiz to realize they’re overclocking the Qualcomm CPU in the T-Mobile edition to at least try make up the difference in performance.For heaven’s sake, there’s a reason the Exynos CPU is heralded as it is, because it is a superior CPU. 

      When you change the screen and the processor of a phone (and what else?), at some point it isn’t an SGS2 anymore. And that’s why I assert that the monker of SGS2-Lite is entirely appropriate. 

      • JT

        One thing I think you are missing is Samsung is not going to let a manufacturer put junk in their product.  It is not their name on the product …it is Samsung’s name just like Porsche will make sure the manufacturers they work with meet their standards.

        • souggie

          You must not remember the Samsung behold….the problem isn’t Samsung, its tmobile having to change almost everything about an already superior phone all the time. The gs2 with exynos soundly defeated my sensation in real world use, but in terms of Web speed there was maybe 1-2 mbps difference between the two, and I was in downtown Atlanta where the 4g signal is very strong, that’s why it’d such a big deal. Exynos’s power is seen clearly in day to day usage. If you google the specs on the apq 8060, you’ll find that its just the modem less version of the dual core snapdragon that’s inside the sensation. THAT, my friend is unacceptable.

        • Setzer715

          Your comparing apples and oranges.  The Sensation is running Sense 3.0 which, in my experience using it on other phones, will bring any phone to it’s knees.  Touchwiz is a VERY basic OS in comparison to Sense 3.0 and thus uses less resources to operate.  The reason, which I’m sure you know, for the snapdragon processor is so they can couple it with a 42Mbps chip.  You say you didn’t see a difference in browsing and I can understand that, but what is the point of building out a 42Mbps network if your not going to sell 42Mbps phones?  Clearly the reason for the high speeds is not web browsing but for video chat, multimedia, file download/upload.

          On another note, the snapdragon processor is just as fast as the Exynos, there just isn’t a real world comparison for them.  2 different phones by 2 different manufactures with 2 VERY different operating systems is not in any means a good comparison (Sensation vs SGSII).  NO one in the computer would would accept the stats in that configuration.  They would want to see each CPU tested in the same setup (device) to truly know how they match up.

          Beyond that, it has been discovered, by developers, that the kernel on the Sensation is not truly using the snapdragon in dual core mode.  It in fact maxes out the speed of the first core before utilizing the second core while the SGSII kernel uses each core simultaneously.  Another reason the snapdragon “feels” slower.  So again, its NOT the snapdragon but HTC and their software.

        • Anonymous

          The Samsung Behold has nothing to do with anything.  It was a lame attempt at a smartphone by a company that had previously not made smartphones.  Everyone’s got to start somewhere. You cant compare a Sensation to a GS2, they are not the same phone.  The more I hear people trying to draw this comparison the more it makes me wonder how any of you think this is a valid comparison.

        • Tommy

          Okay that is true, but look at the Vibrant, hardly any updates. Can that compare?

        • Anonymous

          The Samsung Behold has nothing to do with anything.  It was a lame attempt at a smartphone by a company that had previously not made smartphones.  Everyone’s got to start somewhere. You cant compare a Sensation to a GS2, they are not the same phone.  The more I hear people trying to draw this comparison the more it makes me wonder how any of you think this is a valid comparison.

        • Anonymous

          The Samsung Behold has nothing to do with anything.  It was a lame attempt at a smartphone by a company that had previously not made smartphones.  Everyone’s got to start somewhere. You cant compare a Sensation to a GS2, they are not the same phone.  The more I hear people trying to draw this comparison the more it makes me wonder how any of you think this is a valid comparison.

        • Anonymous

          The Samsung Behold has nothing to do with anything.  It was a lame attempt at a smartphone by a company that had previously not made smartphones.  Everyone’s got to start somewhere. You cant compare a Sensation to a GS2, they are not the same phone.  The more I hear people trying to draw this comparison the more it makes me wonder how any of you think this is a valid comparison.

      • Anonymous

        @30a239fa091504636bb4ce4d749e964d:disqus While i appreciate the fact that you actually took the time to string together a clearly well thought out reponse, you still have holes in your theory.

        The original GS2 as most people know it is running an Exynos chipset, with a Super Amoled Screen, HSPA 21Mbps, Its XX mm thin and XX inches in height along with NFC support.

        The Sprint version does not support NFC, the UK version also does not support NFC.  Should they slap a different title on their phone because it does not have NFC?  

        When this phone was released, they said not all territories would get the Exynos chip, there is a variant of this phone released in India with the same build size and everything except it sports a Tegra chip.  It is still sold as the GS2.

        Apple uses displays from LG, Sharp and Hitachi in their ipads.  Do they sell iPad LG? iPad Sharp?  

        Even the MT4G had some displays that were by Sharp and some from a different manufacturer.  

        Point is this is not new, and it is far from a Galaxy S lite.  Samsung would not stick something in their phone that they didnt have 100% confidence behind or something they think would denigrate the “Galaxy S” namesake.

        I think a lot of people are over reacting and just need to SEE/USE the phone first.  If you’re dissatisfied don’t purchase it.  That’s it.  I think this mutiny against a yet to be released phone is something that could only happen on this site.

        • OKDave

          Bill, I think you make some very valid points.

          Perhaps what we’re seeing here is that there’s a spectrum of components and configurations at hand, and at one extreme you have absolutely identical hardware components everywhere in a given device, and at the other end you have substantially different, but all falling under the same name. The question becomes at what point in that spectrum is it still appropriate to give all those devices the same name, eg which subcomponent change “breaks the camel’s back” as it were and compels someone to say, “okay, this really isn’t an XYZ anymore.”

          This discussion reminds me of the hot water GM found itself in several years ago when someone wrote about the fact that they put engines manufactured by various divisions in a particular vehicle line. It was commonplace for GM to make “twins” of various models among their brand names, so the engines were essentially identical, but were given a nomenclature difference that someone said was a degree of misrepresentation. Been a long time ago, so I don’t recall the details, but the notion is the same – the line that distinguishes between two devices and, consequently, whether they should be sold under the same name when the components “under the hood” differ, is fuzzy rather than bright.

          For me, I think a processor change is *very* significant, only because I understand how this phone’s performance (and, thus, its notoriety) is tied directly to its host CPU, but obviously others disagree.

          I will be very interested in hearing/reading the results of some real-world tests. That said, the more I stare at my pitiful, antique ol’ MyTouch 3G as it helplessly stares at me with its 512Mhz CPU and gasping for air at nearly every turn, I a new toaster would probably have better processing power :)

          -David

        • Setzer715

          You make a good point Dave and that brings me to another way to look at it.  Think of Ford Motor Company (since you brought up automotive) and the variety of vehicles they sell regularly in England.  They have the same name, and most times the same body but OFTEN have different engines, different options and different pricing.  A Ford Focus is still a Ford Focus but may/is VERY different in another country.

        • Setzer715

          You make a good point Dave and that brings me to another way to look at it.  Think of Ford Motor Company (since you brought up automotive) and the variety of vehicles they sell regularly in England.  They have the same name, and most times the same body but OFTEN have different engines, different options and different pricing.  A Ford Focus is still a Ford Focus but may/is VERY different in another country.

      • Anonymous

        @30a239fa091504636bb4ce4d749e964d:disqus While i appreciate the fact that you actually took the time to string together a clearly well thought out reponse, you still have holes in your theory.

        The original GS2 as most people know it is running an Exynos chipset, with a Super Amoled Screen, HSPA 21Mbps, Its XX mm thin and XX inches in height along with NFC support.

        The Sprint version does not support NFC, the UK version also does not support NFC.  Should they slap a different title on their phone because it does not have NFC?  

        When this phone was released, they said not all territories would get the Exynos chip, there is a variant of this phone released in India with the same build size and everything except it sports a Tegra chip.  It is still sold as the GS2.

        Apple uses displays from LG, Sharp and Hitachi in their ipads.  Do they sell iPad LG? iPad Sharp?  

        Even the MT4G had some displays that were by Sharp and some from a different manufacturer.  

        Point is this is not new, and it is far from a Galaxy S lite.  Samsung would not stick something in their phone that they didnt have 100% confidence behind or something they think would denigrate the “Galaxy S” namesake.

        I think a lot of people are over reacting and just need to SEE/USE the phone first.  If you’re dissatisfied don’t purchase it.  That’s it.  I think this mutiny against a yet to be released phone is something that could only happen on this site.

      • Anonymous

        Thank you! You make way more sense billibolas.

      • Anonymous

        Thank you! You make way more sense billibolas.

      • Anonymous

        The Scorpion Dual Cores stock speed is actually 1.5ghz, not 1.2. So it’s really not being O/C’ed at all.

    • JT

      Finally someone with some common sense.  I agree with you 100%. I read these forums to learn, but lately all I read are complaints.  screen too big, not big enough, it’s square, its round, they don’t offer it in purple or my favorite color, WOW it’s 10mbps and now it’s too slow.  It is a fact that you will never please everyone because we all want more and more and more. If a manufacturer were to make a phone to fit everyone’s needs and wants they would have hundreds of designs and features for just one phone, but unfortunately they can’t.  If the i-phone were so great then why are they now offering the i-phone 5.  It is because they have to keep up with the tech world, improve current features and offer new features.  It is funny how you can go back 6 months and read old posts where a new feature is the best in the world and now it absolutely sucks.  Unfortunately 6 months from now the current features your excited about now will suck then and you will have something new to complain about…..

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Paul-Reed/1530570047 Paul Reed

      sprint doesn’t really cost more than tmobile…

      • Anonymous

        It actually does, if you are comparing plans that arent alike, like calling any mobile number vs calling any number unlimited then that’s inaccurate.  Even if you compare that plan vs. the Value Plan and the phone EIP it still comes out cheaper on tmo.  I was actually referring to AT&T also though.  I just like picking on Sprint.

  • http://profiles.google.com/christopher.c.caldwell Christopher caldwell

    wish it was tegra!!

  • Danny

    I’m a little confused why everyone is so upset about the processor on this phone. Every other site Iv’e looked at seem to praise T Mobile for having the first 1.5GHz dual core processor on a phone.
    Am I missing something but wouldn’t a dual core 1.5GHz be faster than a dual core 1.2GHz?

    • Anonymous

      No the 1.2 Exynos is still faster, clock speeds don’t necessarily mean faster.

  • tommy

    Wait a second… isn’t the APQ8060 cortex A9 as well??

  • tommy

    Wait a second… isn’t the APQ8060 cortex A9 as well??

    • souggie

      Nope…

    • Chow_yun

      It is an Cortex a9

    • Pappasan D

      Is it or isn’t it guys.. LOL.. Google-Fu here I come.

  • Anonymous

    I’m a little confused why everyone is so upset about the processor on this phone…@PWRuser:disqus I just got a $829.99 iPad2 for only $103.37 and my mom got a $1499.99 HDTV for only $251.92, they are both coming with USPS tomorrow. I would be an idiot to ever pay full retail prices at places like Walmart or Bestbuy. I sold a 37″ HDTV to my boss for $600 that I only paid $78.24 for. I use  

  • Anonymous

    I’m a little confused why everyone is so upset about the processor on this phone…@PWRuser:disqus I just got a $829.99 iPad2 for only $103.37 and my mom got a $1499.99 HDTV for only $251.92, they are both coming with USPS tomorrow. I would be an idiot to ever pay full retail prices at places like Walmart or Bestbuy. I sold a 37″ HDTV to my boss for $600 that I only paid $78.24 for. I use  

  • Eagles4lyfe

    Forget about the processor.. I just hope they don’t get rid of the physical home button.

    • Anonymous

      The home button is gone, there is pics of the phone up on this site. Have a look

  • PhewizZo

    Its funny how everyone talks about the Snapdragons 1.2 ghz processors when they have been benchmarked only on QHD screens getting a lower rating. I bet if Exynos was popped into a phone that has a QHD screen it will get 2200-2400 scores in Quadrant also. We will wait to see when the phone comes out and is benchmarked. I BET anyone that 1.5 8060 processor in that 800×480 Super amoled plus screen will FLY and get 3000+ also. Everyone talks crap about benchmarks, comparing a Sensation with a QHD screen scored with a Galaxy S2 with a 800×480 screens score. You guys dont know what the hell ya are talking about…..

    • Sswicho

      Finally someone said it, plus htc sense is alot heavier than touchwiz.

    • Sswicho

      Finally someone said it, plus htc sense is alot heavier than touchwiz.

      • Kevinmarchibald

        Sense probably has more of an impact than the screen technology. I thought the myTouch 4G Slide was going to perform a little better and have a little better battery life than the Sensation because the Slide used a smaller, lower rez screen. But reviewers found that not to be the case, and the culprit was suspected to be Sense, with the Slide using a slightly different version of Sense than the Sensation. Hence I’m not as interested in the Amaze 4G now that it’s rumored to have
        the same cpu/gpu as the Hercules, with Sense (and to a lesser extent,
        qHD) to bog it down.

        I don’t doubt that an overclocked Snapdragon with TouchWiz will perform better at most things than the Sensation, not so sure as well as the Exynos, especially in ways that are important to me.The main benchmarks I will look at to decide whether to get the T-Mobile SGS2 will be browser-related tests, and how it handles loading, resizing and Flash in multiple tabs. The Exynos-based SGS2 has a hardware accelerated browser that beats the pants of other phones, and that’s what I want most. Samsung could still offer that with the Qualcomm SoC, but I have my doubts based on my previous employer’s experience working with Qualcomm (have less doubts about the Nexus Prime).

        A minor worry is the possible delay in getting phone updates due to the different hardware combination than the other US/Euro/etc carriers. Wondering if more reliable updates would occur with the Nexus Prime.

        Just don’t want to wait longer than the end of October for a new phone. Been window shopping and waiting since March. Going to check out the SGS2 at Sprint this weekend.

    • http://profiles.google.com/tran.mikey Mike Tran

      See you’ve lost respect already when you mentioned Quadrants.. rofl.

      • Anonymous

        You do realize that most of the people complaining about the chip switch on this site are referring to benchmark scores right?  

      • Anonymous

        You do realize that most of the people complaining about the chip switch on this site are referring to benchmark scores right?  

    • http://profiles.google.com/tran.mikey Mike Tran

      See you’ve lost respect already when you mentioned Quadrants.. rofl.

  • Tanvirul

    this is basically a sensation…. and after overclocking my sensation to 1.7 ghz and putting on custom roms, i prefer it to anything, i get 2 days of battery life and close to 3500 benchmark score

  • Djjohnnybraciole

    1.5!?!?!?!?!? Dude its almost as fast as a netbook. Soon there gunna ask intel to start making processors.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1365201707 Faizan Khan

      intel is already

  • Anonymous

    ,. this is nice..,
    I just got a $829.99 iPad2 for only $103.37 and my mom got a $1499.99 HTV for only $251.92, they are both coming tomorrow. I would be an idiot to ever pay full retail prîces at places like Walmart or Bestbuy. I sold a 37″ HTV to my boss for $600 that I only paid $78.24 for.
    I use EgoWïn.com

  • Anonymous

    you should learn how to spell porsche first… 

  • Anonymous

    Then there’s no reason to get this over the HTC Amaze 4G other than SAMOLED+. HTC Sense > Touchwiz, so I know which phone I’m choosing…

    HTC Sensation, which I will overclock. :)