AT&T Prepares Two-Track Plan Hoping To Save T-Mobile Takeover Deal

With the Department of Justice lawsuit setting AT&T back on their plan to quickly finalize their $39 billion dollar proposed takeover of T-Mobile, they are preparing a “two-track” plan to save the deal. AT&T hopes that any such two-track plan will allow them to find a settlement that will stop the lawsuit from reaching court.

“AT&T is pretty determined that they can find a solution, and they are pretty confident,” one of the sources said, requesting anonymity as the talks are private.

While the exact details of the two-track plan are unknown Reuters is reporting that the first part of the offer is for AT&T to guarantee that it won’t raise the prices of T-Mobile’s current voice and data services. The second part of the two-track plan is for AT&T to divest up to 25% of T-Mobile’s spectrum and customer base. A major concern expressed by government regulators is that AT&T would control more than 50% of 17 different markets  across the US should the T-Mobile deal complete. It is unclear who would be eligible to purchase these assets as the anti-trust teams at the government are unlikely to let Verizon and Sprint scoop up every last bit of divested T-Mobile assets and customers. Regional carriers might not have the assets to pick up divestitures from T-Mobile so it will be quite interesting to see how AT&T will present this deal to regulators.

AT&T has furthermore asked for an expedited hearing with the Justice Department and the randomly selected Judge, U.S. District Judge Ellen Segal Huvelle has a reputation for speedy rulings. One source from the Reuters story expects that the case could go before a judge in as little as two months.

“It is always scary to go off to litigation. I suppose there’s a chance that the government could get cold feet,” said Stephen Calkins, who teaches law at Wayne State University.

It’s clear that AT&T is preparing to fight this deal down to its last breath and Deutsche Telekom, with no Plan B for T-Mobile post-AT&T talks is following AT&T wherever they may lead. AT&T is obviously hoping to avoid paying Deutsche Telekom $6 billion in cash and other assets as part of an arrangement should the deal fall through and will use all the money and lawyers at its disposal to continue this fight.

Reuters 

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  • Ngcampbell

    Att is in bed with the government so this deal will go through

    • Bitrow26

      DOJ is the Gov… Thanks Obama for ruining our lives once again… ATT has every right to buy what they want no matter how crappy they may be..

      NOBama 2012

      • Jim

        Actually if you had bothered to read the coverage on this on Bloomberg, Reuters etc. you would know that the White House had nothing to do with this. That question was asked and answered at a press conference: DOJ moved unilaterally without White House approval.

        • Anonymous

          @Bitrow26 But to pin Obama because of it..? The only thing you’re doing is making your own manipulated type look worse. How are our lives ruined because AT&T isn’t going to monopolize the gsm market and take over tmo? You’re flagged for stupidity bro…

        • Anonymous

          @Bitrow26 But to pin Obama because of it..? The only thing you’re doing is making your own manipulated type look worse. How are our lives ruined because AT&T isn’t going to monopolize the gsm market and take over tmo? You’re flagged for stupidity bro…

        • Anonymous

          @Bitrow26 But to pin Obama because of it..? The only thing you’re doing is making your own manipulated type look worse. How are our lives ruined because AT&T isn’t going to monopolize the gsm market and take over tmo? You’re flagged for stupidity bro…

      • Jim

        Actually if you had bothered to read the coverage on this on Bloomberg, Reuters etc. you would know that the White House had nothing to do with this. That question was asked and answered at a press conference: DOJ moved unilaterally without White House approval.

      • Nevsky

        That is not correct.  Not only is there long-standing anti-trust law, but we are dealing with public airwaves.  They should not be in the hands of a monopolist (for GSM and  de facto duopolist otherwise).  Also, wireless communication is essential in the 21st century.  It is a public asset and must be used as such.  It should not be controlled by one company. In no other major country in the world is there a GSM monopolist. 

    • Jim

      …and so is Verizon, who are paying a ton of money to their own pet politicians to oppose the deal. This is a war of lobbyists at the end of the day.

    • Jim

      …and so is Verizon, who are paying a ton of money to their own pet politicians to oppose the deal. This is a war of lobbyists at the end of the day.

  • 30014

    As long as my plan is guaranteed I can live with the deal going through. That has to happen for this deal to have any chance.

  • 30014

    As long as my plan is guaranteed I can live with the deal going through. That has to happen for this deal to have any chance.

  • Mastrorj

     (yawn) At&t deal…yada yada yada…Wake me when its over and instructions on how to take it. Hard and fast or slow and easy lol?

  • Mastrorj

     (yawn) At&t deal…yada yada yada…Wake me when its over and instructions on how to take it. Hard and fast or slow and easy lol?

  • Anonymous

    First sentence I think you mean T-Mobile

    ‘ finalize their $39 billion dollar proposed takeover of AT&T’

    • Anonymous

       Refresh

    • http://tmonews.com David

      I did haha, Inuyasha helped me catch that mistake!

  • Anonymous

    First sentence I think you mean T-Mobile

    ‘ finalize their $39 billion dollar proposed takeover of AT&T’

  • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

    Seems that T-mobile is gone anyway, why is no one saying what happens with T-mobile if the deal falls through?

    • http://www.facebook.com/Blestsol Michael Williams

      they are saying it, Tmobile gets 6billion and it can use that to get better.

      Are people just not reading?

      • Dewey Cox

        Yes we are reading.
         Are you comprehending?

         The question is who else will buy them? What will DT do with us now?
         DT DOES NOT WANT T-Mobile USA any longer.6 billion or not, they want out of the U.S.

        • Anonymous

          Good Grief Dewey . If TMO was just going to up and fold do you honestly believe AT&T would have overpaid for T-Mobile . Ofcourse other companies were interested .

        • Dewey Cox

          I never said we would fold. I am asking what now? I think the “what will they do with us now?’” part would indicate possible new suitors.

        • Dewey Cox

          I never said we would fold. I am asking what now? I think the “what will they do with us now?’” part would indicate possible new suitors.

      • ColdFeet

        I don’t recall T-Mobile saying anything about what they plan on doing if the deal falls through. Yeah, DT gets 6 billion. But that doesn’t mean that they’re going to use that to improve T-Mobile USA.

        • Anonymous

          I bet they blown that money on fur coats and sports cars .

        • ogopogo

          And techno music.

        • Jeffery Richards737

          Actually, they get approx 3 billion cash and another 3+ billion “worth” of spectrum and deeply discounted roaming agreements. So yes, DT could walk away with $3B cash but the remaining amount completely belongs to TMO USA.

        • Anonymous

          …who is owned by DT.

        • Jeffery Richards737

          Correct, but I was replying to the comment that DT won’t necessarily re-invest $6B in TMO USA…the $3B+ in spectrum and roaming is automatically a “re-investment” but the $3B cash doesn’t have to be re-invested.

        • torres351

          Thanks for clarifying that.

        • torres351

          Thanks for clarifying that.

        • JustMe

          $3B in cash – obviously, DT can put that wherever they wish. Their pockets, T-Mo USA capital investments, etc.

          But, the $3B in spectrum is not that much different than cash. It can easily be sold, too. Again, no guarantee that T-Mo USA will benefit from that either.

          The roaming agreements seem to be the only thing that is exclusively beneficial to T-Mo USA.

        • JustMe

          $3B in cash – obviously, DT can put that wherever they wish. Their pockets, T-Mo USA capital investments, etc.

          But, the $3B in spectrum is not that much different than cash. It can easily be sold, too. Again, no guarantee that T-Mo USA will benefit from that either.

          The roaming agreements seem to be the only thing that is exclusively beneficial to T-Mo USA.

        • Jeffery Richards737

          True, but the spectrum is AWS which has a limited audience to sell to…not saying they wouldn’t, but keeping the spectrum increases the company (TMO USA) value to a potential buyer so it is unlikely that DT would sell off that spectrum separately.

        • Jeffery Richards737

          True, but the spectrum is AWS which has a limited audience to sell to…not saying they wouldn’t, but keeping the spectrum increases the company (TMO USA) value to a potential buyer so it is unlikely that DT would sell off that spectrum separately.

      • Anonymous

        I like your optimism.

        • torres351

          I’m very optimistic actually, but given what I’ve read, that just seems to be DT’s possition.  I know I don’t want the deal to go through which, at this point, seems to be going in the right direction. I’m optimistic that if/when the deal falls through, a company will step up to the plate that can create a situation that is beneficial for both Tmobile and its customers.

        • torres351

          I’m very optimistic actually, but given what I’ve read, that just seems to be DT’s possition.  I know I don’t want the deal to go through which, at this point, seems to be going in the right direction. I’m optimistic that if/when the deal falls through, a company will step up to the plate that can create a situation that is beneficial for both Tmobile and its customers.

      • torres351

        Actually, Deutsche Telekom gets 6 billion, not Tmobile.  They could reinvest that money, but they probably wont.  They also get some extra band width out of it, which they’ll probably thrown in to the mix to sweaten the deal with whomever they decide to buisness with, should the take over not go through.

      • torres351

        Actually, Deutsche Telekom gets 6 billion, not Tmobile.  They could reinvest that money, but they probably wont.  They also get some extra band width out of it, which they’ll probably thrown in to the mix to sweaten the deal with whomever they decide to buisness with, should the take over not go through.

      • torres351

        Actually, Deutsche Telekom gets 6 billion, not Tmobile.  They could reinvest that money, but they probably wont.  They also get some extra band width out of it, which they’ll probably thrown in to the mix to sweaten the deal with whomever they decide to buisness with, should the take over not go through.

  • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

    Seems that T-mobile is gone anyway, why is no one saying what happens with T-mobile if the deal falls through?

  • Wendy

    I am not sure if it would help but why not throw in a clause for the customers of TMobile and AT and T if they are not happy with the takeover and new entity that ALL customers would be allowed up to one year to get out of their contracts free and clear?  That would open up other cell companies to offer promotions to “come to them. 

  • Rfgenerator

    Any deal to protect the pricing of plans for current T-Mobile customers needs to be examined VERY carefully as “A Fee & Fee” will no doubt be building in loopholes.  You want to upgrade your phone, sorry you have to pick a new more expensive plan, you need to add or remove a line? yup you guessed it invalidates your old plan and you need to pick a new one.  Any offers made by ATT needs to be examined with great caution.

    • IT Guy

      You’re probably right. I’m sure if the deal was to be approved, one of the conditions would be that they honor current contracts, but I have no doubt they’d make you move to one of “their” plans the first time you upgrade phones.

      That being said, even if some other company ends up buying T-Mobile, it’s going to the be the same way. We’re not going to see ridiculously cheap plans anymore either way.

      • Anonymous

        since we are “merging” and this is what’s “best for T-Mobile subscribers” then AT&T should have no problem agreeing to let the people who were on T-Mobile keep those plans AND keep it through upgrades.

        This will probably be a requirement for the deal to pass.

      • Anonymous

        since we are “merging” and this is what’s “best for T-Mobile subscribers” then AT&T should have no problem agreeing to let the people who were on T-Mobile keep those plans AND keep it through upgrades.

        This will probably be a requirement for the deal to pass.

        • IT Guy

          I could see them being forced to honor contracts through at least one phone upgrade, or for a certain number of years. Even more so if the T-Mobile 3g/4g bands are removed.

          Beyond that, migrating customers wouldn’t be treated any different than ATT ones.

        • Anonymous

          I agree.

          My question is, does any carrier force you into a different minute/text plan just because of a phone upgrade? 

           I can kinda understand going from a Cliq to an AT&T “Samsung Behemoth LTE Android 4.0 ” phone and having to change your data plan but that still shouldn’t affect your grandfathered minute plan.

        • IT Guy

          I guess we’ll just have to see what they rule. Assuming it gets that far.

          /this stuff gives me a headache

        • IT Guy

          I guess we’ll just have to see what they rule. Assuming it gets that far.

          /this stuff gives me a headache

        • BigMixxx

          Remember,  they said UPFRONT, using that spectrum for LTE deployment.  that plan does not change…

        • BigMixxx

          Remember,  they said UPFRONT, using that spectrum for LTE deployment.  that plan does not change…

      • Anonymous

        since we are “merging” and this is what’s “best for T-Mobile subscribers” then AT&T should have no problem agreeing to let the people who were on T-Mobile keep those plans AND keep it through upgrades.

        This will probably be a requirement for the deal to pass.

      • Anonymous

        since we are “merging” and this is what’s “best for T-Mobile subscribers” then AT&T should have no problem agreeing to let the people who were on T-Mobile keep those plans AND keep it through upgrades.

        This will probably be a requirement for the deal to pass.

    • Anonymous

      So what are they saying they will keep T-Mobile’s current plans forever and never raise them either?  They aint foolin nobody.

      • JBLmobileG1

        Noticed how they said “current”. I doubt they mean all plans including grandfathered ones which most loyal customers have.

        • Anonymous

          Slick.  I didn’t even think about that.  There’s no way that will fly cuz they might as well be saying that more than 50% of TMO subscribers will have to adjust their plan price.

  • Anonymous

    I dont think they can make the deal unless they sell off 40% of t-mobile

  • Anonymous

    Unless this deal can create a new nationwide GSM carrier its not gonna happen.  The fact that the DOJ pointed out that regional carriers are a less attractive and sometimes an unavailable option means that AT&T would have to somehow create a replacement for T-Mobile as a 4th Nationwide option.

    • BigMixxx

      COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU THERE!  @PimpStrong:disqus  

    • BigMixxx

      COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU THERE!  @PimpStrong:disqus  

  • Anonymous

    How about you merge both companies and the split them into half.. to maintain 2 GSM and 2 CDMA operators. I mean, forgetting about merging, we gottu to SPLIT at&T

  • Lunardragonofdarkness

    Hahaha good luck with that AT&T!  The last thing we need is more crappy network coverage and more poor customer service to the American people!

  • Rob Reder

    I don’t believe for a second that DT doesn’t have a contingency plan. They’ve no doubt had once in place since before the buyout talks began. Of course they’re keeping it under wraps, you don’t leak your plan B when plan A is still on the table.

    • jon

      Their plan “a” was to purchase the controlling percentage in clearwire. Those talks went on for years and when sprint continued to drag its feet on the deal, t-mobile went to plan “b” in at&t…who knows where this goes from here…maybe sprint will open allow dt to puchase clearwire. Maybe at&t deal goes through. Maybe dt has a change of heart an uses the 6billion in cash and spectrum to build out their own lte and overhaul their pathetic marketing dept…at this point your odds are better at winning power ball than predicting the end result here.

      • jon

        Btw, can all of you saying dt “obviously doesn’t want t-mobile” or “dt wants out of the us wirless market” please shut up. If dt wanted out of the us wirless market, why would they want a 9% stake in at&t? Dt doesn’t want out. They want profits coming out of their us interests.

        • IT Guy

          They don’t want to run a carrier in the US market. That’s different from making money off of AT&T stock.

        • IT Guy

          They don’t want to run a carrier in the US market. That’s different from making money off of AT&T stock.

        • jon

          You don’t think having the largest stake in at&t gives them very strong influence in the company’s direction and a few seats on the board of directors? Come on….this isn’t a 401k investment..lol

    • Havoktek

      Agreed, any major corp worth their salt has a plan B, however I think AT&T have put the majority of their chips in plan “A” so now they’ve got to rally.
      Beware of Corporations that have to rally from a down position, they have a tendacy to fight there way back up. At the cost of the client.

  • Rob Reder

    I don’t believe for a second that DT doesn’t have a contingency plan. They’ve no doubt had once in place since before the buyout talks began. Of course they’re keeping it under wraps, you don’t leak your plan B when plan A is still on the table.

  • Rob Reder

    I don’t believe for a second that DT doesn’t have a contingency plan. They’ve no doubt had once in place since before the buyout talks began. Of course they’re keeping it under wraps, you don’t leak your plan B when plan A is still on the table.

  • Rob Reder

    I don’t believe for a second that DT doesn’t have a contingency plan. They’ve no doubt had once in place since before the buyout talks began. Of course they’re keeping it under wraps, you don’t leak your plan B when plan A is still on the table.

  • Anonymous

    The thing I don’t understand about all this is we assumed att would have to make sacrifices if they hoped to get this deal approved……..why is the doj being so heavy handed here? ATT has been at their mercy the whole time…..along with the fcc. Couldn’t the doj just say “this is what needs to happen to gain our approval” instead of filing a lawsuit?

    • IT Guy

      They know how unpopular this deal is with T-Mobile customers, and how it’ll leave us with one national GSM carrier, but they also know that DT has been trying to peddle T-Mobile for two years, and have only found two parties serious enough to make an offer. They’re not stupid, and see the writing on the wall.

      Call me deluded, but I wonder how much of this is a political hand waving on the part of the Obama administration. The DOJ can have their dog and pony show, and the administration can show that it’s trying to help the consumer, but in the long run they’ll let it pass. They are smart enough to know that T-Mobile’s future without AT&T is just as bleak as it is with them.

      • Anonymous

        Makes sense.

      • RevenG

        Really? You’re blaming Obama for this too? Don’t you have anything better to do with your life than ponder some absurd conservative conspiracy? If you really want AT&T that bad, why don’t you cancel your T-Mobile contract and go join them. Then we will see how much you like them. They didn’t get the Death Star nickname just for the hell of it. I’d rather seem them merge with Sprint than get acquired by AT&T.

      • RevenG

        Really? You’re blaming Obama for this too? Don’t you have anything better to do with your life than ponder some absurd conservative conspiracy? If you really want AT&T that bad, why don’t you cancel your T-Mobile contract and go join them. Then we will see how much you like them. They didn’t get the Death Star nickname just for the hell of it. I’d rather seem them merge with Sprint than get acquired by AT&T.

      • Nevsky

        Don’t you realize how bad this would be for businesses large and small if it were to go through?  Not even Walmart would have much clout in a negotiation with AT&T for GSM Service. AT&T could say to Walmart as well as a mom and pop store, “take it or leave it.”  

        Also the “promises” about not raising rates for existing customers (putting aside how unfair it would be to everyone else getting their rates jacked up, including existing AT&T customers) would we very hollow.  The minute you want a new phone or a new line or whatever, AT&T would demand a new higher rate plan.

        Do not forget that the wireless spectrum is a public asset and it should not be run by a monopolist. 

        The Obama administration made a good business and policy decision for individual consumers as well as businesses.

  • T-Mobile FTW

    I know one thing is for sure DT really doesn’t care for us anymore so I hope Google buys T-Mobile once ATT get’s denied.

    • Jeffery Richards737

      Pretty sure Google is out of the running due to their recent purchase of Motorola. I’m pretty sure I read that the FCC has rules against handset manufacturers owning provider services. Google bought Motorola for their patents so there is little chance they would then sell them off to meet the requirements to buy TMO.

    • Jeffery Richards737

      Pretty sure Google is out of the running due to their recent purchase of Motorola. I’m pretty sure I read that the FCC has rules against handset manufacturers owning provider services. Google bought Motorola for their patents so there is little chance they would then sell them off to meet the requirements to buy TMO.

  • stephen

    When I first read the Reuters article yesterday my heart sank.  But stepping back…there is nothing unexpected here, or said differently, this is exactly what you would and should expect AT&T’s gameplan to be:  gear up to fight, while seeing if they can avoid the fight.   I slept better.

  • Enoel69

    Beware of the snake oil sales pitch…do everything n say everything to get it done. A couple of yrs down the road…the true colors will emerge and the milking for every byte, text, and voice minutes will be in effect. The prudent thing is to keep all four networks to ensure enough competition for the millions of customers. Give the OK for the Att purchase of the Qualcomm spectrum and also the FCC should fast track the availability of more spectrum for auction. There are more and more devices that require data now and in the coming years. Also read of a new visionary wireless tech presented by the CEO of Onlive which can greatly alleviate our data crunch if brought to fruition. 

  • Anonymous

    I see ATT will start to buy people outside of the us like mx and canada

  • Anonymous

    I see ATT will start to buy people outside of the us like mx and canada

  • Anonymous

    I don’t care what reason the US Court denies AT&T this buy out, just do not allow this deal to go thru. One GSM carrier in the US is a disgrace and a big time failure to the US customers. AT&T will lie and promise the world just like they do to their customers. AT&T is huge, in the Boston area the service is still 2nd rate. I am listed in their HSPA+ area but my data speeds don’t even reach 650 killabitts. We are talking about a huge market in the heart of the tech business where you can not make a freaken phone call without loosing connection. This is just unacceptable today. If the # 4 rated carrier T-Mobile is pushing out in our area over 8 MB download data speeds but AT&T’s data speeds are not even reaching 1 MB. There is some serious problems. AT&T is pathetic.

  • doesnt add up

    Any offer by ATT to not raise prices for current TMO customers is still anti-competitive. Any and all future customers will not be able to take advantage of that offering and is still anti-competitive future looking.  I.E. a year from now you can’t just ask for the tmo rate because I thought about getting a tmo line sometime back when…  Can’t see how that offering is going to appease the regulators.

    As far as selling off portions of tmobile, it will still leave 3 national carriers, and most likely a few small carriers with some more spectrum and customers, but still uncompetitive nationally.

    In addition how fiscally responsible is it to buy a company for 39b, then sell small chunks off at the real market value (much lower per customer), will the shareholders of att like taking a bath on that?  
    Lets say they sell 40% of 15.6b of their purchase to smaller operators. 

     Tmo is estimated worth at most 18b. so that portion may sell for at most $7.2b.  At that rate att shareholders are losing 8.4b.  Highly doubt they are going to eat that cost, the most they will offer on the table to lose is $6b which is their breakup fee, anything more will just cost more money.  The most they will offer to sell will be 15% to not incur any more costs, and if they do it will just make their case look worse that they are intentionally trying to knock out a competitor by paying a premium. (although they already did that with their leaked 3.8b buildout figure lol)

    Will selling 15% satisfy the regulators?  You be the judge on that one.

    • doesnt add up

      sorry typo Lets say they sell 40% OR 15.6b of their purchase to smaller operators

    • doesnt add up

      sorry typo Lets say they sell 40% OR 15.6b of their purchase to smaller operators

  • Nick

    “the first part of the offer is for AT&T to guarantee that it won’t raise the prices of T-Mobile’s current voice and data services”

    That’s the whole problem with this takeover!!!  Customers and the government are well aware that prices WILL rise once AT&T gets TMO’s customers!!  The government said as much in the DOJ’s filing.  While the above offer sounds great, it just goes to show that absent that offer, prices will/would’ve rise/risen.  Which means that before that offer was made, AT&T planned to raise prices.

  • Anonymous

    The sad truth about all this is that DT hasn’t and most likely won’t invest significant $$$ into TMO USA.  I will agree that the ideal outcome of all this is to have a non-carrier buy TMO USA.  There wouldn’t be job losses and maybe TMO USA would finally get the funding they so desperately need.  From a business standpoint, TMO is a tough sell.  Sure, another company would get to buy TMO for a fraction of what ATT is offering, but that buyer would need to make a HUGE, long term investment to be a true competitor in the market.  Such an uphill battle for a non-carrier.  Someone else mentioned allowing the purchase of TMO to go thru, but then splitting that combined company into 2.  I think that would be worth looking into.

    • they just may keep it

      So lets say the deal dies. Tmo cranks hspa speeds up to 84mp, almost comparable to LTE. spends hardly anything to do that.  Adds more customers now with better phones and speeds, and the fear factor driving away new contracts.  Profits rise.  In addition they take some of their breakup fee and buy some more spectrum, or do some kind of sharing arrangement with someone who has it, and build out an lte network in 3 years.

      Doesn’t sound too bad of a scenero for DT just to keep their us division and build it up.  In the investor world, its making money for the shareholders, this simply may do that.

    • they just may keep it

      So lets say the deal dies. Tmo cranks hspa speeds up to 84mp, almost comparable to LTE. spends hardly anything to do that.  Adds more customers now with better phones and speeds, and the fear factor driving away new contracts.  Profits rise.  In addition they take some of their breakup fee and buy some more spectrum, or do some kind of sharing arrangement with someone who has it, and build out an lte network in 3 years.

      Doesn’t sound too bad of a scenero for DT just to keep their us division and build it up.  In the investor world, its making money for the shareholders, this simply may do that.

      • Anonymous

        Or AT&T and Verizon ratchet up the pressure with better deals, exclusive phones, advertisements about LTE which make customers flee T-mobile USA (since they can’t compete).

        Also seems like a reasonable scenario.  Plus it mirrors T-mobile USA’s current situation of bleeding customers left and right for years.

  • Anonymous

    The sad truth about all this is that DT hasn’t and most likely won’t invest significant $$$ into TMO USA.  I will agree that the ideal outcome of all this is to have a non-carrier buy TMO USA.  There wouldn’t be job losses and maybe TMO USA would finally get the funding they so desperately need.  From a business standpoint, TMO is a tough sell.  Sure, another company would get to buy TMO for a fraction of what ATT is offering, but that buyer would need to make a HUGE, long term investment to be a true competitor in the market.  Such an uphill battle for a non-carrier.  Someone else mentioned allowing the purchase of TMO to go thru, but then splitting that combined company into 2.  I think that would be worth looking into.

  • Anonymous

    Umm…(scratching my head)…if at&t could somehow  “guarantee that it won’t raise the prices of T-Mobile’s current voice and data services” and not put a cap on their data, i would totally be for the deal.

  • Anonymous

    Umm…(scratching my head)…if at&t could somehow  “guarantee that it won’t raise the prices of T-Mobile’s current voice and data services” and not put a cap on their data, i would totally be for the deal.

    • ogopogo

      keep scratching…..

    • Mad_philosopher

      that is only until your contract is up…

      • Anonymous

         They aren’t being clear about that. Are they saying there gonna add tmobiles plans for everyone (Ya right lol)  even new customers?  Or just simply grandfather what people already have who are on them.  Which is what they said they would already do before anyway!  So this is no big news if so as divestitures are of course needed. Still not good enough concessions!

      • Anonymous

         They aren’t being clear about that. Are they saying there gonna add tmobiles plans for everyone (Ya right lol)  even new customers?  Or just simply grandfather what people already have who are on them.  Which is what they said they would already do before anyway!  So this is no big news if so as divestitures are of course needed. Still not good enough concessions!

    • Mad_philosopher

      that is only until your contract is up…

  • Whylee77

    I agree, if this were to still go through, its still anti-competitive.  As a T-Mobile GSM user, I dont want the thought of only 1 player in the market. No way no how.   Once T-Mobile is consumed their plans go away and only current customers are protected. New people are not protected.  If they were divest bunches of spectrum or customers who right now I feel are toys in AT&T hands who has the money to poney up? and its still not worth 40B at that point.  I dont want to be screwed and then become a metroPCS customer because that is what AT%T negotiated!  T-Mobile is still profitable. While not a cash cow that DT took advantage of back in its hay day, it still makes money.  Once T-Mobile get an iPhone I think people will jump ship back to T-Mobile on their more reliable network.  Secondly, Does AT&T think that the DOJ is stupid?  No matter what there is going to be atleast a net loss of 20K jobs.  Did anyone read the latest job polls? 9.1 unemployment?  This is insane and this merger would just mean more layoffs.  STOP PISSING ON OUR LEGS AT&T!  Its not raining!  DT Can take that 3B upgrade more of their 2G/3G network to HSPA+ and keep going with their HSPA+ upgrades across the nation. Expand their coverage with their shared spectrum agreement, and the company will be solid again! THe reason why T-Mobile floundered was because DT ignored them. Now its time to fix what you started!

    • DIAMOND PRINCE

      I SO AGREE WITH YOU EXCEPT INSTED OF 2G/3G I HOPE THEY PUT IT IN 4G.

  • Whylee77

    I agree, if this were to still go through, its still anti-competitive.  As a T-Mobile GSM user, I dont want the thought of only 1 player in the market. No way no how.   Once T-Mobile is consumed their plans go away and only current customers are protected. New people are not protected.  If they were divest bunches of spectrum or customers who right now I feel are toys in AT&T hands who has the money to poney up? and its still not worth 40B at that point.  I dont want to be screwed and then become a metroPCS customer because that is what AT%T negotiated!  T-Mobile is still profitable. While not a cash cow that DT took advantage of back in its hay day, it still makes money.  Once T-Mobile get an iPhone I think people will jump ship back to T-Mobile on their more reliable network.  Secondly, Does AT&T think that the DOJ is stupid?  No matter what there is going to be atleast a net loss of 20K jobs.  Did anyone read the latest job polls? 9.1 unemployment?  This is insane and this merger would just mean more layoffs.  STOP PISSING ON OUR LEGS AT&T!  Its not raining!  DT Can take that 3B upgrade more of their 2G/3G network to HSPA+ and keep going with their HSPA+ upgrades across the nation. Expand their coverage with their shared spectrum agreement, and the company will be solid again! THe reason why T-Mobile floundered was because DT ignored them. Now its time to fix what you started!

  • Whylee77

    I agree, if this were to still go through, its still anti-competitive.  As a T-Mobile GSM user, I dont want the thought of only 1 player in the market. No way no how.   Once T-Mobile is consumed their plans go away and only current customers are protected. New people are not protected.  If they were divest bunches of spectrum or customers who right now I feel are toys in AT&T hands who has the money to poney up? and its still not worth 40B at that point.  I dont want to be screwed and then become a metroPCS customer because that is what AT%T negotiated!  T-Mobile is still profitable. While not a cash cow that DT took advantage of back in its hay day, it still makes money.  Once T-Mobile get an iPhone I think people will jump ship back to T-Mobile on their more reliable network.  Secondly, Does AT&T think that the DOJ is stupid?  No matter what there is going to be atleast a net loss of 20K jobs.  Did anyone read the latest job polls? 9.1 unemployment?  This is insane and this merger would just mean more layoffs.  STOP PISSING ON OUR LEGS AT&T!  Its not raining!  DT Can take that 3B upgrade more of their 2G/3G network to HSPA+ and keep going with their HSPA+ upgrades across the nation. Expand their coverage with their shared spectrum agreement, and the company will be solid again! THe reason why T-Mobile floundered was because DT ignored them. Now its time to fix what you started!

  • Anonymous

    I see the word “bribery” hidden everywhere in that first part. Secret talks? I wonder what that means

  • TMoFan

    Celebrate today but we have to keep up the pressure. at&t is willing to do almost anything to get this thing through. They have a lot at stake here and a rejection would deal a huge blue to Stephenson who has been praised for his ambition. One bright spot is that the FCC still has to sign off on this, deeming this in the public interest. No matter what at&t does they are still taking out a national competitor. And who would be left to pick up divestures? Verizon, the highest priced carrier out there? Sprint, which is cash strapped? Metro? Very unrealistic and the DoJ knows that.

    • TMoFan

      lol meant blow. Ever since my G2 got updated Swype has been acting a little weird.

  • Jaygqitalia

    How could att FORCE 25 percent of tmobile customers to go to sprint or other carriers? If the deal went through , id rather stay with att then be forced to go to sprint or some other low carrier.

    • 21stNow

      What happens in divestitures is that they force customer accounts to go to a different company, other than the one that initiated the buyout.  You will have a certain amount of time, if you are in contract with T-Mobile, to decide if you want to stay or leave.  If you leave, your number may be blacklisted for porting.  You also will be a new customer with whichever carrier you choose to go to, and will lose your T-Mobile price plan.

    • TK

      All they would need to do is sent a letter to the effected customers…..

      Dear loyal T-Mobile customer,

      We regret to inform you that you have been selected to be a divested customer. Your service will end in 90 days. If you will still need a cell phone and wish to keep
      your number, you should port to the carrier of your choice. If you were in a contract, it will be ended and no ETF will be due.

      While the other customers get this letter….

      Dear loyal T-Mobile customer,

      Welcome to AT&T. You will be able to continue your service at your current rate plan until….[boatload of conditions to limit the term of the granfathering]

    • Anonymous

        Look up the very recent Verizon / Alltel deal where customers were divested off to AT&T.

  • Bankheist2

    Why do people here keep saying “the government will do this” or “T-mobile will do this” ??? No one knows what is going to happen. Stop pretending like you know what will happen. Anyone who has ever posted “it’s a done deal” is stupid and should never post on the internet again. Yet here we are with people pretending they know for certain what will happen. The fact is we don’t know…in five years T-Mobile could still be here, or At&t might have bought T-Mobile or maybe someone else will have purchased them. But no one knows and everything that has happened this week proves that no one has any idea what will happen.

    • Whylee77

      Stop censoring the internet.

      • Gilliamsre

        Stop being a moron

    • the_truth

      I don’t think anyone has the right to tell anyone here not to post or what to post—That is David’s job. Two people did that to me yesterday and it’s unnecessary. No “user board cops” please.

      • Bankheist2

        Right because I wasnt being sarcastic at all. Way to not adress a single thing I said.

      • Barry Smith

        asking someone to stop providing false information, which you have done, is not being a board cop. You might want to reconsider your usefulness in participating in this discussion.

        • the_truth

          Like you’re so smart–mr. cut n’ paste internet search data.

        • Realcool2000

          At he actually does research…..mr. anti user board cop lol…sounds like a tron analogy….

        • Realcool2000

          at LEAST he actually does research ” “

        • Realcool2000

          at LEAST he actually does research ” “

        • Realcool2000

          At he actually does research…..mr. anti user board cop lol…sounds like a tron analogy….

        • the_truth

          Like you’re so smart–mr. cut n’ paste internet search data.

        • the_truth

          And—posting that the Obama Administration is anti big-business is fact. The DOJ is government and Mr. Obama is at the helm now. Is that false????

        • Anonymous

          Are you saying Obama is a dictator?
          You gotta love the far right and far left and the magical stories they weave. 

    • kresk

      Of course no one knows. People are just having fun conversing and giving their opinion. It’s ok to be wrong. Nobody’s perfect. Different ideas are what makes the world go round.. Were you ever messing around on your phone and it all of a sudden hits you that you’re really glad to have it? That just happened to me :) <3 my NS

    • kresk

      Of course no one knows. People are just having fun conversing and giving their opinion. It’s ok to be wrong. Nobody’s perfect. Different ideas are what makes the world go round.. Were you ever messing around on your phone and it all of a sudden hits you that you’re really glad to have it? That just happened to me :) <3 my NS

    • Dewey Cox

      This ain’t CNN buddy….people are giving their opinions.

  • Bankheist2

    Why do people here keep saying “the government will do this” or “T-mobile will do this” ??? No one knows what is going to happen. Stop pretending like you know what will happen. Anyone who has ever posted “it’s a done deal” is stupid and should never post on the internet again. Yet here we are with people pretending they know for certain what will happen. The fact is we don’t know…in five years T-Mobile could still be here, or At&t might have bought T-Mobile or maybe someone else will have purchased them. But no one knows and everything that has happened this week proves that no one has any idea what will happen.

  • BigMixxx

    25%, eh?  I wonder where?  What would be the requirements? where they are market leaders, largest markets, smaller markets.  In most cases where I have worked on divestiture, it occurs in cases where the merging companies dominate or it does not meet the near term requirements.  So this could be in a market like New York, where a combo of ATT/T mobile could make over 50% of the market, a divestiture could occur.  THAT would be bad, bottom line numbers will be affected.  in a place like Dookiehole, north dakota, where they would have 70 or 80% of the market, it would be even worse. so I wonder where the hell the divestiture is going to occur.  According the the coverage maps, where there is T mobile, there is ATT…Voice and Data should be considered.  25% could turn into 25% of the major markets and damn near 50% of the customer base.  If I were an ATT shareholder, I’d be screaming a lot of Hell No’s…pay the 6 billion and get money in the roaming agreements.  
    Other thought.  This just told DT/Tmobile USA to stop expanding the network.  This is AWFUL and immediately sent a signal to T mobile customers to jump ship. 

  • Anonymous

     They aren’t being clear about that. Are they saying there gonna add tmobiles plans for everyone (Ya right lol)  even new customers?  Or just simply grandfather what people already have who are on them.  Which is what they said they would already do before anyway!  So this is no big news if so as divestitures are of course needed. Still not good enough concessions!

    • Anonymous

      could be either one… Although, AT&T wants get away with the bare minimum that will cost them the least amount of money.

  • Anonymous

     They aren’t being clear about that. Are they saying there gonna add tmobiles plans for everyone (Ya right lol)  even new customers?  Or just simply grandfather what people already have who are on them.  Which is what they said they would already do before anyway!  So this is no big news if so as divestitures are of course needed. Still not good enough concessions!

  • DIAMOND PRINCE

    I LOVE T-MOBILE I WANT IT SO STAY AROUND LIKE IT IS EXCEPT WITH OUT DT! WHO DOESNT CARE ABOUT T-MOBILE AND US THE CUSTOMERS. BUT IM SO CONFUSED ABOUT AT&T BUYING T-MOBILE. ON ONE HAND I LIKE IT CUZ WE WILL GET BETTER COVERAGE EVERYWHERE AND 4G LTE I THINK THATS GREAT. BUT THE BAD THING ABOUT AT&T BUYING T-MOBILE IS THERE WILL BE ONLY 1 GSM PROVIDER AND THATS HORRIBLE PLUSE AT&T WILL OWN SO MUCH IT WILL BE A MONOPOLY AFFECT AND IN THE END THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHAT EVER THEY WANT! AND IF SOME ONES ELSE BUYS T-MOBILE IM SURE A LOT OFF PEOPLE WILL LEAVE UNLESS ITS GOOGLE THAT BUYS T-MOBILE. IM SURE EVERY1 WILL STAY AND MORE PPL WILL JOIN. SO ITS TOTALLY CONFUSING RIGHT!!

    • Ron Mexico

      Why are you yelling?

    • Ron Mexico

      Why are you yelling?

    • Ron Mexico

      Why are you yelling?

  • Guest

    Too all my minions! Roll up your contracts to the max. Hold on to the data. Its over. This is all a rouse by the left wing to come to the rescue. Watch the other hand.  

    More importantly…..GET A LIFE

    • CharlieSheen

      Tiger Blood!

      Winner!!

  • TMOBILE ONLY

    i dont understand how At&t is buying Tmobile? i hate att ! customer service is horrible, prices suck, and everyone at att are greedy.

    im AGAINST the merge !!

  • Anonymous

    It is more like how much AT&T is going to pad the pockets of key lawmakers and how many free entitlement phones will be given out.

    • Anonymous

      WOW this red herring is getting old real quick. 
      The people screaming it are like a broken record reading from some far left script. 
      Time to move on. 
      If there was evidence of bribes dont you think that the DOJ would love to UNCOVER that as yet another reason to prevent this deal?
      Conspiracy theorists love to weave these magical tales yet when you ask them for proof they dont have any. 
      YAAAAAAWN. 

      • Anonymous

        Ok Mike and ATL … Do a google search on the Comcast NBC deal.  The same DOJ was about to sue to block the deal. The DOJ felt that the deal would add to Comcast’s current market monopolies. Then Comcast agreed to major concessions such as free internet to support Obama’s free Internet initiative.  Of course Comcast’s current customers will be paying for that with rate increases. Comcast gave contributions and “honorary fees” to the 97 lawmakers who were for the takeover. You can find the names of the lawmakers online.  David had an article on this site that stated that AT&T gave money to the lawmakers who happened to support the takeover of T-Mo..The free phones will not go to the lawmakers Mikey… They will go to the people who qualify for the Obama free phone plan.

         Just use google and you can find out this information and even names of the recipients. If you have a problem using google, let me know and I will be more than happy to post the links.  

        No conspiracy here atl… Just facts.  I hope that the deal does not go through because I have been with T-mo for a long time, but I also know that money can change everything. 

      • Anonymous

        Ok Mike and ATL … Do a google search on the Comcast NBC deal.  The same DOJ was about to sue to block the deal. The DOJ felt that the deal would add to Comcast’s current market monopolies. Then Comcast agreed to major concessions such as free internet to support Obama’s free Internet initiative.  Of course Comcast’s current customers will be paying for that with rate increases. Comcast gave contributions and “honorary fees” to the 97 lawmakers who were for the takeover. You can find the names of the lawmakers online.  David had an article on this site that stated that AT&T gave money to the lawmakers who happened to support the takeover of T-Mo..The free phones will not go to the lawmakers Mikey… They will go to the people who qualify for the Obama free phone plan.

         Just use google and you can find out this information and even names of the recipients. If you have a problem using google, let me know and I will be more than happy to post the links.  

        No conspiracy here atl… Just facts.  I hope that the deal does not go through because I have been with T-mo for a long time, but I also know that money can change everything. 

        • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/35HLVJSI34LMH5M274SCGWDZBY mike

          sounds suspiciously politcal to me…

      • Dutch

        Ever heard of a lobbyists.

      • Dutch

        Maybe that’s your problem stop yawning and wake up.

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      It’s OK if you want to think these kinds of things in the privacy of your cement bunker, but stop with the drama queen posts. Here, I’ll spell it out for you. 

      If AT&T was or intends to “pad the pockets of key lawmakers” including giving them some free phones (at least that what I think you are trying to say) don’t you think those “key lawmakers” would have stopped the DOJ from even filing the lawsuit.

      That’s quite the brain you have knowing “key lawmakers” take bribes from AT&T, then meet with DOJ officials commanding them to back off on prosecuting the case.

      Sidenote: I’m really curious, who are these “key lawmakers” you are referring to?  Since you have the inside information on all this I suggest you write an expose and submit it to the New York Times for publication.  

      • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/35HLVJSI34LMH5M274SCGWDZBY mike

        DOJ is a different branch of Government than key lawmakers. Michael is correct. 

  • OKDave

    If nothing else, I love to see ATT twist in the wind. It’s marvelous.

  • Oce

    For those that don’t know, when Tmobile acquired Suncom I was forced to “upgrade” to a Tmobile plan when I wanted to upgrade to an Android device.  I’m a little undecided as to whether I want this merger to pass or no.  Although, I do despise the idea of ATT or any single carrier controlling the entire gsm network in NA.

    • Francisco Andres7

      That’s because youre retarded… I work for TMO customer care and I still see suncom plans on a weekly basis. Should have never agreed to it. Your loss.

      • Cookitup222

        Really francisco? As a customer care employee myself, please let it be known that there are many tmobile employees that do care for our customers. There is no need to call this person retarded. In terms of former Suncom customers, if they want a discounted handset then yes you would need to switch to a T-Mo plan, while if you dont mind paying full price for the phone, you can continue to enjoy your Suncom plan.

      • Cookitup222

        Really francisco? As a customer care employee myself, please let it be known that there are many tmobile employees that do care for our customers. There is no need to call this person retarded. In terms of former Suncom customers, if they want a discounted handset then yes you would need to switch to a T-Mo plan, while if you dont mind paying full price for the phone, you can continue to enjoy your Suncom plan.

      • Oce

        Wow you work for Tmo and refer to your customers as retards!  Whatever.  Either way when the G1 was first introduced I actually got the phone only to be told by multiple Tmo reps that they couldn’t add android data to a Suncom plan; so I returned it.  I have a pretty good grandfathered plan now with many loyalty perks so its all good.  Only thing I lack now is 3g/4g coverage.  Unlimited data is pretty useless with edge/gprs coverage only.  Retard!  C’mon man your a customer care rep for goodness sake! 

      • joshua32

        Francisco really you are a retarded, cause of the Android data features cannot be added with the SunCom grandfather rate plans!!!! You’re a moron!! att. A coworker.

      • joshua32

        Francisco really you are a retarded, cause of the Android data features cannot be added with the SunCom grandfather rate plans!!!! You’re a moron!! att. A coworker.

        • Huhhh

          i worked for att and now tmo, i was att wireless and been through, cingular to att mobility on the front line. You all need to calm down, its not that serious. Its the owners whom have plotted this for us, not the laborers. No one is retarded, we just need to stop, take a breather and think. DT is giving up on the US, so what? The US is not giving up on the US. Stop fighting each other and come to some type of plan to get the US out of the mess that another country got us into. Do you understand?

        • Jon

          You make a valid point. But the things that bothers most people about this is the fact that AT&T are known for expensive plans, and shoddy customer service. That is why so many people are bitching not to mention tons of jobs that would be lost in a fragile economy. I just honestly don’t see how AT&T will be the hero here.

  • Anonymous

    This is why i kept saying the victory celebrations were very premature.  We’ve got another year of fighting by AT&T while T-mobile USA just sits around and waits.

    Large divestments could easily change the whole negotiation. I think it’s pretty obvious now that AT&T was trying to push this deal through without even one single concession.