AT&T Files Formal Response To Justice Department Lawsuit

Someone needs to tell me what is in the water over at AT&T headquarters that they believe a T-Mobile isn’t competitive. While T-Mobile is certainly the smallest of the big 4 carriers, calling MetroPCS and Cricket a larger threat than a company multiple times the size of both Metro and Cricket combined is in my eyes, irrational.

AT&T filed a formal response to the Department of Justice lawsuit on Friday arguing that competition in the market won’t be affected by their purchase of T-Mobile.

“Although the transaction will remove T-Mobile as an independent competitor, no significant consumer harm will result,” AT&T said in its filing. “The Department does not and cannot explain how, in the face of all of these aggressive rivals, the combined AT&T/T-Mobile will have any ability or incentive to restrict output, raise prices, or slow innovation. Nor can it explain how T-Mobile, the only major carrier to have actually lost subscribers in a robustly growing market, provides a unique competitive constraint on AT&T.”

AT&T goes on to call MetroPCS, Cricket Wireless, Cellular South and U.S. Cellular “innovative upstarts” that present significantly more competitive threats to AT&T’s standing in the wireless market. AT&T further believes that the Justice Department has overlooked how a combined AT&T/T-Mobile will create a more efficient company as a combined carrier. AT&T stresses in their filing that the Justice Department will create a worse situation in the wireless market by not allowing this merger to go forward.

“Without this merger, AT&T will continue to experience capacity constraints, millions of customers will be deprived of faster and higher quality service, and innovation and infrastructure will be stunted. If this transaction does not close due to Plaintiff’s lawsuit, wireless consumers will, as the FCC Chairman predicts, increasingly face higher prices and lower quality.”

Am I the only one who finds the AT&T statements here are a little far fetched? I understand that in order to gain approval they aren’t going to call T-Mobile a serious threat but do they honestly believe the DOJ won’t consider T-Mobile a competitor?

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  • Prokopyo

    First, Bull*hit……. leave T-mobile alone At&t stinks………………..

  • Prokopyo

    First, Bull*hit……. leave T-mobile alone At&t stinks………………..

    • Tmo Ninja

      People need to understand that Tmo US has been on the market for sale since Robert Dobson, then CEO of TMo US, passed on the iPhone.. that forced Apple to go back to the well and redesign the iPhone, thus turning it into the phenominom that it is today… Dobson, to his credit, did pick up Android though… it was lack of proper advwertising at the time and lack of proper education on how to use Android that cost Tmo in the long run.. DT is owned majority by the German government, they told DT they wcould no longer fund overseas operations and that is why Tmo has not had money for advertising,etc… I think Tmo’s onyl chance for survival is being bought by a company with a lot of money to inverst or for it to go public and become an IPO… Merging with ATT is NOT the answer.

  • Lcc1_

    all I hear from AT&T is blah blah blah….AT&T is smoking some serious crack if they dont believe that by buying TMo that there’s going the wireless market will be less cmpetitive. Its laughable if AT&T thinks some of the smaller carriers would be more competititon…LOL

    • Lcc1_

      I hit send to fast…sorry for the grammatical errors

      • Anonymous

        it’s readable comparing to others who is much worse lol!

        • Anonymous

          lol

    • Lcc1_

      I hit send to fast…sorry for the grammatical errors

    • DREW J

      They dont believe any of that, there bullshitting and playing dumb for the sake of the merger going through. Anyone can see this which is why if this works the doj is dumber than a 12 year old with common sense

      • Anonymous

        Gotta sell that snake oil.

      • Anonymous

        Gotta sell that snake oil.

  • Lcc1_

    all I hear from AT&T is blah blah blah….AT&T is smoking some serious crack if they dont believe that by buying TMo that there’s going the wireless market will be less cmpetitive. Its laughable if AT&T thinks some of the smaller carriers would be more competititon…LOL

  • Anonymous

    Atts statements aren’t naive Dave. They’re trying to downplay tmobile as a part of their argument to gain approval. It wouldn’t be wise of them to call tmo a viable competitor because that just makes it look like they want tmo out of the way. I’m not saying I agree with their statements, but its a wise strategy on atts part. Although, its seems like tmo is the only notable carrier (national or regional) that’s seen consistent subscriber losses over the past yr……looking soley at growth, one could see why att would say regionals are competitive and tmo is not

  • Of course AT&T could use more capacity. Their network is completely over-sold which is why they have crappier service. Buying TMo’s customer service would actually give AT&T a much needed dept that they currently don’t have. But it isn’t good for TMo’s customers or the market in general.
     

    • Anonymous

      True

    • Anonymous

      True

  • Anonymous

    Again, AT&T is talking from their a*s*s… What’s up with them? If they’re going make a persuasive letter, at least list the facts and make it persuasive. sheesh.

    • Ash

      That’s because that don’t have any facts or truth or be persuasive.

  • BP

    As I said in the “Deutsche Telecom, AT&T AT Odds Over T-Mobile Deal?” article:

    Are AT&T and DT really trying to get the DOJ’s sympathy by making T-Mobile look pathetic?  I’m almost ashamed to say I have T-Mobile.  Somebody call Jose Baez (Casey Anthony’s lawyer) so ATT and DT can get this deal done.

    The deal with DT and AT&T will happen.  AT&T has to show the DOJ and US that T-Mobile is not able to perform as a carrier on its own.  Its pathetic they have to use this route but now its the only option.  AT&T has the most to gain from this deal.

  • Anonymous

    AT&T in the Boston area sure as hell thinks T-Mobile is competitive, AT&T has the worst data speeds in our area. I could not even get 500 killibits on the download. That is just pathetic for the 2nd soon to be the largest carrier in the country. We are talking about the Boston area not somewhere on the side of a mountain. T-Mobile on the other hand is pushing over 10 MB on the download. Not too shabby for the 4th largest carrier who isn’t a competitor to AT&T. When talking with anyone froom tech support at AT&T they are always comparing their service with T-Mobile, that is very strange if T-Mobile wasn’t a competitor why even bring their name up??????? 

  • Anonymous

    Companies lose customers all the time. Usually caused by changes in the market and any conclusions we draw based on those changes is in fact opinion, not fact. If every company knew exactly how the market would turn at any moment, then every company would be trying to do exactly the same thing. Sprint lost customers for a very long time consistently after the Nextel merger, but nobody was arguing they should go out of business or were no longer relevant. The fact T-mobile still exists, is in the top four and has so many subscribers, says there is still a market desire for competition and divers-ability. In fact, it argues for that since T-mobile has managed to stick around this long.

    I have argued this for a very long time, and is of course my opinion, but I think it’s the phones that ultimately make people switch over to other companies. I’ve sold phones and have seen this proven true time and time again. Customers don’t go “OMG, I need to have Sprint/Verizon/etc”, they say “I want and have to have that phone! Sign me up”

    • Anonymous

      I agree with some of your statement, but from my personal experience I don’t think the majority of ppl switch bc of a device (the iphone may be the exception with its limited availability)…..I’ve found that ppl switch providers bc their current provider pissed them off somehow. I’ve had numerous ppl come to my store looking to save money….not necessarily looking for a specific device……ppl are either switching bc their bill is too high with their current provider or their current provider won’t work with them on an upgrade……on the other hand I’ve seen many ppl leave tmo due to coverage

      • Anonymous

        That’s true more with Tmobile than the other big three probably. I say that probably, because most of the services I’ve done are with the big three through 3rd party. And often when people have switched from Sprint or AT&T, yes it’s because of bad service. Haven’t really heard it from Verizon. But more often than not, if there’s a device out there that catches people’s attention, it will usually trump the service. Unless as you’ve said, they really hate the service they’ve gotten. In which case, they will look at the other two, but will more often choose based on the devices available.

        • Anonymous

          Aside from the iphone, no national carrier offers a device that other carriers don’t…..verizon may have its droid series but a comparable phone can be used on any of the other 3 nationals……an example would be: why jump ship from tmo as a sensation user, just to grab the droid bionic on verizon (coverage not being a factor)? That move would make no sense.

        • Anonymous

          That’s where we start getting into stuff with consumer sciences that neither of us can point out as fact and it just becomes your opinion over mine. All I know is from my experiences. Customers have their own opinion about who has the ‘cooler’ or ‘better’ phones and they weigh this with the service options available to them. My experiences tell me that the phone selection has a pretty big pull and it’s also my opinion that Tmobile doesn’t have as strong of a selection with phones and that they tend to be more niche (or cheap looking even) when you compare to the other carriers. _And again, that’s my opinion_

          You keep grabbing towards the iPhone example, which I’m not at all thinking the iPhone or exclusives as much more than a mild example of what I’m getting at here. This has been my experience longterm with all phones that have been available. Android phones are more consistent across the board with carriers, but there are definitely differences with the software and tweaks you’re forgetting that they like to put on, and most people don’t know or will never know how to root. These can be big deciding factors in which carrier to go to. Even T-mobile is an example of this with having vanilla devices and also it’s own software trends.

          With the other types of phones out there, those differences per carrier are more pronounced. Sprint, Verizon and AT&T all tend to add their own adjustments/software/aesthetic to a device. They also tend to favor certain brands, and have their own lines, yes. There are definitely plenty of characteristics that are typical for each carrier in their lineups, and yes while it’s true a phone is a phone no matter what brand or carrier is on it. In my experience, customers are very keen to their own needs and can and WILL often spot differences between carrier options.

          My whole point is… when customers chooses a phone, it’s a very special and personal thing, because it’s something they carry on them 24/7 and expect to work the way they want, I’ve seen customers go down the line of phones and suddenly decide, “I can’t switch to this carrier because I don’t like any of their phones, but I like that this carrier has this feature, and this is within my budget, so I will try them. ” They don’t ALWAYS go, oh lemme use this service because it’s ultra cheap, even though it has phones I hate??? Even when customers are not that picky, they may see a device they fall in love (or can live with if they’re not wild about phones) with they are shopping. Even during a contract signing for a port over to a new carrier, I’ve got lots of customers playing with their phone well before the contracts are even signed. They’re not worrying about every fee or single $ amount, as long as I’m not trying to pull a fast one over or something (heh). The device market these days has become an entertainment one to some degree, because people want a device that is ‘fun’ for them to use.

        • Anonymous

          That’s where we start getting into stuff with consumer sciences that neither of us can point out as fact and it just becomes your opinion over mine. All I know is from my experiences. Customers have their own opinion about who has the ‘cooler’ or ‘better’ phones and they weigh this with the service options available to them. My experiences tell me that the phone selection has a pretty big pull and it’s also my opinion that Tmobile doesn’t have as strong of a selection with phones and that they tend to be more niche (or cheap looking even) when you compare to the other carriers. _And again, that’s my opinion_

          You keep grabbing towards the iPhone example, which I’m not at all thinking the iPhone or exclusives as much more than a mild example of what I’m getting at here. This has been my experience longterm with all phones that have been available. Android phones are more consistent across the board with carriers, but there are definitely differences with the software and tweaks you’re forgetting that they like to put on, and most people don’t know or will never know how to root. These can be big deciding factors in which carrier to go to. Even T-mobile is an example of this with having vanilla devices and also it’s own software trends.

          With the other types of phones out there, those differences per carrier are more pronounced. Sprint, Verizon and AT&T all tend to add their own adjustments/software/aesthetic to a device. They also tend to favor certain brands, and have their own lines, yes. There are definitely plenty of characteristics that are typical for each carrier in their lineups, and yes while it’s true a phone is a phone no matter what brand or carrier is on it. In my experience, customers are very keen to their own needs and can and WILL often spot differences between carrier options.

          My whole point is… when customers chooses a phone, it’s a very special and personal thing, because it’s something they carry on them 24/7 and expect to work the way they want, I’ve seen customers go down the line of phones and suddenly decide, “I can’t switch to this carrier because I don’t like any of their phones, but I like that this carrier has this feature, and this is within my budget, so I will try them. ” They don’t ALWAYS go, oh lemme use this service because it’s ultra cheap, even though it has phones I hate??? Even when customers are not that picky, they may see a device they fall in love (or can live with if they’re not wild about phones) with they are shopping. Even during a contract signing for a port over to a new carrier, I’ve got lots of customers playing with their phone well before the contracts are even signed. They’re not worrying about every fee or single $ amount, as long as I’m not trying to pull a fast one over or something (heh). The device market these days has become an entertainment one to some degree, because people want a device that is ‘fun’ for them to use.

        • Anonymous

          That’s where we start getting into stuff with consumer sciences that neither of us can point out as fact and it just becomes your opinion over mine. All I know is from my experiences. Customers have their own opinion about who has the ‘cooler’ or ‘better’ phones and they weigh this with the service options available to them. My experiences tell me that the phone selection has a pretty big pull and it’s also my opinion that Tmobile doesn’t have as strong of a selection with phones and that they tend to be more niche (or cheap looking even) when you compare to the other carriers. _And again, that’s my opinion_

          You keep grabbing towards the iPhone example, which I’m not at all thinking the iPhone or exclusives as much more than a mild example of what I’m getting at here. This has been my experience longterm with all phones that have been available. Android phones are more consistent across the board with carriers, but there are definitely differences with the software and tweaks you’re forgetting that they like to put on, and most people don’t know or will never know how to root. These can be big deciding factors in which carrier to go to. Even T-mobile is an example of this with having vanilla devices and also it’s own software trends.

          With the other types of phones out there, those differences per carrier are more pronounced. Sprint, Verizon and AT&T all tend to add their own adjustments/software/aesthetic to a device. They also tend to favor certain brands, and have their own lines, yes. There are definitely plenty of characteristics that are typical for each carrier in their lineups, and yes while it’s true a phone is a phone no matter what brand or carrier is on it. In my experience, customers are very keen to their own needs and can and WILL often spot differences between carrier options.

          My whole point is… when customers chooses a phone, it’s a very special and personal thing, because it’s something they carry on them 24/7 and expect to work the way they want, I’ve seen customers go down the line of phones and suddenly decide, “I can’t switch to this carrier because I don’t like any of their phones, but I like that this carrier has this feature, and this is within my budget, so I will try them. ” They don’t ALWAYS go, oh lemme use this service because it’s ultra cheap, even though it has phones I hate??? Even when customers are not that picky, they may see a device they fall in love (or can live with if they’re not wild about phones) with they are shopping. Even during a contract signing for a port over to a new carrier, I’ve got lots of customers playing with their phone well before the contracts are even signed. They’re not worrying about every fee or single $ amount, as long as I’m not trying to pull a fast one over or something (heh). The device market these days has become an entertainment one to some degree, because people want a device that is ‘fun’ for them to use.

      • Anonymous

        That’s true more with Tmobile than the other big three probably. I say that probably, because most of the services I’ve done are with the big three through 3rd party. And often when people have switched from Sprint or AT&T, yes it’s because of bad service. Haven’t really heard it from Verizon. But more often than not, if there’s a device out there that catches people’s attention, it will usually trump the service. Unless as you’ve said, they really hate the service they’ve gotten. In which case, they will look at the other two, but will more often choose based on the devices available.

    • Anonymous

      I agree with some of your statement, but from my personal experience I don’t think the majority of ppl switch bc of a device (the iphone may be the exception with its limited availability)…..I’ve found that ppl switch providers bc their current provider pissed them off somehow. I’ve had numerous ppl come to my store looking to save money….not necessarily looking for a specific device……ppl are either switching bc their bill is too high with their current provider or their current provider won’t work with them on an upgrade……on the other hand I’ve seen many ppl leave tmo due to coverage

  • Enrique Almaguer

    HOLY HELL, i want whatever ATT corporate employees are taking, i need a release from reality……….

  • Anonymous

    Honestly, I’m not seeing any “Win” in this for us as T-mobile customers at all. If AT&T buys us we’re screwed. If they don’t buy us, they have to pay Telekom a hefty fee but Telekom has already stated that they have bigger and better things to throw their money into than T-mobile which is kinda hard to see but it is what it is so in other words we’re still screwed. Either way the future of T-mobile continuing on as it is, IS DONE. The only thing we as the customers are waiting for is exactly how bad this is gonna go for us. I hate having to move another carrier but right now Sprint and Verizon are looking better and better as top picks.

    • Anonymous

      Pick your poison

    • Anonymous

      Pick your poison

    • Anonymous

      As in my previous post, although I don’t care for the iPhone, Sprint is already getting it and if Tmo gets the iPhone as well, there will be a big reversal of losing customers. Let’s see how well Sprint does with it.

  • Vdawg

    This goes to show that T-mobile is intentionally allowing itself to loose customers so that it can look more like a struggling company. Also I believe that’s why T-mobile is laying off employees so as to look like a company on the brink of insolvency . The worst T-mobile looks the easier it is for Att to take it over. How can a company that brought us the first android phone be in such a terrible shape? T-mobile did not start loosing customers big time until this take over bid was announced, IMO.

    • Anonymous

      Not true. Tmo saw substantial customer losses in the first quarter (the buyout was announced with only 10 days left in q1)….had the buyout been announced in january, you’d prob be right…..as far as tmo “sand bagging” in an effort to seem less competitive? I honestly don’t know. They seem to be focusing on areas of the business that don’t need attention while ignoring the segments that do…..for example focusing on rate plan pricing instead of network build out…..granted, a network build out is waaaaaay more expensive than changing your rate plan line up…..as a stipulation of this deal, tmo has to maintain a certain value in order for att to fork over 39b, so dt can’t afford to let tmo fall by the wayside too much in an effort to look pathetic for the doj and fcc

    • Metalimatt

      Tmobile never brought the iPhone to it’s customers that wanted a high end device. Instead they brought a zillion budget android phones to offer at cheap prices. That’s how they failed period.

    • Metalimatt

      Tmobile never brought the iPhone to it’s customers that wanted a high end device. Instead they brought a zillion budget android phones to offer at cheap prices. That’s how they failed period.

    • Metalimatt

      Tmobile never brought the iPhone to it’s customers that wanted a high end device. Instead they brought a zillion budget android phones to offer at cheap prices. That’s how they failed period.

      • Ash

        What are you smoking? same thing as those ATT executives I bet.
        Cheap android phones? LOL.

        You get BF by Apple and you as the customer is happy about that? nice!

    • Metalimatt

      Tmobile never brought the iPhone to it’s customers that wanted a high end device. Instead they brought a zillion budget android phones to offer at cheap prices. That’s how they failed period.

  • Flashy4bb

    Att needs to back off period.

    • Anonymous

      They won’t…they have 6 billion riding on this.

    • Anonymous

      They won’t…they have 6 billion riding on this.

    • Anonymous

      They won’t…they have 6 billion riding on this.

    • Anonymous

      They won’t…they have 6 billion riding on this.

  • Anonymous

    i don’t see the arguments as far fetched if you put them in context.  T-mobile USA is competitively losing subscribers.  That’s a failed business model and not competition.

    AT&T is not the only one making these arguments.  T-mobile USA’s parent company is making some of the same arguments by dumping them.

    Those small companies are thriving far better than T-mobile USA. Even if you don’t buy into AT&T’s argument that they are serious competitors to AT&T, they probably are serious competitors to T-mobile USA because of price conscious subscribers.

  • Anonymous

    i don’t see the arguments as far fetched if you put them in context.  T-mobile USA is competitively losing subscribers.  That’s a failed business model and not competition.

    AT&T is not the only one making these arguments.  T-mobile USA’s parent company is making some of the same arguments by dumping them.

    Those small companies are thriving far better than T-mobile USA. Even if you don’t buy into AT&T’s argument that they are serious competitors to AT&T, they probably are serious competitors to T-mobile USA because of price conscious subscribers.

    • Anonymous

      Sparced, what do you think would happen if the iPhone came to Tmobile? Faster speeds and lower monthly fees. Do you think Tmobile would be competitive then?

      • Fred

        It would at least help stem the loss of subscribers. Maybe even bring a bunch in.

        It’ll be interesting to see what happens, and what T-Mo does with rate plans. Whatever happens, we need to start bringing in more cash.

      • Fred

        It would at least help stem the loss of subscribers. Maybe even bring a bunch in.

        It’ll be interesting to see what happens, and what T-Mo does with rate plans. Whatever happens, we need to start bringing in more cash.

      • Anonymous

        T-mobile USA would have to pay far more for the iphone than AT&T because they have far less negotiating power. Even in 2007, AT&T had close to double the subscribers that T-mobile USA has now.

        So, I expect profits to decline at T-mobile USA when they have to mortgage everything to take on the iphone.

        To pay for those declining profits, you end up raising monthly fees and possibly slowing upgrades because you can’t afford them as easily.

        Gaining subscribers at the expense of profits isn’t going to make the situation at T-mobile USA any better.

      • Getmore Life

        Correct.  Do not believe the AT&T and DT liars!
         

      • Getmore Life

        Correct.  Do not believe the AT&T and DT liars!
         

    • Anonymous

      Sparced, what do you think would happen if the iPhone came to Tmobile? Faster speeds and lower monthly fees. Do you think Tmobile would be competitive then?

    • Anonymous

      Sparced, what do you think would happen if the iPhone came to Tmobile? Faster speeds and lower monthly fees. Do you think Tmobile would be competitive then?

  • Anonymous

    i don’t see the arguments as far fetched if you put them in context.  T-mobile USA is competitively losing subscribers.  That’s a failed business model and not competition.

    AT&T is not the only one making these arguments.  T-mobile USA’s parent company is making some of the same arguments by dumping them.

    Those small companies are thriving far better than T-mobile USA. Even if you don’t buy into AT&T’s argument that they are serious competitors to AT&T, they probably are serious competitors to T-mobile USA because of price conscious subscribers.

  • Anonymous

    i don’t see the arguments as far fetched if you put them in context.  T-mobile USA is competitively losing subscribers.  That’s a failed business model and not competition.

    AT&T is not the only one making these arguments.  T-mobile USA’s parent company is making some of the same arguments by dumping them.

    Those small companies are thriving far better than T-mobile USA. Even if you don’t buy into AT&T’s argument that they are serious competitors to AT&T, they probably are serious competitors to T-mobile USA because of price conscious subscribers.

  • Wes Hardin

    are you all sheep??  Yes Tmobile is the only major carrier that’s lost customers over the past year but can we look at WHY???  Oh….it’s because the potential “merger” has been looming over the heads of its customers.  You cant expect their customer base to actually grow during a pending acquisition do you??  Let’s put this in an analogy so some of you “intellectually challenged” readers can understand. If you were in the market for a new car, and you had a choice of manufacturers to choose from but one of those manufacturers were at risk of selling out and had the possibility of not being around shortly after you bought your car.  Meaning, that the car you bought would essentially be obsolete and you couldn’t get it worked on, your payments were going to go up after you bought it, and there is a good chance that about 2 years after you bought it it would work anymore.  My question is would you still buy that car??? H*LL NO you wouldn’t, stop taking “well they were the only company to experience loss of customers” of of context!!!!!  

  • Wes Hardin

    are you all sheep??  Yes Tmobile is the only major carrier that’s lost customers over the past year but can we look at WHY???  Oh….it’s because the potential “merger” has been looming over the heads of its customers.  You cant expect their customer base to actually grow during a pending acquisition do you??  Let’s put this in an analogy so some of you “intellectually challenged” readers can understand. If you were in the market for a new car, and you had a choice of manufacturers to choose from but one of those manufacturers were at risk of selling out and had the possibility of not being around shortly after you bought your car.  Meaning, that the car you bought would essentially be obsolete and you couldn’t get it worked on, your payments were going to go up after you bought it, and there is a good chance that about 2 years after you bought it it would work anymore.  My question is would you still buy that car??? H*LL NO you wouldn’t, stop taking “well they were the only company to experience loss of customers” of of context!!!!!  

  • Wes Hardin

    are you all sheep??  Yes Tmobile is the only major carrier that’s lost customers over the past year but can we look at WHY???  Oh….it’s because the potential “merger” has been looming over the heads of its customers.  You cant expect their customer base to actually grow during a pending acquisition do you??  Let’s put this in an analogy so some of you “intellectually challenged” readers can understand. If you were in the market for a new car, and you had a choice of manufacturers to choose from but one of those manufacturers were at risk of selling out and had the possibility of not being around shortly after you bought your car.  Meaning, that the car you bought would essentially be obsolete and you couldn’t get it worked on, your payments were going to go up after you bought it, and there is a good chance that about 2 years after you bought it it would work anymore.  My question is would you still buy that car??? H*LL NO you wouldn’t, stop taking “well they were the only company to experience loss of customers” of of context!!!!!  

    • Fred

      The takeover has certainly hurt our numbers, but it’s not the only cause. We’ve been losing subscribers for a year and a half.

      http://articles.boston.com/2011-09-01/business/30102318_1_t-mobile-customers-t-mobile-usa-philipp-humm

    • Anonymous

      Sure the buyout isn’t by any means helping tmobile grow its base, but all the blame doesn’t fall on the looming buyout. Tmos q1 numbers speak to this point……a car is a much larger investment than a cell phone….its unfair to compare the two. If I lived in an area where tmo had great service and I was looking to save money, id switch. Why wouldn’t I? Odds are if I had vzw not and switched to tmo, by the time att made changes to tmos old towers, id be out of contract/eligible for upgrade……and att has gone on record saying I can keep my tmo rate thru the buyout. If they tried to screw me out of my tmo rate plan with an upgrade, id just leave

    • Anonymous

      Sure the buyout isn’t by any means helping tmobile grow its base, but all the blame doesn’t fall on the looming buyout. Tmos q1 numbers speak to this point……a car is a much larger investment than a cell phone….its unfair to compare the two. If I lived in an area where tmo had great service and I was looking to save money, id switch. Why wouldn’t I? Odds are if I had vzw not and switched to tmo, by the time att made changes to tmos old towers, id be out of contract/eligible for upgrade……and att has gone on record saying I can keep my tmo rate thru the buyout. If they tried to screw me out of my tmo rate plan with an upgrade, id just leave

      • Getmore Life

        It is not just about lower T-Mobile USA rates.  Many Many people HATE AT&T with a passion.  It is 100% true that T-Mobile USA is being hurt by this deal.  That is why the DOJ acted so quickly and agressively to block it.  Now when the FCC piles on and blocks the transfer of spectrum licenses AT&T can give up, pay up, and get a new CEO.  Ha ha.  

      • actually its a fair comparison.

    • Anonymous

      Sure the buyout isn’t by any means helping tmobile grow its base, but all the blame doesn’t fall on the looming buyout. Tmos q1 numbers speak to this point……a car is a much larger investment than a cell phone….its unfair to compare the two. If I lived in an area where tmo had great service and I was looking to save money, id switch. Why wouldn’t I? Odds are if I had vzw not and switched to tmo, by the time att made changes to tmos old towers, id be out of contract/eligible for upgrade……and att has gone on record saying I can keep my tmo rate thru the buyout. If they tried to screw me out of my tmo rate plan with an upgrade, id just leave

    • Howie8690

      They have bleed customers for three years!!! Not just since the merger. The only way they stayed in business is because their parent compnay had a lot of loot, I know this breaks your meginta heart but TMO is not a major player and is just occupying a spot for someone else as they will not survive. That is the whole point, they are doomed to be purchased or die.

      • Tmoguy1

        Howie8690, Do you work for AT&T.
        In Brooklyn, we are gaining customers every mointh, In fact NYC is Booming in sales and new subscribers  for T-Mobile. No T-mobile is not as small as metro or cricket.

        And Bleed customers… How, with some of the lkowest prices out there for a major carrier. And some of the Hottest Phones.. Don’t forget, T-mobile Brought Android to market with the First android phone in the USA. G1.

        T-mo could have stayed in the game, and competed well, Unfrotunately this Buy Out has crippled the company.

        And since this buyout began, and AT&T advertised that they already own T-mobile (intentionally confusing T-mobile existing and potential customers) the comapny has been on a downward fall.
        In another year the American side of T-mo will be dead…Sad but true.

        And, point of fact, years ago, T-mobile USA lead with profits for DT.

        Also, let’s not forget that a few years ago, there were rumors of T-mo buying Sprint, who was losing customers but rebounded. 

        To make claims that Tmo can’t compete is absurd, 6 years ago, AT&T was hardly competition for t-mobile (oh sorry Cingular before they put the Blue signs up and called themselves AT&T). T-mo was growing and no one trusted Cingular after they forced AT&T customers to change their rate plans. Cingular got smart, used the Blue AT&T trusted name which they had bought, and landed the excliusive rights to IPhone.

        As history shows, any underdog can turn things around with a slight change.

      • Tmoguy1

        Howie8690, Do you work for AT&T.
        In Brooklyn, we are gaining customers every mointh, In fact NYC is Booming in sales and new subscribers  for T-Mobile. No T-mobile is not as small as metro or cricket.

        And Bleed customers… How, with some of the lkowest prices out there for a major carrier. And some of the Hottest Phones.. Don’t forget, T-mobile Brought Android to market with the First android phone in the USA. G1.

        T-mo could have stayed in the game, and competed well, Unfrotunately this Buy Out has crippled the company.

        And since this buyout began, and AT&T advertised that they already own T-mobile (intentionally confusing T-mobile existing and potential customers) the comapny has been on a downward fall.
        In another year the American side of T-mo will be dead…Sad but true.

        And, point of fact, years ago, T-mobile USA lead with profits for DT.

        Also, let’s not forget that a few years ago, there were rumors of T-mo buying Sprint, who was losing customers but rebounded. 

        To make claims that Tmo can’t compete is absurd, 6 years ago, AT&T was hardly competition for t-mobile (oh sorry Cingular before they put the Blue signs up and called themselves AT&T). T-mo was growing and no one trusted Cingular after they forced AT&T customers to change their rate plans. Cingular got smart, used the Blue AT&T trusted name which they had bought, and landed the excliusive rights to IPhone.

        As history shows, any underdog can turn things around with a slight change.

        • Anonymous

          I am Brooklyn customer and I can believe that Brooklyn is gaining customers.  I would bet that this has a lot to do with the public school system.  For those who do not live in NYC, many districts do not have zoned middle or high schools and students as young as ten commute by themselves on subways and buses oftentimes to other boroughs.  A cell phone and reliable service is not a luxury but a must.  I had been a Sprint customer for years but I went with T-Mobile for my kids and Sidekicks.  Once I discovered that their coverage was much better I made the leap.  I was already fed up with Sprint’s customer service and the fact that if my battery died it was virtually impossible to get a replacement nor could I purchase a phone for full price without extending my contract or so I was told.

        • The_ATL_Guy

          Yes because if someone makes points that they support this THEY MUST work for ATT.
          Retard

    • deal with it people.

      HP TOUCHPAD.

    • Anonymous

      And your point is…? I don’t think you are telling any of the tmo readers something they already don’t know. If this deal doesn’t go through they wont be loosing customers much; it’ll just be the norm, like other companies who loose a little and gain a little through promotions etc. If DT has to sell at all costs, they are meddling with the wrong buyer imho

  • Wes Hardin

    are you all sheep??  Yes Tmobile is the only major carrier that’s lost customers over the past year but can we look at WHY???  Oh….it’s because the potential “merger” has been looming over the heads of its customers.  You cant expect their customer base to actually grow during a pending acquisition do you??  Let’s put this in an analogy so some of you “intellectually challenged” readers can understand. If you were in the market for a new car, and you had a choice of manufacturers to choose from but one of those manufacturers were at risk of selling out and had the possibility of not being around shortly after you bought your car.  Meaning, that the car you bought would essentially be obsolete and you couldn’t get it worked on, your payments were going to go up after you bought it, and there is a good chance that about 2 years after you bought it it would work anymore.  My question is would you still buy that car??? H*LL NO you wouldn’t, stop taking “well they were the only company to experience loss of customers” of of context!!!!!  

  • Anonymous

    It’s called narcissism. AT&T has it and cannot comprehend anything outside their “understanding” of the issue. I see people like this as well. Either that or they’re just liars.

  • Anonymous

    It’s called narcissism. AT&T has it and cannot comprehend anything outside their “understanding” of the issue. I see people like this as well. Either that or they’re just liars.

  • Anonymous

    It’s called narcissism. AT&T has it and cannot comprehend anything outside their “understanding” of the issue. I see people like this as well. Either that or they’re just liars.

  • Anonymous

    Hell with AT&T. I hate them so much. AT&T just go away.
    Good you are going aggressive with DOJ bcoz they will kick your a$$ now.

  • Anonymous

    Hell with AT&T. I hate them so much. AT&T just go away.
    Good you are going aggressive with DOJ bcoz they will kick your a$$ now.

  • Osama Been Smoking

    Throw T-Mobile in the bag with all the other companies that got bought out by their competitors. This deal is going through despite all this trying to block the merger case. at&t just needs to dig a little deeper in their wallets. 

    • Anonymous

      You do realize that concessions that ATT nay have to make isn’t the same thing as your red herring argument that they are buying their way out?

    • Anonymous

      You do realize that concessions that ATT nay have to make isn’t the same thing as your red herring argument that they are buying their way out?

      • The_Anus_Tit_Licker_Guy

        Did you know that you need to wake up and stop fantasizing about how this deal will not happen. I hate to see this take over happen. Calm down and drink the and go with the flow.

         

      • The_Anus_Tit_Licker_Guy

        Did you know that you need to wake up and stop fantasizing about how this deal will not happen. I hate to see this take over happen. Calm down and drink the and go with the flow.

         

      • The_Anus_Tit_Licker_Guy

        Did you know that you need to wake up and stop fantasizing about how this deal will not happen. I hate to see this take over happen. Calm down and drink the and go with the flow.

         

  • Osama Been Smoking

    Throw T-Mobile in the bag with all the other companies that got bought out by their competitors. This deal is going through despite all this trying to block the merger case. at&t just needs to dig a little deeper in their wallets. 

  • Tmoguy1

    Who hasn’t lost customers. Lasdt month alone I ported in over 10 subscribers from Verizon and Sprint in my store. Not to mention many from AT&T.

    Every Company AT&T included, has seen loss of subscribers.

    • Fred

      True that every company loses subscribers to others, but it’s the net you need to look at.

      This is for Q1, 2011:

      AT&T was up 2 million net additions 
      Verizon had 1.8 million net additions
      lowly Sprint had 1.1 million net additions.
      T-Mobile had a net loss of 100,000.

  • Tmoguy1

    Who hasn’t lost customers. Lasdt month alone I ported in over 10 subscribers from Verizon and Sprint in my store. Not to mention many from AT&T.

    Every Company AT&T included, has seen loss of subscribers.

  • BK1

    The problem everyone needs to understand is that when AT&T buys T-mobile, they will own the wireless market share (period). This will force Verizon, as a major player, to buy out a smaller carrier to re-gain market share.
    There have already been very quite talks behind the scenes with smaller competitors.
    The end result will be Two major carriers setting prices. Even if the government steps in forcing strict regulations over price, the lack of competition will keep prices set for a long time.
    Do not forget it was just a few years back that $100 for unlimited talk was an incredible deal. Competition has brought that down to $50 a month, half  the price in just a few years. That is one thing which will be gone.
    Next, think of the companies who make phones. Verizon and AT&T will decide what companies make US phones (Period). HTC, Samsung, LG, etc… If AT&T decides they don’t want LG phones, that would cause a significant loss for that company.
    This is also true for software and hardware developers, as well as the future of electronics.
    These things need to be taken into consideration.
    T-mobile is bought, they are already lying to the govt saying they never tried to compete with AT&T, when we all know they did. They lie, because they are paid to lie. AT&T is doing what they always have since they bought out AT&T years ago under the orange flag of Cingular. They buy their way to the top.

  • Nnataliah

    Its a lose lose situation, if at&t doesn’t buy out will tmobile continue existing? DT seems to be pinpointing to no, so what happens then?

    • Getmore Life

      DT wants to cash out and AT&T was willing to pay a premium to make sure that the end game would be AT&T and Verizon (VZ will remove Sprint and DOJ would not be able to block it if they allow AT&T to get T-Mobile).  T-Mobile is profitable and DT has been collecting billions of dollars on T-Mobile USA earnings even as net subscriber have gone down during the worst recession since the depression.  T-Mobile USA can survive and flourish as an independent if spun off by DT.  But DT is only concerned about the cash out price and to hell with the T-Mobile USA customers and employees.  Do not believe the AT&T and DT liars!
       

  • johnwall

    now u see at&t whinners

  • What ICantBelieveIt

    I read that if the ATT/DT-Tmo deal doesn’t go through then Tmo will either look for another buyer (some in the wings) or, DT will spin off Tmo in an IPO. DT doesn’t want T-Mobile USA anymore, that’s the fact!  I am a Tmo loyalist – started with PowerTel, then to VoiceStream, then to T-Mobile.  I am against anything but Tmo being Tmo!  I have the promo wifi calling plan for a biz acct with 5 lines for $19.99 mo for up to 10 lines with a shared bucket of 1000 mins, unlim text, mobile2mobile, disc int’l rates and my bill for 5 lines avg $205 monthly… for me, the best thing is for Tmo to spin off and stay Tmo!  BTW, I absolutely abhore AT&T – their customer service and billing are of great concern to me if the deal goes through!

  • What ICantBelieveIt

    I read that if the ATT/DT-Tmo deal doesn’t go through then Tmo will either look for another buyer (some in the wings) or, DT will spin off Tmo in an IPO. DT doesn’t want T-Mobile USA anymore, that’s the fact!  I am a Tmo loyalist – started with PowerTel, then to VoiceStream, then to T-Mobile.  I am against anything but Tmo being Tmo!  I have the promo wifi calling plan for a biz acct with 5 lines for $19.99 mo for up to 10 lines with a shared bucket of 1000 mins, unlim text, mobile2mobile, disc int’l rates and my bill for 5 lines avg $205 monthly… for me, the best thing is for Tmo to spin off and stay Tmo!  BTW, I absolutely abhore AT&T – their customer service and billing are of great concern to me if the deal goes through!

  • What ICantBelieveIt

    I read that if the ATT/DT-Tmo deal doesn’t go through then Tmo will either look for another buyer (some in the wings) or, DT will spin off Tmo in an IPO. DT doesn’t want T-Mobile USA anymore, that’s the fact!  I am a Tmo loyalist – started with PowerTel, then to VoiceStream, then to T-Mobile.  I am against anything but Tmo being Tmo!  I have the promo wifi calling plan for a biz acct with 5 lines for $19.99 mo for up to 10 lines with a shared bucket of 1000 mins, unlim text, mobile2mobile, disc int’l rates and my bill for 5 lines avg $205 monthly… for me, the best thing is for Tmo to spin off and stay Tmo!  BTW, I absolutely abhore AT&T – their customer service and billing are of great concern to me if the deal goes through!

    • What ICantBelieveIt

      PS:  I have let all of my contracts go and are ready to up for 2 yrs the minute i hear the deal is going through so i can at least keep the same plan, as per AT&T, for two more years.  By the time the contracts are up possibly there will be a better choice then ATT/VW/SPR!

      • What ICantBelieveIt

        PSS: Oh, and that $205 mo bill with Tmo includes unl data on 2 of those 5 lines! With the wifi calling plan and T-mo router (not landline hotspot, wireless calling plan for cell devices with UMA – all BB, HTC G2, and a few Nokia and Samsungs) we sometimes talk 10,000 mins a month for that price!  Tmo is the best deal out there! 

        Let’s hope DT takes the deal failure fee and spins Tmo off….!

  • Anonymous

    OMG – Un-effin’ believable!!!! Make me HATE At&t more. Who the F do they think they are. Lies/Spinning the truth ain’t gonna get them anywhere.

    • Anonymous

      Ya and DT abandoning Tmobile and giving up on Tmobile USA is a better alternative?
      If this deal fails Tmobile value will plummet and getting another investor will be that much more difficult.
      The government overstepping their bounds is scary.

      • BigMixxx

        Let it plumment.  

        Sprint is a prime example of what plumetting is.  Its is slowly building worth and rebuilding its valuable.  

        Sprint is rebuilding its value, T-mobile has significant upswing capability.  Company margins are stellar, it’s operating costs are significantly less than a billion dollars when other carriers have significantly higher operating costs.

        All AT&T is doing is further devaluing the company and beating it into the ground.

      • BigMixxx

        Let it plumment.  

        Sprint is a prime example of what plumetting is.  Its is slowly building worth and rebuilding its valuable.  

        Sprint is rebuilding its value, T-mobile has significant upswing capability.  Company margins are stellar, it’s operating costs are significantly less than a billion dollars when other carriers have significantly higher operating costs.

        All AT&T is doing is further devaluing the company and beating it into the ground.

      • BigMixxx

        Let it plumment.  

        Sprint is a prime example of what plumetting is.  Its is slowly building worth and rebuilding its valuable.  

        Sprint is rebuilding its value, T-mobile has significant upswing capability.  Company margins are stellar, it’s operating costs are significantly less than a billion dollars when other carriers have significantly higher operating costs.

        All AT&T is doing is further devaluing the company and beating it into the ground.

      • BigMixxx

        Let it plumment.  

        Sprint is a prime example of what plumetting is.  Its is slowly building worth and rebuilding its valuable.  

        Sprint is rebuilding its value, T-mobile has significant upswing capability.  Company margins are stellar, it’s operating costs are significantly less than a billion dollars when other carriers have significantly higher operating costs.

        All AT&T is doing is further devaluing the company and beating it into the ground.

      • Mckees2006

        really??? What would be the choice for a national GSM based provider in USA if this goes thru???

    • Getmore Life

      Do not forget about the AT&T trolls on this site. They have stepped up their disinformation game since AT&T started losing ths deal.  Do not believe the AT&T and DT liars!
       

    • Getmore Life

      Do not forget about the AT&T trolls on this site. They have stepped up their disinformation game since AT&T started losing ths deal.  Do not believe the AT&T and DT liars!
       

  • Anonymous

    David:  Just because T-Mobile is cheaper doesn’t mean they provide a better value to people (consumers).  

    If it was just about price the entire world would be with the Metro PCS’s of the world.

    There is a reason why Verizon and AT&T continue to sign up so many customers each quarter and T-Mobile continues to lose them.  

    Customer don’t find any real value in T-Mobile.  Saving $20 or $30 per month but having to put up with shotty coverage and SOS all over the place isn’t worth it to a lot of people. 

    Think about it logically.  T-Mobile could have been a more disruptive force if DT would have invested more in its network, spectrum auctions and advertising but they failed to capitalize and allowed Verizon and AT&T to get as big as they did.  

    Now T-Mobile is going to be worse off if the buyout falls through. AT&T might be a better option than to have us all be sold (divested) to the prepaid providers.  

    • I never said being cheaper is the key issue here. I said removing a competitor and having it not affect the marketplace is an issue. Metro and the other companies that were named set their sites on T-Mobile’s price market which they dominated years ago because they were significantly less than the other carriers. If T-Mobile disappears Sprint will become the next vulnerable target and could suffer as T-Mobile did at the hands of the regional players.

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      Exactly right.  The large, stable profits are made in business (enterprise).

      What matters to business customers most?  In order of importance:

      A.  Getting a signal, coverage when traveling.

      B.  No dropped calls.

      C.  Customer service. (Carriers have departments who handle business accounts).

      D.  Price.

      E.  Handsets and features.

      Fact is, business does not tolerate dropped calls (especially when talking to clients and customers, which are important calls). Business is not going to put up with shoddy service simply to save $10 to $20 monthly per line (they get discounts anyway, so they often pay less than consumers).

      The consumer market has an entirely different set of priorities, with cool handsets being at the top, but customer service being the quickest way to lose consumer subscribers, regardless of handsets or price.

  • ItsMichaelNotMike

    For those thinking that DT is in cahoots with AT&T to devalue TMOUS, as a litigation strategy:

    1. Devaluing the Company would be an indio-tic litigation strategy. DT and its first-cabin lawyers are smarter than that.

    2. No way the Croatians and others would allow DT management to degrade their investment, that’s beyond putting everything on rolling boxcars;

    3. TMOUS has been in the decline since 2009, well before the DOJ filed the Complaint; 

    4. Vdawg reasonably argues (albeit it has a touch of tin-foil-hatness to
    it): “T-mobile is intentionally allowing itself to loose (sic)
    customers so that it
    can look more like a struggling company… And that’s why
    T-mobile is laying off employees so as to look like a company on the
    brink of insolvency. The worst T-mobile looks the easier it is for Att
    to take it over.”

    If that were accurate (it’s not), such machinations would not explain TMOUS 2009-2010 decline.

    • BigMixxx

      Let me see if I can help with that:

      Direction in 2010 include announcements of:  

      MyTouch 3g Fender edition and the HD2, the Garmin phone, mytouch 3g slide….
      Other companies released, Iphone, Iphone on Verizon, the Evo, Droid X, X2 Good devices.  I would have paid more for these devices…
      Change in leadership as well as HSPA+ pushed.
      Then BETTER devices including the G2 (Good device) Galaxy Tab (good device), etc.  

      Direction in 2009 include announcements of:
      Dash, Touch Pro 2, My Touch 3g, and a phenomonal release of the cheaper blackberry series including the 8900 (which was nice).

      Other companies released: CRAP except for the original droid and droid eris on Verizon.

      2008 I don’t count, 2007 I REALLY don’t count.

      The missed opportunities came in 2010, where there was no clear direction and just out right failures in releases of premiere devices as well as utter destruction in the lower branded phones.  

      This is all leadership and should have taken the time to procure an iPhone like brand (the G series would have been a great line to push) to get a natural reinvestment in t mobile (labeled people are upgrading their phones with the Magenta T vs. going to other companies).

  • Marvin

    Yeah I’m okay with att as well.  A lot of hating on this board but I take it most of you never have owned a business much less know how to operate one yet you remain armchair quarterbacks cheerleading for something you really don’t understand.  

    ATT spent $30 billion over the past 2 years to beef up its network but there remains challenges.  T-Mobile will provide ATT with more spectrum and over 40,000 cell sites to utilize and quickly expand their network offerings to all customers.  You can’t build 40,000 cell sites anymore no matter how much money you have due to city zoning and red tape so these sites will dramatically change people’s attitude towards the ATT network.  

    T-Mobile can’t compete anymore without killing margins and they don’t want to do that.  It’s time you let her go to a company big enough to absorb the chaos.  

    • MelanieJohnson

      I don’t have an issue with at&t either.  In fact as bad as at&t may be for some people I tell you that T-Mobile is worse in many more areas.  Imagine T-Mobile’s fragile backhaul light network with 100 million users?  

      I’m in a 4G area and get 400 Kbps down with T-Mobile and that is with full signal.  T-Mobile only adds backhaul here and there making their speed claims spotty and bogus. My phone generally goes to EDGE for no reason. 

    • MelanieJohnson

      I don’t have an issue with at&t either.  In fact as bad as at&t may be for some people I tell you that T-Mobile is worse in many more areas.  Imagine T-Mobile’s fragile backhaul light network with 100 million users?  

      I’m in a 4G area and get 400 Kbps down with T-Mobile and that is with full signal.  T-Mobile only adds backhaul here and there making their speed claims spotty and bogus. My phone generally goes to EDGE for no reason. 

    • MelanieJohnson

      I don’t have an issue with at&t either.  In fact as bad as at&t may be for some people I tell you that T-Mobile is worse in many more areas.  Imagine T-Mobile’s fragile backhaul light network with 100 million users?  

      I’m in a 4G area and get 400 Kbps down with T-Mobile and that is with full signal.  T-Mobile only adds backhaul here and there making their speed claims spotty and bogus. My phone generally goes to EDGE for no reason. 

  • ItsMichaelNotMike

    I would not get all worked up over statements AT&T made in its Answer to the Complaint.  The first pages that are NOT responses to specific allegations are simply the same BS everyone puts in the initial pleadings. 

    http://litigationuniverse.com/DOJvDTATTAnswerComplaint.pdf

    The statements are made for public consumption and nothing else.  Everyone in court simply ignores this chest thumping.

    And looking at the specific responses, IMO those are silly too.  Both sides are simply posturing.

    Note: In my opinion the DOJ blew an opportunity to nail AT&T in the Complaint.  The document should have been 100 pages, containing one to two sentence factual allegations, that AT&T would have to specifically respond to, rather than answer the way it did, with long, rambling “talking points.”

    But that’s simply a choice on strategy. IMO the complaint (that should take weeks to prepare) should be carefully drafted so to lay traps for the defendant, create stipulated evidence, use as request for admissions, lock them into a position, and/or paint them in a corner that forces the case to eventually settle.

    I digress.  :)

  • Rotaryknight

    Am I the only one thinking tmo lost customers because of the iphone…

    • Anonymous

      I think theyve lost customers over the iphone but thats only part of it

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      IMO it’s a combination of factors.  While DT would certainly like to blame it on everything but poor vision and management (e.g., it was the iPhone, slow to implement 3G and move to 4G) IMO it was poor customer service.

      Using myself as they typical T-Mobile customer (two lines, buying the nicest handsets, long-term relationship, paid on time), it’s the reason I quit T-Mobile.  It got to the point where I dreaded calling customer service in later 2009 and 2010, because I would once again get upset over the call.

      Of course there’s lots of T-Mobile fans in here who say “It’s not T-Mobile that has the problem, it’s you.  If you don’t like it, leave.  The customer is the enemy, always trying to work T-Mobile, always wanting something for free.”

      But a Company cannot survive that does not take care of its customers.  Statistics have shown that people will stay with a Company and pay higher prices IF the company has good customer service.

      In wireless, I like to point to Sprint as an example of what happens when the carrier treats the customer like its doing a favor letting that customer do business with it.

      I like to point to Verizon, who has excellent customer service, the highest prices, (and never the iPhone until recently), as an example of how a business prospers when it provides competent customer service and treats customers with respect.

      And I don’t think it coincidence that when T-Mobile’s customer service degraded that it started to lose subscribers. 

      Sidenote: With the advent of the Internet a Company will be on an express train to he-ll if its customer service is crappy.

      Bonus Comment: I wonder if anyone at T-Mobile has ever Googled “complaint T-Mobile customer service” to find out and remedy problems. I doubt it since they probably don’t want to see the Google search results:

      http://www.google.com/search?q=complaint+T-Mobile+%22customer+service%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

      • BigMixxx

        Very good point about customer service.  I do firmly believe it’s one cause for T mobile failure.  Customer service just is not good across the board, t mobile and Verizon have to be far better than other competitiors.

        Couple of facts:

        1) Slow to implement 3g access is the goverment’s fault.  They were slow to execute as was the Goverment

        2) No real future outlook for T mobile.  While other wireless carriers were touting their “3g” access (AT&T) no real devices showed significant advantages until better mobile OS’s were released.  When they were released (iPhone, Blackberry BOLD, Better Windows mobile Devices), t mobile responded with Android and decided to compete with crappy designed phones (MyTouch line, the Behold II, The Cliq, Cliq XT, tattoo) with NO real device support from the company or carrier.  Really should have focused on the G series and have gone and gotten support for the G series from vendors similar to what Verizon has done with the Droid series of android phones.  

        3) Advertisement.  The Dewayne Wade and Charles Barkley thing could go FOREVER.  They were good.  The mockery of the other vendors via the Apple style commercials were good, and people got it. 

        ALL of these point directly to leadership and the directions provided by leadership.  I thought Humm would have whipped the company back into shape, but he has NO idea how to run a wireless company.

        Ah!  Humm Worked for McKinsey.  I should have known.  Explains Everything now.

        They really need to change leaders at this point.
             

        • Dabbytttt

          Humm was put in place to get the company ready for a sell. I said it then and I say it again now and I was right.

          He was the local agent behind the scenes working on behalf of DT in Germany and their shareholders.

          People can say what they want about AT&T but I for one am looking forward to LTE something I’d never get with T-Mobile. I live 45 minutes from Los Angeles and I’m still rocking EDGE and GPRS in my neighborhood.

        • Dabbytttt

          Humm was put in place to get the company ready for a sell. I said it then and I say it again now and I was right.

          He was the local agent behind the scenes working on behalf of DT in Germany and their shareholders.

          People can say what they want about AT&T but I for one am looking forward to LTE something I’d never get with T-Mobile. I live 45 minutes from Los Angeles and I’m still rocking EDGE and GPRS in my neighborhood.

        • BigMixxx

          you REALLY need “LTE” that bad?  Really?  I understand the edge thing, I’m sorry!

          But “LTE”  The need for LTE is all on the networks that need a real 3g solution (IMHO).  While LTE is fast, T mobiles HSPA+ network gets comparable speeds and comparable ping times.  at PEAK times on my G2x I get 7 meg down and a meg up at a ing of 68 ms.  I’m REALLY happy with the speed.  It’s the freaking device that pisess me off.  Thank the Sweet folks of XDA-developers.com for my stability on my phone!

        • ItsMichaelNotMike

          Exactly right.  I was duped when when DT announced Humm’s arrival.  I thought DT brought him in to whip TMOUS into shape.  I chortled how things were going to be so much better with Humm on board.

          Boy was I a sucker.  Turns out he was imported to supervise TMOUS’s sale.  (While I knew his resume included expertly handling some European divestitures, I really called it wrong on why he showed up here.)

          Oh well, sometimes my crystal ball is opaque.

      • BigMixxx

        Also take a read and look at the direction.  Humm was an admirer of what Apple has done with the phone.

        http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2011/02/t-mobile-ceo-philipp-humm-steve-jobs-iphone.html
        “How do you see Steve Jobs’ role as a technologist and his contribution to consumer technology?Steve Jobs has created an empire and brought Apple to fantastic heights.  It’s amazing what this man has done for the business.I remember when I was at business school in ’82, we already had two series of business cases on Apple versus Microsoft.Now he’s made a fantastic breakthrough on the phone.  He showed the wireless industry what a user interface should look like — he fundamentally changed our industry.”Not just a month later….AT&T announces a 39 billion dollar purchase.

      • BigMixxx

        Also take a read and look at the direction.  Humm was an admirer of what Apple has done with the phone.

        http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2011/02/t-mobile-ceo-philipp-humm-steve-jobs-iphone.html
        “How do you see Steve Jobs’ role as a technologist and his contribution to consumer technology?Steve Jobs has created an empire and brought Apple to fantastic heights.  It’s amazing what this man has done for the business.I remember when I was at business school in ’82, we already had two series of business cases on Apple versus Microsoft.Now he’s made a fantastic breakthrough on the phone.  He showed the wireless industry what a user interface should look like — he fundamentally changed our industry.”Not just a month later….AT&T announces a 39 billion dollar purchase.

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      IMO it’s a combination of factors.  While DT would certainly like to blame it on everything but poor vision and management (e.g., it was the iPhone, slow to implement 3G and move to 4G) IMO it was poor customer service.

      Using myself as they typical T-Mobile customer (two lines, buying the nicest handsets, long-term relationship, paid on time), it’s the reason I quit T-Mobile.  It got to the point where I dreaded calling customer service in later 2009 and 2010, because I would once again get upset over the call.

      Of course there’s lots of T-Mobile fans in here who say “It’s not T-Mobile that has the problem, it’s you.  If you don’t like it, leave.  The customer is the enemy, always trying to work T-Mobile, always wanting something for free.”

      But a Company cannot survive that does not take care of its customers.  Statistics have shown that people will stay with a Company and pay higher prices IF the company has good customer service.

      In wireless, I like to point to Sprint as an example of what happens when the carrier treats the customer like its doing a favor letting that customer do business with it.

      I like to point to Verizon, who has excellent customer service, the highest prices, (and never the iPhone until recently), as an example of how a business prospers when it provides competent customer service and treats customers with respect.

      And I don’t think it coincidence that when T-Mobile’s customer service degraded that it started to lose subscribers. 

      Sidenote: With the advent of the Internet a Company will be on an express train to he-ll if its customer service is crappy.

      Bonus Comment: I wonder if anyone at T-Mobile has ever Googled “complaint T-Mobile customer service” to find out and remedy problems. I doubt it since they probably don’t want to see the Google search results:

      http://www.google.com/search?q=complaint+T-Mobile+%22customer+service%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

  • Hdtvguy

    ATT surely has gotten themselves some really good halucionagenic drugs. They suck and TMO is bleeding customers because they don’t want to be ATT customers. I left TMO after 7 years because I hate ATT

    • Anonymous

      Yup same for me, 7 or 8 years here, went to Sprint, bad for me Sprint here is awful and I have to jump ship again.  Was Cingular before T-Mobile.. ugh

      • Anonymous

        I’m surely going to jump ship once the next iPhone comes out. Was thinking of going Sprint due to their plan & pricing, but after I researched, heard that Coverage is bad, network delay (text) and data speed is awfully slow. I can’t deal with that. I’m off to Verizon once the phone is out.

        If the deal doesn’t go through then T-Mobile will have a hard time trying to gain back their customer because AT&T is the one that lead subscriber flee off to other providers because they don’t want to be w/ AT&T.

    • DuTcH PaPi

      Can I ask a question?  I mean no disrespect to anyone who is considering leaving T-Mobile or anyone that has already left because of this because of this now-not-likely-to-happen acquisition.

      Why would you prematurely leave T-Mobile for another non-AT&T carrier if you have been with happy with T-Mobile for so long?  If the reason is solely because of the AT&T deal, why wouldn’t you wait to see if it even pans out?  I’m just trying to understand the reasoning.  Why not continue with the service you’ve been so happy with and ride it out until you no longer benefit from retaining T-Mo’s services?

      Believe me, I’m no AT&T fan.  I left them for T-Mo because their service in my house sucked and their ridiculously high prices.  I have NEVER looked back.  I love T-Mo!  Their extremely low and competitive rate plans, now excellent selection of phones, WiFi calling, great cell service, great (to sometimes just good) customer service…

      If your recent experience with T-Mobile is different than mine, that’s a completely different story and I understand why you’re leaving, but leaving before it’s officially announced whether or not this acquisition is happening…….?

  • Hdtvguy

    ATT surely has gotten themselves some really good halucionagenic drugs. They suck and TMO is bleeding customers because they don’t want to be ATT customers. I left TMO after 7 years because I hate ATT

  • Anonymous

    How is this any different than a child flatly lying to their parents in favor of the thing they want?  Ok ok, so its adults lying to their government in the hopes that they will get the thing they want.

  • Anonymous

    How is this any different than a child flatly lying to their parents in favor of the thing they want?  Ok ok, so its adults lying to their government in the hopes that they will get the thing they want.

  • Getmore Life

    Troll.  Goto another site.  Do not believe the AT&T and DT liars!
     

    • Anonymous

      LOL!

    • Anonymous

      LOL!

  • Get_at_Me
  • Anonymous

    Is there anyway DT can back out of this deal and just sell to another buyer? 

    • IT Guy

      Nobody’s really said anything about what happens if DT backs out. I would assume they lose the $6b from AT&T, and possibly have to give up some money themselves.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah i haven’t heard anything about DT backing out either.  I guess not too many ppl have thought of that scenario based on DT’s desperation to get rid of TMO USA.  They may want to consider backing out if there’s no progress soon

      • Anonymous

        Yeah i haven’t heard anything about DT backing out either.  I guess not too many ppl have thought of that scenario based on DT’s desperation to get rid of TMO USA.  They may want to consider backing out if there’s no progress soon

  • Anonymous

    Is there anyway DT can back out of this deal and just sell to another buyer? 

  • Mckees2006

    DT phone selection has been terrible and certainly contributed to decline in numbers. Since the first Android phone G-1 TMobile USA new smartphones have either been 3 months outdated or “me-too” compared to the competition. Bottom line Tmobile USA is in this position today because of piss poor management from Germany (Douche Telecom)

  • Mckees2006

    DT phone selection has been terrible and certainly contributed to decline in numbers. Since the first Android phone G-1 TMobile USA new smartphones have either been 3 months outdated or “me-too” compared to the competition. Bottom line Tmobile USA is in this position today because of piss poor management from Germany (Douche Telecom)

    • Auser72

      Have to agree with you, I was jealous of the nicer phones the other networks has for a while. The only thing that kept me with Tmobile was the lower rates. Phone selection is much better now

    • Guest

      Yeah, I totally agree.  It would be really nice to just see DT and T-Mo USA management do their damn jobs and run the freaking business!!

    • Guest

      Yeah, I totally agree.  It would be really nice to just see DT and T-Mo USA management do their damn jobs and run the freaking business!!

  • DTATT

    Deutsche Telekom (DT) appearing like a Deal Partner” with AT&T at the DOJ hearing will lead to a network sharing agreement similar to France Telecom on the UK mobile entity.  The DOJ case adds urgency for both DT and AT&T to negotiate.  DT introduced the U.S. to GSM with T-Mobile USA.  The former SBC, now the new AT&T, followed with the humble start-up of Pacific Bell Wireless that roamed on T-Mobile USA.  The DOJ and FCC aftermath will be that global mobile operator DT leads telco AT&T into next-generation 4G with data roaming in key markets such as New York and San Francisco.  The $7 Billion break-up fee without concessions gives DT the network CAPEX to expand in the U.S.  And for AT&T, the breakup fee including roaming is a lower expense than its own build out and spectrum auctions.  As Apple iPhone 5 launches with Verizon and now Sprint, there is indeed competition.  AT&T’s urgent competition is to retain its high value data customers by offloading to another network in a network sharing deal.      

  • Anonymous

    “Without this merger, AT&T will continue to experience capacity constraints”
    So what do we do in a few years when smartphones go from 40% to 70%?  Have AT&T and Verizon divy up Sprint?

    AT&T needs to shell out money and expand their own network and not buy out the competition.  

    • Cray820

      Am I the only one who thinks that AT&T just wants to monopolize spectrum and raise prices? They have no spectrum problem. They just need to re-organize their own but they won’t because they don’t care.
       
      This deal is not about buying out the competitors’ customers. People will always be loyal to their brands. Upper income people and posers will always got to AT&T and Verizon. Lower income people and loyalist will buy form Sprint and T-mobile. T-mobile and Sprint together drove down service prices over the last few years. On top of that they are racing to increase their data speeds. This eliminates AT&T’s extremely lame excuse for charging high prices for their data services. This is why they are adamant to buy T-mobile who appears to be week at this moment.
       
      Therefore my point is AT&T will not shell out the money to expand their network nor are they buying T-mobile to provide better service. They are just trying to take out their competitor and no one is buying their BS.  

  • Anonymous

    So at&t will spend $39 billion and yet if it doesn’t go through they wont have enough money to build out their network? Feels like a lame ass excuse as to not build out their network and only doing it if they have tmo spectrum. Quit sitting on spectrum at&t and build out your shitty network.

  • Oh… so Bulls**t walks & talks. :O I wonder what else can it do.

  • DuTcH PaPi

    Can I ask a question?  I mean no disrespect to anyone who is considering
    leaving T-Mobile or anyone that has already left because of this
    because of this now-not-likely-to-happen acquisition.

    Why would
    you prematurely leave T-Mobile for another non-AT&T carrier if you
    have been with happy with T-Mobile for so long?  If the reason is solely
    because of the AT&T deal, why wouldn’t you wait to see if it even
    pans out?  I’m just trying to understand the reasoning.  Why not
    continue with the service you’ve been so happy with and ride it out
    until you no longer benefit from retaining T-Mo’s services?

    Believe
    me, I’m no AT&T fan.  I left them for T-Mo because their service in
    my house sucked and their ridiculously high prices.  I have NEVER
    looked back.  I love T-Mo!  Their extremely low and competitive rate
    plans, now excellent selection of phones, WiFi calling, great cell
    service, great (to sometimes just good) customer service…

    If
    your recent experience with T-Mobile is different than mine, that’s a
    completely different story and I understand why you’re leaving, but
    leaving before it’s officially announced whether or not this acquisition
    is happening…….?

    • Nelson Cabrera

      Dude i totally agree with u 100% I’m in T-Mobile for 5 years and I’m not leaving anytime soon or ever I’m sorry

    • IT Guy

      I really don’t see any sense in bailing ahead of time, as long as you’ve got a phone that works and are under contract. It would be silly to pay $200 to break contract, then go to a new service and buy a new phone and all of that.

      In my situation, I was relying on a nearly dead phone, had only another 2 months on contract, and wasn’t sure what to do. I was seriously considering a switch to Verizon or AT&T. I knew it would be a bit more expensive, but it wasn’t going to break the bank. I also knew I’d get better coverage in many of the dinky little towns around here that I travel through a bit.

      In the end, though, I figured my best bet was just to re-up for another two years and get the Sensation 4g that Walmart had for under a hundred bucks. It’s a nice little (well, ok it’s pretty big) phone, and it has the AT&T 3g bands also.

      I figure I’m good now should I have to — or want to go with AT&T. If the deal with them does go through, great. I can get 3g/4g on our towers, and 3g on theirs also.  If something else were to happen and it was so bad that I wanted to leave T-Mobile before my 2 year contract is up I’d end up paying a $200 etf, but I also wouldn’t have to spend $200 for an AT&T phone. Same think if by some stretch of the imagination T-Mobile goes away. No $200 ETF, but I’m all set to go on AT&T’s network.

      • Anonymous

        actually I believe the sensation was rumored to have AT&T 3G bands before it came out but it turned out that it did not have support for it. I read a thread about it on xda when the phone was released.

        this is the thread I read it on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038034

      • Anonymous

        actually I believe the sensation was rumored to have AT&T 3G bands before it came out but it turned out that it did not have support for it. I read a thread about it on xda when the phone was released.

        this is the thread I read it on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038034

        • IT Guy

          Well hmmmph that puts a kink in my plans. But on the plus side I didn’t spend a fortune on it. And I still have 12 days to return it.

        • IT Guy

          Well hmmmph that puts a kink in my plans. But on the plus side I didn’t spend a fortune on it. And I still have 12 days to return it.

    • BP

      For some people they are leaving or thinking about leaving while they still have options.  I think the scariest thing for people is the uncertainty of T-Mobile.  If a company is possibly being bought out by another company, the smartest thing to do is compare both companies.  If people decide to go to another carrier they feel more comfortable about signing a 2 year agreement.  In the end this is DT’s fault for putting T-mobile and its remaining customers in this position.

    • Freak4Dell

      I agree. For people that have great experience with T-Mobile, it makes no sense to leave. In fact, the best thing to do IF this deal actually miraculously goes through would be to renew your contract before the takeover is official. That way, you get another 2 years of T-Mobile pricing, whereas if you jump right now, you’re paying the high prices from the get go. I suppose the concern over AT&T possibly shutting down T-Mobile’s 3G band might have people worried, but I’m not sure how true that rumor is.

  • Nelson Cabrera

    This is getting ridiculous

  • Tmobile

    I just ported 3 numbers from att so them losing customers to us isnt competition i dont know what is.

  • Tmobile

    I just ported 3 numbers from att so them losing customers to us isnt competition i dont know what is.

  • Tmobile

    I just ported 3 numbers from att so them losing customers to us isnt competition i dont know what is.

    • ZigZigler

      I just ported 5 numbers from T-Mobile to AT&T so I could get the same coverage as I had on T-Mobile on AT&T in a few months. 

      I’m really looking forward to the merger!  Sure AT&T costs a little more but T-Mobile coverage is worth the switch. 

      Plus, I have the iPhone now!  Yay!  I’m going to have my whole family (We’re all on T-Mobile) switch to AT&T soon.  We have about 25 phone lines.  Even the Grandkids have T-Mobile.

      • CRT24

        Enjoy that high bill….and perhaps you missed the fact that the buyout most likely will not happen given that the DOJ is against it.

      • Then go play at the iphone site pls?

      • Lol

        wow i like reading about people being happy but what if the buyout fails, tmobile gets a faster iphone, and people who left tmobile for att get charged a higher fee for trying to go back? that would be hilarious! 

  • Anonymous

    AT&T forgot to mention that those “innovative upstarts” get nothing but outdated crappy phones. How are they going to compete with AT&T with the poor phone selections they have? Not to mention the coverage those small carriers get isn’t that great.

    I know t-mobile doesn’t want us as customers anymore but they could have at least picked someone else besides AT&T who has a history of shady price gouging tactics.

    • Ccrk

      Are u that much of an idiot to think TMO picked ATT to buy them?

    • Ccrk

      Are u that much of an idiot to think TMO picked ATT to buy them?

      • My2Cents

        Well how else is supposed to look at it?  It was a sale approved by DT, so yes they picked AT&T to buy them.  T-mobile is not publicly traded in the US.

      • Anonymous

        are you that much of a moron to realize what I was actually saying?

      • Anonymous

        are you that much of a moron to realize what I was actually saying?

    • Anonymous

      Tmobile didn’t “pick” AT&T to buy them, AT&T offered them the most money, period.  If you were selling your car, and person A offered you 5 thousand dollars because they like the car, and person B offered you 2 thousand because that’s all they can afford, WHO WOULD YOU SELL IT TO?

      • Anonymous

        Yes I know they didn’t pick them. I worded it wrong. I wish they would have not allowed att to buy them. to bad there was no higher bidders

  • Anonymous

    AT&T forgot to mention that those “innovative upstarts” get nothing but outdated crappy phones. How are they going to compete with AT&T with the poor phone selections they have? Not to mention the coverage those small carriers get isn’t that great.

    I know t-mobile doesn’t want us as customers anymore but they could have at least picked someone else besides AT&T who has a history of shady price gouging tactics.

  • Anonymous

    AT&T forgot to mention that those “innovative upstarts” get nothing but outdated crappy phones. How are they going to compete with AT&T with the poor phone selections they have? Not to mention the coverage those small carriers get isn’t that great.

    I know t-mobile doesn’t want us as customers anymore but they could have at least picked someone else besides AT&T who has a history of shady price gouging tactics.

  • IT Guy

    LTE really isn’t necessary at this point for T-Mobile. HSPA+ is fine for the next couple of years. It really won’t come into play (I think) until you start seeing network congestion and LTE’s efficiency starts to shine.

  • IT Guy

    LTE really isn’t necessary at this point for T-Mobile. HSPA+ is fine for the next couple of years. It really won’t come into play (I think) until you start seeing network congestion and LTE’s efficiency starts to shine.

  • IT Guy

    LTE really isn’t necessary at this point for T-Mobile. HSPA+ is fine for the next couple of years. It really won’t come into play (I think) until you start seeing network congestion and LTE’s efficiency starts to shine.

  • ZigZigler

    I think the FBI was wrong in filing this lawsuit.  I think the merger will help AT&T’s coverage issues so I don’t know what the problem is.

    What do you think?

    • Tmobile

      F*** att!! Bunch of cowards.

      • ZigZigler

        What do you mean?  The additional towers will help iPhone users.  Maybe you should get an iPhone too!  It’s a real great phone.

        ______________
        Sent from my iPhone

        • Anonymous

          LOL!

        • My2Cents

          Aren’t Iphone’s toys for little babies?  In fact I thought I saw one in aisle 4 Toys-r-us today!

        • Ronstoppable20

          Negative…

          Iphone=smartphone witgh not so smart user… my opinion, no offense..

      • ZigZigler

        What do you mean?  The additional towers will help iPhone users.  Maybe you should get an iPhone too!  It’s a real great phone.

        ______________
        Sent from my iPhone

    • Tmobile

      F*** att!! Bunch of cowards.

    • AT&T can solve their coverage issues on their own…

  • Voicestream199999

    I like AT&T as do most of their 100 million subscribers.  Funny it’s mostly T-Mobile, Sprint and others who don’t even use AT&T who are most vocally against them.  

    Is it cool to hate AT&T?  Is it cool to pretend that all we do is drop calls and have slow data?  I can tell you that outside the very vocal minority who make these claims most of us have a much better network experience than anything T-Mobile offers and we get coverage practically everywhere.  Can’t say the same for T-Mobile whose customers are used to either seeing GPRS or SOS on their phones display on any given day.  

    • DaveTheMan

      I had AT&T back when it was AT&T Wireless, and they were converting from Blue to Orange billing systems.  I was trying to port a number into AT&T from a small company called Ariel.  What a crappy company they were.  Biggest piece of shit known to man.  Someone cloned my phone, and I had a $4,700 phone bill one month.  After a lot of fighting, I got it to $50.00 and as soon as possible, I ported my number to AT&T.  But they couldn’t port my number for a whole month, and kept complaining about some guy named Siebel who screwed up or something strange so Ariel screwed up again and charged me for another month!

      So I got a home phone for a while, and when things got better, I signed up with this new german company, T-Mobile.  It worked better than Omnipoint, but man, the rates were great. 

      I wish AT&T had the Sidekick XD.  So I’m a bit pissed off about that.

      So I hope AT&T fired Siebel, because that’s just a cop-out excuse now.

    • DaveTheMan

      I had AT&T back when it was AT&T Wireless, and they were converting from Blue to Orange billing systems.  I was trying to port a number into AT&T from a small company called Ariel.  What a crappy company they were.  Biggest piece of shit known to man.  Someone cloned my phone, and I had a $4,700 phone bill one month.  After a lot of fighting, I got it to $50.00 and as soon as possible, I ported my number to AT&T.  But they couldn’t port my number for a whole month, and kept complaining about some guy named Siebel who screwed up or something strange so Ariel screwed up again and charged me for another month!

      So I got a home phone for a while, and when things got better, I signed up with this new german company, T-Mobile.  It worked better than Omnipoint, but man, the rates were great. 

      I wish AT&T had the Sidekick XD.  So I’m a bit pissed off about that.

      So I hope AT&T fired Siebel, because that’s just a cop-out excuse now.

      • Guest

        Funny thing is I had more issues on AT&Junk vs TMO..

    • Anonymous

      How much is your master ATT paying you to post that?!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!!!!

      • Voicestream199999

        The same amount Sprint pays you to spread FUD.  

        Makes sense if you don’t think about it. 

        • Dominic

          Nobody has to be paid to tell the truth.  Truth is that AT&T has the most dropped calls in every survey done and AT&T is the worst in customer service.  So an AT&T customer pays more for service, has worse customer service, and drops more calls but hey, you have an Iphone.

    • My2Cents

      Just checked my phone.. HTC sensation.  OOOOHH 4 bars 4G baby 4mbps.  let’s look it my brothers phone… oooops Iphone 4 no 3G in San Francisco no less?? ohhh and 757kbps.  FAIL!!!!!

  • Anonymous

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  • James Devenberg

    The reason that AT&T considers the regional carriers bigger threats (and I think rightly so) is that they are growing and adding subscribers while T-Mobile is losing them.  T-Mobile is in a tough spot.  They can’t price themselves below the regional carriers, so customers truly deciding based on budget will go with a regional virtual network operator (Virgin, Boost, etc.).  And they aren’t really THAT much cheaper than AT&T.  Yes you get less minutes on a comparably priced AT&T plan, but with AT&T you get unlimited mobile to mobile (regardless of network), so you really don’t need the same amount of minutes that you get with T-Mobile.  Honestly if I had unlimited mobile to mobile for all networks, I would use under 100 minutes a month.  Most of my family and friends don’t even have land lines any more.  

    So yes, although they are much smaller than T-Mobile, I contened that, long term, regional carriers (especially if considered together as “one” option) pose a larger threat to AT&T than T-Mobile does.

    • Gavey

      Yep.  And the smaller players like Metro and Cricket are kicking T-Mobile’s butt quarter after quarter in net adds.  T-Mobile can’t compete anymore on either end.  It’s better that AT&T takes over then for T-Mobile to just fall apart into a mess of diverstitures to the small regional players.  

      I’m a T-Mobile Business customer with over 400 lines. I’ll be damned if I get pushed off to Metro PCS.  I’m actually okay with us going over to AT&T.  I can keep my cool T-Mobile rates and get tons more coverage nationwide.  Same price + better coverage = happier employees and happy accounting department.  

      I’ve used Pacific Bell which became Cingular which is now AT&T.  I’ve been happy with my service throughout the years.  The way some of you guys freak out over AT&T IMHO is a bit over dramatic.  Then again internet posters love to be drama queens. 

      • DavidTheMan

        The other thing too is access to all of AT&T’s hotspots.  I used it every time I took a laptop into Starbucks for some coffee… Until I got my AT&T iPad.

        The iPad with AT&T service, is a winning combination!  Whoever kept bringing Android phones onto T-Mobile without an iPhone (or an iPad) should be let go.

        Have you tried an iPad yet, Gavey?  If not, check it out.  Using Apple’s iWork Pages, you can even edit documents with pictures, and then send them to your happy accountants.  Excel spreadsheets too, using iWork “Numbers” app.

        Check it out-  it’s only $9.99
        http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pages/id361309726?mt=8

        Someone at T-mobile really missed the boat on this one because an iPad with facetime video chat works, even with computers!  Who wants to see other T-mobile customers all the time?

      • Josh Lewis

        Good call.  You know, I used to have a Hotspot account until I got an iPad. 

        With an iPad, and iWork Pages along with iWork Numbers, I can accomplish everything I need, including spreadsheets on the go.  It even allows you to edit, change, use Word .DOCX files, Excel .XLSX files and I think even PowerPoint .PPTX files.

        If you get a chance, check it out.

        http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pages/id361309726?mt=8

        But here’s the thing, someone at T-Mobile should be let go for not seeing fighting to get the iPad on their network.   Even with the iPhone, you can edit videos, using iMovie, and email them to family or colleagues. 

        Not that I’m playing favorites, here but, what makes my accounting department even happier is when .XLS files are emailed, and on-time.

        And a more productive workforce means I can spend more time in the sun, on vacation in Mexico.  All I need to do is cover up the camera so no one can tell that I’m actually sipping a pina colada on the beach in Hawaii while some guy who thinks he can surfboard breaks his back.

      • My2Cents

        I’m sure all of the TMO employee’s who are going to to laid off that have families to feed are little drama queens to?  I gonna say it’s ok for them to freak out a bit.

    • Gavey

      Yep.  And the smaller players like Metro and Cricket are kicking T-Mobile’s butt quarter after quarter in net adds.  T-Mobile can’t compete anymore on either end.  It’s better that AT&T takes over then for T-Mobile to just fall apart into a mess of diverstitures to the small regional players.  

      I’m a T-Mobile Business customer with over 400 lines. I’ll be damned if I get pushed off to Metro PCS.  I’m actually okay with us going over to AT&T.  I can keep my cool T-Mobile rates and get tons more coverage nationwide.  Same price + better coverage = happier employees and happy accounting department.  

      I’ve used Pacific Bell which became Cingular which is now AT&T.  I’ve been happy with my service throughout the years.  The way some of you guys freak out over AT&T IMHO is a bit over dramatic.  Then again internet posters love to be drama queens. 

    • Cameron W3st

      The thing almost everyone is forgetting about is the LARGE number of people who have been with Tmobile for a LONG time and have some amazing grandfathered plans…I’ve been with Tmobile since 2004 and right now my bill, with tax comes to $105/month for unlimited anytime minutes, unlimited texts, TRULY unlimited data AND tethering WITH 4G (i’m not throttled or capped because I’ve been there so long) and handset protection replacement…

      I’ve compared this exact same plan to AT&T several times…and it would cost me about $155/month there ($70 for unlimited minutes, $20 for messaging, $5 for protection replacement and $45 for 4G-4GB (not unlimited) and tethering + taxes…maybe that $50 extra doesn’t hurt YOU…but to a ton of working class/middle class people, $50 month is a HUGE difference

  • ATT lives in a tunnel. Of course they believe what they shove down your throat!

    • Doesntmatter

      You can choose to believe anything Mike including the junk that Sprint or T-Mobile USA herself shove down your throat.  

      Don’t be another blinded consumer and think only AT&T (a corporation not a person) is telling lies while every other company loves you and is looking out for YOUR personal self interests. 

    • Doesntmatter

      You can choose to believe anything Mike including the junk that Sprint or T-Mobile USA herself shove down your throat.  

      Don’t be another blinded consumer and think only AT&T (a corporation not a person) is telling lies while every other company loves you and is looking out for YOUR personal self interests. 

      • Dominic

        Oh, T-mobile lies too.  Hume had come out in a conference and stated that T-mobile would not be sold but looked to merge with someone else, but then the AT&T deal came about a month and a half later. 

      • Dominic

        Oh, T-mobile lies too.  Hume had come out in a conference and stated that T-mobile would not be sold but looked to merge with someone else, but then the AT&T deal came about a month and a half later. 

  • Mobilicity

    Hi Gavey we should chat.  I’m also a T-Mobile B2B customer and have 275 lines.  My CEO is glad AT&T is taking over.  He’s sick and tired of no service all the time inside building like hotels and resorts that we frequent for meetings and events.  We have a smaller account with AT&T and those phones work everywhere.  

    From everything I’ve read so far it appears everyone is pretty selfish in their reason why they want to block the AT&T buyout.  It’s all about them and their ghetto cheap T-Zones data plan that they’re scared to lose.  They don’t care that a company like DT has a right to get rid of and sell themselves if the entity is not financially rewarding to themselves and their shareholders.  They’re a business and have a fiduciary right to smart investments.  

    There are tons of other options out there for most people.  Go to Verizon, Sprint, Sprint-Nextel, Boost, Cricket, Metro, US Cellular, Tracfone, Net 10 etc if you are that butthurt pver AT&T.  It boggles my mind how AT&T is willing to let us keep our rate plans (much less then their own customers today pay) and get a much larger coverage area at the same time and people are basically spitting at them back in the face over the offer. 

    AT&T is decent.  They may some problems in certain areas but AT&T is investing tons in their network and with T-Mobiie’s infrastructure it will be even further enhanced.  The most immediate benefit will be the combined cell site base and new added rural coverage for T-Mobile subs even it’s on legacy 2G or 3G networks.  Over a couple of years I would not be surprised if AT&T surpasses Verizon in terms of network coverage and quality with all the new cell sites giving a denser coverage area with less holes + much more added capacity for data transmission.  

  • Mobilicity

    Hi Gavey we should chat.  I’m also a T-Mobile B2B customer and have 275 lines.  My CEO is glad AT&T is taking over.  He’s sick and tired of no service all the time inside building like hotels and resorts that we frequent for meetings and events.  We have a smaller account with AT&T and those phones work everywhere.  

    From everything I’ve read so far it appears everyone is pretty selfish in their reason why they want to block the AT&T buyout.  It’s all about them and their ghetto cheap T-Zones data plan that they’re scared to lose.  They don’t care that a company like DT has a right to get rid of and sell themselves if the entity is not financially rewarding to themselves and their shareholders.  They’re a business and have a fiduciary right to smart investments.  

    There are tons of other options out there for most people.  Go to Verizon, Sprint, Sprint-Nextel, Boost, Cricket, Metro, US Cellular, Tracfone, Net 10 etc if you are that butthurt pver AT&T.  It boggles my mind how AT&T is willing to let us keep our rate plans (much less then their own customers today pay) and get a much larger coverage area at the same time and people are basically spitting at them back in the face over the offer. 

    AT&T is decent.  They may some problems in certain areas but AT&T is investing tons in their network and with T-Mobiie’s infrastructure it will be even further enhanced.  The most immediate benefit will be the combined cell site base and new added rural coverage for T-Mobile subs even it’s on legacy 2G or 3G networks.  Over a couple of years I would not be surprised if AT&T surpasses Verizon in terms of network coverage and quality with all the new cell sites giving a denser coverage area with less holes + much more added capacity for data transmission.  

    • 21stNow

      Your comment doesn’t make sense to me. You seem to be upset that T-Mobile customers want to continue to have the choice of doing business with T-Mobile. Yet, you seem to think that AT&T would be a superior company for your employer to do business with.

      Your company has the choice to go to AT&T now. Why does it take the elimination of T-Mobile through a buyout for your company to go to AT&T?

      • 09st

        Contract and ETF’s.  

        The OP said he/she is okay because they can keep their plan when AT&T takes over.  The OP has almost 300 lines not the 1 or 2 lines that you guys bitch about.  

      • 09st

        Contract and ETF’s.  

        The OP said he/she is okay because they can keep their plan when AT&T takes over.  The OP has almost 300 lines not the 1 or 2 lines that you guys bitch about.  

    • Xman0028

      this is my first time to reply to somebody’s post but i am always amazed how some people are complaining and calling other tmobile customers “ghetto” when the fact of the matter anyone who uses the slander ghetto have to have been  or are ghetto themselves…….. if att is so much better for you how come you are with tmobile? wikipedia says “ghetto is a section of a city occupied by a group who live there especially because of social, economic, or legal pressure” so was your company in economical pressure to choose the cheaper tmobile plans?  or was it your business producer that did not do their research before they signed up your company? in case you did not know att plans to do away with some of tmobile’s aws bands wich means you will only get edge speeds from what i hear and if you don’t like that get ready to purchase new att phones and plans ——-anyway that’s my 20 cents lol

    • Replytoignorance

      are you sure you’re talking about the same ATT that everyone else it. I used to work for ATT, and I will tell you that ATT doesnt give a shit about their customers. We used to be told things like “just give them an adjustment now and as long as they dont have to call back in the next few days to bitch then thats fine”….. all their customer service cares about is getting you off the phone and preventing you from calling back in the next few days. If you have a problem like network coverage or a broken phone, they dont want to fix it, they want to just get you off the phone any way possible. ATT spends tens, if not hundreds, of millions of dollars in customer account adjustments because they just throw money at customers. This may sound good, but when you have a problem then needs resolved, and att just gives you twenty bucks to get you to shut up for a few days or so they dont have to listen to you, and then they collect that money back from you on their outrageously high bills. Why do you think that the cost for service is so high. Cause the poorly invest their money. 

      Not to mention that ATT is laughable about how they say they will bring back jobs to the US. You think people are being selfish because they dont want to spend an arm and a leg to simply be able to have a cell phone. When they are trying to save money to put food on the table, or pay for their kids school, or keep the power on….thats not being selfish, thats being upset about someone trying to cheat you. Not to mention that you say go with cricket or boost or a bunch of other competitors. Do you realize how ignorant you sound. You complain about tmo not being able to keep coverage where you need it, yet you push people to go to a carrier with significantly, and i mean significantly, less coverage that tmo or any other carrier. 

      Seriously. Stop trying to be ATT’s little butt buddy and realize why people are really frustrated with this. 

    • Replytoignorance

      are you sure you’re talking about the same ATT that everyone else it. I used to work for ATT, and I will tell you that ATT doesnt give a shyte about their customers. We used to be told things like “just give them an adjustment now and as long as they dont have to call back in the next few days to b*tch then thats fine”….. all their customer service cares about is getting you off the phone and preventing you from calling back in the next few days. If you have a problem like network coverage or a broken phone, they dont want to fix it, they want to just get you off the phone any way possible. ATT spends tens, if not hundreds, of millions of dollars in customer account adjustments because they just throw money at customers. This may sound good, but when you have a problem that needs resolved, and att just gives you twenty bucks to get you to shut up for a few days or so they dont have to listen to you, and then they collect that money back from you on their outrageously high bills while you cant connect to your customers or family …still sound awesome? Why do you think that the cost for service is so high. Cause they poorly invest their money. 

      Not to mention that ATT is laughable about how they say they will bring back jobs to the US. You think people are being selfish because they dont want to spend an arm and a leg to simply be able to have a cell phone. When they are trying to save money to put food on the table, or pay for their kids school, or keep the power on….thats not being selfish, thats being upset about someone trying to cheat you. Not to mention that you say go with cricket or boost or a bunch of other competitors. Do you realize how ignorant you sound. You complain about tmo not being able to keep coverage where you need it, yet you push people to go to a carrier with significantly, and i mean significantly, less coverage than tmo or any other carrier. 

      Seriously. Stop trying to be ATT’s little butt buddy and realize why people are really frustrated with this. 

    • My2Cents

      Trust me, you won’t get to keep your plan.  It will be like any other plan.  Like for instance Qwests “Lifetime” rate plans.  Oops we eliminated that line of service, so “lifetime” means until we change the service plan. 

      Oh you had 3000 pulled minutes, we only offer a 3200 pulled minutes plan, sorry, you’ll have to upgrade to that.  Oh and by the way it’s 25% more than what you are currently paying. 

      Oh and I also love my “ghetto” T-mobile data plan, that consistently get’s twice the speed of At&t’s piece of crap network. 

      Did you also forget about T-mobile’s “selfish” subscribers who complained to the DOJ and FCC, because unlike you as smart consumers they enjoy paying less, for more minutes, more texting, more data, a faster network, and better customer service.  HOW DARE THEY!!

    • My2Cents

      Trust me, you won’t get to keep your plan.  It will be like any other plan.  Like for instance Qwests “Lifetime” rate plans.  Oops we eliminated that line of service, so “lifetime” means until we change the service plan. 

      Oh you had 3000 pulled minutes, we only offer a 3200 pulled minutes plan, sorry, you’ll have to upgrade to that.  Oh and by the way it’s 25% more than what you are currently paying. 

      Oh and I also love my “ghetto” T-mobile data plan, that consistently get’s twice the speed of At&t’s piece of crap network. 

      Did you also forget about T-mobile’s “selfish” subscribers who complained to the DOJ and FCC, because unlike you as smart consumers they enjoy paying less, for more minutes, more texting, more data, a faster network, and better customer service.  HOW DARE THEY!!

      • Postas

        I kept my old Blue plan with Cingular and the new AT&T for almost 7 years.  What are you talking about?

      • Postas

        I kept my old Blue plan with Cingular and the new AT&T for almost 7 years.  What are you talking about?

    • Ronstoppable20

      AT&T has alread said it will not keep T-Mobile cell cites in “duplicate areas”. Better coverage will last weeks, until these sites are removed to store in the vaults of AT&T backholding and unused spectrum..

    • Realcool2000

      Please shut up. Man ur on atts jock like a teenager girl on a justin bieber photoshoot. Cmon dude I guess a lot of things boggle your little mind if u really think att won’t easily find many ways to make previous tmo customers buy new phones and new plans.

      Ghetto cheep huh, u probably end ur nights away from brentwood and beverly hills running back there as fast as possible after getting smacked and punked by 14 year old “Ghetto” kids from the valley….

      If that wasn’t an add campaign in disguise as a post I don’t what passes as paid advertising nowadays. You may as well put the att logo in ur mouth and pretend its a baby bottle. Way to win the jockholding award for 2011…..biznatch.

      Oh hold on…att just called….they said good job but less teeth next time….

    • Anonymous

      I wish I had a “ghetto cheap T-Zones data plan”

      Lets see, 5 gigs of “blazing fast” data (which I don’t use all the way) for 20 bucks as opposed to 2 gigs of “horrendously slow” data for 20. 

      I think I’ll stick with my ghetto cheap plan. I don’t give a damn about coverage outside of Cincy, Ohio because I have 4g here and barely travel so AT&T wanting to buy T-Mo will do nothing for me but raise prices and give me less of what I have. 

      “There are tons of other options out there for most people.  Go to Verizon, Sprint, Sprint-Nextel, Boost, Cricket, Metro, US Cellular, Tracfone, Net 10 etc if you are that butthurt pver AT&T.”

      Maybe you should take your own advice if you are so butthurt over T-Mo’s coverage.

    • How is it ghetto if it runs 3x as fast at ATT data?  Stumped you there on that one didnt I?

      • Prochoice

        T-Zones was designed for dumb phones and old school 2G smartphones of the early 2000’s.  

        You cheap asses go through extremes including changing the phone’s APN (against T-Mobile’s own T&C’s) to use a data plan that is clearly not designed for the heavy data loads used by current day smartphones.  

        You only want T-Mobile to stick around for your own selfish reasons because of some old plans that aren’t even offered to new customers.  

        You don’t fight to keep T-Mobile alive because you wish to preserve competition in in the industry.  Your intentions are selfish as are most people’s intentions on this board and those like it.  

      • Prochoice

        T-Zones was designed for dumb phones and old school 2G smartphones of the early 2000’s.  

        You cheap asses go through extremes including changing the phone’s APN (against T-Mobile’s own T&C’s) to use a data plan that is clearly not designed for the heavy data loads used by current day smartphones.  

        You only want T-Mobile to stick around for your own selfish reasons because of some old plans that aren’t even offered to new customers.  

        You don’t fight to keep T-Mobile alive because you wish to preserve competition in in the industry.  Your intentions are selfish as are most people’s intentions on this board and those like it.  

        • mat

          How dare we look out for our own interests. People should not look out for increasing our own utility?  Your post was littered with fallacies of composition.

    • Moitoi

      ATCrap is NOT a ‘decent’ company…just ask anyone from the City of San Antonio where they USED to be Headquartered. Millions upon Millions were paid TO atCrap to Keep them here in SA. The Airport Expansions Alone cost us taxpayers more than $145 Million and STILL they left even with a 20 Year ZERO city AND county Tax Break. All to move from America’s 7th largest city to the 9th. I ENJOY paying $65 Less on T-Mo! atcrap will NEVER, EVER get my company’s business again. Period.

    • Some of the carriers you mentioned, are a MVNO (Mobile Virtual Network Operators). They use the networks of the big four providers, those carriers do not have their own networks. For example, MVNO Tracfone and Net10 both use AT&T’s network. So essentially AT&T dictates what these MVNO companies can and cannot do. They are not competition to AT&T. Another example, Tracfone, locks their sim cards to ONLY work with tracfone handsets, even if you bring an unlocked handset it wouldn’t work with Tracfone. Who decided that rule? I’m sure it was AT&T, to prevent people from bringing their “cool” phone (such as an iPhone) to Tracfone’s low prices. So please just spare us all this nonsense saying that there are other options, because that is not true. Those options are there but they do not have the phones people want because AT&T and Verizon control all handset deals, and do not give a chance to those smaller companies to grow. If T-Mobile wants to sell out, it’s free to do so, but it isn’t free to reduce competition in the United States market. So DOJ is right in blocking this deal. GET OVER IT.

  • Mobilicity

    Hi Gavey we should chat.  I’m also a T-Mobile B2B customer and have 275 lines.  My CEO is glad AT&T is taking over.  He’s sick and tired of no service all the time inside building like hotels and resorts that we frequent for meetings and events.  We have a smaller account with AT&T and those phones work everywhere.  

    From everything I’ve read so far it appears everyone is pretty selfish in their reason why they want to block the AT&T buyout.  It’s all about them and their ghetto cheap T-Zones data plan that they’re scared to lose.  They don’t care that a company like DT has a right to get rid of and sell themselves if the entity is not financially rewarding to themselves and their shareholders.  They’re a business and have a fiduciary right to smart investments.  

    There are tons of other options out there for most people.  Go to Verizon, Sprint, Sprint-Nextel, Boost, Cricket, Metro, US Cellular, Tracfone, Net 10 etc if you are that butthurt pver AT&T.  It boggles my mind how AT&T is willing to let us keep our rate plans (much less then their own customers today pay) and get a much larger coverage area at the same time and people are basically spitting at them back in the face over the offer. 

    AT&T is decent.  They may some problems in certain areas but AT&T is investing tons in their network and with T-Mobiie’s infrastructure it will be even further enhanced.  The most immediate benefit will be the combined cell site base and new added rural coverage for T-Mobile subs even it’s on legacy 2G or 3G networks.  Over a couple of years I would not be surprised if AT&T surpasses Verizon in terms of network coverage and quality with all the new cell sites giving a denser coverage area with less holes + much more added capacity for data transmission.  

  • Guest

    Of course they (ATT) would… IF the buyout does not go through buy June 12, they have to pay T-Mobile $6 Billion worth in assets.  I’m sure this is to protect that…

  • Guest

    Of course they (ATT) would… IF the buyout does not go through buy June 12, they have to pay T-Mobile $6 Billion worth in assets.  I’m sure this is to protect that…

  • J. Williams

    When is gonna be over already? Wow!

  • STRDY

    They are using the Bush Lying Method. Stick to it, no matter how absurd your reasoning becomes. Conviction turns lies into truths.

    • Ronstoppable20

      Ha.. maybe frandall stephenson will choke on a pretzel too..

    • Ronstoppable20

      Ha.. maybe frandall stephenson will choke on a pretzel too..

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      Exactly.

      For example, AT&T crying wolf over spectrum.  The FCC and DOJ know that AT&T’s arguments are a complete fabrication because there’s plenty of spectrum to service AT&T’s projected user base. After all, there’s a finite number of smartphone users out there, for all the carriers.  I have not heard anyone say that the system can’t handle the projected expansion.

      Another example, AT&T saying the acquisition would create jobs was a total lie. (Everyone is aware that T-Mobile is in the process of firing as many employees as it can, so that by the time the acquisition was approved the “T-Mobile employee problem” would have been eliminated.

      And AT&T was and is not fooling anyone with its (pathetic) PR campaign (see AT&T’s TV commercials airing what seems to be every half hour). The DOJ, FCC and insiders know AT&T’s ulterior motive was to snag T-Mobile’s towers and airwaves, sheetcan the T-Mobile employees, and take out a consumer-friendly (“value pricer”) competitor.  Not a bad days work for $39 billion, petty cash to a company with pockets as deep as AT&T’s.

      I like the DOJ retort, AT&T should put the $39 billion into infrastructure rather than using the money to eliminate a competitor.

  • ItsMichaelNotMike

    Get a load of this. The erroneous headline caused me to re-check court records to see how I missed such a significant event on Friday.

    http://litigationuniverse.com/ErrorHeadlineATTCountersuit.jpg

  • Shit

    I somehow doubt that they believe their own shit that they are shoveling.  They are just desperate, and desperate people sometimes just look like fools if they choose make up crap and try to convince other people of it.  In this case, it’s likely very well paid desperate people getting paid a lot of money to make up some really exceptionally unbelievable crap.  I doubt many smart people are buying it, but the shit shovelers apparently are okay with shoveling shit for money.

  • Chapine54

    It seems like we r getting a lot of att trolls in here !!!!!! My words to u I had att when it was Cingular and after it was merged into att I was always getting over charged under serviced dropped calls was a consistency I love tmobile I loved my g1 and I love my htc sensation I live in Vegas and u can’t imagine how much all my co workers that have iPhones on att hate the service they wish they could switch! So don’t come on here and try to judging us for fighting what we love it might be a phone carrier to u but how many carriers offer what tmobile does! Fast data, for me never a dropped call and having money to pay my other bills

    • Omorfi

      Amen! I agree!

    • Omorfi

      Amen! I agree!

  • Nbaprostar2004

    Att is a lies, lies, and lies. There data is slow. In in Mississippi and my gf have att blackberry torch and i have a my touch3g side. My Edge data is faster than here 3g. Att want t mobile because we are fast. 

    • DetroitTechnoFan

      I roamed on AT&T’s EDGE connection back in August… I literally was getting 1 kbps down. Everything timed out. Only a speed test was able to pick it up at all.

  • Anonymous

    That is not Lie man. you are right this time..
     

  • Auser72

    Enough of the bickering!!!!!!!! When are we going to get some news on SGS2 or HTC Ruby or Nexus Prime????

  • Anonymous

    I understand the dojs concern with this buyout regarding competition, but I feel like their argument is somewhat narrowminded. Att and tmo aren’t merging into one company. This isn’t two company combining forces. If that were the case, they’d have every right to want to block this deal and id support that fight. But, this is a smaller failing company selling itself to a larger more powerful company. Tmo is a place holder right now and their quarterly numbers support that. If tmo were gaining subs every quarter, they wouldn’t be up for sale. In my opinion its hard to argue competition here when the company to be bought isn’t competing in terms of growth. Sure, we now know that there are several other companies out there that are interested in buying tmo usa, but for the time being, that doesn’t matter. Dt chose to do business with att first.

    • Dominic

      T-mobile has only had one quarter of losing customers before the deal with AT&T and you should know as an employee the changes that were made in the 4th quarter of 2010 that really disintegrated the company, especially when DT sent their man in.  They were setting it up for a sale and only an idiot would think otherwise.  They made over a billion dollars in profit last year alone.

  • Anonymous

    USCC is barely competitive. They have good coverage where they provide it (mostly) but they still have customers leaving. MetroPCS/CricKet is for the truly poor and stupid, but still don’t even come close to AT&T when the net adds per quarter are counted.

    Not one of these companies is a threat for AT&T. AT&T’s high ass prices attract a different type of customer.

  • Wshelton

    TMO  a placeholder?  Right.  I suggest that you look at appendex 2 of the lawsuit and tell me how at&t will not have marketpower.  This is a hand down winner for the DOJ.

    • Anonymous

      Certain things suggest this should be a guaranteed win for the doj, while other things suggest otherwise. Based on what I’ve read recently, the judge overseeing this case is a no nonsense type of person. The doj must prove with hard evidence why the deal should be blocked based on their arguments…..their argument seemed to be based on speculation as to what would happen if the buyout gets approved. Less competition: sure when u look at the number of major players if tmo gets absorbed there would be less competition, but is tmo really impacting the way att and vzw do business? I don’t think so. Look at comparable rate plans for vzw, att and tmo……I’m not seeing their prices coming down. I will admit that sprint is in the ballpark with tmo in terms of pricing, but they’re a smaller carrier like tmo…..they can’t afford to be expensive like the big two. tmo and att are lucky sprint and verizon aren’t going after this deal in ads in an attempt to lure or scare customers away from both companies……cricket and virgin mobile have gone after them, but that doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things

      • Wshelton

        (1) Anything over 2500HHI & (2) any increase over 200HHI.  Just look at Appendex B and at&t will exceed the index in the top fifty markets except one.  Over 200 is presumed to increase market power and 100 to 200 require scrutiny.  There is only 5 markets in the top 100 (presumed) that do not have an increase over 200, and those 5 fall into the required scrutiny

  • Anonymous

    Omg.. All the ATroll&Trolls on this forum will definitely make me stop reading. Can we do something about this please David? Its ok to have an iPhone or anything else Apple but not on this T-Mo forum thats not even talking about a phone. Its getting ridiculous! Every other comment is someone trolling!

    Kinda annoying if you ask me!

    • Anonymous

      Bye.

    • Anonymous

      Bye.

  • CO_yeti

    Tmo has not been competitive the last 5 years! They haven’t grown in one quarter and continue to lose customers.  The facts are this is why DT wants out. The people that think that if this deal doesn’t go through that Tmo is going to continue to operate as they have been are out of their minds. Gone are the days of Tmo having great customer service and a good/reliable network all while losing money in hopes of gaining customers. The new normal will be rock bottom pricing and reduced quality services… a la the Cricket Plus model.

    • Nancyh23

      I agree with u T-Mobile has not been competative in along time. They need to work on a lot of things including coverage I think its ridiculous my friend on virgin Mobile gets better coverage than I do her crappy optimus v than me on my g2x . We have gone from LA, SAN Fransico, san diego, montana by car and t-mobile had sum effed up coverage on the way to those places in many little towns T-Mobile had no service while virgin mobile did. Don’t get me wrong T-Mobile did work fine once I got to my destination. But on the way there is were I had many problems with coverage were virgin mobile and at&t cuz my boyfriend has att worked fine. I was the only one without service for LONG periods of time while my brother on virgin and my boyfriend on att ALWAYS had service. Good thing they had there phones so they let me borrow them to call my friends and update my fb status cuz I cudnt on T-Mobile cuz I had bo service it really got frustrating after a while this is my first time with T-Mobile so far I had been dissapointed with there terrible coverage I had att before which worked fine man do I regret switching but its a lil too late for me to go back cuz I went over my 30 day trial so I wud have to pay an etf.. so I’m screwed …

    • Nancyh23

      I agree with u T-Mobile has not been competative in along time. They need to work on a lot of things including coverage I think its ridiculous my friend on virgin Mobile gets better coverage than I do her crappy optimus v than me on my g2x . We have gone from LA, SAN Fransico, san diego, montana by car and t-mobile had sum effed up coverage on the way to those places in many little towns T-Mobile had no service while virgin mobile did. Don’t get me wrong T-Mobile did work fine once I got to my destination. But on the way there is were I had many problems with coverage were virgin mobile and at&t cuz my boyfriend has att worked fine. I was the only one without service for LONG periods of time while my brother on virgin and my boyfriend on att ALWAYS had service. Good thing they had there phones so they let me borrow them to call my friends and update my fb status cuz I cudnt on T-Mobile cuz I had bo service it really got frustrating after a while this is my first time with T-Mobile so far I had been dissapointed with there terrible coverage I had att before which worked fine man do I regret switching but its a lil too late for me to go back cuz I went over my 30 day trial so I wud have to pay an etf.. so I’m screwed …

  • Anonymous

    I just got a $829.99 iPad2 for only $103.37 and my mom got a $1499.99 HDTV for only $251.92, they are both coming with USPS tomorrow. I would be an idiot to ever pay full retail prices at places like Walmart or Bestbuy. I sold a 37″ HDTV to my boss for $600 that I only paid $78.24 for. I use http://bit.ly/grab2002 

  • To me, T-Mobile is the best provider of phones out there.  They take good phones and dont put their crap on them like other companies (cough..Verizon).

    • Omorfi

      I agree! I’ve been with them for 11 years…back in the voice stream days when Jamie lee Curtis advertised it. Customer service is the best…and my prices were always right. I always got discounts and they always took care of me…they are worth fighting for their name. If they get the iPhone 5… It’s over! So many people will switch over….

      • Omorfi

        Not to mention that I’ve been using an iPhone for the past 5 years with tmobile and my phone has worked great! Of course there is the hassle of unlocking but I always managed to pull it off. On top of it.. They have iPhone support because they claim 80% of people on their network use the iPhones. They track that by your IMEI. Let’s just get it over with and provide the iPhone with tmobile already!,

    • CM Punk’s Text Message

      Actually, Dave, yes they do.  This is why even when a phone is finished they get the “T-Mobile” makeover before going out.  Such things as My Account, Visual Voicemail, web2go, T-Mobile TV, etc. are added to these phones.  Also why they’re locked and get the T-Mobile branding.

      Still, very nice phones!!!

  • To me, T-Mobile is the best provider of phones out there.  They take good phones and dont put their crap on them like other companies (cough..Verizon).

  • Pig-Leasher

    Why I chose T-Mobile?

    Because there is much less BS Charges like this:

    AT&T Charges $45/month & that will depend on your circumstances. T-Mobile $0;

    Note: This is a type of connection on your device to use and not a SERVICE to charge for it! They just limit it and charge you to remove the limitation of it! WTF!!!

    Here is the proof:
    http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/03/10/iphone-personal-hotspot-att/

    Please stop the slavery by AT&T…

    • ProATT

      T-Mobile charges $20 processing and $20 express shipping charges to do a warranty exchange.  AT&T doesn’t.  T-Mobile charges $36 to change your phone number and forces a new 2 year contract just to change your rate plan.  

      Not sure what smoke made you high? 

      T-Mobile hides all its fees from advertisting but they do exist.  

      • JM

        $20 process fee for warranty if you don’t have PHP and ground shipping is free. $15 to change your phone number. AT&T also renews contract to change plan. What are YOU smoking?

        • bemo

          ATT does not change contract on plan change.  I worked for att up until 3 months ago.

        • bemo

          ATT does not change contract on plan change.  I worked for att up until 3 months ago.

        • CM Punk’s Text Message

          You are wrong…I feel horrible for your customers.

          Then again, it would explain why you no longer work there.

        • CM Punk’s Text Message

          You are wrong…I feel horrible for your customers.

          Then again, it would explain why you no longer work there.

        • bemo

          I worked for the with business sales as well as retail, ATT does NOT change contract for plan changes.  You would be surprised how misinformed people are about other carriers especially ones theyve never had or worked for.

        • Anonymous

          Correct.  

        • bemo

          ATT does not change contract on plan change.  I worked for att up until 3 months ago.

      • JM

        $20 process fee for warranty if you don’t have PHP and ground shipping is free. $15 to change your phone number. AT&T also renews contract to change plan. What are YOU smoking?

      • Pig-Leasher

        But, these are all “Services…”

        They do something, and they deserve to charge for it, that simple.

        Tethering is where you try to use your phone as a modem to get connected to internet. So all you do is connecting your phone to your compute wirelessly!!!
        Is does not sound like a service from the damn AT&T to get charged for it!!!

        It would be just like when they say: you must pay $45 to use your headset using Bluetooth!!! I promise you if using headsets wasn’t required by state Law AT&T would have be charging for it…

        So make sure that you are high enough to understand my key points…

      • CRT24

        Get your facts right……T-Mobile charges 15.00 for a number change and not 36.00 and if you have handset protection with T-Mobile you only pay a 5.00 processing fee with express shipping included. But if you are correct in saying that they don’t charge for these services, which I doubt you are but even if they dont, Att charges almost double for their rate plans and charges you for data overage as well! So please don’t just cherry pick what they don’t charge for to try and make your point because it is FAR more expensive to be an ATT customer than a T-Mobile customer and that is a fact that cannot be disputed. Also T-Mobile charges the same taxes and regulatory fees that every other cell phone provide does and there are no “hidden fees” …….that is simply a flat out lie

        • Anonymous

          T-Mobile has recently added these BS fees.

          Verizon warranty exchanges my phones with free overnight shipping even if I don’t have insurance.  (they are comp’d by the manufacturer)

          Verizon doesn’t charge for number changes.

          Verizon doesn’t force 2 year contracts when changing rate plans.  

          These new BS fees are part of the reason users no longer see much value in T-Mobile USA.  

        • CRT24

          Man you really don’t get it do you????? Verizon also charges almost double for their service as well….its funny how you think charging a processing fee for a warranty exchange is a “BS FEE” and is out of line, but charging twice as much for the same service is ok. In what world does it make sense to pay hundreds and possibly thousands more in some cases to save 20.00 on a processing fee that you may nvere even have to pay in the first place?

        • Anonymous

          No see that is where you are wrong. 

          VZW charges more for much much better service.  You pay for the network.  T-Mobile charges less because they give you less of a network so you get a discount.  

          BS fees are add on fees in an attempt to squeeze more revenue from the user to increase ARPU.  And making customers sign a new 2 year agreement when they want to go up in their rate plan is slimy no matter how you try and spin it. 

          Don’t confuse the MRC with value.  Paying less doesn’t mean you’re getting a better deal.  

        • CRT24

          Really? If I have a T-Mobile and a Verizon phone side by side and I can make calls, send text/picture messages, browse the web, send/receive email, download applications and do whatever the hell else cell phones do, and I can do this at the same speed on both carriers phones then which is the “lesser network” hmm? What, just because Verizon says their network is the best, that makes it so?? Fact is that both Verizon and ATT charge almost double for the same service so once again you choose what’s best for you and if that’s paying double just so you can say “well I am in the best network” then more power to you but that makes you….well, not real smart.

        • CRT24

          Really? If I have a T-Mobile and a Verizon phone side by side and I can make calls, send text/picture messages, browse the web, send/receive email, download applications and do whatever the hell else cell phones do, and I can do this at the same speed on both carriers phones then which is the “lesser network” hmm? What, just because Verizon says their network is the best, that makes it so?? Fact is that both Verizon and ATT charge almost double for the same service so once again you choose what’s best for you and if that’s paying double just so you can say “well I am in the best network” then more power to you but that makes you….well, not real smart.

        • CRT24

          Oh, and by the way we don’t “make” customers do anything. We make them aware if what offers have contract renewals and they choose if they want to do it or not…..and if not then they are free to choose whatever carrier they want. But most see the value in what we offer and the service works for them as well. Verizon also charges 350.00 for a termination fee compared to 200.00 for T-Mobile……I haven’t heard that little nugget mentioned by any of you yet……wonder why?

        • Anonymous

          RIGHT!!!!

      • Omorfi8

        Interesting….. I changed my number with tmobile an they never charged me….hhmmm…

      • Actually AT&T charges $36 for the number change. And when I requested to change my number they did not tell me how much it was, they only said, “your next bill will be a little bit higher due to the number change.” I didn’t ask how much it was because either way I HAD to change the number for personal reasons so price didn’t matter to me. However T-Mobile is the one who charges you $15, not AT&T. Even if T-Mobile hides all those fees, that still doesn’t change the fact that their rate plans ARE much more affordable and reasonable than AT&T’s rates. And it doesn’t change the fact that after the acquisition (IF IT WERE TO HAPPEN) there will only be 3 national wireless carriers. That’s anti-competitive behavior and it violates antitrust law PERIOD. This deal isn’t going to get done SORRY! I don’t understand why AT&T wants this deal so badly… What’s wrong AT&T? Scared of T-Mobile getting the iPhone as your exclusivity with that popular handset is over? Hahahaha pathetic…

      • CM Punk’s Text Message

        Wow, you are seriously retarded.

        $10 to process a warranty exchange for expedited shipping, $10 more for next day delivery.  $15 for a change to your phone number and new 2 year contract for a rate plan.

        Rate plan is universal…You sign a contract, you get a better deal.

        Those shipping charges are very inexpensive in comparison to others.

        And the number change is to slow down vanity numbers.  For a real worry/reason, they’ll usually waive the charge.

        • Nope.  I called, and stopped in the store.  My number was from out of state, and they wanted $15 to change my phone number.

          I will probably port my number out to a $1.50/month VoIP service, put a voicemail box on it, and use a REAL vanity number. 

          I have a number that is so vain, it makes VPs shake their head.  I thought 660-0660 was vain, (it was my last vain number) but crap, how about 600-0700??

          And with the Merger, you can bet that your rates will be GOING UP, just like my number!

        • CM Punk’s Text Message

          Nope?  I already stated it was $15 to change your number…

          And, enjoy your VoIP service…I suppose, lol.

          Finally…The merger is far from complete…far, far, from complete.

      • CM Punk’s Text Message

        Wow, you are seriously retarded.

        $10 to process a warranty exchange for expedited shipping, $10 more for next day delivery.  $15 for a change to your phone number and new 2 year contract for a rate plan.

        Rate plan is universal…You sign a contract, you get a better deal.

        Those shipping charges are very inexpensive in comparison to others.

        And the number change is to slow down vanity numbers.  For a real worry/reason, they’ll usually waive the charge.

      • Uh, I have FlexPay iPhone on T-Mobile, and guess what..?  I  take care of my phone.

        AT&T doesn’t work at my house.  How do I know?  I worked with AT&T engineering and saw the real maps.  Then, I still thought I would give AT&T a try, and well, it doesn’t work.

        So I’ve had a flexpay with unlimited data for about 2 years now, while I wait for T-Mobile to get the iPhone. 

        And I’m happy to say that I will probably be leaving for Sprint in a few months for an iPhone with them if the rumors are true…

        Or I may just plop down another $400 for an iPhone, get it unlocked and take it to Cricket.  That may be the best option actually.  $49 for unlimited data seems good to me.

        Because I take care of my phone (not even a scratch on the back) I have no problem paying that kind of money because through my homeowners insurance, I can get it insured for the full replacement cost.

        But I’ve heard a lot of great things about Cricket, and the service even works in the middle of Kansas where there are a lot of crickets chirping away..

      • Uh, I have FlexPay iPhone on T-Mobile, and guess what..?  I  take care of my phone.

        AT&T doesn’t work at my house.  How do I know?  I worked with AT&T engineering and saw the real maps.  Then, I still thought I would give AT&T a try, and well, it doesn’t work.

        So I’ve had a flexpay with unlimited data for about 2 years now, while I wait for T-Mobile to get the iPhone. 

        And I’m happy to say that I will probably be leaving for Sprint in a few months for an iPhone with them if the rumors are true…

        Or I may just plop down another $400 for an iPhone, get it unlocked and take it to Cricket.  That may be the best option actually.  $49 for unlimited data seems good to me.

        Because I take care of my phone (not even a scratch on the back) I have no problem paying that kind of money because through my homeowners insurance, I can get it insured for the full replacement cost.

        But I’ve heard a lot of great things about Cricket, and the service even works in the middle of Kansas where there are a lot of crickets chirping away..

      • I am tmobile.

        Pro att you lie. I’m a tmobile rep. Number change is 17 dollars warrantry excahnge with no insurance is 20 they overnight your phone tho. Their is no extra charge. If you have insurance on your phone is 5 dollars. Yeah you would have to sign a 2 year contract if you wanted to change your rate plan but that’s only on older rate plans we don’t offer anymore

      • I am tmobile.

        Pro att you lie. I’m a tmobile rep. Number change is 17 dollars warrantry excahnge with no insurance is 20 they overnight your phone tho. Their is no extra charge. If you have insurance on your phone is 5 dollars. Yeah you would have to sign a 2 year contract if you wanted to change your rate plan but that’s only on older rate plans we don’t offer anymore

  • ProChoice

    You mean you want David to further censor these discussions to be pro-fight-the-buyout only.  

    Don’t worry David has erased many pro AT&T comments on this board so it appears.  Just give it a few hours.  

    • I’m sorry, but good lucking proving that I have deleted pro or con anything. I delete what is inappropriate…the subject of the deleted post has absolutely no bearing. I give people much more leeway on this blog than they will find elsewhere in the tech blogging community. Please by all means attempt to prove your statement.

    • CM Punk’s Text Message

      Welcome to Tmonews.  This is clearly your first time here.  I’m glad to see you’ve found your way to the comments.  May I suggest learning anything about T-Mobile or AT&T before posting outlandish lies in the comments section.

      Oh, sounds like your mom is back from the store with that family size box of Twinkies.  Now, go enjoy them and kick some @!* in WoW!!!

  • Kris

    Reasons I hope that the merger DOES NOT GO THRU…and I pray that Tmob gets the iPHONE5 cuz if they’re the only ones without it, they will suffer and be relegated to the second tier like MetroPCS etc.
    BASIC UNLIMITED TALK + TEXT
    Tmobile classic plan – 59.99 + taxes/fees (prob another $10)
    Att – 69.99 (talk) +20 (text) = 89.99 + taxes/fees.  THATS THIRTY BUX A MONTH AND NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT DATA….Reason enough to go to Boost or MetroPCS or Walmart for 45-50/monthly.

    THEN ADD 200mb DATA
    Tmobile Classic – 69.99; ATT 89.99 + 15 data for smartphone = 104.99  CrazyStuff!

    Everyone I know has an iPhone but I don’t want to get slammed with charges , esp if I might not use all the features.  I qualify for an upgrade with Tmobile but all the phones they offer me are data phones (I  have an old cheap talk plan) and the reps keep telling me I cannot get a smartphone unless i buy a data plan (even if I want the smartphone just in case I decide 6-8-10 mos. down the road to add data to my plan).  So Im basically stuck until my phone dies or I switch carriers.  

    But I must say Tmob cust service has gone way down the last 2 years (i tmay be worse now because employees fear layoffs..but its been bad for a while now…allt he way from the lowly reps to the corporate office and I ve got a long paper trail of emails and letters to prove it)

  • Kris

    They really need the iPhone to make them more competitive with their prices.  I honestly don’t know  a single soul who uses Tmobile and honestly haven’t for the 5 years that Ive been a customer.  These days, everyone seems to have an iPhone and the ones that are going for value, go with MetroPcs, Boost or Walmart Family Mobile where they get Tmobile service for only $45.  Like with so many things, it seems the middle of the market is getting squeezed so you have the people who will pay a premium for Verizon/ATT and the ones that will go bargain hunting with Boost or MetroPCS.  Tmobile needs a reason to stand out.  Personally I haven’t had problems with their coverage (except that I can’t get it at one of my friends houses) but I know a lot of ATT customers who are always complaining about dropped calls…but those are also the people who have iPhones….Plus my friends in other countries have iPhones too so I feel left out.  But right now I don’t have a need for most of the fancy features and don’t feel like paying the Appletax…BUt I recently got a Mac so I feel like I eventually will get an iPhone to keep it all in the family and all working tog ether seamlessly.  Haven’t read too many great things about Android and don’t want to get confused.

    • Anonymous

      how does the iphone make them stand out though?  That’s really just joining the crowd and being very late to the party. 

      Plus the iphone will come at a much greater expense for Sprint/T-mobile compared to AT&T/Verizon because Apple has all the power.  Even Verizon hesitated for years to do a deal with Apple because they wanted too much (and they are the largest US wireless carrier).

      The other question is…. What will T-mobile USA have to do to pay for an iphone deal? raise data prices?

      • Kris

        Well I don’t know what they have ‘ to give’ but I do know that most people I know have or want or plan to get an iPhone – so if Tmobile had a better deal than ATT or Verizon, people would give Tmob a chance.  Right now, no one I know even thinks of Tmobile…theyre not even on anybody’s radar.  People are always surprised when I say I have T-mobile.  Unless they have something better than the iPhone , they’re going to continue  to lose market share.  Without it, they don’t have anything to stand out, and every analyst or business article I read says Tmob will be left in the dust.  We’ll have to see how the  iPhone affects Sprint.. Ive spoken to a lot of people who would never have even considered Sprint who are willing to give it a chance if they have a better iPhone deal than Verizon&ATT.  As it is, the companies aren’t charging fairly….a text message doesn’t cost 20cents.  You have to have something to stand out – whether its ATT and its rollover minutes or Sprint and unlimited data or Verizon and their LTE.

      • Ali

        Um…Please get your facts straight.

        iPhone brings in more customers just because it’s the only iOS device, and people crave it.  If you don’t believe in the power of the iPhone, just look at the ridiculous expansion AT&T/Cingular went through since getting it.

        Secondly, Verizon pleaded to get the iPhone for years.  AT&T/Cingular just had the exclusivity signed in from the get-go.  This is one thing that showed how smart AT&T was as compared to somebody like T-Mobile (see, Android, T-Mobile, G1)

        Thirdly, probably nothing.  Apple already has an unlocked iPhone that you can buy directly from them that people get and put on a monthly plan.  People are willing to pay $600 just to get an iPhone, so, even if T-Mobile can’t get Apple to give them the phone, (which in and of itself is ridiculous considering the mother company has had the phone for years, now) Apple will not cut off it’s nose by only selling locked iPhones.  And probably ever again.

      • Ali

        Um…Please get your facts straight.

        iPhone brings in more customers just because it’s the only iOS device, and people crave it.  If you don’t believe in the power of the iPhone, just look at the ridiculous expansion AT&T/Cingular went through since getting it.

        Secondly, Verizon pleaded to get the iPhone for years.  AT&T/Cingular just had the exclusivity signed in from the get-go.  This is one thing that showed how smart AT&T was as compared to somebody like T-Mobile (see, Android, T-Mobile, G1)

        Thirdly, probably nothing.  Apple already has an unlocked iPhone that you can buy directly from them that people get and put on a monthly plan.  People are willing to pay $600 just to get an iPhone, so, even if T-Mobile can’t get Apple to give them the phone, (which in and of itself is ridiculous considering the mother company has had the phone for years, now) Apple will not cut off it’s nose by only selling locked iPhones.  And probably ever again.

        • Anonymous

          um… i do have my facts straight

          One major thing you appear to not realize is that Verizon had every opportunity to get the iphone before it went exclusive with AT&T.  Try doing some actual reading on Verizon’s negotiations with Apple and you’ll see there were tremendous problems there.  Largely because of how much Apple wanted for the phone.  

          T-mobile USA will be picking up the iphone entirely on Apple’s terms.  They’re in a much much weaker position than AT&T.  Apple sets very strict, difficult, and very costly terms.  Those costs are always passed onto the customer in the form of some fee or price increase. 

          Look up what AT&T had to do to get the iphone and you’ll see the level of risk they took.  Now AT&T customers are bitching about things like data caps that weren’t there when the iphone launched.

          The general theme on this site from commenters is that the iphone will be some sort of miracle, but i think there will be a heavy cost to the smaller carriers.

        • Ali

          I’m going to put this out there.  When working at Circuit, the manager over there, as well as other managers & “higher ups” told me that although Verizon was running the “there’s a map for that” campaign, they really wanted the iPhone.  The consumer base is all anybody cares about, not the product.

          Your assessment of Apple is also incorrect.  The company is very liberal in the way it is run.  They prefer for their product to be unlocked so they can reach more consumers.  You are right about the terms, everyone feels it.  Trust me, you will get your rights revoked for dropping the price beyond what Apple sets them at, unless it’s an Apple run promo.  That is why people go crazy over $10 off an iPod…

          Data caps have everything to do with AT&T being lazy about their network.  They had the most growth and merged with Cingular, yet they refused to grow out the network at a good speed.  That is part of the reason they want to buy T-Mobile, but, by this point, they could have done what Verizon has done with LTE rollout or, more importantly, upgrading and adding to their spotty and overly-congested network.

          There is no one thing that is a miracle worker.  But you look at AT&T and, before February, they had the iPhone and could basically price gouge it.  For people looking at GSM networks, getting it at a good price with T-Mobile while paying less for the network and getting better customer care is enough to drive a LOT of people there.

          Trust me on this one…In a normal day, you’d be surprised how many people show up, ask for the iPhone, then leave the store when they realize it’s not there.  The iPhone name sells itself, and taking customers away from Verizon & AT&T will be huge.  It’s not the only thing they need…But it will help grow a struggling company, especially if this deal falls through.

          And maybe in the hands of new ownership…

        • Anonymous

          unfortunately, your assessment of apple is entirely incorrect.

          They are very controlling about their product, pricing, branding, etc  If they appear liberal to you, then they’ve done a great job at marketing.

          You state that  “They prefer for their product to be unlocked so they can reach more consumers.” and yet they sign an exclusive deal with AT&T for years.  That’s not a sign of them wanting the phone to be everywhere.

          If they wanted the phone everywhere, they could have made deals with all the carriers at launch.    And of course that didn’t happen.

          By your logic, i’d be able to get the iphone on US cellular, metroPCS, cricket and every other small carrier.  We’ll be lucky to ever see that happen.

          Apple wants the phone everywhere on THEIR OWN terms.  Not the carriers terms.   If anything changes, it’s because the carriers gave in to Apple’s demands.

    • Anonymous

      how does the iphone make them stand out though?  That’s really just joining the crowd and being very late to the party. 

      Plus the iphone will come at a much greater expense for Sprint/T-mobile compared to AT&T/Verizon because Apple has all the power.  Even Verizon hesitated for years to do a deal with Apple because they wanted too much (and they are the largest US wireless carrier).

      The other question is…. What will T-mobile USA have to do to pay for an iphone deal? raise data prices?

  • zps

    AT&T’s nonsense is not to be trusted AT ALL.  The DOJ sees through this bullsh*t easily.  There is a question of T-Mobile’s viability after this debacle is over, however, AT&T’s statements are dreck, and should be disregarded.  The fact is competition will be lessened after this merger, and the DOJ (and the FCC) are rightfully skeptical; however, I pray that AT&T’s big money party will not buy off enough politicians to squeak this awful deal through.

  • This is completely total bulls**t. T-Mobile and AT&T ARE competitors. Always have been and still are! Saying that MetroPCS and Cricket Wireless are a threat to AT&T is completely ridiculous and foolish. MetroPCS and Cricket do not even offer high end handsets like the ones from the big four national carriers. Verizon Wireless, AT&T Mobility, Sprint Nextel, and T-Mobile all offer high end handsets at subsidized prices. MetroPCS only offers prepaid service and their handsets are not that popular as the handsets of the big four and MetroPCS isn’t even a national carrier. And Cricket Wireless? I have never even heard of such company, at least not here in NYC. Why? Because that company doesn’t offer any service in NYC, meaning it’s not a national carrier! Those small companies are NOT a threat to AT&T. However, T-Mobile has definitely been a threat to AT&T, and still is. T-Mobile was the first to do many things that AT&T nor Verizon would ever have done. When Apple wanted to get into the handset business, guess where they went first? Verizon Wireless! And what did Verizon Wireless tell Apple? NO! So what did Apple do next? They go to AT&T. AT&T was desperate to compete with T-Mobile (back when they had the sidekick and was really popular) that AT&T said yes and decided to work with Apple (INNOVATION AS A RESULT OF BEING COMPETITIVE). And guess what? Voila! iPhone was born! If this acquisition were to be allowed, innovation will be killed along with competition, choices, and low prices for consumers! And so will interoperability as AT&T and T-Mobile are the only carries that are GSM and use sim cards. Leaving AT&T with extra spectrum and a monopoly on GSM technology. So do us all a favor AT&T, and just walk away from this circus, as I’m sure that the United States Department of Justice can see right through all this bulls**t. They know you want to eliminate a competitor and increase prices at ANY cost! (39 BILLION DOLLARS)

    • Anonymous

      Actually the smaller competitors brought in more retail net adds than AT&T.  

      See when facts escape us we only preach from emotion other than reality.  

      • CRT24

        What is your basis for comparison for this claim?….ATT had almost 2million net adds in q1 of this year and metro pcs had just over 700k……are you talking about ALL of the smaller carriers combined? If so, what is your point?

      • Anonymous

        But all of those smaller competitors aren’t available everywhere. The only one we have here in Ohio is cricket. Their service is beyond horrible. Once you leave your home, NO SERVICE. Once you get on the highway, NO SERVICE! They also want you to pay MSRP on their bullshit phones and their bills increase each month. Who wants to have that crap?

      • So what? Like i said, this deal is NOT going to happen, there are just too many disadvantages compared to the “benefits” AT&T is preaching it would bring. 4 – 1 = 3 … So sorry and 3 national wireless carriers is the REAL fact here.

      • Nearmsp

        And do you have any data or statistics to present here or are you going to make sweeping statements without any basis? So how much does AT&T gives you per post or do they give you time off to blog? As a regular blogger here I can see 4 paid trolls here including you.

  • SPRINT’s GALAXYS2 is now being offered  for less than$100, plus free ship with contract at letstalk.
    I wish sprint’s phones were GSM/TRIBAND.  CDMA phone is useless once you take it outside!

  • TMoFan

    Pointing to metro and leap as viable alternatives is laughable. Neither of them offer service in my area, and others like Boost and Virgin are only MVNOs that piggyback off of Sprint. T-Mobile is one of the only four national carriers that’s the most innovative and always willing to try different things. They have always kept the top two on their toes by offering great rates. I think the DoJ is absolutely correct in calling T-Mobile a maverick. If that’s lost we’ll see at&t and Verizon move in the opposite direction. The only reason why T-Mobile is suffering now is because they were left out to dry by DT. They have failed T-Mobile for years and now they want a huge payday. They are now finding out that it’s not as easy as that.

  • Steve

    The more they argue their point the more it negates their stance that T-Mobile isn’t a threat! ..why be interested in a toy if no one wants to play with it unless you have a way to sell it for more than it’s worth.. ..right AT&T ..right

  • WhoAREyou

    Most of my family use AT&T so I’m looking forward to getting free M2M with all of them.  AT&T has better coverage (nationally) although it may not be true in all areas.  Can’t wait to be an AT&T customer because I’ll have a great plan with much more coverage.  

    • Steve

      ..so just go sign a contract with AT&T and all will be right with the world.

    • Nearmsp

      You must be real stupid to have waited this long. You may be waiting for a long time or worst never be part of AT&T by default, if AT&T can’t convince the Judge that buying T-mobile will not lead to LESS competition or HIGHER prices (LOL). 

  • Discuss

    I frequent a very very very popular ski/mountain resort in SoCal (Big Bear, CA) where we hike/fish in the summer and snowboard all winter.  

    T-Mobile practically has zero service for miles and miles and miles of mountain roads that millions visit every year all year round.  They don’t even let you roam off of AT&T’s 2G which sucks.  Even driving past Lake Arrowhead into Crestline again my phone shows SOS.  

    AT&T, Verizon and Sprint have service almost everywhere.  I was actually planning to switch to AT&T or Verizon but seeing that I might be an AT&T customer soon anyways I might as well just sit put and see what happens when it happens.  No reason to be all paranoid now.  

    • CRT24

      Well if YOU frequent that place and it is important that YOU have service there then T-Mobile may not be the carrier for YOU….naming every place where you haven’t had service with this carrier or that carrier is pointless! All of the “big 4” carriers have nation wide coverage and they all cover roughly the same percentage of the country but some work better in some areas but NO CARRIER has coverage in every square inch of the country so all of you please quit whining about I didn’t have service here or there and pick the carrier that has service where YOU need it!…..but regardless of how anyone tries to bash T-Mobile’s coverage….it ranks right up there with the other carriers in most markets and leads in some of those as well with by far the best rates.

      • GinaDee

        The only one I see whining is you.  The user you replied to was just giving his/her experience.  You guys need to chill and stop having heart failure over this.  AT&T is a phone company after all just like T-Mobile not your momma or your girlfriend. 

      • GinaDee

        The only one I see whining is you.  The user you replied to was just giving his/her experience.  You guys need to chill and stop having heart failure over this.  AT&T is a phone company after all just like T-Mobile not your momma or your girlfriend. 

  • Anonymous

    Who is JamieJordan? He/she stole my comment. Hahahaha

  • Hanna

    My boyfriend and I took a trip up to Jamestown here in California and I was disappointed that I had no service for a large portion of my trip and when I did get service in spots it was mostly GPRS.  My boyfriends iPhone on at&t had really good service the entire trip even in the rural areas of grassland.  If we become at&t does that mean I will get their coverage too?  I hope so. 

    • GinaDee

      T-Mobile is more of a metro carrier when it comes to coverage.  Once you leave the greater Los Angeles area and go north into the Central Valley you’ll only get GPRS or SOS for most of the way except when driving through the bigger towns like Bakersfield, Fresno or Madera.  Definitely not a reliable option to use in or near the Sierra Nevadas. 

    • GinaDee

      T-Mobile is more of a metro carrier when it comes to coverage.  Once you leave the greater Los Angeles area and go north into the Central Valley you’ll only get GPRS or SOS for most of the way except when driving through the bigger towns like Bakersfield, Fresno or Madera.  Definitely not a reliable option to use in or near the Sierra Nevadas. 

  • Anonymous

    Lol California should go with ATT.  And Let the rest of the Nation us TMobile … CA will be happy.. and the rest of us can smile at CA and see how sloooooowwww they connect to the internet.

    TMobile has a lot better coverage than ATT in all midwestern and eastern states.  Not so much once you go past Arizona. 

    My job provides me with an ATT phone which I never use (HTC Inspire / Iphone 4) which never really work, and whenever we really need access to the internet (in almost all Metro areas) everyone ends up  using the HotSpot provided by TMobile through my phone, because it provides a better coverage.  ATT data service is JOKE , its worthless.  Based on the prices the currently charge, the service and coverage provide.. they should lose their license to operate!!!  and definitively not be given more spectrum.

    • kahlayoh

      It’s funny, cause I have t-mobile and I can’t complain about my service! I’m in california too! 

      • GinaDee

        California is a huge state.  Lots and lots of well traveled highways with low population densities and poor wireless coverage.  

      • Happycamper

        Same here. I’ve been with T-mo for years & frequently drive from Mexico to Berkeley & everywhere in between & very rarely do I have any coverage problems. There are a few spots where coverage is weak, but if I can drive 15 seconds in either direction & I’m not in between two semis everything goes back to crystal clear. Most of the time I’m 4G… data, calls & everything else is REALLY good. Only spot I had consistently bad coverage was in the Outback in Australia. Had a few spotty areas in Oz, but for the most part was all good. My AT&T buddy had to rely on my phone, since he barely could use his phone. Great coverage all thru Europe too. My friends on Verizon & AT&T are always using the, I have to call you back, I’m hitting a dead zone line. First I thought they just wanted to hang up, but its always in the same areas & have been asked to borrow my phone when in the car with them in one of their known “dead zones.” T-Mo is right by me, but will bail if AT&T takes over. Nothing but problems with AT&T.

    • Hanna

      You make it sound like AT&T’s data service never works.  I use an AT&T branded 3G stick along with one from T-Mobile and Verizon.  

      AT&T’s data may slow down in certain areas but those are usually the areas where T-Mobile has no service at all.  

      Verizon to me has the best wireless data network in the US because they invest heavily in both sites and backhaul coupled with low frequency spectrum that penetrated buildings well.  

    • Hanna

      You make it sound like AT&T’s data service never works.  I use an AT&T branded 3G stick along with one from T-Mobile and Verizon.  

      AT&T’s data may slow down in certain areas but those are usually the areas where T-Mobile has no service at all.  

      Verizon to me has the best wireless data network in the US because they invest heavily in both sites and backhaul coupled with low frequency spectrum that penetrated buildings well.  

  • jon

    Anyone else notice the at&t trolls come in spirts..lol. All this ‘i get coverage with at&t and my friend/family doesn’t because they have tmobile’ is so obviously fake at&t drones trolling. Coverage is a regional/local experience. I can tell you at&t service blows in Iowa because when I visit family there, they all use iowa wireless or verizon. So, if you trolls really want to troll here, find another way to pump up at&t. Because the coverage argument is lame.
    Btw, coverage can be affected in ways that aren’t obvious to some. Like govt contracts for instance. My family was stationed in northern cali for years. The military base had a contract with at&t and no other carrier would work even miles off base…that’s not the fault of the other carriers…

    • Jenny Johnson

      What a hypocrite.  Here you are talking about local experience but you are able to give advice on coverage for the entire state of Iowa when you only visit there occasionally.  

      • jon

        Maybe I wasn’t clear. I was simply saying we could all get on here and offer local sh!tty coverage experiences from whatever carrier we don’t like. I was simply using an example..at&t certainly can’t cover every square inch of the country and trolls that come in here and try to slam tmobile for having spotty coverage in random locations is beyond rediculous. Furthermore, I find it suspect that these trolls seem to all roll in and post at once. Gee, I wonder if they are at&t employees…

        • GinaDee

          AT&T employees?  T-Mobile employees?  Sprint employees?  I honestly think you’ll have more T-Mobile employees in this forum.  

        • jon

          Yeah. You’re right. My wife is one of them. At least when we post we disclose that..I have posted several times about my wife’s 11 year voicestream/tmobile career. And last time I checked this is a site for news regarding T-Mobile. So, the trolls can leave…

        • ScaredSilly

          That’s a great way to have a discussion when it’s only one sided!  {sarcasm}

          When you have a whole bunch of uninformed paranoid people together it only promotes fear uncertainty and doubt.  Bad combination.  

        • ScaredSilly

          That’s a great way to have a discussion when it’s only one sided!  {sarcasm}

          When you have a whole bunch of uninformed paranoid people together it only promotes fear uncertainty and doubt.  Bad combination.  

        • ScaredSilly

          That’s a great way to have a discussion when it’s only one sided!  {sarcasm}

          When you have a whole bunch of uninformed paranoid people together it only promotes fear uncertainty and doubt.  Bad combination.  

        • jon

          Man, can noone in here read? Who said anything about a one sided discussion. If you don’t know what troll is, google it. As far as uninformed and paranoid, the tmobile employees are the ones most informed and accurately informed. I do agree some of them are paranoid. But hell, who can blame them when at&t is lookin to fire or turn them into union drones..

        • lolwut

          Im pretty sure you just got trolled pretty hard jon…

        • ScaredSilly

          That’s a great way to have a discussion when it’s only one sided!  {sarcasm}

          When you have a whole bunch of uninformed paranoid people together it only promotes fear uncertainty and doubt.  Bad combination.  

        • PhantomWraith

          True since all the AT&T employee’s are outsourced to India!

    • Jenny Johnson

      What a hypocrite.  Here you are talking about local experience but you are able to give advice on coverage for the entire state of Iowa when you only visit there occasionally.  

  • jon

    Anyone else notice the at&t trolls come in spirts..lol. All this ‘i get coverage with at&t and my friend/family doesn’t because they have tmobile’ is so obviously fake at&t drones trolling. Coverage is a regional/local experience. I can tell you at&t service blows in Iowa because when I visit family there, they all use iowa wireless or verizon. So, if you trolls really want to troll here, find another way to pump up at&t. Because the coverage argument is lame.
    Btw, coverage can be affected in ways that aren’t obvious to some. Like govt contracts for instance. My family was stationed in northern cali for years. The military base had a contract with at&t and no other carrier would work even miles off base…that’s not the fault of the other carriers…

  • Gabe

    I live in Irvine, CA.  ATT’s not perfect by any means but their coverage blows T-Mobile’s out of the water especially inside buildings and covered garage structures.  I used T-Mobile because my company provided me a phone from them up until this July.  I was always losing service or my phone was “searching for network,” which got really old really fast. And I’m not talking about out in the boonies; right here in town.  

    • Donna4U

      Same thing in San Juan Capistrano to your south  T-Mobile service is absolutely abysmal and has been since 2001.  We’re not even 1 mile away from one of the largest freeways around (5 FWY) and service is completely nonexistent.  Barely goes to EDGE when you get to the closest on-ramp.  Tried T-Mobile for 2 days and quickly returned the phones.  AT&T has built out our area very well so I’m not sure why T-Mobile can’t do the same?  If the buyout gets approved right away T-Mobile customers should benefit from getting service in areas they never had it before. 

      • some1

         T-mobile purchased that coverage from AT&T in 2005 (maybe 2004? i forget exactly).  Might explain somethings… just sayin

      • some1

         T-mobile purchased that coverage from AT&T in 2005 (maybe 2004? i forget exactly).  Might explain somethings… just sayin

      • some1

         T-mobile purchased that coverage from AT&T in 2005 (maybe 2004? i forget exactly).  Might explain somethings… just sayin

  • USGovt

    If AT&T agreed with the DOJ to sell all the crybabies over to Cricket or Metro PCS as a condition to the buyout how many of you guys would take the offer? 

    • LeShaun

      I probably would because att wanted a $750 deposit per line last time I tried and i’m afraid that when they buy us out i’ll get 4 $750 deposits put on my bill so i’m against the merger

      govement pleaze help us get away from att we can’t afford deposits bad economy

    • LeShaun

      I probably would because att wanted a $750 deposit per line last time I tried and i’m afraid that when they buy us out i’ll get 4 $750 deposits put on my bill so i’m against the merger

      govement pleaze help us get away from att we can’t afford deposits bad economy

    • LeShaun

      I probably would because att wanted a $750 deposit per line last time I tried and i’m afraid that when they buy us out i’ll get 4 $750 deposits put on my bill so i’m against the merger

      govement pleaze help us get away from att we can’t afford deposits bad economy

      • GinaDee

        LOL.  You’ll be okay.  Now I see why consumers are up in arms and its mostly because they are scared and have bad info.  

        You won’t have to pay a per deposit line when you become an AT&T customer.  Now if you add new lines down the road it might be a different story but not for the lines you already have active.  

        • LeShaun

          Sorry I not going to trust att they are liars and i’m sure they’ll bill me in the deposits I have family to feed and don’t need the stress this is causing me

        • Nearmsp

          “Now I see why consumers ….” And madam you are ..who?  If you are spokesperson for AT&T please declare that explicitly before dishing out advice on behalf of AT&T.

        • Cityman

          To all the people who are worry about getting charge for new phone from att. That won’t happen. I talk with sales people from att and tmobile,they told me what would than likely to happen is that.att. would come up with sim card for both phones. Also there in another choice,other than m/pcs/crict/etc. It is Simplemobile,H20 mobile.
          Iam sure there will be other companies like them sooner than later,where all you have to do is buy a unlock phone. Use there service. True you will have to pay to whatever price phonemaker wants,
          but it will be unlocked and unbanded,means no att/or tmobile softwear in it! Don’t forget a good place to get unlock phones,ebay!  This my 2cents.

    • LilMoney

      Hell no I’d be too embarrassed to say I was a Metro PCS customer.  It’s embarrassing enough to say I’m a T-Mobile customer as it is.  Metro PCS and Cricket are ghetto and their service is worse than ours.  

      • ItsMichaelNotMike

        I would agree with you, but only if we were in 2010.

        Prepaid is moving up and shedding its “ghetto” image. 

        Look at the numbers, all the big carriers are increasing their prepaid subscriber numbers, and the smaller independent prepaids are growing.

        I guess if you wanted to call prepaid ghetto, that term might be relegated to Net10 and TracFone, both who have only feature phones in their lineup.  But IMO that term is not even appropriate for them since they and other carriers are now catering to the elderly, millions of whom own their homes and don’t live in the ghetto.

        And now prepaid in the U.S. is far less ghetto than post-paid.  If one wants a nice prepaid smartphone he has to pay $300 to $400 for the phone. In contrast, post-paid customers get their panties in a bunch if the post-paid carrier wants more than $200 for a subsidized phone.

        So it’s actually more impressive that a prepaid customer comes up with $300 to $400 for a phone than your paying $200.

        Hats off to the carriers, however, making you feel special and accepted to pay $2000 to $2500 for a phone (handset + 2 year contract).

      • ItsMichaelNotMike

        I would agree with you, but only if we were in 2010.

        Prepaid is moving up and shedding its “ghetto” image. 

        Look at the numbers, all the big carriers are increasing their prepaid subscriber numbers, and the smaller independent prepaids are growing.

        I guess if you wanted to call prepaid ghetto, that term might be relegated to Net10 and TracFone, both who have only feature phones in their lineup.  But IMO that term is not even appropriate for them since they and other carriers are now catering to the elderly, millions of whom own their homes and don’t live in the ghetto.

        And now prepaid in the U.S. is far less ghetto than post-paid.  If one wants a nice prepaid smartphone he has to pay $300 to $400 for the phone. In contrast, post-paid customers get their panties in a bunch if the post-paid carrier wants more than $200 for a subsidized phone.

        So it’s actually more impressive that a prepaid customer comes up with $300 to $400 for a phone than your paying $200.

        Hats off to the carriers, however, making you feel special and accepted to pay $2000 to $2500 for a phone (handset + 2 year contract).

      • ItsMichaelNotMike

        I would agree with you, but only if we were in 2010.

        Prepaid is moving up and shedding its “ghetto” image. 

        Look at the numbers, all the big carriers are increasing their prepaid subscriber numbers, and the smaller independent prepaids are growing.

        I guess if you wanted to call prepaid ghetto, that term might be relegated to Net10 and TracFone, both who have only feature phones in their lineup.  But IMO that term is not even appropriate for them since they and other carriers are now catering to the elderly, millions of whom own their homes and don’t live in the ghetto.

        And now prepaid in the U.S. is far less ghetto than post-paid.  If one wants a nice prepaid smartphone he has to pay $300 to $400 for the phone. In contrast, post-paid customers get their panties in a bunch if the post-paid carrier wants more than $200 for a subsidized phone.

        So it’s actually more impressive that a prepaid customer comes up with $300 to $400 for a phone than your paying $200.

        Hats off to the carriers, however, making you feel special and accepted to pay $2000 to $2500 for a phone (handset + 2 year contract).

    • GinaDee

      Not me.  I’m hoping to keep my rate plan when AT&T takes over.  I firmly believe they will come to an agreement with the DOJ and avoid the courtroom.  If the DOJ and AT&T can make a deal then the FCC will play along and we’ll get all this drama over with soon enough and everyone can get on with their lives. 

      • There’s not going to be any agreement… Unless AT&T can create a new GSM national wireless carrier, this deal is not possible.

  • Erivera989

    Innovation, didn’t the whole Android thing start because T-Mobile took a chance.  Didn’t the whole Nexus start because T-Mobile took a chance.  I had unlimited data back when the T-Mobile SDA was first released, listened to internet music from Atlanta, GA to Austin, TX non stop.  As I deployed to Iraq in 2006, I had coverage from Atlanta, to Germany, to Kuwait, to Iraq, thanks to GSM and T-Mobile’s international roaming.  No other carrier had these to offer at the time.  I have not had any trouble with any service, and with only one phone since Voicestream was bought out be T-Mobile, years ago.  Best customer service, and still top notch connections.  I understand business, I know DT wants to invest more on the European market, I get that.  But, sending Humm to improve sales, and less than a year later he’s making a deal to sell the US market, did they think us Americans would let it go without a fight.  I thought he was great in the European market, what happened here, lack of advertisement, lack of aggressive innovation for the US market, or just lack of caring.  T-Mobile used to have the top phones back in the days, now we are the last to see them on the shelf.  My 2¢.

    • Ginadee

      I agree with you but if innovation did T-Mobile no good because others took their products and made them successful while T-Mobile continues to be out-advertised and out-networked by the others all the while they continue to lose customers at a rapid clip.

      If innovation and competition are doing more damage than good than it may be good for either T-Mobile as a whole to go away or put a new owner with a new edgy management team to do the work.  

      • Kim Jong-il

        Innovation is a great thing, and it makes things much more competitive.. T mobile’s problem (IMHO) is that they had/have GREAT innovation, but to be a great company you NEED to take that innovation and make it grow. T mobile was (if I recall) the FIRST to have “my Faves” where did THAT go? T mobile was the FIRST to have an Android based phone, look where THAT got them? If you cannot build on that innovation then you have nothing as can be seen….Your Best Bud,

        Kim Jong-il

        • jon

          My faves was phased out because of the even more and even more plus rate plans. As far as android, they did have the first android handset. Unfortunately, the g1 wasn’t up for prime time marketing. I owned the phone about a month before its intial release. There were several problems with it. One was bluetooth did not function period. The market was also very weak. I could remember a time when only 15 or 20 apps even existed in the market. I totally agree that their marketing stategy was dumb. T-Mobile was content watching verizon and at&t “cat fight” in ads. T-Mobile thought that playing the “nice” guy that just wants to help everyone ‘stick together’ and help customers ‘get more’ with cheap rates was a winning stategy. Well, it wasn’t. That’s why you saw them finally get aggressive with carly knockin the at&t network. I think they can turn it around, dt just needs to commit or find a buyer that will invest in good marketing. But first at&t needs to be stopped from hijacking tmobile and taking it to their chop-shop where they plan to strip it for parts.

      • Kim Jong-il

        Innovation is a great thing, and it makes things much more competitive.. T mobile’s problem (IMHO) is that they had/have GREAT innovation, but to be a great company you NEED to take that innovation and make it grow. T mobile was (if I recall) the FIRST to have “my Faves” where did THAT go? T mobile was the FIRST to have an Android based phone, look where THAT got them? If you cannot build on that innovation then you have nothing as can be seen….Your Best Bud,

        Kim Jong-il

  • Ladyluck

    I hate AT&t I cancelled my home phone with them and they still owe me $23.99 in credits.  I oppose the merger because of this.  

  • MIKEEEEE

    i just read the article from further back in my chair and it hit me, the att quoted text is typical right wing inspired corporatespeak.

    the syntax and word choice are the same words and pattterns bosses use when they’re lying to you.

    ‘bosses are like diapers,always on your ess and always full of shot’.

    if this jargon and logic prevails the DOJ challenge we’re screwed.

    only 1 GSM carrier is anticompetitive.

    if they reach a settlement let’s hope that the tiny companies like iwireless and cincinnati bell will survive and get complete and total roaming rights on the atthole network.

  • Gerald

    this lawsuit complaint is spoken like a true leftwing nut. sounds just like Obama trying to get a third stimulus passed. ignoring the facts and talking out of their arses.

    I’m surprised that they can’t get the deal done, especially when they have unions that line the pockets of lawmakers.

    but is this just a dog and pony show before the deal actually does get done?

    only time will tell.

  • Cameron W3st

    The thing almost everyone is forgetting about is the LARGE number of people who have been with Tmobile for a LONG time and have some amazing grandfathered plans…I’ve been with Tmobile since 2004 and right now my bill, with tax comes to $105/month for unlimited anytime minutes, unlimited texts, TRULY unlimited data AND tethering WITH 4G (i’m not throttled or capped because I’ve been there so long) and handset protection replacement…I’ve compared this exact same plan to AT&T several times…and it would cost me about $155/month there ($70 for unlimited minutes, $20 for messaging, $5 for protection replacement and $45 for 4G-4GB (not unlimited) and tethering + taxes…maybe that $50 extra doesn’t hurt YOU…but to a ton of working class/middle class people, $50 month is a HUGE difference

  • Cameron W3st

    The thing almost everyone is forgetting about is the LARGE number of people who have been with Tmobile for a LONG time and have some amazing grandfathered plans…I’ve been with Tmobile since 2004 and right now my bill, with tax comes to $105/month for unlimited anytime minutes, unlimited texts, TRULY unlimited data AND tethering WITH 4G (i’m not throttled or capped because I’ve been there so long) and handset protection replacement…I’ve compared this exact same plan to AT&T several times…and it would cost me about $155/month there ($70 for unlimited minutes, $20 for messaging, $5 for protection replacement and $45 for 4G-4GB (not unlimited) and tethering + taxes…maybe that $50 extra doesn’t hurt YOU…but to a ton of working class/middle class people, $50 month is a HUGE difference

    • Nick

      Exactly, I’ve been saying the same thing all along too.  If I knew that I’d be able to keep my plan with AT&T as long as I wanted to, even after buying an AT&T banded phone, I wouldn’t be nearly as concerned about the buyout from a personal standpoint.

      Also, though, looking at how much TMO is than other carriers, it makes me wonder what they’re doing wrong to not attact customers who are paying much more than they could be paying.  It can’t all be the iphone.

    • Nick

      Exactly, I’ve been saying the same thing all along too.  If I knew that I’d be able to keep my plan with AT&T as long as I wanted to, even after buying an AT&T banded phone, I wouldn’t be nearly as concerned about the buyout from a personal standpoint.

      Also, though, looking at how much TMO is than other carriers, it makes me wonder what they’re doing wrong to not attact customers who are paying much more than they could be paying.  It can’t all be the iphone.

    • Nick

      Exactly, I’ve been saying the same thing all along too.  If I knew that I’d be able to keep my plan with AT&T as long as I wanted to, even after buying an AT&T banded phone, I wouldn’t be nearly as concerned about the buyout from a personal standpoint.

      Also, though, looking at how much TMO is than other carriers, it makes me wonder what they’re doing wrong to not attact customers who are paying much more than they could be paying.  It can’t all be the iphone.

      • AT&T’s postpaid options are on par (within $10 a month) of T-Mo. plus rollover minutes are better.

        • Calling out the Shills

          How much is AT&T paying you?

        • Calling out the Shills

          How much is AT&T paying you?

      • Poor indoor coverage in cities. T-Mobile can’t guarantee service indoors, and people want service in their apartments. T-Mobile please build more towers in NYC.

  • Anonymous

    That’s the greater one by At & t because survival is for Fittest man
     http://www.iphoneleaks.net/

  • Nick

    I just hope to have answers on the 21st so I’ll know if it’s worth it to invest my hard earned money in new phones on the 24th.

  • StupidWelfareCrackAddict

    I’m against the merger because I owed AT&T $12 from back in 2003 and they sent me to collections. I paid them on the 1st after I got my check and they still sent me to collections. 

    Say no to the merger because AT&T will send you to collections if you don’t. 

    • GinaDee

      Your post has to be a joke!  Haha.  

      Some of you guys have some weak arguments supporting killing the at&t buyout.

    • GinaDee

      Your post has to be a joke!  Haha.  

      Some of you guys have some weak arguments supporting killing the at&t buyout.

      • STEPHANIE29

        Nah GinaDee…I believe that actually happened.  At&t is notorious for some BS like that.  Smh.

        • don’t pay up, get sent to collections. That’s life. Pay your goddamn bills.

        • Calling out the Shills

          How much is AT&T paying you?

  • Bad4Blacks

    This whole AT&T buying T-Mobile is bad for blacks.  Just say no!

    • Silk7412

      This whole ATT buying T-Mobile is BAD for everyone!!  Black, White,Martian. How about this. It’s bad for our country. It’s bad for all people. Heck- its bad for your dog!!!

      • BitchesandHoes

        I’m black but I support the AT&T merger fools!  There are cheap azz niggas and cheap ass trailer trash white folk all bitchin bout the merger.  Peeps of all races are cheap motha fuckas. 

        • Silk7412

          Please let me know what school not to send my kids to (yours)
          You can move now! But as you put it “Cheep dog but can’t aford stuff” peace out

        • Silk7412

          Also ladies and gentleman, I’m sorry to say that crack baby’s do grow up.

        • STEPHANIE29

          Ummm…???  I am Black and totally embarrassed by this comment…smh.  Anywho, I do not support this merger.  If I wanted At&t service I would be with At&t.  T-Mobile is the only carrier that provides 4g service in my area.  The customer service is great, I like my phone, never had any billing issues…I love T-Mobile!  

        • ItsMichaelNotMike

          Thank you for this post.

          I am writing three books.  One book is on tech for my profession.  And a chapter is on creating and maintaining a website.

          A tip I include is that the reader should never have a blog or forum where strangers can post comments.  The reasons I advise such include:

          —  People would be posting all kinds of offensive and objectionable crap.

          — Offensive and rude posts often slip by filters.

          — On the not-for-profit website the professional has work to do, not police the forum, which is what one must do if allowing public comment.

          Anyway, I needed a real life example for the chapter, as foundation for what I was saying. So again, thank you. Screen capture made.  ;)

          Sidenote:  I can PayPal payment for your contribution.  Do I make the “check” out to “BitchesAndHoes”?

          Bonus Comment: With the exception of the first sentence I generally agree with your thoughts, in particular the last sentence (cheapness crosses racial lines). You obviously have a creative mind, but you need to work on syntax and word choice.  Don’t waste your talent.

        • Anonymous

          This made me laugh. Thanks for brightening up my day! :)

      • BitchesandHoes

        I’m black but I support the AT&T merger fools!  There are cheap azz niggas and cheap ass trailer trash white folk all bitchin bout the merger.  Peeps of all races are cheap motha fuckas. 

      • ItsMichaelNotMike

        My two dogs agree with you.  More money paid to wireless = less treats for them.

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      There is an element of truth to what you say; getting rid of the value pricing carrier has a negative affect on those struggling and living payday to payday, a lot of those people being black and Hispanics.

      But as a recent study has shown, 75% of the middle class is now living payday to payday. Since everyone is struggling AT&T buying T-Mobile is bad for all consumers, not just blacks.

      Would be an interesting claim, that AT&T taking out the consumers’ value-conscious carrier violates federal and the various state’s laws prohibiting businesses from, inter alia, discriminating on the basis of race. (E.g., you could argue AT&T’s actions violate California’s Unruh Act: http://www.dfeh.ca.gov/res/docs/publications/DFEH-250.pdf )

      You would not even have to show AT&T’s discriminatory actions are intentional, only that eliminating the “consumers’ carrier” has a discriminatory affect on minorities.

      AT&T should look for a black plaintiff to sue AT&T and DT on this basis.  It would be the easiest way to confuse the issues, get the public on its side, and probably result in all the cases being dismissed, including the Clayton Act claims. In other words, inserting race into this battle is not a wise move.

  • Blablabla

    merging is bad idea,bad for the middle man,it means monopoly!

  • LeShauna

    Please say no to this merger cuz my phone is not going to work anymore and i’ll probably get a termination fee from att.  I can’t afford it.  they don’t want us to be scared but I need my phone and i don’t want att to make it not work anymore

    • Tmariett

      you arent going to get an early termination fee all youlll have to do is buy a new phone and if you dont want to be with att tmobile is going to give you the chance to get out for free so just pay attention

    • that’s probably the most ignorant thing I’ve seen on here. 1- legally, if the merger goes through and your phone doesn’t work, that’s grounds to void your contract w/o fee. 2- AT&T is probably going to give people free phones with new 2 year contracts comparable to what they had. 3- they’d be stupid if they didn’t offer epic discounts on the newest phones when the merger went through. AT&T is working their ass off to promote the merger, they won’t screw the customer in the end cause they’re afraid of the FTC

      • attdealer

        You are the ignorant one.  Once any plan or phone changes take place, the rates will surely go up.  Don’t believe it, look at every other merger AT&T has done.  If they give you a new FREE phone but your rates increase, is that okay?  AT&T is bloated conglomerate who does not care about their customers nor their dealers.  I know because I am an AT&T dealer. 

        • AT&T’s rates are higher than T-Mo’s depending on plan, but minute to minute and MB to MB w/o throttling (T-Mo’s new favorite toy) they’re within $20 a month.
          Of course AT&T is in it for the money, it’s business, but they’re going to have to do a lot of placating to keep from getting broken up AGAIN. Remember AT&T (originally Ma’ Bell) has been broken up by the government twice because they monopolized the market. If this goes through they’re going to be walking on eggshells and have to be uncharactaristically good to customers to keep it from happening again.

        • Brianb

          Actually, my plan for unlimited data, voice, and texting is $45 more dollars per month with AT&T (I have t-mobile now).  I price it out thinking I wanted the Iphone.  I couldn’t swallow the $45 price jump.  AT&T coverage is NOT that much better than T-mobile.  I had Cingular and it was pretty much the same.

          Also, AT&T jumped ALL prices up about a year after the Iphone came out.  Their own reps would admit it.  They could charge whatever they wanted because THEY had the Iphone.

        • Brianb

          Actually, my plan for unlimited data, voice, and texting is $45 more dollars per month with AT&T (I have t-mobile now).  I price it out thinking I wanted the Iphone.  I couldn’t swallow the $45 price jump.  AT&T coverage is NOT that much better than T-mobile.  I had Cingular and it was pretty much the same.

          Also, AT&T jumped ALL prices up about a year after the Iphone came out.  Their own reps would admit it.  They could charge whatever they wanted because THEY had the Iphone.

        • Calling out the Shills

          How much is AT&T paying you?

        • Calling out the Shills

          How much is AT&T paying you?

      • Calling out the Shills

        How much is AT&T paying you?

  • UnSined

    The claim that by not merging that AT&T customers will continue to have problems with their service. What about the problems that T-Mobile customers will have if the merger does happen?

  • T-Mobile is still too focused on contract/post-paid customers. MetroPCS, Cricket, Virgin Mobile, and other prepaids are stealing their bread and butter while T-Mo puts on the front of being the cool company with the best phones but all their smartphones save for the HTC Sensation are sub par and/or loaded down with bloatware.

    • Calling out the Shills

      How much is AT&T paying you

  • Djtmanbi

    they are stupid they basically said yeah we need T-mobile because they would make us faster and have better quality because we suck and need a good network 

  • Djtmanbi

    they are stupid they basically said yeah we need T-mobile because they would make us faster and have better quality because we suck and need a good network 

  • Chewy106

    T-Mobile has only really lost subscribers because of this ridiculous merger. The other “upstarts” (except US Cellular) are not national carriers, so they do not influence major competition. None of them are GSM-based carriers either. And what about the harm of increased cost for consumers like me once you get your greedy paws on T-Mobile? Isn’t paying $45 more/month for less quality on an AT&T network the same “harm” you’re claiming will be caused if no merger is approved? If your customers will get hosed without buying out another carrier, perhaps you shouldn’t have signed them up touting the iPhone knowing your network sucks ass? It’s your issue, deal with it.

    I really want some of what AT&T is smoking with these rebuttals.

    • Spooln3

      Wrong. You are wrong. TMo has lost customers consistantly for the last 3 years. Its even been reported on this very site, quarter by quarter the churn that has been experienced. If DT really felt that TMo was gaining ground and posted a solid threat at taking over the 3rd spot, no way would they be selling this off. The facts are, they are losing money because TMo is unable to maintain a solid post paid customer base. Facts are facts and the reporting on this site is comical. Such bias. Take away the emotion and all you have is the truth and facts. In order for any revenant of Tmo to survive, this deal must go through, any hope of that dies with this deal falling through. IMO.

      • Wrong wrong wrong! You’re wrong! T-Mobile can still survive without this AT&T deal. Once all handset exclusivity is over with, and AT&T and Verizon really compete for their customers without LOCKING down popular phones, then you’ll see T-Mobile grow money like leaves on trees.

  • Silk7412

    People are worried about there plans if att takes over and they should be. Quote from tmobile fornum about buyout.
    Will my rate plan change because of the acquisition?
    A: All customer contracts entered into before the change of ownership will be honored [for their applicable period].
     Do you understand “for their applicable period” is?

  • Silk7412

    One more thing about tmobile cell phone becoming obsolete after the buyout.
     
    Q:  Will I have to upgrade my T-Mobile 3G/4G device after the acquisition closes?
    A: T-Mobile has no plans to alter our 3G / 4G network in any way that would make your device obsolete. The deal is expected to close in approximately 12 months.  After that, decisions about the network will be AT&T’s to make. That said, the president and CEO of AT&T Mobility was quoted in the Associated Press saying “there’s nothing for [customers] to worry about… [network changes affecting devices] will be done over time… ”
     
    So after one year of the deal being done. It will be up to ATT on what happens next? Any one feeling good about signing a new 2 year contract. come on- you can trust ATT to do you right.

  • Silk7412

    One more thing about tmobile cell phone becoming obsolete after the buyout.
     
    Q:  Will I have to upgrade my T-Mobile 3G/4G device after the acquisition closes?
    A: T-Mobile has no plans to alter our 3G / 4G network in any way that would make your device obsolete. The deal is expected to close in approximately 12 months.  After that, decisions about the network will be AT&T’s to make. That said, the president and CEO of AT&T Mobility was quoted in the Associated Press saying “there’s nothing for [customers] to worry about… [network changes affecting devices] will be done over time… ”
     
    So after one year of the deal being done. It will be up to ATT on what happens next? Any one feeling good about signing a new 2 year contract. come on- you can trust ATT to do you right.

  • Plspyt7

    I just called T-Mobile and it is very clear that AT&T has begun to take over.  I received a robot who could not comprehend my question.  This is classic AT&T which is one reason why I switched almost 10yrs ago. Another reason, my bill never reflected my last name but my street name!  After years of requesting this be changed it NEVER happened. I don’t know that I will ever get the great service that I have with T-Mobile.  I will search for a new provider before I go through the frustration; it’s just not worth it. 

  • Plspyt

    By the way….Thanks “ma bell” you always seem to find a way to get the monoply.  Since AT&T could never get my last name correct and created an alias for me; how about I not pay you and you reimburse me for the years behind the insulting customer service!