AT&T Files Formal Response To Justice Department Lawsuit

Someone needs to tell me what is in the water over at AT&T headquarters that they believe a T-Mobile isn’t competitive. While T-Mobile is certainly the smallest of the big 4 carriers, calling MetroPCS and Cricket a larger threat than a company multiple times the size of both Metro and Cricket combined is in my eyes, irrational.

AT&T filed a formal response to the Department of Justice lawsuit on Friday arguing that competition in the market won’t be affected by their purchase of T-Mobile.

“Although the transaction will remove T-Mobile as an independent competitor, no significant consumer harm will result,” AT&T said in its filing. “The Department does not and cannot explain how, in the face of all of these aggressive rivals, the combined AT&T/T-Mobile will have any ability or incentive to restrict output, raise prices, or slow innovation. Nor can it explain how T-Mobile, the only major carrier to have actually lost subscribers in a robustly growing market, provides a unique competitive constraint on AT&T.”

AT&T goes on to call MetroPCS, Cricket Wireless, Cellular South and U.S. Cellular “innovative upstarts” that present significantly more competitive threats to AT&T’s standing in the wireless market. AT&T further believes that the Justice Department has overlooked how a combined AT&T/T-Mobile will create a more efficient company as a combined carrier. AT&T stresses in their filing that the Justice Department will create a worse situation in the wireless market by not allowing this merger to go forward.

“Without this merger, AT&T will continue to experience capacity constraints, millions of customers will be deprived of faster and higher quality service, and innovation and infrastructure will be stunted. If this transaction does not close due to Plaintiff’s lawsuit, wireless consumers will, as the FCC Chairman predicts, increasingly face higher prices and lower quality.”

Am I the only one who finds the AT&T statements here are a little far fetched? I understand that in order to gain approval they aren’t going to call T-Mobile a serious threat but do they honestly believe the DOJ won’t consider T-Mobile a competitor?

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  • http://twitter.com/KARMA773 Karma

    SPRINT’s GALAXYS2 is now being offered  for less than$100, plus free ship with contract at letstalk.
    I wish sprint’s phones were GSM/TRIBAND.  CDMA phone is useless once you take it outside!

  • TMoFan

    Pointing to metro and leap as viable alternatives is laughable. Neither of them offer service in my area, and others like Boost and Virgin are only MVNOs that piggyback off of Sprint. T-Mobile is one of the only four national carriers that’s the most innovative and always willing to try different things. They have always kept the top two on their toes by offering great rates. I think the DoJ is absolutely correct in calling T-Mobile a maverick. If that’s lost we’ll see at&t and Verizon move in the opposite direction. The only reason why T-Mobile is suffering now is because they were left out to dry by DT. They have failed T-Mobile for years and now they want a huge payday. They are now finding out that it’s not as easy as that.

  • Steve

    The more they argue their point the more it negates their stance that T-Mobile isn’t a threat! ..why be interested in a toy if no one wants to play with it unless you have a way to sell it for more than it’s worth.. ..right AT&T ..right

  • WhoAREyou

    Most of my family use AT&T so I’m looking forward to getting free M2M with all of them.  AT&T has better coverage (nationally) although it may not be true in all areas.  Can’t wait to be an AT&T customer because I’ll have a great plan with much more coverage.  

    • Steve

      ..so just go sign a contract with AT&T and all will be right with the world.

    • Nearmsp

      You must be real stupid to have waited this long. You may be waiting for a long time or worst never be part of AT&T by default, if AT&T can’t convince the Judge that buying T-mobile will not lead to LESS competition or HIGHER prices (LOL). 

  • Discuss

    I frequent a very very very popular ski/mountain resort in SoCal (Big Bear, CA) where we hike/fish in the summer and snowboard all winter.  

    T-Mobile practically has zero service for miles and miles and miles of mountain roads that millions visit every year all year round.  They don’t even let you roam off of AT&T’s 2G which sucks.  Even driving past Lake Arrowhead into Crestline again my phone shows SOS.  

    AT&T, Verizon and Sprint have service almost everywhere.  I was actually planning to switch to AT&T or Verizon but seeing that I might be an AT&T customer soon anyways I might as well just sit put and see what happens when it happens.  No reason to be all paranoid now.  

    • CRT24

      Well if YOU frequent that place and it is important that YOU have service there then T-Mobile may not be the carrier for YOU….naming every place where you haven’t had service with this carrier or that carrier is pointless! All of the “big 4″ carriers have nation wide coverage and they all cover roughly the same percentage of the country but some work better in some areas but NO CARRIER has coverage in every square inch of the country so all of you please quit whining about I didn’t have service here or there and pick the carrier that has service where YOU need it!…..but regardless of how anyone tries to bash T-Mobile’s coverage….it ranks right up there with the other carriers in most markets and leads in some of those as well with by far the best rates.

      • GinaDee

        The only one I see whining is you.  The user you replied to was just giving his/her experience.  You guys need to chill and stop having heart failure over this.  AT&T is a phone company after all just like T-Mobile not your momma or your girlfriend. 

      • GinaDee

        The only one I see whining is you.  The user you replied to was just giving his/her experience.  You guys need to chill and stop having heart failure over this.  AT&T is a phone company after all just like T-Mobile not your momma or your girlfriend. 

  • Anonymous

    Who is JamieJordan? He/she stole my comment. Hahahaha

  • Hanna

    My boyfriend and I took a trip up to Jamestown here in California and I was disappointed that I had no service for a large portion of my trip and when I did get service in spots it was mostly GPRS.  My boyfriends iPhone on at&t had really good service the entire trip even in the rural areas of grassland.  If we become at&t does that mean I will get their coverage too?  I hope so. 

    • GinaDee

      T-Mobile is more of a metro carrier when it comes to coverage.  Once you leave the greater Los Angeles area and go north into the Central Valley you’ll only get GPRS or SOS for most of the way except when driving through the bigger towns like Bakersfield, Fresno or Madera.  Definitely not a reliable option to use in or near the Sierra Nevadas. 

    • GinaDee

      T-Mobile is more of a metro carrier when it comes to coverage.  Once you leave the greater Los Angeles area and go north into the Central Valley you’ll only get GPRS or SOS for most of the way except when driving through the bigger towns like Bakersfield, Fresno or Madera.  Definitely not a reliable option to use in or near the Sierra Nevadas. 

  • Anonymous

    Lol California should go with ATT.  And Let the rest of the Nation us TMobile … CA will be happy.. and the rest of us can smile at CA and see how sloooooowwww they connect to the internet.

    TMobile has a lot better coverage than ATT in all midwestern and eastern states.  Not so much once you go past Arizona. 

    My job provides me with an ATT phone which I never use (HTC Inspire / Iphone 4) which never really work, and whenever we really need access to the internet (in almost all Metro areas) everyone ends up  using the HotSpot provided by TMobile through my phone, because it provides a better coverage.  ATT data service is JOKE , its worthless.  Based on the prices the currently charge, the service and coverage provide.. they should lose their license to operate!!!  and definitively not be given more spectrum.

    • kahlayoh

      It’s funny, cause I have t-mobile and I can’t complain about my service! I’m in california too! 

      • GinaDee

        California is a huge state.  Lots and lots of well traveled highways with low population densities and poor wireless coverage.  

      • Happycamper

        Same here. I’ve been with T-mo for years & frequently drive from Mexico to Berkeley & everywhere in between & very rarely do I have any coverage problems. There are a few spots where coverage is weak, but if I can drive 15 seconds in either direction & I’m not in between two semis everything goes back to crystal clear. Most of the time I’m 4G… data, calls & everything else is REALLY good. Only spot I had consistently bad coverage was in the Outback in Australia. Had a few spotty areas in Oz, but for the most part was all good. My AT&T buddy had to rely on my phone, since he barely could use his phone. Great coverage all thru Europe too. My friends on Verizon & AT&T are always using the, I have to call you back, I’m hitting a dead zone line. First I thought they just wanted to hang up, but its always in the same areas & have been asked to borrow my phone when in the car with them in one of their known “dead zones.” T-Mo is right by me, but will bail if AT&T takes over. Nothing but problems with AT&T.

    • Hanna

      You make it sound like AT&T’s data service never works.  I use an AT&T branded 3G stick along with one from T-Mobile and Verizon.  

      AT&T’s data may slow down in certain areas but those are usually the areas where T-Mobile has no service at all.  

      Verizon to me has the best wireless data network in the US because they invest heavily in both sites and backhaul coupled with low frequency spectrum that penetrated buildings well.  

    • Hanna

      You make it sound like AT&T’s data service never works.  I use an AT&T branded 3G stick along with one from T-Mobile and Verizon.  

      AT&T’s data may slow down in certain areas but those are usually the areas where T-Mobile has no service at all.  

      Verizon to me has the best wireless data network in the US because they invest heavily in both sites and backhaul coupled with low frequency spectrum that penetrated buildings well.  

  • jon

    Anyone else notice the at&t trolls come in spirts..lol. All this ‘i get coverage with at&t and my friend/family doesn’t because they have tmobile’ is so obviously fake at&t drones trolling. Coverage is a regional/local experience. I can tell you at&t service blows in Iowa because when I visit family there, they all use iowa wireless or verizon. So, if you trolls really want to troll here, find another way to pump up at&t. Because the coverage argument is lame.
    Btw, coverage can be affected in ways that aren’t obvious to some. Like govt contracts for instance. My family was stationed in northern cali for years. The military base had a contract with at&t and no other carrier would work even miles off base…that’s not the fault of the other carriers…

    • Jenny Johnson

      What a hypocrite.  Here you are talking about local experience but you are able to give advice on coverage for the entire state of Iowa when you only visit there occasionally.  

      • jon

        Maybe I wasn’t clear. I was simply saying we could all get on here and offer local sh!tty coverage experiences from whatever carrier we don’t like. I was simply using an example..at&t certainly can’t cover every square inch of the country and trolls that come in here and try to slam tmobile for having spotty coverage in random locations is beyond rediculous. Furthermore, I find it suspect that these trolls seem to all roll in and post at once. Gee, I wonder if they are at&t employees…

        • GinaDee

          AT&T employees?  T-Mobile employees?  Sprint employees?  I honestly think you’ll have more T-Mobile employees in this forum.  

        • jon

          Yeah. You’re right. My wife is one of them. At least when we post we disclose that..I have posted several times about my wife’s 11 year voicestream/tmobile career. And last time I checked this is a site for news regarding T-Mobile. So, the trolls can leave…

        • ScaredSilly

          That’s a great way to have a discussion when it’s only one sided!  {sarcasm}

          When you have a whole bunch of uninformed paranoid people together it only promotes fear uncertainty and doubt.  Bad combination.  

        • ScaredSilly

          That’s a great way to have a discussion when it’s only one sided!  {sarcasm}

          When you have a whole bunch of uninformed paranoid people together it only promotes fear uncertainty and doubt.  Bad combination.  

        • ScaredSilly

          That’s a great way to have a discussion when it’s only one sided!  {sarcasm}

          When you have a whole bunch of uninformed paranoid people together it only promotes fear uncertainty and doubt.  Bad combination.  

        • jon

          Man, can noone in here read? Who said anything about a one sided discussion. If you don’t know what troll is, google it. As far as uninformed and paranoid, the tmobile employees are the ones most informed and accurately informed. I do agree some of them are paranoid. But hell, who can blame them when at&t is lookin to fire or turn them into union drones..

        • lolwut

          Im pretty sure you just got trolled pretty hard jon…

        • ScaredSilly

          That’s a great way to have a discussion when it’s only one sided!  {sarcasm}

          When you have a whole bunch of uninformed paranoid people together it only promotes fear uncertainty and doubt.  Bad combination.  

        • PhantomWraith

          True since all the AT&T employee’s are outsourced to India!

    • Jenny Johnson

      What a hypocrite.  Here you are talking about local experience but you are able to give advice on coverage for the entire state of Iowa when you only visit there occasionally.  

  • jon

    Anyone else notice the at&t trolls come in spirts..lol. All this ‘i get coverage with at&t and my friend/family doesn’t because they have tmobile’ is so obviously fake at&t drones trolling. Coverage is a regional/local experience. I can tell you at&t service blows in Iowa because when I visit family there, they all use iowa wireless or verizon. So, if you trolls really want to troll here, find another way to pump up at&t. Because the coverage argument is lame.
    Btw, coverage can be affected in ways that aren’t obvious to some. Like govt contracts for instance. My family was stationed in northern cali for years. The military base had a contract with at&t and no other carrier would work even miles off base…that’s not the fault of the other carriers…

  • Gabe

    I live in Irvine, CA.  ATT’s not perfect by any means but their coverage blows T-Mobile’s out of the water especially inside buildings and covered garage structures.  I used T-Mobile because my company provided me a phone from them up until this July.  I was always losing service or my phone was “searching for network,” which got really old really fast. And I’m not talking about out in the boonies; right here in town.  

    • Donna4U

      Same thing in San Juan Capistrano to your south  T-Mobile service is absolutely abysmal and has been since 2001.  We’re not even 1 mile away from one of the largest freeways around (5 FWY) and service is completely nonexistent.  Barely goes to EDGE when you get to the closest on-ramp.  Tried T-Mobile for 2 days and quickly returned the phones.  AT&T has built out our area very well so I’m not sure why T-Mobile can’t do the same?  If the buyout gets approved right away T-Mobile customers should benefit from getting service in areas they never had it before. 

      • some1

         T-mobile purchased that coverage from AT&T in 2005 (maybe 2004? i forget exactly).  Might explain somethings… just sayin

      • some1

         T-mobile purchased that coverage from AT&T in 2005 (maybe 2004? i forget exactly).  Might explain somethings… just sayin

      • some1

         T-mobile purchased that coverage from AT&T in 2005 (maybe 2004? i forget exactly).  Might explain somethings… just sayin

  • USGovt

    If AT&T agreed with the DOJ to sell all the crybabies over to Cricket or Metro PCS as a condition to the buyout how many of you guys would take the offer? 

    • LeShaun

      I probably would because att wanted a $750 deposit per line last time I tried and i’m afraid that when they buy us out i’ll get 4 $750 deposits put on my bill so i’m against the merger

      govement pleaze help us get away from att we can’t afford deposits bad economy

    • LeShaun

      I probably would because att wanted a $750 deposit per line last time I tried and i’m afraid that when they buy us out i’ll get 4 $750 deposits put on my bill so i’m against the merger

      govement pleaze help us get away from att we can’t afford deposits bad economy

    • LeShaun

      I probably would because att wanted a $750 deposit per line last time I tried and i’m afraid that when they buy us out i’ll get 4 $750 deposits put on my bill so i’m against the merger

      govement pleaze help us get away from att we can’t afford deposits bad economy

      • GinaDee

        LOL.  You’ll be okay.  Now I see why consumers are up in arms and its mostly because they are scared and have bad info.  

        You won’t have to pay a per deposit line when you become an AT&T customer.  Now if you add new lines down the road it might be a different story but not for the lines you already have active.  

        • LeShaun

          Sorry I not going to trust att they are liars and i’m sure they’ll bill me in the deposits I have family to feed and don’t need the stress this is causing me

        • Nearmsp

          “Now I see why consumers ….” And madam you are ..who?  If you are spokesperson for AT&T please declare that explicitly before dishing out advice on behalf of AT&T.

        • Cityman

          To all the people who are worry about getting charge for new phone from att. That won’t happen. I talk with sales people from att and tmobile,they told me what would than likely to happen is that.att. would come up with sim card for both phones. Also there in another choice,other than m/pcs/crict/etc. It is Simplemobile,H20 mobile.
          Iam sure there will be other companies like them sooner than later,where all you have to do is buy a unlock phone. Use there service. True you will have to pay to whatever price phonemaker wants,
          but it will be unlocked and unbanded,means no att/or tmobile softwear in it! Don’t forget a good place to get unlock phones,ebay!  This my 2cents.

    • LilMoney

      Hell no I’d be too embarrassed to say I was a Metro PCS customer.  It’s embarrassing enough to say I’m a T-Mobile customer as it is.  Metro PCS and Cricket are ghetto and their service is worse than ours.  

      • ItsMichaelNotMike

        I would agree with you, but only if we were in 2010.

        Prepaid is moving up and shedding its “ghetto” image. 

        Look at the numbers, all the big carriers are increasing their prepaid subscriber numbers, and the smaller independent prepaids are growing.

        I guess if you wanted to call prepaid ghetto, that term might be relegated to Net10 and TracFone, both who have only feature phones in their lineup.  But IMO that term is not even appropriate for them since they and other carriers are now catering to the elderly, millions of whom own their homes and don’t live in the ghetto.

        And now prepaid in the U.S. is far less ghetto than post-paid.  If one wants a nice prepaid smartphone he has to pay $300 to $400 for the phone. In contrast, post-paid customers get their panties in a bunch if the post-paid carrier wants more than $200 for a subsidized phone.

        So it’s actually more impressive that a prepaid customer comes up with $300 to $400 for a phone than your paying $200.

        Hats off to the carriers, however, making you feel special and accepted to pay $2000 to $2500 for a phone (handset + 2 year contract).

      • ItsMichaelNotMike

        I would agree with you, but only if we were in 2010.

        Prepaid is moving up and shedding its “ghetto” image. 

        Look at the numbers, all the big carriers are increasing their prepaid subscriber numbers, and the smaller independent prepaids are growing.

        I guess if you wanted to call prepaid ghetto, that term might be relegated to Net10 and TracFone, both who have only feature phones in their lineup.  But IMO that term is not even appropriate for them since they and other carriers are now catering to the elderly, millions of whom own their homes and don’t live in the ghetto.

        And now prepaid in the U.S. is far less ghetto than post-paid.  If one wants a nice prepaid smartphone he has to pay $300 to $400 for the phone. In contrast, post-paid customers get their panties in a bunch if the post-paid carrier wants more than $200 for a subsidized phone.

        So it’s actually more impressive that a prepaid customer comes up with $300 to $400 for a phone than your paying $200.

        Hats off to the carriers, however, making you feel special and accepted to pay $2000 to $2500 for a phone (handset + 2 year contract).

      • ItsMichaelNotMike

        I would agree with you, but only if we were in 2010.

        Prepaid is moving up and shedding its “ghetto” image. 

        Look at the numbers, all the big carriers are increasing their prepaid subscriber numbers, and the smaller independent prepaids are growing.

        I guess if you wanted to call prepaid ghetto, that term might be relegated to Net10 and TracFone, both who have only feature phones in their lineup.  But IMO that term is not even appropriate for them since they and other carriers are now catering to the elderly, millions of whom own their homes and don’t live in the ghetto.

        And now prepaid in the U.S. is far less ghetto than post-paid.  If one wants a nice prepaid smartphone he has to pay $300 to $400 for the phone. In contrast, post-paid customers get their panties in a bunch if the post-paid carrier wants more than $200 for a subsidized phone.

        So it’s actually more impressive that a prepaid customer comes up with $300 to $400 for a phone than your paying $200.

        Hats off to the carriers, however, making you feel special and accepted to pay $2000 to $2500 for a phone (handset + 2 year contract).

    • GinaDee

      Not me.  I’m hoping to keep my rate plan when AT&T takes over.  I firmly believe they will come to an agreement with the DOJ and avoid the courtroom.  If the DOJ and AT&T can make a deal then the FCC will play along and we’ll get all this drama over with soon enough and everyone can get on with their lives. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AWWIKW6MNPUHOC4OVSHWUDWAHM Fabio

        There’s not going to be any agreement… Unless AT&T can create a new GSM national wireless carrier, this deal is not possible.

  • Erivera989

    Innovation, didn’t the whole Android thing start because T-Mobile took a chance.  Didn’t the whole Nexus start because T-Mobile took a chance.  I had unlimited data back when the T-Mobile SDA was first released, listened to internet music from Atlanta, GA to Austin, TX non stop.  As I deployed to Iraq in 2006, I had coverage from Atlanta, to Germany, to Kuwait, to Iraq, thanks to GSM and T-Mobile’s international roaming.  No other carrier had these to offer at the time.  I have not had any trouble with any service, and with only one phone since Voicestream was bought out be T-Mobile, years ago.  Best customer service, and still top notch connections.  I understand business, I know DT wants to invest more on the European market, I get that.  But, sending Humm to improve sales, and less than a year later he’s making a deal to sell the US market, did they think us Americans would let it go without a fight.  I thought he was great in the European market, what happened here, lack of advertisement, lack of aggressive innovation for the US market, or just lack of caring.  T-Mobile used to have the top phones back in the days, now we are the last to see them on the shelf.  My 2¢.

    • Ginadee

      I agree with you but if innovation did T-Mobile no good because others took their products and made them successful while T-Mobile continues to be out-advertised and out-networked by the others all the while they continue to lose customers at a rapid clip.

      If innovation and competition are doing more damage than good than it may be good for either T-Mobile as a whole to go away or put a new owner with a new edgy management team to do the work.  

      • Kim Jong-il

        Innovation is a great thing, and it makes things much more competitive.. T mobile’s problem (IMHO) is that they had/have GREAT innovation, but to be a great company you NEED to take that innovation and make it grow. T mobile was (if I recall) the FIRST to have “my Faves” where did THAT go? T mobile was the FIRST to have an Android based phone, look where THAT got them? If you cannot build on that innovation then you have nothing as can be seen….Your Best Bud,

        Kim Jong-il

        • jon

          My faves was phased out because of the even more and even more plus rate plans. As far as android, they did have the first android handset. Unfortunately, the g1 wasn’t up for prime time marketing. I owned the phone about a month before its intial release. There were several problems with it. One was bluetooth did not function period. The market was also very weak. I could remember a time when only 15 or 20 apps even existed in the market. I totally agree that their marketing stategy was dumb. T-Mobile was content watching verizon and at&t “cat fight” in ads. T-Mobile thought that playing the “nice” guy that just wants to help everyone ‘stick together’ and help customers ‘get more’ with cheap rates was a winning stategy. Well, it wasn’t. That’s why you saw them finally get aggressive with carly knockin the at&t network. I think they can turn it around, dt just needs to commit or find a buyer that will invest in good marketing. But first at&t needs to be stopped from hijacking tmobile and taking it to their chop-shop where they plan to strip it for parts.

      • Kim Jong-il

        Innovation is a great thing, and it makes things much more competitive.. T mobile’s problem (IMHO) is that they had/have GREAT innovation, but to be a great company you NEED to take that innovation and make it grow. T mobile was (if I recall) the FIRST to have “my Faves” where did THAT go? T mobile was the FIRST to have an Android based phone, look where THAT got them? If you cannot build on that innovation then you have nothing as can be seen….Your Best Bud,

        Kim Jong-il

  • Ladyluck

    I hate AT&t I cancelled my home phone with them and they still owe me $23.99 in credits.  I oppose the merger because of this.  

  • MIKEEEEE

    i just read the article from further back in my chair and it hit me, the att quoted text is typical right wing inspired corporatespeak.

    the syntax and word choice are the same words and pattterns bosses use when they’re lying to you.

    ‘bosses are like diapers,always on your ess and always full of shot’.

    if this jargon and logic prevails the DOJ challenge we’re screwed.

    only 1 GSM carrier is anticompetitive.

    if they reach a settlement let’s hope that the tiny companies like iwireless and cincinnati bell will survive and get complete and total roaming rights on the atthole network.

  • Gerald

    this lawsuit complaint is spoken like a true leftwing nut. sounds just like Obama trying to get a third stimulus passed. ignoring the facts and talking out of their arses.

    I’m surprised that they can’t get the deal done, especially when they have unions that line the pockets of lawmakers.

    but is this just a dog and pony show before the deal actually does get done?

    only time will tell.

  • Cameron W3st

    The thing almost everyone is forgetting about is the LARGE number of people who have been with Tmobile for a LONG time and have some amazing grandfathered plans…I’ve been with Tmobile since 2004 and right now my bill, with tax comes to $105/month for unlimited anytime minutes, unlimited texts, TRULY unlimited data AND tethering WITH 4G (i’m not throttled or capped because I’ve been there so long) and handset protection replacement…I’ve compared this exact same plan to AT&T several times…and it would cost me about $155/month there ($70 for unlimited minutes, $20 for messaging, $5 for protection replacement and $45 for 4G-4GB (not unlimited) and tethering + taxes…maybe that $50 extra doesn’t hurt YOU…but to a ton of working class/middle class people, $50 month is a HUGE difference

  • Cameron W3st

    The thing almost everyone is forgetting about is the LARGE number of people who have been with Tmobile for a LONG time and have some amazing grandfathered plans…I’ve been with Tmobile since 2004 and right now my bill, with tax comes to $105/month for unlimited anytime minutes, unlimited texts, TRULY unlimited data AND tethering WITH 4G (i’m not throttled or capped because I’ve been there so long) and handset protection replacement…I’ve compared this exact same plan to AT&T several times…and it would cost me about $155/month there ($70 for unlimited minutes, $20 for messaging, $5 for protection replacement and $45 for 4G-4GB (not unlimited) and tethering + taxes…maybe that $50 extra doesn’t hurt YOU…but to a ton of working class/middle class people, $50 month is a HUGE difference

    • Nick

      Exactly, I’ve been saying the same thing all along too.  If I knew that I’d be able to keep my plan with AT&T as long as I wanted to, even after buying an AT&T banded phone, I wouldn’t be nearly as concerned about the buyout from a personal standpoint.

      Also, though, looking at how much TMO is than other carriers, it makes me wonder what they’re doing wrong to not attact customers who are paying much more than they could be paying.  It can’t all be the iphone.

    • Nick

      Exactly, I’ve been saying the same thing all along too.  If I knew that I’d be able to keep my plan with AT&T as long as I wanted to, even after buying an AT&T banded phone, I wouldn’t be nearly as concerned about the buyout from a personal standpoint.

      Also, though, looking at how much TMO is than other carriers, it makes me wonder what they’re doing wrong to not attact customers who are paying much more than they could be paying.  It can’t all be the iphone.

    • Nick

      Exactly, I’ve been saying the same thing all along too.  If I knew that I’d be able to keep my plan with AT&T as long as I wanted to, even after buying an AT&T banded phone, I wouldn’t be nearly as concerned about the buyout from a personal standpoint.

      Also, though, looking at how much TMO is than other carriers, it makes me wonder what they’re doing wrong to not attact customers who are paying much more than they could be paying.  It can’t all be the iphone.

      • http://twitter.com/MattSTKC MattSTKC

        AT&T’s postpaid options are on par (within $10 a month) of T-Mo. plus rollover minutes are better.

        • Calling out the Shills

          How much is AT&T paying you?

        • Calling out the Shills

          How much is AT&T paying you?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AWWIKW6MNPUHOC4OVSHWUDWAHM Fabio

        Poor indoor coverage in cities. T-Mobile can’t guarantee service indoors, and people want service in their apartments. T-Mobile please build more towers in NYC.

  • Anonymous

    That’s the greater one by At & t because survival is for Fittest man
     http://www.iphoneleaks.net/

  • Nick

    I just hope to have answers on the 21st so I’ll know if it’s worth it to invest my hard earned money in new phones on the 24th.

  • StupidWelfareCrackAddict

    I’m against the merger because I owed AT&T $12 from back in 2003 and they sent me to collections. I paid them on the 1st after I got my check and they still sent me to collections. 

    Say no to the merger because AT&T will send you to collections if you don’t. 

    • GinaDee

      Your post has to be a joke!  Haha.  

      Some of you guys have some weak arguments supporting killing the at&t buyout.

    • GinaDee

      Your post has to be a joke!  Haha.  

      Some of you guys have some weak arguments supporting killing the at&t buyout.

      • STEPHANIE29

        Nah GinaDee…I believe that actually happened.  At&t is notorious for some BS like that.  Smh.

        • http://twitter.com/MattSTKC MattSTKC

          don’t pay up, get sent to collections. That’s life. Pay your goddamn bills.

        • Calling out the Shills

          How much is AT&T paying you?

  • Bad4Blacks

    This whole AT&T buying T-Mobile is bad for blacks.  Just say no!

    • Silk7412

      This whole ATT buying T-Mobile is BAD for everyone!!  Black, White,Martian. How about this. It’s bad for our country. It’s bad for all people. Heck- its bad for your dog!!!

      • BitchesandHoes

        I’m black but I support the AT&T merger fools!  There are cheap azz niggas and cheap ass trailer trash white folk all bitchin bout the merger.  Peeps of all races are cheap motha fuckas. 

        • Silk7412

          Please let me know what school not to send my kids to (yours)
          You can move now! But as you put it “Cheep dog but can’t aford stuff” peace out

        • Silk7412

          Also ladies and gentleman, I’m sorry to say that crack baby’s do grow up.

        • STEPHANIE29

          Ummm…???  I am Black and totally embarrassed by this comment…smh.  Anywho, I do not support this merger.  If I wanted At&t service I would be with At&t.  T-Mobile is the only carrier that provides 4g service in my area.  The customer service is great, I like my phone, never had any billing issues…I love T-Mobile!  

        • ItsMichaelNotMike

          Thank you for this post.

          I am writing three books.  One book is on tech for my profession.  And a chapter is on creating and maintaining a website.

          A tip I include is that the reader should never have a blog or forum where strangers can post comments.  The reasons I advise such include:

          –  People would be posting all kinds of offensive and objectionable crap.

          – Offensive and rude posts often slip by filters.

          – On the not-for-profit website the professional has work to do, not police the forum, which is what one must do if allowing public comment.

          Anyway, I needed a real life example for the chapter, as foundation for what I was saying. So again, thank you. Screen capture made.  ;)

          Sidenote:  I can PayPal payment for your contribution.  Do I make the “check” out to “BitchesAndHoes”?

          Bonus Comment: With the exception of the first sentence I generally agree with your thoughts, in particular the last sentence (cheapness crosses racial lines). You obviously have a creative mind, but you need to work on syntax and word choice.  Don’t waste your talent.

        • Anonymous

          This made me laugh. Thanks for brightening up my day! :)

      • BitchesandHoes

        I’m black but I support the AT&T merger fools!  There are cheap azz niggas and cheap ass trailer trash white folk all bitchin bout the merger.  Peeps of all races are cheap motha fuckas. 

      • ItsMichaelNotMike

        My two dogs agree with you.  More money paid to wireless = less treats for them.

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      There is an element of truth to what you say; getting rid of the value pricing carrier has a negative affect on those struggling and living payday to payday, a lot of those people being black and Hispanics.

      But as a recent study has shown, 75% of the middle class is now living payday to payday. Since everyone is struggling AT&T buying T-Mobile is bad for all consumers, not just blacks.

      Would be an interesting claim, that AT&T taking out the consumers’ value-conscious carrier violates federal and the various state’s laws prohibiting businesses from, inter alia, discriminating on the basis of race. (E.g., you could argue AT&T’s actions violate California’s Unruh Act: http://www.dfeh.ca.gov/res/docs/publications/DFEH-250.pdf )

      You would not even have to show AT&T’s discriminatory actions are intentional, only that eliminating the “consumers’ carrier” has a discriminatory affect on minorities.

      AT&T should look for a black plaintiff to sue AT&T and DT on this basis.  It would be the easiest way to confuse the issues, get the public on its side, and probably result in all the cases being dismissed, including the Clayton Act claims. In other words, inserting race into this battle is not a wise move.

  • Blablabla

    merging is bad idea,bad for the middle man,it means monopoly!

  • LeShauna

    Please say no to this merger cuz my phone is not going to work anymore and i’ll probably get a termination fee from att.  I can’t afford it.  they don’t want us to be scared but I need my phone and i don’t want att to make it not work anymore

    • Tmariett

      you arent going to get an early termination fee all youlll have to do is buy a new phone and if you dont want to be with att tmobile is going to give you the chance to get out for free so just pay attention

    • http://twitter.com/MattSTKC MattSTKC

      that’s probably the most ignorant thing I’ve seen on here. 1- legally, if the merger goes through and your phone doesn’t work, that’s grounds to void your contract w/o fee. 2- AT&T is probably going to give people free phones with new 2 year contracts comparable to what they had. 3- they’d be stupid if they didn’t offer epic discounts on the newest phones when the merger went through. AT&T is working their ass off to promote the merger, they won’t screw the customer in the end cause they’re afraid of the FTC

      • attdealer

        You are the ignorant one.  Once any plan or phone changes take place, the rates will surely go up.  Don’t believe it, look at every other merger AT&T has done.  If they give you a new FREE phone but your rates increase, is that okay?  AT&T is bloated conglomerate who does not care about their customers nor their dealers.  I know because I am an AT&T dealer. 

        • http://twitter.com/MattSTKC MattSTKC

          AT&T’s rates are higher than T-Mo’s depending on plan, but minute to minute and MB to MB w/o throttling (T-Mo’s new favorite toy) they’re within $20 a month.
          Of course AT&T is in it for the money, it’s business, but they’re going to have to do a lot of placating to keep from getting broken up AGAIN. Remember AT&T (originally Ma’ Bell) has been broken up by the government twice because they monopolized the market. If this goes through they’re going to be walking on eggshells and have to be uncharactaristically good to customers to keep it from happening again.

        • Brianb

          Actually, my plan for unlimited data, voice, and texting is $45 more dollars per month with AT&T (I have t-mobile now).  I price it out thinking I wanted the Iphone.  I couldn’t swallow the $45 price jump.  AT&T coverage is NOT that much better than T-mobile.  I had Cingular and it was pretty much the same.

          Also, AT&T jumped ALL prices up about a year after the Iphone came out.  Their own reps would admit it.  They could charge whatever they wanted because THEY had the Iphone.

        • Brianb

          Actually, my plan for unlimited data, voice, and texting is $45 more dollars per month with AT&T (I have t-mobile now).  I price it out thinking I wanted the Iphone.  I couldn’t swallow the $45 price jump.  AT&T coverage is NOT that much better than T-mobile.  I had Cingular and it was pretty much the same.

          Also, AT&T jumped ALL prices up about a year after the Iphone came out.  Their own reps would admit it.  They could charge whatever they wanted because THEY had the Iphone.

        • Calling out the Shills

          How much is AT&T paying you?

        • Calling out the Shills

          How much is AT&T paying you?

      • Calling out the Shills

        How much is AT&T paying you?

  • UnSined

    The claim that by not merging that AT&T customers will continue to have problems with their service. What about the problems that T-Mobile customers will have if the merger does happen?

  • http://twitter.com/MattSTKC MattSTKC

    T-Mobile is still too focused on contract/post-paid customers. MetroPCS, Cricket, Virgin Mobile, and other prepaids are stealing their bread and butter while T-Mo puts on the front of being the cool company with the best phones but all their smartphones save for the HTC Sensation are sub par and/or loaded down with bloatware.

    • Calling out the Shills

      How much is AT&T paying you

  • Djtmanbi

    they are stupid they basically said yeah we need T-mobile because they would make us faster and have better quality because we suck and need a good network 

  • Djtmanbi

    they are stupid they basically said yeah we need T-mobile because they would make us faster and have better quality because we suck and need a good network 

  • Chewy106

    T-Mobile has only really lost subscribers because of this ridiculous merger. The other “upstarts” (except US Cellular) are not national carriers, so they do not influence major competition. None of them are GSM-based carriers either. And what about the harm of increased cost for consumers like me once you get your greedy paws on T-Mobile? Isn’t paying $45 more/month for less quality on an AT&T network the same “harm” you’re claiming will be caused if no merger is approved? If your customers will get hosed without buying out another carrier, perhaps you shouldn’t have signed them up touting the iPhone knowing your network sucks ass? It’s your issue, deal with it.

    I really want some of what AT&T is smoking with these rebuttals.

    • Spooln3

      Wrong. You are wrong. TMo has lost customers consistantly for the last 3 years. Its even been reported on this very site, quarter by quarter the churn that has been experienced. If DT really felt that TMo was gaining ground and posted a solid threat at taking over the 3rd spot, no way would they be selling this off. The facts are, they are losing money because TMo is unable to maintain a solid post paid customer base. Facts are facts and the reporting on this site is comical. Such bias. Take away the emotion and all you have is the truth and facts. In order for any revenant of Tmo to survive, this deal must go through, any hope of that dies with this deal falling through. IMO.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AWWIKW6MNPUHOC4OVSHWUDWAHM Fabio

        Wrong wrong wrong! You’re wrong! T-Mobile can still survive without this AT&T deal. Once all handset exclusivity is over with, and AT&T and Verizon really compete for their customers without LOCKING down popular phones, then you’ll see T-Mobile grow money like leaves on trees.

  • Silk7412

    People are worried about there plans if att takes over and they should be. Quote from tmobile fornum about buyout.
    Will my rate plan change because of the acquisition?
    A: All customer contracts entered into before the change of ownership will be honored [for their applicable period].
     Do you understand “for their applicable period” is?

  • Silk7412

    One more thing about tmobile cell phone becoming obsolete after the buyout.
     
    Q:  Will I have to upgrade my T-Mobile 3G/4G device after the acquisition closes?
    A: T-Mobile has no plans to alter our 3G / 4G network in any way that would make your device obsolete. The deal is expected to close in approximately 12 months.  After that, decisions about the network will be AT&T’s to make. That said, the president and CEO of AT&T Mobility was quoted in the Associated Press saying “there’s nothing for [customers] to worry about… [network changes affecting devices] will be done over time… ”
     
    So after one year of the deal being done. It will be up to ATT on what happens next? Any one feeling good about signing a new 2 year contract. come on- you can trust ATT to do you right.

  • Silk7412

    One more thing about tmobile cell phone becoming obsolete after the buyout.
     
    Q:  Will I have to upgrade my T-Mobile 3G/4G device after the acquisition closes?
    A: T-Mobile has no plans to alter our 3G / 4G network in any way that would make your device obsolete. The deal is expected to close in approximately 12 months.  After that, decisions about the network will be AT&T’s to make. That said, the president and CEO of AT&T Mobility was quoted in the Associated Press saying “there’s nothing for [customers] to worry about… [network changes affecting devices] will be done over time… ”
     
    So after one year of the deal being done. It will be up to ATT on what happens next? Any one feeling good about signing a new 2 year contract. come on- you can trust ATT to do you right.

  • Plspyt7

    I just called T-Mobile and it is very clear that AT&T has begun to take over.  I received a robot who could not comprehend my question.  This is classic AT&T which is one reason why I switched almost 10yrs ago. Another reason, my bill never reflected my last name but my street name!  After years of requesting this be changed it NEVER happened. I don’t know that I will ever get the great service that I have with T-Mobile.  I will search for a new provider before I go through the frustration; it’s just not worth it. 

  • Plspyt

    By the way….Thanks “ma bell” you always seem to find a way to get the monoply.  Since AT&T could never get my last name correct and created an alias for me; how about I not pay you and you reimburse me for the years behind the insulting customer service!