T-Mobile Hopes To Encourage Even More Plus Customers To Switch To Value Plans

Beginning September 1st T-Mobile is going to begin suggesting to Even More Plus customers to make a move onto the Value Plans. With the hope of providing the Value Plan benefits as an enticement our attention is directed toward the area we have highlighted in red that indicates Value Plan customers will be able to keep their rate plans when an AT&T deal completes. Are we to understand that Even More Plus customers would not be allowed to keep their current rate plan selections should an AT&T deal complete? Would Even More Plus customers be “forced” into changing their plan to a currently offered AT&T option?

It’s an interesting “benefit” for T-Mobile to provide as a way of enticing customers over and we hope that we are reading this improperly and that EM+ customers would be allowed to keep their rate plans post-AT&T deal. Of course that is what we hope except that doesn’t seem to be the case according to this screenshot. What do you think Even More Plus customers, are the Value Plans enticing? Would you pick one up in order to lock one in prior to an AT&T deal completion?

 

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  • Shawnperry13

    They don’t have a value plan that matches my even more plus. I still have home at home service which is no longer available. And 2 gig data before throttling isn’t going to cut it. I’ll sign if I can keep what I have or make it better.

    • LC

      I’ve switched a couple of customers over and was able to keep the at home service. It can be done :)

      • http://twitter.com/KARMA773 Karma

        LC, I WANT THE  VALUE PLAN ,  BEEN CUSTOMER FOR 9 YRS, IC ANT PAY  THE $1000 FEE FOR 5 LINES TO CHANGE. WILL U DO?

        • LC

          No, and it’s just not going to happen, so I’m not sure why you can’t accept that and move on. Wait until you’re further along into your contract or bite the bullet and pay the migration fees. There aren’t any ways around it. For some people the savings are significant enough that they can recoup the fees within a reasonable amount of time, but given that you clearly just resigned all five of your lines then I would wait for a bit before doing that. But you really just need to accept that the migration fees are legitimate charges and there isn’t a way to get around them. I’m sure you’re still getting a great deal on your current plan compared to Sprint, Verizon, and AT&T. So you’re still getting a good deal regardless.

        • LC

          No, and it’s just not going to happen, so I’m not sure why you can’t accept that and move on. Wait until you’re further along into your contract or bite the bullet and pay the migration fees. There aren’t any ways around it. For some people the savings are significant enough that they can recoup the fees within a reasonable amount of time, but given that you clearly just resigned all five of your lines then I would wait for a bit before doing that. But you really just need to accept that the migration fees are legitimate charges and there isn’t a way to get around them. I’m sure you’re still getting a great deal on your current plan compared to Sprint, Verizon, and AT&T. So you’re still getting a good deal regardless.

        • LC

          No, and it’s just not going to happen, so I’m not sure why you can’t accept that and move on. Wait until you’re further along into your contract or bite the bullet and pay the migration fees. There aren’t any ways around it. For some people the savings are significant enough that they can recoup the fees within a reasonable amount of time, but given that you clearly just resigned all five of your lines then I would wait for a bit before doing that. But you really just need to accept that the migration fees are legitimate charges and there isn’t a way to get around them. I’m sure you’re still getting a great deal on your current plan compared to Sprint, Verizon, and AT&T. So you’re still getting a good deal regardless.

  • Shawnperry13

    They don’t have a value plan that matches my even more plus. I still have home at home service which is no longer available. And 2 gig data before throttling isn’t going to cut it. I’ll sign if I can keep what I have or make it better.

  • DahL

    I have $59.99 unlimited everything, no contract EM+. 
    I would be stupid if I chain myself to a contract.

    • Jaygqitalia

      As do I. But wed also be stupid to lose this plan for 2 years when the buyout goes through

  • Phillip Schroder

    I dumped ATT like a bad habbit and snatched up 4 value lines for my family. 2 @ unl and 2 @ 500 mins with everyone getting 2gb of 4g data and unl texts. Ridiculously cheap IMO. 

  • Phillip Schroder

    I dumped ATT like a bad habbit and snatched up 4 value lines for my family. 2 @ unl and 2 @ 500 mins with everyone getting 2gb of 4g data and unl texts. Ridiculously cheap IMO. 

  • Bill Patterson

    I made the switch this week because I needed to up the data plan on one phone and figured might as well lock in now.  Went from 1500 min, 4 phones, two with 2gb at $129 to $125 with unlimited minutes on two w/ 5gb and 2gb, and then the two additional lines with 500 minutes each, no data.

  • Anonymous

    No way I’m signing a contract. I went to T-Mobile in December of 2009 specifically for EM+. I plan to stay contract free as long as I own a cell phone. If the ATT buyout happens and I’m forced to pay their ludicrous rates, I’ll simply dump T-Mobile for prepaid (the only non-contract game left). Probably Virgin.

    I have no problem paying for my smartphone handsets like the rest of the country seems to.

  • Anonymous

    No way I’m signing a contract. I went to T-Mobile in December of 2009 specifically for EM+. I plan to stay contract free as long as I own a cell phone. If the ATT buyout happens and I’m forced to pay their ludicrous rates, I’ll simply dump T-Mobile for prepaid (the only non-contract game left). Probably Virgin.

    I have no problem paying for my smartphone handsets like the rest of the country seems to.

    • Diamond_Prince

      Well if you get a contract you wont pay more if at&t wins the buyout but if you dont get the contract you will only have the pre pay for a few months or a yeah cuz there getting rid of it as soon as they can..

      • Anonymous

        I wouldn’t be getting prepaid with AT&T if they win the buyout. Incidentally, not with Verizon either (the only carrier I’ve seen with prepaid rates *higher* than their subsidized-phone contract rates).

  • firebird

    AT&T has been coy about whether people who are not on contract will have to change their plan. In the official FAQ provided by the company, the question says “Will I have to change my rate plan?” And the answer says, “AT&T will honor all contacts entered into before the merger is complete.” We are not entirely sure what that means.

  • timmyjoe42

    I bet they are doing this only to lock people in before the new iPhone comes out. I am not getting rid of my EM+ plan until they make me. At that point I will look into new providers like Cincinnati Bell, MetroPCS, or Simple Mobile.

  • timmyjoe42

    I bet they are doing this only to lock people in before the new iPhone comes out. I am not getting rid of my EM+ plan until they make me. At that point I will look into new providers like Cincinnati Bell, MetroPCS, or Simple Mobile.

  • timmyjoe42

    I bet they are doing this only to lock people in before the new iPhone comes out. I am not getting rid of my EM+ plan until they make me. At that point I will look into new providers like Cincinnati Bell, MetroPCS, or Simple Mobile.

  • timmyjoe42

    I bet they are doing this only to lock people in before the new iPhone comes out. I am not getting rid of my EM+ plan until they make me. At that point I will look into new providers like Cincinnati Bell, MetroPCS, or Simple Mobile.

  • http://www.mamasheartblog.com Sue

    I’ve researched this and spent time talking to a CSMgr – if you migrate to a Value plan, you will be charged a “migration fee” of up to $200 per line (similar to a ETF), as it was explained to me, in order to “compensate for the discount on the phone you just got from us.”  Nevermind that my phone is 18 months old… :P

    Additionally, those who do migrate to the Value Plan might be able to keep their rates if/when the AT&T takeover goes through, but they lose any benefit of purchasing phones at pro-rated prices.  There are NO discounts on phones with the Value Plan and the Equipment Installment Plan is also being phased out (in to 21 monthly payments), as there will also be no more discounts on phones for the other current calling plans.  :P

    Just so’s ya know.  :

    • LC

      This is old news but yes, that’s all true.

      But again, the further along in your contract you are, the smaller the migration fee becomes, and obviously at a certain point there isn’t one.

    • Jason

      The migration fee is only charged if you’re under contract. So if you’re on even more plus, you don’t have a contract. Therefore, no migration fee.

    • Jason

      The migration fee is only charged if you’re under contract. So if you’re on even more plus, you don’t have a contract. Therefore, no migration fee.

      • Diamond_Prince

        Jason is correct!! There isnt a migration fee..

    • Uglypete

      There are no migration fees at 18 months for anyone

  • jrr

    I, too, am a t-mo customer specifically because they offered no-contract at the time. Good luck converting me!

    The best you’ll get is a verbal agreement: as long as you offer the best value, I’ll remain a customer.

  • Nick S Casper

    No way.  EM+ until the merger.  Then good-bye.  And don’t tell me for a minute that Sprint or Verizon won’t offer some great deals as the merger nears to get me to switch over. . . and I will. 

    • King00660

      Nick S Casper don’t you mean Verizon or Verizon.. Yes soon no more Sprint.. 

    • Anonymous

      Sprint, possibly. Verizon offering any deals, no chance. The only “deal” Verizon will offer you is the chance to get on America’s best network (according to the most recent JD Power)

  • Nick S Casper

    No way.  EM+ until the merger.  Then good-bye.  And don’t tell me for a minute that Sprint or Verizon won’t offer some great deals as the merger nears to get me to switch over. . . and I will. 

  • Ernre

    They are charging $150 per line in Migration Fees 

    • Diamond_Prince

      Thats only if your a classic plan going to value plan..

    • Diamond_Prince

      Thats only if your a classic plan going to value plan..

  • Bob

    Now wait a minute — I remember having to pay to “upgrade” to the EM+ plan. Are they going to pay me to switch to a plan having a contract again? Also, unless Tmo can fix their coverage issues due to the tower transitions, when the sign turns blue I am going red……..

  • Seresquerra

    Yeah, got a text today telling me to call 611 and change my EM+ to a value plan and get 1200 min bonus, whatever that means. Im happy the way it is, lets see how long I can keep it going…

  • DH

    heeeeeeell no!!! i’m going to keep my even more + plan for as long as i can, & if the merger eventually goes through, i’ll change to sprint or verizon b/c i hate at&t.

  • http://twitter.com/droid1967 Droid 1967

    for those that keep saying there is no migration fee. look right under the values plan benefits, the last one right under the poorly placed tmonews logo(we know where we are can you at least put logos not over the darn pictures texts. )  
    anyways im sure they put that migration fees for em+ customers because there isnt one.

    • Anonymous

      There are only migration fees for customers who are currently on a contract, that gave them a discounted phone within the last 18 months. Most Even More Plus customers have no migration fees because they never got discounted handsets.

  • http://twitter.com/droid1967 Droid 1967

    for those that keep saying there is no migration fee. look right under the values plan benefits, the last one right under the poorly placed tmonews logo(we know where we are can you at least put logos not over the darn pictures texts. )  
    anyways im sure they put that migration fees for em+ customers because there isnt one.

  • Richardthegrape

    I have my own plan if this deal goes through. I am ditching At&T-Mobile, NOT signing up with any of the other carriers, and I am getting a Wifi Hotspot off of my current internet provider(Comcast) and using it with Google Voice with Groove ip on my Nexus S. Unlimited minutes, unlimited texts, unlimited data, and ONLY $40 a month to use the Wifi Hotspot through Comcast.

    Only downsides: paying $120 for the device, carrying that extra device around, paying full price if I need a new phone, and no mms(but that’s what email is for).

    Still working out the kinks in this plan of mine, but it is looking like the better option currently, and I hope it works out as well as I am thinking ha-ha.

    • None

      Isn’t t comcast using slow clearwire connection … ?? Like 2-3mbps ? 4G available but for extra $$$.
      I’ve thou about ur solution since pcmcia cards came out for computers and a router from kyocera came out making hotspots available .. that was 2008 now days 2011 I’ve still not reaally into relliying into hotspots for a cellphone. Why? There’s not internet availability everywhere.. peak hours are always bad for using hotspots.. n theres not such thing as unlimited data anymore

      • Richardthegrape

        Yeah, they do. I completely spaced that Comcast does when I posted this. And last I read Comcast has a 250 gb cap, more then I need on a phone or my laptop haha. 

        I’ve been using Google voice and Groove ip for a little over month now with only wifi(phone is currently disconnected), and it seems to work pretty smoothly. Tried it once on my sisters mt4g wifi hotspot, was able to get texts/emails/data easy, but calls sucked. Only got one to go through. Ha

    • Anonymous

      So you’re going to be relying on Clearwire, the worst 4G network for both speeds and coverage in America, to provide you a reliable cell phone service…good luck with that endeavor.

    • Anonymous

      So you’re going to be relying on Clearwire, the worst 4G network for both speeds and coverage in America, to provide you a reliable cell phone service…good luck with that endeavor.

      • Richardthegrape

        Haha yeah, I forgot to put that in the downsides. I use to work for Clear back in the day when it was known as Clearwire, it sucked back then too. Was a customer service/technical support rep. They pretty much train you to be terrible at your job. 

        But I figure since my nexus s only get 1-3 mbps download with Tmobiles 3g it won’t be that big of a speed change ha. And the coverage is decent in Utah.

    • Moe

      This would probably be a mistake. I understand that a lot of these hot spots were not designed to handle VoIP. A friend has a Clear product and says it is slow and always loses a connection. Think long and hard befor plunking down the cash.

      • Richardthegrape

        Yeah definitely! Like i said, still working out the kinks though. I’m only doing this if the “merger” goes through, if that happens, hopefully there will be better options. Or better equipment by then. Haha

  • SIMplySIMple

    EM+P customer here but thinking of ditching T-Mobile and going the SIMple route.

  • SIMplySIMple

    EM+P customer here but thinking of ditching T-Mobile and going the SIMple route.

  • adds cls

    well seems like im just gonna stick around till they cut down my service and then go to the prepaid people… Metro pcs, Boost Mobile or Virgin, the only thing that i hate about them its …. they not only have crappy service,slow internet but they also have like last year phones and name them as “the latest in technology”

    I think AT&T be like really stupid to not have a prepaid service (not talking about the buying cards one but the even more plan), i mean seriously how many people is in this EM+ plans? And why are they on it?? they mostly like myself are on it because we cant get a contract going because, we either have a crappy credit or some background crap we hauling, BUT YET WE PAY FORWARD for our service that my friends its called EASY money for this cell phones companies, cuz not they only sell u a phone phone for 3times ur contract people price but yet u get paid before i even use ur service!!! 

    Seriously AT & Tmobile uknow that money u get from prepaid its good easy money.

    • 21stNow

      Even More Plus is a post-paid plan that requires a credit check.

      • HTC Pyramid

        em+ is not postpaid. i was on contract and didn’t renew so i could save money. i didn’t mind buying my phones outright.

        • http://twitter.com/#!/ImpyChick pantlesspenguin

          I always thought “postpaid” just refered to paying your bill at the END of a cycle.  Like, I use the service throughout the month of August and then at the end of August I pay my bill for the services I used for that month.  This is as opposed to PREPAID, where you pay up front for the services, use the services that you’ve already paid for, pay to renew those services, etc.  Am I mistaken?  If I’m not, then Even More Plus is indeed a POSTPAID plan.

        • Anonymous

          There were both Flexpay and Postpaid Even More Plus plans for the record.

        • 21stNow

          My current bill is due on 9/13/11.  This bill covers a period from 7/17/11-8/16/11.  I am Even More Plus.  Please explain to me how this is not post-paid. 

    • 21stNow

      Even More Plus is a post-paid plan that requires a credit check.

  • Aron T

    I am on the FT even more unlimited plan, with one 5gb unlimited 4g plan, one 5gb unlimited smart phone web, add a line, with phone 1st web, pref unlimited msg for families, and two insured phones. I pay $230.00 a month. I really don’t care if this goes up, at the end of the day it wont be a big deal for me anyways. I don’t like the new plans because me and my wife are big time data users, Netflix, Pandora, YouTube, work files & e-mails, remote VPN so hitting that 2gb wall would end up being a bad thing for us, I have even hit my 5gb wall three times already and come close to hitting it every month. I really think that T-mobile is trying to get everyone on a 2gb cap to relieve some network strain/traffic to get a handle on network issues. I have been with T-mobile since the Voicestream days (1999), in fact i still have my old Voicestream sim card that i was using up till about 2 years ago. People that are scared of the uncertain should pull out now and get on cheaper carrier like Virgin, metro pcs, boost mobile ect, keep in mind that everything goes up in price all the time and this is just something that we all need to be prepared to deal with. 

    • Anonymous

      you do know that you can choose the 5gb right? Tmobile currently offers 200MB, 2GB, 5GB and 10GB…This goes for value as well. They promote the plan with 2GB the most, because MOST people don’t pass 2GB’s…

      • Aron T

        True, but the combo i am on cant be beat right now, I have called t-mobile a month ago and they told me that where I am at is the best price that they have without going to a crappy value plan. 

  • Aron T

    I am on the FT even more unlimited plan, with one 5gb unlimited 4g plan, one 5gb unlimited smart phone web, add a line, with phone 1st web, pref unlimited msg for families, and two insured phones. I pay $230.00 a month. I really don’t care if this goes up, at the end of the day it wont be a big deal for me anyways. I don’t like the new plans because me and my wife are big time data users, Netflix, Pandora, YouTube, work files & e-mails, remote VPN so hitting that 2gb wall would end up being a bad thing for us, I have even hit my 5gb wall three times already and come close to hitting it every month. I really think that T-mobile is trying to get everyone on a 2gb cap to relieve some network strain/traffic to get a handle on network issues. I have been with T-mobile since the Voicestream days (1999), in fact i still have my old Voicestream sim card that i was using up till about 2 years ago. People that are scared of the uncertain should pull out now and get on cheaper carrier like Virgin, metro pcs, boost mobile ect, keep in mind that everything goes up in price all the time and this is just something that we all need to be prepared to deal with. 

  • Aron T

    I am on the FT even more unlimited plan, with one 5gb unlimited 4g plan, one 5gb unlimited smart phone web, add a line, with phone 1st web, pref unlimited msg for families, and two insured phones. I pay $230.00 a month. I really don’t care if this goes up, at the end of the day it wont be a big deal for me anyways. I don’t like the new plans because me and my wife are big time data users, Netflix, Pandora, YouTube, work files & e-mails, remote VPN so hitting that 2gb wall would end up being a bad thing for us, I have even hit my 5gb wall three times already and come close to hitting it every month. I really think that T-mobile is trying to get everyone on a 2gb cap to relieve some network strain/traffic to get a handle on network issues. I have been with T-mobile since the Voicestream days (1999), in fact i still have my old Voicestream sim card that i was using up till about 2 years ago. People that are scared of the uncertain should pull out now and get on cheaper carrier like Virgin, metro pcs, boost mobile ect, keep in mind that everything goes up in price all the time and this is just something that we all need to be prepared to deal with. 

  • Moe

    I feel like I’m wearing a bulls eye – TMO calls, sends text messages saying that that my flex pay service is expiring. They are fairly firm in saying that the plan will be ending soon. They need to sweeten the offer to make me want to make the move from a no contract service to the ball and chain contract service. No new phones, no savings, no nothing. Come on TMO wake up you have to make it worth while to existing flex play customers to make the change or they are going to move to another provider.

  • Moe

    I feel like I’m wearing a bulls eye – TMO calls, sends text messages saying that that my flex pay service is expiring. They are fairly firm in saying that the plan will be ending soon. They need to sweeten the offer to make me want to make the move from a no contract service to the ball and chain contract service. No new phones, no savings, no nothing. Come on TMO wake up you have to make it worth while to existing flex play customers to make the change or they are going to move to another provider.

    • adluna

      Same here. Tmo has been hounding me for a couple of months to change my EM+ plan. I kept saying, “No, thank you.” The last time they called I was told that I could not keep my plan and “had to change it.” I said, “Well, if I have to…”. She transferred me over to another department to make the change. His first question, “Do you want to change your plan?”. I said, “Hell no!” and explained how I had been lied to by the previous agent. He said I did not have to change and could keep the plan I have now. I asked that they stop texting and calling me about it. That was about 2 weeks ago. Today,I got another email telling me I needed to change my plan!

      I think AT&T is trying to lock in as many Tmo customers with new 2 yr. contracts so we won/t leave for one of the CDMA companies after (if) they merge. 

    • adluna

      Same here. Tmo has been hounding me for a couple of months to change my EM+ plan. I kept saying, “No, thank you.” The last time they called I was told that I could not keep my plan and “had to change it.” I said, “Well, if I have to…”. She transferred me over to another department to make the change. His first question, “Do you want to change your plan?”. I said, “Hell no!” and explained how I had been lied to by the previous agent. He said I did not have to change and could keep the plan I have now. I asked that they stop texting and calling me about it. That was about 2 weeks ago. Today,I got another email telling me I needed to change my plan!

      I think AT&T is trying to lock in as many Tmo customers with new 2 yr. contracts so we won/t leave for one of the CDMA companies after (if) they merge. 

  • Anonymous

    I am wondering what AT&T will do with T-Mobile’s MVNO Simple Mobile. They might shut them down, and try to force the customers over to AT&T’s prepaid service, which is way more expensive, and you get less.

  • Anonymous

    I am wondering what AT&T will do with T-Mobile’s MVNO Simple Mobile. They might shut them down, and try to force the customers over to AT&T’s prepaid service, which is way more expensive, and you get less.

  • Anonymous

    I am wondering what AT&T will do with T-Mobile’s MVNO Simple Mobile. They might shut them down, and try to force the customers over to AT&T’s prepaid service, which is way more expensive, and you get less.

  • Anonymous

    I am wondering what AT&T will do with T-Mobile’s MVNO Simple Mobile. They might shut them down, and try to force the customers over to AT&T’s prepaid service, which is way more expensive, and you get less.

  • Anonymous

    I am wondering what AT&T will do with T-Mobile’s MVNO Simple Mobile. They might shut them down, and try to force the customers over to AT&T’s prepaid service, which is way more expensive, and you get less.

  • Svfitz

    http://www.bgr.com/2011/08/29/att-network-ranked-worst-among-major-u-s-carriers-by-j-d-power/
    What else needs to be said?!  AT$T deal goes through, why stay with the WORST carrier.  
    I’ve already been getting calls from TMo to change my plan.  Actually they seem to be saying (maybe my impression) that the EM+ is going away and that you need to switch to a value plan.   
    I’m not locking in to any contracts with anyone until I know they are going to be providing the same quality of service day 1 as day 730 and that if I have an issue I will be treated like a valued customer not a burden.       

  • Svfitz

    http://www.bgr.com/2011/08/29/att-network-ranked-worst-among-major-u-s-carriers-by-j-d-power/
    What else needs to be said?!  AT$T deal goes through, why stay with the WORST carrier.  
    I’ve already been getting calls from TMo to change my plan.  Actually they seem to be saying (maybe my impression) that the EM+ is going away and that you need to switch to a value plan.   
    I’m not locking in to any contracts with anyone until I know they are going to be providing the same quality of service day 1 as day 730 and that if I have an issue I will be treated like a valued customer not a burden.       

  • Svfitz

    http://www.bgr.com/2011/08/29/att-network-ranked-worst-among-major-u-s-carriers-by-j-d-power/
    What else needs to be said?!  AT$T deal goes through, why stay with the WORST carrier.  
    I’ve already been getting calls from TMo to change my plan.  Actually they seem to be saying (maybe my impression) that the EM+ is going away and that you need to switch to a value plan.   
    I’m not locking in to any contracts with anyone until I know they are going to be providing the same quality of service day 1 as day 730 and that if I have an issue I will be treated like a valued customer not a burden.       

  • Thomas Brezinski

    I’ve already gotten calls and e-mails.  I bought the G2 when it came out and am still paying my EIP on that with EM+ plan.  If they will backdate the start of the contract term to the date I bought the phone I “might” consider it.  But I’m not signing a 2 yr contract with a phone that’s already a year old.

    I really hope the merger doesn’t go through.  I don’t want AT&T and Verizon reception is horrible at my house.

  • http://twitter.com/PaulHarrisonPro Paul Harrison

    There’s only one set of circumstances in which I’d switch to a “Value Plan”: if they change the ETF to 1c.

    Otherwise it’s a really bad deal right now. If it’s true AT&T plans to simply get rid of all T-Mobile customers with EM+ (what?! why? “Hmmm, we have all these customers who are paying by the month for phone service. I have a great idea, let’s get rid of them. Yay us!”) then ultimately I think I’ll switch my wife and I to a prepaid offering, probably not from AT&T.

    But… in any case, I doubt there are serious plans by AT&T to get rid of EM+ customers, despite the scaremongering here. AT&T – like all operators – has plenty of out of contract customers already. There’s no sense in getting rid of loyal customers, especially if their only “crime” is to not accept phone subsidies. And putting up prices for EM+ users doesn’t make much sense either – EM+ may once have been the “very cheap” option, but it’s not that cheap by today’s standards, especially given the lack of a subsidy.

    To believe AT&T will get rid of EM+ or put up prices is to believe AT&T wants to drive away customers who are already dubious about them for no good reason. That doesn’t make any sense. Yes, AT&T has committed to sticking with existing contracts, but they’ve made no statements suggesting that implies getting rid of customers without. A customer is a customer. You don’t upset a customer – who can leave at any time – without a very good reason.

  • http://twitter.com/PaulHarrisonPro Paul Harrison

    There’s only one set of circumstances in which I’d switch to a “Value Plan”: if they change the ETF to 1c.

    Otherwise it’s a really bad deal right now. If it’s true AT&T plans to simply get rid of all T-Mobile customers with EM+ (what?! why? “Hmmm, we have all these customers who are paying by the month for phone service. I have a great idea, let’s get rid of them. Yay us!”) then ultimately I think I’ll switch my wife and I to a prepaid offering, probably not from AT&T.

    But… in any case, I doubt there are serious plans by AT&T to get rid of EM+ customers, despite the scaremongering here. AT&T – like all operators – has plenty of out of contract customers already. There’s no sense in getting rid of loyal customers, especially if their only “crime” is to not accept phone subsidies. And putting up prices for EM+ users doesn’t make much sense either – EM+ may once have been the “very cheap” option, but it’s not that cheap by today’s standards, especially given the lack of a subsidy.

    To believe AT&T will get rid of EM+ or put up prices is to believe AT&T wants to drive away customers who are already dubious about them for no good reason. That doesn’t make any sense. Yes, AT&T has committed to sticking with existing contracts, but they’ve made no statements suggesting that implies getting rid of customers without. A customer is a customer. You don’t upset a customer – who can leave at any time – without a very good reason.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=829184847 Ryan Cassidy

    If I have to change my plan because of this merger, I’ll just go to Sprint.

    • http://darnell-chat.myopenid.com/ Darnell

      Exactly, so long as we stay EM+, we have the benefit of being able to play the field. 

    • http://darnell-chat.myopenid.com/ Darnell

      Exactly, so long as we stay EM+, we have the benefit of being able to play the field. 

    • http://darnell-chat.myopenid.com/ Darnell

      Exactly, so long as we stay EM+, we have the benefit of being able to play the field. 

  • http://twitter.com/#!/ImpyChick pantlesspenguin

    I was told by THREE different T-Mo employees that if I stay on EMP I will be able to carry this rate over to AT&T and it would stay the same unless I change something on the plan, like add more minutes, etc.

    • derek 21

      unfortunately no one knows, since you don’t have a contract no one has to honor anything

    • derek 21

      unfortunately no one knows, since you don’t have a contract no one has to honor anything

    • derek 21

      unfortunately no one knows, since you don’t have a contract no one has to honor anything

    • derek 21

      unfortunately no one knows, since you don’t have a contract no one has to honor anything

    • derek 21

      unfortunately no one knows, since you don’t have a contract no one has to honor anything

    • derek 21

      unfortunately no one knows, since you don’t have a contract no one has to honor anything

    • derek 21

      unfortunately no one knows, since you don’t have a contract no one has to honor anything

  • derek 21

    these plans can save some people 40 – 70 a month no is one is going to take that much money off your bill, not expect a contract when you already been getting a discount on the plan however long u had it, and no one is going to give you a free phone or discount when people that are getting discounts are not paying what you would pay. i like how either tmonew or their insider  photoshopped that at &t statement at the end clever

  • derek 21

    these plans can save some people 40 – 70 a month no is one is going to take that much money off your bill, not expect a contract when you already been getting a discount on the plan however long u had it, and no one is going to give you a free phone or discount when people that are getting discounts are not paying what you would pay. i like how either tmonew or their insider  photoshopped that at &t statement at the end clever

  • Yogi

    I switched from Even More Plus to a Value plan about a week ago. Here’s a comparison:

    Old Plan:
    $139.99 EM+ Unlimited Talk, Text, Data (5GB high speed) for the first two lines
    $55 Unlimited Talk, Text, Data (5GB high speed) for the third line
    $30 Unlimited Talk, Text, No Data for the fourth line
    $10 200 minutes Talk, Unlimited Text for the fifth line
    $234.99 Total

    New Plan:
    $99.98 Value Plan Unlimited Talk, Text, Data (2GB high speed) for the first two lines
    $35 Unlimited Talk, Text, Data (2GB high speed) for the third line
    $25 Unlimited Talk, Text, No Data for the fourth line
    $5 500 minutes Talk, Unlimited Text for the fifth line
    $164.98
     
    The new Value Plan has more flexibility on the data packages, which is great for us since the first two smartphones don’t come anywhere close to 2GB of data. I average around 3GB per month, but since switching from a Vibrant to a Dell Venue Pro, I find myself using Wi-Fi more since it doesn’t kill the battery as bad as it did on the Vibrant. So I went with 2GB of high speed, for now. Even if I do end up needing more data, I can simply change the data plan on my phone, the third line in the above comparisons, to the 5GB Data Premium for $15 more.

    Much more flexibility and better pricing makes me happy. Of course, I had never gone to the EM+ plans because of the no contract, but more because I wasn’t paying the phone subsidy. I prefer to buy my phones myself rather than fall into the subsidy/upgrade trap that the carriers like to play. For people complaining about the contract, I would suggest looking at the Monthly 4G prepaid plans that don’t come with a contract. Although, there is no family plan with those.

    • Yogi

      Oh, and it’s also nice to know that I’m locked into a great rate plan if the AT&T merger does go through.

      • Dude Lebowski

        I have iPhone4 with monthly 4g but I will switch to value plan right before the merger start so I have more time on savings when locked in.

      • Dude Lebowski

        I have iPhone4 with monthly 4g but I will switch to value plan right before the merger start so I have more time on savings when locked in.

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      This is a well-written, detailed, and informative post, I hope people appreciate the effort you made to pass on the information.

      Although I am no longer directly on T-Mobile (I switched my two lines to another carrier, I signed my mom and sister on to T-Mobile).

      Anyway, I went with EM+ for one reason only, to save monthly $10 per line.

      As to phones, since I was buying new phones every few months, on both lines, when EM+ came around I was not concerned that I would have to pay full price for phones since I was doing something similar already.

      What I was doing is keeping my phones in like-new condition, saved the boxes and accessories. This allowed me to get top dollar on eBay after using the phone for three to four months.  All penciled out, I ended up “renting” the best T-Mobile phones, for about $10 to $20 monthly.

      • Yogi

        Thanks for the kind words. I just wanted to give a real world example of how switching from EM+ to a Value Plan can be beneficial. Especially after reading some of the misinformation in the comments.

        I’m the guy that buys those like-new condition phones off of eBay/Craigslist or takes advantage of deals at retail, such as the current one from Dell for $299 for a Venue Pro. I prefer to pay as little as possible in monthly service and buy the phone I want, how I want. I never understood how people can’t get past the low upfront cost of subsidized phones to see they are paying more for them in the long run.

      • Yogi

        Thanks for the kind words. I just wanted to give a real world example of how switching from EM+ to a Value Plan can be beneficial. Especially after reading some of the misinformation in the comments.

        I’m the guy that buys those like-new condition phones off of eBay/Craigslist or takes advantage of deals at retail, such as the current one from Dell for $299 for a Venue Pro. I prefer to pay as little as possible in monthly service and buy the phone I want, how I want. I never understood how people can’t get past the low upfront cost of subsidized phones to see they are paying more for them in the long run.

  • SteVenM

    My understanding is that any customer under contract will be able to keep their terms until the end of that contract.  Once that contract expires, whether its Even More, Value or something else, ATT would not have to honor those prices going forward, and probably wouldn’t – no matter what is said right now.  I wouldn’t trust anything a Tmobile customer rep tells me because they don’t know what they’re talking about most of the time.

  • SteVenM

    Value plan seems fine if you already have a working phone – if you’re buying a phone then it seems to even out.  My old phone isn’t a smartphone so Id have to buy a new phone, and if I just wanted a talkl only (with minimal texting) plan, Id be better off with my old ‘grandfathered’ plan.  There’s no way ATT would honor that after a contract expired.  So my options are to sign a 2 year contract before the merger so I buy myself 2 years…or take my chances and switch carriers