T-Mobile Didn’t Show Galaxy S II Device Because Of Processor Changes?

While I expressed a great deal of disappoint that T-Mobile didn’t show off their Galaxy S II device last night at the Samsung Press Event, I clearly wasn’t alone. A number of sites have begun speculating and all seemingly agreeing on the “real” reason T-Mobile wasn’t keen to show off their own version.

Both the AT&T and Sprint versions of the Galaxy S II have the Samsung Exynos 4210 processor inside and the AT&T version, like the European counterpart can hop onto HSPA+ networks but only to the speed of 21Mbps. T-Mobile who has previously been rumored to want to bump up the speed capability of their own Galaxy S II device to 42Mbps has likely forced Samsung to stuff a competitors solution into their flagship phone.

This all being said, we expect that when someone finally gets a chance to tear open a Samsung Galaxy S II of the T-Mobile kind, they will discover some Qualcomm love inside. The Qualcomm Snapdragon processor would provide the 42Mbps requested speeds when paired with Qualcomm’s MDM8220 modem which will also likely be found inside the T-Mobile GSII variant.

During yesterday’s press event we should emphasize that Samsung was careful only to say that the T-Mobile model was dual-core and did not confirm or deny the presence of the Exynos chip inside. The Intel XMM6260 modem that is found in the European models of the GSII and likely the AT&T version as well will top out at 21Mbps HSPA+ speeds.

So there you go, while we are still hugely disappointed that we didn’t get to see a whole lot of hands on and video time there might actually be a good reason that T-Mobile didn’t want to show off the device. I’ll gladly take 42Mbps capability over a few minutes of hands on time, how about you?

Thisismynext; Anandtech

P.S. Check out the pictures of TmoNews up on the AT&T version of the Galaxy S II. Thanks Aaron!

 

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  • Markj

    Boooo! Qualcomm Snapdragon is last gen Cortex A8 architecture tweaked by Qualcomm vs Exynos A9.  I’d rather have Exynos because you aren’t going to see 42 or even 21 Mbps in actual data speeds anyway.

    • Anonymous

      Your comment just showed how little you know about Snapdragon processors.

    • Anonymous

      Your comment just showed how little you know about Snapdragon processors.

      • Anonymous

        +gohaus, please explain?

      • Anonymous

        +gohaus, please explain?

      • Anonymous

        What do you know about snapdragon processors?

      • Anonymous

        What do you know about snapdragon processors?

      • Anonymous

        What do you know about snapdragon processors?

      • http://twitter.com/droid1967 Droid 1967

        point that comment at yourself.  his comment is correct. he didnt even say anything other than boo. But ill expand even at 1.5 the 1.2 exynos will run circles around it. and noone will ever see 42 down.  they are sacrificing phone performance so they can put a phone 2 feet from a tower and say see we are faster than verizons LTE. 
        If this is true it just shows that these companies have no idea about the phones harware other than what is needed to run on their network.  will the phone run ok most probably, But all of the problems with doing this as listed through out these comments are 100% accurate.  One of the biggest things about the s2 was the exynos is a killer processor. the snapdragons are not bad but they are the slowest and most outdated processors out there. that is just a fact.

      • Ron mexico

        Your comment shows how little you know, what he says is true.

        It’s a safe bet the T-Mo variant is snapdragon. It has Netflix :(

  • http://twitter.com/zeeshanbakhrani Zeeshan Bakhrani

    I shall await the anger of the commenters

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, some people are over the top.

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, some people are over the top.

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, some people are over the top.

  • http://twitter.com/zeeshanbakhrani Zeeshan Bakhrani

    I shall await the anger of the commenters

  • OKDave

    More T-Mobile garbage. Patience is worn out from all the doublespeak and delays.

    • Moitoi

      You REALLY call TMo’s lineup of SUPERphones garbage? Move on, we don’t need Your garbage!

      • OKDave

        A half-baked SGSII? A chronically buggy G2? I won’t move on. I will post here as often as I like and the editor of the site tolerates. If you don’t like it, you’ll have to get used to ignoring me. I’m a decade-long customer of TMobile, and I don’t like trashing them, but when its taken this long to get this phone to market, and it appears their variant is going to be a processor-crippled version, they bear the brunt of the criticism. If you’re nothing but a T-Mobile sycophant fanboy, perhaps you are the one who needs to move along. 

      • OKDave

        A half-baked SGSII? A chronically buggy G2? I won’t move on. I will post here as often as I like and the editor of the site tolerates. If you don’t like it, you’ll have to get used to ignoring me. I’m a decade-long customer of TMobile, and I don’t like trashing them, but when its taken this long to get this phone to market, and it appears their variant is going to be a processor-crippled version, they bear the brunt of the criticism. If you’re nothing but a T-Mobile sycophant fanboy, perhaps you are the one who needs to move along. 

        • Anonymous

          I’m with you. T-mobile really disappointed me.

      • OKDave

        A half-baked SGSII? A chronically buggy G2? I won’t move on. I will post here as often as I like and the editor of the site tolerates. If you don’t like it, you’ll have to get used to ignoring me. I’m a decade-long customer of TMobile, and I don’t like trashing them, but when its taken this long to get this phone to market, and it appears their variant is going to be a processor-crippled version, they bear the brunt of the criticism. If you’re nothing but a T-Mobile sycophant fanboy, perhaps you are the one who needs to move along. 

      • OKDave

        A half-baked SGSII? A chronically buggy G2? I won’t move on. I will post here as often as I like and the editor of the site tolerates. If you don’t like it, you’ll have to get used to ignoring me. I’m a decade-long customer of TMobile, and I don’t like trashing them, but when its taken this long to get this phone to market, and it appears their variant is going to be a processor-crippled version, they bear the brunt of the criticism. If you’re nothing but a T-Mobile sycophant fanboy, perhaps you are the one who needs to move along. 

  • armand vasquez

    Personally I am willing to wait till they make it the better device to stand out from the rest.  I was an early adopter of the Galaxy S first gen and I regret it because of the GPS issue so I am willing to wait for them to make sure they get it right.

  • Anonymous

    Not that changes cannot be made but Samsung’s own website has the Galaxy S II listed as having “The immensely powerful C210 Dual Core processor gives you the velocity of two processors acting as one”.

    All three phones are described together on the site.

    I won’t not get this phone because it is a different processor but they will just further fuel my desire to wait to find out if TMO is getting the Nexus.  

    What’s worse than the fact that the phone was locked up in a box was the fact that there was SEVEN of them locked behind boxes.  WTF.

    • Wilma Flintstone

      I MUST KNOW!?!? On a Scale of 1-10, How good was PLANET OF ZE APES?!?
      And was it as good as the original? Or shall I say, as funny as the original?

      • Anonymous

        Planet of the Apes or Planet of the Apes featuring Marky Mark?  LOL

        Being an 80′s baby I can’t say much good about the 68′ version.  Compared to the 01′ remake, Rise of the Apes was waaaaay better.  IMDB usually disappoints me with their user reviews but they actually got it right when they gave the 01′ version a 5.6 whereas the new one gets a 7.9.

        Me personally I give to movie 10 stars.  It was edge of your seat, visually stunning how real the monkeys looked, and the way they got smarter was extremely fascinating.   They knew exactly what they were doing in making that movie an introduction to easily 2 more movies.

        @423ab555eb22e7187a30170dccd9811f:disqus  ya gotta see it.

      • Anonymous

        Planet of the Apes or Planet of the Apes featuring Marky Mark?  LOL

        Being an 80′s baby I can’t say much good about the 68′ version.  Compared to the 01′ remake, Rise of the Apes was waaaaay better.  IMDB usually disappoints me with their user reviews but they actually got it right when they gave the 01′ version a 5.6 whereas the new one gets a 7.9.

        Me personally I give to movie 10 stars.  It was edge of your seat, visually stunning how real the monkeys looked, and the way they got smarter was extremely fascinating.   They knew exactly what they were doing in making that movie an introduction to easily 2 more movies.

        @423ab555eb22e7187a30170dccd9811f:disqus  ya gotta see it.

        • Wilma Flintstone

          Well now, sounds like it was a Total Nail Biter.  A Thrilling Movie with a simply Masterful Plot.  Siskel and Ebert give it 2 thumbs up even.  An Edge-Of-Your-Seat Plot with a Mindboggling Twist.  A Sinister Scheme with Unrivaled Character Development.  (Yes, I need to be one of those Movie Preview People LOL)

          Bet the monkeys didn’t look more real than MIGHTY JOE YOUNG!!!  >:)

          Ah, a fellow 80′s Baby.  Glad I’m not alone in the 80′s here.  Great shows, good TV programming, Snorks, Zoobilee Zoo, Big Comfy Couch – Yes I went there.  Do not get me going with naming old shows, I’ll be going for a long time.

          I’ll check it out

        • Wilma Flintstone

          Well now, sounds like it was a Total Nail Biter.  A Thrilling Movie with a simply Masterful Plot.  Siskel and Ebert give it 2 thumbs up even.  An Edge-Of-Your-Seat Plot with a Mindboggling Twist.  A Sinister Scheme with Unrivaled Character Development.  (Yes, I need to be one of those Movie Preview People LOL)

          Bet the monkeys didn’t look more real than MIGHTY JOE YOUNG!!!  >:)

          Ah, a fellow 80′s Baby.  Glad I’m not alone in the 80′s here.  Great shows, good TV programming, Snorks, Zoobilee Zoo, Big Comfy Couch – Yes I went there.  Do not get me going with naming old shows, I’ll be going for a long time.

          I’ll check it out

        • Wilma Flintstone

          Well now, sounds like it was a Total Nail Biter.  A Thrilling Movie with a simply Masterful Plot.  Siskel and Ebert give it 2 thumbs up even.  An Edge-Of-Your-Seat Plot with a Mindboggling Twist.  A Sinister Scheme with Unrivaled Character Development.  (Yes, I need to be one of those Movie Preview People LOL)

          Bet the monkeys didn’t look more real than MIGHTY JOE YOUNG!!!  >:)

          Ah, a fellow 80′s Baby.  Glad I’m not alone in the 80′s here.  Great shows, good TV programming, Snorks, Zoobilee Zoo, Big Comfy Couch – Yes I went there.  Do not get me going with naming old shows, I’ll be going for a long time.

          I’ll check it out

        • Wilma Flintstone

          Well now, sounds like it was a Total Nail Biter.  A Thrilling Movie with a simply Masterful Plot.  Siskel and Ebert give it 2 thumbs up even.  An Edge-Of-Your-Seat Plot with a Mindboggling Twist.  A Sinister Scheme with Unrivaled Character Development.  (Yes, I need to be one of those Movie Preview People LOL)

          Bet the monkeys didn’t look more real than MIGHTY JOE YOUNG!!!  >:)

          Ah, a fellow 80′s Baby.  Glad I’m not alone in the 80′s here.  Great shows, good TV programming, Snorks, Zoobilee Zoo, Big Comfy Couch – Yes I went there.  Do not get me going with naming old shows, I’ll be going for a long time.

          I’ll check it out

        • Wilma Flintstone

          Well now, sounds like it was a Total Nail Biter.  A Thrilling Movie with a simply Masterful Plot.  Siskel and Ebert give it 2 thumbs up even.  An Edge-Of-Your-Seat Plot with a Mindboggling Twist.  A Sinister Scheme with Unrivaled Character Development.  (Yes, I need to be one of those Movie Preview People LOL)

          Bet the monkeys didn’t look more real than MIGHTY JOE YOUNG!!!  >:)

          Ah, a fellow 80′s Baby.  Glad I’m not alone in the 80′s here.  Great shows, good TV programming, Snorks, Zoobilee Zoo, Big Comfy Couch – Yes I went there.  Do not get me going with naming old shows, I’ll be going for a long time.

          I’ll check it out

        • Wilma Flintstone

          Oh crud, Not ze Marky Mark Version!!!  LOL!!!  Even though he was too funny in Four Brothers.  “You Freakin’ Fairy” LOL

        • Wilma Flintstone

          Oh crud, Not ze Marky Mark Version!!!  LOL!!!  Even though he was too funny in Four Brothers.  “You Freakin’ Fairy” LOL

        • Wilma Flintstone

          Oh crud, Not ze Marky Mark Version!!!  LOL!!!  Even though he was too funny in Four Brothers.  “You Freakin’ Fairy” LOL

        • Wilma Flintstone

          Oh crud, Not ze Marky Mark Version!!!  LOL!!!  Even though he was too funny in Four Brothers.  “You Freakin’ Fairy” LOL

        • Wilma Flintstone

          Well now, sounds like it was a Total Nail Biter.  A Thrilling Movie with a simply Masterful Plot.  Siskel and Ebert give it 2 thumbs up even.  An Edge-Of-Your-Seat Plot with a Mindboggling Twist.  A Sinister Scheme with Unrivaled Character Development.  (Yes, I need to be one of those Movie Preview People LOL)

          Bet the monkeys didn’t look more real than MIGHTY JOE YOUNG!!!  >:)

          Ah, a fellow 80′s Baby.  Glad I’m not alone in the 80′s here.  Great shows, good TV programming, Snorks, Zoobilee Zoo, Big Comfy Couch – Yes I went there.  Do not get me going with naming old shows, I’ll be going for a long time.

          I’ll check it out

    • Wilma Flintstone

      I MUST KNOW!?!? On a Scale of 1-10, How good was PLANET OF ZE APES?!?
      And was it as good as the original? Or shall I say, as funny as the original?

  • John

    If those pics were from an AT&T phone, why do they have T-Mobile TV on them?

    • Carlos2628

      Those pics are from the Tmobile version of the SGS2.

    • Carlos2628

      Those pics are from the Tmobile version of the SGS2.

      • Anonymous

        No, they are not. The pics of the phone in the guys hands are the AT&T model. Notice the H+ symbol on top, compared to T-Mobile’s “4G” icon.

        Why do you think, the pics are from the T-Mobile version, when the T-Mobile version was locked down, and not for public holding.

      • Anonymous

        No, they are not. The pics of the phone in the guys hands are the AT&T model. Notice the H+ symbol on top, compared to T-Mobile’s “4G” icon.

        Why do you think, the pics are from the T-Mobile version, when the T-Mobile version was locked down, and not for public holding.

    • Carlos2628

      Those pics are from the Tmobile version of the SGS2.

    • Anonymous

      The phone you see on the with the T-Mobile TV is, the T-Mobile version. It phone in the guys hands, is the AT&T version.

    • Anonymous

      The phone you see on the with the T-Mobile TV is, the T-Mobile version. It phone in the guys hands, is the AT&T version.

  • Aaron Blain

    More excuses this phone should launch Sept 20….

  • Aaron Blain

    More excuses this phone should launch Sept 20….

  • Aaron Blain

    More excuses this phone should launch Sept 20….

  • Navy

    F^*& You T-Mobile USA, Your Current Customers still deserve the best, stop giving us second hand products 

  • Navy

    F^*& You T-Mobile USA, Your Current Customers still deserve the best, stop giving us second hand products 

    • Moitoi

      WHAT??? TMo has provided its customers with Outstanding Choices! Just Look at the Bounty of SuperPhones in their Lineup this year : LG2X, HTC Sensation, Samsung Galaxy 4G, Mytouch 4G, LG Tab and now the Samsung GS2 variant…just WHAT are you Complaining about? THIS is, perhaps, the Best lineup of Any US Carrier…

  • http://pharaohtechblog.blogspot.com/ Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)

    Actually, the MDM8220 would be a bad choice for a smartphone because the MDM8220 isn’t designed to be integrated into a Snapdragon SoC for a smartphone. On the other hand, using the MDM8220 would allow them to use an Exynos SoC, since the Exynos SoC was designed to be able to work with different modem solutions…

  • http://pharaohtechblog.blogspot.com/ Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)

    Actually, the MDM8220 would be a bad choice for a smartphone because the MDM8220 isn’t designed to be integrated into a Snapdragon SoC for a smartphone. On the other hand, using the MDM8220 would allow them to use an Exynos SoC, since the Exynos SoC was designed to be able to work with different modem solutions…

  • Pythonpit

    Would this mean that the tmo version would be slower processors than other sgs2? The sgs2 had quadrant scores of 3500 with native processors. Are they exchanging system performance for wan performance? Plus on the original tmo sgs, we ended up with failed GPS as a result of last minute hardware changes.

    • Brianv3ntura

      Quadrant scores mean nothing to real world experience.

      • Anonymous

        It does actually. Check the sensation 4g who has in the high 1900.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GEHFXH67KK5NVX6X7PBMFVPXPA Infrared

          Actually, quadrant scores are not good benchmarks. Quadrant doesn’t have dual-core support, and there’s a plethora of reasons why real world experience is more telling than a single number that a benchmark spews out (that is highly skewed by certain factors). But I would agree that the Sensation is lower performing than the SGS2 (I have a Sensation, so I can talk trash on it). And the reason for the Sensation’s less-than-sensational performance is that HTC released it with a version of Sense 3.0 that isn’t optimized, and also because we have yet to be able to exploit the asynchronous cores.

        • Pythonpit

          We got off the real issue here. does this post imply slower processors in exchange for higher data speeds?

        • Guest

          I have to agree with Brianv3ntura. I have a Sensation 4G and it works great. Keep in mind that Quadrant is not yet capable of recognizing the Sensation’s asynchronious processor, resulting in inaccurate scores.

        • Guest

          I have to agree with Brianv3ntura. I have a Sensation 4G and it works great. Keep in mind that Quadrant is not yet capable of recognizing the Sensation’s asynchronious processor, resulting in inaccurate scores.

        • Anonymous

          I understand about the asynchronous cores, I’m writing this comment on my sensation 4 g so I know too. But even though quadrant is not optimise for dual cores and especially asynchronous cores, the galaxy s 2 hits in the high 3000 and the sensation in the high 1900/ low 2000s. That 1000 plus difference between the two phones are very noticeable on a daily usage. The galaxy s2 smokes the sensation in everyway. That’s why I believe, in this case, that quadrant is kinda accurate because I don’t feel like the sensation is very fast, its more like a super fast single core thanks to the asynchronous cores ( sarcasm…). Then u got sense 3.0 which is not helping performance at all.

        • Anonymous

          I understand about the asynchronous cores, I’m writing this comment on my sensation 4 g so I know too. But even though quadrant is not optimise for dual cores and especially asynchronous cores, the galaxy s 2 hits in the high 3000 and the sensation in the high 1900/ low 2000s. That 1000 plus difference between the two phones are very noticeable on a daily usage. The galaxy s2 smokes the sensation in everyway. That’s why I believe, in this case, that quadrant is kinda accurate because I don’t feel like the sensation is very fast, its more like a super fast single core thanks to the asynchronous cores ( sarcasm…). Then u got sense 3.0 which is not helping performance at all.

        • Anonymous

          I understand about the asynchronous cores, I’m writing this comment on my sensation 4 g so I know too. But even though quadrant is not optimise for dual cores and especially asynchronous cores, the galaxy s 2 hits in the high 3000 and the sensation in the high 1900/ low 2000s. That 1000 plus difference between the two phones are very noticeable on a daily usage. The galaxy s2 smokes the sensation in everyway. That’s why I believe, in this case, that quadrant is kinda accurate because I don’t feel like the sensation is very fast, its more like a super fast single core thanks to the asynchronous cores ( sarcasm…). Then u got sense 3.0 which is not helping performance at all.

        • Anonymous

          Honesty, would you prefer an exynos SoC or a Qualcomm?

        • LouerAdun

          Being completely honest here, I have to say that I would take the Qualcomm chip.  Hopefully Samsung has got some better drivers than HTC was able to come up with.  I will definitely be laughing if this phone smokes the original SGSII.  It already has the benefit of not having Sense, so it is likely to be a little faster than the sensation out the door, especially rendering less pixels to the screen.

        • Anonymous

          Ok, I respect your opinion BUT: why would you pick the snapdragon when it’s a fact that the exynos is a better processor? Maybe there’s something you know that I don’t. If you say battery life, the galaxy s2 has a better battery life than the sensation. If you say performance, u know the galaxy s2 runs circles around the sensation with sandals on. I just don’t see why would somebody buy a ps2 instead of a ps3 if they are the same price.

        • Anonymous

          Ok, I respect your opinion BUT: why would you pick the snapdragon when it’s a fact that the exynos is a better processor? Maybe there’s something you know that I don’t. If you say battery life, the galaxy s2 has a better battery life than the sensation. If you say performance, u know the galaxy s2 runs circles around the sensation with sandals on. I just don’t see why would somebody buy a ps2 instead of a ps3 if they are the same price.

        • Anonymous

          Ok, I respect your opinion BUT: why would you pick the snapdragon when it’s a fact that the exynos is a better processor? Maybe there’s something you know that I don’t. If you say battery life, the galaxy s2 has a better battery life than the sensation. If you say performance, u know the galaxy s2 runs circles around the sensation with sandals on. I just don’t see why would somebody buy a ps2 instead of a ps3 if they are the same price.

        • LouerAdun

          Being completely honest here, I have to say that I would take the Qualcomm chip.  Hopefully Samsung has got some better drivers than HTC was able to come up with.  I will definitely be laughing if this phone smokes the original SGSII.  It already has the benefit of not having Sense, so it is likely to be a little faster than the sensation out the door, especially rendering less pixels to the screen.

        • LouerAdun

          Being completely honest here, I have to say that I would take the Qualcomm chip.  Hopefully Samsung has got some better drivers than HTC was able to come up with.  I will definitely be laughing if this phone smokes the original SGSII.  It already has the benefit of not having Sense, so it is likely to be a little faster than the sensation out the door, especially rendering less pixels to the screen.

        • LouerAdun

          Being completely honest here, I have to say that I would take the Qualcomm chip.  Hopefully Samsung has got some better drivers than HTC was able to come up with.  I will definitely be laughing if this phone smokes the original SGSII.  It already has the benefit of not having Sense, so it is likely to be a little faster than the sensation out the door, especially rendering less pixels to the screen.

      • LouerAdun

        Quadrant scores mean nothing, but for those of you who think it does… Using a custom kernel on my Sensation 4g now and I get over 3200.  (And remember that Quadrant is not built for asynchronous cores, and it is still running the Sense UI which is a major memory hog).  Just as with all these high end androids… they all come with problems.

        The wonderful devs over at XDA spend many hours working out the kinks that the manufacturers ignored.  By the time they have the asynchronous scaling working properly, this phone will likely beat the crap out of the SGSII.

        Anyways.. back to the point, although Quadrant may give a reasonable benchmark on certain hardware, it is not the end all of phone performance, and a low mark doesn’t necessarily mean the phone is a slouch.  That said, it is still a great tool to measure performance gains when tweaking/modifying your phone’s software.

      • LouerAdun

        Quadrant scores mean nothing, but for those of you who think it does… Using a custom kernel on my Sensation 4g now and I get over 3200.  (And remember that Quadrant is not built for asynchronous cores, and it is still running the Sense UI which is a major memory hog).  Just as with all these high end androids… they all come with problems.

        The wonderful devs over at XDA spend many hours working out the kinks that the manufacturers ignored.  By the time they have the asynchronous scaling working properly, this phone will likely beat the crap out of the SGSII.

        Anyways.. back to the point, although Quadrant may give a reasonable benchmark on certain hardware, it is not the end all of phone performance, and a low mark doesn’t necessarily mean the phone is a slouch.  That said, it is still a great tool to measure performance gains when tweaking/modifying your phone’s software.

  • Pythonpit

    Would this mean that the tmo version would be slower processors than other sgs2? The sgs2 had quadrant scores of 3500 with native processors. Are they exchanging system performance for wan performance? Plus on the original tmo sgs, we ended up with failed GPS as a result of last minute hardware changes.

  • Anonymous

    If this drops performance I hope they think twice about it. My Galaxy S version 1 has too many issues

  • Anonymous

    If this drops performance I hope they think twice about it. My Galaxy S version 1 has too many issues

  • Wilma Flintstone

    Yep, alot of people are disappointed yet again with Tmobile. The Usual cycle continues. Hype built then the Let Down.

    I’m getting either the N9 or the Optimus 3D in white. I’ll have to demo this GS2 whenever it decides to show. The N9 is coming out around Sept. 7th and the White Optimus 3D is already out at phones4u I believe.

    October is too far away to wait any longer with this (H)and-me (D)own 2.

    Also, I demoed the G2X yesterday and its got great performance (dont like swype keyboard though – no direction keys) and I like the build quality. I was just using that to see what LG’s build quality was like and it’s pretty good. I also have a friend that has a WP7 LG device and the build quality of that device feels great too. Hopefully the Optimus 3D has similar build quality.

    Also, This would be the first Nexus device that Tmobile didnt get if Verizon gets it Exclusive. I find that a bit odd.

    P.S. MEEGOOOOO!!!!! Ok just had to do that. XD

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CNT4STRR32F4334TXB65VVNT3Y Rampage

      I thought LG G2x had lots of problems like screen bleed and random reboots. Don’t believe me? Just search online you’ll find a lot of posts on these issues. Terrible quality from LG.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CNT4STRR32F4334TXB65VVNT3Y Rampage

      I thought LG G2x had lots of problems like screen bleed and random reboots. Don’t believe me? Just search online you’ll find a lot of posts on these issues. Terrible quality from LG.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CNT4STRR32F4334TXB65VVNT3Y Rampage

      I thought LG G2x had lots of problems like screen bleed and random reboots. Don’t believe me? Just search online you’ll find a lot of posts on these issues. Terrible quality from LG.

      • Wilma Flintstone

        Oh, didn’t know that as seeing I was just demoing the in store phone.  I’ll check into that.  I did however see a Gingerbread Custom ROM for it. 
        Also, you’ll realize that ALOT of these new phones have “LOTS of Problems” if you google them.  Thanks for the heads up though. 

      • Wilma Flintstone

        Oh, didn’t know that as seeing I was just demoing the in store phone.  I’ll check into that.  I did however see a Gingerbread Custom ROM for it. 
        Also, you’ll realize that ALOT of these new phones have “LOTS of Problems” if you google them.  Thanks for the heads up though. 

      • Evilbox

        Yeah Rampage check online. The problems were fixed with the official gingerbread update. Not sure what they did about the screen bleed, but my g2x doesn’t have any. It’s a great phone I think. And the cyanogen nightlies have only made it better :)

  • Meagan

    Tmobile needs to get this puppy released, like yesterday.  Mobiles being released at the same time as iPhone5 are just asking to be ignored by the media and customers.

    Very poor marketing if you wait until 2 weeks *before/after* the big ONE is released for the year.

  • Wilma Flintstone

    HEEEYYY MACARENA!!! Join the Macarena line everybody. :D

    Just reply “HEEYYY MACARENA” to get in on the fun and joy!

    • TmoNed

      HEEEYYY MACARENA!!!

      • Wilma Flintstone

        :D Thats the Spirit!!!

    • TmoNed

      HEEEYYY MACARENA!!!

  • Wilma Flintstone

    HEEEYYY MACARENA!!! Join the Macarena line everybody. :D

    Just reply “HEEYYY MACARENA” to get in on the fun and joy!

  • Vibrant_User

    A different processor?  Samsung/TMobile have already proven to us with their support of the Vibrant that they’re slow to roll out updates.  How much slower will updates be if the phone uses a completely different processor than the AT&T/Sprint phone?  

    Also, any Vibrant owner can tell you how much of a PITA having a different set of hardware has been.  Devs can take the world phone source code and put together some pretty nifty custom ROM’s but when the phone has different hardware (like the Vibrant’s GPS chip) then some functions can’t work without the source code for the phone (which Vibrant owners are not likely to ever see for Gingerbread – hence the GPS will never work quite right)Sorry but I’m leaning towards passing on this pending the outcome of the AT&T – TMobile merger and whether the Nexus Prime is available on TMobile.

  • whosaidwhat

    I think 42Mbps is nice (even though this is purely marketing), a faster processor is more important in today’s Android smartphone. The exynos chip with 21Mbps speed would have been a better device than Qualcomm’s old chip that everyone is talking about.

    Let’s think about this for a second. If they are indeed hiding this phone because of the last gen CPU, then they themselves know that this thing is not AS GOOD as the other two. I mean, it’s not like people will be for forgiving and understanding if they announce the full specs a month or two away. People will be even more pissed and ignore this piece of tech because by then, better CPU’s will be on the market or right around the corner.

    I’m hoping that they are hiding it because it actually has a really good CPU and other features not found on the other two.

  • whosaidwhat

    I think 42Mbps is nice (even though this is purely marketing), a faster processor is more important in today’s Android smartphone. The exynos chip with 21Mbps speed would have been a better device than Qualcomm’s old chip that everyone is talking about.

    Let’s think about this for a second. If they are indeed hiding this phone because of the last gen CPU, then they themselves know that this thing is not AS GOOD as the other two. I mean, it’s not like people will be for forgiving and understanding if they announce the full specs a month or two away. People will be even more pissed and ignore this piece of tech because by then, better CPU’s will be on the market or right around the corner.

    I’m hoping that they are hiding it because it actually has a really good CPU and other features not found on the other two.

    • Ron Mexico

      I like your optimism, that said it is highly unlikely. T-Mobile knows their versionis inferior and THAT is why they hid from the press.

      T-Mobile = fail

    • Ron Mexico

      I like your optimism, that said it is highly unlikely. T-Mobile knows their versionis inferior and THAT is why they hid from the press.

      T-Mobile = fail

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/CeeGee-Borela/100000183782060 CeeGee Borela

    way to screw it up Tmo, we dont need faster 4g we need a faster phone, who the hell actually uses more than 21mbps ON A PHONE????

  • Anonymous

    I can’t believe it, T-mobile is really going to downgrade the performance so we can hit 42mbps. This phone without the exynos processor isn’t a galaxy s 2, we’ve seen how poorly the qualcomm chip performs on the sensation 4 g. Extremely disappointed. I hate to fo this because I actually like T-mobile, but I may just go to sprint.

    • Anonymous

      No opinion yet from me, however, has there been a comparison between the Exynos 1.2 chip and the QC 1.5 chip? Maybe they’re more comparible in speed???  Just a thought….

  • Matlock

    F**k That sh*t! I want the damn exynos processor not the crappy uber slow Snapdragon chip that is in the Sensation. This chip is completely crap, I am not a fan of it! being a TMo employee I want to find the idiots that decided this would be a great idea, and slap the crap out of them. Just like I want to slap the dumbass that decided the Bold 9900 should be priced at 300, while all the other variants are $200, WTF!!! my friends and I were super excited to get the SGS2, now it seems that is not going to be the case. Im enraged now, CrapT&T and Sprint get the real deal while we get stuck with a poser. Honestly this device should not be branded an Galaxy S II, since it is not the real freaking deal!

  • Matlock

    F**k That sh*t! I want the damn exynos processor not the crappy uber slow Snapdragon chip that is in the Sensation. This chip is completely crap, I am not a fan of it! being a TMo employee I want to find the idiots that decided this would be a great idea, and slap the crap out of them. Just like I want to slap the dumbass that decided the Bold 9900 should be priced at 300, while all the other variants are $200, WTF!!! my friends and I were super excited to get the SGS2, now it seems that is not going to be the case. Im enraged now, CrapT&T and Sprint get the real deal while we get stuck with a poser. Honestly this device should not be branded an Galaxy S II, since it is not the real freaking deal!

    • Anonymous

      Your enraged over a phone?
      Really?
      You are comparing a phone bloated with Sense with this and we haven’t seen any testing or hands on videos.

      • Tmoguy

        You’re vs. Your

        • Anonymous

          Wow someone needs to leave their basement and get laid.

        • Anonymous

          Wow someone needs to leave their basement and get laid.

        • Anonymous

          Wow someone needs to leave their basement and get laid.

        • Blaq Jaq

          Matlock, I’m with you 100%!!

        • Blaq Jaq

          Matlock, I’m with you 100%!!

        • Blaq Jaq

          The Qualcomm Snapdragon 1.2Ghz dual core processor is not as fast as Samsung’s Exynos 1.2GHz dual-core processor. Now, in my opinion, that fact alone disqualifies The Samsung Hercules from being a part of the SGS2 line! Suddenly it becomes “That Other SGS2 phone”

        • Anonymous

          it becomes the “the infuse” lol or samsung galaxy s 1.5.

        • Blaq Jaq

          The Qualcomm Snapdragon 1.2Ghz dual core processor is not as fast as Samsung’s Exynos 1.2GHz dual-core processor. Now, in my opinion, that fact alone disqualifies The Samsung Hercules from being a part of the SGS2 line! Suddenly it becomes “That Other SGS2 phone”

        • Blaq Jaq

          The Qualcomm Snapdragon 1.2Ghz dual core processor is not as fast as Samsung’s Exynos 1.2GHz dual-core processor. Now, in my opinion, that fact alone disqualifies The Samsung Hercules from being a part of the SGS2 line! Suddenly it becomes “That Other SGS2 phone”

        • Blaq Jaq

          Matlock, I’m with you 100%!!

        • Ggvilleman

          The only one needing to leave their basement and get laid is you bro, You respond to Everyone’s post. I have been on here 10 min and have seen your name 20 times.. Maybe a little less time on Tmonews and out of your basement would be good for YOU.. 

        • Anonymous

          Oooooh burn

        • Anonymous

          Wow someone needs to leave their basement and get laid.

      • Tmoguy

        You’re vs. Your

  • Matlock

    F**k That sh*t! I want the damn exynos processor not the crappy uber slow Snapdragon chip that is in the Sensation. This chip is completely crap, I am not a fan of it! being a TMo employee I want to find the idiots that decided this would be a great idea, and slap the crap out of them. Just like I want to slap the dumbass that decided the Bold 9900 should be priced at 300, while all the other variants are $200, WTF!!! my friends and I were super excited to get the SGS2, now it seems that is not going to be the case. Im enraged now, CrapT&T and Sprint get the real deal while we get stuck with a poser. Honestly this device should not be branded an Galaxy S II, since it is not the real freaking deal!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GEHFXH67KK5NVX6X7PBMFVPXPA Infrared

    Who the hell cares about having 42Mbps capability when you are never going to get 42Mbps from Tmobs network?!?! My Sensation is “14.4Mbps capable”, but I can certainly tell you that I have NEVER reached those speeds. My fastest speed test has been about 7Mbps down and 4Mbps up, and I’m in a relatively urban area. Very few people actually live in areas where Tmobs network will support speeds past 14.4Mbps, so I can’t wait for all the complaints from people wondering why their “42Mbps” phone gets the same data speeds my Sensation gets. Let’s face it: when my carrier offers sparse network access to truly high speed data, I’ll take the faster processor over 42Mbps capability all day because I’ll ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO EXPERIENCE WHAT THE PROCESSOR CAN DO IN DAILY USE (which can’t be said for theoretical data speeds that I’ll never get).

    • http://rpad.tv RPadTV

      Do you understand the concept of a theoretical max?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GEHFXH67KK5NVX6X7PBMFVPXPA Infrared

        Enlighten me (a quick Google search doesn’t seem to show that “theoretical max” is an actual term).

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GEHFXH67KK5NVX6X7PBMFVPXPA Infrared

        Enlighten me (a quick Google search doesn’t seem to show that “theoretical max” is an actual term).

        • Auser72

          The higher the theoretical speed, the higher the average speed. It makes a big difference in stability, especially when it comes to streaming hd video content.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GEHFXH67KK5NVX6X7PBMFVPXPA Infrared

        Enlighten me (a quick Google search doesn’t seem to show that “theoretical max” is an actual term).

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GEHFXH67KK5NVX6X7PBMFVPXPA Infrared

        Enlighten me (a quick Google search doesn’t seem to show that “theoretical max” is an actual term).

  • Yup279

    This is sad news I ever heard!!!!!

  • Yup279

    This is sad news I ever heard!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    People are going nuts over a phone…so much comedy gold…as always thanks David!!!!
    We haven’t even had any hands on or comparisons.
    people are comparing this with the sensation…..really??
    comparing with a phone bloated with sense?!?!?!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GEHFXH67KK5NVX6X7PBMFVPXPA Infrared

      LOL. I’ve already flashed Sense-less ROMs on my Sensation and it’s still not as fast as a stock SGS2. The problem is that no one so far has been able to properly set up dual-core support with these asynchronous cores. The best someone has been able to do is force one of the cores to be on all the time, but that ended up sacrificing battery life while hardly affecting performance at all. So for the most part, it is reasonable to be disappointed that this SGS2 variant may be receiving an under performing Qualcomm chip vs. Samsung’s proven Exynos.

      But, if you still intend to make fun of people for “going nuts over a phone” because they are disappointed in it, then you probably shouldn’t be on a site that is dedicated to phones in the first place (“Oh look, I’m gonna go over to ‘Car Enthusiasts’ Forum’ and make fun of them for being car enthusiasts lolololol”. No s*** they’re car enthusiasts champ).

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GEHFXH67KK5NVX6X7PBMFVPXPA Infrared

      LOL. I’ve already flashed Sense-less ROMs on my Sensation and it’s still not as fast as a stock SGS2. The problem is that no one so far has been able to properly set up dual-core support with these asynchronous cores. The best someone has been able to do is force one of the cores to be on all the time, but that ended up sacrificing battery life while hardly affecting performance at all. So for the most part, it is reasonable to be disappointed that this SGS2 variant may be receiving an under performing Qualcomm chip vs. Samsung’s proven Exynos.

      But, if you still intend to make fun of people for “going nuts over a phone” because they are disappointed in it, then you probably shouldn’t be on a site that is dedicated to phones in the first place (“Oh look, I’m gonna go over to ‘Car Enthusiasts’ Forum’ and make fun of them for being car enthusiasts lolololol”. No s*** they’re car enthusiasts champ).

    • DroidDev

      Having used this device for weeks, I can tell you without doubt that there is no comparison between it and the Sensation.  The SGS2 is far superior…..by a long shot.

    • DroidDev

      Having used this device for weeks, I can tell you without doubt that there is no comparison between it and the Sensation.  The SGS2 is far superior…..by a long shot.

      • Johnthomas414

        What is so superior about it? I think it is more like apples and oranges, just depends on preference. If you have a thunderbolt single core it will out perform dual cores on another network like At t because Verizon network is better.

      • Johnthomas414

        What is so superior about it? I think it is more like apples and oranges, just depends on preference. If you have a thunderbolt single core it will out perform dual cores on another network like At t because Verizon network is better.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GEHFXH67KK5NVX6X7PBMFVPXPA Infrared

          Are you freaking serious? When we’re discussing what processor is better, that is to do with the performance of the phone in terms of UI and overall smoothness. We’re discussing processors, not what phone will get better data speeds on what network LOL.

      • Johnthomas414

        What is so superior about it? I think it is more like apples and oranges, just depends on preference. If you have a thunderbolt single core it will out perform dual cores on another network like At t because Verizon network is better.

    • DroidDev

      Having used this device for weeks, I can tell you without doubt that there is no comparison between it and the Sensation.  The SGS2 is far superior…..by a long shot.

  • Anonymous

    People are going nuts over a phone…so much comedy gold…as always thanks David!!!!
    We haven’t even had any hands on or comparisons.
    people are comparing this with the sensation…..really??
    comparing with a phone bloated with sense?!?!?!

  • Anonymous

    People are going nuts over a phone…so much comedy gold…as always thanks David!!!!
    We haven’t even had any hands on or comparisons.
    people are comparing this with the sensation…..really??
    comparing with a phone bloated with sense?!?!?!

  • http://profiles.google.com/nbhnohome Hien Nguyen

    Qualcomm Processor is fine. Just give me the 1280×720 4.5 inch display.

    • J-Hop2o6

      It will be even slower trying to push (draw) almost 2x the pixels of WVGA (840×480).

    • J-Hop2o6

      It will be even slower trying to push (draw) almost 2x the pixels of WVGA (840×480).

  • DroidDev

    This article is nothing more than speculation.  Cant believe peeps are getting mad over something that is being misrepresented or misinterpreted as fact.  I guess you can take solace in the fact that the majority of your readers have no clue what they are talking about either T-MoNews. :)

    • Rayfinn

      Just a thought BUT…  Could it possibly be TMO is awaiting the outcome of the SO-CALLED MERGER that may or may not be blocked and with all the expedited replies from the At&T and TMOs’ BENCH D-TELECOM, maybe /possibly they are deciding on what network the phone should really be capable of working on -since the outcome of the Merger could and will effect many consumers with 2 year contracts.  Many may not want to be ON AT&T’s network and will the phone from either company work smooth during the transition , and think of all the $$$ either company must put out to SAMMY for the phones to work on ‘which network’ will be the one decided on.   Me thinks its all about the SO-called MERG.  just a thought, but if I where a CEOS’ with their heads’ on the chopping block -especially with the economy outlook one might be prudent to get the facts before committing to anything until they could see the trees from the forest.  On the other hand the BIG S and  MR. Hesse has titanium ball-bearings, but then again they are not merging with another company and are making things work on their network, although I’m sure they have many things cooking on the back burners…  
      Just some things that make you go HMMM !

      • Reyfinn

        P.S.  Its really not about the consumers indirectly  its more and always will be about the consumers $$$…
        They don’t call it BIG BUSINESS and MAJOR CORPORATIONS by mistake !
        HOW do you think they become a BIG BUSINESS or MAJOR CORPORATION ?
        VIA consumer $$$/EUROS’ etc.

        * DroidDev- not inference meant to you, just popped in a reply since you are correct, we are all just sheep being played for are $$$ and have no real knowledge of whats behind the curtain-as in the WIZOFOZ- “DO NOT LOOK BEHIND THE CURTAIN”…

      • Reyfinn

        P.S.  Its really not about the consumers indirectly  its more and always will be about the consumers $$$…
        They don’t call it BIG BUSINESS and MAJOR CORPORATIONS by mistake !
        HOW do you think they become a BIG BUSINESS or MAJOR CORPORATION ?
        VIA consumer $$$/EUROS’ etc.

        * DroidDev- not inference meant to you, just popped in a reply since you are correct, we are all just sheep being played for are $$$ and have no real knowledge of whats behind the curtain-as in the WIZOFOZ- “DO NOT LOOK BEHIND THE CURTAIN”…

  • DroidDev

    This article is nothing more than speculation.  Cant believe peeps are getting mad over something that is being misrepresented or misinterpreted as fact.  I guess you can take solace in the fact that the majority of your readers have no clue what they are talking about either T-MoNews. :)

  • DroidDev

    This article is nothing more than speculation.  Cant believe peeps are getting mad over something that is being misrepresented or misinterpreted as fact.  I guess you can take solace in the fact that the majority of your readers have no clue what they are talking about either T-MoNews. :)

  • DroidDev

    This article is nothing more than speculation.  Cant believe peeps are getting mad over something that is being misrepresented or misinterpreted as fact.  I guess you can take solace in the fact that the majority of your readers have no clue what they are talking about either T-MoNews. :)

  • http://twitter.com/iDiotGear Rob Daman

    They just couldn’t wait because they want Tmo suscribers to get all anxious and sign up to lock themselves into a contract for 2 more years. I jumped quick with the 1st Galaxy phone and I’m glad I returned it.

  • http://twitter.com/iDiotGear Rob Daman

    They just couldn’t wait because they want Tmo suscribers to get all anxious and sign up to lock themselves into a contract for 2 more years. I jumped quick with the 1st Galaxy phone and I’m glad I returned it.

  • Manit Suri

    I don’t like Qualcomm’s dual core snapdragon, they are run slower then Samsung’s I know that.  Both the Sensation and S 2 prove.  Both loaded with heavy bloated skins but the S 2 hardly ever if at all slows down, Sense gets bogged down easily, needs a better CPU + more RAM, at least 1 – 1.5 for sense these days. Just imagine a pure stock android on the S2?

    • DroidDev

      I have run Vanilla on the SGS2….and to be honest there was not much of a speed improvement. While I loathe TouchWiz and Sense equally, the stock TouchWiz load on the T-Mo SGS2 is surprisingly quick.  I have yet to hit a point using the phone where it lags at all.

    • DroidDev

      I have run Vanilla on the SGS2….and to be honest there was not much of a speed improvement. While I loathe TouchWiz and Sense equally, the stock TouchWiz load on the T-Mo SGS2 is surprisingly quick.  I have yet to hit a point using the phone where it lags at all.

  • Manit Suri

    I don’t like Qualcomm’s dual core snapdragon, they are run slower then Samsung’s I know that.  Both the Sensation and S 2 prove.  Both loaded with heavy bloated skins but the S 2 hardly ever if at all slows down, Sense gets bogged down easily, needs a better CPU + more RAM, at least 1 – 1.5 for sense these days. Just imagine a pure stock android on the S2?

  • Anonymous

    yep i knew it! t-mobile welcomes galaxy s 1.5 with crappy qualcom and after couple of months release SGS2 with exynos.just like what they did with galaxy s.

  • Matlock

    My Galaxy S was stolen at a 24 hour fitness. I put up a Facebook page for it asking that every person in China and North Korea get to hold it after the criminals are done with it. With that being said, I look forward to the Galaxy S II. Samsung, please send me a new phone. My mind is Limitless.

  • Matlock

    My Galaxy S was stolen at a 24 hour fitness. I put up a Facebook page for it asking that every person in China and North Korea get to hold it after the criminals are done with it. With that being said, I look forward to the Galaxy S II. Samsung, please send me a new phone. My mind is Limitless.

  • therealweenie

    I went to the keys on Vacation and downloaded a Water Prof app for my galaxy s, just in case of water damage… It didn’t work so now i am waiting for this beautifully genius man made peace of technology to come out

  • Anonymous

    well lets hope they keep the exynos or an equal to it because tmobile would really kick themselves if they chose a slower processor