Is Deutsche Telekom Ignoring T-Mobile USA While AT&T Deal Awaits Approval?

While we await Deutsche Telekom and T-Mobile USA’s second quarter numbers set to be released sometime tomorrow an article coming out of Bloomberg shows analyst concern that T-Mobile USA is being left behind by their parent company. T-Mobile USA is expected to see a net contract customer loss of close to 350,000 customers from last quarter according to UniCredit SpA analyst Thomas Friedrich. That would  bring their total contract losses from the last quarter of 2010 to more than 1 million leaving just 25.6 million contract customers on the network out of less than 33 million in total. T-Mobile USA has all but dropped their plans to build out an LTE network on top of their existing HSPA+ network in light of the March 20th deal to sell to AT&T.

The March 20th deal to sell T-Mobile USA to AT&T faces opposition from some U.S. lawmakers, who say the creation of the largest U.S. wireless operator would increase fees and stifle competition. T-Mobile, already losing customers because it doesn’t carry Apple Inc.’s iPhone, risks further defections after it dropped plans to build a faster network based on technology used by rivals including Verizon Wireless.

Furthermore, since the first quarter of 2011 Deutsche Telekom has placed T-Mobile USA as “discontinued operations” in its earnings report. While T-Mobile USA accounted for 26% of Deutsche Telekom revenue in 2010 there is concern from the Deutsche Telekom board that CEO Rene Obermann isn’t doing enough to ensure that T-Mobile USA remains competitive as the AT&T deal faces an uphill regulatory review. While T-Mobile stands to receive $3 billion in cash and over $3 billion more in spectrum from AT&T should the deal not receive approval there is a clear concern that T-Mobile isn’t doing enough to retain customers.

Still, with customers already wary of signing contracts amid unclear ownership of the brand, T-Mobile USA isn’t doing enough to retain them with popular devices and new marketing initiatives, said Courtney Munroe, an analyst at Framingham, Massachusetts-based IDC. -Mobile “is not as edgy as they used to be,” he said. “AT&T has been very aggressive. Verizon has done surprisingly well. Sprint arrested its downward spiral. They’ve gotten good devices. The competition has gotten very stiff.”

The median estimate for T-Mobile USA’s contract-customer losses during the second quarter was around 200,000 according to a survey of eight analysts. The bottom line remains that T-Mobile USA has lost the confidence of their Deutsche Telekom overlords which risks T-Mobile’s already precarious position as the AT&T deal continues the regulatory approval process.

Bloomberg

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  • Richardthegrape

    Welll… they haven’t lost me yet, My contract doesn’t expire till 8/03/2013.
    If the deal goes through, I’m paying the etf and saying good bye to At&T-Mobile and saying hello to being without a wireless provider for awhile! Haha

    • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

      Imma join that bandwagon w/ you. I been out of contract since June/July. So, I’m just waiting out my options.

      • Richardthegrape

        I was going to do that, I was out of contract, up until a month ago, with a spur of the moment plan change that required a two year agreement I didn’t pay attention to. …that and my Nexus S upgrade I took Best Buy up on today haha

  • http://rpad.tv RPadTV

    An “uphill regulatory review” means nothing. Sadly, special interests will see the merger go through. It doesn’t matter that the merger will stifle competition and mobile Internet innovation. It’s being backed by big businesses that make a lot of campaign contributions.

  • http://rpad.tv RPadTV

    An “uphill regulatory review” means nothing. Sadly, special interests will see the merger go through. It doesn’t matter that the merger will stifle competition and mobile Internet innovation. It’s being backed by big businesses that make a lot of campaign contributions.

  • http://rpad.tv RPadTV

    Why would you cancel automatically? If AT&T changes the terms of your contract then you’ll be able to cancel without an ETF.

  • Ebonicsman

    Haha like a flaming dog turd

  • Jesus.C

    Well all knew that Deutsche Telekom gave up on T-mobile USA the day they didn’t fight to get the iPhone

  • Jesus.C

    Well all knew that Deutsche Telekom gave up on T-mobile USA the day they didn’t fight to get the iPhone

  • Jesus.C

    Well all knew that Deutsche Telekom gave up on T-mobile USA the day they didn’t fight to get the iPhone

  • Jesus.C

    Well all knew that Deutsche Telekom gave up on T-mobile USA the day they didn’t fight to get the iPhone

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YZYZDJ7XT5VBWZEWZHSQYSOCQU Erick

    Well you know the reason why Tmo lost a lot of customers is because of the merge deal that is happening. Who the F’ wants to be with AT&T? When I had cingular and found out it merged with AT&T. I got out and went to Tmobile. Now Tmo is gettin bought out. Who do i run to now? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YZYZDJ7XT5VBWZEWZHSQYSOCQU Erick

    Well you know the reason why Tmo lost a lot of customers is because of the merge deal that is happening. Who the F’ wants to be with AT&T? When I had cingular and found out it merged with AT&T. I got out and went to Tmobile. Now Tmo is gettin bought out. Who do i run to now? 

    • Anonymous

      I make sure i don’t follow you or else att will end up buying the provider you’re in. jk.

    • Dpro

      You realize you do not know what you are talking about? Cingular did not merge with AT&T. They bought them. SBC is the parent company who owns Cingular, who bought AT&T wireless. After that they bought AT&T long distance land lines because SBC owns land lines as well. They then changed the company name to AT&T.
      Seriously Cingular sucked before they bought AT&T wireless. Its why I left the minute T-Mobile became available in Los Angeles.

      get your facts straight before posting.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YZYZDJ7XT5VBWZEWZHSQYSOCQU Erick

        Ummmm hello???? buying them is merging them together. Just like this merger is happening with Tmo right now. I think i do know what im talking about retard.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YZYZDJ7XT5VBWZEWZHSQYSOCQU Erick

        Ummmm hello???? buying them is merging them together. Just like this merger is happening with Tmo right now. I think i do know what im talking about retard.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YZYZDJ7XT5VBWZEWZHSQYSOCQU Erick

        Ummmm hello???? buying them is merging them together. Just like this merger is happening with Tmo right now. I think i do know what im talking about retard.

    • Dpro

      You realize you do not know what you are talking about? Cingular did not merge with AT&T. They bought them. SBC is the parent company who owns Cingular, who bought AT&T wireless. After that they bought AT&T long distance land lines because SBC owns land lines as well. They then changed the company name to AT&T.
      Seriously Cingular sucked before they bought AT&T wireless. Its why I left the minute T-Mobile became available in Los Angeles.

      get your facts straight before posting.

  • ColdFeet

    More proof that people want something more than low cost wireless service? The good news… less people clogging up our network!

    • Anonymous

      whole fat lot that will get us if we are swallowed whole by ATT

    • Anonymous

      whole fat lot that will get us if we are swallowed whole by ATT

  • Lu

    TMO’s focus wasn’t on keeping there current customers, it was getting new ones(hence all the advertisement on TV nowadays, more on that later), the cheaper plans(which current long time customers are upset about because they would have to pay a migration fee for a cheaper plan after being with the company for years), I mean even prepaid monthly has been cheaper than having a contract, and that’s what TMO is missing, a plan…like who’s idea was it to promote the Sidekick 4G all over TV?? if you pass a store, there not advertising the Sensation, there’s poster for the Gravity Smart instead…Sprint has the Evo, AT&T has the iPhone, Verizon has that and the Thunderbolt being advertised….what’s TMO known for? Sidekicks…in 2011…and yeah we may know the Sensation is a great phone, but if there not gonna promote it, then it won’t matter..there such common sense little things, yet they’ve just added up to this point where now there panicking and trying a million different things which we’ve all seen recently…but what’s for the better? CC is a pain now, restocking fees went from $10 to $50, etc, etc…were seeing more bad than good and the good that we are seeing maybe just a bit to late at this point

  • Nextstep

    Leaving T-Mobile after 6 months and going back to AT&T.

    T-mobile has the worst network of the big four. I lose 3G/4G in several places and go to 2G/Edge which is like 80kbps and lose reception in buildings 40% of the time. T-mobile has to have better phones but only because their network sucks and have to attract customers with phones.

    T-mobile 3G/4G network uses 1700mhz upload and 2100mhz download frequencies, you grab the phone and lose half your reception because your hand block those frequencies.

    AT&T 850 & 1900 with 700mhz for LTE
    Verizon 850 & 1900 with 700mhz for LTE
    Sprint 850 & 1900 with 2500mhz for 4G (Clearwire 4G sucks because of high frequencies)

    T-Mobile 1900mhz (edge) 1700/2100 3G/4G.

    If you only make calls you might be ok with T-mobile. For data, your on Edge 40% of the time outside. Inside of buildings 60% of the time on Edge/2G and 40% out of service/no network.

    Cant wait for AT&T to buy T-mobile, will have on Kick ass GSM network with coverage like or maybe better than Verizon. WIth both networks together AT&T’s Low band for indoors and T-mobile’s high band for outside reception.

    • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

      Every carrier have their dead spots.

      Speak for yourself, my area T-mo is better.
      Only have a 3G phone and getting at best 5Mbps down, in my house best was 2.5Mbps down.

      Switch the phone to 3G(WCDMA) only, it will stay at 3G.

      On att and verzion, you just use 1 finger and touch the iphone4 and it loses singles, so what’s your point?

      • Anonymous

        I once tried that forced 3G mode but didn’t like the fact that when I did run into a bonafide 3G dead zone, I lost signal completely instead of dropping back down to 2G.  YMMV.

        • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

          There are apps that, you can, auto 3G when mobile data enable, and 2G when data is off.

          There are also widgets that can switch between 2G only/3G only/2G+3G….with just one button press.

          Maybe these will help you?

        • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

          There are apps that, you can, auto 3G when mobile data enable, and 2G when data is off.

          There are also widgets that can switch between 2G only/3G only/2G+3G….with just one button press.

          Maybe these will help you?

    • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

      Every carrier have their dead spots.

      Speak for yourself, my area T-mo is better.
      Only have a 3G phone and getting at best 5Mbps down, in my house best was 2.5Mbps down.

      Switch the phone to 3G(WCDMA) only, it will stay at 3G.

      On att and verzion, you just use 1 finger and touch the iphone4 and it loses singles, so what’s your point?

    • Anonymous

      No, T-Mobile has the worst network in YOUR area. I traveled to New York about a month ago, had Slacker Radio all the way up, only lost 3G where it was obvious not very many people lived. Like small towns I crossed to get a nice view and experience, not just on the highways. It also depends on the construction of the building, people I know with Verizon (has “best” coverage” have lost all bars inside some offices while I still got 1 or 2 bars of 3G. T-Mobile has great phones, Mytouch 4G Slide, HTC Sensation 4G, LG G2X, Samsung Galaxy 4G, hell, even the Mytouch 4G has good specs.

      Uhhmm you must have a terrible phone. The only way I lose ANY bars on my Samsung Vibrant is by trying to awkwardly cover the whole bottom of it (which is where the antenna usually is nowadays, due to the FCC). Try getting a modern phone?

      This is true. They have to use the highest frequencies for their network, which makes it harder for them to get a signal to users, but they’re done a great job with it. Oh, and never experienced slow speeds because the network is congested… cough at&t cough.

      How did you get these numbers? Did you go in every square mile of the United States and try your theory out? You do know there’s roaming right? Which is free to post paid customers, not pre paid that I know of.

      Oh yes, with the way AT&T manages their network, ridiculous data plan prices, 200 MB for $15 or 2 GB for $30, the customer service, and their handsets (No, I am not an iFan, the lack of variety of high end Android phones, Atrix, Infuse, and Inspire, are disappointing just don’t cut it), I will gladly sell my Vibrant to some fool who thinks AT&T is the latest and greatest, and move to Sprint.

    • Anonymous

      Sprint doesn’t have 850 spectrum, they have a few slithers of 800MHz spectrum and it’s being used by Nextel iDEN.

      T-Mobile’s 4G network is “1700″ not 1700/2100. I’m sick of people, especially morons (aka you) listing it as otherwise. It does include 2100MHz but you don’t list it as such.

      I rarely lose coverage inside of buildings, and going by bars will get you no where. At my house the signal drops from 4 to 2-3 because 4 bars represents over -40dBm of signal strength with an Android device and 3 bars only represents -7dBm of signal. Going from -89dBm (4 bars) to -99dBm(2 bars) is a normal loss in signal strength, not big or dramatic and it happens on every carrier depending on where the antenna is.

      • The Truth

        “I rarely lose coverage inside of buildings” Really? Not trying to be mean or start an argument but, most of the buildings I went in with my t-mo phone i lost signal except for department stores and walmarts of course. Not from 4 bars to 1 or 2. No signal.

        • Anonymous

          Of course, it depends on the construction of the building. I lose signal or get a bar of EDGE if I’m in the CD/DVD section of my local Target, but retain it anywhere in Wal-Mart, Publix, Best Buy. And obviously, depends how strong the signal was to begin with.

        • ColdFeet

          I actually lose my service inside of both Walmarts here in town. Closer to the back of the store…

        • Anonymous

          everyones area is different. i live by philly so i have next to no issues. but there are places in which tmobile isnt going to have the same reach. but that can go for any company.

        • Anonymous

          everyones area is different. i live by philly so i have next to no issues. but there are places in which tmobile isnt going to have the same reach. but that can go for any company.

    • Anonymous

      Sprint doesn’t have 850 spectrum, they have a few slithers of 800MHz spectrum and it’s being used by Nextel iDEN.

      T-Mobile’s 4G network is “1700″ not 1700/2100. I’m sick of people, especially morons (aka you) listing it as otherwise. It does include 2100MHz but you don’t list it as such.

      I rarely lose coverage inside of buildings, and going by bars will get you no where. At my house the signal drops from 4 to 2-3 because 4 bars represents over -40dBm of signal strength with an Android device and 3 bars only represents -7dBm of signal. Going from -89dBm (4 bars) to -99dBm(2 bars) is a normal loss in signal strength, not big or dramatic and it happens on every carrier depending on where the antenna is.

    • Rratt78

      I Agree same thing happened with me and tmobile so went to AT&T and got the iPhone son signal or data issues

    • Rratt78

      I Agree same thing happened with me and tmobile so went to AT&T and got the iPhone son signal or data issues

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/35HLVJSI34LMH5M274SCGWDZBY mike

    Sounds more like the CEO of DT is behind everything, not the board. Is it personal, since the Board disapproves of his handling of T mo?? Hmm.. Maybe the DOJ should check his PERSONAL portfolio before they approve this deal???

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/35HLVJSI34LMH5M274SCGWDZBY mike

    Sounds more like the CEO of DT is behind everything, not the board. Is it personal, since the Board disapproves of his handling of T mo?? Hmm.. Maybe the DOJ should check his PERSONAL portfolio before they approve this deal???

  • Anonymous

    nothing new here, we on the inside have seen it, the funding and the sheer fact that the parent were done footing the bill for the build and the expensive proposition of going LTE.  Like it or not they were shopping us around to sell whole or in part :( 

  • TMoFan

    What a sorry bunch of inept buffoons. They sunk us, and now they’re selling us out. If I wasn’t under contact I wouldn’t sign one now and would bail the minute the approval of this sellout is announced from the FCC and DoJ. Now I hope I’m one of the lucky ones who would be divested. I may even pony up the ETF just to get rid of at&t. There may not be many choices left, but at&t will have to buy out all the competition before they get me as a customer. Now more than ever am I really rooting for Sprint!

    Just think, in some parallel universe T-Mobile is actually buying out at&t!

    • Richardthegrape

      But to think in that parallel universe it would be T-Mobile everyone hates?

  • TMoFan

    What a sorry bunch of inept buffoons. They sunk us, and now they’re selling us out. If I wasn’t under contact I wouldn’t sign one now and would bail the minute the approval of this sellout is announced from the FCC and DoJ. Now I hope I’m one of the lucky ones who would be divested. I may even pony up the ETF just to get rid of at&t. There may not be many choices left, but at&t will have to buy out all the competition before they get me as a customer. Now more than ever am I really rooting for Sprint!

    Just think, in some parallel universe T-Mobile is actually buying out at&t!

  • Jarrod

     I wish T-Mobile USA would just break it off with DT so we could have our independence and do things in our favor and build our network to meet the needs of America and not the needs of their wallet. Its so annyoing having to listen to merger talk, T-Mobile has great coverage in my area and works where version and sprint barley do and the only other option is att and there prices are horrible and from what i understand att isn’t that good in our area so that would mean i would have unreliable service with every provider if they got bought.

    • J. Williams

      Agreed. 

    • Anonymous

      if they did, there’d be NO MONEY to build out, then the company would have to go public and you thought being w/ the evil death star would be bad now you have to answer to stock holders that cares only for the bottom line.

      Deal or not w/ ATT TMO USA is going on the block if this deal doesnt go through in whole or in part. 

      • Anonymous

        You’re right on the money. If the merger doesn’t go through, they’ll carve T-Mobile up and sell it off in pieces to the highest bidder. I hope for the sake of whatever employees remain that the merger goes through as planned. It’s a terrible deal for consumers, but it might be the best hope to save the greatest number of jobs. 

        • Anonymous

          the morale in my department is crap everyone’s lost their motivation my manager has checked out it’s just weird, i’ve been in this rodeo before and it never gets easy

        • Anonymous

          I bet it’s kind of surreal, huh?

          I can relate, years ago I worked in sales for a division of Time-Warner that was being shut down. (This is during the time of the ill fated AOL Time Warner merger) It was a strange experience.Best of luck my friend. 

        • Anonymous

          I bet it’s kind of surreal, huh?

          I can relate, years ago I worked in sales for a division of Time-Warner that was being shut down. (This is during the time of the ill fated AOL Time Warner merger) It was a strange experience.Best of luck my friend. 

      • Anonymous

        You’re right on the money. If the merger doesn’t go through, they’ll carve T-Mobile up and sell it off in pieces to the highest bidder. I hope for the sake of whatever employees remain that the merger goes through as planned. It’s a terrible deal for consumers, but it might be the best hope to save the greatest number of jobs. 

  • http://www.unscripted360.com Deacon

    the problem is you just don’t have any phone on TMO that stands out.  the Sensation? nope.  the 4G Slide?  nope.  they have way too many eggs so to speak and customers just don’t know which is the best to get.  couple that with the merger with ATT and no wonder they’re losing customers so rapidly.

    DT is stupid yet incredibly smart at the same time lol … either way they come out on top. deal or no deal. 

    but they really need to cut out this phone madness they’re notorious for.  stick to a flagship line be that the myTouch line or what .. make it YOUR baby .. make the one phone on TMO better than any other .. then push it .. and offer smaller alternatives as opposed to the dozens of comparable ones that have no distinguishing factor really at least in consumer’s eyes.

    • Majenta Rulz

      How can you say the Sensation doesn’t stand out.  It is one of HTC’s best phones.  How about the G2X? Both devices received the Cnet editors choice award.  T-Mobile may have had a poor smartphone lineup in the past, but now its gotten pretty darn good.  I will agree with one thing you said however, the mytouch line up… boo.

      • ColdFeet

        I think it’s more that T-Mobile doesn’t push them. The Sensation’s a kick ass phone. It’s just that they don’t do much advertising for it.

        • Richardthegrape

          Agreed, I bet if T-Mobile really pushed some heavy advertisements for the Sensation, they’d see more results

        • Richardthegrape

          Agreed, I bet if T-Mobile really pushed some heavy advertisements for the Sensation, they’d see more results

        • http://www.unscripted360.com Deacon

          exactly .. it’s not a knock on the Sensation .. it’s a knock on TMO’s stupid strategy of not identifying the ONE phone that brings people in to identify with the company.. what is that phone?  no one knows and that’s why consumers continue to get lost because they see it as a bargain bin company when in reality it has some of the better phones now … but no one will ever know because their marketing is all over the place.

      • Anonymous

        no matter how nice these phones are you still need a HALO device that drives customers to the store.  The Iphone is that device.  Surely VZW and ATT dont sell only iphones but people come into the store to look at the iphone and price them and then see other alternatives…that’s what TMO USA needs they need in on the 5th gen iphone to stop help stop the customers from leaving

        • Anonymous

          and verizon has the DROID and sprint has the EVO, tmobs tried with the mytouch. but who are we kidding, their flagship device is fisher price for android. dont get me wrong, i love my mytouch slide, but the damn thing works ten times better when rooted.

        • Kevinmarchibald

          Surprised T-Mobile didn’t quickly release an Exynos-based Galaxy S II within a month or so after the highly successful European release. That would have a generated a bunch of new and returning customers. That’s the one I’ve been waiting for, and now I will likely go to Verizon to get it, unless there’s a leak soon that the Hercules is Exynos-based.

    • Anonymous

      I’d like to thank our ex CEO Dotson for turning down the iPhone and was short sighted enough and i dont know if it’s arrogance or lack of information to think that DATA was not part of the company’s future…what a farse 

    • Anonymous

      I’d like to thank our ex CEO Dotson for turning down the iPhone and was short sighted enough and i dont know if it’s arrogance or lack of information to think that DATA was not part of the company’s future…what a farse 

      • H8stylist

        it could also be the amount of cash that apple wanted to be exclusive to the carrier.  att definitely had more cash in the coffers to throw at apple than tmobile did (can’t count DT as the two operate separately, as shown when DT obtained the iphone for tmobile europe).  

        • Anonymous

          it definitely is, the buy in aka commitment on x units is high, but how high is the cost of a customer leaving the company? DT had the benefit of seeing the explosion in the US and so they did what it took to get it.  Dotson, wasnt down w/ it and that is where TMO jumped the shark

        • Anonymous

          I exchanged a few emails with Robert Dotson in his last few days at T-Mobile. He seemed like a nice guy, I wish him well. 

          I don’t disagree with your assessment though, T-Mobile should have done whatever it took to get the iPhone, it’s a shame that things went the way they did. 

        • Anonymous

          I exchanged a few emails with Robert Dotson in his last few days at T-Mobile. He seemed like a nice guy, I wish him well. 

          I don’t disagree with your assessment though, T-Mobile should have done whatever it took to get the iPhone, it’s a shame that things went the way they did. 

        • Anonymous

          he’s a nice guy dont get me wrong but as a CEO he has to have a vision to see the company through and anticipate changes in the marketplace.  

        • Anonymous

          I can’t argue with that. I think you called it the way it is.

        • Anonymous

          I exchanged a few emails with Robert Dotson in his last few days at T-Mobile. He seemed like a nice guy, I wish him well. 

          I don’t disagree with your assessment though, T-Mobile should have done whatever it took to get the iPhone, it’s a shame that things went the way they did. 

        • InvisibleHand

          I remember Dotson (Bobby-D) stopping by our store with the Shadow a few months before it came out way back in the day and all of us asked the same question: “is it a touchscreen”? The rest is history.

      • H8stylist

        it could also be the amount of cash that apple wanted to be exclusive to the carrier.  att definitely had more cash in the coffers to throw at apple than tmobile did (can’t count DT as the two operate separately, as shown when DT obtained the iphone for tmobile europe).  

      • H8stylist

        it could also be the amount of cash that apple wanted to be exclusive to the carrier.  att definitely had more cash in the coffers to throw at apple than tmobile did (can’t count DT as the two operate separately, as shown when DT obtained the iphone for tmobile europe).  

  • Anonymous

    this makes me so freaking sad.  It makes me feel like im working on a ship and is slowly sinking, and there isnt anything i can do.

    • Richardthegrape

      Plug one hole, another one cracks open spouting more water then the last haha

      • InvisibleHand

        If not three.

    • Richardthegrape

      Plug one hole, another one cracks open spouting more water then the last haha

    • Anonymous

      Good luck with everything :) Hopefully you’re one of the ones who will get to stay on after the merger, and then, if nothing else, your wages will probably go up. (AT&T is unionized and the pay scale is significantly higher than T-Mobile’s) 

      If you move on though, best wishes. (I left T-Mobile a year ago, so I can empathize with what you’re going through.)

    • Anonymous

      Good luck with everything :) Hopefully you’re one of the ones who will get to stay on after the merger, and then, if nothing else, your wages will probably go up. (AT&T is unionized and the pay scale is significantly higher than T-Mobile’s) 

      If you move on though, best wishes. (I left T-Mobile a year ago, so I can empathize with what you’re going through.)

      • OKD

        Union thuggery is one of the reasons the Democrats seem largely in the hip pocket of AT&T on this merger. The unions stand to gain several thousand members among those who survive the merger, stuffing more money in union coffers while not caring one crap about the much higher number of people that will lose their jobs if this hideous merger goes through. That’s the real tragedy.

        • Anonymous

          Well, I think the real tragedy is that organized labor in America has become so ineffectual that big businesses are free to lay off thousands of workers at a time without a seconds hesitation. 

          It’s terrible that so many American workers are either unemployed or employed at a wage that can barely put keep a roof over their head while corporations post record profits and lavish astounding bonuses on their executives who live in multi-million dollar palaces while millions of Americans wonder where their next meal is going to come from. That’s a tragedy.

          Unions may have faults, and some of them do very little for their workers, but its a fact that AT&T’s unionized workforce is compensated significantly better than T-Mobile’s non-unionized workforce. So, for the employees who are able to keep their jobs, it will be a win, and that’s about the only positive thing to come out of this merger. 

          The truth is, Deutsche Telekom has given up on their North American business. They want out, and if the merger fails, they will find another exit, and that will likely be an exit that involves selling off the company piece by piece to the highest bidder, an outcome which will almost surely mean that nobody at T-Mobile gets to keep their jobs. 

          Sometimes life involves picking the lesser of two evils, and I think the lesser evil here is for the merger to take place as planned. For the employees at least.
          For the customers, the merger is an unqualified disaster. They will be stuck in a marketplace that is dominated by a politically connected duopoly that will take an act of God to unseat. Prices will rise, options will narrow, and everyone will suffer. 

          Some will stay because they want iPhones, some will stay because for whatever reason they can’t get service with the other carriers and prepaid is unattractive to them, most will stay out of sheer inertia. Many, myself included, will jump ship.

        • InvisibleHand

          I quit reading after your second paragraph. Unions are mostly bad because they try to demand a wage that the economy cannot sustain. In a free market, people need to be allowed to work for what they want. People will complain about the high cost of at&t and then in the same breath ask for job security and no layoffs. It  doesn’t work that way.

        • InvisibleHand

          I quit reading after your second paragraph. Unions are mostly bad because they try to demand a wage that the economy cannot sustain. In a free market, people need to be allowed to work for what they want. People will complain about the high cost of at&t and then in the same breath ask for job security and no layoffs. It  doesn’t work that way.

        • Anonymous

          The economy seems to be able to sustain multi million dollar bonuses for bankers and corporate executives, so I fail to see why it couldn’t sustain living wages for the workers whose labor provides the profit that allows those bankers and CEO’s to enjoy their lavish lifestyle, private jets and houses in the Hamptons. 

          You must be living in a bubble if you think that people actually want to work for minimum wage, or something barely above that. And if you think that the destruction of the blue collar middle class and the widening gap between the rich and the poor is good for America, than I guess you haven’t been paying attention. 

          Neoliberal economics has been a disaster for everyone except the richest of the rich. I see people every single day who were middle class, five, ten years ago, and who are now living in poverty, often on the edge of homelessness. That population is getting bigger, not smaller. 

          But someday, mark my words, all the chickens will come home to roost. When that day arrives, you don’t want to be on the wrong side of history. 

        • InvisibleHand

          In other news: executives receiving million dollar bonuses are not unionized. You must live in a bubble to believe that you must rely on someone else to earn your wage. The disappearance of the middle class is economic darwinism. Why should someone who worked hard to get rich be forced to close the income gap by giving money to someone who chose a different path in life? In life, you make choices. Sometimes you make the wrong ones and you have to live with them and not rely on someone else to bail you out. I’m not saying that it wouldn’t be nice if the rich helped the poor but they damned well shouldn’t be forced to.

        • InvisibleHand

          In other news: executives receiving million dollar bonuses are not unionized. You must live in a bubble to believe that you must rely on someone else to earn your wage. The disappearance of the middle class is economic darwinism. Why should someone who worked hard to get rich be forced to close the income gap by giving money to someone who chose a different path in life? In life, you make choices. Sometimes you make the wrong ones and you have to live with them and not rely on someone else to bail you out. I’m not saying that it wouldn’t be nice if the rich helped the poor but they damned well shouldn’t be forced to.

        • Anonymous

          Well, I’m going to be charitable and assume that you aren’t implying that the death of American organized labor will lead to everyone getting multi-million dollar bonuses. I presume that any thinking person, no matter how ideologically wedded they might be to Milton Freidman the Chicago School of economics understands that bankers and executives receive astronomical levels of compensation because they give that compensation to themselves. I don’t think its a stretch to assume that if I’m the CEO, and the compensation committee is filled with my golf buddies, it’s probably not terribly difficult to convince them to pay me well for my efforts. 

          And I’m not for an instant suggesting that CEO’s and bankers don’t deserve to be well paid for their contributions. I am however, saying that they might deserve to be paid not quite so much, and perhaps all the little people who work for them at the bottom rungs of corporate America deserve a little more, at least enough to keep the bills paid.

          It’s funny how people who were born into a certain social class, or who have amassed a great deal of wealth, can be so dismissive of the other people they share a country with. But, I guess it’s not that funny, since history is replete of wealthy oligarchs who lived lavish lifestyles while everyone around them starved. 

          Why would someone who is rich want to see the income gap closed between them and the masses whose labor supports their lifestyle? Well, you might want to ask the French aristocrats that question, of course they aren’t around to answer, but I suspect if they were, and they had the benefit of hindsight, they might tell you that maybe it wasn’t such a grand idea to live in luxury while the lower class fought for scraps. Things didn’t work out so well in the end. 

          It’s strange how so many people speak of “social Darwinism” or “economic Darwinism” as if a Darwinian struggle for existence is something to which we should all aspire. In the law of the jungle, only the strong survive. Well, there is strength in numbers, and the poor vastly outnumber the rich, and their numbers are only growing larger. 

          Those who would dismiss the plight of an increasingly impoverished American working class would do well to remember the lessons of history.

        • InvisibleHand

          Comparing us to the french huh? Classy.

        • Anonymous

          Sure, why not? Are you under the impression that there is something unique about Americans?

        • InvisibleHand

          Comparing us to the french huh? Classy.

        • InvisibleHand

          Comparing us to the french huh? Classy.

        • InvisibleHand

          Comparing us to the french huh? Classy.

        • n900mixalot

          That thinking is exactly what is wrong with America. Choice is a luxury and always has been. Marie Antoinette lost her head over thinking like that. Aristotle even knew there was more to it quite some time ago.

        • n900mixalot

          That thinking is exactly what is wrong with America. Choice is a luxury and always has been. Marie Antoinette lost her head over thinking like that. Aristotle even knew there was more to it quite some time ago.

        • n900mixalot

          That thinking is exactly what is wrong with America. Choice is a luxury and always has been. Marie Antoinette lost her head over thinking like that. Aristotle even knew there was more to it quite some time ago.

        • Anonymous

          The economy seems to be able to sustain multi million dollar bonuses for bankers and corporate executives, so I fail to see why it couldn’t sustain living wages for the workers whose labor provides the profit that allows those bankers and CEO’s to enjoy their lavish lifestyle, private jets and houses in the Hamptons. 

          You must be living in a bubble if you think that people actually want to work for minimum wage, or something barely above that. And if you think that the destruction of the blue collar middle class and the widening gap between the rich and the poor is good for America, than I guess you haven’t been paying attention. 

          Neoliberal economics has been a disaster for everyone except the richest of the rich. I see people every single day who were middle class, five, ten years ago, and who are now living in poverty, often on the edge of homelessness. That population is getting bigger, not smaller. 

          But someday, mark my words, all the chickens will come home to roost. When that day arrives, you don’t want to be on the wrong side of history. 

        • Anonymous

          The economy seems to be able to sustain multi million dollar bonuses for bankers and corporate executives, so I fail to see why it couldn’t sustain living wages for the workers whose labor provides the profit that allows those bankers and CEO’s to enjoy their lavish lifestyle, private jets and houses in the Hamptons. 

          You must be living in a bubble if you think that people actually want to work for minimum wage, or something barely above that. And if you think that the destruction of the blue collar middle class and the widening gap between the rich and the poor is good for America, than I guess you haven’t been paying attention. 

          Neoliberal economics has been a disaster for everyone except the richest of the rich. I see people every single day who were middle class, five, ten years ago, and who are now living in poverty, often on the edge of homelessness. That population is getting bigger, not smaller. 

          But someday, mark my words, all the chickens will come home to roost. When that day arrives, you don’t want to be on the wrong side of history. 

        • DDD

          this makes no sense at all ….. if what you were saying is true the deal would be approved

      • Christie Novak

        I can vouch and say that AT&T’s pay is not all that great.  As a former AT&T employee that dated a T-Mobile employee, I can honestly say that most months, he made more than me!  So getting paid more is definitely not an upside.

        • Christie Novak

          Not to mention that the union isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.  They don’t even come in to the stores to talk to you about the union.  Not to mention the union doesn’t help with anything.  It’s just a glorified overseer of AT&T.

        • Anonymous

          Hrmm. Didn’t know that. I was always under the impression that AT&T’s unionized workforce made a great deal more than their counterparts at T-Mobile, Sprint & Verizon. (I’m not sure if Verizon is a union shop or not, I know their wireline business is union, but I’m not certain about the wireless division.) I have several friends who worked (and a couple who still work for) AT&T, some of them starting in the late nineties at AT&T Wireless, back during the Craig McCaw days. So, everything I know about AT&T’s business practices, I’ve gleaned from them.

          Of course, none of them are front line employees anymore, so their take on things admittedly could be a little skewed.

      • Christie Novak

        I can vouch and say that AT&T’s pay is not all that great.  As a former AT&T employee that dated a T-Mobile employee, I can honestly say that most months, he made more than me!  So getting paid more is definitely not an upside.

  • Julio CG

    I’ve had MANY issues with t-mobile from the days of voicestream when they cancelled my account without my knowing and I was forced to go to Sprint PCS ). To recent battles with T mobile where I have even gone to the BBB and lost when I was clearly right with PROOF! Now that they have a potential deal with AT&T (which has horrible service according to my friends who I can barely have a conversation with them while they’re on their iphone4′s. The question is will customers stay with “ATT&T” for the newest version of the iphone?

    • Anonymous

      The BBB is useless. It’s a for profit business that extorts huge membership fees from businesses in exchange for providing a place for consumers to voice complaints that go unanswered. 

      You’d have a lot more luck complaining to your state attorney general, or your state telecommunications regulatory authority. In my experience, those complaints are generally resolved in the consumer’s favor. 

      Contact your state attorney general and ask them where the best place to file a telecommunications related consumer complaint would be, they’ll likely be able to point you in the right direction. 

  • Al45

    I do not care if T-mobile becomes the worst provider in the country, with the worst customer service, with the worst phones, etc. etc.

    What I do care is the merger with At&t, meaning there should not be one. So I urge everyone to focus on the real issue here, and lets not get distracted by what At&t or T-mobile does or say, or what some (suspicious) people say.

    The only big company that may be allowed to merge with T-mobile should be Sprint. (because it’s not so big)

    • Anonymous

      That would be a disaster. Sprint is bleeding money, they have a staggering debt load and they’ve made huge investments in technologies that are going nowhere. They’ve got some cool phones (my buddy just got an EVO 3D, and I’m not really one of those people who thinks that 3D technology is that cool. but that phone is freakin’ sweet!) but their customer service is atrocious and their vaunted network really isn’t all that. 

      Plus, the problem of incompatible technology would be a logistical nightmare.
      You can’t combine two deteriorating companies into one and hope that they will find some kind of magical synergy. It just doesn’t happen like that. The history of American business is full of disastrous mergers that ended up being the death blow to both organizations. (But hey, the M&A bankers sure got rich!)

      AT&T is T-Mobile’s best, and only hope. If it doesn’t go through, they will continue to be a second-rate carrier in a shrinking market, and that’s the best case scenario. The worst case scenario is that their network and spectrum are sold off piecemeal to the highest bidder and everybody loses their jobs. 

      As distasteful as this merger is, and as awful as it will be for American wireless consumers, it’s the best thing they’ve got going on. 

      It’s a sad world we live in.

    • Anonymous

      That would be a disaster. Sprint is bleeding money, they have a staggering debt load and they’ve made huge investments in technologies that are going nowhere. They’ve got some cool phones (my buddy just got an EVO 3D, and I’m not really one of those people who thinks that 3D technology is that cool. but that phone is freakin’ sweet!) but their customer service is atrocious and their vaunted network really isn’t all that. 

      Plus, the problem of incompatible technology would be a logistical nightmare.
      You can’t combine two deteriorating companies into one and hope that they will find some kind of magical synergy. It just doesn’t happen like that. The history of American business is full of disastrous mergers that ended up being the death blow to both organizations. (But hey, the M&A bankers sure got rich!)

      AT&T is T-Mobile’s best, and only hope. If it doesn’t go through, they will continue to be a second-rate carrier in a shrinking market, and that’s the best case scenario. The worst case scenario is that their network and spectrum are sold off piecemeal to the highest bidder and everybody loses their jobs. 

      As distasteful as this merger is, and as awful as it will be for American wireless consumers, it’s the best thing they’ve got going on. 

      It’s a sad world we live in.

      • n900mixalot

        Simple Mobile is a great MVNO and keeping it away from AT&T would be quite nice. They could share LTE with Simple and glean profits.

        It’s not that much of a logistical nightmare, it just takes strategic business thinking.

        • Anonymous

          I’ll be honest, I don’t know a whole lot about the MVNO business model other than the basics. (They lease network capacity wholesale from major carriers and resell it.)

          Whose network does Simple Mobile run on?

        • Mopar6464

          T-Mobile’s network.

        • Anonymous

          Good to know! Thanks! :) 

        • Mopar6464

          T-Mobile’s network.

        • Anonymous

          I’ll be honest, I don’t know a whole lot about the MVNO business model other than the basics. (They lease network capacity wholesale from major carriers and resell it.)

          Whose network does Simple Mobile run on?

    • Anonymous

      That would be a disaster. Sprint is bleeding money, they have a staggering debt load and they’ve made huge investments in technologies that are going nowhere. They’ve got some cool phones (my buddy just got an EVO 3D, and I’m not really one of those people who thinks that 3D technology is that cool. but that phone is freakin’ sweet!) but their customer service is atrocious and their vaunted network really isn’t all that. 

      Plus, the problem of incompatible technology would be a logistical nightmare.
      You can’t combine two deteriorating companies into one and hope that they will find some kind of magical synergy. It just doesn’t happen like that. The history of American business is full of disastrous mergers that ended up being the death blow to both organizations. (But hey, the M&A bankers sure got rich!)

      AT&T is T-Mobile’s best, and only hope. If it doesn’t go through, they will continue to be a second-rate carrier in a shrinking market, and that’s the best case scenario. The worst case scenario is that their network and spectrum are sold off piecemeal to the highest bidder and everybody loses their jobs. 

      As distasteful as this merger is, and as awful as it will be for American wireless consumers, it’s the best thing they’ve got going on. 

      It’s a sad world we live in.

    • George

      technologically T-mobile and Sprint are totally different, one is GSM based and another is CDMA/iDEN (for Nextel). So I don’t think this is possible, please correct me if I’m wrong

      • n900mixalot

        There’s no problem with a CDMA carrier owning a GSM spinoff. They could hypothetically put some power behind Simple Mobile (T-Mobile’s current MVNO) and share LTE with them.

  • the_truth

    Makes me happy I accepted Verizon’s job offer.

  • the_truth

    Makes me happy I accepted Verizon’s job offer.

  • the_truth

    Makes me happy I accepted Verizon’s job offer.

    • Anonymous

      Congratulations! 

      My wife’s uncle works for Verizon, he says its a pretty good place to work. :) 

      • the_truth

        Thanks–I have a wonderful daughter to support and they were fantastic through the whole interview process. I will be at Tmo for a bit longer but at least the stress is gone and I can be the professional i was trained to be until I take the skills over to them.

      • the_truth

        Thanks–I have a wonderful daughter to support and they were fantastic through the whole interview process. I will be at Tmo for a bit longer but at least the stress is gone and I can be the professional i was trained to be until I take the skills over to them.

        • Anonymous

          Very cool! I work for a state employment agency now, so it always makes me smile when I see that someone found a job in this awful economy. 

          Good luck with everything! (Hey, and the good news is, you’ll be the new guy with awesome skills, so you’ll probably get promoted into management pretty quickly!)

    • Anonymous

      Congratulations! 

      My wife’s uncle works for Verizon, he says its a pretty good place to work. :) 

    • Anonymous

      Congratulations! 

      My wife’s uncle works for Verizon, he says its a pretty good place to work. :) 

    • InvisibleHand

      Makes me glad that I left T-Mobile when I did.

      • Anonymous

        Me too. 

        • Sodo Chris

          ditto

        • Sodo Chris

          ditto

        • Sodo Chris

          ditto

        • Sodo Chris

          ditto

        • Sodo Chris

          ditto

        • Sodo Chris

          ditto

        • Sodo Chris

          ditto

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      Wow… congratulations on the wise move.

      But update:  Aren’t Verizon employees on strike now?  :(

  • Craigers

    I wonder if Rene Obermann will have that little satanic grin on his face when he is fired after this deal falls apart when the government says “no way in hell AT&T”.

  • Craigers

    I wonder if Rene Obermann will have that little satanic grin on his face when he is fired after this deal falls apart when the government says “no way in hell AT&T”.

  • Craigers

    I wonder if Rene Obermann will have that little satanic grin on his face when he is fired after this deal falls apart when the government says “no way in hell AT&T”.

  • Anonymous

    T-Mobile is “Stick a fork in them” Done!  They’re customer service is going down the tubes and they can keep cranking out cheap plans to try to stay competitive, but customers are wiser than that.  They don’t like uncertainty when the merger isn’t clear.  They’d rather go with a proven company.  I worked for T-Mo and left and went right back to AT&T with my iPhone.  Haven’t regretted it yet.

  • Richardthegrape

    Wikipedia isn’t the most reliable source…

  • ItsMichaelNotMike

    Sorry folks, you are going to have to suck it up like I did and realize your girlfriend has cheated on you and even though you said “I love you” and will take her back, she has moved on to another man.  It’s just the way it goes, we all move on. And there’s no need to dwell on her cheatin ways, that won’t bring her back.

    Don’t dis Rene, but for this windfall he was headed out the door (DT was showing losses, just like Sprint). He did what any CEO would do, take the $39 billion, show a gain for the year and save his job.

    Perhaps a bedtime story will help understand Herr Obermann’s situation and why he does not give a rat’s pitoot about TMOUS. 

    Assume your wife kept beeching at you because that collector car in the garage was not only taking up space, but draining the family finances.  (A wife? Well, for dramatic purposes let’s assume you took my advice, moved on, and found another woman to replace the above-mentioned cheating heart). Anyway, the car is putting a strain on the marriage, culminating in your wife about to sue for divorce.

    So to save your marriage you put the car up for sale.  Miracles of miracles, a buyer offers you three times what the car is worth.  Your wife says if you can get that kind of money for the car she will not only let you stay, she will, inter alia, give you 365 one-hour back massages.

    Alas, the contract says the sale is contingent on the car getting smogged, passing a DMV inspection and the DMV issuing a registration. 

    Are YOU going to hope the car gets through the DMV process and that the buyer goes through with the purchase?  Of course you are.

    Rene is in the same situation.  And the DT Board (wife) wants that $39 billion.

    Accept that this is the way things are and that there’s a 99.9% certainty the acquisition will be approved. If nothing else, the current political climate in Washington assures it. (And you can bet that DT is threatening if the deal is not approved it will simply sell T-Mobile US for scrap the Company and sell it in bits and pieces to the highest bidders. In that situation no one wins.)

    Yes, if the deal is not approved DT might get $6 billion (emphasis on “might”).  But that’s not
    enough of a financial incentive for DT to keep the U.S. operation going.

    Govern your affairs accordingly.  If you don’t like AT&T, sign up with someone else. 

    Prepaid: If you don’t like the other carriers’ contracts and rates, consider prepaid. I’m paying $40 monthly for 2.5 GB web, unlimited text and 1200 talk minutes.  Yeah, it’s a 3G connection, but: 1) I can’t tell the difference between 3G and T-Mobile’s 3.5G (excuse me, “4G”); 2) I use mostly WiFi; 3) The few times I am using 3G it’s to check email.  So I don’t need a 4G handset nor a 4G plan; 4) My phone, a Virgin Mobile Motorola Triumph, plays streamed movies on Netflix.  Movies look quite nice on the Motorola Triumph’s 4.1″ screen too; and 5) My phone plays Adobe Flash files on websites.

    Prepaid Stigma: If you are like some in here and can’t go prepaid because of the perceived stigma, get over it.  Or feel free to pay an extra $2,100 over 24 months so you can proudly show off to fellow diners at McDonalds that your phone is not “prepaid.”  Truth be told, if you pay up to $2100 simply to avoid the “prepaid stigma” you’re an idiot.  Maybe when Apple brings out the prepaid iPhone you will wise up.

    Look at the bright side, it was fun while it lasted, wasn’t it. I got almost 8 years out of this “marriage.”  That ain’t bad.

    And remember, if your phone doesn’t ring, it’s Rene calling.

    (Ambien kicking in, no time to spell check. Pardon all spelling and grammar errors.)

    • Schippma

      Thank you! Your comment made me smile. I like the analogy.

  • ItsMichaelNotMike

    Sorry folks, you are going to have to suck it up like I did and realize your girlfriend has cheated on you and even though you said “I love you” and will take her back, she has moved on to another man.  It’s just the way it goes, we all move on. And there’s no need to dwell on her cheatin ways, that won’t bring her back.

    Don’t dis Rene, but for this windfall he was headed out the door (DT was showing losses, just like Sprint). He did what any CEO would do, take the $39 billion, show a gain for the year and save his job.

    Perhaps a bedtime story will help understand Herr Obermann’s situation and why he does not give a rat’s pitoot about TMOUS. 

    Assume your wife kept beeching at you because that collector car in the garage was not only taking up space, but draining the family finances.  (A wife? Well, for dramatic purposes let’s assume you took my advice, moved on, and found another woman to replace the above-mentioned cheating heart). Anyway, the car is putting a strain on the marriage, culminating in your wife about to sue for divorce.

    So to save your marriage you put the car up for sale.  Miracles of miracles, a buyer offers you three times what the car is worth.  Your wife says if you can get that kind of money for the car she will not only let you stay, she will, inter alia, give you 365 one-hour back massages.

    Alas, the contract says the sale is contingent on the car getting smogged, passing a DMV inspection and the DMV issuing a registration. 

    Are YOU going to hope the car gets through the DMV process and that the buyer goes through with the purchase?  Of course you are.

    Rene is in the same situation.  And the DT Board (wife) wants that $39 billion.

    Accept that this is the way things are and that there’s a 99.9% certainty the acquisition will be approved. If nothing else, the current political climate in Washington assures it. (And you can bet that DT is threatening if the deal is not approved it will simply sell T-Mobile US for scrap the Company and sell it in bits and pieces to the highest bidders. In that situation no one wins.)

    Yes, if the deal is not approved DT might get $6 billion (emphasis on “might”).  But that’s not
    enough of a financial incentive for DT to keep the U.S. operation going.

    Govern your affairs accordingly.  If you don’t like AT&T, sign up with someone else. 

    Prepaid: If you don’t like the other carriers’ contracts and rates, consider prepaid. I’m paying $40 monthly for 2.5 GB web, unlimited text and 1200 talk minutes.  Yeah, it’s a 3G connection, but: 1) I can’t tell the difference between 3G and T-Mobile’s 3.5G (excuse me, “4G”); 2) I use mostly WiFi; 3) The few times I am using 3G it’s to check email.  So I don’t need a 4G handset nor a 4G plan; 4) My phone, a Virgin Mobile Motorola Triumph, plays streamed movies on Netflix.  Movies look quite nice on the Motorola Triumph’s 4.1″ screen too; and 5) My phone plays Adobe Flash files on websites.

    Prepaid Stigma: If you are like some in here and can’t go prepaid because of the perceived stigma, get over it.  Or feel free to pay an extra $2,100 over 24 months so you can proudly show off to fellow diners at McDonalds that your phone is not “prepaid.”  Truth be told, if you pay up to $2100 simply to avoid the “prepaid stigma” you’re an idiot.  Maybe when Apple brings out the prepaid iPhone you will wise up.

    Look at the bright side, it was fun while it lasted, wasn’t it. I got almost 8 years out of this “marriage.”  That ain’t bad.

    And remember, if your phone doesn’t ring, it’s Rene calling.

    (Ambien kicking in, no time to spell check. Pardon all spelling and grammar errors.)

  • Rapport09

    I hate AT&T as much as the next man but my question is….what’s going to happen to T Mobile if the merger fail? Will they fold and we end up getting service from the other carriers in the end. I’m just asking

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    • n900mixalot

      AT&T gives them money and spectrum, and they find the next highest purchaser. They still want to dissolve either way.

      • Nk

        Personally, I hope Vodafone is on that list. T-Mo US is perfect for them in terms of compatibility with networks and what not.

      • Nk

        Personally, I hope Vodafone is on that list. T-Mo US is perfect for them in terms of compatibility with networks and what not.

        • really?!?!

          I agree, Vodafone would be a good match with T-mobile.

        • really?!?!

          I agree, Vodafone would be a good match with T-mobile.

        • really?!?!

          I agree, Vodafone would be a good match with T-mobile.

        • really?!?!

          I agree, Vodafone would be a good match with T-mobile.

        • Hamster

          Vodaphone owns almost half of Verizon Wireless.

        • http://twitter.com/STEVENSTOCKTON Steven Jaye

          Not anymore. VZW paid their debt off. 

      • Nk

        Personally, I hope Vodafone is on that list. T-Mo US is perfect for them in terms of compatibility with networks and what not.

    • n900mixalot

      AT&T gives them money and spectrum, and they find the next highest purchaser. They still want to dissolve either way.

  • Rapport09

    I hate AT&T as much as the next man but my question is….what’s going to happen to T Mobile if the merger fail? Will they fold and we end up getting service from the other carriers in the end. I’m just asking

  • Smith

    They ignored T-Mobile USA long time ago. This is not new, they stopped caring about T-Mobile USA for years.

    Now if the AT&T deal goes trough good for them, If not, then they simply sell their bandwidth, equipment and etc. to others and will leave USA market forever.

    Because if this deal doesn’t go trough then I don’t think T-Mobile has any chance to even come back.

    They were already behind others after some bad choices in the past and now that we all know their best thing (Customer Service) went down all the way, they don’t even have that reputation anymore.

    So either this deal should go trough (Which I think it will) or they have to close the business. They are losing customers left and right these days. In last few months I saw many around me that left T-Mobile for Verizon and Sprint.

    It’s sad but either way T-Mobile is done. (It was good days…)

  • Anonymous

    Let’s pretend T-mobile USA loses 2 or 3 million customers by the time the merger closes, won’t there be some sort of penalty against DT for losing that many customers?

    I just can’t imagine AT&T accepting excessive customer losses before they take over because of DT’s poor management.

    With the amount of damage that DT is inflicting upon T-mobile USA, they are going to fight tooth and nail to make the merger happen before the whole ship sinks.

    • Anonymous

      AT&T doesn’t care about the customers. They’ve got plenty of customers, who spend a great deal more on wireless than T-Mobile customers do. They want the infrastructure and the spectrum and most of all, they want to kill off a competitor and further cement their market dominance. Most customers will stay due to simple inertia anyway. 

      When they were putting this deal together, they knew there would be a massive wave of customer defections before the deal closed. These guys aren’t dumb. They’ve already priced that into the deal. 

      • Alpha

        Divestitures may be part of the deal. No one cares about churn anymore

        • Anonymous

          Right, you are :)

        • Anonymous

          Right, you are :)

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      AT&T and T-Mobile have accounted for customer losses as a result of this deal, and other factors.  AT&T estimates 8 to 12 million T-Mobile customers will be “gone” by the time the deal cements.

  • 007

    one reason t-mobile will never get iphone….

    • TMOTECH

      That’s what is concerning you. You douche. Who cares about the I Phone. It is an outdated small screened low powered POS that charges too much for its applications and cannot have its battery replaced.  So who cares about the damn I Phone? There is a great possibility that I will lose my job because of this merger and DT’s  decision not to support T-Mobile properly and market us competitively. And you are worrying about the I Phone. god I cant wait for school to start back up so these kids will quit clogging up my news sites with mindless banter. 

      • GregP74

        I feel your pain about the job situation if this goes through.

        You can’t discount the iPhone. Even with it’s flaws, people are still flocking to it in droves.

        It’s a shame T-Mobile didn’t get the contract for it back in ’07 instead of ATT. Had that happened, we’d be looking at a totally different wireless landscape with a much more viable T-Mobile that probably would have acquired Sprint by now and may be on the level of ATT and Vzw.

      • GregP74

        I feel your pain about the job situation if this goes through.

        You can’t discount the iPhone. Even with it’s flaws, people are still flocking to it in droves.

        It’s a shame T-Mobile didn’t get the contract for it back in ’07 instead of ATT. Had that happened, we’d be looking at a totally different wireless landscape with a much more viable T-Mobile that probably would have acquired Sprint by now and may be on the level of ATT and Vzw.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NI4YLXAO43ZREYQHO5KKWJJZKQ Haney

          People flock to the iphone for the same reason they pay 400 dollars for a Coach purse. It’s a young world and the youth of today is willing to pay more for the brand, whether it’s worth it or not.

        • http://tmonews.com David

          Really? I think it has a lot to do with quality…a Coach purse is likely to be made of better quality material than the purse at your local flea market. True they both do the same thing but odds are that Flea Market purse doesn’t last as long as the Coach bag.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NI4YLXAO43ZREYQHO5KKWJJZKQ Haney

          People flock to the iphone for the same reason they pay 400 dollars for a Coach purse. It’s a young world and the youth of today is willing to pay more for the brand, whether it’s worth it or not.

    • TMOTECH

      That’s what is concerning you. You douche. Who cares about the I Phone. It is an outdated small screened low powered POS that charges too much for its applications and cannot have its battery replaced.  So who cares about the damn I Phone? There is a great possibility that I will lose my job because of this merger and DT’s  decision not to support T-Mobile properly and market us competitively. And you are worrying about the I Phone. god I cant wait for school to start back up so these kids will quit clogging up my news sites with mindless banter. 

    • TMOTECH

      That’s what is concerning you. You douche. Who cares about the I Phone. It is an outdated small screened low powered POS that charges too much for its applications and cannot have its battery replaced.  So who cares about the damn I Phone? There is a great possibility that I will lose my job because of this merger and DT’s  decision not to support T-Mobile properly and market us competitively. And you are worrying about the I Phone. god I cant wait for school to start back up so these kids will quit clogging up my news sites with mindless banter. 

  • http://MobileGenius.wordpress.com JM

    They lost the confidence of DT. They’ve steadily lost the confidence and enthusiasm of their employees. They have lost the interest of their (former or soon to be former) customers. They lost the lead with Android. They lost out on offering the iPhone. They lost their way with marketing. They have certainly lost what was formerly good customer service. I really have enjoyed their service since 1999 but they’re a company in decline.

    • Nightnighttmobs

      as a t-mobile employee I would like to say thank you

    • Flashy4bb

      even though they seem to have lost it all, t mobile’ll still be better off without att. the fact of the matter is they have everything to make a strong come back. if the deal fails, t mobile will have 6b to invest. they are in decline because this is what att has worked on and is succeding at. people are skeptical and desappointed and therefore turn to other carriers. i believe management at t mobile should invest more in ads, and reassure both customers and customer service agents ‘rep’ about the positive, competitive and innovative spirit within the company through out better rate plans ‘ some they are working on so far ‘. better commercials, and stop dealing with those low end devices. by doing so, things will change. come on!!! us cellular is making it….why can’t t mobile?

      • Anonymous

        T-Mobile needs to get back to the great cust. service but the need to expand there network even just the 2G Network, the only thing i do not like about t-mobile is i do not get service all over, like Verizon and At t have, but i have it enough where i am still a customer, it is when i travel i am always losing service to even make a phone call

    • Flashy4bb

      even though they seem to have lost it all, t mobile’ll still be better off without att. the fact of the matter is they have everything to make a strong come back. if the deal fails, t mobile will have 6b to invest. they are in decline because this is what att has worked on and is succeding at. people are skeptical and desappointed and therefore turn to other carriers. i believe management at t mobile should invest more in ads, and reassure both customers and customer service agents ‘rep’ about the positive, competitive and innovative spirit within the company through out better rate plans ‘ some they are working on so far ‘. better commercials, and stop dealing with those low end devices. by doing so, things will change. come on!!! us cellular is making it….why can’t t mobile?

  • ohnoitsgingerbreadman

    If the deal goes down lets hope Google buy T-mobile lol just saying. Would be nice they probably get a good deal since dt wanna get rid of it so bad lol

    • stuckondaphone!

      Being someone who has worked for Google, I can say that would not be the best Idea! I am not saying Google is a bad company, it just that there are better companies to match T-mo up with. Such as companies that could do bundle packages such as AT&T & VZW (Not all market) have. Not to mention Google’s support is nothing to brag about. That being said, I hope the deal doesn’t go through.

      • pop

        I’m just saying but I also hope the deal doesn’t go through

        • TmoUsr

          Hope is not enough. Look where we are with Obama’s “hope”. If you don’t want 2 companies controlling 80% of the market; if you don’t want a monopoly on the GSM network; then action is needed: calls, letters, educating others, sharing links, etc. etc.

        • Noah1017

          Yea.. Thats obviously done alot in recent years haha.
          As much as all of this suck, dont start pretending like you or any other consumer can make any impact on any big business decision. They dont even care when senators write them letter. I can say they probably do not fear the; overindulged, over entitled, must-get-my-way, negligent and physically obese american population we have proved ourselves to be over and over again.If you really wanted to change things and not just make some CEOs laugh then avoid all paper and buy a real fuckin weapon. (really) 

        • Noah1017

          Yea.. Thats obviously done alot in recent years haha.
          As much as all of this suck, dont start pretending like you or any other consumer can make any impact on any big business decision. They dont even care when senators write them letter. I can say they probably do not fear the; overindulged, over entitled, must-get-my-way, negligent and physically obese american population we have proved ourselves to be over and over again.If you really wanted to change things and not just make some CEOs laugh then avoid all paper and buy a real fuckin weapon. (really) 

        • http://www.facebook.com/joseph.singer Joseph Singer

          Well, if the deal does not go through with AT&T T-Mobile’s not staying in the US market.  They’ve made it pretty clear.  Even though I don’t particularly like AT&T (I like them about as much as I like Bank of America or Chase) the writing’s on the wall that DT wants out of the American market.

        • http://www.facebook.com/joseph.singer Joseph Singer

          Well, if the deal does not go through with AT&T T-Mobile’s not staying in the US market.  They’ve made it pretty clear.  Even though I don’t particularly like AT&T (I like them about as much as I like Bank of America or Chase) the writing’s on the wall that DT wants out of the American market.

    • stuckondaphone!

      Being someone who has worked for Google, I can say that would not be the best Idea! I am not saying Google is a bad company, it just that there are better companies to match T-mo up with. Such as companies that could do bundle packages such as AT&T & VZW (Not all market) have. Not to mention Google’s support is nothing to brag about. That being said, I hope the deal doesn’t go through.

    • stuckondaphone!

      Being someone who has worked for Google, I can say that would not be the best Idea! I am not saying Google is a bad company, it just that there are better companies to match T-mo up with. Such as companies that could do bundle packages such as AT&T & VZW (Not all market) have. Not to mention Google’s support is nothing to brag about. That being said, I hope the deal doesn’t go through.

    • stuckondaphone!

      Being someone who has worked for Google, I can say that would not be the best Idea! I am not saying Google is a bad company, it just that there are better companies to match T-mo up with. Such as companies that could do bundle packages such as AT&T & VZW (Not all market) have. Not to mention Google’s support is nothing to brag about. That being said, I hope the deal doesn’t go through.

    • stuckondaphone!

      Being someone who has worked for Google, I can say that would not be the best Idea! I am not saying Google is a bad company, it just that there are better companies to match T-mo up with. Such as companies that could do bundle packages such as AT&T & VZW (Not all market) have. Not to mention Google’s support is nothing to brag about. That being said, I hope the deal doesn’t go through.

  • GregP74

    From what I can tell, there really hasn’t been much interest out there. Sprint made their lowball offer, and of course we know about the ATT deal, but other than that companies have had a “no thanks” attitude.

    There is recent news about Cablevision being interested, but I haven’t heard if they’re really in any position to make some kind of deal.

  • GregP74

    From what I can tell, there really hasn’t been much interest out there. Sprint made their lowball offer, and of course we know about the ATT deal, but other than that companies have had a “no thanks” attitude.

    There is recent news about Cablevision being interested, but I haven’t heard if they’re really in any position to make some kind of deal.

    • Anonymous

      You’re probably right on the money. Personally I would imagine that T-Mobile’s management has some sort of “Plan B” on the backburner (they’d be irresponsible not to) but I think you’re correct in saying that there’s simply not a lot of interest in the company from outside buyers. T-Mobile needs huge capital investments in their spectrum and infrastructure to continue as a viable concern, and given the current economic climate, it doesn’t surprise me at all that there isn’t a lot interest in their business.

  • sergio cruz

    I’m so happy that I finally went to Sprint! T-Mobile is a crap company now, they’re under the AT&T spell. Horrible customer service, tiered plans, all of this is not what T-Mobile used to stand for! I’ve been with T-Mobile for 6 years and yesterday I switched to Sprint. Couldn’t be happier with my decision.

  • Tony

    They could care less, It is all about MONEY, I am so disgusted. All they are waiting is for the approval, collect the Money and get the HELL OUT…….

  • Lcc1_

    yeh basically what others are saying here. DT has given up on TMo hence the longer wait times to speak to a cust serv rep and long time customers jumping ship. They dont give a damn and are just biding their time when AT&T takes over. I for one am going to stick it out. When or If the merger goes thru…Im out.

    I had AT&T when it was cingular…one of the worse decisions I ever made going to them…ugggh!

  • Diana34

    Well I would switch to sprint or Verizon if we had Verizon over here in Puerto rico we don’t. We only have T-Mobile which used to be good now it went down the drain, at&t which is good over here it actually is I’m not joking its not crap like in the states only problem its too expensive, sprint which straight out sucks in both coverage and reception I know cuz my boyfriend had an evo 4G . Sprint doesn’t even cover the whole island which kinda suckz cuz there plans are good better than att. And it sucks cuz many places tru out san juan, bayamon, and Carolina pr where I travel to had very little to no sprint service. My boyfriends evo said searching svc half of the time while my att bb torch never lost service once. Lastly there’s claro which u guys don’t have in the states, we had Verizon but I dnt know what happened that all Verizon stores over here became claro stores. I never had that claro company cuz they say it suckz and its expensive. O well I guess ima have to go back to at&t I canceled att cuz it was too expensive and gave T-Mobile a try it worked OK but not as good as at&t. At least u guys in the states have more companies to choose from like metro pcs, cricket , us celular etc over here we dnt we only have virgin mobile which uses sprints crappy network. And tracphone which I heard also uses sprints network so yea it sucks.

    • Yo

      pr sucks…claro is verizon pretty much. expensive just like verizon

      • Desiree32

        @yo PR doesn’t suck there cellphone companies do Puerto rico in general doesn’t suck. At least they not as strict as in the states. From what I heard pr is pretty much like Mexico were u can bribe cops if they stop u and dnt have a license and drinking age is 18. I’m 17 and live in California and gonna go live to san Juan pr in 2 months when I turn 18 . So ima finally be able to drink in bars and night clubs legally cuz drinking age in pr is 18. Not 21 like in California. Btw that’s not the only reason I’m leaving I’m goin cuz I wanna see how life is over there

        • Alexx66

          Dam u lucky! ! I live in new york were its 21 to drink :( it sucks cuz I’m 19 and I can’t buy 1 freaking beer! It sukz cuz I can go to war, get married and many more stuff but I can’t buy 1 fckinqq beer! Kinda ridiculous if u ask me ! Puerto RICO here I come!!! Cuz over there like u said its 18 to drink.btw t-mobile sucks at&t all the way!

        • Fatgurl23

          All of u are stupid if ur gonna move to Puerto Rico just to drink cuz its 18 over there which I still don’t know why it is? I mean if its still part of the US why is it the only place its 18? Everywhere else it’s 21. So yeaa Just wait till ur 21 …….

        • Fatgurl23

          All of u are stupid if ur gonna move to Puerto Rico just to drink cuz its 18 over there which I still don’t know why it is? I mean if its still part of the US why is it the only place its 18? Everywhere else it’s 21. So yeaa Just wait till ur 21 …….

        • Fatgurl23

          All of u are stupid if ur gonna move to Puerto Rico just to drink cuz its 18 over there which I still don’t know why it is? I mean if its still part of the US why is it the only place its 18? Everywhere else it’s 21. So yeaa Just wait till ur 21 …….

        • Alexx66

          Dam u lucky! ! I live in new york were its 21 to drink :( it sucks cuz I’m 19 and I can’t buy 1 freaking beer! It sukz cuz I can go to war, get married and many more stuff but I can’t buy 1 fckinqq beer! Kinda ridiculous if u ask me ! Puerto RICO here I come!!! Cuz over there like u said its 18 to drink.btw t-mobile sucks at&t all the way!

      • Desiree32

        @yo PR doesn’t suck there cellphone companies do Puerto rico in general doesn’t suck. At least they not as strict as in the states. From what I heard pr is pretty much like Mexico were u can bribe cops if they stop u and dnt have a license and drinking age is 18. I’m 17 and live in California and gonna go live to san Juan pr in 2 months when I turn 18 . So ima finally be able to drink in bars and night clubs legally cuz drinking age in pr is 18. Not 21 like in California. Btw that’s not the only reason I’m leaving I’m goin cuz I wanna see how life is over there

    • Yo

      pr sucks…claro is verizon pretty much. expensive just like verizon

  • http://rpad.tv RPadTV

    If the merger doesn’t go through, T-Mobile USA gets $3-billion in cash, $2-billion in spectrum, and a $1-billion roaming deal from AT&T. That opens up all sorts of possibilities for the company. I’d lover for the merger to be blocked, but I don’t see it happening.

  • Suck

    You think you have it bad, imagine what the T-Mobile USA employees are going through right now…

    • http://twitter.com/Casual__Luxury Ryan

      supposedly most of them ‘won’t lose their job’. Because AT&T would actually need to open more stores gaining all these T-Mobile customers. They would just keep the current stores and re-do all the naming on everything lol

      • DT

        hahahaha that’s what a lot of Tmo employees actually think too :) 

  • http://twitter.com/STEVENSTOCKTON Steven Jaye

    How about if the merger doesn’t go through, TMO USA does an
    IPO? 

    • Brianb

      They can sell it to telefonica or Orange mobile.

    • Anonymous

      I doubt their stock would be priced favorably by the market in the wake of a failed merger attempt.