T-Mobile Classic And Value Rate Plans Go Live

Right on schedule T-Mobile has unveiled the Classic and Value rate plan selections and they are now ready for your buying pleasure.The new plans represent yet another industry first for T-Mobile as they attempt to move customers away from the equipment subsidy model that has been a staple of the American wireless industry for years. Time will tell how receptive customers are to the changes T-Mobile is making and whether or not a widespread shift in the industry is possible. If T-Mobile is successful at an offering that reduces the monthly cost without a subsidy on equipment the question will come as to whether or not the industry at large is ready for such a dynamic shift in purchasing devices? Will this effort succeed or fail, what say you?

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  • David Brewer

    I tried to go on this new plan this morning, but was told I would have to pay a “migration fee” of $200 So its a lose/lose situation.

  • David Brewer

    I tried to go on this new plan this morning, but was told I would have to pay a “migration fee” of $200 So its a lose/lose situation.

    • Vlad2277

      OF COURSE, YOU PROBABLY JUST BOUGHT NEW PHONE FOR $200, NOT FULL PRICE.

  • Jaygqitalia

    They always make it look so confusing on the website. I barely knew where to find the value tab.

  • Jaygqitalia

    They always make it look so confusing on the website. I barely knew where to find the value tab.

  • Jaygqitalia

    They always make it look so confusing on the website. I barely knew where to find the value tab.

    • Bostonsnowfreak

      go to a store

  • Jaygqitalia

    They always make it look so confusing on the website. I barely knew where to find the value tab.

  • Cubskru

    There is no 200mb data option :(

  • Cubskru

    There is no 200mb data option :(

    • http://twitter.com/CraigToomey Egor

      Yes, there’s only 2G for family value. Sucks. :-(

      • http://twitter.com/CraigToomey Egor

        Found it! It’s available in My T-Mobile when you switch plans!

      • http://twitter.com/CraigToomey Egor

        Found it! It’s available in My T-Mobile when you switch plans!

    • Anonymous

      I am disappointed, too.

    • Anonymous

      I am disappointed, too.

  • Cubskru

    There is no 200mb data option :(

  • Cubskru

    There is no 200mb data option :(

  • Androidluvr

    this is joke. Wasn’t there supose to be a 2GB data included within the $59 plan???

    • Jaygqitalia

      gotta click the value tab

  • Androidluvr

    this is joke. Wasn’t there supose to be a 2GB data included within the $59 plan???

  • Androidluvr

    this is joke. Wasn’t there supose to be a 2GB data included within the $59 plan???

  • Jesse Mack

    This is a strange situation. The new value plans are basically just a little bit cheaper, post-paid, versions of the prepaid plans. Sign a two year contract with no phone discount just to save $10 a month or gain 1.8gb of 4g data while sacrificing anytime minutes.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHE5LPL74R6IGLBIYGUIT3KJZA Jeff

    UMMM…..T-Mobile TRIED to “dynamically shift” the industry with their Even More Plus no contract plans that did not offer subsidized phones. AND they took those plans away from us. How are these plans that require contracts and don’t offer subsidies supposed to “dynamically shift” the industry? The old Even More Plus plans were MUCH more of an “industry first” than these. They have completely taken away the post-paid no contract option that REALLY tried to shift the market. Seems like they unfortunately failed.

    • 21stNow

      I totally agree with you, Jeff. EMP was a great offering. It allowed customers to have a choice. Will the Value plans have an ETF?

    • 21stNow

      I totally agree with you, Jeff. EMP was a great offering. It allowed customers to have a choice. Will the Value plans have an ETF?

      • Barker1964

        Yes $200.00

      • Barker1964

        Yes $200.00

      • ZooBert

        not only that but if you recently bought a subsidized phone there is (upto) $200 Migration charge to switch to a value plan. (aka ETF)

  • trife

    This won’t end well.  

    I don’t think the average U.S. consumer will be too pleased with having to pay full price for a phone.  Oh wait….I’m STILL obligated to have a 2-year contract, as well?  No thanks. 

    Moves like this is why TMO is losing.  Far too many dramatic shifts in their plans for my tastes.  

      

  • Tito!

    It could very well work!
    With the explosive change in dynamic Android has brought. A new device almost every week .
    People would be crazy to not find this appealing.
    As for people who don’t give up bashing T-Mobile, you should be tired as well?

    T-Mobile is the Best thing to happen to this industry, & you know it. :)

  • Gerryf19

    I have to admit during the prerelease hype I wasn’t  100 percent certain what the end result would be with the various value plan permutations, so I thought I would wait to test it out. I’ve got to agree with some others–the market will not accept these plans as long as we can not get reliable cell phones cheaply. There is not enough benefit when a phone costs $600 to go with a value plan.  With a family of 3, I save $50 a month, but I am forking over $2400 for phones — AND I am signing a two year contract? I would have to stick around 4 years to recoup that.

    I think that value plan would eventually work,  if  phone manufacturers were selling direct to the public, but as long as the carriers—Tmobile include–are keeping phone prices artificially high to justify contracts, this is not going to work.

    It costs about $220 to make an Iphone, probably the most expensive phone out there. Technology, competition, economies of scale, mass distribution–phones should cost no more than $300 in the high end and a phone that has been out 6 months should be int he $50 range.

    Carriers are ripping us off every day with these bogus $600 phone with two year commitment because they have to subsidize the cost of phones. Total garbage. The cell phone is a mature product–by this time in its lifecyle, they should be much cheaper   

    • jarjon76

      I’m with you on the price of phones. I’ve always maintained that there’s no reason to charge someone $400-600 for a phone, no matter how “high end” or “new” it is. And you’re absolutely right on the older phones–T-Mobile charges way too much for a “high end” phone that’s had a long shelf life. That’s not me being cheap–that’s me saying no way a new phone is worth $400-600 or an older model phone is worth $200. And T-Mobile wonders why they have a warehouse full of older phones they can’t get rid of?

    • ZooBert

      I’m not saying I like their plans, but you should realize that they are have been charging you full price all along for a phone, they just hid it in the plan. so now if you save $20/month and pay full price for a phone you are really breaking even ($20x24months = 280). Price of phone $500-$280 = $220 similar to a subsidized phone.  Plus you only pay $250 the day you buy it and the rest gets spread over 23 months.

      • jarjon76

        I think his main point is T-Mobile, and the other carriers, are charging outrageous prices for phones to begin with. His point rings true–no new phone should cost $400-600. 

        • Anonymous

          its surprising how many people dont see the savings, they are using the european model. over there many many carriers do the same thing and its really successful. value plans save everyone money hands down most affordable pricing here is an example

          classic plan unlimited everything. 79.99(2gb) for u non believers

          same plan on value plan 59.99+ 15 for the phone, 74.99 per month

          even buying phone at full price you still save $180, thats granted you want that plan, there is over $1000 saving over att and verizon

      • jarjon76

        I think his main point is T-Mobile, and the other carriers, are charging outrageous prices for phones to begin with. His point rings true–no new phone should cost $400-600. 

    • ZooBert

      I’m not saying I like their plans, but you should realize that they are have been charging you full price all along for a phone, they just hid it in the plan. so now if you save $20/month and pay full price for a phone you are really breaking even ($20x24months = 280). Price of phone $500-$280 = $220 similar to a subsidized phone.  Plus you only pay $250 the day you buy it and the rest gets spread over 23 months.

  • Gerryf19

    I have to admit during the prerelease hype I wasn’t  100 percent certain what the end result would be with the various value plan permutations, so I thought I would wait to test it out. I’ve got to agree with some others–the market will not accept these plans as long as we can not get reliable cell phones cheaply. There is not enough benefit when a phone costs $600 to go with a value plan.  With a family of 3, I save $50 a month, but I am forking over $2400 for phones — AND I am signing a two year contract? I would have to stick around 4 years to recoup that.

    I think that value plan would eventually work,  if  phone manufacturers were selling direct to the public, but as long as the carriers—Tmobile include–are keeping phone prices artificially high to justify contracts, this is not going to work.

    It costs about $220 to make an Iphone, probably the most expensive phone out there. Technology, competition, economies of scale, mass distribution–phones should cost no more than $300 in the high end and a phone that has been out 6 months should be int he $50 range.

    Carriers are ripping us off every day with these bogus $600 phone with two year commitment because they have to subsidize the cost of phones. Total garbage. The cell phone is a mature product–by this time in its lifecyle, they should be much cheaper   

  • ricr

    I’ve been thinking about these “Value Plans” a little more, and I believe it is nothing but a marketing ploy by T-Mobile.  It gives them the ability to advertise the rates of these plans and compare them to the competition while not really expecting anyone in their right mind to actually take advantage of them.  Of course there may be the occasional person that already has a phone and won’t be looking to upgrade anytime soon that will welcome the few dollars a month savings, but most will skip it.

    It also allows T-Mobile to pull people into the store, but after explaining the “Value Plan”, they will likely opt for the Classic Plan.  It’s a very crafty bait-n-switch.  I’ve accused T-Mobile marketing department of not being very savvy, but gotta hand it to them with this.  This bait-n-switch scheme may just work.

  • ricr

    I’ve been thinking about these “Value Plans” a little more, and I believe it is nothing but a marketing ploy by T-Mobile.  It gives them the ability to advertise the rates of these plans and compare them to the competition while not really expecting anyone in their right mind to actually take advantage of them.  Of course there may be the occasional person that already has a phone and won’t be looking to upgrade anytime soon that will welcome the few dollars a month savings, but most will skip it.

    It also allows T-Mobile to pull people into the store, but after explaining the “Value Plan”, they will likely opt for the Classic Plan.  It’s a very crafty bait-n-switch.  I’ve accused T-Mobile marketing department of not being very savvy, but gotta hand it to them with this.  This bait-n-switch scheme may just work.

  • Philli01

    My even more plus plan gives me unlimited everything. Minus the data cap a 5gb whicj I’ve Only received once. I don’t the point onto these plans.

  • Vlad2277

    It’s clear that all this hostility against T-Mobile is coming from people who can’t count.
    Highest priced phone is 550.
    It’s not free on classic plan, wake-up!
    It will still cost you $200.
    So you only saving $350.
    But you will be paying extra 20 on individual, or $40 on family classic plan.
    So after 24 months, you saving at least $480, plus taxes, which takes it well over 500, instead of 350.
    So savings are clearly there in Value plans.
    Plus you not obligated to even take data and messages are already included in price.
    People on other companies not complaining as much. On at&t, when you buy iPhone you must pay for full data package, and it cones to almost twice the cost of T-Mobile service. On Sprint, they say they truly unlimited data, but with that plan, which costs far more then t-mobile, you get 450minutes. Try to make calls with 20m daily.
    You have choice to buy iPhone and use it with t-mobile too.
    Lots of people even on at&t would like to just buy iPhone because they like the phone, but no they must take data too, but we at t-mobile can make all this choices, and be forced.
    Any way you look at it, when you go with subsidized option, you overpay price of any phone.

    • Nate32

      no speak english?

    • 30014

      Vlad sprints unlimited plan includes 450 anytime minutes but also unlimited mobile to mobile. Thats any mobile number not just sprints. The majority of my calls go to mobile numbers anyway so 450 anytime minutes is more than enough.

    • 30014

      Vlad sprints unlimited plan includes 450 anytime minutes but also unlimited mobile to mobile. Thats any mobile number not just sprints. The majority of my calls go to mobile numbers anyway so 450 anytime minutes is more than enough.

  • Nate32

    I have the EM+ $59 unlimited everything no-contract..  why would I ever switch and chain myself to a contract??

    • Vlad2277

      You just have unlimited voice+text
      NO DATA.

      • Guest

        I have this plan as well and I have data. Is that going to change? 

        • Jaygqitalia

          No nothing happens unless u wanna change it

      • Nate32

        It includes unlimited data. It’s a grandfathered plan. As long as you don’t switch, you can keep it.

      • Jaygqitalia

        Dude how many times u going to tell this to people. I also have EM+ 59 unlimited everything. This plan was available for 1 day 2 months ago. WE HAVE UNLIMITED DATA ( 2gbs ) So stop

    • Vlad2277

      You just have unlimited voice+text
      NO DATA.

    • Vlad2277

      You just have unlimited voice+text
      NO DATA.

  • Guest

    Just confirmed with a T-Mobile Chat Agent that a 2 year agreement is required. Too bad…

  • http://twitter.com/CraigToomey Egor

    2 yr contract is required for both Classic and Value.

  • 30014

    These new plans are all about making sure people don’t flee in mass if the merger goes through. There is no way I’m falling for this 2 year trap. You have to be crazy to think its a value to pay full price for your phone and still be forced into a contract.

    • Vlad2277

      And where you gonna flee?
      All companies charge twice, what T-Mobile us charging.
      And if the deal with at&t goes through, all people with no contracts, say good buy to your plans…

      • 21stNow

        “And if the deal with at&t goes through, all people with no contracts, say good buy (sic) to your plans…”

        While we don’t know what at&t will do with this buyout, in past buyouts, acquired customers could keep their plans until they decided to take an at&t subsidized phone.  Your statement spreads unnecessary fear.

  • 30014

    These new plans are all about making sure people don’t flee in mass if the merger goes through. There is no way I’m falling for this 2 year trap. You have to be crazy to think its a value to pay full price for your phone and still be forced into a contract.

  • Vibrant4G

    It just to be good when they had this $30 prepaid plan with 1500 talk & text. 
    Now you have to pay twice as that =P

  • Vibrant4G

    It just to be good when they had this $30 prepaid plan with 1500 talk & text. 
    Now you have to pay twice as that =P

  • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

    Not good for me, on EM+ 500 Mins, 5GB for $10 Data. $30+$10=$40 before taxes&fees.
    If I want same mins and Data as my current plan, I will have to pay $70/month on Classic ($60/month on Value) before taxes&fees.
    It’s like going back to ATT pricing.

    Just went to T-mo store, asked about if I can buy HTC sensation 4G at full price and still use my current plan.
    They said I will have no internet since it’s not a 4G data plan….
    Sigh, guess I’ll have to buy Euro/Asia sensation and use my current 3G cheap plan on T-mo.

    BTW, T-mo store look so rundown now, and the clerks there just chatting with each other and not greeting the customers…damn you ATT & DT!! Look what you did.
     

    • Vibrant Addict

      Here is where I get lost. Can’t you get the sensation through somewhere other than them and stay no contact? I’m so lost

      • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

        T-mo will id the IMEI of any T-mo branded sensation 4G, and force your to the “4G plans”
        That’s means my grandfathered $10/5GB plan won’t work and I’ll have to “upgrade” doesn’t matter where I buy Sensation 4G from.

    • CharlieSheenisaMoron

      um, all data plans are technically “4G”. TMO is not like sprint, they dont make you pay more for a 4G plan. TMO actually gives every plan 4G. and 5mbps is 4g speed. 1mbps would be around 3g. 

      • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

        No, 3G is more than 1mbps, I have HD2, so it’s not a 4G phone, now is it?
        And yes, all data should be the same since they have a soft cap, but it is not(at lease arrocding to carriers).
        So the data plan I have now won’t work with any of T-mo’s 4G phones.

        • CharlieSheenisaMoron

          the cool this is that non 4g phones still get a boost from the 4g networks because it is backwards compatible and will increase the average speed of a device thats 3g

        • CharlieSheenisaMoron

          the cool this is that non 4g phones still get a boost from the 4g networks because it is backwards compatible and will increase the average speed of a device thats 3g

    • CharlieSheenisaMoron

      um, all data plans are technically “4G”. TMO is not like sprint, they dont make you pay more for a 4G plan. TMO actually gives every plan 4G. and 5mbps is 4g speed. 1mbps would be around 3g. 

  • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

    Not good for me, on EM+ 500 Mins, 5GB for $10 Data. $30+$10=$40 before taxes&fees.
    If I want same mins and Data as my current plan, I will have to pay $70/month on Classic ($60/month on Value) before taxes&fees.
    It’s like going back to ATT pricing.

    Just went to T-mo store, asked about if I can buy HTC sensation 4G at full price and still use my current plan.
    They said I will have no internet since it’s not a 4G data plan….
    Sigh, guess I’ll have to buy Euro/Asia sensation and use my current 3G cheap plan on T-mo.

    BTW, T-mo store look so rundown now, and the clerks there just chatting with each other and not greeting the customers…damn you ATT & DT!! Look what you did.
     

  • Wondercoolguy

    I like it because you wait about 2 months after the phone you want comes out all the hip and trendy ppl that need to have the latest phone are dumping them for 250ish….

  • CRT24

    Just do what is best for you individually….if you don’t want a contract then DON’T SIGN A CONTRACT! If you want a subsidized phone then T-Mobile has the best option of any carrier with the classic plans and if that doesn’t work for you then these New value plans are even less than the classic plans in most, if not all cases regardless if you get the most expensive phone or the cheapest phone. And you are not REQUIRED to have data if you don’t want it…..you have no where near the options with the other carriers as you do with T-Mobile right now but the kicker is that ALL of the options with T-Mobile are better than anything the other major carriers have to offer….hands down! So everyone please quit crying and do what is best for you and your family but if you can’t find a plan offering with T-Mobile that satisfies you then you will never be satisfied because no one else comes close…..and please don’t come back with criket, boost, or some other BS regional prepaid carrier because everyone knows that the phone selection and coverage does not compare.

    • Mopar6464

      Simple Mobile does.
      You can use a iphone , HD2 , HD7 , or whatever you wish and get Unlimited Everything 3G/4G for $60.00 a month and uses T-mobile’s towers. And that price is with all fees and taxes included.
      So try again.

      • Mopar6464

        And i forgot , NO CONTRACT !

      • Mopar6464

        And i forgot , NO CONTRACT !

        • CharlieSheenisaMoron

          yeah, we hear you the first 500 times you began spouting that

        • Mopar6464

          That’s for idiots like You who have to respond with misinformed information.

        • CharlieSheenisaMoron

          really…do shouting the same thing over and over makes me an idiot for pointing that out…..or does that make you the idiot for not having better skills at relaying information in a way that you dont have to repeat yourself repeat yourself repeat yourself over and over and over and over and repeat yourself over and over and over and repeat yourself over and over and over?

        • CharlieSheenisaMoron

          really…do shouting the same thing over and over makes me an idiot for pointing that out…..or does that make you the idiot for not having better skills at relaying information in a way that you dont have to repeat yourself repeat yourself repeat yourself over and over and over and over and repeat yourself over and over and over and repeat yourself over and over and over?

      • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

        1GB cap? 

        • Mopar6464

          Web page staes unlimted.
          Getting ready to give them a test run soon.

        • Mopar6464

          Here is the Simple Mobile data agreement :
          Simple Mobile
          No number, just a policy on responsible usage which you agree to when you subscribe.25. Additional Terms for Data Plans and FeaturesThe following terms apply to your data plan or feature (“Data Plan”). To the extent any term in your Data Plan expressly conflicts with the general Terms and Conditions, which also apply to your service, the term in your Data Plan will govern. Please read your Data Plan carefully.1. Permissible and Prohibited Data UsesYour Data Plan is intended for Web browsing, messaging, and similar activities on your device and not on any other equipment. Unless explicitly permitted by your Data Plan, other uses, including for example, tethering your device to a personal computer or other hardware, are not permitted.Examples of prohibited uses include but are not limited to: (a) server devices or host computer applications, including continuous Web camera posts or broadcasts, automatic data feeds, automated machine-to-machine connections or peer-to-peer (P2P) file-sharing applications that are broadcast to multiple servers or recipients, “bots” or similar routines that could disrupt net user groups or email use by others or other applications that denigrate network capacity or functionality; (b) as a substitute or backup for private lines or dedicated data connections; (c) any activity that adversely affects the ability of other users or systems to use either Simple Mobile’s services or the network-based resources of others, including the generation or dissemination of viruses, malware or “denial of service” attacks; (d) accessing, or attempting to access without authority, the information, accounts or devices of others, or to penetrate, or attempt to penetrate, Simple Mobile’s or another entity’s network or systems; or (e), running software or other devices that maintain continuously active Internet connections when a computer’s connection would otherwise be idle, or “keep alive” functions. For example, you cannot use a Data Plan for Web broadcasting, or for the operation of servers, telemetry devices and/or supervisory control and data or (f) engaging in atypical web usage behavior.2. Protective MeasuresTo provide a good experience for the majority of our customers and minimize capacity issues and degradation in network performance; we may take measures including temporarily reducing data throughput for a subset of customers who use a disproportionate amount of bandwidth. Additionally, in the event that a customer is in violation of the Permissible and Prohibited Data Uses listed above, we may reduce your data speed for the remainder of that billing cycle or terminate data service without notice or refund. We may also suspend, terminate, or restrict your data session, Plan, or service if you use your Data Plan in a manner that interferes with other customers’ service, our ability to allocate network capacity among customers, or that otherwise may degrade service quality for other customers.
           

        • Mopar6464

          Here is the Simple Mobile data agreement :
          Simple Mobile
          No number, just a policy on responsible usage which you agree to when you subscribe.25. Additional Terms for Data Plans and FeaturesThe following terms apply to your data plan or feature (“Data Plan”). To the extent any term in your Data Plan expressly conflicts with the general Terms and Conditions, which also apply to your service, the term in your Data Plan will govern. Please read your Data Plan carefully.1. Permissible and Prohibited Data UsesYour Data Plan is intended for Web browsing, messaging, and similar activities on your device and not on any other equipment. Unless explicitly permitted by your Data Plan, other uses, including for example, tethering your device to a personal computer or other hardware, are not permitted.Examples of prohibited uses include but are not limited to: (a) server devices or host computer applications, including continuous Web camera posts or broadcasts, automatic data feeds, automated machine-to-machine connections or peer-to-peer (P2P) file-sharing applications that are broadcast to multiple servers or recipients, “bots” or similar routines that could disrupt net user groups or email use by others or other applications that denigrate network capacity or functionality; (b) as a substitute or backup for private lines or dedicated data connections; (c) any activity that adversely affects the ability of other users or systems to use either Simple Mobile’s services or the network-based resources of others, including the generation or dissemination of viruses, malware or “denial of service” attacks; (d) accessing, or attempting to access without authority, the information, accounts or devices of others, or to penetrate, or attempt to penetrate, Simple Mobile’s or another entity’s network or systems; or (e), running software or other devices that maintain continuously active Internet connections when a computer’s connection would otherwise be idle, or “keep alive” functions. For example, you cannot use a Data Plan for Web broadcasting, or for the operation of servers, telemetry devices and/or supervisory control and data or (f) engaging in atypical web usage behavior.2. Protective MeasuresTo provide a good experience for the majority of our customers and minimize capacity issues and degradation in network performance; we may take measures including temporarily reducing data throughput for a subset of customers who use a disproportionate amount of bandwidth. Additionally, in the event that a customer is in violation of the Permissible and Prohibited Data Uses listed above, we may reduce your data speed for the remainder of that billing cycle or terminate data service without notice or refund. We may also suspend, terminate, or restrict your data session, Plan, or service if you use your Data Plan in a manner that interferes with other customers’ service, our ability to allocate network capacity among customers, or that otherwise may degrade service quality for other customers.
           

      • CRT24

        Can you get a subsidised phone on simple mobile if you want? ….No
        Can you purchase a phone on installments with simple mobile?…..No
        Can you get warranty support for your phone……No they don’t sell phones directly so good luck if your phone breaks
        And with the value plans the price is the same….aside from no contract, how is simple mobile a BETTER option again??

        • Mopar6464

          Does most people want a contract ?…..No
          Does T-Mobile really offer any support lately that matters ?…No
          Can you buy a warranty outside of T-Mobile for any phone ?…Yes
          And with value plans higher than prepaid Simple Moble using the same towers/service , why would you sign a two year contract while paying more for the same thing.

        • CRT24

          For the reasons I just listed……and between ATT , Verizon, sprint, and T-Mobile they have 2 hundred million plus contract customers and simple mobile has what 1.5 million…….and once again the new value plan is 59.99 unlimited ttw….which is the same price.

        • Mopar6464

          “and once again the new value plan is 59.99 unlimited ttw….which is the same price.”

          Until T-Mobile changes its plans again before the aquisition completes.

          Simple Mobile==NO CONTRACT !
          New T-Mobile Plans==CONTRACT !

               

        • CRT24

          Then go get simple mobile dude! You are the one that said “the value plans are more than simple mobile” but they are not. Make your choice and be happy with it……simple mobile may be great for you but given the amount of customers they have obviously not very many people think so. The only advantage that simple mobile has is being no contract but I would say most customers want to get their phones through the company that they have service with so they don’t have to deal with phone manufacturers or third party warranty companies so get their phone fixed or replaced and if that means they sign a contract then so be it……no one including myself LIKES contracts but with contracts come concessions and you have to make the choice whether those concessions are worth the contract and if simple mobile works for you then be on your way and be happy with your decision.

        • Mopar6464

          I never said i was running out and switching to Simple Mobile DUDE , i was responding to your BS about ,

          “…..and please don’t come back with criket, boost, or some other BS regional prepaid carrier because everyone knows that the phone selection and coverage does not compare.    

          At the rate at which all wireless companies are raising the data costs so high , there is other options.
          True , MNVO companies ill never be as huge as the others but they are gaining millions of customers quickly because people are tired of the overpriced plans the big wireless companies keep increasing.
          That is what i was getting at.
          Just relax a little. 

           

        • Mopar6464

          I never said i was running out and switching to Simple Mobile DUDE , i was responding to your BS about ,

          “…..and please don’t come back with criket, boost, or some other BS regional prepaid carrier because everyone knows that the phone selection and coverage does not compare.    

          At the rate at which all wireless companies are raising the data costs so high , there is other options.
          True , MNVO companies ill never be as huge as the others but they are gaining millions of customers quickly because people are tired of the overpriced plans the big wireless companies keep increasing.
          That is what i was getting at.
          Just relax a little. 

           

        • CRT24

          I completely get your point that simple mobile is an option but it is not in the same class as any of the major carriers……simple mobile is in the same class with boost, criket, metro pcs, and other small pre-paid carriers. My original post that you responded to was directed at people who whine and complain about EVERYTHING that T-Mobile does but when you consider phone selection, network, customer service, and price, that the value of what you get for your money with T-Mobile is second to none…..contract or not.

        • CRT24

          I completely get your point that simple mobile is an option but it is not in the same class as any of the major carriers……simple mobile is in the same class with boost, criket, metro pcs, and other small pre-paid carriers. My original post that you responded to was directed at people who whine and complain about EVERYTHING that T-Mobile does but when you consider phone selection, network, customer service, and price, that the value of what you get for your money with T-Mobile is second to none…..contract or not.

        • CharlieSheenisaMoron

          you say you are responding to someone elses “BS” but responding to “BS” (although I dont see his post as BS) with your own BS is not exactly a way to put yourself in the right

        • Mopar6464

          Reread his post and maybe your clueless mind will figure out what part of the state in which i was responding to.
          Hint , the last part of it.

        • CharlieSheenisaMoron

          sorry, dont feel like humoring you tonight. just not in the mood to patronize those with low IQ

        • CharlieSheenisaMoron

          sorry, dont feel like humoring you tonight. just not in the mood to patronize those with low IQ

        • CharlieSheenisaMoron

          no contract=no obligation by simply mobile to keep your costs the way they are

        • Mopar6464

          No Contract==Options for those who like T-Mobile’s service but don’t want to be bent over by contracts.

        • CharlieSheenisaMoron

          tmo tried no contracts….a few times actually….people didnt care

        • Mopar6464

          “and once again the new value plan is 59.99 unlimited ttw….which is the same price.”

          Until T-Mobile changes its plans again before the aquisition completes.

          Simple Mobile==NO CONTRACT !
          New T-Mobile Plans==CONTRACT !

               

        • Barker1964

          I had EM+ 59.99 unlimited with 2GB  and I just switched to the “VALUE” plan I got GB and unlimited talk and text for 55.99 I also added international text for 5.00 so tell me why i Simple mobile better???? and why would I want to pay an outside company to handlw warranty on my phone???

        • Mopar6464

          Because T-Mobile’s warranty sucks and Asurion will bend you overbefore giving up a replacement phone anyways.
          Wait until you need to make a warrany claim , you’ll see.

        • CharlieSheenisaMoron

          yeah. I just had a warranty claim for two different phones in the last couple months. Got my phones the next day with free shipping. Why dont you “try again” lol

        • Mopar6464

          I’ve had two with my HD2 since i paid cash for it brand new.
          Each time it was like pulling teeth with T-Mobile or Asurion to get it replaced.
          Not to mention they kept sending me another defective replacement unit with no back cover that would fit the new phone.

        • CharlieSheenisaMoron

          yeah you do realize that back covers are universal. if your back cover did not fit on multiple different but same model devices iw ould assume its the cover not the devices

        • CharlieSheenisaMoron

          yeah. I just had a warranty claim for two different phones in the last couple months. Got my phones the next day with free shipping. Why dont you “try again” lol

        • Mopar6464

          I did’nt say Simple Mobile is better.
          I said it’s another option that uses T-Mobiles services.

        • Barker1964

          And the included 5GB before the throttle

        • Barker1964

          And the included 5GB before the throttle

        • Mopar6464

          Obviously prepaid services don’t give you the same amount of data caps.
          If your a data hog then yea , postpaid services would be better for you then.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E72NNLQAJACOXJL75BHIJTCXZU Steven

        Cannot have three way/conference calls on Simple….Bad news…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E72NNLQAJACOXJL75BHIJTCXZU Steven

        Cannot have three way/conference calls on Simple….Bad news…

        • Mopar6464

          Some people don’t need three way calling.

    • Mopar6464

      Simple Mobile does.
      You can use a iphone , HD2 , HD7 , or whatever you wish and get Unlimited Everything 3G/4G for $60.00 a month and uses T-mobile’s towers. And that price is with all fees and taxes included.
      So try again.

    • Mopar6464

      Simple Mobile does.
      You can use a iphone , HD2 , HD7 , or whatever you wish and get Unlimited Everything 3G/4G for $60.00 a month and uses T-mobile’s towers. And that price is with all fees and taxes included.
      So try again.

  • badaphooko01

    Man I’m confused! So the way I’m reading it, If I was to go with the 1000 value, 3 lines, 2gb of data it would cost me $84+ taxes a month and all I would have to do is bring my own phones and sign a two year? That is freakin cheap. Currently i pay $140 for 4 lines 700 shared min, 5gb data and 300 texts for me, 200 texts and 200mb data for my wife and 200 texts for my sons’s phone no data and a Tmobile@home line. With the value plan I could 1000 min, unlimited texts and 2gb of data for each. I’m gonna really have to think about this.   

  • http://twitter.com/WillieFDiazSF William Diaz ?

    Lets set something straight… T-Mobile REQUIRES a contract on the Value plan, even if you chose to pay the $10 for the SIM CARD AND Bring your own phone. Point blank, there is no “No-Contract” option unless you chose to go with T-Mobile’s ever changing prepaid plan, which they call Monthly4G.

    T-Mobile ALSO is trying to change EVERYONE who signed up on contract for the Truly Unlimited plan, or the Even More Unlimited Data plan to this, and they are doing it automatically, and it will show on the bill and it will show online – thus trying to deceive people into locking them into new Terms and Conditions. I personally have a chat script with someone I chatted with earlier today. When asked why my plan was changed 3x in the last 3 months, I was told it was to better reflect their new plans in the system. I told them I did not make authorized changes, nor was this what I signed to in my contract. When asked about the new Terms and Conditions, I was never told anything, he skirted the issue.

    Low and behold, I will leave T-Mobile, sell my phone, and then take them to court for a refund of the $200 ETF.

    DONT CHANGE PLANS ON PEOPLE WITHOUT RESIGNING THEIR CONTRACT T-MOBILE! ITS ILLEGAL!

    • http://twitter.com/KARMA773 Karma

      cant agree with you more. i have been with them for 9 yrs, always been happy until this eyar, rude, combative  phone and chat reps, bad service. Recently I signed up for new contract cos I got a free phone, after 10d ays i returned the phone, but they didn’t reverse the contract and instead made me  UPGRADABLE which means  i am still under 2 yrs  contract.

    • CharlieSheenisaMoron

      I find it funny how much you lie in your posting to try and make your point look strong. Good luck with that. 

    • CharlieSheenisaMoron

      I find it funny how much you lie in your posting to try and make your point look strong. Good luck with that. 

  • csr255

    Something to keep in mind, AT&T has not commented on what they are going to do with Pre-Paid services running on T-Mobile towers.  If you have a contract w/ T-Mobile then AT&T will honor the contract and the prices.  Would it be silly for AT&T to drop all the prepaid services, yes it would, but since there are no contracts they can change the prices any old way they want.  I really think the Wal-Mart pre-paid will change drastically after the takeover.

    Pre-Paid is a great way to save money and a fantastic option for many people.  What I tell my customers considering prepay is to check coverage in all areas they want to use their cell phones and be sure to set up an auto pay for their phone bill.  There are no bill extensions on pre-paid.  

    Some people just need to learn to get what is best for you and not get something because it is cool, hip and my best friend has one.  

    When I leave T-Mobile I will get onto the value plan.  I will have data because I use data.  

    I can wait to tell people that with the value plans you don’t have to have data, but your android phone may not work without it.  Especially if you forget your pattern lock and need to sign-in using your google ID or during TS you perform a master reset.

  • Anonymous

    I had an issue last night because of how busy I’ve been, I’d forgotten that today was *the* day until later last night. So around 10pm (Eastern) I called and told them I wanted to change my plan and was told that the system was down for maintenance – which caused me to lose my mind at this woman. All she could do through all my ranting and raving about how hard I got effed, technically, because they didn’t allow me to change my plan or make any changes hours before I knew they were going to be changed (nice effin move), was to tell me to call back tomorrow and maybe something can be worked out.  Knowing she was useless and not going to/able to help me, I hung up.

    Called back this morning, already heated *knowing* what was going to happen, I explained as calmly as possible what happened last night well (before their service centers closed), and how I was hoping they could extend me the possibility of converting my 500-minute Even More Plus w/unlimited text and data plan to the Unlimited Everything EMP plan. Needless to say, that didn’t happen and I lost it again.

    I didn’t mean to and I’m not normally that hot-headed, but I just can’t help but think that since this merger is likely to happen (unfortunately), that T-Mobile is purposely out to tarnish their once-excellent reputation. They used to have excellent customer service and now it’s just awful. Hell, if AT&T can say that people are fleeing T-Mobile to begin with, there is something wrong and we want to take their place. It makes sense. And unfortunately I’m soon going to be left with a Dell Venue Pro that will be utterly useless on any other carrier (Sprint? Verizon? Sure as hell not AT&T). It’s a goddamn shame.

    • PatheticLoser

      So lemme get this straight – YOU waited till the last minute knowing that the new plans were going into effect and that’s T-mobile’s fault? Anytime there is a massive change in the billing system its gonna be down. If you really did blow up at the Customer care reps you should be ashamed of yourself as the only person to blame in this is you.

    • PatheticLoser

      So lemme get this straight – YOU waited till the last minute knowing that the new plans were going into effect and that’s T-mobile’s fault? Anytime there is a massive change in the billing system its gonna be down. If you really did blow up at the Customer care reps you should be ashamed of yourself as the only person to blame in this is you.

      • Anonymous

        Your name suits you. Sorry I don’t have all the time in the world to make changes that they never even inform customers they are making. I had brought up the fact I had not been notified in changes, neither personally (which I wouldn’t expect) or via their newsletter, which I do expect.  They also let me know that they do not do that, and clearly the reason was simple: people likely would’ve done as I were going to do and upgraded well before this took place, effectively screwing them out of the amount of people they have under ball-and-chain (aka contract).  I run multiple businesses and have a decent social life, plus my bill gets paid automatically so I never have to really look at it unless there is an issue requiring my attention. Nevertheless, down time should be noted to users via newsletter.  Hell, what if someone were to be paying a bill that day and the bill were due that same day but they couldn’t get to the computer until late?  That person would be automatically late for payment, despite the fact they were going on.  My point is to let customers know so they can make arrangements.  When I called first, they had hours before the end of their day and apparently, according to the reps, the system had been down for many hours before I even called on Saturday and a few into Sunday. So even if I wanted to make the change earlier in the day, I had been given confidence that I likely would have been unable to. So, I apologize that you think I’m a douche, however I have better things on my plate to take care of. I was simply, and should-be understandably, annoyed beyond my wits and I certainly don’t like schysters taking advantage of people by not letting them know directly, again via email, that changes to –specifically T-Mobile’s– services were coming.

        • PatheticLoser

          I appreciate you starting your retort with name-calling. It makes the rest of your point of view easier to figure out. T-Mobile was under no obligation to tell you anything as it had no effect on your current service – which must have been working fine for you since you apparently chose your current plan. Billing systems are often taken down in advance of major changes like this. Believe it or not, but even with today’s tech you have to take the systems down to rewrite them. And I have no sympathy for someone that admits he waitied till the last minute to make a change he KNEW he needed/wanted to make then goes off on a helpless customer care representative that has NO control over the situation. I never called you a douche, but you certainly seem to be fitting the description.

        • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

          To be fair, you are on a 3rd party blog, and you knew when the new plan will come, you could’ve changed it anytime.
          It’s within t-mo’s right not to allow you after the plans changed, it would’ve been nice for them to allow you…but it’s not their obligation.

        • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

          To be fair, you are on a 3rd party blog, and you knew when the new plan will come, you could’ve changed it anytime.
          It’s within t-mo’s right not to allow you after the plans changed, it would’ve been nice for them to allow you…but it’s not their obligation.

    • theWayofThings

      Sounds to me like this is all on you… you waited till the last minute… when it couldn’t be completed for you by customer care, you acted like a complete jerk… I’m sorry but I can find no sympathy for your situation.

    • DIAMOND_PRINCE

      I have to agree with you. Before the merge when I called customer service they would answer within 15 minutes. And now it takes hours. It normally takes 2-3 hours for a rep to answer. It really sucks but i still love you tmobile. Step it up love.

      • theWayofThings

        That’s because since the announcement of the acquisition,  T-mobile has been very busy gutting the workforce at that the call-centers. It is an on-going campaign of firing reps left and right for the flimsiest of reasons and pressuring reps to quit… They call it “downsizing through natural attrition” and now call centers that used to house 700 csr’s now have around half of that..

        So, why aren’t your calls being answered in a timely manner? Because there’s barely anyone there to answer the calls.

  • Raging_bull_87

    How is this plan better than the prepaid monthly4g plans. To me it seems that the Monthly4g plans are way better. Monthly4g plan: bring your own phone, no contract, unlimited talk+ text + high speed internet, $70. Value plan: bring your own phone, contract, 500 min + text + 10gb internet, $90+?!?

    • Guest

      I had the same question. 

      • John@T-Mobile.com

        FYI T-MOBILE 4G MONTHLY PLANS ARE PREPAID (PREPAID NETWORK IS ALOT SMALLER SPECTRUM THAN NATIONAL POSTPAID SPECTRUM….NOT AS GOOD AS OF COVERAGE IN RURAL AREAS AND NO NATIONAL ROAMING)

        • Raging_bull_87

          thanks for the reply but you don’t have to yell. haha. It’s still the better plan for people who live in the cities anyway.

    • CRT24

      Are you comparing the $70.00 monthly 4g plan to the 500 minute plan with the 10gb data just to make your argument look better?…..the 70.00 plan only comes with 2gb of high speed data so the unlimited ttw value plan with 2gb data is $59.99……so aside from being contracted, so that’s how it is better…….but if that plan works better for you then go for it.

      • Raging_bull_87

        I’m not trying to argue. I’m just trying to make sense of all of this. Also, I don’t think the $70 Monthly 4g plan has a 2gb limit anymore. They change it to “unlimited high-speed internet” or at least that is how it is advertised on the t-mobile site. It seem that the only benefits of the new plans are that you get more options and that a family plan can be potentially cheaper, but I still think the Monthly 4g plan is a better value. 

      • LC

        It’s technically 5gb of full speed web, which is still quite a step up from the 2gb it use to be.

      • LC

        It’s technically 5gb of full speed web, which is still quite a step up from the 2gb it use to be.

  • Raging_bull_87

    How is this plan better than the prepaid monthly4g plans. To me it seems that the Monthly4g plans are way better. Monthly4g plan: bring your own phone, no contract, unlimited talk+ text + high speed internet, $70. Value plan: bring your own phone, contract, 500 min + text + 10gb internet, $90+?!?

  • Justaguy

    What a crock,I understand a 2 year contract, but asked what if I want to upgrade phones in 6 months or a year. Sorry we can’t do that with this plan. I said I understand if I upgraded the plan cost would change and I would need to put out money for the new phones. They said I can’t do that. That means I’m stuck with my phones for 2 years if I go with this plan. Heck my phones are already 2 years old( my touch). I have been with Tmobile 10 years. 2 years is a longgggg time in the cell phone world with new models coming out faster than you can count them. So let’s see 6 months down the road I pay more for an upgraded phone and service and Tmobile says sorry we cant do that!…….

    • CRT24

      You can buy a phone on these New plans whenever you want….you get your service for less and you actually have the same or even less up front phone cost in some cases with the value plan. Even when you factor in your installment payments for the remainder of your full cost phone at no interest you are still paying a little less than the classic plan by itself thus your total cost over the 2 years will be a little less than the classic plan with a subsidised phone, and far less than the other big 3 carriers. You have to wait 22 months from your initial activation or last upgrade to get your full discount on subsidised phones anyway….with the value plans your installments run out in 20 months and then you can buy your next phone with a down payment and pay the rest in installments again……you will still pay less overall. So this is far from a crock and has been explained numerous times that the overall cost is less for the value plans and I am baffled as to how people still don’t understand or accept this…..all you need to he able to do is basic math and you will see that this is the case.

      • Vlad2277

        You’re right, that’s exactly what I’ve been saying million times. You save at least $20 a month on every line, which makes it at least $500 over 2yrs, probably even more, including taxes.
        So add that to initial $200 payment and show me a phone that cost over $700 an dthen say this Value plan is bullshit.
        Mosty people who complaing here are basically saying I’m just going to punish T-Mobile, won’t sign a contract with them, but will instead go with another major carrier, pay double the price and think that they gave me $700 iPhone for $200. Who cares that you will be paying $115 for iPhone Plan, compared to same $60 T-Mobile Plan. For that kind of saving you can buy any 2 best phones of your choice from anything out on the market.

    • LC

      What do you mean you wouldn’t be able to upgrade? Of course you can, at any point, you would just have to pay off the first phone (if you had already purchased one on installment) when you purchase your next one. And depending on the phone you move into, your monthly rate might decrease.

      • Justaguy

        I was told by Tmobile that I could not upgrade to a new phone and had to stay with the 2year plan because I would be picking a value plane over the other that allows upgrades. I have 2 my touch phone that are paid for.

  • Justaguy

    What a crock,I understand a 2 year contract, but asked what if I want to upgrade phones in 6 months or a year. Sorry we can’t do that with this plan. I said I understand if I upgraded the plan cost would change and I would need to put out money for the new phones. They said I can’t do that. That means I’m stuck with my phones for 2 years if I go with this plan. Heck my phones are already 2 years old( my touch). I have been with Tmobile 10 years. 2 years is a longgggg time in the cell phone world with new models coming out faster than you can count them. So let’s see 6 months down the road I pay more for an upgraded phone and service and Tmobile says sorry we cant do that!…….

  • http://twitter.com/KARMA773 Karma

    recently upgraded all  family plan lines for new phones, called rep about the new VALUE PLAN, told me I have to pay $200 for each line  for migration fee.

    • LC

      And? This has been known for a while. The fee is dependant on where each line is at in their contract. Less time means smaller, or no, migration fee.

      • http://twitter.com/KARMA773 Karma

        200$ fee per line to change  the plan  sounds right? that is  a SCAM. I’d pay $200 ETF to leave TMO than pay $200 fee to stay with tmobile.  just dont understand why they are doing these crazy nonsense things. been with them for 9 yrs and this year is the strangest year for tmobile

        • LC

          It’s because you just got the subsidy on the handset, so it wouldn’t make sense for you to save quite a bit there, and then continue to save on the monthly rate. For some people who have less time on their contract but still have the $50 migration fee per line to move, it might make more financial sense but not for everyone, as you see in your case. If you changed your plan when you upgraded your lines then you’re probably saving yourself money anyways from your old plan.

          But ballerz, you would at this point have the $200 migration fee if you decided to change your plan. If you didn’t already do it when you bought the Sensation, you could possibly still save yourself some money by switching to one of the new Classic plans that launched in May without paying any sort of migration fee. It would just reset your agreement two years from that day.

        • guest

          i agree, I been with them 12 yrs and this is some crazy BS. 

        • theWayofThings

          This is really simple, and if you could swallow back some that constant outrage that you are always spewing, perhaps you could wrap your head around this concept.

          First of all it is not a SCAM… it is a choice.. You can stay with your current plan or move to a “classic” plan and not incur the charges.

          As for the reason for the 200.00 per line fees, now stay with me because this requires a little bit of rational thought here.. When you go to the Value plan, you are getting a discounted rate on your monthly bill in exchange for not getting a discount on phones, whereas if you go with a Classic plan, you pay more each month but you get a discount on phones… It’s one or the other, discounted plan or discounted phones.. Are you following me here?  Great!

          So, with that being said, in order to keep customers from SCAMMING the system by upgrading their phones at a discount THEN jumping over to the value plan to get the discount on their monthly bill (having their cake and eating it too, if you will) T-mobile put into place the 200.00 fee… Just like they did with EM+ migrations.

          See? Now wasn’t that simple? …and all that huffing puffing outrage for nothing… you can go about your happy little life now, knowing that you can keep your current rate-plan and future upgrade discounts.

      • http://twitter.com/KARMA773 Karma

        200$ fee per line to change  the plan  sounds right? that is  a SCAM. I’d pay $200 ETF to leave TMO than pay $200 fee to stay with tmobile.  just dont understand why they are doing these crazy nonsense things. been with them for 9 yrs and this year is the strangest year for tmobile

      • ballerz4life

        I just bought the Sensation @ Walmart and signed new 2 year deal, does this mean I will have to pay a migration fee?

    • Vibrant4G

      Mine is only 6 months old and I have to pay $150 for each… I guess you will have to wait a bit more

  • ballerz4life

    I must be confused, I thought I would be able to get the new plan for $99 a month for my family plan of two lines.  When it was explained before on this site, it showed a picture graph with a family plan unlimited talk and text and 2gb of data for $99 a month. Now, on the T-Mobile site and the advert on the side of this page is shows $69.99 per line for the family plan.  Am I missing something?

    • LC

      That’s probably the advertising for the Classic plans because I know there each line was $70 each for unlimited talk text web (at 2gb). That would just be my guess.

  • david

    Is there tethering available with value plans?

    • LC

      Yes, it’s just a separate feature, just like it is on the Classic plans.

  • ballerz4life

    You got me thinking so I went and looked at it again, here is the graph from this site:

    It says right here under Family Value Plans 2 Lines $99.98

    • LC

      Yeah, like I said, what you saw was probably for the Classic family plan for two lines.

      T-Mobile won’t be doing any serious advertising for this new line up until the first part of August to kind of ease all the sales teams into it and get everyone settled in if you will.

  • http://profiles.google.com/yogageeta Bhagiratha das

    They want to charge me an extra $35 activation fee to the family value plan. I already have two lines activated on the Even More Plus plan. 

    I asked the rep why I need to pay another activation fee for two lines that are ALREADY activated on their network?

    I couldn’t get a straight answer, and couldn’t find it in any fine-print when I search on tmo site.   

    • Vlad

      What are you talking about?
      What activation fee?
      This is not listed anywhere

    • LC

      There would only be the activation fee if you were activating a line. Depending on if your lines have a balance left on their contracts there might be a migration fee, but there isn’t one of $35…$50 would be the closest to that.

  • Anonymous

    According to T-Mo chat, which I just got done with, you do keep discounts, AAA, student etc, if you switch to Value plans, and the migration fee is all at once on the next bill.  So that actually makes this a little bit more enticing at least for me.

  • Anonymous

    According to T-Mo chat, which I just got done with, you do keep discounts, AAA, student etc, if you switch to Value plans, and the migration fee is all at once on the next bill.  So that actually makes this a little bit more enticing at least for me.

  • guest

    bunch of BS, on 2 lines a *migration fee* applied to new rate plan of $400, total !