Breakdown of New Classic and Value Plans!

I know we already told you about the new classic and value rate plans that are going into effect on July 24th, but now we have a great breakdown of what’s to come.  In the pictures below you will be able to see what the new plans will look like and see what the new plans will save you, and it looks like quite a bit in most cases.  Give it a look and follow the breakdown for more information.  Of course, as always, leave your thoughts in the comments!

So what are Value plans? According to our sources they are going to be very similar to Even More Plus plans with the biggest exception being they will now require contracts. T-Mobile will no longer have any non-contract offerings except for prepaid.

  • Value plans will be able to add unlimited text to family plans for $5 a line as no text bundles will be offered.
  • New data plan pricing for Value plans
    • 200MB for $5
    • 2GB for $10
    • 3GB for $15
    • 5GB for $25
    • 10GB for $55
    • No web features are required for value plans
  • Three new rate plan prices
    • 1000 Min for $49.99 with $5 add a line
    • 2000 Min for $59.99 with $5 add a line
    • Unlimited plan with $5 add a line for 500 minutes, $20 for unlimited
  • Value plans have 21 month Equipment Installment Plan for full price on equipment, the first month is paid up front.
  • Max EIP is $300 a line
  • Existing EIP plans cannot be cancelled, if you lose/break a phone have insurance
  • Two year contracts are REQUIRED
  • FIrst payment will be the same as traditional two year contract price on Classic plans
  • Migration fees from Classic to Value plans range from $0 to $200 depending on how far customer is in contract, out of contract has no migration fee
  • One a customer switches to value plan cannot go back to Classic Plan
  • Classic plans will no longer have Equipment Installment Options

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  • everyone will be forced to the new VALUE PLAN or  those like us who have older plan can keep out existing plan? also, phone for full price?

    • Yancy

      You will not be forced to move to any plan. You will be grandfathered into your old plan.

  • T-Mobile is falsely advertising Sprint’s price here.

    • Pikachu

      How about not… Simply everything $189.98/mo, plus $10 “premium data” charge per line = $209.98.

      owned.

      • How about 2GB cap on T-Mobile? Owned

        • Mopar6464

          Simply everything of the shi..tiest service.

        • Mopar6464

          Simply everything of the shi..tiest service.

        • Yancy

          Quit bitching troll and go find your cricket flip phone.. Good luck finding it becuase you cant call it becuase you have no service.

        • Mopar6464

          Quit bitching suckazz and keep drinking the koolaid.

        • Mopar6464

          Quit bitching suckazz and keep drinking the koolaid.

        • Pikachu

          That’s strange, where did you see cap? Pretty sure they’re unlimited.
          I think the word you’re looking for is “throttle”, looks like I take the showcase.

          Double owned!

        • So you prefer throttling? I’ll take true unlimited anyday. I think the real winner is me because Sprint is making all the right moves going forward

        • Yancy

          No Pikachu is the true winner. Who on earth needs to use more than 10 gigs of dada. T-mobile has throttled after 10 gig plans so quit bitching and go pay your 10 dollar 4g fee.

        • Anonymous

          people still say “owned”?

        • Of course you reply to me. Really? I was mocking the other guy. Why don’t you read fool.

        • Of course you reply to me. Really? I was mocking the other guy. Why don’t you read fool.

        • Anonymous

          people still say “owned”?

    • Pikachu

      How about not… Simply everything $189.98/mo, plus $10 “premium data” charge per line = $209.98.

      owned.

    • Pikachu

      How about not… Simply everything $189.98/mo, plus $10 “premium data” charge per line = $209.98.

      owned.

  • My question is… will Flex Play be terminated?
    if so will we have to switch over to these new plans? If thats not the
    case and we decide to add data like for ex the 3GB for 15 bucks will it
    go under the flex play account? please explain thank :)

  • My question is… will Flex Play be terminated?
    if so will we have to switch over to these new plans? If thats not the
    case and we decide to add data like for ex the 3GB for 15 bucks will it
    go under the flex play account? please explain thank :)

  • My question is… will Flex Play be terminated?
    if so will we have to switch over to these new plans? If thats not the
    case and we decide to add data like for ex the 3GB for 15 bucks will it
    go under the flex play account? please explain thank :)

  • My question is… will Flex Play be terminated?
    if so will we have to switch over to these new plans? If thats not the
    case and we decide to add data like for ex the 3GB for 15 bucks will it
    go under the flex play account? please explain thank :)

    • Kareempopal

      They said there going to start doing a flexpay to post deposit….50 bucks I believe

    • Kareempopal

      They said there going to start doing a flexpay to post deposit….50 bucks I believe

    • Anonymous

      I thought I read in here that T-Mobile terminated Flex Pay accounts.

    • Yancy

      I believe that they will allow some customers to stay on flex pay if it is the best option for the customer. But if you have better credit then before and you showed good payment history they will allow you to move to a contract plan without a deposit.

  • My question is… will Flex Play be terminated?
    if so will we have to switch over to these new plans? If thats not the
    case and we decide to add data like for ex the 3GB for 15 bucks will it
    go under the flex play account? please explain thank :)

  • My question is… will Flex Play be terminated?
    if so will we have to switch over to these new plans? If thats not the
    case and we decide to add data like for ex the 3GB for 15 bucks will it
    go under the flex play account? please explain thank :)

  • Anonymous

    One thing I still don’t get.  I have to pay a “migration fee”, which sure looks like an ETF, to go right back on a contract.  What crack are they smoking?

  • Anonymous

    One thing I still don’t get.  I have to pay a “migration fee”, which sure looks like an ETF, to go right back on a contract.  What crack are they smoking?

    • Mopar6464

      The way T-mobile keeps going you might as well go to Simple Mobile.
      $60/month unlimted with tax and fees included.
       
       

      • Yancy

        T-mobile is going great. I don’t know where your coming from?

        • Mopar6464

          Wake up loser , only for a short period of time before AT&T-Mobile is complete.

      • Yancy

        T-mobile is going great. I don’t know where your coming from?

    • Mopar6464

      The way T-mobile keeps going you might as well go to Simple Mobile.
      $60/month unlimted with tax and fees included.
       
       

    • Yancy

      You only have to pay a migration fee if you are in contract. So if you are out of contract no migration fee for you. If you wanted to switch to a classic plan on contract you would not need to pay a migrations fee those are only for switching to a value plan while in a 2 year agreement.

    • Yancy

      You only have to pay a migration fee if you are in contract. So if you are out of contract no migration fee for you. If you wanted to switch to a classic plan on contract you would not need to pay a migrations fee those are only for switching to a value plan while in a 2 year agreement.

  • Gnabme1st

    My question is about the Family plans… Say you want to switch over, but some lines expire later than others. Do you have to switch all lines at once and pay those fees for all lines, or can you switch say the main two line, and then do the others as the fee goes down…? Hmm I hope so :/

  • Gnabme1st

    My question is about the Family plans… Say you want to switch over, but some lines expire later than others. Do you have to switch all lines at once and pay those fees for all lines, or can you switch say the main two line, and then do the others as the fee goes down…? Hmm I hope so :/

  • Guest

    Is this supposed to save more money than the current plans?

  • Guest

    Is this supposed to save more money than the current plans?

  • Anonymous

    So currently I pay $140 (taxes and fees included) for 2 lines, unlimited everything, on EM+

    With the Vibrant that I am still paying on (even though I sold the phone months ago, LOL) my OTD monthly bill is $163.

    If I stay with T-Mobile (I am trying out Metro PCS, with a Samsung Indulge) seems I should stay put with my EM+ since $70 OTD for each line is cheap, albeit 2 lines with Metro PCS, including premium 4G, is $55 OTD per line.  So with Metro that’s $360 savings total per year.  That’s a lot.  And if I went with non-premium data, the savings is $720 annually, that’s a lot in anyone’s book.

    Note: Remember, you have to add about $8 to $10 in fees/taxes to each line when calculating the real cost of these services (here in California we get killed on extra fees).  You don’t have to do that with Metro or other prepaids because the price quoted includes fees and taxes.

    Sidenote: I have been using an HTC Sensation and that phone puts Metro’s Samsung Indulge to shame.  But then again, paying $300 more a year (in services) to have a tricked out phone, I doubt that’s worth it, especially since I am now using my tablets for multimedia rather than the phones (I have the ASUS Transformer and Acer Iconia A500).

    More thinking out loud:  It is nice having the HTC Sensations 1080p HD camcorder and 8MP camera with me at all times.  So for me, having a quality camcorder/camera on the phone is something to take into account when deciding which was to go with all this.

    Bonus Sidenote:  So far Metro PCS has been working well.  Data speed is fine (it’s really 3G, not 4G IMHO) and call quality is good.  I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, FYI.

    • n900mixalot

      I hate phone contracts. I enjoy knowing exactly how much I’m paying every month.

      Eff this.

    • n900mixalot

      I hate phone contracts. I enjoy knowing exactly how much I’m paying every month.

      Eff this.

    • n900mixalot

      I hate phone contracts. I enjoy knowing exactly how much I’m paying every month.

      Eff this.

  • Terrible Toby

    Not sure I understand this completely, is this only for new customers?…I’m currently on the Even More Plus family plan. Will I have to change to the new value plan or as long as I don’t make any changes to my plan I can continue on the Even More Plus plan?

    • Yancy

      This is for new and existing customers. If you don’t change anything to your plan you will be able to keep your EM+ plan.

    • Yancy

      This is for new and existing customers. If you don’t change anything to your plan you will be able to keep your EM+ plan.

  • Terrible Toby

    Not sure I understand this completely, is this only for new customers?…I’m currently on the Even More Plus family plan. Will I have to change to the new value plan or as long as I don’t make any changes to my plan I can continue on the Even More Plus plan?

  • Jaygqitalia

    I currently pay 59.99 for unlimited everything EM+ with no contract. I mean it seems somewhat alright for me to switch to the value plan for the same price and at least get a new phone for the normal price. I wouldnt mind paying a max of 15 more a month cuz in the end its still cheaper then the CLASSIC plan for 79.99 a month. BUT tmobile offered me when i called yesterday 69.99 a month for the 79.99 a month plan if i agreed to a 2 year contract and of course i get a new phone at discounted price. Hmm i dunno what to do. The one offered to me seems like a better deal.

    • n900mixalot

      Best thing to do? WAIT. Don’t fall for contracts.

    • n900mixalot

      Best thing to do? WAIT. Don’t fall for contracts.

    • n900mixalot

      Best thing to do? WAIT. Don’t fall for contracts.

  • Jaygqitalia

    Another question I have is. What happens if I want to pay off the phone in full 6 months later with a payment? Can you even do that? And if so , Could i get another phone as soon as that one is paid off? These are the questions im curious about

    • Yancy

      Yes, You will just have to call customer care or go into a retail store and tell them you want to pay it off and they will let you do that.

    • Yancy

      Yes, You will just have to call customer care or go into a retail store and tell them you want to pay it off and they will let you do that.

  • So My ‘My Faves’ Family plan has no EIP anymore? Or, is it just the ‘new’ Classic plans????? I would have NO EIP unless I switch to pre-paid?  I hope I’m reading this wrong….

    • Yancy

      The value plans are not prepaid. You still sign a 2 year agreement you just get cheaper rates even with the EIP in the bill.

      • So Classic plan is pre-paid then?

  • Kat

    Is there any change from the Even More plan when it turns into Classic as far as pricing?  This seems to focus on the Value plans.  I was planning to switch our rate plan since it’s gone down $20.00 from what we were paying, but from this I can’t tell if it’s going to go down even more.

  • Kat

    Is there any change from the Even More plan when it turns into Classic as far as pricing?  This seems to focus on the Value plans.  I was planning to switch our rate plan since it’s gone down $20.00 from what we were paying, but from this I can’t tell if it’s going to go down even more.

  • Kat

    Is there any change from the Even More plan when it turns into Classic as far as pricing?  This seems to focus on the Value plans.  I was planning to switch our rate plan since it’s gone down $20.00 from what we were paying, but from this I can’t tell if it’s going to go down even more.

  • Rafagloria12

    Can someone please explain what EIP and EM+ is? Thanks in advance

  • Rafagloria12

    Can someone please explain what EIP and EM+ is? Thanks in advance

    • Yancy

      EIP is equipment installment plan. So on the value plan you will need to purchase the phone you want at retail price. Example if the phone you purchased was 500$ you have a 300 EIP and so you will have to pay 200$ plus the first months EIP upfront. So you will pay like 230$ which would be the same price or a little cheaper than if you got the phone with a discount on the classic plan or any other plan. So you will get cheaper rates but have to pay for the EIP every month, but it still comes out to be cheaper than the classic plans.

  • Onebirmingham

    I will keep my old my fave it work well from me whit Google voice

    • Wow happy to hear someone else still has the Fave plan. I don’t want to change it either. $170 mo for 3 lines, one $10 data, one $30 data (5 Gig), and an @Home line. I am concerned IF the buyout goes thru that this plan I have won’t though.

      • CRT24

        You can switch to an all unlimited plan for.the same price with the same data elections for your lines……with unlimited, faves won’t matterajd you could save another 30.00 if you did a 500 minute 3rd line instead of unlimited and drop your 5gb data to 2gb.

  • MS

    I hope I can switch to value plan, keep my phone I have now and pay no migration fee?  Hope hope hope

    • LC

      You’d pay a migration fee if you had any period left on your current contract.

    • LC

      You’d pay a migration fee if you had any period left on your current contract.

    • LC

      You’d pay a migration fee if you had any period left on your current contract.

    • LC

      You’d pay a migration fee if you had any period left on your current contract.

    • LC

      You’d pay a migration fee if you had any period left on your current contract.

  • MS

    I hope I can switch to value plan, keep my phone I have now and pay no migration fee?  Hope hope hope

  • MS

    I hope I can switch to value plan, keep my phone I have now and pay no migration fee?  Hope hope hope

  • guest

    So two unlimited lines with 2gig no overage data is 99.98 if I am reading that correctly. That is an AMAZINGLY low price. That beats or ties companies like metro and boost but with REAL 4g and nation wide service, not to mention REAL customer service. I applaud these new plans. The ENTIRE cell phone community will slowly be moving to cheap plans and full price phones. Guaranteed. The subsidizing of phones and the GREED of customers has gotten too large. People want phones that cost T-Mobile over $400 per for free and then every four months they come in to bitch about how it’s not the best. Now if only they had the damn unlimited cell to cell calling option.

  • I HAVE 1500 MINS, 5 LINES  WITH UNLIMITED TEXTS  for $100
    BEFORE TAX. no add a line fees until end of this year and  Data  is $15
    200mb or $30 unlimited no $10 data on this cos they say its grand
    fathered plan. if I want the $10 data now, they are saying I will have 
    to switch to  different plan which then i can save on the data on my
    lines but will forfeit my free add a line fees for 3 lines.

    from 2012, my plan will cost me $30 more  for 3 add a line fees.
    becos of 3 add a line fees but I can get the $10  200mb data.  I have andriod phones  on my lines but cant  afford the  $30  data, I need the 200mb $10 datas

    looking at this, is it best I change my plan now or  wait for VALUE PLANS?

  • I HAVE 1500 MINS, 5 LINES  WITH UNLIMITED TEXTS  for $100
    BEFORE TAX. no add a line fees until end of this year and  Data  is $15
    200mb or $30 unlimited no $10 data on this cos they say its grand
    fathered plan. if I want the $10 data now, they are saying I will have 
    to switch to  different plan which then i can save on the data on my
    lines but will forfeit my free add a line fees for 3 lines.

    from 2012, my plan will cost me $30 more  for 3 add a line fees.
    becos of 3 add a line fees but I can get the $10  200mb data.  I have andriod phones  on my lines but cant  afford the  $30  data, I need the 200mb $10 datas

    looking at this, is it best I change my plan now or  wait for VALUE PLANS?

  • Anonymous

    As I set my example in the other blog. I do find this value plans to be better and cheaper comparing to the other carriers. If T-Mobile carries the iPhone, then I think t-mobile can be the winner since nowadays it seems that some people go with phone over plans/rates. I rather pay for the price of the phone than to be locked into having a data plan that sometime i may don’t need that much.

  • Anonymous

    As I set my example in the other blog. I do find this value plans to be better and cheaper comparing to the other carriers. If T-Mobile carries the iPhone, then I think t-mobile can be the winner since nowadays it seems that some people go with phone over plans/rates. I rather pay for the price of the phone than to be locked into having a data plan that sometime i may don’t need that much.

  • Guest

    Sorry if this has been asked before: If I’m currently on the EM+ plus, will I be able to switch to a new phone after July 24th and still keep my EM+ plan? Or will I be forced into the Value plan when activating a new phone? Thanks for the help!

    • Matt Henry

      you can purchase the phone full price and keep your plan. if you want a discount on a phone you go classic. if you want eip, you go value.

      • Guest

        Good to know. Thanks for the response!

    • Anonymous

      If you supply your own phone T-Mobile does not do anything with your plan.

      But see my other posts, T-Mobile can terminate, change or suspend your account for any reason, no reason or ridiculous reason, without notice.

      http://litigationuniverse.com/TMobileTerminationRights.pdf

      So if T-Mobile wants to do away with EM+ accounts immediately if not sooner or instantly as if by magic, it can do so, just as it can terminate these value and classic plan contracts at any time it wants, even though people in here think that T-Mobile is bound for two years on these deals.

  • callmeotter

    Im so confused by all this; of course I called Tmo and the rep said she never heard of any of this, but in general my experience with Tmo service over the last 18 months has been horrendous; its really gone down hill.  Not really understanding the programs or the values.  It seems if you have to pay for the phone, why wouldnt you go for one of the smaller resellers who give you unlimited talk, text, web for $45-50 …Boost now even reduces your price $5 for every 6 mos you pay ontime so that in 18 mos. youre at a $35 unlimited talk/text/data plan….  Im just wondering what to do cuz Im still on an old 39.99/1000 min plus free nights.weekends (and receive free international calls, which I get a lot of)…But life can change, and i might make new friends who text a lot or need web; My other big consideration is whether Id want an iphone since I just got a MacbookPro for a present and it would be nice to have a compatible cell phone so that all my programs would sync…I dont know what to do but my contract just ran out, and with the ATT merger coming, I know if Im not on a contract extension, ATT wont honor my plan as they only give you 450 minutes for the price Im getting 1000+.   I guess Im not seeing how these plans are ‘cheaper’…I always thought the one advantage of the companies like Tmo is that they were subsidizing the phone; otherwise go with the lesser companies… or go with Walmart Family Mobile which basically is a Tmobile reseller for $45.  Also many of the companies have pre-pay plans that are cheaper than their regular plans (For example ATT will give you a prepay unlimited talktext plan for $50 or you can sign a 2 year contract and pay $60 for 900 minutes with no text.  I wish someone would come up with a cheaper iphone plan…In other countries, theres a lot more competition,a nd I guess there are rumors that Iphone may go to Sprint ….I think the ATT Tmo merger will be very bad for consumers.  The US cell market is so confusing to me…and I dont have a landline so I worry about companies like Boost or Metro PCS or Virgin that dont have local stores so that I cant get a temporary loaner when the phone eventually malfunctions.

    • Khgkhgcv

       why would u ask a rep about a confidential rateplan project that tmo hasnt even confirmed? and btw if you go with walmart family mobile its also a tmo call center they’re the same agents just a different queue

    • Khgkhgcv

       why would u ask a rep about a confidential rateplan project that tmo hasnt even confirmed? and btw if you go with walmart family mobile its also a tmo call center they’re the same agents just a different queue

  • callmeotter

    So if you have a working phone you like, will you get to have the value plan? Maybe I just need to extend my 39.99 plan to lock it in for 2 years cuz I assume ATT would have to honor it if Im under contract…although some people have told me thats not true.  I dont know what the merger laws are.  Im sure at the time of the merger, theyll have special promotions for Tmob customers , esp those that want an iphone, and if  youre locked into some other contract now, you may not be able to get them.  Isnt it wierd that they are introducing all these new price structures when theyre going to go out of existence by next year.  It doesnt make sense to me

    • Jaygqitalia

      Ur worried to much about ATT. Its already been stated that plans will be honored when the contract goes thru. Even the even more plus no contracts planned will be honered. The only way u lose ur plan is if u ever upgrade the plan or change it.

      • Anonymous

        Really?  Can you provide written evidence that “plans will be honored when the contract goes thru.”  (Just the way you said that indicates you don’t have any evidence nor do you know what you are talking about.)

        • Peter

          I know someone that has high rank job in T-Mobile. From what he told me after merge AT&T will honor all T-Mobile current customer plans.

          However after your contract is over when you wanna get new phone (let say 2 years from now) then AT&T can and will force you to change your plan to one of their plan..

          Plus T-Mobile current badwidth and frequency will discountine in 2 years and AT&T slowly will convert it to LTE therefore in 2 years all T-Mobile customers have to get phones with AT&T badwidth and frequency means your current T-Mobile will not work anymore and you need new phone.

          So all I ca tell from March 2012 till March 2014 (The most) you are safe with your current T-Mobile plan and service after that you have to do whatever AT&T tell you to do.

        • Gm Aharrington1

          This is great! You are correct about how they will force people to their plans. Proof is in the history of AT&T from after the split of ma bell. Both AT&T and VZW have acquired companies and they have jacked everyone over. The point I want to add to your statement is quite simple. I have been in an area that T-mobile had NO SERVICE, I switched over to AT&T service and phone worked just fine. Fyi that was 3 years ago. So, frequency and phone not working is a BS comment. They will intentionally block those frequencies to force people to their contracts. Watch how many times in the next 2 years if the deal goes through that people will complain about dropped calls. The response will be it’s because of the frequency of your phone will be the response. Most will switch because they can’t live without their phone. That’s how they will get you. All the while lying to you about the frequency difference messing it up.
          A finally thought, what if T-mobile knew it would get blocked and they end up with $6 billion?

      • callmeotter

        But that means you have to be under contract… My contract apparently expired so I probably have to sign a contract for it to be honored since the 39.99 for 1000 min plan doesnt exist (and only existed for a few weeks)….so Im waiting to see..but definitely ATT will not honor plans after your contract expires; they will force you into their plans which are more expensive…but yes im a worrier by nature

      • callmeotter

        But that means you have to be under contract… My contract apparently expired so I probably have to sign a contract for it to be honored since the 39.99 for 1000 min plan doesnt exist (and only existed for a few weeks)….so Im waiting to see..but definitely ATT will not honor plans after your contract expires; they will force you into their plans which are more expensive…but yes im a worrier by nature

      • callmeotter

        But that means you have to be under contract… My contract apparently expired so I probably have to sign a contract for it to be honored since the 39.99 for 1000 min plan doesnt exist (and only existed for a few weeks)….so Im waiting to see..but definitely ATT will not honor plans after your contract expires; they will force you into their plans which are more expensive…but yes im a worrier by nature

  • callmeotter

    One other thing, why do they charge you upgrade fees or offer you more expensive prices than new customers?  I was always taught that it costs a company MUCH MORE to attract a NEW customer than to keep an EXISTING customer…yet it seems companies like TMob do everything they can to drive existing customers away.  Ive been them forever and yet I havent even gotten a letter, email, call – nothing – since my contract expired.  IN past, I wouldve gotten letters saying how much they valued my business, how if I signed a new contract, Id get a month free or this or that special promotion, and now NOTHING.  Price wise th e smaller companies seem attractive unless you want an iphone.  I honestly dont know anybody who uses Tmobile…Everyone I know seems to have ATT

    • Jaygqitalia

      Look at the picture on top and realize why tmobile is better then all of those. Its alot more expensive to go with other companies. I think giving the cheapest plans you can find is a pretty good way to keep an existing customer

    • Marcus Edwards

      sprint still has the cheapest plans so it looks like i will be going there because they have an unlimited plan with 750 landline minutes and unlimited data and texts and free mobile calling for 79.99. Carriers must realize that in today’s economy there is no need to have a 200 dollar smartphone is the customer can not use it to its full potential.

      • CRT24

        How is that a cheaper plan? If it is unlimited why is there a limited amount of landline minutes? T-Mobile is 79.99 for unlimited TTW and you don’t have to pay the extra 10.00 just to have a 4G phone whether you are in a 4G area or not……try again

      • callmeotter

        Isnt it cheaper to go with something like Boost or the other resellers who offer unlimited phone text and data for $45-50…Boost goes down to only $35 if you pay  your bills on time for 18 mos…I guess it depends if you want the latest phones.  I guess wait and see what comes out. I used to be so loyal to Tmo but their reps have lied to me and not followed thru on all their promises so often in the last year, I dont feel the same ties to them anymore…Unfortunate cuz their local store manager has always been so helpful and even he has apologized and said he’s embarassed by how CustomerCare handled everything…especially since he was on the phone and heard what they said they would do, and then saw what they didnt.

      • callmeotter

        Isnt it cheaper to go with something like Boost or the other resellers who offer unlimited phone text and data for $45-50…Boost goes down to only $35 if you pay  your bills on time for 18 mos…I guess it depends if you want the latest phones.  I guess wait and see what comes out. I used to be so loyal to Tmo but their reps have lied to me and not followed thru on all their promises so often in the last year, I dont feel the same ties to them anymore…Unfortunate cuz their local store manager has always been so helpful and even he has apologized and said he’s embarassed by how CustomerCare handled everything…especially since he was on the phone and heard what they said they would do, and then saw what they didnt.

    • Anonymous

      As I have posted before, when there’s a merger or acquisition, the employees of company being absorbed know that there’s going to be mass terminations.  In other words, most T-Mobile employees come March 2012, if the acquisition if approved, are going to be fired.

      T-Mobile employees know this.  Right now morale is low, loyalty does not exist and employees (from top management down to trainees) are busy updating resumes, searching wants ads and going on job interviews.  Employees are marking time, doing a little as they can to continue getting a paycheck. 

      End result for customers, I doubt anyone at T-Mobile gives a rip about retaining customers.  That’s why T-Mobile is not sending you letters or soliciting for your continued business.

      • callmeotter

        I understand all that, but the upgrade fees and phone prices for existing customers vs new customers have been policies they’ve had for years.  But if Tmob goes away in early 2012 , why are they even bother to roll out new plans a half year before they will cease to exist?  Just trying to capture as many new customers now that then can be screwed over by switching to higher ATT fees?  I just got a Macbook as a present so have been to the Apple store every day and even their manager tells me the ATT fees are crazy…and thats why if you read Apple blogs/forums, there are a lot of rumors that when a new iphone is released (perhaps as early as Fall), there might be a lower-end iphone to compare with much cheaper Android phones.  Apple has been able to really expand their computer business by getting so may iphone customers who then switch to Mac because they like their experience and want everything to sync.  (Because of a problem I was at t he store the other day for 8 hours so Ive gotten to know the employees and managers real well)

      • theWayofThings

        Well Mike, again you show how little you know about how things are inside T-mobile.

        Reps are NOT just marking time and doing as little as possible. They know their fates are uncertain and are doing everything in their power to keep their jobs.

        The mass terminations are going on RIGHT NOW.. Ask we speak… T-mobile is diligently working towards getting rid of as many reps as possible BEFORE the acquisition is complete for a very simple reason, less reps = less severence/retention pay-outs… and the reps are doing their absolute best to survive long enough to see which one they will get.

        If you are seeing a drop in the quality of the care you get from the reps, it not the reps’ idea… they are doing their damdedest to do what they are told to do. Management wants none of the frilly lovey-dovey stuff that used to set T-mobile reps apart from other companies. They want everything done in record time and above all else, SELL SELL SELL!!! Reps are threatened and harassed and pressured every single day to make sure that they are doing everything possible to not lower the customers’ monthly reoccurring charges and sell them more features… That’s what the reps are dealing with and they aren’t taking it lightly.

        You are only right about two things: One – morale is extremely low.. and it’s all coming from watching their coworkers being fired left and right, and knowing that their heads are on the chopping block every day. Each month the expectations change, systems don’t work properly, and accuracy of the record-keeping for said expectations is dubious at best. Two – Keeping an eye out for another job. … That’s all you are right about.

        Until you sit at a desk at a T-mobile call center and actually experience what it is to be a T-mobile Customer Care rep at this point in time, you have no business preaching about how things are inside the call center or what motivates the reps.

        You are speaking with no knowledge, insight or validity… It would be nice if you stopped talking out of your ass.

        • Yfhtf

           its sad because i work in a service partner call center for tmo and they are on a hiring frenzy to cover call volume untill att takes over then we get a new client

    • Anonymous

      As I have posted before, when there’s a merger or acquisition, the employees of company being absorbed know that there’s going to be mass terminations.  In other words, most T-Mobile employees come March 2012, if the acquisition if approved, are going to be fired.

      T-Mobile employees know this.  Right now morale is low, loyalty does not exist and employees (from top management down to trainees) are busy updating resumes, searching wants ads and going on job interviews.  Employees are marking time, doing a little as they can to continue getting a paycheck. 

      End result for customers, I doubt anyone at T-Mobile gives a rip about retaining customers.  That’s why T-Mobile is not sending you letters or soliciting for your continued business.

  • Makoute

    I still don’t understand why you have to be on a contract when you are paying for the phone outright.  Makes no sense.

  • Makoute

    I still don’t understand why you have to be on a contract when you are paying for the phone outright.  Makes no sense.

    • Jaygqitalia

      Im curious if they have to run a credit check even if ur an existing customer to get those monthly things. I know i dont qualify right now with my even more plus cuz of credit. Curious if its the same with these value plans. I doubt it though

      • n900mixalot

        It’s a contract so you can assume they will. But, if you’ve been on prepaid for a long time and you’ve paid regularly they may let your credit go. Who knows. They are going to do what they can to keep you, and if they see you’ve been paying your bill for months on prepaid they will probably do what they can to get you on a contract because they know you’re more reliable.

        • Jaygqitalia

          Im not on prepaid. Im on the Em+ .. been a customer for years .. Im just saying i cant do phone payments over 20 months now cuz i dont qualify for the credit of the price of the phone

        • Anonymous

          If you are a T-Mobile customer, it does not run an external credit check for EIP, the CSR looks at the screen and sees for what amount you are qualified to “finance.”  If you have always paid late, etc. T-Mobile might let you only float $100.  If a good customer you will be able to do an EIP on the max amount.

          AFAIK  the only time T-Mobile runs your credit is if you add a line.

        • Jaygqitalia

          That would explain it. I never pay when its due. I always wait till the text comes to my phone saying im past due. That means it get turns off the next day for those of you who dont know. Hmm guess ill start paying on time and avoiding that damn 5 dollar fee every month

        • Jaygqitalia

          That would explain it. I never pay when its due. I always wait till the text comes to my phone saying im past due. That means it get turns off the next day for those of you who dont know. Hmm guess ill start paying on time and avoiding that damn 5 dollar fee every month

    • Girth Brooks

      You don’t have to – choose prepaid.  This plan requires it because you have the option for ridiculously cheap plans (mainly for families) and the reason they offer it is because they know they have you for 2 years.  It’s a weird concept, signing a contract and not getting a phone discount, but in some cases it makes more sense.

      • n900mixalot

        It makes sense for their bottom line and for their presentation to AT&T, to have more folks on contract.

    • Girth Brooks

      You don’t have to – choose prepaid.  This plan requires it because you have the option for ridiculously cheap plans (mainly for families) and the reason they offer it is because they know they have you for 2 years.  It’s a weird concept, signing a contract and not getting a phone discount, but in some cases it makes more sense.

    • Popular

      you sign a contract for a difference between normal plan and discounted plan.

    • no 2 att

      I think the whole thing with purchasing a phone outright, and having a cheaper rate is incase this whole mess with att goes through, that waythey have to honour your contact for the stated length of time.

  • Makoute

    I still don’t understand why you have to be on a contract when you are paying for the phone outright.  Makes no sense.

  • Makoute

    I still don’t understand why you have to be on a contract when you are paying for the phone outright.  Makes no sense.

  • Brady

    If you buy a premium smartphone from eBay and activate it through the value plan (which it says at the bottom of 1 of the pictures that you can do) Do you still have to pay the extra $15 dollars a month?

    • Girth Brooks

      No, because you would have no phone on the EIP.  It would just be your plan + features plus tax.  It still would require a 2YR contract though.

    • Girth Brooks

      No, because you would have no phone on the EIP.  It would just be your plan + features plus tax.  It still would require a 2YR contract though.

      • Brady

        Ok, Thanks!

      • Brady

        Ok, Thanks!

      • n900mixalot

        Fuuuuuuuuug that shizz. But, that’s the way things are headed. We’ve reached the end of the line for no-contract phone freedom in the US. While the rest of the WORLD begins to embrace phone portability and GSM, the US clings to 2 year contracts and CDMA.

        It was fun while it lasted.

        [Girth Brooks, aye?]

        • Anonymous

          T-Mo is GSM.  There are plenty of no contract options available in the US, though only the major carriers carry the latest high end phones.

  • Tmobile

    Does anyone know if cost-co will still sell T-mobile plans? Because they always have cheaper phones and do not charge activation fees!

  • Tmobile

    Does anyone know if cost-co will still sell T-mobile plans? Because they always have cheaper phones and do not charge activation fees!

  • Anonymous

    Certainly a step in the right direction.  it’s time to do the math again with the new rates factored in.  Last time I did the exercise your total out of pocket expense over two years was still cheaper with the subsidy despite the higher monthly rate if you had high end phones.  And if you’re not using a high end phone, Virgin Mobile, Boost, et. al. sell the hardware for less and still undercut the pricing a bit.  But definitely a step in the right direction.  It’s almost enough to have me considering renewing the contract before knowing the AT&T merger is blocked.  I’ve had good luck with T-Mo over the past few years, but I’m not sticking around for AT&T.

  • Anonymous

    Certainly a step in the right direction.  it’s time to do the math again with the new rates factored in.  Last time I did the exercise your total out of pocket expense over two years was still cheaper with the subsidy despite the higher monthly rate if you had high end phones.  And if you’re not using a high end phone, Virgin Mobile, Boost, et. al. sell the hardware for less and still undercut the pricing a bit.  But definitely a step in the right direction.  It’s almost enough to have me considering renewing the contract before knowing the AT&T merger is blocked.  I’ve had good luck with T-Mo over the past few years, but I’m not sticking around for AT&T.

  • Boss2688

    the real question is this what is this comment really mean “Migration fees from Classic to Value plans range from $0 to $200
    depending on how far customer is in contract, out of contract has no
    migration fee”. compared to the hidden “extend all lines on your account” gimmick from the EM plans to get everyone to switch for the $10 200 mb data, how do they evaluate how much you have to pay to switch to the new classic plans, thats what CC will have to be explaining all day long for the next 3 months, please more details so 3rd party dealers can explain it.

    • LC

      3rd party retailers aren’t going to be offering the value plans because they don’t have access to EIP. This will only be an option in corporate owner stores.

    • LC

      3rd party retailers aren’t going to be offering the value plans because they don’t have access to EIP. This will only be an option in corporate owner stores.

    • LC

      3rd party retailers aren’t going to be offering the value plans because they don’t have access to EIP. This will only be an option in corporate owner stores.

      • Boss2688

        That aside an explanition will still need to be had, evryone will be intrested in them regradless of who sells the plan I’ve explained em plus every day since it came out, mainly to people cc switched to and didn’t expain the details about it, no offense but em plus was and is a bad idea and I think this is too

  • david

    Is there a migration fee if you go from one VALUE plan to another VALUE plan? i.e (500 minutes to 1000 minutes)

    • Alysjame

      No

  • david

    Is there a migration fee if you go from one VALUE plan to another VALUE plan? i.e (500 minutes to 1000 minutes)

  • david

    Is there a migration fee if you go from one VALUE plan to another VALUE plan? i.e (500 minutes to 1000 minutes)

  • Jayboi

    So no free phones or discounted prices + 2yr contract ?
    This is complete bs.

    • Alysjame

      Yes there is on the”classic” plans just not the “valued” plans

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  • Carl

    The graphic says 2 lines for 69.98 for 2000 minutes, but the article says 59.99 plus $5 add a line.

    Am I reading it wrong, or is there a mistake?

  • TheHonestyCorner

    I think these new plans are ridiculous.  I understand contracts when providers discount the phones – that way they can recoup the discounted cost of the phones and the customer can enter into an expensive contract for less initial outlay.

    But if there is no discounted phone, it is completely nonsense to require a contract.  Simply offer a great product with great service at a great price, and people will WANT to stay with your business.  Requiring a contract simply says that you know another firm is going to offer something better, and so you are trying to get people without foresight to lock into a commitment to do business with you.  If you have the best product, you don’t need a contract locking your customers into purchasing your product.

    I am guessing that this whole thing is a desperate attempt to generate contract numbers for some not-publicly-disclosed objective, as opposed to providing customers what they really want.  If it was about providing customers what they really want, they would just provide a great product, and customers would flock to it without the need for any contracts.

  • V7bikerack

    So how much is the value unlimited plan?

    This is merely an attempt to build up customer base before the buyout. The only offer of a two year contact is an insurance policy that ATT cannot force you right away into one of their expensive plans, but must honor the previous contract. Those no contract or out of contract people are vulnerable.

  • theWayofThings

    I think it all boils down to T-mobile could offer unlimited everything, txt, mms, data, min, etc for 10 bucks a month, and there would still be at least half a dozen people on here finding something to bitch about it…

    • The Factor

      Here Here to the way of things…… What is really ironic about everybody complaining is these plans are cheaper then before. LOL what the hell?  ” Those pricks over at t mobile thing they’re slick trying to lower my rate plan and keep me on contract. Well i’m smarter then them, C’mon everybody lets give ’em hell!!!!!!!!!!!”     LOL Morons

      • JudgeJudy

        That’s “than”, not “then”, moron…

    • The Factor

      Here Here to the way of things…… What is really ironic about everybody complaining is these plans are cheaper then before. LOL what the hell?  ” Those pricks over at t mobile thing they’re slick trying to lower my rate plan and keep me on contract. Well i’m smarter then them, C’mon everybody lets give ’em hell!!!!!!!!!!!”     LOL Morons

    • Makoute

      No there would not be. 

    • Makoute

      No there would not be. 

  • gerry frawley

    Maybe this is the start of a trend. Let’s look at this logically. As others have pointed out, a contract phone was always mandated to subsidize the cost of phones, but if there is one thing we know about technology is that when an item becomes a commodity–as cell phones are certainly becoming–they get better and cheaper.

    It is impossible to justify the costs of these phones as they are currently listed. We know it and the cellphone carriers know it. The prices have been kept artificially high by contracts justified by subsidization. With brand new “hot” phones being discounted to $0 at release the downword price of phones is putting market pressure on the carriers to a) find revenue and b) guarantee revenue.

    What better way than lengthy contracts with no benefit other than a perceived low price — I say perceived because the service should also be falling. Handsets are too high and so are services. High prices could be justified when carriers were rolling out their services–the cost of cell tower location was a driving force of the carriers’ costs. Moving from 3g to 4g, is simply a technology implementation and as already stated, the cost of technology is always falling.

    Cellphone carriers need contracts…

  • gerry frawley

    Maybe this is the start of a trend. Let’s look at this logically. As others have pointed out, a contract phone was always mandated to subsidize the cost of phones, but if there is one thing we know about technology is that when an item becomes a commodity–as cell phones are certainly becoming–they get better and cheaper.

    It is impossible to justify the costs of these phones as they are currently listed. We know it and the cellphone carriers know it. The prices have been kept artificially high by contracts justified by subsidization. With brand new “hot” phones being discounted to $0 at release the downword price of phones is putting market pressure on the carriers to a) find revenue and b) guarantee revenue.

    What better way than lengthy contracts with no benefit other than a perceived low price — I say perceived because the service should also be falling. Handsets are too high and so are services. High prices could be justified when carriers were rolling out their services–the cost of cell tower location was a driving force of the carriers’ costs. Moving from 3g to 4g, is simply a technology implementation and as already stated, the cost of technology is always falling.

    Cellphone carriers need contracts…

  • gerry frawley

    Maybe this is the start of a trend. Let’s look at this logically. As others have pointed out, a contract phone was always mandated to subsidize the cost of phones, but if there is one thing we know about technology is that when an item becomes a commodity–as cell phones are certainly becoming–they get better and cheaper.

    It is impossible to justify the costs of these phones as they are currently listed. We know it and the cellphone carriers know it. The prices have been kept artificially high by contracts justified by subsidization. With brand new “hot” phones being discounted to $0 at release the downword price of phones is putting market pressure on the carriers to a) find revenue and b) guarantee revenue.

    What better way than lengthy contracts with no benefit other than a perceived low price — I say perceived because the service should also be falling. Handsets are too high and so are services. High prices could be justified when carriers were rolling out their services–the cost of cell tower location was a driving force of the carriers’ costs. Moving from 3g to 4g, is simply a technology implementation and as already stated, the cost of technology is always falling.

    Cellphone carriers need contracts…

  • Bilbo

    Tmobile continues to morph into Verizon……..

    • Barker1964

      T-Mobile is lowering the prices and Verizon is going up so what point are you trying to make

    • Barker1964

      T-Mobile is lowering the prices and Verizon is going up so what point are you trying to make

  • Merit3162003

    are there any data only plans?

  • Anonymous

    There was an interesting story on the local news here in San Francisco.

    It said that in this tanked economy, where people don’t have money to spend on perceived extras, that people are cutting back or giving up: the morning Starbucks coffee, taking lunch to work rather than eating out, going to movies, etc.

    The story said two things people appear unwilling to curb:  1) cars; and 2) “their cell phones.”

  • Anonymous

    There was an interesting story on the local news here in San Francisco.

    It said that in this tanked economy, where people don’t have money to spend on perceived extras, that people are cutting back or giving up: the morning Starbucks coffee, taking lunch to work rather than eating out, going to movies, etc.

    The story said two things people appear unwilling to curb:  1) cars; and 2) “their cell phones.”

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  • Ziggy123

    The best plan (value wise) in my opinion is T-Mobile’s prepaid monthly 1500 (talk + text) + 30MB data plan for $30 (no taxes or fees!).  you get 1500 ‘credits’ that can be used towards talk or text (1min or 1 txt = 1credit).  The 30 MB of data is small, but if you are like me and only check your email (to and from work), sync your calendar (twice daily) and occasionally pull up directions even 10MB is enough.

    But i understand this is not for you power users out there.

    • Ziggy123

      … and if your phone is wifi capable you could easily supplement the data when at home or work

    • Ziggy123

      … and if your phone is wifi capable you could easily supplement the data when at home or work

  • rm

    You know, I had this big old bitch-fest of a post planned out, but then I realized…. why bother? You see, I’m already under contract, since late 2009. I don’t plan on leaving T-Mobile (IMO, we still have the best Android phones), and now we’re going to have the best non-prepaid rate plans. I plan on buying an HTC Sensation outright(no EIP), getting a 49.99 “Value” plan and yes, signing a contract. I can’t find a way that being under a contract hurts me. At least this way, after the ATT buyout, ATT legally has to keep me on my rate plan till the contract expires.

    • calvin

      So are you going to be paying for the sensation full price upfront or over months?

  • CRT24

    It really all boils down to this with these new plans…..T-Mobile still has the best contracted plans that have phone discounts and these new “value” plans are even priced lower than the old em+ plans with the only difference being that there is a 2 year contract. So you can either use your own phone or buy one from T-Mobile at full cost and even have the option of paying it out with no interest, or still get a discount on a handset. Regardless of which of these plans you choose you will be getting the best rate of any of the 4 major carriers and none of them have no contract options for family plans either. So you can either get a very good price on your family plan with T-Mobile or if you don’t want a contract there are still very good pre paid options…..either way you are getting a much better value than the other carriers.

  • CRT24

    It really all boils down to this with these new plans…..T-Mobile still has the best contracted plans that have phone discounts and these new “value” plans are even priced lower than the old em+ plans with the only difference being that there is a 2 year contract. So you can either use your own phone or buy one from T-Mobile at full cost and even have the option of paying it out with no interest, or still get a discount on a handset. Regardless of which of these plans you choose you will be getting the best rate of any of the 4 major carriers and none of them have no contract options for family plans either. So you can either get a very good price on your family plan with T-Mobile or if you don’t want a contract there are still very good pre paid options…..either way you are getting a much better value than the other carriers.

    • its good for you cos you are a mouthpiece for TMOBILE company.

      • CRT24

        It’s good because…..well it is. Why do you keep asking what plan you should go on but then bash people who say good things about the company. If you dont think the things that I am saying are correct then go get service with some other company…..you have already said you can’t afford a more expensive plan so good luck finding a plan elsewhere that is even close to the same price as what you are paying. I don’t agree with everything my current employer does because Lord knows if the business was run correctly then it wouldn’t be in the tenuous position it is now but that doesn’t change the fact that T-Mobile offers the best value so if you disagree with that then get service elsewhere.

      • Joe Bryant

        Oh, Christ. In case you haven’t figured it out, a number of commenters on this blog are T-Mobile employees, current and former. Which stands to reason, after all, it’s a blog about T-Mobile products and services. 

        Now, given that, since you seem to have some questions about what direction you should go with your rate plan, you might try listening to the people who might know a thing or two about that. (T-Mobile employees)

        Lol, either ways, it’s people like you that make me glad I do something else for a living now. 

      • Joe Bryant

        Oh, Christ. In case you haven’t figured it out, a number of commenters on this blog are T-Mobile employees, current and former. Which stands to reason, after all, it’s a blog about T-Mobile products and services. 

        Now, given that, since you seem to have some questions about what direction you should go with your rate plan, you might try listening to the people who might know a thing or two about that. (T-Mobile employees)

        Lol, either ways, it’s people like you that make me glad I do something else for a living now. 

    • Makoute

      They are not priced lower, for one thing the 500 min unlimited text and data is 59.99 with EM+ whereas the same plan  is 10 bucks more on the new savings plan, and you have to sign up for a 2 year contract with a maximum 300 bucks EFT.

      • Jaygqitalia

        Well for the same price u get unlimited mins instead of 500. I pay this price now for unlimited everything em+ plan, so im either keepin what i got, or jumping on value to get a new phone cheaper upfront. Havent decided yet.

      • Jaygqitalia

        Well for the same price u get unlimited mins instead of 500. I pay this price now for unlimited everything em+ plan, so im either keepin what i got, or jumping on value to get a new phone cheaper upfront. Havent decided yet.

      • Jaygqitalia

        Well for the same price u get unlimited mins instead of 500. I pay this price now for unlimited everything em+ plan, so im either keepin what i got, or jumping on value to get a new phone cheaper upfront. Havent decided yet.

      • Jaygqitalia

        Well for the same price u get unlimited mins instead of 500. I pay this price now for unlimited everything em+ plan, so im either keepin what i got, or jumping on value to get a new phone cheaper upfront. Havent decided yet.

      • Jaygqitalia

        Well for the same price u get unlimited mins instead of 500. I pay this price now for unlimited everything em+ plan, so im either keepin what i got, or jumping on value to get a new phone cheaper upfront. Havent decided yet.

      • CRT24

        Oh really? If you look again you will see that the 500 minute talk, unl text, and 2gb of web is 49.99. Isn’t 49.99 less than 59.99???

        • Makoute

          The current 500 min unlimited text and web (5 gb before throttle) is 59.99, that same plan is 10 dollars more on the new savings plan, and you don’t have to sign a two year contract, while still paying full price for the phone.

  • CRT24

    It really all boils down to this with these new plans…..T-Mobile still has the best contracted plans that have phone discounts and these new “value” plans are even priced lower than the old em+ plans with the only difference being that there is a 2 year contract. So you can either use your own phone or buy one from T-Mobile at full cost and even have the option of paying it out with no interest, or still get a discount on a handset. Regardless of which of these plans you choose you will be getting the best rate of any of the 4 major carriers and none of them have no contract options for family plans either. So you can either get a very good price on your family plan with T-Mobile or if you don’t want a contract there are still very good pre paid options…..either way you are getting a much better value than the other carriers.

  • CRT24

    It really all boils down to this with these new plans…..T-Mobile still has the best contracted plans that have phone discounts and these new “value” plans are even priced lower than the old em+ plans with the only difference being that there is a 2 year contract. So you can either use your own phone or buy one from T-Mobile at full cost and even have the option of paying it out with no interest, or still get a discount on a handset. Regardless of which of these plans you choose you will be getting the best rate of any of the 4 major carriers and none of them have no contract options for family plans either. So you can either get a very good price on your family plan with T-Mobile or if you don’t want a contract there are still very good pre paid options…..either way you are getting a much better value than the other carriers.

  • Miro

    damn this is good, it would be a shame a deplorable company like AT&T has a chance of making it go away

  • Danielle

    this is all contract related (with AT&T) to meet certain numbers .. why would I want to sign up for a 2 year contract if I’ve to pay full price on phone ?

    • CRT24

      You can still get a dicount in the phone if you choose one of the current plans that will still be available…..these other plans are at a lower price which will save you money over the 2 year contract…..how much will depend on the phone you choose.

      • Anonymous

        We need to do the math looking at specific phones involved to know whether it saves money compared to the classic plans factoring in the additional payments for the phone.  The last time I compared using the actual phones my family has across four lines, over the two year term we were better off taking the discounts.  If you aren’t looking at high end phones you can get the phones cheaper through somewhere like Boost or Virgin Mobile without being tied into a two year commitment.  But it’s definitely a step in the right direction, and an exciting enough change I’m breaking out the spreadsheets to see if it’s worth redoing my own contracts

        • Makoute

          You are paying more on individual plans.

        • Makoute

          You are paying more on individual plans.

        • Anonymous

          Not always.  Depends on how many minutes you use, what data plan you need, what phones you select, and a host of other factors.  No question you’re getting the best deal of the majors.  Whether it’s the absolute minimum you can be paying and still get what you need depends on your usage profile.

        • Anonymous

          Not always.  Depends on how many minutes you use, what data plan you need, what phones you select, and a host of other factors.  No question you’re getting the best deal of the majors.  Whether it’s the absolute minimum you can be paying and still get what you need depends on your usage profile.

        • Anonymous

          Not always.  Depends on how many minutes you use, what data plan you need, what phones you select, and a host of other factors.  No question you’re getting the best deal of the majors.  Whether it’s the absolute minimum you can be paying and still get what you need depends on your usage profile.

      • Dingleberry

         but the new plans arnt going to be available after the 24th

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    fathered plan. if I want the $10 data now, they are saying I will have 
    to switch to  different plan which then i can save on the data on my
    lines but will forfeit my free add a line fees for 3 lines.

    from 2012, my plan will cost me $30 more  for 3 add a line fees.
    becos
    of 3 add a line fees but I can get the $10  200mb data.  I have andriod
    phones  on my lines but cant  afford the  $30  data, I need the 200mb
    $10 datas

    looking at this, is it best I change my plan now or  wait for VALUE PLANS?

    • CRT24

      Do you post this same question on every thread?

      • hey you tmobile rep, go work, serve customers

        • CRT24

          I said I worked for T-Mobile…..I didn’t say I was a rep.

        • CRT24

          I said I worked for T-Mobile…..I didn’t say I was a rep.

        • CRT24

          Well in case you hadn’t noticed this a T-Mobile blog so I imagine most of the posts will be related to T-Mobile and maybe even some about what is good about T-Mobile. You have asked this same question on at least 3 different topics and I believe you have been given the information necessary to make your decision but for some reason you still can’t make up yoru mind, so who is the dumb ass?

        • ofcourse u r  a dumb ass cos you always object to our comments about TMOBILE  and you talk lots of sweet things about  TMOBILE COMPANY.you don’t always have to tell us how good TMOBILE is . we too can talk and ask  and quesion TMOBILE’s    different plans, products as  many times as we want.

        • CRT24

          Wow you are kind of up tight arent you…….I don’t “object” to anything on this site, I provide facts about what I know to be true and sometimes that differs from what people say on the site. Of course you and anyone else are free to asked whatever questions you choose just as I am free to offer whatever information or opinion that I may have but I don’t recall resorting to name calling as you have no matter how ridiculous the comment.

        • Tfg

          I have to agree you have posted this scenario enough times. Just make up your mind already because I am tired of reading the same question day after day.

        • SO U COME ON THIS SITE TO ALWAYS READ WHAT I AM SAYING? LOL,  read tmobile employee’s comments so you won’t get tired  reading theirs everyday

        • SO U COME ON THIS SITE TO ALWAYS READ WHAT I AM SAYING? LOL,  read tmobile employee’s comments so you won’t get tired  reading theirs everyday

  • Calvin

    So lets say you want a sensation 4g or g2x, would it be cheaper to go with the value or the classic plan?

    • CRT24

      Using the 1000 minute plans as an example….on the classic plan with talk, text, and 2gb web for both lines then your plan cost would be $120.00/mo plus 400.00 for 2 sensations after rebate for a total 24 month cost of $3280.00. On the value plan you would pay the same up front price for the phones and have 30.00/month in payments making your cost including phone payments 110.00/mo for a total 24 month cost of 3140.00 including the upfront phone cost…..again the difference will vary with phone cost.

  • OKDave

    Anyone have any insights on how they compute the migration fee from an existing contract? 

    I have five phones on a Family Time 700 plan, with three of those phones coming off contract in the next month. I had thought about going month-to-month until the Hercules comes out, but if I go value, I’m paying full price (close to $500-$600) for the phone alone, which all-but defeats the purpose of the lower rate phone. 

  • Aztater7

    How do these new plans work if you don’t want to get a new phone? Is it just like any new plan.

  • Ka649

    Save up the money, buy the phone at full price and go prepaid. It will Still will be cheaper in the long run…

  • Ka649

    Save up the money, buy the phone at full price and go prepaid. It will Still will be cheaper in the long run…

  • Asdfghjkl

    When you say “No web features are required for value plans,” does this mean I can avoid having to get the data packages when I buy a smartphone on one of these value plans?

    • CRT24

      Correct, you are not required to have a data plan since you are buying the phone at full cost…..not sure why you would want to have a smart phone without some mobile data capabilities but it is not required on the value plans.

      • Michael Le Gere

        I can understand it depending on where one may live.  If you live in a place like Seattle or NYC, I actually see it as a huge benefit to avoid paying the internet fee.  There are nearly 10+ WiFi spots available at any one time, just as you make your way through town, save the spots, and your phone will automatically connect to them as you live your daily life.

        It would probably be beneficial to add the very small 200MB plan as a backup for rare occasions.  For 5 dollars it is totally worth it…But otherwise that is ideal I think.  I could see myself doing that.  For now I live in SLC, which is still more or less a drive here, drive there type of town not quite blanketed in WiFi as other cities.

    • CRT24

      Correct, you are not required to have a data plan since you are buying the phone at full cost…..not sure why you would want to have a smart phone without some mobile data capabilities but it is not required on the value plans.

  • Anonymous

    asdfasdfasdfasd

    • CRT24

      It does not “include” the free WiFi calling but there is a free WiFi calling feature that can be added, just ask that it be added to your plan….so you can call over WiFi but it still does use your minutes when on WiFi.

      • Anonymous

        Thank you for answering my question. However, now there is a free wi-fi addon to EM plans with unlimited calling and I wonder if this will work with Value Plans as well.
        Also, I have 8 months left on my contract. Do I have to pay any migration fee to new plans?

      • Anonymous

        Thank you for answering my question. However, now there is a free wi-fi addon to EM plans with unlimited calling and I wonder if this will work with Value Plans as well.
        Also, I have 8 months left on my contract. Do I have to pay any migration fee to new plans?

      • Anonymous

        Thank you for answering my question. However, now there is a free wi-fi addon to EM plans with unlimited calling and I wonder if this will work with Value Plans as well.
        Also, I have 8 months left on my contract. Do I have to pay any migration fee to new plans?

        • CRT24

          Sorry I should have clarified…..you can do WiFi calling without the feature but that will use your minutes but as long as you have the correct feature then the calling is unlimited over WiFi and I’m sure it will be available with the new plans……as far as the migration fee goes, I am not sure that has been published yet but it will depend on how long you have left on your contract..

        • Dingleberry

           if u have 6 months or less u dont have to pay the fee

        • Dingleberry

           if u have 6 months or less u dont have to pay the fee

  • Michael Le Gere

    This is very tempting. Having worked in the cell phone industry for so long, and getting basically free phones and phone service, when I left, it was a shock having to pay for my phone service and phone! Haha…so once that got old (not even a year!) I cancelled my contract and even paid nearly 900 dollars in ETF fees earlier this year…

    I’ve been on Virgin Mobile rocking 25 dollars a month on the Android Optimus.  Hasn’t done me wrong except slower tethering on my laptop…But now that Virgin is going to 35 dollars a month, I see the 49 dollars 500 minutes/text/2GB internet very appealing.  As long as the internet is no overage and only throttled speeds.

  • Michael Le Gere

    This is very tempting. Having worked in the cell phone industry for so long, and getting basically free phones and phone service, when I left, it was a shock having to pay for my phone service and phone! Haha…so once that got old (not even a year!) I cancelled my contract and even paid nearly 900 dollars in ETF fees earlier this year…

    I’ve been on Virgin Mobile rocking 25 dollars a month on the Android Optimus.  Hasn’t done me wrong except slower tethering on my laptop…But now that Virgin is going to 35 dollars a month, I see the 49 dollars 500 minutes/text/2GB internet very appealing.  As long as the internet is no overage and only throttled speeds.

  • Michael Le Gere

    This is very tempting. Having worked in the cell phone industry for so long, and getting basically free phones and phone service, when I left, it was a shock having to pay for my phone service and phone! Haha…so once that got old (not even a year!) I cancelled my contract and even paid nearly 900 dollars in ETF fees earlier this year…

    I’ve been on Virgin Mobile rocking 25 dollars a month on the Android Optimus.  Hasn’t done me wrong except slower tethering on my laptop…But now that Virgin is going to 35 dollars a month, I see the 49 dollars 500 minutes/text/2GB internet very appealing.  As long as the internet is no overage and only throttled speeds.

  • Is corporate discount offered in value plans ?

  • Anonymous

    I just realized that they didn’t say anything about offer unlimited nights and weekend with this plan? didn’t see it anywhere on the pics…

    so it’s 1k or 2k any time mins… oppose to the unlimited mins which doesn’t matter in this case…

  • Anonymous

    I just realized that they didn’t say anything about offer unlimited nights and weekend with this plan? didn’t see it anywhere on the pics…

    so it’s 1k or 2k any time mins… oppose to the unlimited mins which doesn’t matter in this case…

    • CRT24

      All of the plans that are not unlimited, both individual and family have the anytime minutes Plus nights, weekends, and m to m.

      • Anonymous

        hopefully… they need put that on their papers too…

  • Toomuchpie617

    so say i am not under contract now and I want to get a g2x on july 24th. Could i change to the 1000 min family plan plus unlimited text and 200 mb data for one line and still get the phone for the $199 price?

    • Dingleberry

       no u would have to pay the full retail of 549.99 there will be no more discounts on phones

  • Stealingcinderella2008

    all you guys are stupid. wait till tmobile releases it to the public. it will have more information and it will all be clearer for everyone to understand. Dont get your panties in a twist and wait the week till its in effect and then call a rep and get all your questions answered.

  • robert

    i have an off contract blackberry data only plan.  if i want to switch to a value plan without upgrading my phone, will i be required to sign a 2yr agreement just for switching? i understand that there is no migration fee but i will not switch if they put me back on contract.