T-Mobile Takes Easy Second Place In PCMag’s Fastest Mobile Network 2011 Contest

T-Mobile’s 4G network claim right now remains the nation’s largest 4G network while Verizon’s claims the fastest. The results of PCMag’s nationwide mobile speed test support the claim that Verizon is indeed the fastest against T-Mobile’s HSPA+ 21Mbps network but T-Mobile holds second place down like a boss. With the obvious mention that this test might have had different results should T-Mobile have a larger network of HSPA+ 42Mbps along with the devices to serve it. Needless to say Verizon’s LTE network took down all competitors with blazing fast speeds that even T-Mobile at it’s most capable speeds couldn’t keep up with. We’ll really enjoy the next series of tests when T-Mobile has the phones capable of running on the fastest speeds the network can offer. So how did T-Mobile truly compare?

  • In the Northeast T-Mobile fared very well easily besting Sprint 3G/4G and AT&T with a max download speed of 14.11Mbps. Verizon’s 4G really shined though producing a 19.46 max download speed.
  • In the Southeast T-Mobile again turned in a solid performance edging out AT&T and Sprint yet again with a top download speed of 14.04Mbps. Verizon took home top honors with a blazing fast speed of 31.76Mbps.
  • In the Central region T-Mobile took second place for a third time with a max download speed of 15.23Mbps against Verizon’s winning speed of 37.66Mbps.
  • In the West T-Mobile maintained it’s second best performance with a max download speed of 12.88Mbps against Verizon’s 26.87.
  • So how did T-Mobile fare in “rural America?” Once again a second place victory barely beaten by AT&T but absolutely beating both Sprint and Verizon’s 3G networks.

While Verizon was the clear winner trouncing the competition T-Mobile still fared well with speeds that are completely awesome. Even with Verizon’s 4G network being newer, less congested than T-Mobile’s and having less hardware running on it, it still managed to easily maintain the company’s marking speak of nation’s fastest 4G network. Enjoy the prize Verizon, next year could very well be a totally different story.

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Check out the PCMag story for the full results breakdown and see how your city fared in the tests!

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  • Anonymous

    Lying ass companies. These are just theoretical speeds when in IRL speeds cap at 10 – 15mbps.

    • Guest

      Oh shut up and actually READ how they conducted the study. Quit yapping for no reason.

    • Oreo_19

      What happened? Are you mad?

  • Anonymous

    Lying ass companies. These are just theoretical speeds when in IRL speeds cap at 10 – 15mbps.

  • http://twitter.com/scuttlefield Scott Oldfield

    Yeah. Next year will be different because T-mo won’t exist. :(

  • http://twitter.com/scuttlefield Scott Oldfield

    Yeah. Next year will be different because T-mo won’t exist. :(

  • http://twitter.com/scuttlefield Scott Oldfield

    Yeah. Next year will be different because T-mo won’t exist. :(

  • Barry

    Looks like T-Mobile should take over AT&T, not the other way around.

    T-Mobile already apparently has the high speed network that AT&T is so desperate to have.  Yet if my understanding is correct, AT&T plans to dismantle T-Mobile’s 4G high speed network if the merger is approved.  This makes no sense.

    Maybe AT&T should just resign itself to be what T-Mobile once was: a low end provider with a shoddy network.

    I’m not saying T-Mobile’s network is great – it still needs plenty of work and innovation.  I get dropped calls  almost week.  Transfers between towers do not always work.  But if competition is removed from the market then the quality of service delivered by all of the players is bound to decline.

    Maybe AT&T should be split up to encourage more competition, instead of trying to buy out their only GSM competitor.

    • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

      shabby network? T-mo? speak for yourself…I have good coverage in my area.

      snobby network? ATT? yes.
      High end price, low end speed.

      • Chris

        He said “what T-Mobile once was….”

    • Matthew Edwards

      Of course AT&T could have built up their network, but they don’t want to compete. In keeping with their corporate culture AT&T rested on their laurels while raking in the dough from someone else’s innovation – the I-Phone, of which they had exclusive, privileged access to. Now that mobile broadband has exploded (much to their surprise) they are flummoxed by their inability to provide broadband to their customers. Their quick and easy solution is to just buy out the lowest cost carrier, T-Mobile. Because of this acquisition, a company with a complete lack of vision and foresight will control over 40% of the mobile market. Meanwhile, other countries will continue to outpace us in terms of broadband access and speed.

  • TMoFan

    So many disparage T-Mobile but they consistently match or beat the competition. T-Mobile has/had a lot going for it. Too bad it’s going to be devoured by a company that can’t manage its network.

  • Anonymous

    I’m starving for some new T-Mobile news, not just strictly the next big phone, the next big thing for the company.

  • Mastrorj

    yea this is all great but when are they going to give us a good smart phone that u know—-WORKS!!! Lag this and lag that and rebooting issues and connectivity issues screen bleeding Just once id like to be happy for what im paying for is that so much to ask! if My service sucks in my area why should i pay full price for it i get sometimes 4g but it never hits 3g it goes to 2g and then g – Hey tmobile maybe put up a tower in my area where u have almost 30 f-in retail locations – whys this so hard! (thats what she said!   :)  ) – vibrant to vibrant 4g to G2x to sensation every phone has atleast one thing or more wrong with them why is this allowed – My computer fine – my blue ray player fine – TV fine – Why are smart phones the downfall of quality control!

    • Anonymous

      What are you freaken crazy, T-Mobile has the best Android phones period. Every phone has some tweak wrong with it but if you don’t think the Sensation, G2X, Nexus One and S, G2, MyTouch 4G, I can go on, they are just great devices, If you can not find a phone in those choices you don’t really want a phone, you just want to cry about nothing. Get a freaken I-Phone and get locked down with Stevey baby Jobs. T-Mobile rules when it comes to devices and plans. You want to bitch, bitch about having to go to AT&T when this all shuts down on us. Then you will know just how freaken good we had it with T-Mobile.

      • Mastrorj

         Lets see Vibrant had a lag issue bc it was built on a FAT32 file system which is an old slow file system so was the vib 4g( i went through 4 of these then the G2x(5 of these) would totally power down every time u put the screen to sleep the LCD screen would bleed as well on all 5 phones! The HTC sensation i had dead pixles on the screen twice and the unibody design does something called the grip of death – it wont hold a freakin signal or wifi or bluetooth Nexus is old G2 is old they dont even sell these phones anymore u ass!! besides the nexus was only available through a freakin web site(i think) deff not in stores!! i know bc i worked for tmobile my touch 4 g just didnt care for it the G2 i dont want a physical keyboard n i didnt like stock android but yes for the G2x i know it had stock android but i figured after going through so many touch wiz phones i would try it and yea FAIL! after working for both verizon and tmobile verizon has better quality phones – but u know what im not taking about JUST tmoble phone u ass! im talking about every f-in smart phone across the board I have known for a fact the G2X had these problems in Europe yet they released this phone anyway and we spend out hard earned money on crap that dont work! PERIOD!!! If u tell me my service area is good and i get only 2g F-in service then theyre full of it!! but yet im charged all this money to get a data plan when the majority of the time im getting 2g and not even 3g and im in all different areas including lower westchester county NYC and conneticut

        SO YEA ASS HOLE IM GONNA BITCH ABOUT PAYING OVER $100 A MONTH FOR 2 LINES THAT GET BAD SERVICE AND I GO THROUGH ALMOST A DOZEN PHONES wheres the quality control on these phones and again not just for TMOBILE im talking across the board!! These phones retail from 4-500 dollars a piece ok and how many kinda of electronics do u know that cost that much that have this many frequent problems – Nothing i can ever thik of  – i worked for  best buy u know what the most returned item is its android smart phones! oh and then after 3-4 months of problems the companies acknowledge it say they will come out with afix but by the time they do you either bought a new phone bc ur tired of dealing with the issues of the last one or they just never come up with the fix – So im tired of going on craigslist selling my phone to make a few hundred to buy a new one out right and coming up with the difference somehow – im tired of getting refurbed phones that dont work and im tired of paying for a plan that doesnt live up to what it supposed to do – IF MY G2X TURNS OFF EVERY TIME THE SCREEN SLEEPS ND I HAVE TO TAKE OFF MY CASE AND THEN THE BACK THEN OUT COMES THE BATTERY WHAT USE IS MY PHONE PLAN IF THE PHONE WONT STAY ON!!! BUT YET WHILE THEY FIGURE THIS ALL OUT IM STILL PAYING FULL PRICE FOR MY DATA AND PHONE PLAN – F- THAT!! ITS BS AND I THINK IS THE FCC IS GOING TO INVOLVE ITS SELF IN ANYTHING IT SHOULD BE THAT WE AS CONSUMERS ARE GETTING GOOD QUALITY STUFF FOR THE MONEY WE PAY FOR BC LETS FACE WE PAY TOP $$ FOR SERVICE AND PHONES THAT ONLY WORK HALF THE TIME – THERE NEEDS TO BE SERIOUS REGULATIONS ON THIS INDUSTRY AND A CERTAIN STANDARD THEY NEED TO BE HELD TOO

      • Mastrorj

         Lets see Vibrant had a lag issue bc it was built on a FAT32 file system which is an old slow file system so was the vib 4g( i went through 4 of these then the G2x(5 of these) would totally power down every time u put the screen to sleep the LCD screen would bleed as well on all 5 phones! The HTC sensation i had dead pixles on the screen twice and the unibody design does something called the grip of death – it wont hold a freakin signal or wifi or bluetooth Nexus is old G2 is old they dont even sell these phones anymore u ass!! besides the nexus was only available through a freakin web site(i think) deff not in stores!! i know bc i worked for tmobile my touch 4 g just didnt care for it the G2 i dont want a physical keyboard n i didnt like stock android but yes for the G2x i know it had stock android but i figured after going through so many touch wiz phones i would try it and yea FAIL! after working for both verizon and tmobile verizon has better quality phones – but u know what im not taking about JUST tmoble phone u ass! im talking about every f-in smart phone across the board I have known for a fact the G2X had these problems in Europe yet they released this phone anyway and we spend out hard earned money on crap that dont work! PERIOD!!! If u tell me my service area is good and i get only 2g F-in service then theyre full of it!! but yet im charged all this money to get a data plan when the majority of the time im getting 2g and not even 3g and im in all different areas including lower westchester county NYC and conneticut

        SO YEA ASS HOLE IM GONNA BITCH ABOUT PAYING OVER $100 A MONTH FOR 2 LINES THAT GET BAD SERVICE AND I GO THROUGH ALMOST A DOZEN PHONES wheres the quality control on these phones and again not just for TMOBILE im talking across the board!! These phones retail from 4-500 dollars a piece ok and how many kinda of electronics do u know that cost that much that have this many frequent problems – Nothing i can ever thik of  – i worked for  best buy u know what the most returned item is its android smart phones! oh and then after 3-4 months of problems the companies acknowledge it say they will come out with afix but by the time they do you either bought a new phone bc ur tired of dealing with the issues of the last one or they just never come up with the fix – So im tired of going on craigslist selling my phone to make a few hundred to buy a new one out right and coming up with the difference somehow – im tired of getting refurbed phones that dont work and im tired of paying for a plan that doesnt live up to what it supposed to do – IF MY G2X TURNS OFF EVERY TIME THE SCREEN SLEEPS ND I HAVE TO TAKE OFF MY CASE AND THEN THE BACK THEN OUT COMES THE BATTERY WHAT USE IS MY PHONE PLAN IF THE PHONE WONT STAY ON!!! BUT YET WHILE THEY FIGURE THIS ALL OUT IM STILL PAYING FULL PRICE FOR MY DATA AND PHONE PLAN – F- THAT!! ITS BS AND I THINK IS THE FCC IS GOING TO INVOLVE ITS SELF IN ANYTHING IT SHOULD BE THAT WE AS CONSUMERS ARE GETTING GOOD QUALITY STUFF FOR THE MONEY WE PAY FOR BC LETS FACE WE PAY TOP $$ FOR SERVICE AND PHONES THAT ONLY WORK HALF THE TIME – THERE NEEDS TO BE SERIOUS REGULATIONS ON THIS INDUSTRY AND A CERTAIN STANDARD THEY NEED TO BE HELD TOO

        • the truth …

          Wow. To work at all those places, it must be hard for you to keep a job.

          Well since you seem to have tried every single device, and they all have issues, perhaps its time to look at the user.

        • the truth …

          Wow. To work at all those places, it must be hard for you to keep a job.

          Well since you seem to have tried every single device, and they all have issues, perhaps its time to look at the user.

        • the truth …

          Wow. To work at all those places, it must be hard for you to keep a job.

          Well since you seem to have tried every single device, and they all have issues, perhaps its time to look at the user.

        • the truth …

          Wow. To work at all those places, it must be hard for you to keep a job.

          Well since you seem to have tried every single device, and they all have issues, perhaps its time to look at the user.

        • the truth …

          Wow. To work at all those places, it must be hard for you to keep a job.

          Well since you seem to have tried every single device, and they all have issues, perhaps its time to look at the user.

        • TMOTECH

          Wow. if I were  you I would have left a long time ago. You have a black rain cloud following you around everywhere? Bro you need to stay far away from me. Sounds like you are getting your phones from the defective box at a repair center. And Satan is following you around to make sure if your phone isn’t broken it sure isn’t going to work. You truly are simply unlucky dude. And I am glad to see You know it isn’t T-Mobile’s problem. Gotta talk to the manufacturer. 

        • Mastrorj

           i would say the only reason if i were to blame tmo its bc if you know these phones are having these issues why would u put them out and why isnt there better quality control – you havent insulted me but all i did was speak my mind about my frustration and its not like im making up these problems i mean if u just look into it its not like im making this up lol  – so yea im mad that things dont work right but everyones bitching me out but yet im the one who speaking out and looking out for all of theirs an your best interest – i want a device that works DONT ALLL OF U GUYS WANT THAT TOO  – and i understand that for every bad phone there might be 10 good ones or for every one good phone there might be 10 bad ones – just so happens im the one person on here whos got bad phones and id say most if not all of you have great working ones –

          go to my g2x review and you will find people that have  went through 3-4 g2x’s and are pissed off and when u go from one phone with issues to another with different issues its like enough is enough and i dont wanna hear from a rep over the phone well we gotta give u another g2x —why so i cant get another one with issues on that one – So most of u guys act like you own stock in this company defending it to no end why bc all i want is one simple phone to come out with no issues – thats really not asking much for something costing us over $500 and they are supposed to last 2 yrs assuming because thats how long it takes for a full upgrade –

          The G2x wasnt out of stock lol they just simply had to stop selling it bc of the issues – i know this because i have a few friends that work in the corp stores and they were told to tell customers this bc of the issues – he also told me they had 15 of them currently in stock

        • TMOTECH

          Wow. if I were  you I would have left a long time ago. You have a black rain cloud following you around everywhere? Bro you need to stay far away from me. Sounds like you are getting your phones from the defective box at a repair center. And Satan is following you around to make sure if your phone isn’t broken it sure isn’t going to work. You truly are simply unlucky dude. And I am glad to see You know it isn’t T-Mobile’s problem. Gotta talk to the manufacturer. 

        • Itmustbejj

          Thanks for the caps, they really help break up your giant wall of text.

        • Mastrorj

          ur wlcome :)

        • MagentaMadness

          I stopped reading at “ASS HOLE” 

        • http://twitter.com/BruceCLin Bruce Lin

          Stopped reading as even the first sentence is already wrong. Vibrant’s laggy file system is RFS, not FAT32. Stop spouting bs when you can get even the face straight.

        • Mastrorj

           well then you go call up the guy i know who told me that – hes one of the developers that wrote the Ryanza Lag fix and has multiple youtube vids showing you how to root ur phone b4 updates after updates – so ill do u one better heres his sn look up his channel and he will get on the phone and tell u what file system its running bc i would think if he wrote the program he would know what file system he was using – its akaskriller so go look him up and talk to him bc thats what he told me

        • Fatgurl23

          Fck idk both of u shud get married u guys wud make a cute couple.

        • Mastrorj

            f that  i dont mind bangin a fat chick :) lol

        • Mastrorj

            f that  i dont mind bangin a fat chick :) lol

        • Fatgurl23

          Fck idk both of u shud get married u guys wud make a cute couple.

        • Anonymous

          How does Verizon build “better quality handsets”?  You are really speaking out of your ass and what people to take you seriously, if you’re so smart, please explain why you have t-mobile in an area where you only get Edge?  Makes no sense.  You should STFU, you dont know what you’re talking about.  Verizon btw still does not offer a 4G Dual Core handset, T-Mobile is about to release their 3rd.  This argument wouldve been valid like 2 years ago, but you’ll find no supporters of your idiotic thinking now.

        • Mastrorj

          if u worked in the industry like me ud understand – on top of that i had reps from various manufactures even tell me that verizon holds them to better standards from the basic free phone to the high end smart phone most tmobile devices feel cheap and arent always built with the same quality i was told this by my higher ups and lg smasung htc dealers – i will give u one thing the more recent phones build quality has improved as far as overall feel of the device butwhats that matter if the phone keeps turning off on its own! I have done a review on outube of the g2x and i have hundreds of emails and comments of people saying they are all having the same problem – i cant give u the emails but u can look at all my comments on the vid As far as t mo being on their 3rd dual core phone who cares the first two dont work right anyway and since when has an android os or any apps you download make use of a dual core processor – ur a fool bc its non of them with the exception of tergra 2 approved games bc those games require that much CPU power – and how many of you guys are playing these tegra 2 games on ur g2x while ur screen bleeds – keep in mind this chip set will not be around much longer and the games will be useless to newer handsets(maybe not 100% true but a fair assumption) So the sensation is cool i have it but it had dead pixels on the screen on 2 different phones – then if u actually read tmo news they talk about htc sensation issues and connectivity issues – the fix for it eh doesnt work for everyone do the research i did and i saw the forrum posts and youtube vids to prove it

        • Anonymous

          1. I am in the industry and your comments are nonsense.

          2. most carriers pick up variants of the same base device and there really isnt much carrier exclusivity. Both of Googles prized phones landed on tmo first, and if you’re the researcher you claim to be why didn’t you detect these issues you claim the sensation has in the whole month it was in Europe before American release?

          3. As stated no phones are perfect, if you pick away at enough stuff on any phone you will find things you don’t like whether be a Sensation, iPhone 4, Incredible 2 or EVO 3D. Not only do you have personal tastes but personal preferences, you want the perfect phone build it yourself.

          4. Dual Core may not be the huge factor in applications today but who knows how much it’ll impact phone performance with the next major Android release? Also if you think the Sensations Dual Core isn’t the driving force behind it’s ability to seamlessly thread through applications and the UI overlay you’re an idiot.

          5. You’re an entry level worker who doesn’t know anything, relying on what you’ve been told by your higher up. I am the higher up giving people information, and you don’t know what you’re talking about. I deal with OEMs on a daily basis. T-Mobile rarely releases a phone that hasn’t been tried and tested in Europe. If you look at their recent releases short of the MyTouch series these phones have all been variants of European/Asian phones that have been wildly coveted and reviewed highly. (Galaxy S Vibrant, G2, HD7, Galaxy S 4G, Sensation 4G, G2X). These phones all launched on some of the largest carriers in the world, most of them Vodaphone which in case you aren’t aware actually 1/2 own Verizon Wireless in the US. Youre saying that Verizon has the highest standards of cell phone carriers in the world?

          If you have an opinion great, good for you, when you try to pass those opinions off as facts, you’ll always run into problems. Youre really not as informed as you think you are.

        • Mastrorj

           ok ill address this:

          1. what makes my comments nonsense – if i get feedback from customers all the time and ive tried and seen phones from every carrier and all the customers who do shop around say the same thing “why is it that HTC makes a phone for verizon and its really cool and well built and feels good in your hand and then
          they make one for tmobile and it feels like a plastic toy and isnt up to speed like the verizon phones or at&t”
          Perfect example the HD2 yes people bought it bc of a big screen but it
          was stil a win 6.5 phone and they sucked so they put out the HD7 lol
          what garbage same screen as the HD2 same snapdragon proc same all around
          tech from almost a year ago!!!!!  but all the other companies had cool
          win 7 phones with super amoled screens and what not – come on dude
          think!
          So as a guy in the industry what ur gonna ignore what your customers say and want they are the driving force and the reason u have a job so if ur telling me that im wrong as to what they say and or feel then ur one of those morons that dont care about making sure quality comes before anything else God smart phones are getting as bad as Pc’s but hell atleast u can fix a PC not  a smart phone no u gotta exchange it and wait 6 months for an update that took the guys on the XDA developers site 3 weeks to come up with

          2 no exclusivity!! ok lets see wheres the verizon version of the G2 wheres the verizon version of the G2x – Mytouch anyone…no my touch 4g…still nothing hmmm oh hey iphone u were exclusive to At&t for years then to verizon and hey heres something many people dont know is since most people liked the iphone over  good amount of tmobiles smart phones(not ALL but so many) so many in fact that TMOBILE had to create a WHOLE NEW department dedicated to IPhone tech support bc there were so many iphone users on their network with unocked iphones!! No moto droid version on tmobile and i dont remember a side kick on sprint or verizon – Ill be cool cause im a realistic guy no i cant honestly say this is the ONLY phones that had variants but of the new ones over the last few years it was the galaxy s line where each company got its own version the vibrant then the fascinate the captivate and eh there was one more – yea lets let this info just digest for you for a sec

           3. “As stated no phones are perfect, if you pick away at enough stuff on any
          phone you will find things you don’t like whether be a Sensation,
          iPhone 4, Incredible 2 or EVO 3D. ” hey i said im a realistic person right and i 100% agree with what you said bc your right no phone is perfect and i also agree that one can start picking at somethign then ull find something to complain about- Agreed but im not sitting here picking at say the G2x bc the thing flat out keeps powering off thats a MAJOR issue not picking at it and if ur still gonna sit here and say its not (ur giving me no choice) but id have to call u an moron – im not saying oh this sucks bc the flash is too dull or the camera isnt fast enough for a high end device – im not complaining about features of the phone im mad about the fat that i shut the screen off and unknowingly my phones shut off too so btw when this happend i missed 15 phones calls bc i didnt know that my phone was off until a few hours later when i checked it and thats when i noticed it happend everytime the screen was put to sleep

          4 ya know i was in a corp store the other day and the guy was showing me his mytouch 4g and i said oh cool u guys got an update to put the newest HTC sense he said no i rooted my phone and put it on there – and wouldnt ya know the mytouch 4g isnt a dual core phone and yet he had no problem running sense seamlessly. wow imagine that – now its true that the dual core procssor could help run the new version of android but probably not – heres why – not all phones get the update to the next 2. something and if they do they only go up one os – its never skipped a os – but either way we have had no problem putting the latest OS on a old device – However ill gie u this that ice cream sandwich could require a dual core processor to run it but we dont know that for sure – If we can put gingerbread and htc sence on a rooted phone like the mytouch 4g then the door is open for that Possibility (just a possibility i know)

          I was a store manager in bristol CT – i know quite a bit and i also know that people stopped going to your corp stores and started coming to us bc our customer service was that much better and eventually yea that store closed down in the mall so there ya go tough guy – MY higer ups were great people and been with tmobile for over 15 yrs lol my owners on the other hand were morons – And for every highly coveted review u wanna show me for any of those phones i can match that with an issue of a legitimate complaint – so if we were in a store selling a G2x and you showed them a great review of the G2x but then its matched by a bad review- come on ur smart whats gonna stick in their mind more the good review or the bad one – The bad one bc no matter how much u praise something give a customer one reason to not like something and a majority of the time uve turned them off on that product – lastly i get it u defend this bc u work for them still and u know what thats great bc i believe if u work for someone you gotta believe in that product and defend them to no end bc when u work for a company its your company – you would be a horrible employee if u didnt dissagree and or defend tmobile – but keep in mind i countered all of your points which u cant deny and that should tell u that you and and all the other companies higer ups need to get ur stuff right and figure out a way to put out good quality products that customers shouldnt have to return more then once or twice bc thats inexcusable and wow thik of all the money the cmpanies would save if instead of giving me 4 g2x’s that dont work they could have given me one that worked right and had 4 left over to sell and make money off of – wow what a concept – if u want my # or email to discuss this further ill do that bc ur a so called higer up and maybe you might be able to make a difference bc thats what my rants are all about – change for the better so i can go into a store and drop a few hundred dollars and go home happy only to return to buy more and not to exchange exchange exchange

        • Anonymous

          Your complete disregard for a semblance of proper grammar, spelling or punctuation make your rant almost as painful to read as the idiotic crap youre saying, but I will take one last victory dance around your bullishly stupid comments.

          1.  What makes your comments nonsense is that everything you are saying is subjective, whether it be you, or a customer telling you, doesnt make it the rule.  I think its funny that you keep on trying to fish for the worst devices t-mobile launches but skip over the obvious.  HD2 was for intents and purposes a complete catastrophe.  The phone WAS horrible but the phone design was anything but a plastic toy.  HD2 was one of the first phones to employ a 1Ghz processor so if they were still using the chipset by the time the HD7 rolled around which by the way was only 6 months later, guess what?  So was everyone else.  You act as if the HD7 launched among Dual Core Phones or phones sporting chips above 1Ghz.  Fact is you say these carriers got “cool WP7 devices with super amoled screens” No carriers didnt get anything, AT&T got the Samsung Focus and then turned around and picked up the HD7 with the same specs save for a souped up screen.  Verizon and Sprint just got WP7 devices and they are in no way shape or form better than the HD7, although it is clear from my comments you havent used a WP7 device because you are speaking like someone looking at a spec sheet from far away not someone speaking from experience.  Ignoring what customers say?  It kills me how techie jerkoffs in a form think they speak for the world when they complain about a phone, almost this entire site was ready to march into Samsung HQ and burn the place down over FroYo, everyone calling Samsung Samsuck as if it were the funniest joke ever, but 90% of the people I encounter with Vibrants are still running 2.1.  You are an minority, get it through your head.

          2.  This argument is so dumb I refuse to write much about it, but I will remind you I said not much exclusivity and you brought up the iphone, lets be serious.  You speak about the fact that so many people love the iphone like it’s a surprise, I myself own an AT&T iphone, so what?  Of course they’ll be on t-mobile because it was up until February the only US Carrier that supported it other than AT&T.  I dont even see your point or how anything you said was a response to what I said since you conveniently keep on bringing up Verizon (Sprint’s EVO Shift was a Desire Z variant btw) but keep on leaving out European carriers and Verizons 1/2 owner Vodafone namely.

          3.  I say no phones are perfect, you bring up the G2x, why is it that I am talking about a line-up of phones and you keep on coming back to your terrible luck with one fun.  Listen the G2X is as stated in point 2 an American Variant of the first dual core phone in the world, if it wasnt perfect, you had the opportunity to know that in the 3 months it was released in other territories before you purchased it, again, if you’re the researcher you think you are, you really arent very good at it.  Stop complaining, do your HW better, for every dissatisfied techie loser, there is a perfectly happy customer.  You really think your opinion is shared throughout or just among a few?  Do you the return rate on the G2x?  Less than 1%.

          4.  What are you even talking about with this story about a guy in a store with a flashed rom.  So what?

          5.  you havent countered anything, I said in the first post you are passing off your opinions as facts and it still stands true now, just because you believe something doenst make it true, just because a couple of your friends or associates do, doesnt make it true either.  You are talking about quality, but have you seen Verizon’s new WP7?  Its a POS, the Droid X2 looks just like the Droid X, they keep on releasing phones that are dual core without 4G, or 4G phones that are not dual core, how is this a win?  The Thunderbolt is terrible, the Sensation released 3 months after it, and is Dual Core, 4G, way better battery life, running 2.3, less lag, less connectivity issues.  What are you even talking about?  How about ATT’s Inspire 4G which is an EVO with a better display although still not quite as good as the qHD on the Sensation, without the camera and with 4G locked.  How about that MotoBlur touting Atrix?  No company has released a better stable of phones since October than T-Mobile.  Unless you think the Kyocera Echo was revolutionary.  Everything you’re saying is subjective nonsense, people bashed t-mobile because Verizon announced all these phones at CES, but look at it so far, T-Mobile’s phones have been waaaay better than Verizon’s.  Have you seen the LG Revolution?  It’s an eyesore that nobody could love, Droid Charge is nice, but no Infuse 4G for AT&T, and neither are dual core and both are sporting the same 1Ghz Hummingbird chipset released in Last Years Galaxy S line(since you tried to run that crap with the HD2>HD7).  So according to you thats a big problem.  I could sit here forever poking holes in your twisted logic, but by now if you havent figured out that you will not win this fight with half thought out highly opinionated rants then there is no helping you.  

        • Mastrorj

           wow u really failed at #’s 1-5 lol btw i pretty much took everything u addressed and made a counter point but u just dont want to admit it – ur so fixated on trying to make me look dumb when u keep forgetting to calmly read what i said – I never said the HD2 was cheap n plastic like i said “why is it that HTC makes a phone for verizon and its really cool and well built and feels good in your hand and then
          they make one for tmobile and it feels like a plastic toy and isnt up to speed like the verizon phones or at&t”When i mentioned the HD2 i was only refering to the 2nd half of that sentence of it not being up to speed based on tech that was almost a yr old and actually it was 9 months roughly to be exact and Samsung was sending at&t W7 phones with keyboards and super amoled screens

          Yea i do keep leaving out European carriers – why bc thats over there dumbass – we dont live over there i dont buy there phones i buy my phones that we sell over HERE! u said that there are no phones exclusive to one carrier right and i basically named 7 or 8 phones  that are all exclusive to each of their own carrier lol the iphone the droid the side kick the G2x—sorry did u lose focus already im talking in the states u know Where WE live -  so u through numbers out like 90% of people u run into and 1% return rate of g2x’s im sure those are hard numbers right u just happen to have on hand right yea i call total BS lol lemme tell u 1% isnt a big enough number to stop a company from selling the phones and thats exactly what tmobile is doing – I said that but again u ignored me again – Ur attention to detail sucks and this is why we have such bad expierences u get that nice paycheck n blow smoke up ur own ass n think u know everything lol

          as far as my research goes when i had all those vibrant problems i got out of that and into the G2x and watched all the vid reviews in Europe about the phone and theyre were no problems according to them- when i started with the issues thats when i googled ” g2x issues and i saw pople writing in the forrums about the issues with the phone – I made sure to do that with the sensation and nothing came up but u know i said if u paid attention i had dead pixels on my screen 5 in fact on the first one 3 on the 2nd 3rd one is having trouble holding on to singal and wifi and bluetooth  oh and hey for #4 u said if i dont think the dual core proc isnt responsible for making gingerbread and sense run seamlessly im a moron – well again if u read what u wrote and then what i wrote i countered ur point heres a tmobile rep with a non dual core smart phone running gingerbread and the latest sense with no problems so i guess u dont need a dual core after all lol duh! it ran just as good on the mytouch as the sensation

          smh—again fail to listen-read  lol #5 was cute too

          “I said in the first post you are passing off your opinions as facts and it still stands true now”
          90% of the people i run into blah blah blah g2x has 1% return rate blah blah blah looks like ur doing the same thing if i am bc ur number hold no water bro ur pulling numbers for all we know out of ur ass! MY numbers are real because they came from my youtube video review of the g2x u can actually check it theres about 65 people there right now going through and average of 2-3 g2x’s per comment so lets take the higher# of 3 and multiply that by the avg cost of the phone i picked 250 to be fair half upgrades maybe some bought it out right rounded up thats 50 grand i know its not the best math but that just shows how much wasted money in this phone there is btw 65 people – i have a feeling more the 65 people have this issue and also if the number was 1% of returns what about the number of warrenty exchanges done after the 14 day period u know the important figure where ur having to give away new g2x’s day after day bc the first and 2nd  didnt work –

          u listed a bunch of phones that were bad and dude im not saying any of them were good lol bc like the one guy commented to me was and he said TMOTECH “And I am glad to see You know it isn’t T-Mobile’s problem. Gotta talk to the manufacturer.” bc its not just tmobile its every company from samsung to HTC to LG- I blame the carrier only bc if u have customers in Europe complaining (minority or not) about the phones issues why risk launching it bc now ur put in a spot like they are in now and u know what some people depend on their phones and service n pay good money – So ur saying as long as its not alot of people then its ok to push out some bad phones with a known issue – thats actually what u did sayyou said and i quote “You are in the minority, get it through your head.” You heard it apparently its ok if the minority of users suffer

          look forget everything else for just a sec ok seriously can we both agree that there ALMOST doesnt exist one smart phone that isnt problem free – yes or no and can we agree that some of those problems are major isues that can make or break some of these phones yes or no – so why cant these billion dollar companies test out a phone correctly to make sure by launch all the bugs are worked out – why is that so hard – i saw customers shell out hard cash for phones that they continued to have problems with like ok going back to the HD2 we both said it was terrible – well maybe customers cant afford to wait for a fix sent OTA and even so in the mean time say ur phones not working to where it mess with your user experience using ur data plan why do we have to suffer for their mistakes – we did our end – we paid for the phone – we paid for the service – its not our job to ensure that HTC made a good phone or that tmobile or verizon lives up to its coverage map – we r told to either love it or shove it and i think its a bout time these companies start getting it right – but hey im in the minority right to F-em! great attitude

        • Anonymous

          Fixated on making you feel stupid?  You are accomplishing that on your own buddy.  Let me take out a few of your gems while I laugh off the fact that you keep on giving me subjective “facts”.

           like i said “why is it that HTC makes a phone for verizon and its really cool and well built and feels good in your hand and then 
          they make one for tmobile and it feels like a plastic toy and isnt up to speed like the verizon phones or at&t”

          When the HD2 released, AT&T had nothing but the iPhone and Blackberries.  All of their Android phones were also ran T-Mobile facsimiles like the Backflip.  Almost how is that not subjective?  Seriously dummy, go to school.

          actually it was 9 months roughly to be exact – how does this make any sense?

          Yea i do keep leaving out European carriers – why bc thats over there dumbass – we dont live over there i dont buy there phones i buy my phones that we sell over HERE!  <— you meant their btw, and this is the dumbest comment ever, you have to bring Europe into play jerkoff since YOUR phone is a European variant, the Sensation IS  a European phone, the Galaxy S variants we will all get in August/September are available in Europe right now.  The G2, EVO Shift, EVO, HD2, Inspire 4G and Thunderbolt are all variants of European/Asian HTC devices. So you may live here, but your phones arent made here and arent ever unique to here.  These phones arent exclusive when you can get a variant of it somewhere else.  How is that exclusive?  Do I really need to copy and paste a definition?

           1% isnt a big enough number to stop a company from selling the phones and thats exactly what tmobile is doing – Right, because it is a pattern of most companies to raise the price on a phone and not ship them to stores when they have "quality issues" .  The phone is out of stock Moron, cut out the conspiracy theories, oh no wait, you know this because your super informed friend told you.  I'm sorry how stupid of me.

          i countered ur point heres a tmobile rep with a non dual core smart phone running gingerbread and the latest sense with no problems so i guess u dont need a dual core after all lol duh! – Right this is obviously a great barometer of if Dual Core is necessary or not.  Why dont you take a look at how stupid your comments really are.

          thats actually what u did sayyou said and i quote "You are in the minority, get it through your head." You heard it apparently its ok if the minority of users suffer – My comment about the minority was actually techie people who assume that their problems are shared by all, like a phone not having enough RAM for their liking, or fast enough 4G.  Not genuine problems with the phone, you act as if the OEM such as LG, trying to throw their name in the Super Phone hat, would want to release a phone with a laundry list of issues,  stop looking at the carrier and look at the obvious, LG has much more riding on the success of the G2x than T-Mobile.  Pay attention little man you think you know what you're talking about but you really dont.
           
          And to address your last part, the only part of your argument that is quite frankly worthy of a response, competition is the reason for it, they are already working on the next phone as a phone is released, technology changes so fast it is a vicious cycle man.  That's why you have to do your homework.  I am in no way shape or form a fan of the Vibrant's GPS issue, The G2X lame screen,  inherent MyTouch issues related to Espresso Sense.  you have to do your homework.  Or keep on waiting for that elusive perfect phone.

        • Anonymous

          Fixated on making you feel stupid?  You are accomplishing that on your own buddy.  Let me take out a few of your gems while I laugh off the fact that you keep on giving me subjective “facts”.

           like i said “why is it that HTC makes a phone for verizon and its really cool and well built and feels good in your hand and then 
          they make one for tmobile and it feels like a plastic toy and isnt up to speed like the verizon phones or at&t”

          When the HD2 released, AT&T had nothing but the iPhone and Blackberries.  All of their Android phones were also ran T-Mobile facsimiles like the Backflip.  Almost how is that not subjective?  Seriously dummy, go to school.

          actually it was 9 months roughly to be exact – how does this make any sense?

          Yea i do keep leaving out European carriers – why bc thats over there dumbass – we dont live over there i dont buy there phones i buy my phones that we sell over HERE!  <— you meant their btw, and this is the dumbest comment ever, you have to bring Europe into play jerkoff since YOUR phone is a European variant, the Sensation IS  a European phone, the Galaxy S variants we will all get in August/September are available in Europe right now.  The G2, EVO Shift, EVO, HD2, Inspire 4G and Thunderbolt are all variants of European/Asian HTC devices. So you may live here, but your phones arent made here and arent ever unique to here.  These phones arent exclusive when you can get a variant of it somewhere else.  How is that exclusive?  Do I really need to copy and paste a definition?

           1% isnt a big enough number to stop a company from selling the phones and thats exactly what tmobile is doing – Right, because it is a pattern of most companies to raise the price on a phone and not ship them to stores when they have "quality issues" .  The phone is out of stock Moron, cut out the conspiracy theories, oh no wait, you know this because your super informed friend told you.  I'm sorry how stupid of me.

          i countered ur point heres a tmobile rep with a non dual core smart phone running gingerbread and the latest sense with no problems so i guess u dont need a dual core after all lol duh! – Right this is obviously a great barometer of if Dual Core is necessary or not.  Why dont you take a look at how stupid your comments really are.

          thats actually what u did sayyou said and i quote "You are in the minority, get it through your head." You heard it apparently its ok if the minority of users suffer – My comment about the minority was actually techie people who assume that their problems are shared by all, like a phone not having enough RAM for their liking, or fast enough 4G.  Not genuine problems with the phone, you act as if the OEM such as LG, trying to throw their name in the Super Phone hat, would want to release a phone with a laundry list of issues,  stop looking at the carrier and look at the obvious, LG has much more riding on the success of the G2x than T-Mobile.  Pay attention little man you think you know what you're talking about but you really dont.
           
          And to address your last part, the only part of your argument that is quite frankly worthy of a response, competition is the reason for it, they are already working on the next phone as a phone is released, technology changes so fast it is a vicious cycle man.  That's why you have to do your homework.  I am in no way shape or form a fan of the Vibrant's GPS issue, The G2X lame screen,  inherent MyTouch issues related to Espresso Sense.  you have to do your homework.  Or keep on waiting for that elusive perfect phone.

        • Anonymous

          Fixated on making you feel stupid?  You are accomplishing that on your own buddy.  Let me take out a few of your gems while I laugh off the fact that you keep on giving me subjective “facts”.

           like i said “why is it that HTC makes a phone for verizon and its really cool and well built and feels good in your hand and then 
          they make one for tmobile and it feels like a plastic toy and isnt up to speed like the verizon phones or at&t”

          When the HD2 released, AT&T had nothing but the iPhone and Blackberries.  All of their Android phones were also ran T-Mobile facsimiles like the Backflip.  Almost how is that not subjective?  Seriously dummy, go to school.

          actually it was 9 months roughly to be exact – how does this make any sense?

          Yea i do keep leaving out European carriers – why bc thats over there dumbass – we dont live over there i dont buy there phones i buy my phones that we sell over HERE!  <— you meant their btw, and this is the dumbest comment ever, you have to bring Europe into play jerkoff since YOUR phone is a European variant, the Sensation IS  a European phone, the Galaxy S variants we will all get in August/September are available in Europe right now.  The G2, EVO Shift, EVO, HD2, Inspire 4G and Thunderbolt are all variants of European/Asian HTC devices. So you may live here, but your phones arent made here and arent ever unique to here.  These phones arent exclusive when you can get a variant of it somewhere else.  How is that exclusive?  Do I really need to copy and paste a definition?

           1% isnt a big enough number to stop a company from selling the phones and thats exactly what tmobile is doing – Right, because it is a pattern of most companies to raise the price on a phone and not ship them to stores when they have "quality issues" .  The phone is out of stock Moron, cut out the conspiracy theories, oh no wait, you know this because your super informed friend told you.  I'm sorry how stupid of me.

          i countered ur point heres a tmobile rep with a non dual core smart phone running gingerbread and the latest sense with no problems so i guess u dont need a dual core after all lol duh! – Right this is obviously a great barometer of if Dual Core is necessary or not.  Why dont you take a look at how stupid your comments really are.

          thats actually what u did sayyou said and i quote "You are in the minority, get it through your head." You heard it apparently its ok if the minority of users suffer – My comment about the minority was actually techie people who assume that their problems are shared by all, like a phone not having enough RAM for their liking, or fast enough 4G.  Not genuine problems with the phone, you act as if the OEM such as LG, trying to throw their name in the Super Phone hat, would want to release a phone with a laundry list of issues,  stop looking at the carrier and look at the obvious, LG has much more riding on the success of the G2x than T-Mobile.  Pay attention little man you think you know what you're talking about but you really dont.
           
          And to address your last part, the only part of your argument that is quite frankly worthy of a response, competition is the reason for it, they are already working on the next phone as a phone is released, technology changes so fast it is a vicious cycle man.  That's why you have to do your homework.  I am in no way shape or form a fan of the Vibrant's GPS issue, The G2X lame screen,  inherent MyTouch issues related to Espresso Sense.  you have to do your homework.  Or keep on waiting for that elusive perfect phone.

        • Anonymous

          Your complete disregard for a semblance of proper grammar, spelling or punctuation make your rant almost as painful to read as the idiotic crap youre saying, but I will take one last victory dance around your bullishly stupid comments.

          1.  What makes your comments nonsense is that everything you are saying is subjective, whether it be you, or a customer telling you, doesnt make it the rule.  I think its funny that you keep on trying to fish for the worst devices t-mobile launches but skip over the obvious.  HD2 was for intents and purposes a complete catastrophe.  The phone WAS horrible but the phone design was anything but a plastic toy.  HD2 was one of the first phones to employ a 1Ghz processor so if they were still using the chipset by the time the HD7 rolled around which by the way was only 6 months later, guess what?  So was everyone else.  You act as if the HD7 launched among Dual Core Phones or phones sporting chips above 1Ghz.  Fact is you say these carriers got “cool WP7 devices with super amoled screens” No carriers didnt get anything, AT&T got the Samsung Focus and then turned around and picked up the HD7 with the same specs save for a souped up screen.  Verizon and Sprint just got WP7 devices and they are in no way shape or form better than the HD7, although it is clear from my comments you havent used a WP7 device because you are speaking like someone looking at a spec sheet from far away not someone speaking from experience.  Ignoring what customers say?  It kills me how techie jerkoffs in a form think they speak for the world when they complain about a phone, almost this entire site was ready to march into Samsung HQ and burn the place down over FroYo, everyone calling Samsung Samsuck as if it were the funniest joke ever, but 90% of the people I encounter with Vibrants are still running 2.1.  You are an minority, get it through your head.

          2.  This argument is so dumb I refuse to write much about it, but I will remind you I said not much exclusivity and you brought up the iphone, lets be serious.  You speak about the fact that so many people love the iphone like it’s a surprise, I myself own an AT&T iphone, so what?  Of course they’ll be on t-mobile because it was up until February the only US Carrier that supported it other than AT&T.  I dont even see your point or how anything you said was a response to what I said since you conveniently keep on bringing up Verizon (Sprint’s EVO Shift was a Desire Z variant btw) but keep on leaving out European carriers and Verizons 1/2 owner Vodafone namely.

          3.  I say no phones are perfect, you bring up the G2x, why is it that I am talking about a line-up of phones and you keep on coming back to your terrible luck with one fun.  Listen the G2X is as stated in point 2 an American Variant of the first dual core phone in the world, if it wasnt perfect, you had the opportunity to know that in the 3 months it was released in other territories before you purchased it, again, if you’re the researcher you think you are, you really arent very good at it.  Stop complaining, do your HW better, for every dissatisfied techie loser, there is a perfectly happy customer.  You really think your opinion is shared throughout or just among a few?  Do you the return rate on the G2x?  Less than 1%.

          4.  What are you even talking about with this story about a guy in a store with a flashed rom.  So what?

          5.  you havent countered anything, I said in the first post you are passing off your opinions as facts and it still stands true now, just because you believe something doenst make it true, just because a couple of your friends or associates do, doesnt make it true either.  You are talking about quality, but have you seen Verizon’s new WP7?  Its a POS, the Droid X2 looks just like the Droid X, they keep on releasing phones that are dual core without 4G, or 4G phones that are not dual core, how is this a win?  The Thunderbolt is terrible, the Sensation released 3 months after it, and is Dual Core, 4G, way better battery life, running 2.3, less lag, less connectivity issues.  What are you even talking about?  How about ATT’s Inspire 4G which is an EVO with a better display although still not quite as good as the qHD on the Sensation, without the camera and with 4G locked.  How about that MotoBlur touting Atrix?  No company has released a better stable of phones since October than T-Mobile.  Unless you think the Kyocera Echo was revolutionary.  Everything you’re saying is subjective nonsense, people bashed t-mobile because Verizon announced all these phones at CES, but look at it so far, T-Mobile’s phones have been waaaay better than Verizon’s.  Have you seen the LG Revolution?  It’s an eyesore that nobody could love, Droid Charge is nice, but no Infuse 4G for AT&T, and neither are dual core and both are sporting the same 1Ghz Hummingbird chipset released in Last Years Galaxy S line(since you tried to run that crap with the HD2>HD7).  So according to you thats a big problem.  I could sit here forever poking holes in your twisted logic, but by now if you havent figured out that you will not win this fight with half thought out highly opinionated rants then there is no helping you.  

        • Anonymous

          1. I am in the industry and your comments are nonsense.

          2. most carriers pick up variants of the same base device and there really isnt much carrier exclusivity. Both of Googles prized phones landed on tmo first, and if you’re the researcher you claim to be why didn’t you detect these issues you claim the sensation has in the whole month it was in Europe before American release?

          3. As stated no phones are perfect, if you pick away at enough stuff on any phone you will find things you don’t like whether be a Sensation, iPhone 4, Incredible 2 or EVO 3D. Not only do you have personal tastes but personal preferences, you want the perfect phone build it yourself.

          4. Dual Core may not be the huge factor in applications today but who knows how much it’ll impact phone performance with the next major Android release? Also if you think the Sensations Dual Core isn’t the driving force behind it’s ability to seamlessly thread through applications and the UI overlay you’re an idiot.

          5. You’re an entry level worker who doesn’t know anything, relying on what you’ve been told by your higher up. I am the higher up giving people information, and you don’t know what you’re talking about. I deal with OEMs on a daily basis. T-Mobile rarely releases a phone that hasn’t been tried and tested in Europe. If you look at their recent releases short of the MyTouch series these phones have all been variants of European/Asian phones that have been wildly coveted and reviewed highly. (Galaxy S Vibrant, G2, HD7, Galaxy S 4G, Sensation 4G, G2X). These phones all launched on some of the largest carriers in the world, most of them Vodaphone which in case you aren’t aware actually 1/2 own Verizon Wireless in the US. Youre saying that Verizon has the highest standards of cell phone carriers in the world?

          If you have an opinion great, good for you, when you try to pass those opinions off as facts, you’ll always run into problems. Youre really not as informed as you think you are.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6JUK2RDOPHCULTIFWTNRVQ4PYQ JonathanW

          That sucks guy. Love me some magenta and my G2X holds up like a champ. By far the best device I have had, hands down. I don’t have issues with reboots, freezing or screen bleeding. Wish you received the same device I did because this phone is amazing. Hopefully gingerbread will be out soon and everyone’s issue(s) will become non-existent. The G2X really is the best smartphone to date (in my opinion, and I’m holding to that until the S2, Hercules, or iPhone 5 comes out).

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6JUK2RDOPHCULTIFWTNRVQ4PYQ JonathanW

          That sucks guy. Love me some magenta and my G2X holds up like a champ. By far the best device I have had, hands down. I don’t have issues with reboots, freezing or screen bleeding. Wish you received the same device I did because this phone is amazing. Hopefully gingerbread will be out soon and everyone’s issue(s) will become non-existent. The G2X really is the best smartphone to date (in my opinion, and I’m holding to that until the S2, Hercules, or iPhone 5 comes out).

        • Mastrorj

           Im a pretty honest dude u know- One thing i said in my G2x review is that when this phone works its really really fast and there were alot of pluses for it – But lol u know what major flaw i had so u know why i was so tunred off from it – The video capture was amazing esp bc of the way it recorded sound – i give it props for the still camera too – but when u get so many other issues that prevent u from enjoying it – the experience is ruined. Any of those 3 phones you just mentioned are exciting devices – im a sucker for a nice big screen so i would hope apple make a 4.3 retina display- man would that be badass!! :) Im using the Sensation now and the wifi and overall connections arent too great but HTC sence really sells this phone and i might be going out on a limb here but the QHD display is very very crisp and sharp – Almost like Apples retina displays – although i havent had the chance to put them side by side and compare in person an of the displays as far as the QHD-Retina-Super Amoled Plus- I can tell you that when i put it next to my brothers vibrant the QHD is miles ahead and those regular super amoleds are really really nice- If you can check out the HTC sense bc its a game changer in many ways – and i dunno if u watch movies but HTC has something called “watch” and dude i dunno how they do it but theres no buffering on the stream and its full HD(so far ive only watched trailors but theyre not stored on the phone) again its crazy i dont know how they pulled that off – Thanks for being cool bro

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6JUK2RDOPHCULTIFWTNRVQ4PYQ JonathanW

          That sucks guy. Love me some magenta and my G2X holds up like a champ. By far the best device I have had, hands down. I don’t have issues with reboots, freezing or screen bleeding. Wish you received the same device I did because this phone is amazing. Hopefully gingerbread will be out soon and everyone’s issue(s) will become non-existent. The G2X really is the best smartphone to date (in my opinion, and I’m holding to that until the S2, Hercules, or iPhone 5 comes out).

      • Mastrorj

         Lets see Vibrant had a lag issue bc it was built on a FAT32 file system which is an old slow file system so was the vib 4g( i went through 4 of these then the G2x(5 of these) would totally power down every time u put the screen to sleep the LCD screen would bleed as well on all 5 phones! The HTC sensation i had dead pixles on the screen twice and the unibody design does something called the grip of death – it wont hold a freakin signal or wifi or bluetooth Nexus is old G2 is old they dont even sell these phones anymore u ass!! besides the nexus was only available through a freakin web site(i think) deff not in stores!! i know bc i worked for tmobile my touch 4 g just didnt care for it the G2 i dont want a physical keyboard n i didnt like stock android but yes for the G2x i know it had stock android but i figured after going through so many touch wiz phones i would try it and yea FAIL! after working for both verizon and tmobile verizon has better quality phones – but u know what im not taking about JUST tmoble phone u ass! im talking about every f-in smart phone across the board I have known for a fact the G2X had these problems in Europe yet they released this phone anyway and we spend out hard earned money on crap that dont work! PERIOD!!! If u tell me my service area is good and i get only 2g F-in service then theyre full of it!! but yet im charged all this money to get a data plan when the majority of the time im getting 2g and not even 3g and im in all different areas including lower westchester county NYC and conneticut

        SO YEA ASS HOLE IM GONNA BITCH ABOUT PAYING OVER $100 A MONTH FOR 2 LINES THAT GET BAD SERVICE AND I GO THROUGH ALMOST A DOZEN PHONES wheres the quality control on these phones and again not just for TMOBILE im talking across the board!! These phones retail from 4-500 dollars a piece ok and how many kinda of electronics do u know that cost that much that have this many frequent problems – Nothing i can ever thik of  – i worked for  best buy u know what the most returned item is its android smart phones! oh and then after 3-4 months of problems the companies acknowledge it say they will come out with afix but by the time they do you either bought a new phone bc ur tired of dealing with the issues of the last one or they just never come up with the fix – So im tired of going on craigslist selling my phone to make a few hundred to buy a new one out right and coming up with the difference somehow – im tired of getting refurbed phones that dont work and im tired of paying for a plan that doesnt live up to what it supposed to do – IF MY G2X TURNS OFF EVERY TIME THE SCREEN SLEEPS ND I HAVE TO TAKE OFF MY CASE AND THEN THE BACK THEN OUT COMES THE BATTERY WHAT USE IS MY PHONE PLAN IF THE PHONE WONT STAY ON!!! BUT YET WHILE THEY FIGURE THIS ALL OUT IM STILL PAYING FULL PRICE FOR MY DATA AND PHONE PLAN – F- THAT!! ITS BS AND I THINK IS THE FCC IS GOING TO INVOLVE ITS SELF IN ANYTHING IT SHOULD BE THAT WE AS CONSUMERS ARE GETTING GOOD QUALITY STUFF FOR THE MONEY WE PAY FOR BC LETS FACE WE PAY TOP $$ FOR SERVICE AND PHONES THAT ONLY WORK HALF THE TIME – THERE NEEDS TO BE SERIOUS REGULATIONS ON THIS INDUSTRY AND A CERTAIN STANDARD THEY NEED TO BE HELD TOO

    • billibolas

      If the Sensation G2X or the the Galaxy phones arent good enough, please share with everyone this mythical device thats so great. 

      • Mastrorj

        well i had the htc incredible and i never did have an issue with that phone – it did really well with out any issues that i remember as for now to answer ou question there isnt a ” mythical device thats so greaat” there isnt and dont u think for $500 there should be

        Hey im gonna sell u this car for 30 grand brand new  n later on you find out the tranny is kinda spotty and keeps skippin gears – bring it back to the dealer a month later and they say to u yea—we been havin this problem with alot of these models – cant give u a diff model but we can give u another new one but just let u know u might have a shaddy transmition in this one too – so congrats u just paid 30 grand for a car that might work sometimes yea thats cool right bc thats no inconvience if u run a business where in todays world u might depend on these things and it would be nice to have it oh i dunno work bc you paid good money for it – why should i have to roota phone to fix a lag or have a screen bleeding while they figure it out and i pay for a plan while my phone shuts off all the time

        i dont understand again why all of you are so dam hard up on defending companies that are putting out lousy products this continues bc we as consumers put up with it and as long as we do this will keep happening – but just wait till u guys get a bad phone and go through what me and alot of other people are going through then ull start complaining and saying man someone needs to do something about this bc i paid $500 for a paper weight that has a micro usb port—yay!

    • trew420

      Mobile devices are obviously more likely to break than your blu ray player. Try taking it around with you EVERYWHERE  and see how long it works for.

  • Anonymous

    Verizon LTE is fast but the battery life for those devices capable of using it is terrible. I would barely ever have the l t e radio turned on were it my choice. T mobile hspa speeds may not be the fastest but they are consistent and T-Mobile’s network is certainly good for battery life.

  • Anonymous

    You worked for Verizon in a Circuit City? That explains a lot of your issues with communication. Those kisoks were staffed by losers in a store filled with losers.

    • Mastrorj

       Circuit sucked big time!!! i would never ever defend that company and ur right not about me but about most of them they were poorly run and the worst people worked there thats why i left after about 2 months n went to best buy  – it was a terrible job that i only went to bc all of us from Compusa hated best buy at the time and said eh wed rather wor for CC but then after i left they went out of busines anyway thank god- btw no issues with comm here because i just got my batch from texas a&M  in comm public relations and i will make a dam good living at it

      • Anonymous

        If you just got a degree, they must really be lowering the bar over there, your communication skills are an atrocity.

        • Mastrorj

           Yea Texas A&M just all of a sudden for me said hey we need u lets lower the bar lol My com skills are great and my degree will get me a better paying job first time around then what crap u call a job – Have fun looking for a job after the buyout while i enjoy my 3nd interview at Sikorsky where im in the running for an almost 6 fig salary – i dont see our military getting bought out any time soon – such a little b*tch lol

        • Mastrorj

           Yea Texas A&M just all of a sudden for me said hey we need u lets lower the bar lol My com skills are great and my degree will get me a better paying job first time around then what crap u call a job – Have fun looking for a job after the buyout while i enjoy my 3nd interview at Sikorsky where im in the running for an almost 6 fig salary – i dont see our military getting bought out any time soon – such a little b*tch lol

        • Anonymous

          actually it was 9 months roughly to be exact – Doesnt make sensewe dont live over there i dont buy there phones i buy my phones that we sell over HERE! – doesnt make sense and you mean their
          so u through numbers out like 90% of people u run into and 1% return rate of g2x’s im sure those are hard numbers right u just happen to have on hand right yea i call total BS – So im sure you meant throw and not through and youre missing quite a few questions marks there buddy, punctuation isnt actually for elitist.
           G2x and watched all the vid reviews in Europe about the phone and theyre were no problems according to them – theyre believe it or not is actually they are, nope not the right word again, there theyre and their, you meant the last one buddy.

          I didnt even bother with all the words you misspelled, it would take me too long.  You’re a clown kid, first off you have assumed I work for T-Mobile when I actually never told you that.  If you think it’s obvious, well I would caution you against pretending anything comes obviously to a mind of your caliber.  

          6 fig job, thats nice, I’ve been making more than that for about 5 years now, happy for you.  Oh BTW I’m working on a masters in Finance, so I dont think I’ll have much problem finding a job.  Appreciate your concern though. 

          You’re a loser man, seriously, I’ve never seen a dumber smartass.  It’s actually quite entertaining, but sad at the same time.  If people like you are graduating from schools in Texas, I feel bad for the state of Texas.  They’re not exactly headed towards glory with graudates like you.  (see that?  Threw that last line in just to laugh at you, one more time; There, They’re & Their, write it down you’ll get it). 

        • Mastrorj

           f this give me ur email ill send u my number and we can do this on the phone or something cause ur making  me an you both look like morons for one correcting my grammar when it was fine(their is posessive u idiot – its their phone – you dont go over THEIR because  there was no subject its not THEIR europe it doesnt belong to them even so you go over there not go over their maybe thats why ur a numbers guy lol god i hope not if u cant get this then they probably have you adding apples and pears and matching shapes and colors – lol ur in the special ed dept of ur job lmao!!! so if u got money and drive benz do u drive the short benz to work ah this go ahead email me my sn at gmail

        • Anonymous

          No you can’t have my number I’m not into that sort of thing, read what you wrote dummy, you put I don’t buy there phones, I actually know how to write, save your corrections for your own post… Why are you even wasting my time? Here I’ll copy and paste it for you again. BOOM…

        • Mastrorj

           thats what i thought pussed out like a bitch lol

        • Mastrorj

           thats what i thought pussed out like a bitch lol

        • Anonymous

          Yeah, I dont want to give a guy my number, I pussed out, is that how you pick up guys in gaybars? Lmao, you really must not think these comments through. Get a life man… Seriously, maybe a girlfriend, or in your case boyfriend, go do something.

        • Anonymous

          Yeah, I dont want to give a guy my number, I pussed out, is that how you pick up guys in gaybars? Lmao, you really must not think these comments through. Get a life man… Seriously, maybe a girlfriend, or in your case boyfriend, go do something.

        • Mastrorj

           f this give me ur email ill send u my number and we can do this on the phone or something cause ur making  me an you both look like morons for one correcting my grammar when it was fine(their is posessive u idiot – its their phone – you dont go over THEIR because  there was no subject its not THEIR europe it doesnt belong to them even so you go over there not go over their maybe thats why ur a numbers guy lol god i hope not if u cant get this then they probably have you adding apples and pears and matching shapes and colors – lol ur in the special ed dept of ur job lmao!!! so if u got money and drive benz do u drive the short benz to work ah this go ahead email me my sn at gmail

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6JUK2RDOPHCULTIFWTNRVQ4PYQ JonathanW

          Hey, take it easy on “i feel bad for the state of Texas” bs. He’s one man of many. Back up and leave your negativity to the person and not the state.

        • Mastrorj

           i know im an aggie but im still gonna give u a “hook em horns!!!” lol

        • Mastrorj

           i know im an aggie but im still gonna give u a “hook em horns!!!” lol

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6JUK2RDOPHCULTIFWTNRVQ4PYQ JonathanW

          Hey, take it easy on “i feel bad for the state of Texas” bs. He’s one man of many. Back up and leave your negativity to the person and not the state.

        • Anonymous

          actually it was 9 months roughly to be exact – Doesnt make sensewe dont live over there i dont buy there phones i buy my phones that we sell over HERE! – doesnt make sense and you mean their
          so u through numbers out like 90% of people u run into and 1% return rate of g2x’s im sure those are hard numbers right u just happen to have on hand right yea i call total BS – So im sure you meant throw and not through and youre missing quite a few questions marks there buddy, punctuation isnt actually for elitist.
           G2x and watched all the vid reviews in Europe about the phone and theyre were no problems according to them – theyre believe it or not is actually they are, nope not the right word again, there theyre and their, you meant the last one buddy.

          I didnt even bother with all the words you misspelled, it would take me too long.  You’re a clown kid, first off you have assumed I work for T-Mobile when I actually never told you that.  If you think it’s obvious, well I would caution you against pretending anything comes obviously to a mind of your caliber.  

          6 fig job, thats nice, I’ve been making more than that for about 5 years now, happy for you.  Oh BTW I’m working on a masters in Finance, so I dont think I’ll have much problem finding a job.  Appreciate your concern though. 

          You’re a loser man, seriously, I’ve never seen a dumber smartass.  It’s actually quite entertaining, but sad at the same time.  If people like you are graduating from schools in Texas, I feel bad for the state of Texas.  They’re not exactly headed towards glory with graudates like you.  (see that?  Threw that last line in just to laugh at you, one more time; There, They’re & Their, write it down you’ll get it). 

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6JUK2RDOPHCULTIFWTNRVQ4PYQ JonathanW

          HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! Your an aggie!!! No wonder your grammar is so poor and your rants are incoherent babble. Go back to college station. Hook ‘em!

        • Mastrorj

           lol aw come on man read bellow a few posts i even said ”
          i know im an aggie but im still gonna give u a “hook em horns!!!” lol” i love UT its where im getting my masters done! lol believe me ill bleed burnt orange before i ever bleed like an aggie  :)

        • Mastrorj

           lol aw come on man read bellow a few posts i even said ”
          i know im an aggie but im still gonna give u a “hook em horns!!!” lol” i love UT its where im getting my masters done! lol believe me ill bleed burnt orange before i ever bleed like an aggie  :)

      • Anonymous

        If you just got a degree, they must really be lowering the bar over there, your communication skills are an atrocity.

    • Mastrorj

       Circuit sucked big time!!! i would never ever defend that company and ur right not about me but about most of them they were poorly run and the worst people worked there thats why i left after about 2 months n went to best buy  – it was a terrible job that i only went to bc all of us from Compusa hated best buy at the time and said eh wed rather wor for CC but then after i left they went out of busines anyway thank god- btw no issues with comm here because i just got my batch from texas a&M  in comm public relations and i will make a dam good living at it

  • Fatgurl23

    Dam I’m hungry

  • remixfa

     
    With the network upgrades, Tmobile’s average speed is the same or higher than VZWs LTE speeds. No it might not see the bursts into the 30s for now, but its got a heck of alot more people on it, more devices sucking up bandwith, and its backwards compatable to the 3g phones, which also suck up bandwith on it.
    So concidering all that AND its still the same speed or faster, thats a big win.

    • remixfa

      I’ve done the speed tests to prove it.  My Gslate averages 9mb/s  during the daytime in jacksonville.

    • remixfa

      I’ve done the speed tests to prove it.  My Gslate averages 9mb/s  during the daytime in jacksonville.

    • remixfa

      I’ve done the speed tests to prove it.  My Gslate averages 9mb/s  during the daytime in jacksonville.

    • remixfa

      I’ve done the speed tests to prove it.  My Gslate averages 9mb/s  during the daytime in jacksonville.